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Late Night Open Thread: Tesla’s New *Working* Boss

by Anne Laurie|  January 4, 20231:55 am| 46 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You, Tech News & Issues

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There's been a decent amount of ink spilled (quite justly) on the Musk/China issue but the thing that sticks out about it to me is that it shows Musk *is* capable of disciplining his utterances given sufficient incentive. He retains a certain level of self-control.

— Alex Godofsky (@AlexGodofsky) December 29, 2022

Exclusive: Tesla makes China boss highest-profile executive after Musk https://t.co/QmgRSeRJoH pic.twitter.com/5k0w1CpoCE

— Reuters (@Reuters) January 3, 2023


Certainly, Tesla’s biggest financial backers retain a certain level of control:

Tesla Inc’s China chief Tom Zhu has been promoted to take direct oversight of the electric carmaker’s U.S. assembly plants as well as sales operations in North America and Europe, according to an internal posting of reporting lines reviewed by Reuters.

The Tesla posting showed that Zhu’s title of vice president for Greater China had not changed and that he also retained his responsibilities as Tesla’s most senior executive for sales in the rest of Asia as of Tuesday.

The move makes Zhu the highest-profile executive at Tesla after Chief Executive Elon Musk, with direct oversight for deliveries in all of its major markets and operations of its key production hubs.

The reporting lines for Zhu would keep Tesla’s vehicle design and development – both areas where Musk has been heavily involved – separate while creating an apparent deputy to Musk on the more near-term challenges of managing global sales and output…

[Musk retains the corner office and all the Legos & crayons development prototype tools; Zhu has the keys to the cashbox and the HR files]

Zhu and a team of his reports were brought in by Tesla late last year to troubleshoot production issues in the United States, driving an expectation among his colleagues then that he was being groomed for a bigger role.

Zhu’s appointment to a global role comes at a time when Musk has been distracted by his acquisition of Twitter and Tesla analysts and investors have urged action that would deepen the senior executive bench and allow him to focus on Tesla…

Zhu, who was born in China but now holds a New Zealand passport, joined Tesla in 2014. Before that he was a project manager at a company established by his MBA classmates at Duke University, advising Chinese contractors working on infrastructure projects in Africa.

During Shanghai’s two-month COVID lockdown, Zhu was among the first batch of employees sleeping in the factory as they sought to keep it running, people who work with him have said.

Zhu, a no-fuss manager who sports a buzz cut, favors Tesla-branded fleece jackets and has lived in a government-subsidized apartment that is a 10-minute drive from the Shanghai Gigafactory. It was not immediately clear whether he would move after his promotion.

He takes charge of Tesla’s main production hubs at a time when the company is readying the launch of Cybertruck and a revamped version of its Model 3 sedan. Tesla has also said it is developing a cheaper electric vehicle but has not provided details on that plan…

Tesla board member James Murdoch said in November the company had recently identified a potential successor to Musk without naming the person. Murdoch did not respond to a request for comment…

Tesla lost around $47 billion in market cap today. Or, put another way, it lost more than one full Twitter.

— Dan Primack (@danprimack) January 3, 2023

Elon Musk becomes first person ever to lose $268b https://t.co/XF4djx24OU r

— Mike Walker (@New_Narrative) December 31, 2022


(Arguably, this leaves aside a largish group of kleptocratic rulers and oligarchs, but Musk can console himself that he isn’t being winkled out of a ‘spider hole’ by an angry mob of his former palace guardsmen. Yet.)

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    1. 1.

      Chetan Murthy

      January 4, 2023 at 1:59 am

      +1 for “winkled”

      Reply
    2. 2.

      BellyCat

      January 4, 2023 at 2:02 am

      …lost more than one full Twitter.

      Priceless.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch

      January 4, 2023 at 2:38 am

      One Twitter here, one Twitter there, and pretty soon you’re talkn real money

      Reply
    4. 4.

      David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch

      January 4, 2023 at 2:41 am

      Every thing Dump touches (Kevin McCarthy’s career, the value of Musk’s stock) dies

      Reply
    5. 5.

