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You are here: Home / Economics / Grifters Gonna Grift / TFG’s Big Announcement Open Thread: Let’s Get It Out of the Way…

TFG’s Big Announcement Open Thread: Let’s Get It Out of the Way…

by Anne Laurie|  November 15, 20228:55 pm| 162 Comments

This post is in: Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Trumpery, Schadenfreude

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"Most of us have experienced firsthand Trump making complete assholes out of all of us," said @Olivianuzzi, who isn't rushing to Mar-a-Lago. "I will fully engage with this when I know what I am engaging with."

— Charlotte Klein (@charlottetklein) November 14, 2022

It’s scheduled for 9pm. If it happens — we can’t dismiss the possibility TFG will throw a tantrum & refuse to speak if the crowd isn’t big enough — it’ll undoubtably be some new level of grift, but what exactly are the specifics?

Mar-a-Lago ballroom set for 9 p.m. Trump announcement. pic.twitter.com/ottzFfVabM

— Ivan Pentchoukov (@IvanPentchoukov) November 15, 2022

And how much flabby white arse will his ‘loyal’ Repub party members show, whether supporting or renouncing him?

Trump has invited some members of congress to mar a lago for his announcement. It is the same day as the house leadership elections.

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) November 13, 2022

WHOOPS! – ‘Surprise’ spoiled:

Breaking: Trump files statement for his 2024 presidential bid. pic.twitter.com/KFNzYji45S

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) November 16, 2022

Dear media friends: this is a master class from @washingtonpost. Every reference to Trump should include both his coup attempt *and* his two impeachments in the print lede, or second radio/ television sentence. #TrumpAnnouncement pic.twitter.com/qPpigk4vvv

— Michael Hainsworth (@hainsworthtv) November 15, 2022

"Trump is trying to secure a big turnout for his anticipated announcement at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Florida Tuesday night…The desire is to draw a big crowd to show political strength, and Trump is taking note of who is coming and who isn’t" https://t.co/QnMM0VnppS

— Dan Eggen (@DanEggenWPost) November 13, 2022

Tonight’s Trump announcement will produce euphoria amongst the dumbest people in the Republican Party, and dread amongst the smartest.

— Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 (@RonFilipkowski) November 15, 2022

Speaking of people who are not having their best week…

The #TrumpAnnouncement is that @KariLake is now employed; she’s joining the cleaning crew at Mar-a-Lago. pic.twitter.com/1YCD0QxlxW

— Maverick (@Isellmpls) November 16, 2022

#TrumpAnnouncement let’s see what Putin has to say… pic.twitter.com/nl3d9IU253

— BaddPrit (@baddprit) November 15, 2022

Trump announces “I’m running in 2024 and will Make America Great Again, Again, Again” #TrumpAnnouncement pic.twitter.com/iTeTJwbBNi

— Longjacket 💔🤸‍♀️💙 (@Longjacket2) November 15, 2022

PASS THE POPCORN.#TrumpAnnouncement pic.twitter.com/iq9Cku3731

— Resisting PerSister – is also on Counter Social (@51PercentofUS) November 16, 2022

I feel like this will be the consensus after the #TrumpAnnouncement tonight. pic.twitter.com/GCRmINHRQ3

— Asim Khan (@Stanley40312064) November 16, 2022

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  1. 1.

    raven

    November 15, 2022 at 8:59 pm

    Cue whining about “the media”.

  2. 2.

    Baud

    November 15, 2022 at 9:00 pm

    I too am announcing my candidacy for the presidency of the United States.

    It has nothing to do with my upcoming indictments.

  3. 3.

    artem1s

    November 15, 2022 at 9:01 pm

    so how long is he gonna make the press wait for him to appear? half hour? more?

  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    November 15, 2022 at 9:01 pm

    Just in case the question comes up, yes you can run for President from prison. Eugene Debs did it back in 1916.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    November 15, 2022 at 9:02 pm

    @raven:

    Are the networks covering it?

  6. 6.

    raven

    November 15, 2022 at 9:02 pm

    @Baud: I’m watching KY-MSU

  7. 7.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 15, 2022 at 9:02 pm

    To quote a certain president: will you shut up, man?

  8. 8.

    Eunicecycle

    November 15, 2022 at 9:04 pm

    The Hainsworth tweet reminds me, every time Nicolle Wallace mentions Trump, she always calls him “the disgraced, twice-impeached former president.”

  9. 9.

    Scout211

    November 15, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    Are the networks carrying it live? Because that would be weird.

    I don’t see an escalator anywhere in that ballroom. What’s up with that? There’s just chairs and flags and whatnot. This is not a very special episode.

  10. 10.

    Baud

    November 15, 2022 at 9:05 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    That was a great line.

  11. 11.

    Ohio Mom

    November 15, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    Is it official that the GOP won the House? I’m a bit out of it, apparently Paxlovid rebound really is a thing.

    Whenever Trump was going to announce another run, it was going to be anticlimactic. I am looking forward to the chaos that will follow this announcement.

  12. 12.

    Karen

    November 15, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    Didn’t the RNC say they wouldn’t support him (give him money) if he announced before the run-off.

  13. 13.

    Eunicecycle

    November 15, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    @Baud: the 3 main ones are not. CNN is, MSNBC is not. Fox is.

  14. 14.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 15, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    @Baud: I basically screamed and my husband came to check up on me. Lol.

  15. 15.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    November 15, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    Trump is claiming he took “decisive action” to save lives during COVID. Sure, Donny

  16. 16.

    Baud

    November 15, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    @Eunicecycle:

    Thanks.  No complaints then.

  17. 17.

    Karen

    November 15, 2022 at 9:08 pm

    @Ohio Mom: They now have 219 seats as of now.

  18. 18.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    November 15, 2022 at 9:10 pm

    Trump saying he’s gone “decades and decades” without a war while in office lol

  19. 19.

