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These Lying Fucks

by John Cole|  November 29, 20222:46 pm| 79 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Just Shut the Fuck Up

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Georgia Gov. Kemp on Trump's dinner with antisemites and a white nationalist: “Racism, antisemitism and denial of the Holocaust have no place in the Republican Party and are completely un-American.”https://t.co/N361PGRaS6

— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) November 28, 2022

Who the fuck do these guys think they are fooling? Why are they allowed to just spew this bullshit with no one in the media or elsewhere calling them out.

First off, let’s deal with the fact that this is who Trump is and who he has been for the last fucking however long he has been on the national political scene. The motherfucker came flouncing down an escalator in the year of our lord 2015 and the first thing he did was cover the attending media and nation with racist bukkake. His entire presidency was a fucking display of white supremacist bullshit. It’s a little fucking rich that these guys are just now noticing it.

Second, let’s look at the record of Kemp, which has been nothing but racist attempts to disfranchise any constituent who wouldn’t look like an extra at the Masters.

And finally, this bullshit that there is something un-American about racism or anti-semitism. It’s not only not un-American, but racism is one of the foundational tenets of our society from the fucking initial constitution onward. And it has been embraced with open arms by the Republican party of which Kemp a member. In just the past few decades the very same Republican party swelled it’s ranks with former Dixiecrats, Ehrlichman and Nixon launched the war on drugs to use it to lock up black people and hippies in the sixties and seventies to Lee Atwater spilling the tea to school busing riots in Boston to redlining to the growth of HOA’s to putting highways through black communities to the way we use property taxes to fund schools to the last forty years of an overt attack on anything in the public sphere because if minorities get to benefit alongside white people well we just gotta get rid of that shit. Do you know how many public pools we filled with concrete instead of letting black people use them.

Fuck these motherfuckers.

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  1. 1.

    J R in WV

    November 29, 2022 at 2:50 pm

    John, You obviously have studied the Repuke party in depth and detail.

    Thanks for sharing this with us. It’s totally on point,, and applies to the Supreme Court as well as Kemp and the rest of the southern Republican christo-fascist monsters. Evil personified!

    ETA:

    The desert Jew typically referred to as Jesus in America would shudder to learn about the people calling themselves “Evangelical Christians” in today’s America! They reject his teachings totaly!

  2. 2.

    C Stars

    November 29, 2022 at 2:56 pm

    Why do we (the media, whatever) let them get away with it? They vote in and support racists, pedophiles, bullies, grifters, idiots, and psychopaths, and then when one of those folks does something racist, pedophilic, bullying, grifting, idiotic, or psychopathic, they say “This isn’t who we are.” WHO ARE YOU, then?

  3. 3.

    dr. bloor

    November 29, 2022 at 2:59 pm

    Who the fuck do these guys think they are fooling?

    The national media.  They’re going to wrap up the last six years of ugliness into a tiny ball, stuff it in Trump’s underwear, and pretend it never happened.  And the media will swallow it whole, as they always do, blithely ignoring the fact that DeSantis and the other favorites are knock-offs of the original.

  4. 4.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    November 29, 2022 at 3:02 pm

    The reason why is because our media better are laser focused on what is important in today’s America;

    The Washington Post: The Hard Core Cult of Diet Coke

    New York Times:  Painted Hardwood Floors.

    It’s just one layer circus clowns after another.

  5. 5.

    ETtheLibrarian

    November 29, 2022 at 3:03 pm

    White Citizens Council v robe wearing KKK. They only ever differed in what they wore and their vocabulary. Both are racists but the former more successfully hide behind a suite and southern preacher hair cut and the press lets them get away with it. Increasingly the WCC is saying eff-that!

    For decades the GOP has trying to make it like the Democrats and others were tarring them with a brush they didn’t deserve but….

    Donald tRump got through the nomination process in the GOP not the Democratic Party. For a reason.

    He won as a member of the GOP. For a reason.

    He ran for reelection as a member of the GOP. For a reason.

    The party and many of his members picked up the it was stolen banner with little push-back and no little amount of revenge on those in the party that weren’t sufficiently loyal to Dear Leader.

