John Wayne Gacy: [looking around] shit we’re gonna need some new runaway teens
Ted Buddy: Right? These dead ones suck. https://t.co/xgrHPhivEt
— Popehat (@Popehat) November 13, 2022
Claiming you're fighting leftists who hate America & refuse to say anything good about it kinda falls apart when you're up against Mark Kelly, veteran combat pilot, famous astronaut, & all-around nice guy, whose wife nearly died serving the people of Arizona.
— chatham harrison is tending his garden (@chathamharrison) November 12, 2022
the original context doesn't make it any less creepy https://t.co/geUESvRTOn
— James Palmer (@BeijingPalmer) November 12, 2022
This has “I only play the Most Dangerous Game, for the most exquisite prize is human life” vibes
— Jane Coaston (@janecoaston) November 12, 2022
Every Republican (and needy white red state Dem) usually goes bigger and louder with their gunfucker ads but Blake Masters goes with a suppressed .22 for two reasons:
1 – least likely to kick up into his face like the Desert Eagle Girl
2 – Turner Diaries serial killer cosplay https://t.co/uq3D7kgUuS
— zeddy (@Zeddary) November 12, 2022
when she doesn’t know there’s a drifter in the crawlspace pic.twitter.com/UZainXDiyr
— world famous art thief (@CalmSporting) November 12, 2022
The political equivalent of the Marvel superhero movie post-credit scene, setting up the next entry in the series:
senate GOP take note: the grotesque freak who lost you a crucial senate race in a swing state has RECOMENDATIONS https://t.co/FRR491jgLG
— Promo Code: Rudy (@canderaid) November 12, 2022
i know this is cracked but we are all allowed to indulge one harmless conspiracy theory
— John Ganz (@lionel_trolling) November 13, 2022
Speaking of Mr. Thiel…
Meet the gay activist who is doing everything he can to stop republicans from winning elections ?????? pic.twitter.com/xhqY7xTihx
— Jude (Alpha Mule) ???????????????????? (@OregonMapGuy) November 3, 2022
Masters, Musk … it's been a tough cycle for Thiel Funyun Monkeys. Vance is the outlier. https://t.co/fGYOonGWkj
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 11, 2022
Not to overlook:
“We have a lot of self-reflection to do as a party. We said to the voters, ‘if you elect us, we WILL throw doctors in jail for providing life-saving emergency medical care,’ but Dems went to work with their strategy of ‘oh yeah we won’t do that.’ It’s a real head-scratcher!” https://t.co/FKE3ykS5xO
— Rob Sheridan (Parody) (@rob_sheridan) November 13, 2022
War for Ukraine Day 263: Protect the Flag!
anon
Re: Thiel. For whatever reason, after he pumped in his millions getting Vance and masters and whoever else thru the primary, he refused to spend any money in the general. That makes zero sense if he wanted them to actually become senators.
Anoniminous
@anon:
Thinking things through is not the Silicon Valley Way.
Also (too) See: Musk, Elon. Twitter.
Another Scott
Kinda relatedly, …
(via LOLGOP)
Cheers,
Scott.
Mike in NC
Repeating what Karl Rove wrote in the Wall Street Journal: Republicans did a lousy job in midterms because Trump endorsed a bunch of nuts and numbskulls.
dmsilev
@anon: I saw some theories that his plan was ‘fund candidate to win the primary. At that point, go to Mitch McConnell, the RNC, etc., and say, well what are you going to do? You’re not just going to abandon a Senate seat, are you?’ Could be.
Matt McIrvin
Before the election, the conventional wisdom was that differential death rates from COVID wouldn’t be enough to make a significant difference. But that was against the backdrop of a putative red wave, not a squeaker with a handful of recount-close races determining Congressional control.
Martin
@anon: I think Josh has his number. Thiel is a VC guy. You put in the seed money and then once they get rolling they can hit up the deeper pockets.
What choice does McConnell have but to back his guys? All the risk is on McConnell, none is on Thiel. It’s not like McConnells candidate were doing to do the evil shit Thiel wanted. Besides, Thiel is naffing off to Malta. He ain’t sticking around to deal with the consequences.
Repatriated
@anon
Makes perfect sense from a techbro perspective. Didn’t need to finance for the general because the GOP was stuck with the candidate by then, so they had to spend their own money on him if they didnt want to concede the seat outright.
You don’t become obscenely wealthy by spending your OWN money..