    Ohio Mom

    November 15, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    @Scout211: No escalator and clearly, no budget to pay for extras playing an adoring crowd.

  20. 20.

    Kent

    November 15, 2022 at 9:11 pm

    @Karen:Didn’t the RNC say they wouldn’t support him (give him money) if he announced before the run-off.

    Probably doesn’t matter.  Trump probably has the better mailing list at this point and will suck up a lot of the dipshit MAGA small dollars that would have gone elsewhere.  Heh.

  21. 21.

    trollhattan

    November 15, 2022 at 9:12 pm

    MAL Ballroom is begging for Vlad’s Giant Table.

  22. 22.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to Dt Petersburg

    November 15, 2022 at 9:14 pm

    I’m bingeing “Supernatural” again, since I hate cable news so much that I gave up cable and the wife’s out of town diving with youngest daughter in the Yucatán (they’ve had nice dives – it’s daughter’s first set of dives in 10 years, and a celebration of her getting her first full time archaeology job with a construction outfit).

    Got a new guitar teacher today, a kid younger than my kids (my previous guy retired). This kid actually is planning on holding me to goofy shit like theory, individual notes and scales.  He also isn’t a fan of tab.  It’s going to be actual work – he jumped me on everything from posture to way I hold it.

  23. 23.

    JWR

    November 15, 2022 at 9:15 pm

    It’s over, (the announcement part, not the usual Airing of Grievances part.) And it was a very low energy, low-key sort of announcement. His heart wasn’t in it at all.

  24. 24.

    Baud

    November 15, 2022 at 9:15 pm

    @JWR:

    Wow.  I’m not watching, but that was quick.

  25. 25.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    November 15, 2022 at 9:16 pm

    I’m bingeing “Supernatural” again, since I hate cable news so much that I gave up cable and the wife’s out of town diving with youngest daughter in the Yucatán (they’ve had nice dives – it’s daughter’s first set of dives in 10 years, and a celebration of her getting her first full time archaeology job with a construction outfit).

    Got a new guitar teacher today, a kid younger than my kids (my previous guy retired). This kid actually is planning on holding me to goofy shit like theory, individual notes and scales.  He also isn’t a fan of tab.  It’s going to be actual work – he jumped me on everything from posture to way I hold it.

  26. 26.

    eachother

    November 15, 2022 at 9:19 pm

    Looking for the whole room view of how many attend.
    Sure downtown Miami has a scooped up contingency of paid volunteers. And their bus is parked in the back of the poorly lit neighbor’s lot.

  27. 27.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    November 15, 2022 at 9:20 pm

    @JWR:

    You’re not kidding. It’s definitely not the same high energy performance he’s done before

  28. 28.

    FastEdD

    November 15, 2022 at 9:20 pm

    There is leaking gas from a huge object tonight in Florida. Weather is good for the launch of Artemis 1, but they are monitoring the leak to see if they are go for launch in 3 and a half hours.

  29. 29.

    Amir Khalid

    November 15, 2022 at 9:20 pm

    If anyone has the stomach for it, The Guardian has a live feed of Trump’s declaration of candidacy on its YouTube channel.

  30. 30.

    WaterGirl

    November 15, 2022 at 9:20 pm

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: Not sure why your first one went into moderation.

  31. 31.

    frosty

    November 15, 2022 at 9:20 pm

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: ​Posture? Damn! I kind of feel if someone had taught me basics like picking when I started I might not be making all these mistakes decades later. Oh well.
    Theory and scales are good to know in any case. Circle of fifths and all that. Pentatonics. Modes. Not that I’ve ever used any of it LOL!​

  32. 32.

    hilts

    November 15, 2022 at 9:21 pm

    What a fucking snoozefest.  Listening to a Trump speech is the perfect cure for insomnia.

  33. 33.

    lgerard

    November 15, 2022 at 9:21 pm

    A rush shipment of gyroscopes just arrived at Fox news to help them with the next few days of spinning

  34. 34.

    Major Major Major Major

    November 15, 2022 at 9:21 pm

    Couldn’t pay me enough to watch this, you guys hang in there lol

  35. 35.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 15, 2022 at 9:26 pm

    Tom Nichols @RadioFreeTom 8m

    He is literally boring himself by reading the speech

  36. 36.

    Steeplejack

    November 15, 2022 at 9:26 pm

    Well, Trump has officially announced. To their credit, MSNBC did not cover it live, just showed the one-liner of Trump saying the actual “I am announcing my candidacy” sentence. But of course now “analyzing” it.

  37. 37.

    WaterGirl

    November 15, 2022 at 9:28 pm

    @hilts: Except for the part where you’re vomiting.

  38. 38.

    Gravenstone

    November 15, 2022 at 9:29 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Covering up the extent and danger of the pandemic to keep himself from looking bad is certainly a decision. Not saying it was a good one…

  39. 39.

    prostratedragon

    November 15, 2022 at 9:30 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:  I’d already been on board because, well, of course I was. But when he said that I knew we’d be ok.

  40. 40.

    Kent

    November 15, 2022 at 9:31 pm

    @FastEdD:There is leaking gas from a huge object tonight in Florida.

    Is this a Trump reference?

  41. 41.

    Amir Khalid

    November 15, 2022 at 9:33 pm

    Is TFG really hoping that declaring for 2024 will get/keep Merrick Garland off his back?

  42. 42.

    dmsilev

    November 15, 2022 at 9:34 pm

    @Kent: NASA is trying (again) to launch SLS, the giant boondoggle rocket that Congress forced onto them.

  43. 43.

    karen marie

    November 15, 2022 at 9:34 pm

    Trump is announcing now when he’s still got the setup for Tiffany’s wedding so he can write off the cost of setting up/taking down all those chairs.  The IRS should make a note to check whether he writes off the food cost for the wedding by tucking it into “expenses” for this “announcement.”

