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You are here: Home / Sports / Wednesday Afternoon World Cup Open Thread: Poland vs Argentina / Saudi Arabia vs Mexico

Wednesday Afternoon World Cup Open Thread: Poland vs Argentina / Saudi Arabia vs Mexico

by Anne Laurie|  November 30, 202212:45 pm| 30 Comments

This post is in: Sports, World Cup

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“We urge the state of Qatar and all Qataris to fully realize the emir’s message here and that is to truly recognize and welcome everyone to the World Cup,” @PressSec Karine Jean-Pierre says. “We are concerned over the potential treatment of LGBTQ plus spectators and athletes.” https://t.co/zTP9BOgTI1

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) November 28, 2022

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Poland vs Argentina

Later today: Poland vs Argentina. pic.twitter.com/UXkokY21GR

— Barça Universal (@BarcaUniversal) November 30, 2022


Argentina vs Poland match’s possible result’s consequences for Argentina:

▪️Argentina W: Top of the group (most probably)

▪️Argentina D: 2nd (Mexico must win under 4 goals or draw against Saudi)

▪️Argentina L: Argentina OUT.

One Last Dance. #VamosArgentina 🇦🇷 pic.twitter.com/zptwfIWGqT

— 𝗔𝗠𝟬𝟰 𓃵 (@AM04_FOOTBALL) November 30, 2022

SportsMole:

Argentina will be looking to leapfrog Poland to the top of Group C and qualify for the last 16 of the 2022 World Cup when they do battle at Stadium 974 on Wednesday.

The two-time world champions currently sit level on three points with Saudi Arabia, just one point behind Poland at the summit heading into their final group fixture…

Poland’s strengths at the back have been evident in Qatar, as they are one of only two nations who are yet to concede a goal after their first two group matches at the time of writing. Indeed, the Eagles have now kept a clean sheet in each of their last four internationals.

However, keeping Argentina quiet could prove challenging for Poland, as they have conceded in each of their 11 previous meetings with the two-time world champions. Their last encounter against La Albiceleste was successful, though, as they secured a 2-1 friendly win back in 2011.

Victory for Poland on Wednesday would secure top spot in Group C and guarantee their place in the last 16, while a draw could also be enough to finish at the summit if Saudi Arabia fail to beat Mexico. However, defeat will end their World Cup journey if Saudi Arabia claim maximum points…

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Saudi Arabia vs Mexico

Poland to draw Argentina and Saudi Arabia to win vs Mexico pic.twitter.com/r1BqZuofS9

— Amit Zohar (@amitttrmfc) November 26, 2022

SportsMole:

The race to qualify from World Cup 2022 Group C is set to go right down to the wire, as Saudi Arabia and Mexico prepare to face off in Wednesday’s clash at the Lusail Iconic Stadium.

With at least one of Argentina and Poland set to drop points in their top-two battle, all four sides are still in with a shot of progressing to the last-16 stage.

From the highs of defeating tournament favourites Argentina to the lows of a 2-0 loss to Poland, Herve Renard’s Saudi Arabia were brought crashing back down to earth at the weekend and missed the opportunity to seal a historic knockout place.

An inspired performance from Wojciech Szczesny helped get Poland over the line, with the Juventus man saving from Salem Al-Dawsari’s penalty either side of goals from Piotr Zielinski and Robert Lewandowski, the latter’s first at the World Cup at the age of 34…

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  1. 1.

    phdesmond

    November 30, 2022 at 2:52 pm

    Half-time: Poland 0-0 Argentina.
    Poland is not very exciting.

  2. 2.

    Alison Rose

    November 30, 2022 at 2:53 pm

    Two more scoreless first halves, LOL.

  3. 3.

    Alison Rose

    November 30, 2022 at 3:07 pm

    Feels weird to ever root for Saudi Arabia in anything, but come on, I wanna see Mexico lose :P

  4. 4.

    phdesmond

    November 30, 2022 at 3:07 pm

    GOAL! Poland 0-1 Argentina (Mac Allister 46).

  5. 5.

    Alison Rose

    November 30, 2022 at 3:11 pm

    well poo

  6. 6.

    Alison Rose

    November 30, 2022 at 3:15 pm

    POO AGAIN. But happy about Argentina, I need them to win so my whole bracket doesn’t go down the fucking tubes

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    Kent

    November 30, 2022 at 3:15 pm

    Mexico just scored too.  It will be Argentina and Mexico advancing if this holds up (I think).

    I don’t dislike Poland, but I generally root against Euro teams when playing the rest of the world because there are just too damn many Euro teams out there.  Unless they are playing some egregious horror of country like Saudi Arabia or Iran.

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    Barbara

    November 30, 2022 at 3:20 pm

    @Kent: It might depend on the over/under for the goals.  I think if Mexico wins and Poland loses, they will both have 4 points. Mexico needs to win by a lot in order to overcome Poland on net goals relative other teams.