      Yutsano

      January 4, 2023 at 2:42 am

      “Tesla is executing better than ever!” Mr Musk tweeted on Dec 16. “We don’t control the Federal Reserve. That is the real problem here.”

      Mon Dieu. Is there a term for watching someone devolve in real time?

      Reply
    6. 6.

      David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch

      January 4, 2023 at 2:51 am

      McCarthy was perhaps the first to say Dump was taking bribes from Putin and then he proceeded to debase himself sending boxes of candy to the beast, groveling on bended knee for his support after the coup and for what – Three Strikes and he’s out – his career is over.

      To boot, he’s too stoopid, unliked, and unconnected to cash in as a lobbyist or to sit on corporate boards. Fired from the leadership, without any committee portfolio, he’s just another back bencher only with a one way ticket to Palookaville.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch

      January 4, 2023 at 2:54 am

      @Yutsano: ​
        He’s a half step away from blaming the Elders of Zion for his humiliating own goal.

      Reply
    8. 8.

      opiejeanne

      January 4, 2023 at 2:57 am

      @David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch: Someone on Twitter said that when he disappears from the House, he’ll end up as a mediocre newsreader in the Sacramento/Central Valley area.

      Reply
    9. 9.

      🐾BillinGlendaleCA

      January 4, 2023 at 3:06 am

      @opiejeanne: SacTown is too big a market for our Kevin, Bakersfield or Bust!

      Reply
    10. 10.

      David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch

      January 4, 2023 at 3:14 am

      At this very moment, Cheryl L. Johnson, current presiding officer of the House, is 2nd in line to the presidency. Senator Patty Murray from Washington, as President pro tempore of the Senate, 3rd in line to the presidency.

      Reply
    11. 11.

      patrick II

      January 4, 2023 at 3:18 am

      My mother passed away tonight.  She was 100 years old. She went peacefully in her bed with my brother and sister holding her hands. She was kind and loved by many. I will miss her.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      James E Powell

      January 4, 2023 at 3:18 am

      @David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch:

      Hope that’s what happens to the Republican party.

      Reply
    13. 13.

      James E Powell

      January 4, 2023 at 3:21 am

      @patrick II:

      Very sorry for your loss.

      Reply
    14. 14.

      Darkrose

      January 4, 2023 at 3:22 am

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Until he was elected to the state Assembly in 2002, McCarthy had spent his entire life in Bakersfield: born there, went to high school there, went to CSU Bakersfield for his BA and MBA.

      Reply
    15. 15.

      Anne Laurie

      January 4, 2023 at 3:29 am

      @Yutsano: Is there a term for watching someone devolve in real time?

      Tuesday, Musk tweeted ’12 months ago I was Person of the Year’. SAD!

      Reply
    16. 16.

      Enhanced Voting Techniques

      January 4, 2023 at 3:34 am

      If guess the question is now will McCarthy be able to last as long as Speaker a bucket of milk from one of families cow’s.

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Sally

      January 4, 2023 at 3:48 am

      @patrick II: I am so sorry. What overwhelming sadness and loss you must be feeling. You have come to the right place in coming here.

      Reply
    18. 18.

      eclare

      January 4, 2023 at 3:51 am

      @patrick II:   I am so sorry.

      Reply
    19. 19.

      ColoradoGuy

      January 4, 2023 at 4:00 am

      Hmm. With Zhu’s ascension, I wonder if TikTok data surveillance concerns will apply to Teslas going forward (the internal GPS in the car passing its location-data stream to overseas nations, etc.)

      If US government officials are prohibited from having TikTok on phones used for official business, what of Teslas going forward? Cars didn’t use to “phone home” all the time, but they do now, the same as cell phones.

      Reply
    20. 20.

      Shalimar

      January 4, 2023 at 4:00 am

      @Anne Laurie: 12 months ago, Musk was worth roughly 20 Twitters.  Now, what with him artificially inflating the value of Twitter while also losing almost everything else, he’s worth maybe 3 Twitters.

      Reply
    21. 21.

      Shalimar

      January 4, 2023 at 4:03 am

      @patrick II: Condolences for such a huge loss.  As someone who takes care of my mother 24/7, I know it will happen in my future but can’t even imagine what it will feel like.