Edit: and of course dmsilev and Martin beat me to it….
Alison Rose
It’s a fun game to come up with pretend ideas of what he said under the bleeps.
I’m going with Jim Jones and the Hamburglar.
bbleh
“The Democrats took advantage of laws permitting people to vote, and they adopted sensible positions regarding issues that voters take personally and seriously, and that created a real problem for us! Now, obviously we’ve got to do something about this — those things are still allowed, but there’s no reason they should be — but until we can suppress them — the voting, the sensible policies — we’re gonna keep having problems!”
steppy
To the sprinter Josh Hawley: please proceed. Please throw the factions of the republican party into a chaotic civil war leaving one or the other as a half- strength rump with another half-strength rump sniping at it. Who comes out on top of that shitshow? Who cares?
Steeplejack
@Rschooley:
bbleh
@Steeplejack: Hey, they did some Serious Soul Searching (hereafter SSS) after January 6, and look at how that benefited the party! No reason to assume they can’t build on that!
Suzanne
Glenn Greenwald is a piece of shit. I can’t figure out why. But it’s undeniable.
steppy
@Steeplejack: After which soul searching, it will be determined that the problem was that republican candidates weren’t maga enough. Too many MINOs like Mastriano out there.
Hungry Joe
Ms. Joe and I don’t want to take all the credit, but we donated to Cortez Masto, and wrote 50 post cards. And the election was close. So … you’re welcome.
I used to hope TFG would just sort of — how to say this? — drop dead. But now I think we might be better off with him around: No way he seethes quietly as any Republican gains national traction. “MY spotlight! Mine! MINE!” If only, say, 10 percent of the MAGAs ride the S.S. Trump to the bottom, the G.O.P. is burned toast.
Matt McIrvin
I’m pretty sure that once Trump announces on Tuesday most of them will come running back saying all is forgiven.
Maybe not Ron DeSantis.
Kari Lake is revving up the bullhorn to say she was robbed. There’s got to be at least one more round of election denialism. Trump’s probably gonna get into it–most of them don’t have his level of shamelessness when it comes to just making shit up off the top of his head, they have enough inhibition to need some kind of colorable argument, but once Trump gets in they can just follow.
Martin
@Suzanne: He’s a fascist, that’s why.
Martin
Oh, no late CA update – no new data. Hoping things roll normally tomorrow.
bbleh
@Hungry Joe: Were I as rootless and evil and financially comfortable as, say, Roger Stone, I might consider trying to start a grass roots movement to encourage exactly that. “We must Stand Our Ground” postcards, etc. Feed the Frankenstein monster until it has thoroughly wrecked the castle.
Alas, there are humane things to do. Empathy — what a handicap.
Good on you for your postcarding! This was a victory by an army of thousands, and every one was essential.
randy khan
I don’t know how to thank Mr. Thiel. In addition to promoting candidates who lost, the one guy who won cost the Republicans tens of millions of dollars to prop up in a state their candidate should have won going away. If I didn’t know better, I’d have thought he was a Democratic mole.
Kay
Our school shooter drills generation(s)
I’m glad he ran and won but it’s still sad what we did to them. Are doing to them.
NotMax
“Now that’s comedy.”
– Slappy Squirrel
Kay
It’s truly embarrassing that Ohio elected a Thiel candidate when everyone else soundly rejected them.
Frankensteinbeck
@Mike in NC:
Screw you, Karl. I remember all the wack jobs during Obama’s presidency. “I’m not a witch” and the rest of it. Do you think Trump appeared out of thin air? Nuts and numbskulls have a major advantage in Republican primaries, and Trump is just part of that stew.And you, personally, helped build this, Karl.
EDIT – @NotMax:
It’s sad, really.
JoyceH
Are ALL the GOP so thoroughly enmeshed in the gun cult that it never crosses anyone’s mind that running a gun fetishist who creates creepy gun-stroking ads against the fellow who only got into politics after his politician-wife was SHOT is just kind of a Bad Look?
West of the Rockies
@Alison Rose:
More seriously, I’d guess Rush Limbaugh and Saint Ronny.
West of the Rockies
@Matt McIrvin:
Does Mar-a-Lardo have a gold escalator upon which he and Melania may descend into a writhing orgy of fanbois?
Honus
So Masters complains that democrats aren’t pro-American, and then drives German car out to the desert to shoot his German gun.
NotMax
OT.
