Ballots need to be cured if Lauren Boebert is going to lose CO-3 to the Adam Frisch, whose description of Boebert’s schtick as “angertainment” is spot on.
Frisch’s campaign also needs some phone banking volunteers — the sign up is here. If you live in the district and voted by mail, or know somebody who did, this is the site where Colorado voters can track their mail-in ballots.
I ran the numbers on outstanding ballots in this district last week, and I thought Frisch was going to pull out a squeaker. I still think he has a chance, though Boebert is ahead by 1,122 votes at the moment. I follow Anna Lynn Winfrey of the Pueblo Chieftan on Twitter for race updates, and it looks like we won’t have final numbers in this race until the end of next week, plus it is probably going to a recount.
Anyway, I think Democratic control of the House is still a possibility, and this race could be the decider.
OzarkHillbilly
Hope springs eternal.
Baud
Does CO cure ballots by salting or smoking them?
Qrop Non Sequitur
@Baud: I thought the ballots needed a conversation with a psychologist.
Benw
@Qrop Non Sequitur: they need their booster
kalakal
@Baud: Ballots should be smoked, with polls you need a big pinch of salt
ian
@Baud: It is Colorado. They use medicinal marijuana.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: Curing salt #2* and smoking
* with a few other herbs and spices
eta: I use a dry rub for my bacon and jowls, I soak hams and hocks in a brine. not sure what would be best for votes.
Miss Bianca
Just signed up for text banking on this one with the Colorado Democratic Party. I don’t live in CD-3 anymore, sadly/not sadly. CD-7, Brittany Petersen, fuck yeah!
Geminid
@Miss Bianca: So, what do you think of your new Representive? I don’t know much about her.
This is not an especially large class of new members, but some seem to have a lot of potential. I am particularly impressed by Mary Peltola.
Elizabelle
Angertainment. Such a perfect word for a terrible concept.
Someone brought up Chrinos yesterday — Christians in name only.
I wonder if Christnos might be even better. A no to Jesus Christ’s … actual teachings. They are not even in the same building.
Ivan X
So, sorry to ask dummy questions, but what exactly does it mean to cure a ballot?
Alison Rose
@Ivan X: It’s basically talking to voters whose ballots were rejected for one reason or another, to try to fix whatever the issue was.
OzarkHillbilly
@Ivan X: As my mother always said, the only dumb question is the one never asked.
I will let somebody more versed than I give you the correct answer.
eta: @Alison Rose: Good answer, short and succinct.
TaMara
There are also 6200 ballots considered “under votes” in which they cannot determine who (if anyone) was voted for on the ballot. If there is a recount, those will be examined carefully. Think hanging chads of 2000. Could get ugly.
trollhattan
@Baud: Something, something, dry rub.
trollhattan
@TaMara: Guessing there’s been an upswing in ammo sales in that CD.
Miss Bianca
@Geminid: Don’t know much about her yet – Ed Perlmutter, former CD-7 rep, spoke highly of her and endorsed her. From what I’ve been able to tell from her campaign, she seems smart and capable, and that’s all I need or want right now.
Ivan X
@Alison Rose: thanks. Interesting. Does every state allow this? I figured once Election Day has passed, there are no do-overs.
WaterGirl
@Ivan X: They are still curing ballots in NM, too, And ballots were cured in GA in Jan 2021, also.
The big issue is that there is so little time. IIRC, ballots have to be cured by close of business on Monday.
So if anyone thinks they can contribute to this, please do it NOW!
Cheryl from Maryland
One of the front pagers at the blog Lawyers, Guns, and Money, lives in Colorado (think it is Paul Campos). Could someone who tweets please make sure he gets this to rally around curing ballots. Thanks.
WaterGirl
@Ivan X: I think it’s fair to say that not every state does any particular voting-related thing.
I already partially answered your question, at least as far as GA goes, before you asked it! :-)
I believe that PA also allows you to cure ballots.
Ivan X
@WaterGirl: thanks! I learned something today.
Jerzy Russian
@WaterGirl: Perhaps instead of “curing”, one can say “ballot verification” or “voter outreach” or similar.
California does this ballot verification also. In addition, anyone can sign up with the Registrar of Voters in their county and get text updates on the status of their ballot (the ballot was sent out in the mail, the ballot was received and counted, etc.).
