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You are here: Home / Politics / Biden Administration in Action / President Zelenskyy’s Visit

President Zelenskyy’s Visit

by WaterGirl|  December 21, 20223:20 pm| 60 Comments

This post is in: Biden Administration in Action, Open Threads, War in Ukraine

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Here’s a place to talk about all things related to President Zelenskyy’s visit.

A post for the joint press conference is also scheduled.

This says it all pic.twitter.com/e28ANep8lb

— MeidasTouch (@MeidasTouch) December 21, 2022

Zelenskyy presents Biden with a gift from fighters in Bakhmut pic.twitter.com/Hjy38uf4s2

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 21, 2022

h/t for the tweets from Alison Rose and zhena gogolia

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 3:25 pm

    Thank you, WG! If anyone missed it, be sure to watch the whole Oval Office portion. It was really nice to hear Biden reaffirm our support and admiration for Ukraine, and to hear Zelenskyy’s heartfelt thanks and appreciation.

    Then of course once they were done, the reporters all started absolutely yelling questions, and I was like, people…you really think he’s gonna be able to understand any of you? English is my first language and I couldn’t understand a damn word they said.

  2. 2.

    Ken

    December 21, 2022 at 3:25 pm

    I see Fox’s live reporting on the gift didn’t insert commentary, so we’ll have to wait for tonight’s programming to hear that this was how they got the server with Hillary’s emails from Ukraine into Biden’s hands.

  3. 3.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 3:26 pm

    @Ken: The medal is actually a USB drive with everything from Hunter’s laptop.

  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    December 21, 2022 at 3:27 pm

    @Ken: I trust that Hunter Biden’s laptop was involved at some point.

    Edit: I see we’re all thinking along similar lines.

  5. 5.

    WaterGirl

    December 21, 2022 at 3:27 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    If anyone missed it, be sure to watch the whole Oval Office portion.

    Do you have a  link for a longer version?

  6. 6.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 3:29 pm

    @WaterGirl: Looks like this should be the full thing,.

    I didn’t watch the tweet videos above, so it’s possible they cover the whole thing.

  7. 7.

    sab

    December 21, 2022 at 3:29 pm

    @Alison Rose: EVERYONE KNOWS THAT FOREIGNERS WILL UNDERSTAND YOU IF ONLY YOU SPEAK LOUDER!!

  8. 8.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 3:29 pm

    @sab: AND TWENTY OF YOU AT ONCE!!!!

  9. 9.

    zhena gogolia

    December 21, 2022 at 3:32 pm

    Thanks, WG.

  10. 10.

    sab

    December 21, 2022 at 3:33 pm

    @Alison Rose: Gotta laugh.

  11. 11.

    David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch

    December 21, 2022 at 3:37 pm

    WASHINGTON (AP) — At a time of grave consequence, a wartime leader crossed the Atlantic to arrive at a White House decked in holiday decor to consult with the American president about a war in Europe.

    The moment was Dec. 22, 1941, as British Prime Minister Winston Churchill landed near Washington to meet with President Franklin D. Roosevelt just weeks after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Almost 81 years later to the day, the pageantry of that trip was echoed on Wednesday as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy touched down at Joint Base Andrews just outside the capital for a surprise visit with President Joe Biden and an address to Congress.​

  12. 12.

    kalakal

    December 21, 2022 at 3:37 pm

    @sab: Annnnnd sllllooooowly with a rising inflection and meaningless hand gestures

  13. 13.

    trollhattan

    December 21, 2022 at 3:38 pm

    Ka-thwack, ka-thwack, ka-thwack, ka-thwack, ka-thwack, ka-thwack, ka-thwack, ka-thwack, ka-thwack.
    All you Luddite photogs still lugging the DSLRs, get with the program. (I have a camera with a 120 fps silent shutter, so there, dudes!)

  14. 14.

    Betty Cracker

    December 21, 2022 at 3:39 pm

    That photo spread with Zelensky and Trump and Zelensky and Biden is so telling!

  15. 15.

    kalakal

    December 21, 2022 at 3:40 pm

    That contrast picture.

  16. 16.

    BenCisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️

    December 21, 2022 at 3:41 pm

    @Alison Rose:  

    Then of course once they were done, the reporters all started absolutely yelling questions, and I was like, people…you really think he’s gonna be able to understand any of you? English is my first language and I couldn’t understand a damn word they said

    It’s just as well – you KNOW they were going to be the insipid queries that the Press Corpse is known for.

  17. 17.

    kalakal

    December 21, 2022 at 3:48 pm

    @BenCisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️: The Press Corps should have to cross a bridge before being allowed in

    “STOP! Who approacheth the Bridge of Death Must answer me These questions three Ere the other side he see.”

