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Saturday Morning Open Thread: Speaking Up for Team Dem

by Anne Laurie|  January 21, 20236:16 am| 158 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, President Biden, Proud to Be A Democrat, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You, Vice-President Harris

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I’ve never been more optimistic about America’s future than I am today. pic.twitter.com/EJmvmpRr8q

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) January 20, 2023

Remember, social media users: Caring is sharing!

For two years, @POTUS & @VP have worked with the Democratic Congress to deliver For The People.
 
By creating 11 million jobs, lowering health costs, investing in education, veterans & climate action, and promoting justice, President Biden has kept his promise to rebuild America. https://t.co/e4RF3SAk7h

— Nancy Pelosi (@SpeakerPelosi) January 20, 2023


Think of where our nation was just two years ago: small businesses shuttered. Millions out of work.

Fast forward to today: The last two years have been the strongest on record for new small business applications, with more than 10 million applications across America.

— Vice President Kamala Harris (@VP) January 20, 2023

Unemployment rate is lowest in half a century.

Thank you to the American people.
Thank you @POTUS and @VP.
Thank you American Rescue Plan, and Infrastructure Law.

Democrats put #PeopleOverPolitics and are focused on jobs.

What is GOP focused on? Cutting Social Security. https://t.co/uIbJd4BgPX

— Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) January 20, 2023

The White House @PressSec confirms a Biden-McCarthy meeting but douses any notion of debt ceiling haggling.

“Like the President has said many times, raising the debt ceiling is not a negotiation; it is an obligation of this country and its leaders to avoid economic chaos.” pic.twitter.com/44iEqm69d1

— Josh Wingrove (@josh_wingrove) January 20, 2023

PSA, for Left Coasters:

Californians in Merced, Monterey, Sacramento, San Joaquin, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara and Santa Cruz counties are also eligible for assistance and relief if their home was damaged. Find more information on individual disaster assistance here:https://t.co/1MnIzIlkgI

— Senator Dianne Feinstein (@SenFeinstein) January 20, 2023

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    1. 1.

      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 6:22 am

      👍

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    2. 2.

      NotMax

      January 21, 2023 at 6:28 am

      Weekend respite TV recommendation.

      Tremendously enjoyed the short season on MHz Choice of feature-length episodes of the German TV series Allmen, based on Martin Suter’s novels. Elegant, erudite Swiss rogue and his adept, cultured Guatemalan valet/chef/confidante/jack of many trades. Much fun. Great job breaking the fourth wall.

      As there’s only a quartet of episodes in the season (each 90 minutes, more or less), if not a subscriber one should be able to breeze through them during the free seven day trial period.

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    3. 3.

      WV Blondie

      January 21, 2023 at 6:30 am

      Thanks, AL! Nice to start the day with pleasant news.

      Reply
    4. 4.

      Spanky

      January 21, 2023 at 6:35 am

      I want to see Joe invite Nancy as his anger translator for his meeting with Qevin.

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    5. 5.

      JPL

      January 21, 2023 at 6:48 am

      @Spanky:  The discussions should be aired on CSPAN so that the American people can see for themselves the difference between the two sides.

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      mrmoshpotato

      January 21, 2023 at 7:04 am

      @Spanky:

      I want to see Joe invite Nancy as his anger translator for his meeting with Qevin. 

      Yes please!

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    7. 7.

      lowtechcyclist

      January 21, 2023 at 7:05 am

      The past two years have been, without a doubt, the best time in my adult life (1972-now) to be a Democrat.

      I won’t say I’ve never been more optimistic about America’s future than now, because in so many ways, we’re not out of the woods yet. I was more optimistic fourteen years ago because I thought for sure we’d start getting serious about global warming in the coming months, and of course the notion that American fascists would try to destroy our nation from within, and might even have a meaningful chance of success, hadn’t remotely crossed my mind.

      The legislation passed last year was a good start wrt global warming, but damn, we’re still going to pay a serious price for those lost thirteen years, because major climate change is already underway. I hope that when I leave this mortal coil, probably sometime around mid-century, it’ll look like we’ve turned the corner and have limited the damage. But I won’t say I’m optimistic yet.

      And it’s still going to be a close thing with the fascists. I’m cautiously optimistic there, but the emphasis is on ‘cautiously.’

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      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 7:11 am

      @lowtechcyclist:

      I’m counting on dying before anything really bad happens.

