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by John Cole|  December 7, 20229:42 pm| 74 Comments

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Have some Steve.

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  1. 1.

    TxTiger

    December 7, 2022 at 9:45 pm

    Thinking of you, Cole <3

  2. 2.

    Nancy

    December 7, 2022 at 9:46 pm

    I hope Steve and those who care about you can bring you some comfort. You seem like a good guy to me and still not ugly

  3. 3.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 7, 2022 at 9:50 pm

    John, I’ve been thinking almost constantly about Tammy, and you, and her husband and parents, and your family, and everyone who knew and loved her. An almost uncountable number of people. Hearts-love to you, light and grace to Tammy’s spirit.

    Steve is one magnificent bastard. I hope he can bring you some comfort.

  4. 4.

    Nicole

    December 7, 2022 at 9:58 pm

    Thanks, John.  Like lots of the other Jackals, I’ve been thinking of you and Tammy and her husband and mom.  And about Lily, too.  I’m so sorry; what a horrible, horrible couple of months.

    Some Steve is much appreciated right now.

  5. 5.

    Msilaneous

    December 7, 2022 at 9:58 pm

    Glad you checked in. Thanks.

  6. 6.

    Chrisanthemama

    December 7, 2022 at 9:59 pm

    As long as Steve forgets the annual shave, you’ll be OK.

  7. 7.

    Joy in FL

    December 7, 2022 at 9:59 pm

    Steve is exactly what is needed.

  8. 8.

    RedDirtGirl

    December 7, 2022 at 10:01 pm

    Thinking of you. Can’t imagine the loss you are feeling.

  9. 9.

    Lyrebird

    December 7, 2022 at 10:03 pm

    Yes, beautiful and perfect photo.

    I only just caught up with this awful news.

    JC, you are a good man, and there are not any words that will do to talk about how huge a loss this must be.

    I am so glad you had such a great friend, and this just galactically sucks.

  10. 10.

    karen marie

    December 7, 2022 at 10:04 pm

    I’ve found life gets smaller as I age. Everything but Steve and my waist.

    Tonight I made avgolemeno soup for dinner. It’s impossible to find a recipe that doesn’t make enough to feed an army. I cobbled together a good recipe for two servings, and it’s pretty tasty!

    One site suggested making the avgolemeno in a blender, taking the guesswork out of tempering the egg. You drop the egg in the blender with the lemon juice, put the lid on, start the blender, then slooooowly pour in very hot chicken broth. It works really well. It’s a bit frothy as you dump it into the rice but settles down with a couple minutes stirring.

    Mangia, or whatever the Greek equivalent.

    I only wish I’d had the energy to make some quick pita but since I have enough for two meals, maybe tomorrow with round two.

    This is a terrible time, John Cole, but I hope you can feel the love for you radiating out of the comment threads. I’m sure I am not alone in wishing I had a magic wand to lend you.

  11. 11.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    December 7, 2022 at 10:05 pm

    Making Christmas dinner decisions now. We are going to Exuma on Sunday, will be back on 12/18 so we need to plan big meat purchases now.

    I’m thinking standing rib roast. We are probably feeding 8 total, including three men in their early thirties (and me, who can be a bit of a hog on beef). I have a brisket in the freezer, but that doesn’t feel like Christmas, and I trashed my right quad back in 2020 smoking one. Given that both me and the lovely lady have some digestive issues with home smoked meat anymore, I’m not eager to smoke it and don’t see an oven or roaster made brisket as being festive.

    I’m thinking at least three ribs, maybe 4. What do you guys think? I’m also thinking simplicity on sides – a nice mash, a salad and roasted brussel sprouts.

    The little snots can bring dessert. We made fruitcake already.

  12. 12.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    December 7, 2022 at 10:14 pm

    Hope things start getting better for you soon, Cole

  13. 13.

    Ohio Mom

    December 7, 2022 at 10:17 pm

    Good to see you, Cole. Like lots of others, thought of you and Brian a lot today.

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: For Christmas dinner, we will be observing our religious tradition’s ancient custom, going out for Chinese.

