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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Open Thread: To Wordle or Not To Wordle

Open Thread: To Wordle or Not To Wordle

by WaterGirl|  December 8, 20229:49 am| 89 Comments

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I don’t read or subscribe to the NYT (they are garbage, just ask Baud) but I do Wordle first thing every morning.  Of course, I hate the NYT for buying Wordle and junking it up with “sign in to blah blah blah” and plastering their name over all of it, but I still Wordle.

It has been a (small) struggle for me not to Wordle this morning as that’s how I start my day.   But I think it’s important to support the employees, so I am not going to Wordle today, even though that means losing my streak.  You know they are going to use that as a simple measure of whether anyone gives a shit about the strike.  They are going to look at the usual number of Wordler’s every day and compare it to today’s numbers.

In case you missed it:

Following months of unsuccessful negotiations over wages, pension plan changes, reduced company health care contributions and other key issues, journalists and other employees at the New York Times are staging a large-scale walkout. The 24-hour strike by more than a thousand members started just after midnight after negotiations stalled over wages, remote work, and proposed changes to the pension plan.

Will the walkout help?  I have no idea.

Washington Post

Reporters won’t write stories or interview sources. Photojournalists will stay home. And if a spate of unsavory language breaks out in the online comments thread posted below a New York Times story, there might not be anyone on hand to delete it.

That’s the expected scenario at the Times on Thursday, after more than 1,100 employees began a day-long work stoppage at midnight in one of the most dramatic labor disputes at the company in decades.

Members of the New York Times Guild — the union that covers about 1,400 Times workers, including non-newsroom departments such as advertising and security — have said the walkout is the culmination of months of frustration over contract negotiations on a range of issues, particularly compensation. The previous employee contract expired in March 2021. In a letter to members this week, union organizers wrote that “we cannot get to a deal until the company makes wage and benefit proposals that truly share the company’s gains with its employees.” They accused the company Wednesday evening of failing to “bargain in good faith.”

So… who’s crossing the picket line to Wordle or do anything else NYT between midnight last night and midnight tonight?

Does this strike matter in the larger scheme of things?

Totally open thread.

Update: h/t Mr. Potato

Don't play Wordle today.https://t.co/SvhAWDy1BR pic.twitter.com/Kf3IbdPL9Y

— Neil Steinberg (@NeilSteinberg) December 8, 2022

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  1. 1.

    Bg

    December 8, 2022 at 9:52 am

    Whole family is going through Wordle withdrawal today. Washington Post has a mini crossword that’s helping some  A bit sad because it’s a way we keep in touch across the country, comparing scores every morning. But we’re united in solidarity with the working journalists.

  2. 2.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    December 8, 2022 at 9:53 am

    And if a spate of unsavory language breaks out in the online comments thread posted below a New York Times story, there might not be anyone on hand to delete it.

    hmmm…..

  3. 3.

    Ken

    December 8, 2022 at 9:55 am

    There are wordle clones out there.  Or for something different, try https://wafflegame.net/. There’s an archive.

  4. 4.

    kmeyerthelurker

    December 8, 2022 at 9:55 am

    Don’t want to Wordle?  Worldle instead!

  5. 5.

    Starfish

    December 8, 2022 at 9:56 am

    I will help you make it through the day.

    https://sedecordle.com/
    https://wafflegame.net/

  6. 6.

    Bg

    December 8, 2022 at 9:56 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Don’t give them clicks

  7. 7.

    Josie

    December 8, 2022 at 9:57 am

    I refused to have any contact with the Times long ago, so there is nothing more I can do. Sorry for those of you in Wordle withdrawal. Try to remember what you did before Wordle was a thing.​
     ETA: I am definitely a fan of nasty comments breaking out in comment threads.

  8. 8.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 8, 2022 at 9:59 am

    A principle is only a principle if you are willing to sacrifice for it. A Wordle streak* may seem like an insignificant sacrifice compared to the Bay View Massacre, but it is something. Just don’t expect it to get you a standing O at the Labor Temple

    *I don’t do Wordle.