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    9. 9.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 21, 2023 at 7:11 am

      Blech,

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      O. Felix Culpa

      January 21, 2023 at 7:18 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      A blech of fresh air.

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      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 7:24 am

      @JPL: Live C-Span coverage would be nice. Instead there will be a battle of press appearances after the conference that will be the lead on network TV and radio news.

      Kevin McCarthy and his team are likely working hard now to craft his lying sound bites. That is not an easy task with such a weak position politically and policy-wise.

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    12. 12.

      The Thin Black Duke

      January 21, 2023 at 7:27 am

      @Baud: I think that’s why younger voters are becoming more engaged politically. They see the future the GOP is constructing for them and they’re scared to death. Enlightened self-interest can be a good thing sometimes.

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    13. 13.

      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 7:35 am

      @The Thin Black Duke:

      I hope so. There are encouraging signs, but there’s a lot of propaganda out there trying to discourage them by making them think everything and everyone is hopeless.

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      Ken

      January 21, 2023 at 7:37 am

      @Baud: That’s the sort of line that makes karma say “Hold my beer.”

      Reply
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      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 7:37 am

      @lowtechcyclist: I see the carbon reduction components in legislation passed by the last Congress not so much a good start as accelerators for the clean energy transition that is already under way.

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      TerryTime

      January 21, 2023 at 7:39 am

      @The Thin Black Duke: The analogy I use with my Gen Z kids is that the hateful old folks are ordering for the table but not staying for the meal. Vote, and bring your friends too, or you’ll be stuck eating what they order.

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      NotMax

      January 21, 2023 at 7:39 am

      @Geminid

      Kevin McCarthy and his team are likely working hard now to craft his lying sound bites.

      Fox chyron: “McCarthy Miffed at Lack of Crudites”

      //

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      Lapassionara

      January 21, 2023 at 7:44 am

      @lowtechcyclist: Those 13 years, indeed. Every once and a while someone posts reminders of what some US rivers were like before the Clean Water Act, and the progress made in the years since. We need more of those kind of reminders. See, good things can happen, if we the people take action.

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      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 7:51 am

      @Lapassionara:

      if we the people take action.

       
      There’s always a catch.

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    20. 20.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 21, 2023 at 7:51 am

      @O. Felix Culpa: That would be “Buuuuuuurp.”

      @TerryTime: I just say, “Don’t let old fucks like me decide your future.”

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    21. 21.

      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 7:56 am

      @NotMax: Treasury Secretary Yellen will likely serve as a leading administration spokesman on this issue. She might even be the one tapped to deliver the administration’s side after the meeting. A way of putting McCarthy in his place, as an actor inferior to a President who has more on his plate than McCarthy’s crude efforts to hamstring the economy.

      I’m interested in seeing whether Janet Yellen has “got game” as a public advocate. From what I’ve seen,  I think she does.

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    22. 22.

      Lapassionara

      January 21, 2023 at 7:58 am

      @Baud: Yes, always a catch.

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    23. 23.

      NotMax

      January 21, 2023 at 8:00 am

      @Geminid

      May be misremembering but seem to have seen in passing she’s currently overseas meeting with African government officials.

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    24. 24.

      NotMax

      January 21, 2023 at 8:03 am

      @Lapassionara

      Fortunately or no, only 22.
      :)

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      satby

      January 21, 2023 at 8:10 am

      @Spanky: Joe Biden doesn’t need anyone as an anger translator. He’s fluent in both anger and shade.

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      satby

      January 21, 2023 at 8:11 am

      @O. Felix Culpa: You’re up early!

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      JMG

      January 21, 2023 at 8:14 am

      @Geminid: She was Fed chairperson. That means she’s an expert in ambiguous language. It also means she’s an expert in speaking to the financial community rather than the public. That’s fine. This is a fight the President should lead. It seems to me that Yellin’s public voice will be the voice of doom, that is, she’ll enumerate all the bad stuff Treasury would be forced to do to said public in the event of default. The idea would be to give Wall Street a good fright, since it has leverage with Republicans.

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    28. 28.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 21, 2023 at 8:15 am

      Across the United States Republican politicians are seeking to bring in new laws that crack down on drag shows as part of a broader backlash against LGTBQ+ rights sweeping through rightwing parts of America.

      Legislators in at least eight states have introduced legislation aiming to restrict or censor the shows, according to a new report from a leading freedom of speech group. A total of 14 bills have been introduced across Arizona, Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia.

      Misery, up front and center.