  14. 14.

    jonas

    December 7, 2022 at 10:19 pm

    Steve looks like he’s sending you the “it’ll be alright — just pet me” vibes you need right now. Good kitty. Or floof-panther. Or whatever Steve is.

  15. 15.

    Ohio Mom

    December 7, 2022 at 10:21 pm

    Just saw this somewhere on Twitter:

    Pinned Tweet

    Maggie Astor

    @MaggieAstor
    ·
    9h
    Barring a breakthrough,
    @nytimes
    staff will walk out from midnight to 11:59pm Thursday, Dec. 8.

    We’re asking readers to stand with us on the digital picket line and not visit any NYT platforms tomorrow. Read local news. Make something from a cookbook. Break your Wordle streak.
    Quote Tweet

    NYTimesGuild

    No Wordle? No Spelling Bee? No crossword? Tomorrow will be a challenge.

  16. 16.

    opiejeanne

    December 7, 2022 at 10:31 pm

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg:

    Standing rib is our traditional Christmas Eve dinner and has been for years.  It just seems right, since we rarely have it the rest of the year and it’s fairly easy to pull off.  Yorkshire pudding, mashed potatoes, roasted Brussels sprouts.

    I have a wonderful recipe for baked stuffed salmon, but if I’m going to take out a lien on my house for a sullen chunk of protein* I’d rather it be the Roast Beast.

     

    *as Peg Bracken named it

  17. 17.

    Gin & Tonic

    December 7, 2022 at 10:33 pm

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: I’m stuck trying to figure out how you injure a quad smoking a brisket.

  18. 18.

    Steeplejack

    December 7, 2022 at 10:37 pm

    A serving of Steve is always good!

    I’m jazzed because I got the doughty Kia back from her annual maintenance spa day, and she’s running like a top. Had to stay overnight so they could replace the bearings in the left front wheel, but I was anticipating that from recent noise/​vibration. Now I want to take a road trip more than ever.

    I have driven only 2,783 miles since November 29, 2021—about 230 miles a month. That may be a career low, although I can’t find the mileage number that would tell me about 2020-21, the plague year. I probably drove more that year, though, because for six months I was driving my Trader Joe’s friend to and from work every day when the Metro buses and trains were on greatly reduced schedules.

  19. 19.

    rikyrah

    December 7, 2022 at 10:41 pm

    Thinking about you, Cole. And Tammy’s husband.🙏🏿🙏🏿 for you both😢

  20. 20.

    eclare

    December 7, 2022 at 10:54 pm

    Like others here, I have been thinking of you and everyone who loves and misses Tammy.  Let your critters comfort you.

    For Christmas, I’ll be getting together Christmas Eve with relatives for a church service (I can fake it for an hour) and then deli food.  On Christmas Day, we’ll go to my cousin’s for lunch, probably turkey or ham with traditional sides.  The one strange food tradition is that we will also have heaps of cold boiled shrimp with cocktail sauce.  A huge bowl, lots of ice, shrimp chillin’ on top.  Luckily I happen to like shrimp!

  21. 21.

    Madeleine

    December 7, 2022 at 10:54 pm

    Thanks for coming by with Steve, John. I hope he and Thurston are providing comfort. Also that Brian  and Tammy’s dogs find comfort with each other.

  22. 22.

    karen marie

    December 7, 2022 at 11:01 pm

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: Two words: creamed spinach. It’s so easy and crazy good. Secret ingredient: nutmeg.

    I have no clue on the number of ribs but if there’s no Yorkshire pudding it won’t matter.

  23. 23.

    laura

    December 7, 2022 at 11:02 pm

    Deep friendships forged over time with the joy tempering the sorrows is one of the most rare and valuable gifts this life has to offer. https://youtu.be/syIUmrSJWAU

  24. 24.

    Alison Rose

    December 7, 2022 at 11:04 pm

    I hope the pets are helping you get through these moments, JC.

  25. 25.

    Steeplejack

    December 7, 2022 at 11:05 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    Tomorrow’s crossword is already up. And I might misread the time and do the Wordle at 12:01 tonight. But then I swear I’m off!

  26. 26.

    eclare

    December 7, 2022 at 11:07 pm

    @karen marie:   Nutmeg and black pepper is a great spice combo for a lot of foods!