  44. 44.

    raven

    November 15, 2022 at 9:34 pm

    @dmsilev: ARTEMIS!!!!!

  45. 45.

    karen marie

    November 15, 2022 at 9:34 pm

    @Kent:  DeSantis.

  46. 46.

    Elizabelle

    November 15, 2022 at 9:35 pm

    Fuck him.

    But:  indict him.  Arraign him.  Convict him.  Imprison him.  Those are all good, too.

    Not gonna give this criminal another minute’s thought.  No attention.

    And:  FTF FNYTimes has his mug at the top of their website.  Fuck them too, very much.

    Ciao.

  47. 47.

    FelonyGovt

    November 15, 2022 at 9:35 pm

    This should throw a nice grenade into the Georgia runoff. Good!

  48. 48.

    Alison Rose

    November 15, 2022 at 9:35 pm

    @JWR:

    His heart wasn’t in it at all.

    Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.

  49. 49.

    Timill

    November 15, 2022 at 9:37 pm

    Still waiting for tonight’s big announcement: will Tennessee still be at #5 in the CFB Playoff rankings…?

  50. 50.

    Suzanne

    November 15, 2022 at 9:37 pm

    Narcissist Seeks Attention, news at 11.

  51. 51.

    dmsilev

    November 15, 2022 at 9:37 pm

    Washington Post headline: “Trump, who as president fomented an insurrection, says he is running again”

  52. 52.

    Danielx

    November 15, 2022 at 9:37 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    My understanding is that is incorrect. Being a candidate does not provide a legal shield. On the other hand he has never really conceded that he is no longer president, so the distinction may be a little difficult for him.

  53. 53.

    MazeDancer

    November 15, 2022 at 9:37 pm

    Ballroom full of white people. Nothing but white people.

  54. 54.

    Elizabelle

    November 15, 2022 at 9:38 pm

    The Bezos WaPost is handling it much better.  Just a red breaking news banner.  And now an article, that I shall not click on.  I don’t care. Do you?
    Trump, who as president fomented an insurrection, says he is running again in 2024

  55. 55.

    karen marie

    November 15, 2022 at 9:38 pm

    @Eunicecycle:   Every time I read the name “Nicole Wallace,” I hear “Nicole Palin-babysitter-who-didn’t-quit-when-she-got-that-job Wallace.”

  56. 56.

    JWR

    November 15, 2022 at 9:39 pm

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg:

    It’s going to be actual work – he jumped me on everything from posture to way I hold it.

    The posture thing makes me think you’re learning classical, because otherwise, I’d take a look at some Jimi Page, Eddie Van Halen, Steve Vai and Jimi Hendrix videos. ;)

  57. 57.

    dmsilev

    November 15, 2022 at 9:40 pm

    I already have 4 “Donald Trump is running for President, please send us money” e-mails. Sigh.

  58. 58.

    Elizabelle

    November 15, 2022 at 9:40 pm

    The Los Angeles Times sees the WaPost’s headline (“fomented an insurrection”) and is even better.  Its red breaking news banner:

    Trump, at a weak point, pitches a comeback

    He’s a has been.  Yes!

  59. 59.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    November 15, 2022 at 9:42 pm

    I need some sort of pie filter for the entire internet.  When that fucking orange gelatinous shit stain is mentioned, referenced, linked to, whatever….show me anything else.  My wife asked me about his announcement earlier and I requested that she not mention him to me again.  Ever.   Enough all fucking ready.

  60. 60.

    Splitting Image

    November 15, 2022 at 9:42 pm

    I’m marking the occasion by listening to the original soundtrack of Funny Girl with Barbra Streisand. I’m going to follow it up with Bells are Ringing with Judy Holliday.

  61. 61.

    TS

    November 15, 2022 at 9:44 pm

    @Kent:

    Trump probably has the better mailing list at this point and will suck up a lot of the dipshit MAGA small dollars that would have gone elsewhere.

    He is already pulling in $$$ while asking for donations to the Georgia senate runoff

  62. 62.

    JWR

    November 15, 2022 at 9:47 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Is TFG really hoping that declaring for 2024 will get/keep Merrick Garland off his back?

    I just switched to one of the networks, and one of TFG’s former henchmen was on saying that with this announcement, TFG is daring the DOJ to indict him.

    I’m sure Garland is shaking in his boots! ;)

  63. 63.

    Tony G

    November 15, 2022 at 9:47 pm

    Captain Obvious here … 1) Donald Trump does not look like a physically healthy man.  Physically, he’s a mess.   2) That “Mar-a-lago ballroom”.  Jesus H Christ.  If Liberace were to come back to life he would reject that room as being much too tastelessly garish.   I continue to be astonished that tens of millions of Red Blooded Real Americans worship that prancing piece of garbage.

  64. 64.

    Ken

    November 15, 2022 at 9:47 pm

    @dmsilev: @Elizabelle: And NPR: “Donald Trump, who tried to overthrow the results of the 2020 presidential election and inspired a deadly riot at the Capitol in a desperate attempt to keep himself in power, has filed to run for president again in 2024.

    I’m not normally a conspiracy theorist, but it does feel like someone told the press that it’s now OK to say Trump tried to overthrow the government.

  65. 65.

    Percysowner

    November 15, 2022 at 9:48 pm

    I have to admit that tweet about Biden thanking Trump for giving him a second term was the first thing I thought when it became official. I mean, maybe not, but this will give Democrats a real reason to turn out, just in case.

    Plus, if Trump doesn’t get the nomination, you know he will run as an Independent, well actually the newly formed MAGA Party and appoint various favorites to take on the Republicans who “betrayed” him by not anointing him as their guy.

    I know I will knock doors, give money, make phone calls and write postcards to keep him and his ilk out of office.