Feeling unusually peckish and it’s much to early to contemplate assembling din-din, so noshing on wedges of sliced Jazz apple along with a cheese found at Costco which I’ve just cut into for the first time (originally planned to be a light night dessert).. A freaking incredible cheese. Quadruple yum.
Steeplejack
@NotMax:
That cheese looks tasty. I’ll have to look for it.
bbleh
@JoyceH: my guess would be it’s more that they’re all so mired in victimology and nuh-UH-I-know-YOU-are-but-what-am-I that they’d never see the issue, and if it were raised with them they’d get (defensively) angry. They don’t DO self-reflection, or even self-awareness.
Alison Rose
@West of the Rockies: One of the reply tweets said Jefferson Davis and Nathan Bedford Forrest. Sounds about white.
Jackie
I was watching football and switched to msnbc during halftime and see we’ve gained another seat. Who?
Dan B
@Martin: Thiel is blind to how fast the GOP would take away his children and make it illegal to be married to his husband. They’d have to flee to New Zealand. Billions won’t protect anyone against the true believers who get entrenched in the bureaucracy. They may be slowed down but the Christian Nationalists purity goons will cast a wide net. One of Thiel’s candidates will protect him but I doubt they’d deter the brown shirts will let Thiel’s children remain in a “dangerous” situation with sodomites.
Dan B
@bbleh: There’s a report from the aftermath of 2012 they can dust off and ignore. You know, like history, rhyming or repeating? Let’s think about that – rrrrriiight!!
Jackie
Heartening news from Political Wire!
“A new batch of nearly 100,000 votes released in Arizona’s most populous county Sunday made Republican Kari Lake’s path to winning an intensely-watched governor race more difficult,” the Wall Street Journal reports.
“Ms. Lake, a former local TV anchor, is hoping to overtake Democratic Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, who as of Sunday night is leading her by 26,000 votes.”
dmsilev
@Jackie: Sounds very encouraging. Do we know how many ballots are still left to count?
Sure Lurkalot
@JoyceH: Just loving your comment up, down and sideways so here it is again in its succinct glory
Mousebumples
Emailed this to WaterGirl but if anyone is free to help cure ballots for CA –
And 2 phone banking options in that Twitter thread –
Idk if we can keep the House, but if you have time to help out, let’s keep going!
And, reminder – another postcarding party for Warnock’s runoff on Tuesday night at 8pm (blog time)/7pm central.
Dan B
@Kay: Its not far to move to Michigan where it’s the opposite of embarrassing. Said as someone who got out of Ohio in 1970 when ut wasn’t as nuts, it was just too nuts for this Kinsey 6 gay guy whose draft board informed him that I could not be homosexual, “because there are no homosexuals in Medina County.” Well, there were. They were cruising in Central Park in Wadsworth on their way home to their wives and children
BTW don’t move yet. Ohio needs your sanity and eloquence.
Jackie
@dmsilev: I don’t. The WSJ requires paid subscription, but every part of my body that can be crossed, is crossed for Katie Hobbs to cross the finish line in first place!🤞🏻🤞🏻
Mousebumples
And some optimism out of Colorado –
Alison Rose
@Mousebumples: CA-41 is a smidge far from me, and I can’t do phone stuff, but I’m sending these links on to some friends down in those parts, I bet they’ll be into it.
Jackie
@dmsilev:
Katie Hobbs is currently leading Lake by 26,000 votes!
Jean
@Jackie: Saw that Dave Wasserman sees it’s not impossible, but unlikely that Lake will win in the remaining count. I hoped he’d say “I’ve seen enough.” Seems he’s close.
phdesmond
anyone know about CA-45, Katie Porter, yet? she’s been one of my fave congresspeople of the last four years.
phdesmond
dmsilev
@Jackie: Looking at the Post’s Arizona election page;, they say that the 26,000 vote margin is with “an estimated 93 percent of votes counted”. There’s 2.4 million votes counted so far; taking that 93 percent as gospel, that means there’s about 180,000 votes remaining to be counted. Lake would have to win that remainder by roughly 57-43 to close the gap. I have no idea whether that’s plausible or not (i.e. I haven’t a clue about what regions are still counting and what their voting leans are like).
NotoriousJRT
@Frankensteinbeck: This a thousand times over. Proto Jan 6 was the Brooks Brothers riot and that was a-ok with Rove AND Never Trumpers.
mrmoshpotato
What shittier party is Insurrection Hawley looking to build? Full-on Nazi?
