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TGIFriday Morning Open Thread: #NotAllFridaysTheThirteenth

by Anne Laurie|  January 13, 20239:33 am| 210 Comments

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January 13, #Freedom Defenders' Day in Lithuania. #OTD in 1991 #Lithuanian people stood unarmed against Soviet tanks, defending ???? independence and freedom. We commemorate all victims and #StandWithUkraine which defends ???? and our freedom today. pic.twitter.com/uNARUupzcX

— #Lithuania ???? #StandWithUkraine ???? (@Lithuania) January 12, 2023

https://t.co/4Nuhal0mW8 pic.twitter.com/VrQUIQZCjz

— Peter Wolf (@peterawolf) January 11, 2023


For the sixth month in a row, yearly inflation is down.

It might be rising in economies around the world, but it's coming down here. And gas prices, food, and more are following.

That adds up to a break for families and proof that my plan is working.

— President Biden (@POTUS) January 12, 2023

Hmm. Weird.

GOP Congress has said it has to cut Social Security & Medicare b/c of growing deficits.

ALMOST like they're as honest as George Santos. https://t.co/v4wmmm7sAN

— Jesse Ferguson (@JesseFFerguson) January 13, 2023

Another pick-me-up before the holiday (for some of us) weekend:

Smith is looking at the whole sprawling, festering vista of criminality, from seditious conspiracy, to slander and libel, to common, run-of-the-mill Trumping. https://t.co/uCnRTiSzkZ

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) January 13, 2023


Once again, Mr. Pierce saves me from having to write up my own report…

While the clamor and noise of the snipe hunt getting underway rose to a roar this week, Jack Smith, whom Merrick Garland has tasked with overseeing the investigation(s) into the former president*, went long with his subpoena power on the apparent—and entirely logical—assumption that everything about the previous presidency was, in one way or another, crooked.

The story largely was buried, but its scope is vast and encyclopedic. From the Washington Post, which did not hype this story anywhere near as much as it deserved.

The subpoena seeks any communications or information about Dominion and Smartmatic, two voting technology companies that were subjected to a barrage of false conspiracy theories floated by advisers to President Donald Trump. That request seems designed to gather what campaign officials might have been saying privately at the time Trump backers were publicly disparaging those firms in the wake of Joe Biden’s 2020 victory.

… In other words, Smith is looking at the whole sprawling, festering vista of criminality, from seditious conspiracy, to slander and libel, to common, run-of-the-mill Trumping. Questions abound. Did any of these entities pay to suborn perjury before various investigations, including the January 6 committee? Did the former president* treat the money that came in ostensibly to fight “election fraud” as a petty cashbox?

Small wonder that, down in Florida, El Caudillo del Mar-A-Lago is birthing bovines all over the parlor (i.e., on his social media platform)…

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    1. 1.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 13, 2023 at 9:35 am

      Blech.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      NotMax

      January 13, 2023 at 9:38 am

      A little music for a Friday the 13th.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      Baud

      January 13, 2023 at 9:38 am

      I want Trump in jail too, but slander and libel aren’t criminal.

      Reply
    4. 4.

      Michael Bersin

      January 13, 2023 at 9:39 am

      Mark Alford (r), the right wingnut former newsreader who replaced Vicky Hartzler (she lost in the republican Senate primary in August) in Missouri’s 4th Congressional District, wrote a letter.

      This you?

      He’s a maroon.

      Reply
    5. 5.

      gene108

      January 13, 2023 at 9:41 am

      I believe Jack Smith is doing something productive, when politicians involved in the coup attempt or people close to TFG, like Eastman, are convicted of anything.

      I’m open to Smith busting one of them for unpaid parking tickets that require payment of said tickets, a $250 fine, and 40 hours of community service, because I doubt any of them will face such harsh consequences.

      I’d like to be wrong.

      Reply
    6. 6.

      Baud

      January 13, 2023 at 9:41 am

      Via Reddir

      THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE IS FINDING TOO MANY EARLY GALAXIES

      Reply
    7. 7.

      SiubhanDuinne

      January 13, 2023 at 9:43 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      Good morning, Sunshine 🌞

      Reply
    8. 8.

      WereBear

      January 13, 2023 at 9:43 am

      I wrote this post in honor of the day:

      Friday the 13th is a Myth

      Reply
    9. 9.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 13, 2023 at 9:46 am

      @Baud:

      THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE IS FINDING TOO MANY EARLY GALAXIES 

      Making Hubble look like a lazy ass!

      Reply
    10. 10.

      BlueGuitarist

      January 13, 2023 at 9:47 am

      @NotMax:

      Thought you might appreciate this:

      Fibber on the Roof, George Santos as Tevye


      https://mobile.twitter.com/NormOrnstein/status/1613569689984110594

      Reply
    11. 11.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 13, 2023 at 9:49 am

      @WereBear: Do we get mythical powers for the day?

      (I did click through. 😁)

      Reply
    12. 12.

      Ken

      January 13, 2023 at 9:56 am

      Pierce: El Caudillo del Mar-A-Lago is birthing bovines all over the parlor (i.e., on his social media platform)…

      I must correct Mr. Pierce.  Parler is not TFG’s social media platform, although since (according to what I hear) it is a lunatic asylum full of racists and fascists, it is an easy mistake to make.

      Reply
    13. 13.

      different-church-lady

      January 13, 2023 at 9:57 am

      @Baud: PLEASE ELIMINATE THREE. I AM NOT A CRACKPOT.

      Reply
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      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 13, 2023 at 10:04 am

      @Ken: I wouldn’t know how to find trump’s knock-off twitter, but Lawrence O’Donnell showed one last night, wherein The Beast wondered what Jack Smith’s real name is, and noted that he’s best friends with Andrew Weissman. Reminded me of how trump used to remind everyone that Jon Stewart’s real name was Liebowitz. Get it everybody? GET IT?

      Reply
    15. 15.

      Ken

      January 13, 2023 at 10:04 am

      @Baud: Oh great, the creationists had just settled down to a low roar after the last unexpected astronomical discovery.

      Reply
    16. 16.

      different-church-lady

      January 13, 2023 at 10:05 am

      Ah, yes… Friday the 13th, three years ago: I went to work and the tiny little dry hack of a cough began. I spent the day hiding it, then bought all the frozen food and toilet paper I could get my hands on, with everyone around me resolutely attempting to not freak out over the fact that we had collectively realized the entire world was about to shut down.

      Two weeks later I was wearing an oxygen mask.

      When you believe in things that you don’t understand…

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Roger Moore

      January 13, 2023 at 10:06 am

      @Baud:

      THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE IS FINDING TOO MANY EARLY GALAXIES

      Is it just me, or does this sound like a NYTimesPitchbot headline?

      Reply
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      UncleEbeneezer

      January 13, 2023 at 10:07 am

      @gene108: Great, then go away and stop repeating this ad nauseum.

      Reply
    19. 19.

      different-church-lady

      January 13, 2023 at 10:09 am

      @gene108: I’d like to be wrong.

      There are much easier ways of doing that.

      Reply
    20. 20.

      Delk

      January 13, 2023 at 10:10 am

      RIP Robbie Bachman, drummer for BTO. Crummy month so far.

      Reply
    21. 21.

      different-church-lady

      January 13, 2023 at 10:11 am

      @Roger Moore: Just add “Here’s why this is bad news for Joe Biden”

      Reply
    22. 22.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 13, 2023 at 10:13 am

      @Roger Moore: Hahaha, it totally does sound like something stupid whining that the FTFNYT would write.

      Reply
    23. 23.

      sab

      January 13, 2023 at 10:13 am

      @different-church-lady: If every bad behavior was criminal rather than tortious, then companies like Dominion would have no chance of compensation/restitution, and we would all have to rely on prosecutions for any sort of justice. We have seen how well that works in modern America.

      Reply
    24. 24.

      UncleEbeneezer

      January 13, 2023 at 10:15 am

      I know Justice is moving along well because:

      1.) Trump is freaking out (number one and most important indicator)

      2.) GOP is trying desperately to change the subject (with the help of Russian bots, no doubt) and media is downplaying/ignoring the magnitude of Smith’s investigation which is moving to the people who helped fund 1/6 (another one of those “but why isn’t DOJ doing X?” Things that is now happening while the people who breathlessly demanded it (including many here) are now suddenly not interested anymore.)