H.E.Wolf
WA, which has statewide mail-in (postage-paid) voting, has a “cure” window during the first few weeks after the election.
CO has also adopted mail-in voting. I wonder if the “cure” process (as in: something, such as illegibility, ails this ballot) is handled on the spot by poll workers, in states with in-person voting.
H.E.Wolf
Oho! Ballotpedia has a list!
https://ballotpedia.org/Cure_period_for_absentee_and_mail-in_ballots
Ivan X
I found a good article on the process in CO: https://coloradosun.com/2022/11/10/colorado-ballot-curing/
WaterGirl
@Jerzy Russian: I call it what the state calls it.
But if we are encouraging others to volunteer to help with the “curing”, it’s a good idea to explain what the hell curing is. :-)
Mike S (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)
@WaterGirl: Curing is simply correcting, correctable problems on a mail-in or absentee ballot. Here in PA it is usually getting the superfluous but required date on the outer envelope. I believe it can also mean getting required info to the election commission to get your provisional allot counted.
Other MJS
Any copyright lawyers among the jackaltariat? Can I copy and paste an editorial cartoon (as in the previous post) for a free newsletter for my local non-profit political group? Thanks!
Baud
@Other MJS:
Obtaining Permissions and Licensing Rights – GoComics (zendesk.com)
Other MJS
@Baud: Thank you. I’m assuming that my newsletter (and Balloon Juice) are the equivalent of social media in this context?
Baud
@Other MJS: Assume nothing.
WaterGirl
@Mike S (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!): Oh, I know what curing is. I was just suggesting that for people who aren’t already familiar with the term “curing” that we also explain it in non-technical terms.
Geminid
@WaterGirl: So what do you think of your new Representative? I don’t know much about her except I think she worked in the Biden administration.
James E Powell
@Jerzy Russian:
I love the California system. They mail me the ballot & email or text me (my choice!) to let me know to expect it. If I don’t vote right away, I get an email reminding me that election day is coming. After I mail it, I get an email telling me that it has been received & counted.
Every state should have a system like this. I believe that most voters would support it in a statewide ballot issue if it were presented in a “let’s make voting easy & secure” manner.
Quite a few of my friends were “I like to go & vote on election day” but after the covid experience of mail voting, they all converted. Key thing mentioned most often: they can take their time with the ballot.
I think we can sell if it an independent organization works to put it on the ballot in every state.
Alison Rose
@James E Powell: Agreed! I like that they let you know both when the post office has picked up your ballot, and when the registrar has received it. Good to have that chain of evidence :P
cain
While they are at it can they cure stupid?
twbrandt (formerly tom)
Meanwhile, at the Muskastrophe, Sen. Ed Markey tells Elon that a reporter was able to create a verified account impersonating him. Musk replies that Markey’s account sounds like a parody. Markey tells him to fix his companies (referring to Tesla which is being investigated by NHTSA, as well as Twitter), “or Congress will”.
I’m sure Twitter advertisers love that shit.
https://twitter.com/SenMarkey/status/1591827463583453190
Mike S (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)
@WaterGirl: I know you do I just wanted to say what it mainly means here in PA because there is still a lot of ongoing litigation about the dating of the outer envelope of mail in ballots going on people will probably be hearing about.
Wolvesvalley
Pennsylvania permits vote curing, but leaves it up to each county.
I haven’t been able to find a complete list of which ones allowed it this time and which ones didn’t.
Betty
@Mike S (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!): Yes, Republicans doing everything they can to disallow ballots. That date on the envelope thing is nonsense. I can’t believe the PA Supreme Court sided with Republicans on that.
Mike in NC
Very pleased to read that Fat Bastard and Moscow Mitch had a bad midterm. Trump’s been having his usual temper tantrums.
Only a few months ago Mitch was giddy about a possible nationwide abortion ban. What country does than imbecile live in? He’s 80 years old and appears to have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. Today the Republican Party is just a little bit closer to the garbage heap of history.
Jackie
@Betty: I don’t understand the dating issue. The only date for mailed in ballots that should be meaningful is the POSTAGE date.
And ballots collected from official drop boxes are obviously delivered *on time.
WaterGirl
@Geminid: I wrote you a long answer to that in a previous thread, and I’m too lazy to try to find it.