Jeff Del Papa
@Kay: well my generation (tail of the boomers) had the duck and cover drills, along with fallout shelter symbols, etc. But the active shooter drill is an our gun fetish problem, not a nukes exist in other countries problem.
And I am old enough that first and second grade me was taught to recognize and avoid any place posted with a Quarantine sign. (Polio vax existed, but a measles vax didn’t happen till I was in first grade.)
Martin
@phdesmond: Katie is CA-47 (my district). She’s 3 points up. Should be fine.
gwangung
@dmsilev: Well, according to electoral-vote.com, it was 53% on Friday. Then it was 55% on Saturday.
They said “do the the math” and I think we’re all good enough here to do that….
phdesmond
@Martin: ah. glad to hear that. thanks!
Jackie
@dmsilev: Me neither, as supposedly the remaining counts are from same day voting – which “traditionally lean Republican.” I reverently hope we get the final result Monday, and Hobbs is the new governor of Nevada!
Bill Arnold
@mrmoshpotato:
Closer to “Christian Fascists”.
Where “Christ” is an antibizarro-Christ who preaches not paying taxes, picking up the sword and cutting opponent’s heads off with it, accumulation of earthly wealth, etc.
HumboldtBlue
@Martin:
Either that or New Zealand
lgerard
Charlie Kirk actually sounded sensible compared to most of the wingnuts opining on the election
(shudders uncontrollably)
sanjeevs
@Mousebumples: If Boebert lost due to cured ballots I think Charlie Kirk might explode
SFAW
@NotMax:
Do they have any Venezuelan beaver cheese?
SFAW
@sanjeevs:
Gee, be a shame if that happened.
Ivan X
@Mousebumples: Thanks. Just filled out their form.
prtex
@NotMax: Blake Masters is OBVIOUSLY part of the same band of terrorists as Ted (The Zodiac Killer) Cruz. Am I the only one who sees it?
Steeplejack
@moorehn:
HumboldtBlue
How the fuck are we supposed to deal with these people?
Fake Irishman
@dmsilev:
The last Maricopa batch of 94,000 is pretty GOP, but there are also 38,000 from Pima, which is a Dem stronghold. Hobbs has the advantage overall.
The good guys might be able to hang on to the 10,000 vote lead in the state AG’s office too. That one is going to be really close and would be a big flip as well.
Alas, the superintendent of public instruction is going to be a big hill to climb. The Dem — who came out of nowhere to knock off a horrible incumbent with an amazing campaign —in 2018 is currently up by 500 votes.
Fake Irishman
@Fake Irishman:
Another wildcard here is the scattering of ballots left from other counties — including a large batch of 8,000 or so mail in ballots from Apache county, which is heavily native and is running at 68 percent for the statewide Dems in current returns. A margin of 3,000 there would be huge.
Alison Rose
@SFAW: that sounds like something you definitely do not want to look up on Urban Dictionary
eclare
@Alison Rose: Hahaha…
HumboldtBlue
@eclare:
Ain’t nobody googling that!
2liberal
Sad to see this. Dave Wasserman of Cook Political who is their House elections editor says the Dems won’t win the house.
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1591995104784515072
Kent
As I predicted, a new progressive western rural Democratic caucus seems to be emerging. More power to them!
HumboldtBlue
@2liberal:
He may be correct, but the predictions have been so poor by so many noted pollsters and pundits that I’ll wait until the final whistle blows.
smike
@HumboldtBlue:
It’s actually quite good, in a silly way.
HumboldtBlue
There’s an active shooter on the UVA campus.
eclare
@Kent: Very good!
eclare
@HumboldtBlue: As I said to someone yesterday, the opera ain’t over…
TriassicSands
@2liberal:
Earlier today, I looked at the NY Times election coverage for CA. At the time the GOP needed only six more seats to win control of the House and there were six Republicans in CA that looked to be likely winners.
Still, even if we lose the House, it would be a major triumph if Frisch in CO could overtake Bozobert. Doubtful, but…
lgerard
I see quite a few wingnuts in Arizona claiming “voter suppression” because they had to wait in line an hour or two to vote due to machine malfunctions in Maricopa County.
That;s funny, their reaction to seeing people in Georgia waiting six hours in line was to pass a law denying them water.
JWR
@bbleh:
Hell, they did the whole pretend SSS schtick back in 2012, too, and where did that get them? 10 years later, 1 TFG term, a week or two of SSS after J6, and here we are again.