      3.) All the underpants-wetters are griping about Garland (serving as useful idiots for GOP/Russian bots)

      Reply
    25. 25.

      Leto

      January 13, 2023 at 10:20 am

      (WaPo) Trump Organization sentenced to pay $1.6 million penalty in tax fraud case

      NEW YORK — The Trump Organization was sentenced to pay $1.6 million in fines to the state on Friday — the maximum allowed by law — following its December conviction on tax crimes carried out by two of its longtime executives.
      The Manhattan District Attorney’s Office argued for the top possible financial punishment for the former president’s private company, describing egregious and deliberate long-term conduct that both benefited former president Donald Trump’s namesake company and the executives involved in the cheating.
      “The sheer magnitude of this fraud merits the largest financial sanction authorized by law,” Assistant District Attorney Joshua Steinglass argued at the company’s sentencing.
      Longtime Trump Organization finance chief Allen Weisselberg was the star witness against his company. He pleaded guilty in August to 15 felonies and agreed to testify in exchange for a significantly reduced sentence of five months in jail and five years probation which was imposed in court on Tuesday. He also paid the state more than $2 million in back taxes, fines and interest.
      Lawyers for the company disputed the top amount of monetary penalties allowed and that said it will appeal the conviction.​

      Edit: as always, we need to adjust the law to increase penalties.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      Matt McIrvin

      January 13, 2023 at 10:21 am

      The big media are acting like they see blood in the water and are out to get Biden on multiple fronts, so the improving approval numbers are kind of a surprise.

      Reply
    27. 27.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 13, 2023 at 10:23 am

      MeidasTouch @MeidasTouch 4m

      BREAKING: The Trump Organization has been sentenced to pay $1.6 million in fines and penalties following its conviction on tax crimes. This is the maximum amount allowed by law.

      New YorkCNN — 
      The Trump Organization was fined $1.6 million – the maximum possible penalty – by a New York judge Friday for running a decade-long tax fraud scheme, a symbolic moment because it is the only judgment for a criminal conviction that has come close to former President Donald Trump.
      Two Trump entities, The Trump Corp. and Trump Payroll Corp., were convicted last month of 17 felonies, including tax fraud and falsifying business records.
      Under New York law, the most the companies can be fined is about $1.6 million, a penalty the Trump Organization can easily afford.

      I’m sure the usual suspects are raging at Tish James for being meek, a secret Republican and /gasp/ an institutionalist!

      Reply
    28. 28.

      Elizabelle

      January 13, 2023 at 10:23 am

      @Delk:   I know.  Jeff Beck, and I am very sad about Lisa Marie Presley.  Only 54, and seemed like a decent person.

      Reply
    29. 29.

      Steeplejack

      January 13, 2023 at 10:24 am

      @Ken:

      I must correct Mr. Pierce. Parler is not TFG’s social media platform [. . .].

      [Cracking knuckles] Pierce didn’t make a typo or misidentify Trump’s social-media platform. He was being rhetorical. A parlor is the place on a dairy farm where cows are milked. Hence his reach for “birthing bovines all over the parlor.” I.e., Trump is having a cow, man.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      Matt McIrvin

      January 13, 2023 at 10:25 am

      @Ken: Every story about an unexpected result in cosmology brings a crowd of people saying “they’re just a corrupt priesthood piling epicycles on epicycles, here’s my true and correct theory of how the universe is a box of Brillo pads,” and it all sounds extremely familiar. A steady diet of anomalies and mysteries is crucial to maintain the health of any field of science.

      Reply
    31. 31.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 13, 2023 at 10:27 am

      Volkswagen In A Field!

      Reply
    32. 32.

      Steeplejack

      January 13, 2023 at 10:29 am

      @Roger Moore:

      Yes, but the Pitchbot would phrase it as a provocative question: “Is the James Webb space telescope finding too many early galaxies?”

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Leto

      January 13, 2023 at 10:32 am

      @mrmoshpotato: ​ Glad at least one of them is wearing a body cam…

      Was this the sequel the original, John Cole goes for a ride, needed? I feel like it lacks… something…

      Reply
    34. 34.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 13, 2023 at 10:33 am

      Yesterday, I sent an email to my state rep (female, GOP, Cris Dinkins) about the new dress code for women in the state legislature. I said something along the lines that I hoped she had her hijabs. She replied that I should do some research before commenting.

      Sarcasm, how does it work?

      Reply
    35. 35.

      Betty Cracker

      January 13, 2023 at 10:34 am

      A squall line blew through here and woke me up in the middle of the night, so I streamed a truly terrible, so-bad-it’s-good horror/sci-fi film from the 1960s, Terror Beneath the Sea, on AMC. The plot involved an underwater kingdom ruled by a mad scientist who created a race of scaly amphibious humanoids to serve as his goons. But the really unbelievable part came when the human protagonist couple returned to land from SCUBA diving and walked around on the beach with their fins, weight belts and tanks on. I mean, who does that?!?

      Reply
    36. 36.

      Hoodie

      January 13, 2023 at 10:35 am

      @Matt McIrvin: One of the media’s favorite tropes is bringing down the star, a kind of low rent Othello.  They got to do that with Bush, Obama, Hillary and Trump. I do wonder if Biden kind of foils that by being a doddering old grandpa who nobody really expects much from.  His approval rating seems to be mostly tied to the price of regular unleaded and what stupid, embarrassing, time-and-energy-wasting thing the GOP is currently up to.  People start liking Joe more when it looks like the world is not coming to an end and the alternative is the equivalent of a guy with a shopping cart yelling at random pedestrians.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      Carlo Graziani

      January 13, 2023 at 10:36 am

      @Baud: Technically, “too many late-type galaxies.” More then they expected have settled, low-disruption dynamical disk shapes.

      For context, it’s a surprise compared to model-based expectations of this previously poorly-observed population, but those models are so full of uncertainties and fudge factors describing poorly-understood physics that this is not going to be a blockbuster discovery—certainly nothing like the shock of the 1998 discovery of cosmic acceleration (“dark enetgy”) in Type Ia supernova data. They just learned that they are fudging the galaxy formation models wrong.

      Reply
    38. 38.

      narya

      January 13, 2023 at 10:37 am

      Incidentally, DougJ got a shoutout on the Strict Scrutiny podcast on their year-end show! The fabulous hosts were making various recommendations, and the Pitchout was one of them.

      Reply
    39. 39.

      Amir Khalid

      January 13, 2023 at 10:37 am

      @Delk:

      Time marches on. The rock’n’rollers of the 1960s and 1970s — most are in their seventies now. Sir Mick Jagger turns 80 in a few months. We who grew up then are now watching our musical heroes arrive at the winter of their lives.

      Reply
    40. 40.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 13, 2023 at 10:38 am

      @mrmoshpotato:

      Just like a Suburu, Oh yeah, where’s the mustard?

      Reply
    41. 41.

      Miss Bianca

      January 13, 2023 at 10:42 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: So, she’s ok with having her dress code regulated by her male peers?

      I mean, Serena Joy didn’t really have much of a sense of humor, either.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      BlueGuitarist

      January 13, 2023 at 10:43 am

      @different-church-lady:

      Stevie Wonder and Jeff Beck, Superstition

      https://youtu.be/_zz1RzTDzoE

      Reply
    43. 43.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 13, 2023 at 10:48 am

      @Miss Bianca: I replied with something along those lines but haven’t checked my email yet. I would bet she replied again as she strikes me as the type who just have to get the last word in.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 13, 2023 at 10:48 am

      @Betty Cracker: Does it beat Tentacles (1977)?

      Reply
    45. 45.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 10:55 am

      @mrmoshpotato: Nothing compares to The Giant Claw (1957)

      https://youtu.be/zoxPoQKQae0

      Reply
    46. 46.

      Sure Lurkalot

      January 13, 2023 at 10:56 am

      Here’s some good news! Thanks, Joe.

      Breaking News: The federal budget deficit fell to $1.4 trillion for the 2022 calendar year, down from $2.6 trillion a year ago, the Treasury Department said.

      A trillion here, a trillion there, pretty soon we’ll be talking real money.

      Reply
    47. 47.

      UncleEbeneezer

      January 13, 2023 at 10:57 am

      @Hoodie: You forgot Bill Clinton.  That (along with thwarting Hillary’s chances in 2016) is the wet dream they are desperate to repeat.  Of course they always handled Republicans (Reagan, Bush, W, Trump) with kid gloves.  Just think about the scandals from that list and how the MSM minimized/normalized them…

      Reply
    48. 48.