The short answer is that I know nothing about her except that 1) she’s a Democrat, 2) she ran digital ads relentlessly, 3) she sent robo calls to my land line relentlessly (number is still on my business cards, so I keep it though I only use it to dial my cell phone when I can’t find it), 4) she relentlessly sent literature to my house through the mail, 5) that abortion was the only issue i ever heard about from her except for one annoying stupid ad about having enough money at the end of the day to buy ice cream for your kids. And that she won.
So she’s a DEM, a fighter, and she won. Good enough for me.
I hope I end up liking her, too!
RepubAnon
@ian: That’s more of a baked ballot…
geg6
@WaterGirl:
Yes, PA allows ballot curing.
surfk9
@WaterGirl: Sounds like she ran a generic DCCC campaign
BlueGuitarist
@Elizabelle:
Totally agree re angertainment.
i mentioned Chrinos yesterday. Thought surely someone has thought of this before me, and confirmed, via google that it would be easy to look up, before using it.
Cino (pronounced See-no according to Urban Dictionary) is also Christians In Name Only, but unlike Chrino isn’t the top google or duck duck go result.
I like your explanation of Christno too; a potential downside: people might read it as non-Christians not accepting personal savior, rather than as fake Christians not practicing what they preach; searching Christno will get a lot of soccer star Cristiano Ronaldo.
Cameron
@Elizabelle: “Chrinos – the breakfast cereal that hates you.”
Frankensteinbeck
@Mike in NC:
The 1950s, where blacks and women knew their place. And he’s seriously fucking pissed that he has to treat them as equals now.
BlueGuitarist
For those suspecting Mistermix’s post title is a clever pun about curing ballots, but not sure how, here’s the band The Cure at the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, playing the song in the post-title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NuNPc160K0
BlueGuitarist
@cain:
no
Mike S (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)
@Jackie: The law in PA says the outer envelope must be “Signed and Dated.” It is an old law that has been updated several times but they kept just kept that language. For a while they were taking any date even if it was obviously and impossibly incorrect! like date for the previous year, but not ones missing a date, which is stupid and does nothing to prevent voter fraud. for the 2020 election the PA Supremes allowed undateds to be kept separate, eventually allowed them to be counted as a temporary measure. This year they gave a final ruling and said they can’t be counted. Maybe with the Gov. and half the ledge in Dem hands we can have progress on improving the law.
BlueGuitarist
The Frisch campaign phone bank to cure ballots is “at max capacity”
people still needed for in person canvassing
WaterGirl
@BlueGuitarist:
I wonder if any of our Georgia peeps might be willing to do the in-person canvassing to “cure” votes.I think the deadline for curing is end of business day on Monday. That’s just tomorrow and what’s left of today.
Never mind, wrong campaign, wrong state.
mrmoshpotato
And no longer paying the salary of that gun-humping brat would be the cherry on top.
Geminid
@surfk9: It’s an odd district, long and narrow. It runs from the Mississippi River across from St. Louis east through Springfield and on to Champagne. A Republican district surrounds it on three sides. The old Republican congressman, Rodney Davis ran in the new Republican district but got out trumped in the primary by another Republican Rep.
Another Scott
This feeds my bias, so I like it. I haven’t actually read the paper yet though. ;-)
(via OrinKerr)
Cheers,
Scott.
BlueGuitarist
@WaterGirl:
Colorado peeps for in person canvassing for Frisch vs Boebert:
The Frisch campaign link indicates folks needed for approx 2 hr shifts 10-5 Monday and Tuesday.
From the link H.E. Wolf posted to Ballotpedia
Georgia: 3 days after election to cure ballots
Colorado: 8 days after election to cure ballots
Matt McIrvin
@WaterGirl: It appears that in Massachusetts, the opportunity to cure mail/early ballots ends on Election Day, at least when it comes to notifying the voter and sending out a new ballot. As in many other aspects, MA is not on the forefront of ballot access here.
I do think there is a nationwide requirement from HAVA to allow voters with questions about eligibility to vote with provisional ballots and then prove their eligibility later, but that is a different process. I haven’t heard anything about the provisionals in this cycle.
Tony G
One of my nieces (for a variety of reasons) ended up a couple of years ago at a job in a clinic in Boebert’s district. For my niece’s sake (and for all of our sakes) I really hope that Boebert soon goes back to pursuing her true calling — serving burgers and beer while brandishing an AR-15.
WaterGirl
@BlueGuitarist: oops! wrong campaign, wrong state.