    The only reason he wouldn’t run as a GOP this time would be because of pique and not because a significant number of GOP voters and electeds don’t agree with him or at least want to use his coattails. If he does manage to successfully get the nomination it will likely be as a Republican.

    tRump has a home in the GOP. For a reason. And nothing the GOP party apparatus at the national much less state/local level is doing anything to change that. They made a home for that type of thinking and let it continue and even encouraged it. This is who they are.

  6. 6.

    Van Buren

    November 29, 2022 at 3:09 pm

    I wonder if Kemp has ever heard of Leo Frank.

  7. 7.

    The Moar You Know

    November 29, 2022 at 3:13 pm

    Do you know how many public pools we filled with concrete instead of letting black people use them.

    Too expensive.  They just filled ’em full of dirt and called them parks.

    In a twist that would have you thrown out of any writer’s meeting, public swimming pools were in fact the main transmission route for polio.

    “Racism, antisemitism and denial of the Holocaust have no place in the Republican Party and are completely un-American.”

    Translation:  “we did some focus groups on the down low and found our voters like plausible deniability, so we’re going to get Trump’s filthy hands off the tiller and get that sweet Chamber of Commerce money grift thing going again.  They pay a lot better than some pissed off contractor who’s behind on his four alimony payments.”

  8. 8.

    Capri

    November 29, 2022 at 3:15 pm

    This is Kemp keeping up his Brave-Stand-For-The -Truth-Against-Trump persona.  He’s saying way more than 90% of the rest of his party would ever say. The perception that he’s a hero because he stood up to Trump won him re-election, and he’s sticking with it.  As for all that other stuff, the GOP is just very concerned with election integrity.

  9. 9.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    November 29, 2022 at 3:18 pm

    I’m not religious but I wanted to yell “AMEN!” at the conclusion of your ‘sermon’. Our pathetic excuse for ‘news’ is wired to excuse Republicans and blame Democrats, 24/7/365. That’s why I quit all news broadcasts long ago; you come away dumber every time you hear the news.

    As they intend it to be.

  10. 10.

    Old School

    November 29, 2022 at 3:20 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: The media has always had non-hard news sections.

    CNN just ran a story about a trend of not wearing pants.

  11. 11.

    Raoul Paste

    November 29, 2022 at 3:21 pm

    Hey, the corporations that fund these horrible people have to claim some veneer of respectability.

    So we get a little performance like this every now and then

  12. 12.

    laura

    November 29, 2022 at 3:24 pm

    H1B staffing his properties, Birtherism, Central Park 5, Unfair Housing, Coen and Cohen- it’s been known as far back as Woody Guthrie calling out this family’s propensity for racist fuckery. The rest of that political party’s refusal to acknowledge what is plainly it’s central core tenet is something to behold- but they’ve had great support over the decades from a complacent infotainment industry.

  13. 13.

    VOR

    November 29, 2022 at 3:25 pm

    @Capri: in 2018 Kemp ran an ad which basically said vote for me because I’ve got a big truck which can round up more illegals. I’m paraphrasing, but not much.

  14. 14.

    Zzyzx

    November 29, 2022 at 3:26 pm

    @Old School:

    TBH, those are the sections that got people to buy the paper which funded the rest of it.

  15. 15.

    Ohio Mom

    November 29, 2022 at 3:27 pm

    Maybe Trump wasn’t quite in the national scene then, just the NYC scene (though of course we New Yorkers think we are the beginning and end all), but he was an openly loud asshole racist in the late 1980s — who could forget his full-page ad in the New York Times (and I think a few other local papers) calling for the death penalty for the Central Park Five (who were eventually exonerated).

  16. 16.

    Ohio Mom

    November 29, 2022 at 3:37 pm

    @Ohio Mom: We New Yorkers also always knew Trump was a liar and a cheat who stiffed his contractors.

    A well known local story about Trump concerned the famed Art Deco building he tore down and replaced with that glitzy and tacky Trump Tower. He had promised the Metropolitan Museum of Art that he would save the building’s frieze for their sculpture collection and then promptly pulverized it.

    (I know my nym  is “Ohio” Mom but deep inside I consider myself an ex-pat New Yorker.)

  17. 17.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 29, 2022 at 3:40 pm

    First off, let’s deal with the fact that this is who Trump is and who he has been for the last fucking however long he has been on the national political scene.