      WereBear

      January 13, 2023 at 11:00 am

      @mrmoshpotato: As always, I can sell you something I’ll define as that.🤣

      Reply
    49. 49.

      NotMax

      January 13, 2023 at 11:00 am

      @Betty Cracker

      Compressed air-robics.

      :)

      Reply
    50. 50.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 11:00 am

      Fittingly for Friday the 13th, Politico Magazine has an article titled, Brian Kemp and the Electric Car: A Love Story.” The reporter describes Kemp’s inaugiral speech promise that by the end of his new term  Georga would be the “electrical mobility capital of America.”

      A few days before the speech, South Korean company Hanwha announced plans for a massive solar panel facility in Georgia.

          It was the latest in a multibillion-dollar series of economic development  trophies Kemp has claimed in the energy sector, including immense investments linked to the electric vehicle supply chain from conpanies like Hyundai, Rivian, and SK Battery.

      Kemp is agnostic on the cause of global warming, but not on whether electric vehicles are a good business for his state to be part of.

      And Evs are cool, Kemp says, advising the reporter to get behind the wheel of one “and feel the zip.” Kemp said of Ford’s F-150 Lightning: “you’re gonna have a lot of Republicans driving that truck.”

      With any luck, this link won’t work:

       

      https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/01/13/brian-kemp-electric-car-georgia-00077579

      Reply
    51. 51.

      The Moar You Know

      January 13, 2023 at 11:00 am

      RIP Robbie Bachman, drummer for BTO. Crummy month so far.

      @Delk: lot more crummy months in store over the next few years for those who are fans of late 60s/early 70s rock music.  The clock on that generation of folks is running out, and most of them did not exactly maintain healthy lifestyles.

      Reply
    52. 52.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 11:01 am

      @Baud: A galaxy here, a galaxy there, pretty soon we’ll be talking a real universe

      Reply
    53. 53.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 13, 2023 at 11:02 am

      @kalakal: Oh wow!  That looks hilarious!

      Reply
    54. 54.

      WereBear

      January 13, 2023 at 11:02 am

      @different-church-lady: Best Friday the 13th story. With a happy ending, I hope.

      Reply
    55. 55.

      UncleEbeneezer

      January 13, 2023 at 11:03 am

      Writing from lovely Mérida, México.  Yesterday we visited the small but fantastic Museo De Arte Popular (folk art), got the most amazing cochinita pibil tacos at the market San Benito and had cocktails on a rooftop bar overlooking the main plaza.  Rooftop bars are the worst!  Gorgeous view but in our experience the drinks/food are overpriced and mediocre at best.  This morning we finally got the tortas de lechon negro from the vendor across our street.  They were 🔥🔥🔥 and only $3!

      Reply
    56. 56.

      SFBayAreaGal

      January 13, 2023 at 11:03 am

      @NotMax: Great song. I saw Lynyrd Skynyrd in 1977 at a Day on the Green concert.

      Reply
    57. 57.

      Hoodie

      January 13, 2023 at 11:04 am

      @UncleEbeneezer: Just didn’t go back that far.  They did the same to Carter.   GOP presidents haven’t been immune to it, it’s just that their screwups were actually real (Iran/Contra, Iraq War and economic crisis, COVID disaster, etc.)  The media doesn’t care either way, but that makes it problematic because, sometimes, the media plays a positive role while, at other times, it’s just empty careerism.  I wonder if anyone has done a comprehensive treatment of the role of media careerism in American politics.

      Reply
    58. 58.

      Matt McIrvin

      January 13, 2023 at 11:04 am

      @Amir Khalid: Also, seeing a lot of rueful jokes/anecdotes about people getting Jeff Beck confused with Beck. Who is, by now, no spring chicken himself.

      Reply
    59. 59.

      WereBear

      January 13, 2023 at 11:06 am

      @Hoodie: Hearst got his own war.

      Reply
    60. 60.

      NotMax

      January 13, 2023 at 11:06 am

      Of two minds when it comes to self-flying commercial planes.

      Not talking here about the usual autopilot while airborne.

      Reply
    61. 61.

      Ken

      January 13, 2023 at 11:07 am

      @kalakal: There’s a sad story about The Giant Claw. The actors thought they were making a serious science-fiction movie. They didn’t know that the studio had saved money by outsourcing the special effects*. They found out at the premiere, when the audience burst into howls of laughter when the bird first appeared.

      * Despite appearances, the effects were done by a legitimate animation company, not a class of second graders.

      Reply
    62. 62.

      SFBayAreaGal

      January 13, 2023 at 11:07 am

      @Delk: Dang, I’m really starting to feel my age.

      Reply
    63. 63.

      Matt McIrvin

      January 13, 2023 at 11:09 am

      @Hoodie: The tragedy/scandal arc didn’t really work with Obama. He got hit by the post-2008 recovery taking longer than people wanted, and by his election not eliminating racial strife forever, but he went out fairly popular, personally speaking–Hillary Clinton just became the main hate-focus (again).

      Reply
    64. 64.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 13, 2023 at 11:10 am

      New photography techniques reveal the Baltic’s eerie wrecks – in pictures

      Really cool pics. Also, this gives me the opportunity to once again plug a favorite book of mine: Shadow Divers.

      Reply
    65. 65.

      Hoodie

      January 13, 2023 at 11:10 am

      @Geminid: Kemp is the type of GOP pol that is particularly dangerous because he’s not stupid.

      Reply
    66. 66.

      ...now I try to be amused

      January 13, 2023 at 11:10 am

      @The Moar You Know:

      lot more crummy months in store over the next few years for those who are fans of late 60s/early 70s rock music.  The clock on that generation of folks is running out, and most of them did not exactly maintain healthy lifestyles.

      Of course the ones with really unhealthy lifestyles are in the 27 Club.

      I’ll be worried when Robert Fripp drops. He does maintain a healthy lifestyle.

      Reply
    67. 67.

      UncleEbeneezer

      January 13, 2023 at 11:12 am

      @Hoodie: Was Nixon treated appropriately or did they go easy on him too?  Not sure of your age, I was born in 1973 so Nixon was just before my sentience.

      Reply
    68. 68.

      Matt McIrvin

      January 13, 2023 at 11:14 am

      @Amir Khalid: Paul McCartney found out whether they’d feed him when he was 64 quite some time ago.

      Reply
    69. 69.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 11:19 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: Those photos are amazing. The worst ever ship sinking took place in the Baltic, the Wilhelm Gusthof in 1945. I really wouldn’t like to see photographs of that wreck

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Wilhelm_Gustloff

      I’ll have to read that book as well

      Reply
    70. 70.

      Matt McIrvin

      January 13, 2023 at 11:19 am

      @UncleEbeneezer: The mainstream media went absolutely apeshit on Nixon once it was clear that Watergate was the real deal. And they coasted on that reputation for decades of fawning access journalism.

      Reply
    71. 71.

      Mike in NC

      January 13, 2023 at 11:22 am

      Read that the House GOP plans some tribute to Trump, perhaps a formal apology for his being impeached. After all, most of them supported the attempted coup on 1/6/2021.

      Trump is also to attend some campaign event in Columbia, SC later this month. I’ve been there twice. It’s the state capital and also the closest I’ve even been to North Korea.

      Reply
    72. 72.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 13, 2023 at 11:23 am

      @kalakal: I’ve read of the Wilhelm Gusthof, that death toll is horrifying.

      Reply
    73. 73.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 11:25 am

      @…now I try to be amused:

      How Ginger Baker made it to 80 I’ll never know, Eric “I’ve given up heroin, I’m now on 2 bottles of brandy a day” Clapton was the abstemious one in Cream.

      Reply
    74. 74.

      Hoodie

      January 13, 2023 at 11:25 am

      @Matt McIrvin: Yeah, but Hillary represented a continuation of Obama, kind of like Al Gore did for Clinton.  Bill and Barack could maintain their popularity because they no longer had power; their chosen successors took the crap instead.  The media works from a script where the media always ends up being superior and their mistakes are forgotten.  Look how they have memory-holed their promotion of Trump and Bush.  The conservatives were always somewhat correct in their criticism of the media, but they just drew the wrong conclusions for their own nefarious partisan reasons.   The media is not in the bag for anyone but themselves, which is no big surprise since there are nice perks to be had if you’re a media star.  It just pays for them to kiss conservatives’ asses under normal conditions because of the nature of their bosses.  They only turn on conservatives when it pays to do so, i.e., when conservatives really screw up and their bosses feel threatened and the public can’t help but notice.