BTW, it looks like Christy Smith (CA 27) will lose, again, to the odious Mike Garcia. Time for her hang up her gloves?
R-Jud
@NotMax: Red Devil is delicious but I love their Green Thunder even more. If you can find it, get it.
eclare
@lgerard: I heard one guy who waited in line in GA for around seven hours detail how he passed the time. Listened to several albums, emails, and watched an entire season of Curb Your Enthusiasm. I was impressed with his tenacity and his phone’s battery.
The longest I have ever had to wait was around two hours in the early 90’s in Atlanta. People that I worked with, solid R voters in the exurbs, drove past polling places because the lines were too long. That state just does not want people to vote.
lgerard
I’ve never had to wait more then 10 minutes to vote, except of once, in 2008. I was working as an election official, as I had for about the previous 30 years at a location about a mile away from my own polling place. We were so busy from the opening long line to the very end that I never had the chance to go and vote.
I sometimes get irked that after all those years of being involved in elections I missed the most historic one of my lifetime, but then I think about all the first time voters we helped that day and it goes away.
eclare
@lgerard: You were there for the greater good. I don’t think you missed it at all.
HumboldtBlue
I made dinner rolls the other night. They turned out pretty good (maybe a touch dry due to the inefficiency of my oven) and the bread is light and fluffy, perfect for soaking up some gravy or handling a schmear of butter, but… I don’t like the taste.
They taste, yeasty, there’s an after-taste that does not sing on my palate. I used all-purpose flour, and it was a rather simple recipe, and it just didn’t work for my taste.
Better flour, maybe?
lgerard
I still think about that day. I live in a neighborhood full of first and second generation Americans and the excitement displayed by the voters that day was palpable and something I had never seen before.
Maybe Obama’s greatest legacy is that he made voting cool again.
eclare
@lgerard: That is really awesome to hear. My memory was of his inauguration. About six of us crowded into our director’s office to watch because directors got a tv in their office. January was a really busy time for my group, but all of us took the time, including my manager and director, to watch history be made. Together.
eclare
@HumboldtBlue: No idea, I do not bake anything with yeast. Maybe post in TaMara’s next recipe thread? I am sure there will be at least one for Thanksgiving.
Or you could just slather on more butter.
Martin
@HumboldtBlue: We know he’s in process to get Maltese citizenship.
NotMax
@HumboldtBlue
Might try cutting down the amount of yeast used and increasing the proofing time a tad. Not covering the bowl while the dough proofs can also result in a pronounced yeastiness in flavor.
Unlikely, but also could be the yeast has gone partially stale.
NotMax
@Martin
The Maltese Cabalcon?
Ruckus
@JoyceH:
Yes.
We have 30 yrs of faux not news spewing crap that stinks worse than, well, the worst thing you’ve ever had the displeasure to smell. If I hadn’t completely lost my sense of smell about 6 yrs ago I would be constantly sick from it. As it is it’s such a disgusting smell that I can still remember what it smells like and it isn’t at all pleasant or in any way not gag inducing.
HumboldtBlue
@eclare:
Next, you’re gonna tell me to ask the Rabbi.
@Martin:
Man deserves a Falcon punch.
@NotMax:
I thought of halving the yeast, but the proof has been spot-on, yeast was in the ol’ reliable Fleischmann’s yeast package that Nan used (not… Nan’s, I mean, mine, the ones I bought, not WW2 era Nan) so that’s covered.
NotMax
@HumboldtBlue
Memorable Montecore misjudgment
;)
HumboldtBlue
@NotMax:
A beef in the hand is worth a slam into the glass, I guess.
NotMax
@HumboldtBlue
The apologia during that episode’s closing credits (shown at the end of the linked video) was the icing on the cake.
A completely different falcon segment (runs from about 11:30 to about 17:00).
Jesse
Just watched that initial video of Masters. It didn’t make any sense. These people are furiously fighting an enemy that exists only in their minds. The true believer look in his eyes is creepy, too.
mrmoshpotato
@HumboldtBlue:
🎶Doctor Zaius, Doctor Zaius🎶
rikyrah
@Suzanne:
Truth
Barbara
@HumboldtBlue: Less yeast, longer rise will likely help.