    I would argue it’s been longer than that.  After all, Dump and his Klan-loving, shitstain dad were sued by the DoJ of Tricky Dick’s administration for not renting apartments to black people.

  18. 18.

    J R in WV

    November 29, 2022 at 3:41 pm

    @VOR:

    @Capri: in 2018 Kemp ran an ad which basically said vote for me because I’ve got a big truck which can round up more illegals. I’m paraphrasing, but not much.

    I was pretty sure it was a bus, though… with big signs on the sides about illegals? Maybe not.

    Of course, in GA, without illegals on the farms, many of the crops will rot in the fields. Dunno how many voters think of that issue…

  19. 19.

    UncleEbeneezer

    November 29, 2022 at 3:50 pm

    News: Just now in court, Florida defense lawyer indicated that the feds still have an ongoing investigation against Rep. Matt Gaetz. The government’s witness is getting sentenced on Thursday.

  20. 20.

    Old Man Shadow

    November 29, 2022 at 3:58 pm

    Why are they allowed to just spew this bullshit with no one in the media or elsewhere calling them out.

    It would be deeply uncivil to call them out. Also the corporate media is pro-Republican.

  21. 21.

    Roger Moore

    November 29, 2022 at 3:59 pm

    @C Stars: ​
     

    Why do we (the media, whatever) let them get away with it?

    The simple answer is that bigots are a huge part of America. Just based on that, you’d expect just about any institution to be full of them unless they spend real time, effort, and hardship fighting to purge themselves. Naturally, an institution that’s full of bigots will be very reluctant to confront bigotry elsewhere.

  22. 22.

    Aziz, light!

    November 29, 2022 at 4:01 pm

    Rick Wilson’s recent rant on this subject is a must read. When the time comes, they will all be smooching Trump’s rump again.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1597391663273492483.html

  23. 23.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 29, 2022 at 4:02 pm

    @VOR:

    in 2018 Kemp ran an ad which basically said vote for me because I’ve got a big truck which can round up more illegals. I’m paraphrasing, but not much. 

    He also used his position as Secretary of State – overseeing the governor’s race that he was running in – to fuck over communities that Stacey Abrams was likely to win.

  24. 24.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    November 29, 2022 at 4:04 pm

    OT – In one the most Louisville moments of Louisville moments, it turns out that the Team USA fan that got booted for defiantly wearing “One Love” armbands for the Iran match is a local mortgage broker who happens to be the husband of our old babysitter and attends our Orthodox congregation.

    I am super proud of the representation.

  25. 25.

    Aziz, light!

    November 29, 2022 at 4:05 pm

    @Ohio Mom: Way back in the early ’80s, the short-fingered vulgarian’s bullshit was in every issue of Spy Magazine.

  26. 26.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 29, 2022 at 4:07 pm

    @Aziz, light!: what was the final check he cashed? 49 cents?

  27. 27.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    November 29, 2022 at 4:07 pm

    @Aziz, light!:

    He lost them big in the midterms in several competitive races. These people need to grow a spine

  28. 28.

    mrmoshpotato

    November 29, 2022 at 4:08 pm

    @Aziz, light!: Rick Wilson can take his years as a Rethuglican operative and shove them up his ass until they come out his mouth!  And then he can shove his Confederate cooler up his ass too!

  29. 29.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    November 29, 2022 at 4:10 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    According to Mother Jones, just 13 cents lol:

    Spy correspondent Julius Lowenthal wanted to know just how cheap some of the city’s richest figures were. So he set up a company, called the National Refund Clearinghouse, and sent letters with checks for $1.11 enclosed, “for services that you were overcharged for.” The letters went out to 58 “well-known, well-heeled Americans,” 26 of whom promptly cashed them. Curious as to how low they might go, Lowenthal sent those 26 “nabobs” a second refund check, for $0.64. This time, 13 people cashed them.

    Finally, he sent those 13 respondents a check for $0.13. This time, only two people cashed the check. One was an arms dealer. The other was Donald Trump, whom the magazine identified as a “demibillionaire casino operator and adulturer.”

  30. 30.