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    Kent

    November 30, 2022 at 3:26 pm

    @Barbara: Mexico just scored again.  According to the real time standings on Google, Poland has a +1 goal differential and Mexico’s is zero.  So if either Mexico or Argentina score again they will be tied on goal differential.  I don’t know what the next tie breaker is after that.  I think goals scored.  As of right now they both have 2 goals scored so if Mexico scores again they will be head on goals scored.  If Argentina scores again then I think they will be tied for the first 3 tie breakers.  The 4th and 5th tie breakers are head to head competition but they tied 0-0 so all the head to head stuff will leave them tied to the 7th tie breaker which is drawing lots.

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    Kent

    November 30, 2022 at 3:28 pm

    That long distance free kick goal by Mexico was impressive.  Both of their goals have come on set piece, a corner and a very long distance free kick that must have been 30 yards at least.

    I was watching Argentina but now I’ve switched over to Mexico.

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    phdesmond

    November 30, 2022 at 3:31 pm

    @phdesmond:
    GOAL! Poland 0-2 Argentina (Alvarez 67).

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    Alison Rose

    November 30, 2022 at 3:34 pm

    @Kent: After GD, it goes to total goals scored. Not sure what the next tier would be.

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    Kent

    November 30, 2022 at 3:34 pm

    @phdesmond: If this results hold up then by my calculation Mexico and Poland are tied down to the 6th tiebreaker which means the would draw lots to determine who advances.

    Right now they are tied on points (4), goal differential (0), goals scored (2), and on all the head to head metrics since that game ended 0-0.

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    JML

    November 30, 2022 at 3:37 pm

    @Alison Rose: Fair Play points are in the tie-breaker mix (accumulated cards)

    Oh, Poland. (I’ve gotten 642 texts from a polish friend today…)

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    Kent

    November 30, 2022 at 3:40 pm

    @Alison Rose:

     Total Points
    Goal differential
    Total goals
    Points in head-to-head competition
    Goal differential in head-to-head competition
    total goals in head to head competition
    Fair play system (fewest number of yellow and red cards)
    If still tied they draw lots.

    Right now it looks like the are tied through #6 if these two results hold up.

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    Mike E

    November 30, 2022 at 3:48 pm

    SA (& their quite good keeper) are doing everything they can to deny Mexico a 3rd goal and passage into the rd of 16.

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    Alison Rose

    November 30, 2022 at 3:56 pm

    Well on screen it keeps saying Poland would move on, so…

  18. 18.

    phdesmond

    November 30, 2022 at 3:57 pm

    Full-time: Poland 0-2 Argentina.

  19. 19.

    Alison Rose

    November 30, 2022 at 3:57 pm

    Oop. Saudi Arabia says nuh-uh.

  20. 20.

    Scout211

    November 30, 2022 at 3:58 pm

    KSA 1 – MEX 2

  21. 21.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    November 30, 2022 at 3:58 pm

    Goal by Saudi Arabia at 90+6 appears to settle the matter.

  22. 22.

    Alison Rose

    November 30, 2022 at 4:00 pm

    Adios!

  23. 23.

    JML

    November 30, 2022 at 4:00 pm

    Unbelievable late goal by SA. Basically their only attack in the second half and they get a nifty little goal in the 95th minute, crushing Mexican hopes.

  24. 24.

    Alison Rose

    November 30, 2022 at 4:05 pm

    Last time Mexico went out at the group stage was 1978.

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    Kent

    November 30, 2022 at 4:10 pm

    @JML: They would have still gone out absent another goal by Mexico or another goal by Argentina because I think Mexico had more yellow cards than Poland.

  26. 26.

    Alison Rose

    November 30, 2022 at 4:13 pm

    @Kent:

    I think Mexico had more yellow cards than Poland

    Would not surprise me in the least.

  27. 27.

    Alison Rose

    November 30, 2022 at 4:20 pm

    Dang, so if we manage to beat the Netherlands, our quarterfinal opponent would probably be Argentina, barring a massive upset by Australia. Honestly, though, if we make it to that far again, I’d die happy even if we get our asses kicked.

  28. 28.

    Paul in KY

    November 30, 2022 at 4:36 pm

    Maybe Chicharito might have helped Mexico a bit…

  29. 29.

    JML

    November 30, 2022 at 5:15 pm

    @Kent: They did, but once they gave up the goal even another score wouldn’t have helped.

    I guess it’s better to go out on goal-differential than fair play points? the idiots suggesting that xga (expected goals) by the 7th tie-breaker have lost their minds, though. a) how often does it get to the 7th tie-breaker, and b) how can you have it go on a stat that isn’t officially recorded in the game?

  30. 30.

    Kent

    November 30, 2022 at 5:40 pm

    @Alison Rose:Dang, so if we manage to beat the Netherlands, our quarterfinal opponent would probably be Argentina, barring a massive upset by Australia. Honestly, though, if we make it to that far again, I’d die happy even if we get our asses kicked.

    You can’t expect to have an easy match if you qualify as #2 from your group.  That means you will meet a #1 in the first round.  In fact there are no easy matches from the quarterfinals onwards.  By definition you are down to the final 8 at that point.  Just be thankful it isn’t Brazil.  I guess Argentina is currently ranked #3 in the world behind Brazil and Belgium.  But I don’t think they are necessarily a harder matchup than say Germany or France or Spain or a rematch against England.

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