Matt McIrvin
@HumboldtBlue: Some bread recipes have you bomb the dough with large amounts of yeast to make the rise time fast (especially bread machine recipes). You can get less of a yeasty taste by just using less yeast and waiting longer for the rise. I have no experience with dinner rolls but that’s what I do with bread loaves.
sab
I am back and forth re anger at Tim Ryan. Shouldn’t stomp on him because I like him, but I can’t help myself. He catered to Trumpists, hoping they wouldn’t like JD Vance. Assuming Trumpists have actual functioning brains to be reasoned with.
Meanwhile he ignored his base. Trusted we would vote for him. We did, but our kids thought we were nuts and stayed home. ( Mine didn’t, but my nurse’s aides did. They didn’t think it mattered.)
Just an Ohio perspective. Kay is thinking wisely to move on. I am so disheartened.
Mayor Pete moved on to Chasten’s home. Go guy!
Matt McIrvin
@JoyceH: They honestly think the American majority is with them here, and that the average person’s main concern with victims of gun violence and their loved ones is that they’re gonna take your guns.
Baud
@sab:
It’s always hard to unify our potential voters under one umbrella, especially in a red states.
lowtechcyclist
@Hungry Joe:
The other thing is, as long as Trump’s around and the party isn’t ready to kick his fat ass out the door (and since it hasn’t happened yet, it’s hard to imagine what it would take to get them to do that), the party is going to look as crazy as it is, because Trump will insist on it.
Absent Trump, I’m sure they could find a bunch of Youngkins who could have at least the superficial appearance of being Not Insane long enough to be elected, at which point, like Youngkin, they would take off the masks. Trump forecloses this option.
We could practically run the 2024 campaign on the slogan: “Re-Elect Biden: Not Insane!”
ETA: Yes, that’s a Firesign reference.
Geminid
@sab: Did Ryan cater to Trumpists, or to Independents and Republicans alienated by Trumpism? There is a difference between the two categories.
Baud
@lowtechcyclist:
Once you have a taste of the meth, it’s hard to go back to tonic water.
sab
@Geminid: He really pushed his bipartisan credetials. Could negotiate across the aisle.
Not a peep about our ( Democratic) concerns.
I know he is a good solid Democtat. He has been my Congressman for twenty years and I do watch his votes.
But he trusted solid Democrats would be behind him and gave them nothing . Outside of his district all they saw was Faux.
Geminid
@sab: Mary Peltola emphasized her bipartisan credentials in Alaska, Sharice Davids did so in the Kansas 3rd CD and Abigail Spanberger emphasized hers in my district, the Virginia 7th CD. I am a low-maintence Democrat when it comes to messaging (not policy) and I did not mind at all.
Spanberger has a lot of Independents in her District, and not enough Democrats to win with them alone. Same with Davids, and Peltola and her state. They won, but if they’d lost I expect some Democrats would be complaining the same as you, at least some from my district.
Alaskan Democrats probably would not gripe as much, but they know their state is as red as say, Ohio.
zhena gogolia
@sab:
Then they’re idiots.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
We need a majority.
sab
@Geminid: Tim Tyan assumed black Democrats would trust him when he gave them nothing. He would have been good but he didn’t tell them. Why would they assume he was okay.
I haven’t seen election results so I do not know this is what he did wrong. Sensibly they should have backed him and maybe they did.
The Pale Scot
Regarding M. Masters, all could think about is this clip from My Cousin Vinny
“And all Our little old ancestors”
Geminid
Outgoing Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, on yesterday’s State of the Union show:
I found that item in today’s Politico Playbook. They also linked to several state newspaper articles about the midterms, including one by Denver Post reporter Krysta Kafer. It was titled:
Baud
@Geminid:
The tiniest bit of sympathy I have for MAGAs is that they had so many non-MAGA allies in the War on Hillary that I can see how they were misled into thinking they were more popular than they are.
Geminid
@sab: Until we see results in Joyce Beatty’s, Emilia Sykes’s, and Shontelle Brown’s races I’m assuming you are speaking for a white Democrat and not Ohio’s Black Democrats. Although they might have voted for Ryan despite finding his messaging deficient, as you did.
eversor
Whelp, he made guns look not cool. What the fuck was that? Guns are FUN, that’s why people like them. Don’t get a thing made for a rodent. I’m not pro AR-15 but there are perfectly good pistols one can get. Get one! Hell go get you a 1911 and a shotgun.
You’re going up against a combat pilot, astronaut, military vet, and you’re firing off a .22 that sounds like cat farts? Also what are you the fuck are you shooting at? And did you offroad a BMW M series like right off a highway? Things normal people do!