  9. 9.

    OzarkHillbilly

    December 8, 2022 at 9:59 am

    I pretty much avoid the NYT out of habit, so I geuss my boycotting them today will go unnoticed.

  10. 10.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    December 8, 2022 at 9:59 am

    I confess to forgetting about the strike this morning and doing the wordle. I feel bad. My mother worked for the Detroit Free Press. Various unions protected the workers there too. Reporters etc were Guild members

  11. 11.

    Ohio Mom

    December 8, 2022 at 10:00 am

    Yeah, I am missing Wordle ands bunch of the NYT’s other games today.

    The news articles stay up for weeks as do the features, I can catch up with them any time but the games are only up for a day and then they are gone forever.

    I’ll manage but I do have this nagging feeling I’m forgetting to do something.

  12. 12.

    Mousebumples

    December 8, 2022 at 10:02 am

    I’ll skip Wordle today and only do the Redactle.

  13. 13.

    The Moar You Know

    December 8, 2022 at 10:02 am

    Does this strike matter in the larger scheme of things?

    All strikes matter and anyone who crosses a picket line is human garbage.

    People glom onto their political party of choice for many reasons.  My primary reason for being a Democrat is labor rights.

    Any of you can live without Wordle, whatever the fuck that is, for a day.

  14. 14.

    ALurkSupreme

    December 8, 2022 at 10:03 am

    I, too, did the Wordle.   Forgot about the walkout.

  15. 15.

    M31

    December 8, 2022 at 10:03 am

    haven’t missed Wordle since it started pre-NYT but will happily do so today

    FTFNYT

  16. 16.

    jonas

    December 8, 2022 at 10:04 am

    @kmeyerthelurker: ​
      *raises hand* Totally addicted to Worldle. I’m pretty good at geography, so I get most of them in one or two tries, but the ones that throw me are these little South Pacific island nations like Nauru that pop up occasionally.

  17. 17.

    Feathers

    December 8, 2022 at 10:08 am

    I must confess I did today’s crossword when it went up at 10pm last night. I can do Fridays tomorrow. My streak is less than two weeks old because last weekend is the first time I got through both the Saturday and Sunday puzzles without breaking down and doing the error check. It all feels very fragile.

    On Wordle. It shows you your current streak and your longest streak. Assuming that your current streak is your longest, after tomorrow just add your current and longest for your “strike adjusted” streak.

  18. 18.

    Elizabelle

    December 8, 2022 at 10:10 am

    as always, steeplejack provided.  word master, same as wordle, and you can play 40 games in a row.

    https://octokatherine.github.io/word-master/

    staying away from the ftfny times

    all small case because dog asleep on my lap

  19. 19.

    Steeplejack

    December 8, 2022 at 10:12 am

    I “accidentally” did the Wordle at 12:01 a.m. last night, but I am staying off the Times site today, which is a big deal for newshound me. Management apparently has been delaying and negotiating in bad faith for a year and a half. They need a little jolt.

  20. 20.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 10:12 am

    @Ken: Silly boy, Waffle is for the evenings at 6 pm! :-)

  21. 21.

    Steeplejack

    December 8, 2022 at 10:13 am

    @Ken:

    Waffle is a great game. Another daily stop for me.

  22. 22.

    James E Powell

    December 8, 2022 at 10:14 am

    I don’t have any problem skipping wordle. I am conflicted about the fate of the employees because while I don’t want them to suffer, part of me wants the FTFNYT to collapse & die.

  23. 23.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 10:17 am

    @The Moar You Know:  I’m with you.  All strikes matter.  I do wish the NYT would die in a fire, though.  Just not the employees.

  24. 24.

    Elizabelle

    December 8, 2022 at 10:18 am

    @James E Powell:  their new editor is a shitshow.  not the relief from clueless dean banquet we hoped for.  of course, the problem begins w the owners/publishers.

    and who knows where they actually get their money?  hard to believe they’re signing up actual subscribers.

