Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

People are complicated. Love is not.

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

Black Jesus loves a paper trail.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

The republican caucus is already covering themselves with something, and it’s not glory.

The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

Republican obstruction dressed up as bipartisanship. Again.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

“But what about the lurkers?”

Today’s GOP: why go just far enough when too far is right there?

Republicans are the party of chaos and catastrophe.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

Second rate reporter says what?

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

A Senator Walker would be an insult to the state and the nation.

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Late Night Open Thread: Further Notes on ‘Oath Keeper’ Stewart Rhodes

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Except that ‘just following orders’ notoriously has a bad track record:

Nota bene: Mr. Nichols is being sarcastic here:

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  4. 4.

    opiejeanne

    It’s been snowing since 9 this morning, and our power is out now. Not sure if it’s because of wind or the snow.  That means that our heater isn’t working now, but we have the cats to keep us warm in bed tonight.

    My computer has a really good battery and I’m using my phone as a hotspot, but that may not last. if the phones go down too.

  7. 7.

    Ruckus

    @Danielx:

    I wonder what happened to his intelligence between getting into Yale and becoming politically insane? Was he snacking on rat poison? Ramming his head into a wall at a full bore run – repeatedly? Or is he just so far conservative that he thinks the only way to be is criminal?

    Oh and BTW, I stayed on twit to see how it would go and I think someone was throwing shovels full on the grave today. I still check my account although I’m down to once a day now and my feed was chock full of ads and commercial posts, which have never shown up on my feed prior. Never, ever. And they were minor ads, nothing that I saw seemed national. I wonder if elon is selling ad space at a very low price, trying to get back as much of the $44 billion he threw into that now utter waste of electrons?

  8. 8.

    sab

    @steve g: God I am a luddite. Wanted to give you a thumbs up emoji, but beyond my technical skills.

    My flip phone needed to be replaced. Election season wore out the clear button. New phone came in the mail. Neither I nor the Verizon technical puppies could figure out how to transfer my contacts to the new phone. I think I need to switch to Consumer Cellular because Verizon customer service just does not cut it for the olds

    ETA Major only reason I am with Verizon is we all have the talk to your Verizon relatives free. I just realized I don’t actually like most of my relatives and would prefer not to talk to most of them ever again.

    EtA Why is this in a quote box?

  9. 9.

    Calouste

    @Ruckus: Since when does getting into an Ivy League school (or Oxbridge) gives you immunity against going politically insane? Cruz, Jindal, DeSantis, Cotton, Hawley, etc., etc., etc. The list is very long.

  10. 10.

    Ruckus

    @Calouste:

    Never. It’s just still amazing to see someone so massively waste the time and energy to actually attend college and learn absolute shit.

    IOW I didn’t know there are actual class about learning to be an absolute disaster of stupidly insane crap. What do they call that degree, Dumbshit al Mode?

  12. 12.

    sab

    My college, a fine institution in the midwest, did teach us to think. My education was excellent. Snear all you want at colleges. Mine was first rate.

  13. 13.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Ruckus: He just has to keep going till January, when the new Congress under the disciplined hand of Kevin whatsis passes laws ordering Apple and other big advertisers to spend all their advertising budgets on Twitter. For Freedom.

  14. 14.

    David 🦃The Establishment🥧 Koch

    I wonder who’s financing these aholes. It’s not as if they have real jobs.

  15. 15.

    different-church-lady

    It’s getting to the point where you can’t even try to violently overthrow the government without  being convicted of trying to violently overthrow the government.

  17. 17.

    Matt McIrvin

    Rhodes’ argument may have been aimed at getting pardoned or commuted by Trump if he ever becomes President again.

  18. 18.

    Anne Laurie

    @David 🦃The Establishment🥧 Koch: I wonder who’s financing these aholes. It’s not as if they have real jobs.

    Other a-holes, mostly.  ‘Donations’ from fellow OafKreepers, or quiet back-alley subsidies from kleptocrats who don’t want their personal resumes spoiled.

    Rhodes’ wife supported him for many years, IIRC, even working at a strip club while he ‘studied the political system’.   Once she finally broke free of that relationship, he started (upscaled) begging for money from sympathetic second-amendment, sovereign-citizen marks.   There are strong suspicions that he worked his ‘Oath Keeper’ persona to start collecting from professional mischief-makers, but of course there would be such rumors even if you assume that the Mercers / Peter Thiel / Putin wouldn’t bother paying for an influencer whose help they could get for nothing.

    It’s not a dignified lifestyle, but it can be quite profitable.  Look at the Ron Paul foundation, now well into its second generation… or even the LaRouche gang.