      Reply
    75. 75.

      gvg

      January 13, 2023 at 11:25 am

      @Matt McIrvin: I think it might be caused by getting a Republican house. It’s easy and safe to complain and dislike the democrats especially our leader when we have total control of the government. Get a glimpse of the crazy party driving a little bit, and complaining about the democrats suddenly doesn’t feel comfortable anymore.

      The crazy party is totally full of people who are unable to shut up and do anything quietly. All of them think they need to be the center of attention. The public is going to get a show.

      Reply
    76. 76.

      Seanly

      January 13, 2023 at 11:26 am

      Very happy to share my birthday w/ Lithunian independence!

      Reply
    77. 77.

      Matt McIrvin

      January 13, 2023 at 11:28 am

      @Hoodie: Looking again at 538’s presidential approval chart, one thing I notice is just that the frequency of polls is way down since the midterm election. That could mean fewer fly-by-night outfits trying to influence polling averages, could also just indicate that the salience of partisan politics is lower right now, so people are reverting to default attitudes.

      Reply
    78. 78.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 11:30 am

      @Ken: That is sad, I remember when I saw it thinking that the gap between the FX and the rest of the film was jarring, most crummy SF movies of that time were consistently crummy throughout

      Reply
    79. 79.

      Matt McIrvin

      January 13, 2023 at 11:31 am

      @gvg: I thought Baud had said that general approval of Republicans was way up though, which would suggest that most people are just not thinking much about politics right now.

      Reply
    80. 80.

      zhena gogolia

      January 13, 2023 at 11:33 am

      @kalakal: It looks great! I don’t know how I’ve missed it.

      Reply
    81. 81.

      Steeplejack

      January 13, 2023 at 11:34 am

      @Seanly:

      Happy birthday! 🥂

      Reply
    82. 82.

      Baud

      January 13, 2023 at 11:34 am

      @Matt McIrvin:

      I said no such thing.

      Reply
    83. 83.

      UncleEbeneezer

      January 13, 2023 at 11:37 am

      @Matt McIrvin: sounds right.  And I’m guessing that’s part of when the Liberal Media howling began, causing the media to go easy on Republicans ever since.

      Reply
    84. 84.

      Ken

      January 13, 2023 at 11:37 am

      @Matt McIrvin: Paul McCartney found out whether they’d feed him when he was 64 quite some time ago.

      “You’re a billionaire and titled, of course you’ll be fed.”

      Reply
    85. 85.

      Matt McIrvin

      January 13, 2023 at 11:37 am

      @Baud: Maybe I was confusing you with someone else.

      (The closest I can actually find is the generic Congressional ballot swinging Republican just *before* the election, which, you know, is no surprise since they did take the House, if not by much. People haven’t really been polling these things much since November.)

      Reply
    86. 86.

      Matt McIrvin

      January 13, 2023 at 11:38 am

      @Ken: Just realized he turned 64 right around the time my daughter was born; she should have a driver’s license soon.

      Reply
    87. 87.

      lashonharangue

      January 13, 2023 at 11:39 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: I have a few hundred dives scuba diving. So not a beginner or really experienced. I read that book and it scared me big time. No way. More dangerous than cave diving and that is crazy dangerous.

      Reply
    88. 88.

      different-church-lady

      January 13, 2023 at 11:41 am

      @Betty Cracker:

      The plot involved an underwater kingdom ruled by a mad scientist who created a race of scaly amphibious humanoids to serve as his goons.

      But enough about Elon Musk…

      Reply
    89. 89.

      Frankensteinbeck

      January 13, 2023 at 11:41 am

      @Baud:

      The first galaxies formed in still-growing dark matter halos

      This is hilarious as Hell to me.  Three fourths of the universe is made of matter that isn’t any kind we know, most of which we can’t detect other than ‘well, something produced this huge gravity effect on galaxies’, and physicists and astronomers toddle along making theories and going “This is fine.”  It’s extra hilarious because the theories work so well, and we know so much, and we understand everything about the room really well except what’s under that elephant-sized tarp.​

      Reply
    90. 90.

      NotMax

      January 13, 2023 at 11:42 am

      @Seanly

      Have a felicitous day!

      Reply
    91. 91.

      Delk

      January 13, 2023 at 11:43 am

      Yay! The Giant Claw is on tubi.  Guess I know what I’m doing this weekend.

      Reply
    92. 92.

      different-church-lady

      January 13, 2023 at 11:44 am

      @Sure Lurkalot: But but but DEFICITS ARE GOOOOOOOODDDDD!!!! (Shitlibs everywhere)

      Reply
    93. 93.

      BenCisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️

      January 13, 2023 at 11:45 am

      @Michael Bersin: An ULTRAMAROON!

      Reply
    94. 94.

      Frankensteinbeck

      January 13, 2023 at 11:45 am

      @Betty Cracker: ​

      But the really unbelievable part came when the human protagonist couple returned to land from SCUBA diving and walked around on the beach with their fins, weight belts and tanks on. I mean, who does that?!?

      Definitely not me. I have definitely not done that, or SCUBA dived at all, or destroyed any irreplaceable historical artifacts while diving, or violated any local laws or international treaties by touching, stealing, blowing up, or licking said artifacts. Which I would have done on the surface and not underwater, if I had done any of this, which as I just said, I definitely did not do.

      Reply
    95. 95.

      different-church-lady

      January 13, 2023 at 11:45 am

      @Frankensteinbeck: ​
        I can’t even understand my smartphone. So that shit?

      Reply
    96. 96.

      zhena gogolia

      January 13, 2023 at 11:48 am

      @different-church-lady: lolol

      Reply
    97. 97.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 11:50 am

      @Geminid: And if portraying Brian Kemp as a forward thinking politician on his way to Davos wasn’t bad enough, Politico Magazine also has an article on Notorious Blue Dog Josh Gottheimer (Trigger Warning; Bipartisanship!).

      The premise of the title, “The real power in Congress isn’t where Matt Gaetz thinks it is,” is speculative. But “Josh Gottheimer believes his [Problem Solvers] caucus is going to play a key role in getting important bills passed in a narrowly divided caucus.”

      Such speculation aside, I found the article worthwhile for its behind-the-scenes look at the precarious process that lead to Gottheimer and Progressive Caucus Chair Pramila Jayapal standing next to each other and announcing an agreement to move forward on seperate Infrastructure and BBB Bills, in November, 2021.

      There is also material on Gottheimer’s relations with Joe Manchin, Hakeem Jeffries and Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.), Gottheimer’s Problem Solvers counterpart.

      This Caucus sounds a little like the Fight Club: members don’t like to talk about it, or at least, they discourage leaks to the press. Another rule is that they won’t endorse each other’s general election opponents. Thus, in the last cycle, Republican Fred Upton turned down an endorsement request from Democrat Elissa Slotkin’s opponent.

      A link?

      https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/josh-gottheimer-congress-power-player-0007757

      Oh well. I’m 0 for 2 linking today. I guess I’ll blame it on it being Friday the 13th.

      Reply
    98. 98.

      geg6

      January 13, 2023 at 11:52 am

      @UncleEbeneezer: ​
       
      Exactly right.

      Reply
    99. 99.

      different-church-lady

      January 13, 2023 at 11:53 am

      @…now I try to be amused: This may sound odd, but I think Fripp is one of the most spiritual musicians we’ve ever seen. He taps into something deep and mysterious and inexplicable, and brings it into the world, and can be just as awed by it as any of the rest of us.

      Reply
    100. 100.

      Michael Bersin

      January 13, 2023 at 11:53 am

      @BenCisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️:  He’s an ignoranimus…

      Reply
    101. 101.

      Ken

      January 13, 2023 at 11:55 am

      @Frankensteinbeck: we understand everything about the room really well except what’s under that elephant-sized tarp.​

      Lovecraftian eldritch horrors.

      (There have been a few science-fiction or fantasy stories using that as a premise, with at least one making the obvious connection between 26-dimensional string theories and Yog-Sothoth.)

      Reply
    102. 102.

      geg6

      January 13, 2023 at 11:55 am

      @Betty Cracker: ​
       
      Never left the fins or tanks on but I did once forget to take the weight belt off. It was no big deal as we were on the beach (in Cozumel) and, actually, I got a good workout from it.