    Ruckus

    November 29, 2022 at 4:10 pm

    John

    Shit For Brains has been who you (and I and everyone else here) know he is, for basically his entire life. OK I never heard about when he was in single digits, but I’d bet on then as well.

    Decades ago my father used to get Forbes and the WSJ at his business. I’d read them. SFB took after his father, whole heartedly and with gusto. He was shit then and he’s gotten actually worse over those decades, he has just been being that thing more in public. I don’t call him SFB lightly, he earned that and many other things. Remember the NY 5? Remember all the failures? (That’s basically every thing he’s ever done, hell he can’t even play golf without cheating. But he started with a lot of money and that often rounds off those sharp corners of stupid. In his case all it did was add more sharp corners. A sharp corner is a mistake where one should learn and change direction. He never changed direction, he’s too much of an egomaniacal idiot who is always right and every sharp corner is someone else’s fault. He couldn’t even be rich reasonably. Started with $400million, which he could have been worth today around $15-17 BILLION, if he’d just invested reasonably. But he’s not reasonable, not in any sense of the word. He is a racist pig who has failed at every single thing, humanity, being wealthy, being successful, being president, not being a lying racist shit, golf, the list would be endless if he’d actually been capable of anything a normal human being might have tried.

  31. 31.

    Aziz, light!

    November 29, 2022 at 4:15 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: I don’t disagree, but he still made some good points about Repub fealty to the MAGAt mob.

  32. 32.

    C Stars

    November 29, 2022 at 4:17 pm

    @Roger Moore: It’s not the bigotry, it’s the doing and saying bigoted things and then claiming not to be a bigot that I wonder about. Like, “Yes, we are courting the racist and neonazi voting bloc, but that’s not really us. We believe and accept all people and creeds.” It’s such a sniveling way to behave, and the press always seems to take these kinds of statements at face value. At least Ye was upfront about his antisemitism, I guess….

  33. 33.

    Matt McIrvin

    November 29, 2022 at 4:21 pm

    Calling bigotry “un-American” is, I think, fine: it’s an aspirational/normative statement of what we want to be American values, not a descriptive one.

    For a Republican to pretend he just noticed Trump is a bigot five minutes ago is, however, way too precious.

  34. 34.

    David 🦃The Establishment🥧 Koch

    November 29, 2022 at 4:22 pm

    @Old School: it’s not unusual for CNN to be caught with their pants down – just ask Jeffery Tobin

  35. 35.

    JML

    November 29, 2022 at 4:27 pm

    Honest version of Kemp: “I’m not up for election for 4 years, so I’ll pretend I don’t cater to bigotry at every turn. Lap it up NY Times!”

  36. 36.

    Hitchhiker

    November 29, 2022 at 4:28 pm

    Republicans happily voted for the king birther, a guy with five kids by three wives who paid to have  at least two girlfriends kept out of the news. He was always a thin-skinned, sneering thug, and they lived to watch him bully the press and mock Democrats.

    The moral majority.

    Sorry, assholes. We ain’t, as Clarence Thomas said, evolving.  There’s never going to be a day that you outlive this rot.

  37. 37.

    Manyakitty

    November 29, 2022 at 4:29 pm

    @Aziz, light!: I do appreciate his eloquent, vulgar outrage.

  38. 38.

    zhena gogolia

    November 29, 2022 at 4:34 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Calling bigotry “un-American” is, I think, fine: it’s an aspirational/normative statement of what we want to be American values, not a descriptive one.

    Right.

  39. 39.

    Ruckus

    November 29, 2022 at 4:36 pm

    @C Stars:

    “This isn’t who we are.” WHO ARE YOU, then?

    They are worse. That is who they are. The plot has changed and they have not. They hate. They hate that someone who doesn’t look like them is better than them. They hate that they can’t be better by using hate. They hate that their hate is no longer working like it used to in their parents, grandparents, hell, since the history of the first person to arrive here by boat, rather than being born here. The story is that THEY made a country out of it, but it already was one. They just hated it up. The world then was agrarian and land owners ruled but most couldn’t afford land unless they went elsewhere. This was a great place for an agrarian time. Land for the taking, as long as you didn’t mind theft, they didn’t. Land for the growing, as long as you didn’t mind hard work, they would rather have not as long as there was someone else to do it for almost nothing. Slavery wasn’t new but it was available as long as someone could be found, brought and bought. And countries with people that could be had been found. The cost of being a money grubber is cheap, as long as you sell your humanity. And that concept of humanity hasn’t changed in centuries. Yes it is at least attempting to be changed in most parts of the world, but not all.