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      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 8:21 am

      @JMG: I do not pre-judge Secretary Yellen in this area, and I would not sell her short.

      And what I’m saying is that she could be the leadoff batter. Joe Biden will still bat cleanup.

       

      @NotMax: Secretary Yellen will be back by the time this meeting takes place. She’ll certainly be a participant, whether or not she serves as lead spokesman on this matter.

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      Spanky

      January 21, 2023 at 8:30 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:  First Amendment lawyers all saying “OhPleaseOhPlease.“

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    31. 31.

      Bupalos

      January 21, 2023 at 8:34 am

      @Baud: I think the primary driver of youth demoralization is an increasingly entrenched, rent-seeking, geriatric power structure. Which is reflected almost everywhere in this society.

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      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 8:34 am

      @JMG: Yellen was a Fed Chairman. Now she is Treasury Secretary for a Democratic administration. Her responsibilities are broader and I think she is aware of the political component of her job.

      Yellen strikes me as a very aware person who will want to fight for Joe Biden. I think she knows the stakes, not just for this particular battle but for the wider war againt Republican radicalism, as well as you or I.

      I have not watched Yellen’s performance very much thus far. I think I will be watching going forward, and I will try to watch with an open mind.

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      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 8:38 am

      @Bupalos:

      increasingly entrenched, rent-seeking, geriatric power structure. Which is reflected almost everywhere in this society.

       
      There are many ways to respond to that. Demoralization is the one the power structure wants most, so that’s what they push.

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    34. 34.

      Amir Khalid

      January 21, 2023 at 8:49 am

      @Bupalos:

      There’s a song about that.

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    35. 35.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 21, 2023 at 8:49 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: Many years ago I was best man for a long time buddy. After accepting this onerous duty, I asked if he wanted a bachelor party (I dislike the standard type and the only one I had thrown before was a float trip and a gravel bar bonfire with wives, sisters, and girlfriends invited) This time T just said, “Nah, I don’t need one.”

      “OK.” Less work for me. All I have to do now is show up and give a speech.

      2 weeks before the appointed date, T comes to me at a gathering. He’d had a few, and he was practically crying,

      “Tom? I changed my mind, I want a bachelor party after all. I know it’s late in the game but I really want one. I’ve never had one before (this was his 3rd time, the charm) and I just really want one. Please Tom, please? You don’t have to get any women or any of that. I just want a party. Puleeeeeeeeze???”

      I’m looking at him, tears running down his face, begging me… Can I possibly say no? No fuckin’ way.

      “OK.” I said thinking to myself, “but your gonna pay for this muthafucker.”

      Than I had an idea, a deliciously evil idea. No women? Right. Worked it out with my roommate to throw the party at his Crawford County property on the Huzzah River for the next Saturday/Sunday. Called all our caver friends to invite them, but there was a caveat: They had to come in drag.

      Then I went shopping. Got me a tight fitting black minidress, fishnet stockings, highheels, a black handbag and a blond wig to top it all off. (All but the wig and stockings I got from Goodwill) then I found this red lacy teddy for T.

      At the appointed hour they finally showed up. I was crossing the dirt drive at that very moment (I was smokin’ hot!) and I struck my sexiest pose. He gets out of the truck and says, “You are the ugliest thing I have ever seen!” I could have gotten my feelings hurt but instead I said, “Just wait until you see what you are wearing.”

      A night of drunken debauchery unlike any other ensued. There were only about 18 of us as most begged off either because it was such short notice or because… Well you know. I suspect for most it was the former. Cavers aren’t particularly shy or retiring. But some guys…

      One such guy did show up but his dress was very conservative and his discomfort was written all over his face. Another guy we all dubbed Princess Di, because of his pearls I think. One showed up naked stating, “I didn’t have a thing to wear!” And on and on. It was great. The most fun any of us had ever had.

      At one point somebody stated, “I just hope a Sheriff’s deputy doesn’t show up.” And we all had a good laugh at the imagined look on his face and the imagined conversation that would ensue.

      These days it wouldn’t be so funny.

      ETA, Oh yeah, lots of pictures were taken. Somehow or other they all disappeared. Except for one set. T’s wife told me after his death that she still has a set. I’m hoping to some day get a set myself.

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    36. 36.