  18. 18.

    sab

    December 21, 2022 at 3:48 pm

    @kalakal: Works with my Chinese inlaws. Of course they speak English better than I do

    ETA But my  midwestern American accent is better. Some of them sound British.

  19. 19.

    Betty Cracker

    December 21, 2022 at 3:49 pm

    @David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch: Zelensky tends to deflect Churchill comparisons, but it’s probably helpful to his cause with an American (or British) audience.

  20. 20.

    Chief Oshkosh

    December 21, 2022 at 3:49 pm

    @kalakal: African or European?

  21. 21.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 3:50 pm

    @BenCisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️: “MR. ZELENSKYY, WHY WON’T YOU GO TO THE KREMLIN AND LICK PUTIN’S BOOTS AND GIVE HIM A BIG KISS SO HE STOPS BOMBING YOU??”

  22. 22.

    David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch

    December 21, 2022 at 3:54 pm

    Zelenskyy then presented Mr. Biden with a Ukrainian captain’s combat award, saying the soldier wanted Mr. Biden to have it.

     Pelosi said the evening is “fraught with meaning for me.”
    “My father, Congressman Thomas D’Alesandro, Jr., was a Member of the House in 1941 when Winston Churchill came to the Congress on the day after Christmas to enlist our nation’s support in the fight against tyranny in Europe,” she wrote. “Eighty-one years later this week, it is particularly poignant for me to be present when another heroic leader addresses the Congress in a time of war — and with Democracy itself on the line.”

    I’m so proud to be a Democrat.​

  23. 23.

    WaterGirl

    December 21, 2022 at 3:59 pm

    @David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch: Nancy Pelosi says “for me to be present”: and not “the leader of the House”.

    Big dogs don’t have to rub their power in your face.

  24. 24.

    trollhattan

    December 21, 2022 at 3:59 pm

    Good thing Zelenskyy’s rocking olive drab and not tan. Can’t you just hear the Republicans?

  25. 25.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 4:01 pm

    @trollhattan: I’ve seen a few whiny tweets being like “omg can’t he put on a suit????” If it makes them mad to see him in a sweatshirt, then I like it even more.

  26. 26.

    BenCisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️

    December 21, 2022 at 4:03 pm

    @Alison Rose: You jest, but you KNOW one of those aholes was thinking it, if not trying to say it out loud…

  27. 27.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 4:03 pm

    John Heilemann is not a good substitute anchor.

  28. 28.

    CaseyL

    December 21, 2022 at 4:08 pm

    A Politico reporter (and, therefore, a tool) just opined on Mastodon that he hoped Zelenskyy is the “real deal,” seeing as how he started out as a “two bit actor.”

    The venue being Mastodon, rather than BirdShite, I did take the trouble to reply.  Have no idea if the guy will read my reply, and don’t frankly care.  I don’t want to see trolls and trogs go unchallenged on Mastodon during the short interval when challenging them might be effective.

    Looking forward to the press conference, though with some trepidation because our MSM sucks.  Definitely looking forward to the speech to Congress which, I hope, CSPAN will carry live.

  29. 29.

    David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch

    December 21, 2022 at 4:08 pm

    @trollhattan: ​
      I like the shutter noise.

    What did you get, a mirrorless camera?

  30. 30.

    WaterGirl

    December 21, 2022 at 4:08 pm

    @trollhattan: Yeah, I’m picturing Fetternman shouting “yes!” with his fist pumping in the air.

  31. 31.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 4:10 pm

    @CaseyL: Um. Has this asshole been living under a rock since the end of February? Zelenskyy has proven a thousand times that he is absolutely the “real deal”. Also, fuck him for “two-bit actor” – Ze was literally one of the biggest and most popular actors and comedians in the whole country. I assume this reporter is an American? Typical Western bullshit that if we haven’t heard of someone, they can’t be worth hearing of.

  32. 32.

    WaterGirl

    December 21, 2022 at 4:13 pm

    @CaseyL: anyone who doesn’t know Zelenskyy is the real deal is either an idiot or a clueless idiot.

  33. 33.

    Betty Cracker

    December 21, 2022 at 4:14 pm

    @CaseyL: That might have been a reasonable (if rude) question in January 2022. But now? It makes me wonder how that guy can report from the rock he lives under. (Oh right, Politico — that answers my question.)

  34. 34.

    CaseyL

    December 21, 2022 at 4:14 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    @WaterGirl:

    He’s a Politico reporter. “Asshole” and “clueless idiot” are job requirements.

  35. 35.

    kalakal

    December 21, 2022 at 4:15 pm

    @CaseyL: ‘Two-bit actor’ a description that fits that hollow shell Reagan

  36. 36.

    gwangung

    December 21, 2022 at 4:15 pm

    @Alison Rose: That IS a business suit. His business is fighting a war.