  40. 40.

    Miss Bianca

    November 29, 2022 at 4:40 pm

    @Aziz, light!: hate that asshole myself, but it’s never not refreshing to my soul to see his gift for invective turned against the proper targets for a change.

  41. 41.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 29, 2022 at 4:44 pm

    @Miss Bianca: he has a way with words, no doubt, I just wish the “very particular set of skills” he likes to brag about were as effective as he seem/s/ed to think they were.

    MSNBC on in the background, jury’s back in the Oathkeepers (including Elmer Stewart Rhodes?) trial. Verdict will be announced soon (I guess?)

  42. 42.

    Roger Moore

    November 29, 2022 at 4:48 pm

    @C Stars:

    It’s not the bigotry, it’s the doing and saying bigoted things and then claiming not to be a bigot that I wonder about.

    This is precisely how all kinds of institutions deal with their bigots.  The point is that the country as a whole is full of bigots, so an institution of any size has been forced to deal with them.  A comparative handful have had a reckoning and take an actual zero tolerance policy toward outward expressions of bigotry.  Every other institution has made some kind of accommodation with its own bigots, which makes them inclined to accept other institutions making the same accommodations.

  43. 43.

    David 🦃The Establishment🥧 Koch

    November 29, 2022 at 4:51 pm

    These Lying Fucks

    nominated for rotating tagline

  44. 44.

    Marmot

    November 29, 2022 at 5:01 pm

    It’s not only not un-American, but racism is one of the foundational tenets of our society from the fucking initial constitution onward.

    People say it’s unAmerican in an effort to ostracize racists. I mean, duh. So what if it’s not historically accurate? So what? It’s fucking propaganda.

    What’s worse by far is morons holding up signs saying asinine things like “Racism is as American as apple pie!” And it drives me nuts that I have to explain why that’s stupid. Incredibly stupid.

    That shit straight-up endorses racism! Because your audience is not inside your fucking head with you! Or because your audience is a bunch of dipshits! Whichever! How can anyone not realize that

    ETA: I’d prefer everyone just said, “Yep, the Republicans are racists, example #9999. No WE don’t want a country like that.” WTF is so hard with that?

  45. 45.

    UncleEbeneezer

    November 29, 2022 at 5:01 pm

    Unanimous South Carolina Supreme Court decision ordering Meadows to testify tomorrow, finding his appeal “manifestly without merit.” Have you noticed these guys are always losing in court, where facts matter?

  46. 46.

    trollhattan

    November 29, 2022 at 5:05 pm

    Make your day better by watching video of the Mauna Loa eruption.

  47. 47.

    rikyrah

    November 29, 2022 at 5:08 pm

    Who the fuck do these guys think they are fooling? Why are they allowed to just spew this bullshit with no one in the media or elsewhere calling them out.

    First off, let’s deal with the fact that this is who Trump is and who he has been for the last fucking however long he has been on the national political scene. The motherfucker came flouncing down an escalator in the year of our lord 2015 and the first thing he did was cover the attending media and nation with racist bukkake. His entire presidency was a fucking display of white supremacist bullshit. It’s a little fucking rich that these guys are just now noticing it

     

    This this this.

    This is who he always was.

    Mexicans are rapists…remember?

    They knew all of this and STILL voted for him. He never spoke in Frank Luntz approved dogwhistles.

    Nope.

    They couldn’t hide behind that..which is why the MSM is desperate for a Youngkin, who did. Because, he did.

    So, they peddled the economic anxiety bullshyt.

     

    IT’S PHUCKING WHITE NATIONALISM.

    AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN PHUCKING WHITE NATIONALISM. 

     

    THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

    PERIOD. 

  48. 48.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 29, 2022 at 5:08 pm

    Waiting for confirmation but…

    Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney 32s

    SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY VERDICT RHODES: Guilt

    ETA: don’t really know these cases in detai

    Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney 26s

    MEGGS: Guilty HARRELSON: Not guilty WATKINS: Not guilty CALDWELL: Not guilty

  49. 49.