      Reply
    103. 103.

      Brachiator

      January 13, 2023 at 11:56 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      Yesterday, I sent an email to my state rep (female, GOP, Cris Dinkins) about the new dress code for women in the state legislature.

      Is there also a dress code for men? Is there some directive about “modesty” or “professionalism?”

      I said something along the lines that I hoped she had her hijabs.

      Very droll.

      Reply
    104. 104.

      BigJimSlade

      January 13, 2023 at 11:56 am

      Not only is it a lovely Friday the 13th, but:

      Link

      Reply
    105. 105.

      Baud

      January 13, 2023 at 11:57 am

      @BigJimSlade:

      🍰🎂🎁

      Reply
    106. 106.

      Baud

      January 13, 2023 at 11:57 am

      @Brachiator:

      Men are easy. Suit and tie.

      Reply
    107. 107.

      geg6

      January 13, 2023 at 11:59 am

      @BlueGuitarist:

      Don’t go over to LGM and read the one post they had about Beck.  The commenters there just basically shit all over him.  Pissed me off so bad that I haven’t been back since.  That will probably end at some point but too many assholes there for me to do anything other than glance at the front page.  I would hate to be those people, so fucking “superior” and assholish.

      Reply
    108. 108.

      Baud

      January 13, 2023 at 11:59 am

      @Geminid:

      I would join the Problem Causers caucus if I were in Congress.

      Reply
    109. 109.

      zhena gogolia

      January 13, 2023 at 12:00 pm

      @BigJimSlade: Happy Birthday to you too!

      Reply
    110. 110.

      Baud

      January 13, 2023 at 12:00 pm

      @geg6:

      I would hate to be those people, so fucking “superior” and assholish

       
      Nominated!

      Reply
    111. 111.

      Joe Falco

      January 13, 2023 at 12:01 pm

      @Hoodie:

      Agreed. Unlike his counterpart in Florida, Kemp strikes a balance between GOP cultural and fiscal issues without appearing as a wild-eyed zealot nor pushing his brand on the national stage as a Trump alternative. In the next four years, if Georgia keeps on (EV) trucking without running off a cliff, I’d imagine he’ll be looking to test the waters for a presidential run.

      Reply
    112. 112.

      jonas

      January 13, 2023 at 12:02 pm

      @UncleEbeneezer: Aw, man! Visiting Merida is totally on my bucket list. I’ve heard so many awesome things from friends who’ve been there.

      Reply
    113. 113.

      Michael Bersin

      January 13, 2023 at 12:02 pm

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      Ah, yes, the Missouri General Assembly in all its glory.

      Reply
    114. 114.

      Seanly

      January 13, 2023 at 12:04 pm

      @BigJimSlade:

      Happy birthday to you & me then!

      Must’ve been 2nd grade – teacher made us all fill out a calendar page for our birthday month with highlights on our own birthday. I remember being so confused when another kid had January 13th filled out.

      Reply
    115. 115.

      Brachiator

      January 13, 2023 at 12:05 pm

      @Baud:

      Men are easy. Suit and tie.

      What, no hoodies and shorts?

      Reply
    116. 116.

      Baud

      January 13, 2023 at 12:05 pm

      @Seanly:

      🎁🎂🍰

      Reply
    117. 117.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 12:06 pm

      @BigJimSlade: Happy Birthday

      Reply
    118. 118.

      HumboldtBlue

      January 13, 2023 at 12:07 pm

      You guys want some rock and roll, do ya?

      We get your heart on fire for GOD!!!

      Reply
    119. 119.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 12:08 pm

       

       

      @Seanly: Happy Birthday to you!

      Reply
    120. 120.

      WereBear

      January 13, 2023 at 12:09 pm

      @Ken: It is difficult not to roll in the aisles when the monster appears. Those poor actors were in a classic.

      Reply
    121. 121.

      TheOtherHank

      January 13, 2023 at 12:09 pm

      I might be able to kick the twitter habit now. I use Twitterific on iOS and as of last night it can’t connect to Twitter; it just keeps telling me I need to login and then returning to that view as soon as I try. A quick google shows that Twitter’s public API is down. Whether this is on purpose or some bug that Twitter now lacks the engineering expertise to fix, if it doesn’t come back, I’m done. I really don’t like Twitter’s iPhone app and I don’t feel like downgrading to it.

      Reply
    122. 122.

      WereBear

      January 13, 2023 at 12:10 pm

      @OzarkHillbilly: I actually bought it, but hadn’t gotten to it. Thank you! Now loaded in my Kindle.

      Reply
    123. 123.

      CaseyL

      January 13, 2023 at 12:10 pm

      @Baud: Nobody goes there joins that anymore; it’s too crowded.

      Reply
    124. 124.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 12:11 pm

      @HumboldtBlue: I can honestly say I have never seen anything quite like that. And I sincerely hope I never do again

      Reply
    125. 125.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 12:11 pm

      @Joe Falco: I hope Kemp does go for a Presidential run in 2028. His alternative might be challenging Senator Jon Ossoff.

      Ossoff’s seat will be up in 2026, the last year of Kemp’s term as Governor.

      Reply
    126. 126.

      Jay C

      January 13, 2023 at 12:11 pm

      @Ken:

      The most-famous (though supposedly apocryphal) story about The Giant Claw involved its star, Jeff Morrow.  Morrow, like all the cast, had never actually seen the final product before release, and when he went to the premiere at his local moviehouse, slunk out before the closing credits, embarrassed that his neighbors would recognize him…..

      Reply
    127. 127.

      Steeplejack

      January 13, 2023 at 12:13 pm

      @BigJimSlade:

      Happy birthday! 🥂

      Reply
    128. 128.

      jonas

      January 13, 2023 at 12:13 pm

      @Hoodie: Kemp strikes me as a guy who’s being very savvy right now — not openly crossing Trump, but also not openly embracing the batshit Trumpsanity in the current GOP, unlike DeSantis or Noem or Abbot. He’s not deporting asylum seekers. He’s not trashing LGTBQ folks (although he did sign one of those anti-trans sports bills) or trying to destroy the UGA.

      And speaking of trashing universities, are there any New College of FL alums here who have heard about DeSantis’s latest triumph of assholery? For those who don’t know, New College is the U of FL honors college — a small, selective liberal arts school with a strong progressive tradition. DeSantis just appointed a bunch of far-right toadies to the board of trustees, including the despicable bigot Christopher Rufo, and charged them with basically dismantling the school and rebuilding it as a “Hillsdale of the South”. As someone once said, I can’t eat as much as I want to throw up at this.

      Reply
    129. 129.

      UncleEbeneezer

      January 13, 2023 at 12:14 pm

      Jan 12 (Reuters) – City National Bank, a unit of Royal Bank of Canada (RY.TO), agreed to commit more than $31 million to boost lending to Black and Hispanic home buyers in the Los Angeles area, in the U.S. Department of Justice’s largest settlement over illegal redlining. Thursday’s settlement was part of Attorney General Merrick Garland’s Combatting Redlining Initiative, launched in Oct. 2021 to combat housing discrimination

      https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-sues-city-national-bank-under-federal-fair-housing-act-2023-01-12/

      Reply
    130. 130.

      Frankensteinbeck

      January 13, 2023 at 12:15 pm

      @Ken: ​

      Lovecraftian eldritch horrors.

      I use it for that in my Supervillain books. Matter that is not in another universe as we think of it, but occupying the same space as us, we just can’t interact with it until some (super powered) process translates it into matter we can interact with. It’s how people with transformation powers gain and lose mass. They don’t, it’s just hidden. They have to eat enough to develop and maintain that mass, too.

      Reply
    131. 131.

      satby

      January 13, 2023 at 12:16 pm

      @Seanly: @BigJimSlade: Happy Birthday to youse guys!

      Reply
    132. 132.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 12:16 pm

      For those of you that prefer music that spans genres may I present the one and only The Heimatdamisch. One of the funniest bands I’ve ever seen

      https://youtu.be/n_gtGfAail4

      Reply
    133. 133.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 12:17 pm

      @Betty Cracker: If they took them off, the scaly mutants would steal them!

      Reply
    134. 134.