  25. 25.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 10:18 am

    @Steeplejack: I was going to call you the name they call people who cross a picket line, but I can’t remember the word. :-)

  26. 26.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 10:19 am

    @Elizabelle: I can’t remember… have you given up the Times yet or do you still have your subscription?

  27. 27.

    oatler

    December 8, 2022 at 10:20 am

    @WaterGirl:

    There’s not a woman in this town row
    Will look at the blackleg miner.

  28. 28.

    ian

    December 8, 2022 at 10:22 am

    Don’t know if this has been discussed here yet, but Brittney Griner is coming home.

  29. 29.

    Steeplejack

    December 8, 2022 at 10:24 am

    @WaterGirl:

    🟩⬜🟨🟨

  30. 30.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    December 8, 2022 at 10:25 am

    Pretty sure there are some high priced and worthless pundits they could lose and have money left over to cover benefits for real reporters. It is all a question of priority. I hope the NY Times figures that out.

  31. 31.

    Elizabelle

    December 8, 2022 at 10:26 am

    @WaterGirl:  I kept it, but plan to call to cancel and hope they’ll give me a bargain basement rate, and rebate me for the Cooking subscription.  If they don’t, I will just let it go.  For good.

    They are such a seriously flawed paper.  They’re dangerous.  Red Wave!!

  32. 32.

    Anonymous At Work

    December 8, 2022 at 10:29 am

    I mean, have they seen how they covered the rail strike?  Did they run to the owners and sympathize with the lost profits (OH! the Humanity!) while asking the workers why they wanted to ruin the economy?  If so, I dunno.  One would hope that this incident sticks in their mind when writing coverage but sociopath-level disassociation is a top-tier journalist skill in political coverage.

  33. 33.

    Elizabelle

    December 8, 2022 at 10:29 am

    OK, at first I was not sure if this was a parody (thanks, Onion), or a review of a disastrous concert performance.  But it’s real.  From the WaPost:
    Celine Dion shares diagnosis of incurable stiff-person syndrome

    Celine Dion announced that she was diagnosed with a rare and incurable neurological condition known as stiff-person syndrome, and that she will cancel or postpone dozens of shows in her “Courage World Tour.”

    In an emotional, five-minute Instagram video posted Thursday, Dion, 54, told fans: “I’ve been dealing with problems with my health for a long time, and it’s been really difficult for me to face these challenges and to talk about everything that I’ve been going through.”

    “Recently, I’ve been diagnosed with a very rare neurological disorder called the stiff-person syndrome,” she continued.

     …  Stiff-person syndrome, or SPS, is a neurological and autoimmune disorder that causes muscles to stiffen progressively, causing painful and debilitating spasms. In more extreme forms, it can prevent people from walking or going about their day-to-day lives.

    Loud noises or emotional distress can trigger the spasms, causing people with SPS to fall and injure themselves — leaving some of them “afraid to leave the house,” according to the U.S. National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke (NINDS).

    It is not curable, but symptoms can be managed and alleviated through medication. Experts don’t know what causes SPS, which affects women more than men, according to NINDS.

  34. 34.

    Jay C

    December 8, 2022 at 10:31 am

    @ian:

    yes, President  Biden made the announcement about Griner earlier this morning. The swap was made in Abu Dhabi for some reason, and she is flying home today.

    Of course, the RWNJ media is in a frothing frenzy of fault-finding Outrage:

  35. 35.

    Steeplejack

    December 8, 2022 at 10:31 am

    Absurdle is another Wordle alternative.

  36. 36.

    Alison Rose

    December 8, 2022 at 10:33 am

    What’s harder for me is skipping Spelling Bee, but I can do it for one to day to show solidarity.

  37. 37.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 10:34 am

    @Steeplejack: How does that even work?  No instructions.

  38. 38.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 10:34 am

    @ian: Yes, there is a post up.

  39. 39.