    UncleEbeneezer

    November 29, 2022 at 5:09 pm

    BREAKING: Oath Keeper founder Elmer Stewart RHODES is found GUILTY OF SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY.

    BREAKING: Oath Keeper Kelly MEGGS found guilty of seditious conspiracy.

  50. 50.

    terraformer

    November 29, 2022 at 5:10 pm

    It’s big press and media – people keep saying “they’re failing us”, but in fact, the people writing and publishing pieces on issues of the day are doing it in *exactly* the ways their various decision-makers want them to

    I mean, how many times do we write FTFNYT and rant about this or that inaccuracy before we recognize we need an entirely new model of how the ‘fourth estate’ is to be translated for the modern age

    but clearly, after 10+ years living in Citizen’s United land, where we don’t know who’s spending unlimited amounts – but per SCOTUS, that of course “does not give the impression of quid-pro-quo” so we don’t worry our pretty little heads – and not seeing with clear eyes how that certainly translates into big press and media capture, we need to do *something* different. IDK what that is, but it’s gotta be open and accountable at the least

  51. 51.

    UncleEbeneezer

    November 29, 2022 at 5:11 pm

    Thank you Merrick Garland/DOJ!!!

  52. 52.

    Omnes Omnibus

    November 29, 2022 at 5:11 pm

    Rhodes guilty.

  53. 53.

    HumboldtBlue

    November 29, 2022 at 5:12 pm

    Good news on top of that USA win.​ 

    I’m seeing he faces a minimum of 20 years, any legal eagles have the details?

  54. 54.

    Cameron

    November 29, 2022 at 5:17 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer: I wonder if Matt Gaetz’s closest acquaintances refer to him as MaGa?

  55. 55.

    Old School

    November 29, 2022 at 5:18 pm

    More:

    CONSPIRACY TO OBSTRUCT:

    RHODES: Not guilty

    MEGGS: Guilty

    WATKINS: Guilty

    HARRELSON

    CALDWELL: Not guilty

    OBSTRUCTION

    Rhodes: Guilty

    Meggs: Guilty

    Watkins: Guilty

    Harrelson: Guilty

    Caldwell: Guilty

    Edit: Seeing other reports that those should all be guilty.

  56. 56.

    UncleEbeneezer

    November 29, 2022 at 5:23 pm

    In much smaller (but far more personal) news:

    Man who attacked Planned Parenthood clinic in Pasadena to plead guilty

    “Chamberlin agreed to plead guilty to one count of being a felon in possession of a firearm and ammunition, a felony that carries a penalty of up to 10 years in federal prison, and one count of forcible interference with the obtaining and provision of reproductive health services, a misdemeanor punishable by up to one year in prison.”

    I have friends who work there, my wife got her Covid vaccine there and this guy used to live across the street from us.  Big Trump-supporter.  In the words of EF Goldman…

  57. 57.

    Cameron

    November 29, 2022 at 5:23 pm

    @David 🦃The Establishment🥧 Koch: Just to be the prissy asshole I am, it’s Tobin tax, Toobin whacks.

  58. 58.

    Ksmiami

    November 29, 2022 at 5:27 pm

    @Hitchhiker: wrt to a future of pandemics brought on by global warming- we may indeed outlive the bastards

  59. 59.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    November 29, 2022 at 5:34 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer: Only took a little over two days to convict. The presentation must have been overwhelming.

  60. 60.

    Miss Bianca

    November 29, 2022 at 5:38 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer: Holy shit

  61. 61.

    Captain C

    November 29, 2022 at 5:42 pm

    @Old School:

    CNN just ran a story about a trend of not wearing pants.

    Did they interview Baud?  If not, why the hell not?

  62. 62.

    Alison Rose

    November 29, 2022 at 5:43 pm

    Thank you, JC.

  63. 63.

    Roger Moore

    November 29, 2022 at 5:49 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer:

    I have friends who work there, my wife got her Covid vaccine there and this guy used to live across the street from us.

    I guess that explains why someone who lives in Ontario would drive to Pasadena to attack a Planned Parenthood office rather than targeting one closer to home.  I agree with the EFGoldman line.