Fucking dweebs. How do they find these people? Who does this? I don’t believe in The Lizard People but maybe there is something to all that….
Geminid
@eversor: Masters looks and carries himself kind of like a lizard person. I usually don’t think of the word “hinky” in visual terms, but when I see Masters I think, “My goodness! does that guy ever look hinky!”
lowtechcyclist
@Geminid:
has been a freakin’ Trump weathervane, distancing himself from Trump when that seems the more politic course, and embracing him when that does.
Fortunately, on his worst days, he’s not as bad as Glenn Youngkin is on his best days. And even more fortunately, we’re about to wave bye-bye to him, while I know you’re stuck with Youngkin for another three years. I’ll definitely be chipping in some money next fall to turn the House of Delegates blue again and keep the Senate that way.
ETA: Also, every GOP quasi-rebellion against Trump has been short-lived, whether it’s their reaction to his ‘grab ’em by the *****’ remark back in 2016, or their brief moment of being appalled after 1/6/21. I expect this will be more of the same.
eversor
@sab:
I think he ran the campaign he thought he needed to run to win. With a lot of wink wink to his base during it. I can’t blame him for that given that it was Ohio. He did well. Ohio is red, and he did fine. He was never going to be able to get around the national party stance on culture issue (Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, FUCKING JESUS WE WANT A THEOCRACY NOW FUCKING JESUS) but he tried his best.
Vance rang up the bible vote. He very publically converted to Catholic before starting his campaign and was pumped up on all the major Christian internets sites and by all the major Christian thinkers. Were Ohio less religious, were Christianity viewed as the massive negative it is, Vance would have lost.
If you want someone to blame, find a building with a cross over it, they are to blame for all this. And if you will not blame them, then you are no better than Trump.
Baud
@lowtechcyclist:
They have a real challenge putting their base back in the box. Like I said up above, political meth heads.
lowtechcyclist
@Baud: They’ll have about as much luck as Pandora had.
Geminid
@lowtechcyclist: That’s a welcome sentiment. I suspect Virginia’s state legislative candidates will be well funded next year by highly motivated Virginia Democrats, but some may need a little extra cash.
Next year’s races will take place on a new map. Last year we ran on the same map Republicans drew after the 2010 Census. In the latter part of the last decade, Democrats made deep inroads into the Republican House of Delegates majority. This, and three Congressional District flips in 2018, were examples of how demographic changes and political shifts can break gerrymanders down.
The new map was drawn by two special masters appointed by the state’s supreme court. I think the map will prove fairly neutral, and that Republicans will get thrashed.
different-church-lady
Masters put out that video in October of 2021. That was, what, 400 mass shootings ago?
eversor
@Geminid:
He looks odd. I don’t mean to look shame but he seems… off? And driving off road on a highway with a BMW 5 series that’s an M as well to shoot a silenced .22 at nothing it not a thing one does.
Several of us here are vets and or own firearms. It’s not just conservatives who do this. They aren’t rinky dinky whatever that shit show was. They are shot at ranges. Maybe your friends place if they live farther out and have the space for it. I still keep trained because it’s a good skill to have and I might want a job that needs it again. I’ve never pulled off a highway to pop at silenced 22 at nothing. I go to the range, with fellow vets and active duty. I have a friend out in assfuck VA who has the space for it and we can do that there. We have hotdogs and beer and movies and video games! The gun shooting is not the point. Also again all vets. We shot pumpkins the other day, was good fun.
That whole fuck fest is someone who does not know guns but also has serial killer vibes about him. I wouldn’t vote for anyone, regardless of party, who puts out a video like that. That’s just bonkers.
Also not sure what type of “gun rights” voters really buy into all that. For one, that entire display was rather pathetic. The other is most gun owners I know either hunt or are vets. Neither of which is going to be impressed by that shit show. In rare cases they are contractors who legally buy and register all sorts of stuff and go through official channels for it. Not a damn one is worried about their rights.
different-church-lady
@Baud: If Trump is the dog that caught the car, the GOP is the dog’s owner saying “Do it again!”
azlib
@Matt McIrvin: Kari Lake is revving up the bullhorn to say she was robbed. There’s got to be at least one more round of election denialism.