  37. 37.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 4:18 pm

    @gwangung: That’s a good way to put it.

  38. 38.

    sab

    December 21, 2022 at 4:20 pm

    On the Ukraine threads everyone wants nuke all Russians. I understand. But Russia also had Sergei Magnitskey, who was a tax guy, like me, and infinitely more brave than I could be. He died in Russian prison standing up for Russian tax laws against the oligarchs. Russia is full of such people. Let us not abandon such people just because most of their compatriots disagree.

  39. 39.

    Dan B

    December 21, 2022 at 4:21 pm

    @Alison Rose: Zelensky’s parents are (were?) Professors.  He has a law degree.  The guy is brilliant.  Second rate reporter says what?

  40. 40.

    Old School

    December 21, 2022 at 4:22 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    Ze was literally one of the biggest and most popular actors and comedians in the whole country.

    I hope he does the piano playing bit for Congress tonight.

  41. 41.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 4:25 pm

    @Old School: I know that’s the bit everyone thinks of, but his body of work is vast, and a lot of it might be a little slapstick but it’s no less astute for that. Plenty of the old Kvartal 95 sketches seem silly on the surface but are also brilliantly skewering corruption and russia and oligarchs and such.

  42. 42.

    WaterGirl

    December 21, 2022 at 4:26 pm

    @gwangung: It is the right choice.  It is the only choice.

    That said, if he had worn a suit, you know there would be much clucking of tongues about how this visit is just for show.blah blah blah.

  43. 43.

    WaterGirl

    December 21, 2022 at 4:27 pm

    @Dan B:

    Second rate reporter says what?

    New rotating tag.  Literally.

  44. 44.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 4:27 pm

    @WaterGirl: How many tags do we have now?

  45. 45.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 4:30 pm

    @sab: As Julia Ioffe just said, the reasons most people in russia who oppose the war feel that way are for their own asses and their own bottom lines, not because they give a damn about Ukrainians. I don’t give them any props for that.

  46. 46.

    Captain C

    December 21, 2022 at 4:32 pm

    @Dan B:

    Second rate reporter says what?

    Says “I can’t be bothered to do my research, or my job in general, so I hope my readers are even more ignorant and don’t notice.”

  47. 47.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 4:34 pm

    This photo looks like the two of them are heading off to go kick putin’s ass together. Love it.

  48. 48.

    WaterGirl

    December 21, 2022 at 4:37 pm

    @Alison Rose: I don’t know, I haven’t looked at that in awhile.  I go through periodically and retire tags that are out of code.

  49. 49.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 4:45 pm

    Presser starting!

  50. 50.

    zhena gogolia

    December 21, 2022 at 4:55 pm

    @Alison Rose: Fittingly, the Time magazine came today! It’s beautiful. I will get it in the mail to you as soon as I can. Slava Ukraini!

  51. 51.

    zhena gogolia

    December 21, 2022 at 4:59 pm

    @sab: Yes, many Russians have suffered and died to stand against Putin. For decades.

  52. 52.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 5:00 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Yay!!! You are so amazing :)

  53. 53.

    zhena gogolia

    December 21, 2022 at 5:03 pm

    @Alison Rose: My pleasure.

  54. 54.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 5:12 pm

    Dumb question, meh

  55. 55.

    George

    December 21, 2022 at 5:12 pm

    The “second rate reporter” is not dumb nor is he lazy. He knows exactly what he is doing–pimping a certain flavor of propaganda. He knows what the truth is. He simply chooses, knowingly, to report lies designed to influence public opinion so he can get his paycheck.
    On the other hand, someone like Cillizza really is dumb and lazy.​

  56. 56.

    Alison Rose

    December 21, 2022 at 5:16 pm

    LOL Zelenskyy bringing the jokes :P

  57. 57.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 21, 2022 at 5:23 pm

    @sab: It’s a lost cause.

  58. 58.

    Aussie Sheila

    December 21, 2022 at 5:46 pm

    @George: Exactly. Political reporting is mostly favour exchanging, and for an outlet like Politico, it is cheaper than doing deep dives and/or investigative work.

    The truth is inimical to the bottom line.

  59. 59.

    Ruckus

    December 21, 2022 at 6:13 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    With rethugs it’s all about the presentation, never about the substance. Because if they actually made it about the substance no one would want to hear their bullshit and they’d lose every time. Because their substance is give us money. So the presentation is all they have left, the presentation bullshit that is. He’s not wearing a suit!!!!!! Who gives a rats ass besides the perforative assholes on the right?

  60. 60.

    Ruckus

    December 21, 2022 at 6:16 pm

    @CaseyL:

    He’s a Politico reporter. “Asshole” and “clueless idiot” are job requirements.

    Obviously the only two.

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