      Reply
    22. 22.

      Shalimar

      January 4, 2023 at 4:07 am

      @David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch: McCarthy has been the biggest fundraiser among Republican House members since Boehner retired.  As hard as it is to imagine anyone buying his bullshit, he is exactly the kind of empty suit who will have a successful career as a lobbyist.

      Reply
    23. 23.

      patrick II

      January 4, 2023 at 4:22 am

      Thank you for your condolences.  It is an odd thing that you go through life meeting all kinds of people, some of whom you admire greatly, some not.  But you come back home a realize the best person you have ever met you have known all of your life.

      Reply
    24. 24.

      NotMax

      January 4, 2023 at 4:28 am

      If they can reliably deliver the goods, a Fisker at about $23k after EV credit could prove mighty tempting to the masses.

      Next up is the Fisker PEAR, or “Personal Electric Automotive Revolution,” a smaller EV Fisker Inc. claims will launch with a remarkably competitive price of $29,900. That’s before any tax incentives, which it does stand to receive because it’s due to be built at Foxconn’s plant in Lordstown, Ohio. 

      If Fisker Inc. pulls this off, it will be one of the very few players even bothering with more affordable EVs in the current market. Most automakers are going for luxury buyers to offset the high R&D and manufacturing costs involved with battery power. 

      But this is where Fisker says he sees an opening.… Source

      Reply
    25. 25.

      Brachiator

      January 4, 2023 at 4:33 am

      @patrick II:

      My condolences to you and to your family.

      Take care.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      Anne Laurie

      January 4, 2023 at 4:52 am

      @patrick II:  Condolences on your loss.

      May the thought of her soon bring a smile to your lips, before it brings a tear to your eye.

      Reply
    27. 27.

      Shalimar

      January 4, 2023 at 5:01 am

      @NotMax: There is an article at Fortune interviewing a longtime Tesla bear who says the stock will be down to $24.33 by the end of the year.  He specifically says the high valuation in the past was in the expectation of rapid sales growth, but actual new orders last quarter were only 250,000, which means the only reason Tesla had positive growth in 2022 was their backlog of orders.

      I have been a Tesla sceptic for years so it doesn’t take much to convince me, but he makes a great argument

      On the other hand, I would have an EV now if they were under $30k.  The Fisker sounds promising.

      Reply
    28. 28.

      Amir Khalid

      January 4, 2023 at 5:12 am

      @patrick II:

      It sounds like your mother had a peaceful passing. My condolences on your loss.

      Reply
    29. 29.

      NotMax

      January 4, 2023 at 5:13 am

      @Shalimar

      Too, a lot of Teslas are leased rather than sold*, which if so bodes for being hip deep in previous generation inventory a few years hence.

      *Anecdata as everyone I know who drives one is leasing it.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      YY_Sima Qian

      January 4, 2023 at 6:27 am

      @patrick II: I am so sorry to hear your loss! My condolence.

      Reply
    31. 31.

      prostratedragon

      January 4, 2023 at 6:43 am

      @patrick II:  My condolences.

      Reply
    32. 32.

      Matt McIrvin

      January 4, 2023 at 6:58 am

      @Yutsano: I love it when people ask Elon Musk why his company’s stock is tanking harder than everyone else’s, and he gives reasons why everyone else’s stock should be tanking. I hope this doesn’t actually work on anyone.

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Geo Wilcox

      January 4, 2023 at 7:11 am

      @patrick II: I am sorry for your loss.

      Reply
    34. 34.

      Tom Levenson

      January 4, 2023 at 7:48 am

      @Shalimar: dead thread, but the Chevy Bolt is well under $30K and its stablemate, the Bolt EUV is right around that mark.

      Jonathan Gitlin. The car editor over at Ars Technica, thinks very well of them.

      Reply
    35. 35.

      Tom Levenson

      January 4, 2023 at 7:49 am

      @patrick II: I am very sorry to hear of your loss. May her memory be a blessing.

      Reply
    36. 36.