      UncleEbeneezer

      January 13, 2023 at 12:17 pm

       

      @UncleEbeneezer: Note how the Garland-haters never praise this important part of his work…

      Reply
    135. 135.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 13, 2023 at 12:17 pm

      @Geminid: Charlie Sykes and a bunch of other never-trumpers have lately adopted the theory that trump may be down, but not out. He’s a not a sure thing, but he still has the power to destroy! in a GOP primary. No one ever counters with the example of Kemp, or Raffensberger, and I think there was another statewide GOP elected in GA? Someone, on I forget which of my too-many podcasts, did say trump can tip the race when two pro-trump candidates are tied in a GOP primary, as in PA and AZ.

      I’m trying not to get too excited about trump being done, and trumpism (Orbanism with American accents) remains the greater threat, IMHO, but I keep coming back to the fact that he hasn’t done a rally since the mid-terms.

      Reply
    136. 136.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 12:19 pm

      @UncleEbeneezer: Glad you are having a great time!

      Reply
    137. 137.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 12:20 pm

      @SFBayAreaGal: Wow! I missed them in the RonnyVanZantian.  Sure wish I’d got to see them live.

      Reply
    138. 138.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 12:25 pm

      @kalakal: Sheer meanness and he was also a good athlete back in his youth.

      Reply
    139. 139.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 12:25 pm

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Trump’s rallies were dwindling in attendance last year, and becoming more and more like freak shows. Now it sounds like his handlers want a reset. I’m not sure how him talking policy in smaller gatherings will work, though.

      Personally, I think Trump is a spent force, sort of like a toxic, unstable radioisotope that’s hit its half-life.

      I know others don’t see it that way.

      And Sykes is right that Trump still has destructive power in the GOP. My joke is that Trump couldn’t wreck the nation, so now he’s gonna wreck the Republican Party

      Reply
    140. 140.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 13, 2023 at 12:27 pm

      @Ken:

      There’s a sad story about The Giant Claw. The actors thought they were making a serious science-fiction movie. They didn’t know that the studio had saved money by outsourcing the special effects. They found out at the premiere, when the audience burst into howls of laughter when the bird first appeared. 

      I hope they came to appreciate the b-movie they were unknowingly making.

      Reply
    141. 141.

      JML

      January 13, 2023 at 12:27 pm

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Sykes is probably right. (I disagree with Charlie Sykes about a lot of things, but he’s not an idiot)

      Reply
    142. 142.

      Soprano2

      January 13, 2023 at 12:27 pm

      @Michael Bersin: I read about that, my reaction was ‘WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY DOING?”. Talk about a dumb issue to worry about.

      Reply
    143. 143.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 12:28 pm

      @Paul in KY: I met him once. He was horrible

      Reply
    144. 144.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 12:29 pm

      @geg6: I’ve seen Beck play a set at Forecastle. Wasn’t much of a fan at all of him before. He impressed me with his songs and also he played about 5 instruments during the set. I think he’s a great act to see live.

      Reply
    145. 145.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 12:33 pm

      @HumboldtBlue: That song can certainly be sung (with a few switched words) to be very not Christiany. I want your Hot Bible!

      Cartman would kill doing it!

      Reply
    146. 146.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 13, 2023 at 12:35 pm

      @Delk:

      Yay! The Giant Claw is on tubi. Guess I know what I’m doing this weekend. 

      I guess I do too!  Btw, tomorrow night’s Svengoolie movie is The Invisible Man.  And they’ve shown The Giant Claw too.

      Reply
    147. 147.

      jonas

      January 13, 2023 at 12:36 pm

      @Geminid: I think he’s pretty spent, too. And I mean that literally. I don’t think he has enough money coming in, even with the occasional NFT grift, to mount a serious comeback campaign. He’s done absolutely nothing thus far. Nothing. Can anyone even name his campaign manager? He can’t raise money anymore and doesn’t want to pay for big rallies and such out of his own pocket. Unless he can grift it, he won’t do it.

      Reply
    148. 148.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 12:37 pm

      @kalakal: The girl is badass! Would like to have seen it sung in German.  Thanks for the link.

      Reply
    149. 149.

      Carlo Graziani

      January 13, 2023 at 12:38 pm

      @Frankensteinbeck:

      This is hilarious as Hell to me.  Three fourths of the universe is made of matter that isn’t any kind we know, most of which we can’t detect other than ‘well, something produced this huge gravity effect on galaxies’, and physicists and astronomers toddle along making theories and going “This is fine.”   It’s extra hilarious because the theories work so well, and we know so much, and we understand everything about the room really well except what’s under that elephant-sized tarp.​

      Oh, it’s much worse than that. “Dark Energy” — which is what we call the shrug-emoji effect that causes cosmic acceleration, and which we know of no other way to detect besides cosmographic-type measurements — accounts for 67%–68% of the energy content of the Universe. And it’s so weird that if it even is a thing rather than just an effect (not a given), then it’s like a relativistically negative pressure. Which is to say, a huge tension, as if the Universe were filled with rubber bands instead of gas.

      But almost all (90%) of the remaining 1/3 is “Dark Matter”, which is what causes rotation curves of galaxies to be wonky, and which dominates galaxy clusters and makes the galaxies within them orbit around, but is essentially undetectable in any sort of radiation. And we also have no idea what comprises it, but at least it seems to have a more normal, matter-like equation of state.

      So actually only about 5% of all the energy in the Universe corresponds to stuff that we can see with instruments. So the “tarp” actually fills almost all of the room, and we basically only understand the ashtray and a couple of pictures on the wall.

      Reply
    150. 150.

      zhena gogolia

      January 13, 2023 at 12:39 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: If it stars Jeff Morrow and Mara Corday it’s a B-movie no matter how you slice it.

      Reply
    151. 151.

      Steeplejack

      January 13, 2023 at 12:40 pm

      @Paul in KY:

      I think you’re mistaking Beck for Jeff Beck, which is who geg6 was referring to. Here’s the LGM post.

      Reply
    152. 152.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 13, 2023 at 12:40 pm

      @BigJimSlade: 🥳 and a 🐟 because why not

      Reply
    153. 153.

      Hoodie

      January 13, 2023 at 12:41 pm

      @Geminid: His power now seems lie mostly in his legacy of empowering nutjobs like Gaetz, MTG, etc., by giving them an example of how to get attention.   However, the decimation of Trump backed candidates in 2022 has to be making a lot of GOPers wish he was gone.   Remember, dead Ronald Reagan was more valuable to the GOP than the live version.   When Trump is dead, no doubt the GOP will morph him into some sort of plain-speaking warrior against political correctness and reduced-volume toilets, much like Reagan single-handedly destroyed the Soviet Union and defeated Big Government.

      Reply
    154. 154.

      Kelly

      January 13, 2023 at 12:41 pm

      @Leto: as always, we need to adjust the law to increase penalties.

      Quoting the very quotable John Rodgers “a fine is a price”

      Reply
    155. 155.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 12:41 pm

      @jonas: Trump’s November 15(?) campaign announcement sort of sank without a trace. He might have hoped to clear the field, but I don’t think the Pompeos, Christies and Desantises even blinked.

      Reply
    156. 156.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 12:42 pm

      @kalakal: Appears he got a kick out of being horrible. I’m glad I never encountered him.

      My dad met Glen Campbell once as he hung out in kitchen area of restaurant my dad worked at. This before he headed over to do his set. Said he was the friendliest guy.

      Reply
    157. 157.

      geg6

      January 13, 2023 at 12:46 pm

      @Paul in KY:

      I don’t think there is another guitar player out there or who ever lived as much a virtuoso as Jeff Beck.  I always wonder if I would have a different take if I’d ever had the chance to see Hendrix live.  But he died before I was allowed to go to concerts, so we’ll never know.  I can say that I don’t much like Hendrix’s recorded music.  And don’t get me started on how shitty I think Clapton is, both as a musician and a person.  He’s a serviceable guitar player but not even in the same category as Beck, Hendrix or even Jimmy Page.

      Reply
    158. 158.

      Omnes Omnibus

      January 13, 2023 at 12:46 pm

      @Paul in KY:  I’ve seen the other Beck (Hansen) in concert.  I wasn’t impressed.

      Reply
    159. 159.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 12:47 pm

      @Steeplejack: I guess I was assuming Beck, the Scientology dude from Cali. They shit all over Jeff BecK?!?!  Jeezus!

      Reply
    160. 160.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 13, 2023 at 12:48 pm

      @Geminid:

      And Sykes is right that Trump still has destructive power in the GOP. My joke is that Trump couldn’t wreck the nation, so now he’s gonna wreck the Republican Party 

      Have at it, Dump!  Not sure how a 40+-year wreck can be wrecked more, but I won’t try to stop the orange shitstain.