  27. 27.

    JAFD

    December 7, 2022 at 11:08 pm

    You’re in our thoughts, Mr. Cole. Remember to take care of yourself.

  28. 28.

    stinger

    December 7, 2022 at 11:18 pm

    Was thinking of you all day, John.

  29. 29.

    Quiltingfool

    December 7, 2022 at 11:23 pm

    @Ohio Mom: Chinese dinner?  Yes, please!

  30. 30.

    Quiltingfool

    December 7, 2022 at 11:26 pm

    @eclare: If Christmas dinner were up to me (and it is NOT, damn it), I’d forego ham, turkey, etc. for the boiled shrimp and cocktail sauce.
    Throw in a couple of peach margaritas made with top shelf tequila and my Christmas would be most jolly!

  31. 31.

    Quiltingfool

    December 7, 2022 at 11:30 pm

    John, thank you for the Steve photo.  I’ve worried about you all day, which doesn’t help you a bit.  Blessings be upon you, brother.

  32. 32.

    eclare

    December 7, 2022 at 11:35 pm

    @Quiltingfool:   Peach margaritas…yum!  We won’t have those, but I will eat extra shrimp just for you.  Seriously the big bowl stays out all afternoon.

  33. 33.

    Hilfy

    December 7, 2022 at 11:38 pm

    Steve seems to be chameleon-like, his fur blending into that cat bed.  We’ve gotten our first ever round long furred cat bed like Steve’s, for the premier cat in the household, Lucky. There are so many soft chairs and sofa cushions here, I never thought they’d need anything else.  Then Lucky started to nest in a very private corner of a closet, with nothing to snuggle in. So I got a nice official cat bed for her.

    Amazon packed the bed in an oxygen-free pouch.  It took a long time to free it so I just dropped it by my chair.  Lucky immediately jumped into the bed, sitting carefully upright while she thought about this new thing in her living room.  Then she snuggled into a circle and went to sleep…she’s scarcely been out of the bed since!

    The closet corner sits unoccupied.  Maybe I should  get another cat?

    What has happened to that small panther, Maxwell, whom you were going to get?

  34. 34.

    John Cole

    December 7, 2022 at 11:42 pm

    @Quiltingfool:  I am doing fine and I will recover. I have lost a lot of friends- some to OD, some to suicide, etc. I have never lost someone like Tammy, but I know how to keep myself sane and centered and that I need to keep on living and doing and eating and showering and sleeping and just being me. The hardest parts come in waves, triggered by a “Ohh Tammy would like that” and then realizing she is dead. Or trying to instinctively call her. Or the dozen times today I thought “wonder what Tammy is doing haven’t heard from her yet today.” And then I get sad and realize that she is just gone forever and I will never see her again. And I cry. And that is ok and good.

    But there is a lot more important stuff to deal with than that. Her husband is gutted and in a dark place, her mother is distraught. They should be the focus and they will be.

    I will always have her and she will always be with me, and i have that, but I can’t worry about the dead, I have to deal with the living. I can’t sit around and what if or maybes. I have to deal with the people who are in pieces and need to somehow be put back together again.

    Grief is necessary and natural but it is not productive and when I think about Tammy I don’t want to be sad. She made every minute I knew her better and in a while the memories of my time with her will do the same. That will take time, and I will work through it, but there are more urgent and pressing matters- my friend and her husband, Brian. Her mother. That is what is most important now.

  35. 35.

    El Muneco

    December 7, 2022 at 11:43 pm

    @Ohio Mom: Oh please, oh please let the editorial and opinion desks join them in solidarity.

  36. 36.

    TaMara

    December 7, 2022 at 11:45 pm

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: I’m thinking four ribs. Nothing wrong with leftovers. And I have a great recipe (well, not me, Michael Symon) if you need it.

    I always do lasagna for Christmas Eve (I’d love to play with more recipes, but my guests always say lasagna when I ask) and standing rib for Christmas Day. An embarrassment of food, but then I don’t cook again until, I don’t know, sometime in January, LOL.