    Matt McIrvin

    December 8, 2022 at 10:34 am

    I used to work for a company that employed both union technicians and non-union software engineers. The software people were formally classed as “management” and this struck me as odd until I realized it meant we were expected, nay ordered, to cross picket lines and do scab work in the event of a strike. Fortunately it never came to that for me personally, but it took me too long to realize that it would be a “moral obligation to quit job” situation (I wouldn’t exactly have been starving).

  40. 40.

    Rachel Bakes

    December 8, 2022 at 10:50 am

    Three skipping Wordle in our house today. Got my game fix in by continuing Globle. Not crossing the picket line here. Had to search this morning to get answer as to whether they were striking or not-didn’t want to search and give NYT inadvertent clicks

  41. 41.

    Steeplejack

    December 8, 2022 at 10:52 am

    @WaterGirl:

    It’s just like Wordle. Type in a five-letter word and press Enter.

  42. 42.

    GibberJack

    December 8, 2022 at 10:54 am

    There’s a disconnect between FTFNYT and “I hope their employees get better working conditions”.

    If you canceled your subscription because the NYT is garbage, that impacted the employees as well as the owner. And good on you. You did the right thing.

    If you think the NYT is fascist-curious (and indeed they always have been) and you think they are in the tank for Republican rule (and indeed we have seen they are), or, if you remember back far enough, that they helped create a lie for a war of choice (under the byline of Judith Miller et al) then why would you want to support their employees?

    I hate Focus on the Family and the Federalist Society and no way would I help or support in any way the people who work there to be paid more and get a nice pension.

    Fuckem.

    I want the NYT to fail, and I do not want to help their employees in any way.

  43. 43.

    narya

    December 8, 2022 at 10:56 am

    @Alison Rose: That’s the one I do, too, but thanks to this Full-Service Blog, I was reminded of the strike before I clicked through.

  44. 44.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 10:56 am

    @Steeplejack: But what happens from there?

  45. 45.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 8, 2022 at 11:02 am

    I haven’t read NYT since they stuck a knife in HRC’s back with But Her Emailz. But I will continuing doing the Wordle and the Quordle and the Waffle. I broke my streak when I was traveling to India and had no Wi-Fi access on the flight.

  46. 46.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 8, 2022 at 11:06 am

    Just saw the exit polls from the Georgia runoffs from ABC. 68% of white women and over 70% white men voted for Walker. Would be interesting to look at exit poll data from other states for the midterms.

  47. 47.

    ChasM

    December 8, 2022 at 11:12 am

    I vowed to quit wordle after my first loss, and I kept my promise.

    Now I just do Worldle, which is similar but for geography. I don’t worry if I lose that one.

  48. 48.

    artem1s

    December 8, 2022 at 11:15 am

    haven’t done Wordle since the FYNYT polluted it. Try Octordle instead. Lots more fun!

  49. 49.

    TaMara

    December 8, 2022 at 11:21 am

    Quordle is good.

    https://www.quordle.com/

  50. 50.

    ChasM

    December 8, 2022 at 11:25 am

    Today’s Worldle is I really tough. Id never even heard of this country

     

    https://worldle.teuteuf.fr

  51. 51.

    Steeplejack

    December 8, 2022 at 11:27 am

    @WaterGirl:

    It shows you (on my computer, at least) wrong letters in black, misplaced letters in yellow and correct letters in green, pretty much like Wordle. Then you type another word, etc.

  52. 52.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 11:30 am

    @Steeplejack: Yeah, I just found the instructions.  It’s clever. That they can change the word midstream seems unfair!

  53. 53.

    Ohio Mom

    December 8, 2022 at 11:35 am

    @Alison Rose: You can jerry-rig a version of today’s Spelling Bee by by going to https://www.sbsolver.com/answers

    This site isn’t associated with the times, just some geeks having fun.

    They list today’s letters as Paglnoy, with P in the middle of the circle. The total answers add up to:
    words: 46
    score: 193 pts
    pangrams: 2
    bingo: yes

  54. 54.