    I really, really want Lindsay Graham to have been right when he said “If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed…….and we will deserve it.”

  66. 66.

    lgerard

    November 15, 2022 at 9:48 pm

    LOL this old guy and his stories are boring even Fox

    Is it my imagination or is the venue decorated with leftovers from Tiffany’s wedding?

  67. 67.

    Avalune

    November 15, 2022 at 9:48 pm

    I watched as much as I could stand. Toned way back on the hate rhetoric – guess he figured out it isn’t going well outside his group of Magats. Almost sounds sane? Thought still plenty of lies and nonsense. I don’t know – very weird and frankly scares me more than if he was his usual self because it’s slightly more believable that he could be reasonable? If that makes sense. I mean I’m not buying what he’s selling but it would have been a lot easier if he was up there being crazytown.

    I knew it was coming – I knew he wouldn’t back down even with people pissed at him for midterms but even so… hearing it is like.. I can’t do this again dammit.

  68. 68.

    Suzanne

    November 15, 2022 at 9:48 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: Concur. The only news I want to hear about Trump is that he died in prison or he was shot into the surface of the sun.

  69. 69.

    eachother

    November 15, 2022 at 9:49 pm

    MSNBC pretty much ignored all but a mention of cheat-o’s announcement.
    Good precedent.

  70. 70.

    Captain C

    November 15, 2022 at 9:50 pm

    @Tony G:

    That “Mar-a-lago ballroom”.  Jesus H Christ.

    Misread that as Mar-a-lago BATHroom.

    If Liberace were to come back to life he would reject that room as being much too tastelessly garish.

    True about the ballroom or the bathroom.

  71. 71.

    Splitting Image

    November 15, 2022 at 9:51 pm

    @Avalune:

    I watched as much as I could stand. Toned way back on the hate rhetoric – guess he figured out it isn’t going well outside his group of Magats. Almost sounds sane? Thought still plenty of lies and nonsense. I don’t know – very weird and frankly scares me more than if he was his usual self because it’s slightly more believable that he could be reasonable? If that makes sense. I mean I’m not buying what he’s selling but it would have been a lot easier if he was up there being crazytown.

    It’s a long campaign. If he doesn’t give his mob the red meat, they’ll stop showing up. Trump’s ego won’t allow him to endure two solid years of crowds as small as his hands.

  72. 72.

    Another Scott

    November 15, 2022 at 9:52 pm

    TFG as Milton is very, very wrong.

    :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  73. 73.

    Baud

    November 15, 2022 at 9:53 pm

    Stafanik is probably excited about backing Trump right now.

  74. 74.

    Ivan X

    November 15, 2022 at 9:54 pm

    Oh gd, this shit again? Do we have to?

  75. 75.

    JWR

    November 15, 2022 at 9:55 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    Objection. Assumes facts not in evidence.

    Tee hee! Matter of fact, my first draft went: “His heart, if he’s really got a heart, isn’t in it at all”, but I trimmed that part out. ;)

  76. 76.

    Ken

    November 15, 2022 at 9:55 pm

    @Ivan X: Don’t blame me, it was the Republicans who made the Faustian bargain and didn’t read the fine print.

  77. 77.

    tjmn

    November 15, 2022 at 9:56 pm

    Did each chair have an ass in it at the announcement?

  78. 78.

    kalakal

    November 15, 2022 at 9:57 pm

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: I can relate to his dislike of tab. Even if they’re accurate they almost never show the timing. Believe me you can fluff notes and get away with it, get the timing wrong and everyone knows it

  79. 79.

    Avalune

    November 15, 2022 at 9:58 pm

    @Splitting Image: Haha good point. Thanks for talking me off the cliff. I still don’t wanna be up here though.

  80. 80.

    West of the Rockies

    November 15, 2022 at 9:59 pm

    @MazeDancer:

    No Diamond and Silk or Ye?  How did such fine people not merit an invitation?

  81. 81.

    Cameron

    November 15, 2022 at 10:00 pm

    Maybe he figured if he toned it down, the RNC might start giving him money again.

  82. 82.

    TS

    November 15, 2022 at 10:02 pm

    @karen marie:

    The IRS should make a note to check whether he writes off the food cost for the wedding by tucking it into “expenses” for this “announcement

    And did he even pay it – probably paid for by the groom.

  83. 83.

    lgerard

    November 15, 2022 at 10:03 pm

    trump wants to ban congress people from trading stocks or going into lobbying after their time in office is up.

    No word on Presidents using their properties to grossly overcharge the FBI agents protecting them though.

  84. 84.

    NotMax

    November 15, 2022 at 10:04 pm

    Trump has invited some members of congress to mar a lago for his announcement.

    Offloading leftovers from the wedding?

    “These crudites are kind of … limp.”

    //

  85. 85.

    kalakal

    November 15, 2022 at 10:04 pm

    @Splitting Image:

    It’s a long campaign. If he doesn’t give his mob the red meat, they’ll stop showing up. Trump’s ego won’t allow him to endure two solid years of crowds as small as his hands.

    The chances of Trump controlling himself and not spewing MAGA shit for 2 years is zero. It’ll be the same garbage as before.

  86. 86.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 15, 2022 at 10:05 pm

    Jonathan Chait @jonathanchait 28m

    I LOL’d at Trump recounting that he was told he won the border for the first time since Reconstruction. “I guess that’s what they call the Civil War”

  87. 87.

    Leto

    November 15, 2022 at 10:06 pm

    We’ll see if this is actually true, and if the idiots get the memo:

    Murdoch tells Trump he will not back fresh White House bid – report
    Media mogul turns to ‘DeFuture’ Ron DeSantis after ex-president’s poor showing in midterm elections

  88. 88.