    This year, having discovered I love making Toffee, that’s going to be my gift bag this holiday. Maybe some fun-looking extra large chocolate chip cookies with M&Ms on top. See how festive I feel.

  37. 37.

    Dan B

    December 7, 2022 at 11:45 pm

    Cole;  You know Tammy would want you to find peace and happiness, as do we.

  38. 38.

    CaseyL

    December 7, 2022 at 11:46 pm

    Thanks for dropping by, John.  Like everyone else, I’ve been thinking and worrying about you.  Having Steve and Thurston around is an excellent thing: our companion critters won’t let us disappear into ourselves for very long.

    No plans for Christmas at present.  I may keep with the tradition of my people and go out for Chinese food.

  39. 39.

    TaMara

    December 7, 2022 at 11:48 pm

    @John Cole: Great, now I’m crying again.

    This is a wonderful and necessary expression of love and grief…thanks for sharing it with us.

  40. 40.

    LiminalOwl

    December 7, 2022 at 11:49 pm

    John, I’m so sorry for your loss.

  41. 41.

    SFAW

    December 7, 2022 at 11:50 pm

    @John Cole: ​
     
    John –
    I know exactly what you mean in your first paragraph, re: Tammy’s absence. Unfortunately, I still haven’t been able to progress to the next phase you describe, except in very small amounts.
    My heart goes out to you and Brian.

  42. 42.

    Poptartacus

    December 7, 2022 at 11:55 pm

    Fluff monster

  43. 43.

    KrackenJack

    December 8, 2022 at 12:01 am

    @TaMara: I have an almond chocolate buttercrunch toffee recipe from David Lebovitz that is like crack. Once you get the technique down, it’s too damn easy to make. It was time for an intervention when my friends realized I had a dedicated pan for making it.

  44. 44.

    RaflW

    December 8, 2022 at 12:09 am

    @John Cole: Wow. You are a mench. And do keep up the self care and pet scritching and stuff. We do care about you.

  45. 45.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2022 at 12:11 am

    @opiejeanne: Roast Beast! 🥰

    🎶You’re a rotter, opiejeanne!🎶

  46. 46.

    danielx

    December 8, 2022 at 12:12 am

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: ​
     There is an alternative: Paul Prudhomme’s Cajun Pork Roast.

  47. 47.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2022 at 12:13 am

    @Quiltingfool:

    @Ohio Mom: Beef and peapods my bones!

  48. 48.

    RaflW

    December 8, 2022 at 12:14 am

    Oh, and my partner and I signed our wills today, and set up a revocable trust since we’re the renegade, not-marrying kind. But at 54 & 57 we should not be intestate rebels, that just spells misery if something shocking happens. I thought about Tammy during the meeting, even though I’ve never met her (or you, John).

  49. 49.

    Steeplejack

    December 8, 2022 at 12:16 am

    @Hilfy:

    Would Lucky like the cat bed placed in the corner of the closet? Comfort and privacy!

  50. 50.

    NotMax

    December 8, 2022 at 12:17 am

    @TaMara

    Chef John’s take on Symon’s method as close to foolproof as prime rib roast can get.

  51. 51.

    cain

    December 8, 2022 at 12:18 am

    @John Cole: well said – looks like Tammy’s husband is the one who needs the help as well as her mother.

    Thank you for being you. Best.

  52. 52.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2022 at 12:23 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I’m stuck trying to figure out how you injure a quad smoking a brisket. 

    Shall we make up crazier and crazier scenarios?

  53. 53.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2022 at 12:26 am

    @NotMax: You mean “Chef John from FoooooodWishes.com!”

  54. 54.

    Steeplejack

    December 8, 2022 at 12:32 am

    @NotMax:

    I used Chef John’s prime rib method at Thanksgiving a few years ago, and it turned out great.

  55. 55.

    Hilfy

    December 8, 2022 at 12:44 am

    @Steeplejack: Good suggestion, she might.  But she looks so cute snuggled down beside my living room chair. Getting another cat bed would be easier than getting another cat.

    I wrote those paragraphs hoping to be amusing for John Cole.

  56. 56.

    prostratedragon

    December 8, 2022 at 12:51 am

    @Gin & Tonic: ​ As a colleague of my mother used to say, you’re never the only one.