      Yutsano

      January 4, 2023 at 8:17 am

      @patrick II: ​ Oh no good sir. May she live on in your memories, and may her next existence be gentle.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      EmbraceYourInnerCrone

      January 4, 2023 at 8:20 am

      @patrick II: I am sorry for the loss of your mother.  I am glad for her that it was peaceful and with her family by her side.

      Reply
    38. 38.

      SFAW

      January 4, 2023 at 8:35 am

      @patrick II: ​ Condolences on your mother’s passing. That she was kind, and loved by many, tells me she was a good person — but I knew that already, because you’re her son. (i.e., apple, tree​)

      Reply
    39. 39.

      J R in WV

      January 4, 2023 at 9:12 am

      @patrick II: ​

      My mother passed away tonight. She was 100 years old. She went peacefully in her bed with my brother and sister holding her hands. She was kind and loved by many. I will miss her.

      So sorry for your loss — 100 is such a large number, she really managed to run her score up there.

      I am also glad her passing was peaceful and with your siblings there for her, we all know you were there in spirit. Take care of yourself right now. And Know that all the jackals are feeling for you.

      Reply
    40. 40.

      Ella in New Mexico

      January 4, 2023 at 9:59 am

      Zhu, who was born in China but now holds a New Zealand passport, joined Tesla in 2014. Before that he was a project manager at a company established by his MBA classmates at Duke University, advising Chinese contractors working on infrastructure projects in Africa.

      In other words, its very likely a Chinese agent/spy/operative (or potential one) who’s been lurking in the wings, waitng for the right moment will now run Tesla.

      The Chinese relationships he’s embracing are not goint to go well with the type of Americans who could consider buying one of his dumpster fires of a vehicle. He’s doomed. Which means he’s liely going to move closer to China for his funding and business deals.

      I think it’s time for the US Government to get VERY concerned about the national security implications of doing business with any company Elon Musk owns.

      Reply
    41. 41.

      Tenar Arha

      January 4, 2023 at 10:08 am

      @patrick II: I’m sorry to hear that. May her memory be a blessing for you.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      YY_Sima Qian

      January 4, 2023 at 11:24 am

      @Ella in New Mexico: What is your evidence that Zhu is a Chinese agent, other than the fact that he was born in China?

      Are we really that ready to embrace McCarthyism now?

      Elon Musk has never been known as an “operations” guy, & his reputation as an “ideas” guy has been greatly inflated. Tesla’s Shanghai Gigafactory is known to be much more efficient than the US facilities, & the speed at which it went from a green field to mass production, & realizing further capacity expansion, has been impressive. Tesla has also been selling quite well in China. I don’t think it is surprising that Musk might tap the person who has overseen the successful China operation to lead improving operational efficiency in the US plants, as well as starting up the new Gigafactory in Germany. Of course, Musk may be overly optimistic, as what worked in China may not work in the US or Germany. For a potential parallel, TSMC is certainly struggling w/ cultural clash as it tries to start up its new chip plant in Arizona, & TSMC leadership expects the AZ plant to be uncompetitive (cost wise) against its operations in Taiwan for the foreseeable future.

      While I think Tesla vehicles are overhyped & overpriced for the quality of design & build (not to mention potential if rare fire hazards associated w/ nickel-cobalt-aluminum & nickel-cobalt-maganese batteries), it is still the most popular EV brand in the world. It’s greatest emerging competition (outside of the N. America) are in fact the burgeoning Chinese EV makers (both state & privately owned).

      Reply
    43. 43.

      azlib

      January 4, 2023 at 11:28 am

      Patty Murray is 3rd in line in the Presidential succession.  The Speaker’s post is currently vacant.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      kindness

      January 4, 2023 at 11:36 am

      @🐾BillinGlendaleCA: Bakersfield it is.  Sac is too cosmopolitain for Kevin.  Bakersfield is California’s Oklahoma after all.

      Reply
    45. 45.

      Paul in KY

      January 4, 2023 at 12:19 pm

      @patrick II: Patrick, I’m so glad she got 100 years and that it was peaceful. A long life, well lived!

      My mother will turn 98 in a few days.

      Reply
    46. 46.

      Kayla Rudbek

      January 4, 2023 at 12:44 pm

      @patrick II: I’m very sorry for your loss.

      Reply

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