    Ohio Mom

    December 8, 2022 at 11:38 am

    @schrodingers_cat: And as those white men and women voted for Walker, they congratulated themselves for not being bigots because how could they be prejudiced, they are voting for a Black man.

  55. 55.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2022 at 11:40 am

    Not to.

    Don't play Wordle today.https://t.co/SvhAWDy1BR pic.twitter.com/Kf3IbdPL9Y— Neil Steinberg (@NeilSteinberg) December 8, 2022

  56. 56.

    Miss Bianca

    December 8, 2022 at 11:42 am

    @schrodingers_cat: And yet, Warnock prevailed. Makes me wonder about the percentage of POC as a part of Georgia’s total population.

  57. 57.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 11:45 am

    @mrmoshpotato: So good I added it to the post.  I gave you credit.  sort of!  I can never remember how to spell your nym.

  58. 58.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 11:46 am

    @Miss Bianca: Or maybe people said they voted for Walker, but did not?

  59. 59.

    Miss Bianca

    December 8, 2022 at 11:59 am

     

    @WaterGirl: possible, I suppose. But if true, that means that exit polling has become just as unreliable as any other type of polling. In other words…useless.

  60. 60.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 8, 2022 at 12:00 pm

    @Miss Bianca: I think about 40% of those voting were not white.

  61. 61.

    Jess

    December 8, 2022 at 12:00 pm

    I stopped playing Wordle a few months ago because I was so f-ing busy, but I was thinking about starting up again now that the semester is over. Oh well. I guess I’ll buy another crossword book instead.

  62. 62.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 8, 2022 at 12:01 pm

    @WaterGirl: Why would they lie? I take people at their word unless I have evidence to the contrary.

  63. 63.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 8, 2022 at 12:02 pm

    @Ohio Mom: Nailed it.

  64. 64.

    Kristine

    December 8, 2022 at 12:07 pm

    @Elizabelle: I tried it. Nice graphics.

  65. 65.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 12:11 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Reputation?  Because my redneck husband was with me and I didn’t want to say in front of him that either I voted for Warnock or I couldn’t bring myself to vote for Walker so I left it blank.

  66. 66.

    Brachiator

    December 8, 2022 at 12:11 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Just saw the exit polls from the Georgia runoffs from ABC. 68% of white women and over 70% white men voted for Walker. Would be interesting to look at exit poll data from other states for the midterms.

    In the South, white people, especially religious white people, overwhelmingly vote Republican.

  67. 67.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 8, 2022 at 12:12 pm

    @Steeplejack: Me too. Not only have I finished all the games in the archive, I have also gone back and tried to get 5 stars. I am up to 82% now.

  68. 68.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 8, 2022 at 12:15 pm

    @WaterGirl: May be true for some  but  it would be mathematically impossible for Walker to have gotten the percentage of the votes he did without getting majority of white support both male and female

  69. 69.

    Steeplejack

    December 8, 2022 at 12:17 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    That’s dedication! I have done the complete archive, but I got the scores I got.

    I wish there was an archive for the deluxe Waffle.

  70. 70.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 12:33 pm

    @Steeplejack: I wish there were deluxe waffles every day in addition to the regular waffle

    edit: if you use Kofi (sp?) to “buy him a waffle” you get one bonus Deluxe waffle as a thank you.

  71. 71.

    Brachiator

    December 8, 2022 at 12:38 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Also, I think these are the exit polls for the November Georgia Senate election,  not the runoff.

    I previously looked at a CNN exit poll for the November election. The numbers and percentages appear to be identical.

     

    @Miss Bianca:

    And yet, Warnock prevailed. Makes me wonder about the percentage of POC as a part of Georgia’s total population.

    The exit poll response was about 28 percent black. Georgia is about 33 percent black.

  72. 72.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 8, 2022 at 12:40 pm

    @Brachiator:

    You are right. I went back and confirmed.

  73. 73.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 8, 2022 at 12:41 pm

    @Brachiator: With Latinos and Asians it is around 40% IIRC.

  74. 74.

    Salt Water

    December 8, 2022 at 12:45 pm

    Canuckle is a good alternative. It’s on hiatus but you can play their archive.