      UncleEbeneezer

      January 21, 2023 at 9:02 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      Sen Escamilla stated, “If we are going to take away the ability for parents to make decisions with their providers, then all children should be included and not targeted at a specific group of kids.” Republicans often speak about parental choice and the rights for parents to direct the care and education of their children. In cases like these anti-trans bills that ban care for trans youth, though, they suddenly forget about parental choice and instead decide that the government should stand between families and their doctors. Senator Escamilla’s proposed amendment was designed to highlight exactly that.

      Senator Michael Kennedy, the proponent and chief sponsor of the bill, said that he opposed banning breast implants for cisgender kids. He tried to come up with ad hoc justifications, such as the idea that breast implants for cis kids have been done for a long time and so this makes it acceptable. Nevermind that puberty blockers have also been used for decades – Senator Kennedy knows that banning cis kids from getting breast implants would upset the thriving plastic surgery industry in the state. One by one the senators cast their vote. The amendment failed 5-2 with all 5 Republicans voting against the amendment and both Democrats voting for it.

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    37. 37.

      MagdaInBlack

      January 21, 2023 at 9:05 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: This story about you does not surprise me in the least.  It’s yet another reason I like you 😉

      Reply
    38. 38.

      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 9:06 am

      I see that former Florida state Senator Annette Taddeo is making a bid for the Florida state Democratic Chair. She might be a good one.

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      tobie

      January 21, 2023 at 9:09 am

      @Geminid: Yellen may be my favorite member of Biden’s cabinet. She’s part granny, part bulldog, an accomplished economist who frequently moves mountains but doesn’t need to call attention to herself. Sometimes I wish she would. She lobbied for the global corporate minimum tax rate of 15% and got all 130 OECD countries to sign on

      This may have been one of the biggest achievements of the admin in its first two yaers.

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    40. 40.

      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 9:11 am

      @Geminid:

      A glutton for punishment.

      Reply
    41. 41.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 21, 2023 at 9:11 am

      @UncleEbeneezer: These fuckers need to get a life.

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    42. 42.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      January 21, 2023 at 9:18 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: Exactly! Is this really the biggest thing they have to worry about? Don’t they have actual work to do?

      Reply
    43. 43.

      sab

      January 21, 2023 at 9:19 am

      @Baud: I tell my step-kids that they have been telling us “Social Security won’t be here for your old age” for my whole life, and here I am almost 70 and it’s still here which is why we are not sleeping on their sofa and instead can help with tuition for the grandkid.

      Social Security was new to my parents which is why they believed and I believed it wouldn’t be here by now. This isn’t a law of Nature though, it is a political choice.

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    44. 44.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 21, 2023 at 9:21 am

      Elijah McClain: officers to enter pleas to charges in death of Black man put in chokehold

      McClain, a massage therapist, had not been accused of committing any crime and was not carrying any kind of weapon.

      According to the indictment, he was walking home from a grocery store in 2019 after buying iced tea wearing a ski mask, months before the coronavirus pandemic began and made face coverings common.

      The encounter quickly escalated, with McClain initially losing consciousness after a chokehold was applied by police. McClain, whom relatives say wore the mask because anemia made him cold, complained he couldn’t breathe as three officers held him handcuffed on the ground, and he vomited several times.

      He sobbed, pleading: “I’m just different. I’m just different, that’s all. That’s all I was doing. I’m so sorry. I have no gun. I don’t do that stuff. I don’t do any fighting. Why were you attacking me? I don’t do guns. I don’t even kill flies. I don’t eat meat … I am a vegetarian.”

      About time.

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    45. 45.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 9:22 am

      @TerryTime:

      The analogy I use with my Gen Z kids is that the hateful old folks are ordering for the table but not staying for the meal. Vote, and bring your friends too, or you’ll be stuck eating what they order.

      Wow, that’s really good.

      Reply
    46. 46.

      BenCisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️

      January 21, 2023 at 9:31 am

      Proud to be on Team Biden/Harris.

      Looking forward to continuing the fight.

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    47. 47.

      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 9:32 am

      @Baud: Annette Taddeo was born in Columbia 55 years ago and emigrated to Huntsville, Alabama when she was 17. After graduating from the University of North Alabama with a degree in Commercial Spanish, Taddeo moved to Miami and started a tranlation business.

      Ms. Taddeo was a well regarded Dade County Democratic Chairman in the first years of the last decade, so she has experience in this area.

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    48. 48.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 21, 2023 at 9:33 am

      Elon Musk testified on Friday as part of a trial over a 2018 tweet in which he claimed to have “funding secured” to take Tesla private, a tweet that shareholders allege cost them millions in trading losses.