      Reply
    161. 161.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 12:49 pm

      @Kelly: The Swedes have a good system for speeding fines. They were getting pissed off with rich wankers driving recklessly and to whom the existing fines were just small change so they brought in a system whereby the fine is based on your wealth

      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-10960230

      Reply
    162. 162.

      BigJimSlade

      January 13, 2023 at 12:49 pm

      @Baud: @zhena gogolia: @kalakal: @Steeplejack: @satby: Thank you!!!

       

      @Seanly: Thanks and the same to you! Growing up, my best friend and next-door neighbor had (he’s still around, we’ve just all moved) a half-brother who’s a 1/13 guy, but 10 years older. And the next house was our other best friend who’s birthday is 1/13, but he’s one year older than me.  So 3 houses in a row!
      My claim to fame is that I was actually born on a Friday :-)

      Reply
    163. 163.

      geg6

      January 13, 2023 at 12:50 pm

      @Steeplejack: ​
       
      Yes, Jeff Beck. I wouldn’t listen to the other Beck if he paid me to do it. I don’t patronize the works of Scientologists. I don’t listen Beck, I won’t watch a Tom Cruise or John Travolta film and Kirstie Alley passing away garnered a “good, another one gone” from me.

      Reply
    164. 164.

      BigJimSlade

      January 13, 2023 at 12:52 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: Thanks for all the fish!

      I did have a can of sardines a couple days ago, but I think yours is the only fish I’ll have today :-)

      Reply
    165. 165.

      Wanderer

      January 13, 2023 at 12:52 pm

      @UncleEbeneezer: Lucky you!  I spend every winter dreaming of returning to Mexico.  Merida sounds perfect.  Are there things to do with young children?  Is the ocean far?  Enjoy your trip!

      Reply
    166. 166.

      Steeplejack

      January 13, 2023 at 12:52 pm

      @zhena gogolia:

      True.

      I think it’s funny that exotic (foreign?) beauty Mara Corday was Marilyn Joan Watts from Santa Monica, CA.

      Reply
    167. 167.

      BigJimSlade

      January 13, 2023 at 12:55 pm

      @geg6: Yeah, I think the thing with Jeff Beck is that people don’t generally care about the songs, then don’t listen closely enough to hear how freakin’ amazing the guitar playing is. If you’re not into the little details, you’ll miss most of it.

      Reply
    168. 168.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 13, 2023 at 12:55 pm

      @BigJimSlade: Sorry it had to come to this.

      Reply
    169. 169.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 12:57 pm

      @Hoodie: I think a lot of Republican officeholders like Mitch McConnell and political apparatchiks like Karl Rove knew Trump was a drag on the party even before he left office. They probably were relieved when most of his candidates wiped out last November.

      These folks know their party has to put Trump in the rearview mirror, and that the sooner they do this the better. That won’t solve their other problems, but it might be a start.

      Reply
    170. 170.

      Steeplejack

      January 13, 2023 at 1:04 pm

      @Geminid:

      Their “other problem” seems to be that Trumpism is outliving the original host, as evidenced by the increasingly nutty House GQP.

      Reply
    171. 171.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 1:05 pm

      Their problem is they want to demolish Trump but none of them wants to be the one that does it.

      “The hand that wields the knife shall never wear the crown ”

      Sucks to be them

      Reply
    172. 172.

      Brachiator

      January 13, 2023 at 1:09 pm

      @BigJimSlade:

      Yeah, I think the thing with Jeff Beck is that people don’t generally care about the songs, then don’t listen closely enough to hear how freakin’ amazing the guitar playing is. If you’re not into the little details, you’ll miss most of it.

      New York Times rock critic Jon Pareles did a nice piece on “Jeff Beck’s 10 Essential Songs,” with little notes that spoke about his musicianship.

      I had forgot that Beck played on Stevie Wonder’s 1972 song, “Lookin’ For Another Pure Love.”

      Reply
    173. 173.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 1:10 pm

      @geg6: In that comment, I was talking about Beck the one-named dude. I couldn’t conceive of people shitting all over Jeff Beck, so I assumed it must have been ‘Beck’.  My bad on that.

      If you want to see some great young guys with the guitar, check out the dude that fronts Wolfmother and the guy who fronts Reignwolf. Both are badass, IMO.

      Reply
    174. 174.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 1:11 pm

      @Steeplejack: They’ve got a lot of problems, and many are being exemplified by their House majority. And maybe (I’m hoping) even aggravated.

      Reply
    175. 175.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 1:12 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: Glad my set was better. Sorry about the one you saw.

      Reply
    176. 176.

      Hoodie

      January 13, 2023 at 1:13 pm

      @Geminid: The problem Trump presents is what do they do next?   Before Trump, they had a problem because they had no unified message.  Prior to Bush, they could still play the whole national security/fiscal conservative thing, but that blew up with Bush.  Faced with that, they went with Trump for a cheap win based on racism and xenophobia.   Seems to me they’ll try to hang on to some sort of Trumpless trumpism, but that will be hard to do with him still alive and kicking.  I suspect the next big thing will be full metal religiosity rooted in a sexual panic similar to the immigration panic.   DeSantis is working that vein already.

      Reply
    177. 177.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 1:14 pm

      @geg6: I think Beck (the one-named dude) is crazy for being a scientologist, but he played a fine set that time I saw him at Forecastle. His music, in general, I’m meh about.

      Reply
    178. 178.

      Paul in KY

      January 13, 2023 at 1:16 pm

      @Hoodie: Carrying the cross and wrapped in the flag. Jingoism turned up to 11.

      Reply
    179. 179.

      Steeplejack

      January 13, 2023 at 1:26 pm

      @Brachiator:

      Jon Pareles, “Jeff Beck’s 10 Essential Songs” (free article).

      Reply
    180. 180.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 1:31 pm

      @Paul in KY:

      I couldn’t conceive of people shitting all over Jeff Beck

      Even Ritchie Blackmore* was/is always complimentary about Jeff Beck.

      *Blackmore’s been a professional troll all his life, about the only people he’s not made a habit of slagging off one way or another  are his old buddies Beck, Page & Clapton. He can be pretty astute as to his and their relative strengths and weaknesses as guitarists and he really rated Jeff.

      Reply
    181. 181.

      BigJimSlade

      January 13, 2023 at 1:34 pm

      @Brachiator: And he came up with the drum beat for Superstition!
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superstition_(song)

      I’ll have to check out the Pareles article (insert thumbs up emoji).

      Reply
    182. 182.

      BigJimSlade

      January 13, 2023 at 1:34 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: I’ll have more fish next week.

      Reply
    183. 183.

      ...now I try to be amused

      January 13, 2023 at 1:37 pm

      @Kelly:

      Quoting the very quotable John Rodgers “a fine is a price”

      One I quote at people a lot. Another John Rogers quote: “Nothing changes until rich white guys go to jail.”

      Reply
    184. 184.

      ...now I try to be amused

      January 13, 2023 at 1:42 pm

      @different-church-lady:

      This may sound odd, but I think Fripp is one of the most spiritual musicians we’ve ever seen. He taps into something deep and mysterious and inexplicable, and brings it into the world, and can be just as awed by it as any of the rest of us.

      Doesn’t sound odd to me. When Fripp speaks of Music it’s with a capital M.

      Fripp fascinates me. He’s so arrogant and humble at the same time.

      Reply
    185. 185.

      Kelly

      January 13, 2023 at 1:44 pm

      I was today years old when I discovered the CRV3 battery. It looks just like the 9 volt battery I actually needed if my glasses are in my shirt pocket.

      Reply
    186. 186.

      trnc

      January 13, 2023 at 1:44 pm

      @Baud: I want Trump in jail too, but slander and libel aren’t criminal.

      True, but it would probably help those companies with their civil suits. Which is obviously not in the SC’s purview, but, hey, if it comes out, it comes out.

      Reply
    187. 187.

      BigJimSlade

      January 13, 2023 at 1:48 pm

      @…now I try to be amused: I’m about to head off to the pool, but the shirt I have in my bag to change into is a King Crimson shirt :-)

      Yes, Fripp is very interesting, like he has no humor and plenty of humor, too.

      Reply
    188. 188.

      kalakal

      January 13, 2023 at 1:51 pm

      @…now I try to be amused:

      As Trading Places put it

      https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/10368030-931b-46eb-a3b8-c8d6d7a5d882

      Reply
    189. 189.

      Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

      January 13, 2023 at 1:53 pm

      How are we already in trouble with the debt limit?! I thought they addressed that and we’d have more time!

      Reply
    190. 190.

      The Moar You Know

      January 13, 2023 at 1:54 pm

      Fripp fascinates me. He’s so arrogant and humble at the same time.

      @…now I try to be amused: he’s a phenomenal player and composer.  That being said, I wouldn’t work with him for any amount of money.

      Reply
    191. 191.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 1:55 pm

      @Hoodie: One of their problems is that they have a radicalized base. I saw this happening in Virginia over the last twenty years. It used to be that Chamber of Commerce/Country Club establishment called the shots in the Virginia party, and the bible thumpers were junior partners. Then the Tea Party populists formed an alliance with the bible thumpers, and now the establishment types are laying low (they’re still around, though).

      Youngkin was able to paper over the cracks, figuratively (and literally) with hundred dollar bills. But I think he’ll prove to be a one-off, and will leave the party with the same conflicts when he leaves office. He’s already looking beyond Virginia anyway.

      This fall’s General Assembly elections will show if he has any real clout among Virginia voters. He should be able to get Republicans to present a united front, but so will the Democrats. And unlike the elections since 2011, this one will be contested on a neutral map, not the one drawn by Republicans after the 2010 Census.

      Nationally though, I think the radicals will keep the upper hand over the more pragmatic Chamber of Commerce types. That conflict may become intense late this summer, when the problem of the debt ceiling becomes acute.

      Reply
    192. 192.

      trnc

      January 13, 2023 at 1:55 pm

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Under New York law, the most the companies can be fined is about $1.6 million, a penalty the Trump Organization can easily afford.

      Yes, they can easily afford it, but isn’t that on top of $2 million in back taxes being repaid? Maybe the max needs to be raised, but I don’t think we can expect fines to be based on what a company can afford vs what amount they actually got away with. The question is, did the org actually make money on this?

      Reply
    193. 193.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 2:01 pm

      @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: What I’ve read is that the debt ceiling problem will become acute mid- to late summer.

      Another deadline is October 1. Congress has to fund government for the next fiscal year by that date. Last year they got by with continuing resolutions before passing the Omnibus spending bill a few days before Christmas. House Republicans say they won’t let that happen this time.

      Reply
    194. 194.

      Captain C

      January 13, 2023 at 2:03 pm

      @Roger Moore:

      THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE IS FINDING TOO MANY EARLY GALAXIES

      Is it just me, or does this sound like a NYTimesPitchbot headline?

      Yes, but needs moar, “How This Is Bad News for Biden and Democrats.”

      Reply
    195. 195.

      Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

      January 13, 2023 at 2:03 pm

      @Geminid: Why didn’t we raise it when we could?!

      Reply
    196. 196.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 2:08 pm

      @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: Joe Manchin said he would not help pass a debt ceiling increase in the lame duck session. I thought he was bluffing, but evidently he wasn’t.

      Reply
    197. 197.

      Kelly

      January 13, 2023 at 2:10 pm

      @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: Why didn’t we eliminate it while we could?

      “I don’t belong to an organized political party. I’m a Democrat.”

      Will Rodgers another very quotable Rodgers

      Reply
    198. 198.

      Torrey

      January 13, 2023 at 2:11 pm

      @OzarkHillbilly:

       
      So what I want to see is the Democratic women all showing up wearing man-tailored suits, maybe even three-piece, and neckties. Or maybe do creative things with the neckties, like wear them loosened and jauntily pinned, since taunting the men who have to wear neckties would be kind of fun.

      Reply
    199. 199.

      ...now I try to be amused

      January 13, 2023 at 2:11 pm

      @The Moar You Know:

      That being said, I wouldn’t work with [Fripp] for any amount of money.

      From what I’ve seen, there is a big difference between Fripp the session player (i.e., he’s working for you) and Fripp the leader of King Crimson (you’re working for him). As a session man he’s a perfect professional. In KC he’s a tyrant in the service of his muse.

      Reply
    200. 200.

      Sure Lurkalot

      January 13, 2023 at 2:27 pm

      @Seanly: @BigJimSlade:

      Happy birthday to you and you and you (points to spouse) and me (tomorrow).

      Reply
    201. 201.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 13, 2023 at 3:05 pm

      @Geminid:

      Joe Manchin said he would not help pass a debt ceiling increase in the lame duck session. I thought he was bluffing, but evidently he wasn’t.

      I never thought he was bluffing, and if he was, I doubt Sinema, who surely was gearing up to declare her “independence” long before she did, would have gone along with a deal. We, including those two, knew people like Jim Jordan and Steve Scalise were taking power. It isn’t just the “politics bore and confuse me” lumpenmittel who can’t, or won’t, take 1/6 seriously.

      Reply
    202. 202.

      Cameron

      January 13, 2023 at 3:12 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: This thread made me curious enough that I’ve already watched The Giant Claw today on Youtube.  Which I sorta hafta do since I don’t have a TV anymore.

      Reply
    203. 203.

      Cameron

      January 13, 2023 at 3:17 pm

      @geg6: I’d rather listen to Tony McPhee than Eric Clapton any day – and for the same style of music.

      Reply
    204. 204.

      BenCisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️

      January 13, 2023 at 3:29 pm

      @Michael Bersin: An im-becile. A nincowpoop.

      Reply
    205. 205.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 3:30 pm

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I got my hopes up because I remembered how, at the end of last June, Manchin said that even a pared down BBB was dead, kaput, finito. And then in July, right after the Senate passed the CHIPS+ Act, Shumer and Manchin announced agreement on a pared down BBB, rebranded as the Inflation Reduction Act.

      But the lame duck session did not end with a deux ex manchina descending from the rafters to raise the debt limit, as I had hoped.

      It’s all speculation now, but I think Sinema would have gone along. The contituency for playing chicken with the debt ceiling is fairly small. She seems to curry favor with corporate America, and they don’t want that fight, it seems to me.

      Reply
    206. 206.

      Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

      January 13, 2023 at 3:35 pm

      @Geminid:

      Ugh! Manchin! I’d rather have him than the alternative, but this is going to be bad.

      Reply
    207. 207.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 3:52 pm

       

       

      @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: It could be bad. I think it definitely will be scary. There is no certainty as to how this problem will be resolved, but one possible solution would be a break up of the Republican House majority and passage of a debt ceiling increase under a reorganized House.

      People are bound to scoff at this, and I am not saying it’s likely. But the pressure on Republican House members will be intense, and that caucus could crack.

      Reply
    208. 208.

      CaseyL

      January 13, 2023 at 4:12 pm

      @Geminid:

      But the pressure on Republican House members will be intense,

      Intense pressure from whom?

      They don’t need the Chamber anymore; they’ve got all the dark money from oligarchs they need.

      I can’t think of any constituency the GOP needs who will put any pressure on them to increase the debt limit; and quite a few constituencies who will put pressure on them not to.

      Reply
    209. 209.

      Geminid

      January 13, 2023 at 4:48 pm

      @CaseyL: You are looking at the Chamber of Commerce and their allies simply as donors. But they are peers and constituents that Republican Representatives talk to every time they visit their districts.

      I’m using “Chamber of Commerce” here as shorthand for the whole network of bigger and smaller businessmen, and the many professionals- accountants, lawyers, real estate brokers and agents, construction contractors of all types, insurance agents etc.- with economic and social ties to the leading businessmen. They all network, they almost all vote and they influence other voters.

      These folks have long been a mainstay of the Republican party, and not every Republican is going to throw them over to win support from the relatively fickle billionaires. And anyway, I am not talking about the whole caucus being pressured but the 15 to 40 members who have to win reelection from purple and lìght red districts. They’re  the ones who will feel the pressure, not so much the other ones in safe red districts.

      The Club for Growth can give a lot of money, but can they deliver voters? I guess you might answer that question in the affirmative, but I think you have to believe in a very reductionist view, that there are smart Democrats (like us!) but everybody else are malleable, low information rubes. I know many people like to believe this, but it does not conform to my my experience so I do not.

      Reply
    210. 210.

      UncleEbeneezer

      January 13, 2023 at 4:53 pm

      @jonas: It’s awesome!  Beautiful, multi-colored city with tons of colonial architecture, and parks with incredible street food.  People are so friendly too.

      Reply

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