  57. 57.

    Poe Larity

    December 8, 2022 at 12:56 am

    Steve, The Dude, Abides.

  58. 58.

    Steeplejack

    December 8, 2022 at 12:57 am

    @Hilfy:

    Yeah, get her another bed for the closet. She can retire there when you’re not in your living-room chair.

  59. 59.

    BenCisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️

    December 8, 2022 at 1:45 am

    @John Cole: Thanks for checking in, John. Sounds like you have a handle on things. Pulling for you brother. 

  60. 60.

    NotoriousJRT

    December 8, 2022 at 1:49 am

    Dear John Cole, I have been off the grid and missed the post about Tammy.  I know these words won’t ease your loss and pain-no matter how much I sincerely wish they could.  You are a true  human being and Tammy knew you were her forever friend. You gave each other that precious gift.  I am so sorry she is gone.  I am wishing you and the many people who cared for and loved her deeply some solace in these hard days.

  61. 61.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    December 8, 2022 at 2:42 am

    So, since open thread. Just got a new job in the strangest job search in my life.  The entire search was me bumming for five months off my severance, applying at one place,  the interview was more like me interviewing them and the new job is a 25% raise from the last job.  So..erm.

    Talking with my former coworkers it sounds like they have had similar experience, just sort of stumble from the old job into a new one with a huge raise. Were all electronic technicians, so hardly something that’s the hot thing.   The News keeps on talking like tech is down but I have,  ever seen a job market this hot since, Even the 90s wasn’t like this.

  62. 62.

    eclare

    December 8, 2022 at 2:53 am

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:   Wow!  Congratulations!

  63. 63.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    December 8, 2022 at 3:14 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Drinking injury going to check the coals….

  64. 64.

    Kathleen

    December 8, 2022 at 3:23 am

    My deepest condolences to you on the loss of your dear friend. Holding you in light.

  65. 65.

    Tony Jay

    December 8, 2022 at 3:29 am

    @John Cole:

    You’re a good guy, Cole.

  66. 66.

    Emma from Miami

    December 8, 2022 at 3:56 am

    @John Cole: Thank you for this. Through caring for my 88 year old father with (so far) a mild form of dementia, I am facing questions of death and grief. Funny, my mom died so suddenly and she was so ill that it was almost a relief to know she was at rest. Dad is technically in better health but watching him disappear as his mind goes is more than I can handle.  Your words have given me both insight and hope. Bless you, John Cole. You are one of the righteous ones.

  67. 67.

    Elizabelle

    December 8, 2022 at 4:07 am

    John, good to hear from you.  Keep on keeping on.  Best to you and all of Tammy’s loved ones.

  68. 68.

    thalarctosMaritimus

    December 8, 2022 at 6:19 am

    @John Cole: I’m so sorry to belatedly hear the news about Tammy. I’m holding you and Brian and Tammy’s mom in my thoughts. I’m glad you have each other to turn to, and I’m relieved that you sound like you’re coping as well as possible with her loss.

    You’ve built a true community here, and we care about you. That you trust us enough to open up about what you’re going through means a great deal.

  69. 69.

    Honus

    December 8, 2022 at 7:49 am

    Between grief and nothing, I will take grief.
    -William Faulkner

  70. 70.

    HinTN

    December 8, 2022 at 8:28 am

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: Late to the party. You like beef and you’ve got three young men to feed, get 4 or 5 ribs. It will keep. Merry Christmas.

  71. 71.

    Antonius

    December 8, 2022 at 8:47 am

    Thanks for dropping in, man, and for the Steve pic. Thinking of you and all of Tammy’s friends and family.

  72. 72.

    Thor Heyerdahl

    December 8, 2022 at 8:51 am

    Deepest condolences Cole.

  73. 73.

    Nancy

    December 8, 2022 at 10:00 am

    @John Cole: I am encouraged by reading your thoughts about grieving, caring for others and moving on.

    I think the recipe talk might be the online equivalent of dropping off a casserole to a family facing loss.

  74. 74.

    Kayla Rudbek

    December 8, 2022 at 10:03 am

    So sorry for your loss, John.

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