    Danielx

    November 15, 2022 at 10:06 pm

    @Avalune:

    As far as crazytown is concerned, stay tuned because sooner rather than later he will come out with some really outrageous shit. His back is to all too many walls and he will come back against his opponents in the usual two ways for him. Those being unending delaying actions in court and rabid wolverine attacks on perceived opponents. Pointing out the obvious, I know – but I suspect we haven’t yet seen the depths of the craziness of Donald Trump, because he’s never been this far up shit creek before.

  89. 89.

    Lulymay

    November 15, 2022 at 10:09 pm

    @karen marie: Nailed it, karen marie, absolutely nailed it!   That is a Trump feature in spades.

  90. 90.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    November 15, 2022 at 10:11 pm

    @Leto: It won’t be that hard. They’ll gradually start doing real reporting on his criminal trials, rather than carrying his water. Law and Order, y’know

    His hard core Q fans won’t let him go. Persecuting him will all be one big conspiracy. Instead of working to make these people seem semi-reasonable, they can just let the crazy show. It will turn some Fox viewers against Trump.

  91. 91.

    Danielx

    November 15, 2022 at 10:14 pm

    @Danielx:

    Re-reading comment above: do I sound like a pompous mansplaining horse’s ass? Why yes, yes I do.

  92. 92.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 15, 2022 at 10:14 pm

    BREAKING: Orange County CA just dumped more than 12,000 votes and Katie Porter got nearly 54% of the vote. That means she now leads her opponent by more than 3,700 votes overall. This is looking really good for Katie Porter and Democrats.

  93. 93.

    Dadadadadadada

    November 15, 2022 at 10:14 pm

    @Baud: That’s what she said. To Donald Trump.

  94. 94.

    JWR

    November 15, 2022 at 10:16 pm

    @Danielx:

    … because he’s never been this far up shit creek before.

    Yeah, you know, maybe the subdued air in the room tells us that he knows how close the indictments are to slamming down around his bloated neck?

  95. 95.

    Geminid

    November 15, 2022 at 10:17 pm

    @lgerard: I guess Trump is trying rebrand himself. A calm, earnest man, concerned with good, reasonable ethics reform. You’d think he was running for head of Common Cause!

    That pivot ain’t gonna last long. Dr. Jekyll will turn back into Mr.Hyde by tomorrow, if not sooner.

  96. 96.

    randy khan

    November 15, 2022 at 10:19 pm

    @tjmn:

    [Insert joke about the guy at the front of the room.]

  97. 97.

    James E Powell

    November 15, 2022 at 10:19 pm

    I will never fully recover from 2016. To be frank, I will never recover from 2000 either. But if Karen Bass wins the Los Angeles mayor’s race, some of my faith in democracy will be restored. She currently leads by 36K, but there are hundreds of thousand more ballots to count.

  98. 98.

    Ivan X

    November 15, 2022 at 10:20 pm

    I am kinda surprised he didn’t come out guns blazing. Like his whole schtick is brazening his way out and Gish galloping; what’s accomplished by not doing that? It adds to his loser stink, and he’s certainly not gonna win hearts and minds at this point. Was he just planning on this after triumphant midterms, and then when he got his nuts kicked instead, he went through with it despite still having a squeaky voice?

  99. 99.

    prostratedragon

    November 15, 2022 at 10:21 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann:
    A humanitarian named Tom Royal has a couple of firefox addons along those lines. Make America Kittens Again traps images of TFG and replaces them on your screen with kitten pictures. Not flawless, but can really help keep blood pressure within bounds. The only way I made through 2019-20. Might have to re-enable it soon.

    He also has one called Kitten Block which replaces entire articles from the Daily Mail and Daily Express with images of kittens, tea settings, and the like. Unfortunately not configurable (with MAKA you can add culprits, e.g. Putin), but for any programmers out there, it proves the concept.

  100. 100.

    sdhays

    November 15, 2022 at 10:24 pm

    As much as I loathe TFG, the Republican Party must be forced to deal with this monster until it destroys them or they destroy it, so I welcome this announcement. The weakness of the announcement – horrible timing while everyone in the party is pissed off and an unusually large number are pissed off at T-rump himself, low energy, slapdick planning and rollout, the lack of interest from the mainstream media – will lead credence to the idea that there’s real blood in the water and that Trump can be taken down.

    When Warnock defeats Walker, after Trumpy Dump hoovers up a bunch of money that was supposedly going to support Walker, more people will be fed up with him. And then DeSanctimonious will find it impossible to wait for 2028. Others will follow suit. And Trump will have a real fight again. And whoever wins, but especially if it isn’t Trump, will be very weakened by the time 2024 comes around.

    The implosion of Twitter is a disaster of Trump, too. Without Twitter, his ability to drive the media is almost the same as a regular Republican politician – more than warranted, but far from individually dominant. If he somehow gets let back on now (and at this point, even Elmu doesn’t know what’s going to happen at Twitter one day to the next, except hemorrhaging more money), he will probably just hasten Twitter’s rapid demise to the point that it may not even have the lights on by 2024 (and there’s a distinct possibility that it won’t last anywhere close to that long).

  101. 101.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    November 15, 2022 at 10:24 pm

    @frosty: Too much like math to my old brain. I can get it, but it’s a struggle.

  102. 102.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    November 15, 2022 at 10:26 pm

    @JWR: Oh no – country, folk, rock.

  103. 103.

    TS

    November 15, 2022 at 10:26 pm

    I have trouble believing the media will stay away from trump for very long. They suggested that in 2014 – wasn’t long before they were all in the cages at the rallies.

    Trump wants to be in the headlines – and he will be – once he gets back onto twitter (if it lasts that long) he will be quoted continually – everywhere.

  104. 104.

    Ken

    November 15, 2022 at 10:33 pm

    @JWR: maybe the subdued air in the room tells us that

    … the hired crowd were beginning to wonder when the promised buffet would open?