That is all she has left. She needs 58% of the remaining votes to win. The last drop last night got her 52%. There are about 160,000 votes left to count.
eversor
@Geminid:
Voted the ticket in VA!
different-church-lady
@eversor: But that’s almost exactly what I go around saying all the time now: “Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, FUCKING JESUS WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH EVERYBODY IN THIS COUNTRY FUCKING JESUS”
Baud
@azlib:
Who you gonna call?
Cyber Ninjas!
Geminid
@eversor: I have two friends who own firearms. They would have no problems with Virginia tightening firearms laws so they had to live under a regimen similar to California’s
Debbie and Stephanie are part of a niche demographic: firearms owning, truck driving lesbians with working class backgrounds, who each (along with their partners) ended up raising Black children.
Uncle Cosmo
…because most of their selves don’t HAVE reflections. In the mirror. (Makes it a bitch to shave,)
different-church-lady
@JoyceH: When you’re in a party that believes cruelty itself is the point, then you think it’s a good look.
Baud
@Geminid:
Sounds like the plot to a CBS sitcom.
artem1s
@sab: Voter turnout in Cuyahoga county in Black districts was appalling. With the exception of the Obama elections, it has been since Stokes left congress and Stephanie Tubbs-Jones died. The white state party leaders outside Cleveland and Akron don’t understand they can’t foist white candidates who have no relationships with Black leaders on Black voters and expect them to turn out on election day. Nina Turner being Wilmer’s power tool has also been a factor in turning off the average Dem Black voter too.
The union leadership in Ohio is still strongly represented by white men who are stuck in 1950’s thinking. They used to be able to work with Black leaders to turn out the vote back in the 90’s. But those relationships disintegrated during the W and Obama years for all the same reasons they did all over the rust belt.
There are up and coming Black leaders in the state, but the party can’t ignore them in favor of white Berners, Occupy, (faux) Green Party and Kucinich followers forever and expect to ever turn out the vote in CLE. There are other cities in Ohio that are turning blue but the suburban and rural vote is going to kill us until we give the Black voters in NE OH something to vote for.
different-church-lady
@Uncle Cosmo: Wow, well that would explain Ted Cruz’s beard…
different-church-lady
@Baud: Gurlz in the Hood?
Baud
@different-church-lady: You need to move to Hollywood. That’s perfect.
Matt McIrvin
@azlib: This is really going to come down to the wire, isn’t it? If the Democrats had a Roger Stone running things we’d send a mob to stop the ballot count.
Geminid
@Baud: It does sound odd, but I’ve known Debbie for 40 years and Stephanie for 35, and to me it seems like a very normal thing.
Stephanie’s the normie friend I sometimes talk about here. Tunes out politics, tunes in sports. But Stephanie votes every election, and votes Democratic. She doesn’t need cable news shows, podcasts or blogs to know who the assholes are.
Brachiator
@azlib:
Fortunately everyone, including the media, dismiss this nonsense and move on.
Do I understand correctly that it may be a week before we know the results of this contest, or at least enough to make a reasonable projection?
Geminid
@Geminid: Superficially, Stephanie might resemble one of the “low information voters” people often complain about. But she’s actually a high information voter in that she is a smart and observant woman. Stephanie applies the information she has gathered in her life to her voting decisions.
Mimi haha
@eversor: Wait, what? Vance converted to Catholicism to chase the Christian vote? The fundies don’t count Catholicism as a Christian religion.
RSA
@eversor: I’m not a gun person, though I’m friends with a number of people who are. I’d thought, incorrectly, that silencers (suppressors, rather) were illegal in the U.S., but reading online I find that they’re legal in most states, as long as they’re registered with the federal government.
I wonder why more GQP candidates haven’t spoken up about this infringement of their liberty?
That was a weird, weird video. Stopping in some isolated place to shoot a gun into the distance with no visible target (at least, none I saw on a quick view of the video).
Cacti
@dmsilev: There’s a shade over 160,000 votes remaining in AZ. About 38,800 are in Pima County, where Lake is losing by 20. So really, she’d need closer to 65% of everything else to win.
sab
@artem1s: Yes. Emilia Sykes won because we love her, and also because her people worked their asses off. Her people are mostly black. She doesn’t trust white liberals. Doesn’t hate us but doesn’t much like us.
sab
@artem1s: I said it last summer. Tim Ryan did not understand his electorate. Black voters are tired of voting for white men who don’t care about them.
I had thought Tim Ryan cared, but if he couldn’t be bothered to reach out then mayby he didn’t actually care.
I liked him, but he will never get that indifference stink off.