  64. 64.

    Captain C

    November 29, 2022 at 5:51 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer:

    Unanimous South Carolina Supreme Court decision ordering Meadows to testify tomorrow, finding his appeal “manifestly without merit.” Have you noticed these guys are always losing in court, where facts matter?

    And where you can get severely busted for departing from them.

  65. 65.

    WaterGirl

    November 29, 2022 at 5:55 pm

    Post up about the Oath Keepers verdict.

  66. 66.

    Ruckus

    November 29, 2022 at 6:00 pm

    @Marmot:

    Many people including many bigots recognize that bigotry is bad. But the bigots don’t think it’s that bad, or they actually like being bigots. As an old fart I heard a lot of bigotry when I was younger. It is, like it or not, ingrained into our culture and lives. Yes it is losing it’s grip, but like all things in humanity it takes a long time to turn a culture around. It is happening, it will change more, it will take a lot longer than it should. I’d say a couple of full generations. That’s about 150 yrs and it won’t be complete even then, as long as we have things like faux news and rabid racists in political office, especially federal office.

  67. 67.

    Marmot

    November 29, 2022 at 6:19 pm

    @Ruckus: I don’t disagree with any of that. I think JC misunderstands why people say “that’s unAmerican”—they’re not aiming for historically accurate depiction. It’s pro-social propaganda.

  68. 68.

    Sherparick

    November 29, 2022 at 8:29 pm

    @J R in WV: The phrases he would have used about them “whitened sepulchres,” and goats, as he sort of unloads on them in Matthew, Chapter 23.

  69. 69.

    different-church-lady

    November 29, 2022 at 8:40 pm

    Who the fuck do these guys think they are fooling?

    They think they’re fooling everyone.
    And they’re half-right.

  70. 70.

    different-church-lady

    November 29, 2022 at 8:46 pm

    Oh, look, Mitch McConnell makes a funny!

    McConnell: Anyone meeting with antisemites is ‘unlikely to ever be elected president’

    Right. Despite the fact that the cretin in question already did?

  71. 71.

    redoubtagain

    November 29, 2022 at 9:41 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: He did it again this year.  (Remember, this is the no-water-for-people-in-line-to-vote state.)

  72. 72.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    November 29, 2022 at 9:46 pm

    I know I have told you about my husband ‘s death last month.  A neighbor today told me the Lord would give me strength; I told her it was not necessary if he had not died; and perhaps the Lord would have let him live,  She was taken aback and walked away.  Fuck them.

    .

  73. 73.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    November 29, 2022 at 10:26 pm

    @Cheryl from Maryland: I hadn’t seen that news. I’m very sorry for your loss

  74. 74.

    HeartlandLiberal

    November 30, 2022 at 7:17 am

    Historical footnote to the swimming pools filled with concrete.

    I grew up in the fifties in a little town north of Birmingham. We always in summer went into North Birmingham to swim in the pool in a municipal park.

    When the pools were ordered to be integrated in early sixties, Birmingham closed the pools down.

    In a fit of nostalgia, I went to Google maps for satellite imagery of the park, and I could find no trace of the pool.. not even a hint of the outline.

    It was filled in, and covered up by history of the racism that held back my hometown of Birmingham from being what Atlanta became, a hub of business and economic prosperity.

  75. 75.

    SW

    November 30, 2022 at 9:30 am

    I wish John could just learn to open up and share his feelings.

  76. 76.

    WaterGirl

    November 30, 2022 at 10:25 am

    @SW: No more mincing words! :-)

  77. 77.

    schrodingers_cat

    November 30, 2022 at 10:51 am

    @UncleEbeneezer: Have the Do-Somethingers apologized?

  78. 78.

    Betsy

    November 30, 2022 at 12:22 pm

    Honest to goodness.

    Thanks for that righteous rant  statement.  (I refuse to call a much-needed, simple declaration of plain truth a “rant”.)

  79. 79.

    Feckless

    November 30, 2022 at 1:34 pm

    Imagine a world where Kemp says something like that and an actual reporter, not a cut and paster, does a lexis search for every time a Republican said George Soros or global elites.

    And then ask for their full form birth certificate.

    And then punch them in their Nazi face.

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