  105. 105.

    eachother

    November 15, 2022 at 10:33 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    Fake gold. Fake crowd. Same old.
    The fraud is thicker than the veneer.

    ETA:  and to Ken too.
    read your comment above after posting post

  106. 106.

    tjmn

    November 15, 2022 at 10:34 pm

    @randy khan:  Well, that is a given!

  107. 107.

    Jinchi

    November 15, 2022 at 10:36 pm

    I have trouble believing the media will stay away from trump for very long.

    Stay away from him?

    Every news organization had 3 reporters lined up outside Mar-a-Lago waiting for the most unsurprising announcement in history.

    They stayed away from him for about 6 months after Twitter finally banned him. He’s been in the news almost daily ever since.

  108. 108.

    The Moar You Know

    November 15, 2022 at 10:41 pm

    That was fucking weak.  Where’s the wound-up rage?   The copied Mussolini gestures?   Where’s the beef, to use a really outdated term?   This Trump doesn’t seem to have what it takes to really do some damage to the GOP, which I have been looking forward to for quite some time.

    Instead we get weak sad poop read (obviously for the very first time) off a teleprompter.  Poorly.

    The highlight was that I was surprised and somewhat relieved to discover that he can, in fact, read.

  109. 109.

    zhena gogolia

    November 15, 2022 at 10:48 pm

    I spent the evening with Lesley Manville and Timothy Dalton in The Crown. Much better company.

  110. 110.

    RSA

    November 15, 2022 at 10:49 pm

    @dmsilev: Yes, much better.  Subheading:

    The twice-impeached former president has been eager to declare his candidacy, hoping to get ahead of likely rivals and potential criminal charges

    Opening paragraph:

    PALM BEACH, Fla. — Donald Trump, the twice-impeached former president who refused to concede defeat and inspired a failed attempt to overturn the 2020 election culminating in a deadly attack on the U.S. Capitol, officially declared on Tuesday night that he is running to retake the White House in 2024.

  111. 111.

    Geminid

    November 15, 2022 at 10:49 pm

    @The Moar You Know: Maybe he’s on psych meds.

  112. 112.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 15, 2022 at 10:49 pm

    Katherine Faulders @KFaulders

    Quite the statement from Ivanka Trump tonight who did not attend Trump’s announcement. Says she doesn’t plan to be involved in politics and will support her father outside the political arena

  113. 113.

    Ruckus

    November 15, 2022 at 10:54 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    You might not be able to pay me enough to watch it but there are people rich enough to be able to. Of course after they paid me to watch it they wouldn’t be rich any longer……

  114. 114.

    Aussie Sheila

    November 15, 2022 at 10:55 pm

    Watch the media pump up his ‘reasonable republican’ opposition. He is now just a media plaything. Dangerous, but not dangerous enough to wean the media from its ‘both sides’ schtik.

    This is bad. Very, very bad.

    The best thing that could happen would be for him to lose the nom and run as an independent. We can only hope.

    The Republican Party is the most dangerous organisation in the world today. Bar none.

  115. 115.

    Ruckus

    November 15, 2022 at 10:59 pm

    @Danielx:

    I’ve always thought that every distinction is hard for him….

    @MazeDancer:

    Ballroom full of shitty white people. FIFY.

  116. 116.

    Jackie

    November 15, 2022 at 11:00 pm

    President Biden’s response:

    (Click the embedded link)

    President Biden was ready for tonight’s announcement by releasing a video titled “Donald Trump failed America.”

    Political Wire

  117. 117.

    Ruckus

    November 15, 2022 at 11:16 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann:

    I just checked my mail and I had more emails today than at any time during the last election. By almost double.

    99% of them is about SFB and his very public attempt to be awarded a get out of jail free card and how much I should send them because of it. The rest of them were just asking for money.

    I’d really, really like this country to grow up. I mean many are actual adults and reasonably act like it but way, way too many are on the tantrum train, shoveling the coal in like there is no tomorrow because they can’t get their way and have the country fail. I’d say it could be vlad’s fault but he seems awfully busy trying to steal another country at the moment, and having a rather shitty time at that.

  118. 118.

    oldgold

    November 15, 2022 at 11:16 pm

    I am not forming an opinion on the announcement until I hear from the coffee klatch at Nick’s Cafe in Burnt Stump, Iowa on CNN tomorrow morning.

  119. 119.

    Ruckus

    November 15, 2022 at 11:21 pm

    @Jackie:

    I just checked twitter to see how it’s going over there. I don’t feel like I’ll ever have to do that again. It was fun but it’s turned into the deepest level of shit show ever. Not even close to the cost of admission – and that’s free.

  120. 120.

    Brachiator

    November 15, 2022 at 11:27 pm

    @The Moar You Know:

    Instead we get weak sad poop read (obviously for the very first time) off a teleprompter.  Poorly.

    Trump only comes alive during his rallies. The official announcement was expectedly stale.

    He will soon reveal his true self. I bet there will be more unhinged bullshit.

    The thing is, we know Trump’s record. He is not an unknown making promises.

    It will also be interesting to see how savagely he attacks the GOP. And it will be interesting to see which Republicans scurry back to kiss Trump’s butt after talking bad about him.

  121. 121.

    Leto

    November 15, 2022 at 11:30 pm

    @sdhays:

    after Trumpy Dump hoovers up a bunch of money that was supposedly going to support Walker

    I was listening to the Obama Bros today and they reported that it was a 9:1 funnel. Just incredible.

  122. 122.

    TS

    November 15, 2022 at 11:31 pm

    @Percysowner:

    I have to admit that tweet about Biden thanking Trump for giving him a second term was the first thing I thought when it became official. I mean, maybe not, but this will give Democrats a real reason to turn out, just in case.

    That’s what everyone thought in 2016 – Hillary would walk it in. Nothing would surprise me if trump wins the primary again

  123. 123.