    My brother enjoys Quordle and Octordle. There’s also Nerdle (numbers) and as mentioned Worldle (geography).

    Anti-Wordle is a good one too.

  75. 75.

    Brachiator

    December 8, 2022 at 12:52 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    And as those white men and women voted for Walker, they congratulated themselves for not being bigots because how could they be prejudiced, they are voting for a Black man.

    The strongest bigots may have voted for the libertarian candidate or just stayed home rather than vote for either black candidate. But the wild thing is that 70 percent of white voters chose the person that Trump wanted. They would have voted for a rock with the words “anti abortion” written on it.

  76. 76.

    Brachiator

    December 8, 2022 at 1:07 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    With Latinos and Asians it is around 40% IIRC.

    Yep. And it looks like 59 percent of Latinos and Asians voted for Warnock.

  77. 77.

    MazeDancer

    December 8, 2022 at 1:32 pm

    Good for you, WaterGirl for not crossing the pixel picket line!

    Union!

  78. 78.

    glc

    December 8, 2022 at 1:43 pm

    quordle/globle – pleasant alternatives

    redactle (will take a while, and a bit of an acquired taste)

  79. 79.

    Kevin

    December 8, 2022 at 2:04 pm

    Dang I already played before hearing about this. I actually would have not played today. My streak ended on Saturday anyway so I wouldn’t have cared about ending a whole 4 day streak.

  80. 80.

    Ken

    December 8, 2022 at 2:30 pm

    @Brachiator: They would have voted for a rock with the words “anti abortion” written on it.

    Except in this case the rock had “Pays for abortions. Frequently.” written on it.

  81. 81.

    Zzyzx

    December 8, 2022 at 2:36 pm

    I kind of bent the rules, stayed up until midnight and told myself that I had exactly 1 minute to solve it because I was starting my boycott at 12:01 AM.

  82. 82.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 2:42 pm

    @Zzyzx: :: buzzer sounds ::

    Sorry, on the NYT list, you and Steep are going to count as no change from previous days.

    NYT Union members will be delivering your sackcloth and ashes as you exit.

  83. 83.

    Ruckus

    December 8, 2022 at 2:47 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    It’s the FTFNYT. Once upon a time to read it you had to have a large piece of paper in your hands. Now you can pay a monthly fee and see it on line. The production costs are dramatically less than printing it. And they still do that and sell lots of copies every day. It’s the FTFNYT, the Paper of Record. Like all newspapers they make money by printing/typing/distributing the news of the day. And they cover the market they are mostly interested in, the wealthy NY folks, who make money, moving money around, investing in money. (OK that’s a lot of the billionaires in this world who care about their accounts and not much else, after all it’s rush to be a billionaire and able to purchase homes on 20 acres that measure 20,000 sq ft that you might visit 2 or 3 days a year and purchase an idiot for president so you can grow your accounts and screw over more of those little people. I mean isn’t that the point of life?)

  84. 84.

    Zzyzx

    December 8, 2022 at 2:53 pm

    @WaterGirl: Some of my friends changed their time zone on a device and played yesterday.

  85. 85.

    Zzyzx

    December 8, 2022 at 2:59 pm

    @WaterGirl: And yeah, I’ll take the hit.

    The one thing that I was careful to do was to not post the results to encourage others.

  86. 86.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2022 at 3:28 pm

    @Zzyzx: That was a good idea.

  87. 87.

    David 🦃The Establishment🥧 Koch

    December 8, 2022 at 3:44 pm

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue

  88. 88.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    December 8, 2022 at 5:03 pm

    @Alison Rose: Oooh, I’ve started doing Spelling Bee again and it is fun.  But the one I’m really addicted to is Vertex.  But not today.

  89. 89.

    Skepticat

    December 8, 2022 at 6:03 pm

    I’m pretty sure they didn’t notice and wouldn’t care, but I haven’t Wordled since the FNYT took over. I’m a petty b*itch.

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