  20. 20.

    piratedan

    @Anne Laurie: there’s a huge dark money infrastructure out there with the Leonard Leo types, to Vladdy Baby and all of those Petrocrats looking to undermine Democracy.  I would imagine that for loons like the Oath Keepers, that they serve as viable shock troops for a number of causes if they all serve the same ultimate purpose, which is someone else makes the rules instead of all of us make the rules.  I imagine that Citizens United happened for a reason and one of the main ones is to hide the depth of all of these financial resources and how there’s a LOT of folks who have a beachhead established against anti-Democratic institutions…

    In a way, I imagine TFG as a right wing Cyrus from the Warriors…. we have the Christian Nationalists standing toe to toe with the anti-abortionists, who are right next to the Q Nuts, who are blithely ignoring the Chinese, Iranians and Russians, while they may all hate or even loathe each other, they’ve embraced common cause against Democracy… all they have to do is take over one part of the Government at a time, secure their turf because in their mind, its all THEIR turf.

  22. 22.

    Amir Khalid

    @Ruckus:

    I suspect that quite a few high-profile ad buyers have curtailed their ad spend at Twitter, and if Elon complains about it they will happily tell him to go fuck himself.

  24. 24.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Ruckus: ​
     

    It’s just still amazing to see someone so massively waste the time and energy to actually attend college and learn absolute shit.

    Rhodes got a degree from Yale Law School. Plenty of dummies with rich alum parents get into Harvard, Yale, etc. as undergrads. And from all I’ve heard, once you’re in, it’s hard not to come out with a Bachelor’s degree.

    Family connections may still help someone get into Yale Law, but more on the level of being one of the people whose undergrad records were strong enough to get in who got in, rather than one of those whose records were strong enough but there wasn’t room for. And then of course law school requires real work; you can’t just coast for three years and come out with a J.D. degree.

    So going this far into Crazy-Land is a much more impressive achievement than it would have been for someone who merely got an Ivy undergrad degree.

  25. 25.

    Kay

    @lowtechcyclist:

    The law degree hurt him. He presented himself as a constitutional scholar and said he had urged Trump to invoke the insurrection act. He basically confessed to insurrection.

    Too “smart” to keep his mouth shut. There’s a lot of people like that.

  26. 26.

    Elizabelle

    And so begins the re-education of Stewart Rhodes.  It will be even more expensive than his first go round.  The campus grounds are not going to be as accommodating.

    Helps a lot that the insurrection took place here, quite honestly, given the jury pool you will draw.  Not whack jobs, and a lot of well educated people who can function in an urban setting.  A lot of people with common sense and a sense of civic duty , too.

    Would suspect jury nullification or a usurping renegade juror could be a real issue elsewhere, in the red state backwaters.

    Of course, these weasels are taking their crusade to the blue states.  So:  learn up, weasels.

  28. 28.

    Denali

    It is such a relief to see justice brought to these traitors. The press has not given this trial the attention it deserves. Americans need to know about it.

  29. 29.

    Chacal Charles Calthrop

    @lowtechcyclist: Yale law school has no grades, though – it’s just pass fail. That’s because it’s the explicit non-Harvard & the non- Columbia, and needs something to make a good student prefer to live in New Haven. They get away with it because the school is less than half the size of Columbia & they attract mostly wanna be academics, who will study anyhow.
    the problem with a student like this loser, though, is that he’s crazy. An indulgent administration would coddle him & that got him through, only to create an unemployable graduate who couldn’t hack it as a lawyer – which is apparently exactly what happened. Then he discovered wingnut welfare, and the rest is history.
    the irony is that he’ll probably be at his best in prison – a crack pot jailhouse lawyer who will spend his sentence filing creative bullshit appeals for all his fellow inmates.

  31. 31.

    artem1s

    a bit OT – but election denying related – GQPer insanity is at work in Cochise County AZ. Very red county has refused to certify its 2022 election count. I think it’s just more election misinformation BS. But the results could help the R-AG candidate win their race. But would mean the Dem candidate for the House seat in the district would win. There are 47K (mostly R) voters that Republicans are tying to disenfranchise while Democrats are suing to have their votes counted. But both sides dontchaknow.

    https://www.12news.com/article/news/politics/elections/decision/think-arizonas-elections-are-over-not-so-fast-heres-why-mondays-big-day/75-fa130866-e3d0-42ea-98ea-0ff305eb428a

  32. 32.

    Elizabelle

    @Chacal Charles Calthrop:

    the irony is that he’ll probably be at his best in prison – a crack pot jailhouse lawyer who will spend his sentence filing creative bullshit appeals for all his fellow inmates.

    OMG, that’s a good point.  LOL.

  34. 34.

    opiejeanne

    @sab: Hillary and Bill went to Yale. My niece got a full ride to Yale, and she is none of the things you attributed to the Ivies. Let’s not be smearing people with generalizations like that.

  35. 35.

    StringOnAStick

    @sab: We have Consumer Cellular and we like it.  We are having to get new Simm cards because our iPhones as currently set up won’t work in Canada and we will be there for a ski trip starting new week, but it was easy to deal with that and we’ll have them tomorrow.

  36. 36.

    Dadadadadadada

    @Amir Khalid: I don’t expect that. The insurrectionists were useful idiots whose usefulness is all used up, and therefore TFG will not give a damn about them.

    It’s also extremely unlikely that TFG will ever be president again, so this is likely a moot point.

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