    Jackie

    November 15, 2022 at 11:31 pm

    @Ruckus: I don’t do Twitter. I read some that are posted here and from embedded links from articles. That’s plenty for me, and keeps me from dealing with the garbage.

  124. 124.

    Jackie

    November 15, 2022 at 11:35 pm

    @TS: Trump will only get the GQP nomination if he really has the blackmail dirt he’s hinted he has on those brash enough to challenge him.

  125. 125.

    TS

    November 15, 2022 at 11:39 pm

    @Jackie:

    If Biden runs without opposition there could be a large number of independents/democrats who think he is a sure loser – and vote in the GOP primary?

  126. 126.

    Leto

    November 15, 2022 at 11:39 pm

    @sdhays: follow up: Sen Bayou Kennedy is getting in on the Walker grift.

  127. 127.

    BruceFromOhio

    November 15, 2022 at 11:41 pm

    “I will fully engage with this when I know what I am engaging with.”

    Jesus H. Fucking Christmas, would you like me to draw you a fucking map.

  128. 128.

    Jackie

    November 15, 2022 at 11:43 pm

    Good article from Jennifer Rubin:

    “Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) will remain the minority leader, and it is almost entirely because he and the rest of the Republican Party never had the nerve to reject Donald Trump and his crackpot MAGA nominees. Lost opportunities and defeats will continue to plague the GOP unless Republicans offload the former president and drop the election-denying, conspiracy-mongering MAGA extremism that now defines the party.”

    Rest of the article here:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/11/15/mcconnell-republican-party-dump-trump/?utm_campaign=wp_follow_jennifer_rubin&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl-jenniferrubin&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F38558e7%2F63738c8a7e2620469f106bf6%2F596e6b089bbc0f5f7c1c0282%2F6%2F19%2F63738c8a7e2620469f106bf6&wp_cu=f9cc6d9686b987c3b27dda1a19693b42%7CC0DBB7666BAB2B3DE0430100007F44AE

  129. 129.

    RaflW

    November 15, 2022 at 11:44 pm

    @sdhays: The self-abnegating Sen Lindsey Graham had so much praise for Tramp’s speech that it took two tweets to fit all the lickspittle.

  130. 130.

    C Stars

    November 15, 2022 at 11:45 pm

    Well now we know: it’s either going to be this pudgy fascist Florida Guy or that pudgy fascist Florida Guy as the GOP nominee in ’24. The suspense is killing me.

  131. 131.

    Jackie

    November 15, 2022 at 11:47 pm

    @TS: Really? I doubt that very much. This election showed more people voted for democracy than what the GQP offered.

  132. 132.

    PJ

    November 15, 2022 at 11:48 pm

    @TS: Uh, Biden decisively beat Trump once, and if the Republicans nominate some Trump-lite like DeSantis, he’ll crush him too.  Two years is a long time from now, politically speaking, so who knows what the world will look like, but it’s difficult to imagine the Republicans nominating someone Biden wouldn’t beat.

    If Biden decides not to run, the Democratic primary will be a free for all, with Harris the likely winner, and whoever the nominee is, their victory in the general election is no sure thing.

  133. 133.

    RaflW

    November 15, 2022 at 11:50 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I enjoyed that she said she was “proud of many of our administration’s successes.”

    Probably just sh*t writing, thinking she meant proud of our many accomplishments. But as expressed, she strongly implies she isn’t proud of some of them (this could, in fact, be true).

  134. 134.

    TS

    November 15, 2022 at 11:50 pm

    @Jackie:

    I’m talking about the primary – not the general election – and there were many who voted for the MAGA folks in the primary who would never vote for the GOP in the general. That worked will this time around.

  135. 135.

    Poe Larity

    November 15, 2022 at 11:55 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Daddy throws daughter under the bus.

    She was not faithful enough to the cause.

  136. 136.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 15, 2022 at 11:58 pm

    Tonight’s Trump announcement will produce euphoria amongst the dumbest people in who are the Republican Party, and dread amongst the smartest.

    Fixed that for you, Ron.

  137. 137.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 16, 2022 at 12:01 am

    NASA might launch Artemis I in 30 minutes

  138. 138.

    The Pale Scot

    November 16, 2022 at 12:12 am

    I don\t see how declaring He’s running for political office shields him from prosecution  .

    Until he’s nominated he’s JAG, I would have run for every office in the state if it kept me clear of my drug possession charges 

  139. 139.

    piratedan

    November 16, 2022 at 12:15 am

    well, we just turned them away at the walls this year from some of the most important positions, but it looks like we’ll still have to deal with a zoo-like Congress…

    I fully expect that their partisans in the media will get on board with these breathless attempts to impeach Pelosi, Fauci, Biden and his son Hunter for any and all kinds of nefarious imaginary bullshit.

    If Warnock wins the run-off… I kind of expect the Senate to get behind the task of rebuilding the government with judicial appointments and fast-tracking a bunch administrative backfill thruout a whole boatload of agencies.

    Other outcomes may be the delay in rooting out Trump loyalists in the government and a calling to account those folks in the government who were sympathetic to the coup.  Maybe the DOJ will get around to that piece of business but until shoes start dropping, I would really like those in power at the cabinet level to chew gum and walk at the same time, on one hand repairing the country and in the second restoring faith in government by kicking out the Trumpists and those beholden to the Federalist Society.

    I don’t want to underestimate what Biden can do, but cripes, he’s got a pretty potent bench of adversaries, all of the dark money behind the GOP, the christo-fascist movements, a good portion of the media and all of those unhinged millions that have been created thru decades of misinformation.  Hoping we can weather this time, I fear as we continue to frustrate the fascists politically that we’ll see their lackeys on the SCOTUS make even more outrageous rulings and more political violence.

  140. 140.

    ColoradoGuy

    November 16, 2022 at 12:16 am

    The trajectories of T****, Elmo, Twitter, and Putin all appear to be converging to a common point. If the Flying Spaghetti Monster really loves us, they will all disappear beyond the Event Horizon before 2024.

  141. 141.

    danielx

    November 16, 2022 at 12:19 am

    @C Stars:

    today’s win for the intertubes.

  142. 142.

    Jackie

    November 16, 2022 at 12:20 am

    @TS: I say sit back and watch the leopards eat their own faces.

  143. 143.

    Alison Rose

    November 16, 2022 at 12:21 am

    @mrmoshpotato: can we put trump in it

  144. 144.

    danielx

    November 16, 2022 at 12:23 am

    @ColoradoGuy: ​
     
    Pretty fuckin’ surreal, as in “the fate of a great many people is in the hands of these dipshits?”.

  145. 145.

    bjacques

    November 16, 2022 at 12:41 am

    And, just like that, Teralbay made sense. I just needed the right context.

  146. 146.

    kalakal

    November 16, 2022 at 12:45 am

    Artemis I is 20 minutes to launch. We’ll be going outside to watch soon

  147. 147.

    Citizen Alan

    November 16, 2022 at 1:11 am

    @piratedan: Even with a GOP House, can they really stage a frivolous impeachment effort or even a bunch of frivolous investigative hearings if 2 or 3 GOoPers refuse to go along?

  148. 148.

    West of the Rockies

    November 16, 2022 at 3:03 am

    @C Stars:

    One Floridiot or the other…

  149. 149.

    Ruckus

    November 16, 2022 at 5:56 am

    @Jackie:

    It has gotten sensationally worse over the last few days.

    All things considered it didn’t take long to get exponentially worse. I figured that it wasn’t going to stay intact, what with an idiot in charge, throwing bombs in every direction because he really, really, really has zero idea what he’s doing. He was supposed to be this smart rich dude but he’s proven to be stupid rich dumbshit. I shall name him SRD. Goes  along with SFB.

  150. 150.

    trnc

    November 16, 2022 at 7:05 am

    @Jackie: Trump will only get the GQP nomination if he really has the blackmail dirt he’s hinted he has on those brash enough to challenge him.

    I’m having a tough time figuring out what a republican could be blackmailed with that would lose them support. Being kind to someone while they think no one is looking? Associating with a Muslim who isn’t wealthy and powerful?

  151. 151.

    trnc

    November 16, 2022 at 7:07 am

    @Citizen Alan: They only need committee members for hearings, so expect relevant committees to be full magat.

  152. 152.

    Chief Oshkosh

    November 16, 2022 at 8:13 am

    @Jackie: Meh. She’s still not admitting to herself that her (supposedly) former party has been rotten to the core since…at least Nixon. And she’s still not willing to admit that, fundamentally, it’s because people who vote Republicans are, pretty much these days at least, rotten to the core.

    Oh well, at least she’s still banging on about how fucked up the current Republican Party is.

  153. 153.

    JML

    November 16, 2022 at 8:14 am

    Lindsey Graham really is something. Would he cease to exist if he didn’t have someone else to attach himself to and use as his polestar? I just find it baffling how someone who imports his entire political orientation, policy stances, and moral compass from someone else could have ever gotten himself elected in the first place. He has got to be the most confounding politician I’ve ever seen. Who will he attach himself to when TFG goes down again? Maybe there could be a game show where whomever wins gets Lindsey’s allegiance.

  154. 154.

    Tony G

    November 16, 2022 at 8:32 am

    @lgerard: Donald Trump in the role of Grandpa Simpson.

  155. 155.

    Steve Crickmore

    November 16, 2022 at 10:59 am

    @C Stars:  The worst rages are over what Freud called  ‘the narcissism of small differences’. In psychoanalysis, the narcissism of small differences (German: der Narzissmus der kleinen Differenzen) is the idea that the more a relationship or community shares commonalities, the more likely the people in it are to engage in interpersonal feuds and mutual ridicule because of hypersensitivity to minor differences perceived in each other.[1] The term was coined by Sigmund Freud in 1917, based on the earlier work of English anthropologist Ernest Crawley. Crawley theorized that each individual is separated from others by a taboo of personal isolation, which is effectively a narcissism of minor differences.

  156. 156.

    Paul in KY

    November 16, 2022 at 11:14 am

    @Tony G: His dupes/minions have no taste!

  157. 157.

    Paul in KY

    November 16, 2022 at 11:15 am

    @Suzanne: Hanged as a traitor would also work.

  158. 158.

    Paul in KY

    November 16, 2022 at 11:18 am

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: I wonder if the scum who run Q will start putting out fan fic about DeSatanis?

  159. 159.

    Paul in KY

    November 16, 2022 at 11:19 am

    @James E Powell: 68 was bad too…

  160. 160.

    Paul in KY

    November 16, 2022 at 11:34 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Et tu, Hotfilia?

  161. 161.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    November 16, 2022 at 1:02 pm

    So apparently Murrock’s tag line from Trump is

    “Been there, Don that.”

    Gaetz could be bothered to show at the announcement. The Press was staying so many people were walking out Trump on out of shear boredom during his speech that his staffed were blocking the door. lol

    And it’s noon and apparently Trump BIG Announcement is down memory hole already.  Maybe, because the rest of the country is still dealing with Midterms and the war.  Me suspects Trump won’t do well at all without Murdoccks media support.

  162. 162.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    November 16, 2022 at 1:06 pm

    @trnc: I’m having a tough time figuring out what a republican could be blackmailed with that would lose them support. Being kind to someone while they think no one is looking? Associating with a Muslim who isn’t wealthy and powerful?

    Maybe Trump has film of Turtle feeding the homeless with Jimmy Carter?  Considering many Republicans think Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer and they still vote for him.

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