      The Tesla CEO appeared in a San Francisco federal courtroom and defended himself by saying that “just because I tweet something does not mean people believe it or will act accordingly”.
      …………..
      Musk, wearing a dark suit over a white button-down shirt, testified for less than 30 minutes before court adjourned until Monday. He spoke softly and in a sometimes bemused manner, a contrast to his occasional combative testimony in past trials.

      That’s because this time they’ve got him by the short hairs.

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    49. 49.

      Scout211

      January 21, 2023 at 9:40 am

      The storms are now over and the clean-up is underway, thanks to the disaster funds. But what about the drought? USA Today has an article up this morning with rain totals and some nice graphics from the state water resources.

      Central California, the Southern California coastlines and the Sierra Nevada regions are 200% ahead of their average precipitation to date, said David Rizzardo, hydrology section manager for the water resources department.

      “Not surprisingly, these are also the areas where we’ve seen the greatest impacts from flooding: levee breaks, mudslides, inundated highways and heavy snow accumulations from the series of atmospheric rivers that began in late December and persisted into mid-January,” Rizzardo said.

      When compared with historic water years, 2022-2023 is off to an impressive start in the same regions.

      The Tulare and San Joaquin basins are tracking their wettest years in history, with almost half of January remaining.

      “The precipitation accumulation in the San Joaquin and Tulare Lake Basin regions are around the same pace as the other two wettest historic years on record (1968-69 and 1982-83),” Rizzardo said.

       

      And a local article about farmers in the Central Valley who were given permission this month to flood their fields to help recharge the groundwater in the area.

      The drought is not over (they remind us), but it is showing improvement.

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      mrmoshpotato

      January 21, 2023 at 9:40 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      The Tesla CEO appeared in a San Francisco federal courtroom and defended himself by saying that “just because I tweet something does not mean people believe it or will act accordingly”. 

      I see that this manchild doesn’t know what a CEO is.

      What?  My words as CEO can affect how people view the company?  Really?

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      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 9:41 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: Maybe Musk switched his designer pharmaceuticals. Or did a couple cannabis gummies before he went in!

      More seriously, I think you are right, Musk knows he messed up and is looking at a hefty civil judgement. He is making an argument, but it’s a weak one.

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    52. 52.

      BenCisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️

      January 21, 2023 at 9:41 am

      The Tesla CEO appeared in a San Francisco federal courtroom and defended himself by saying that “just because I tweet something does not mean people believe it or will act accordingly”.

      Lying sack of 💩.

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      OzarkHillbilly

      January 21, 2023 at 9:45 am

      @Scout211:And a local article about farmers in the Central Valley who were given permission this month to flood their fields to help recharge the groundwater in the area.

      That is good, really good. So much of that water ran off because the ground had been baked hard. This will help, I can’t say how much but every little bit helps.​

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      OzarkHillbilly

      January 21, 2023 at 9:47 am

      @Geminid: I think he is trying to limit the damages by being meek. Not meek enough to settle out of court tho.

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      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 9:49 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: If the water table is low that extra water should be absorbed nicely. Maybe when the ground is firm enough they’ll run disc harrows over those fields to decrease evaporation.

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      rikyrah

      January 21, 2023 at 9:50 am

      Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊

      Reply
    57. 57.

      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 9:54 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: Yeah. “How was I to know people would take that tweet so seriously? I’m just a Master of the Universe!”

      Reply
    58. 58.

      Steeplejack

      January 21, 2023 at 9:55 am

      Some early David Crosby: the Byrds, “Everybody’s Been Burned.”

      “Traction in the Rain.”

      Reply
    59. 59.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 21, 2023 at 9:55 am

      ‘Assassinated in cold blood’: the man killed protesting Georgia’s ‘Cop City’

      Belkis Terán spoke with her son, Manuel, nearly every day by WhatsApp from her home in Panama City, Panama. She also had names and numbers for some of Manuel’s friends, in case she didn’t hear from the 26-year-old who was protesting “Cop City”, a planned gigantic training facility being built in a wooded area near Atlanta, Georgia.

      So by mid-week, when she hadn’t received a message from Atlanta since Monday, she began to worry. Thursday around noon, a friend of Manuel’s messaged her with condolences. “I’m so sorry,” they wrote. “For what?” she asked.

      What a horrible way to find out your child is dead.

      Go read the whole, it is very disturbing.

      Reply
    60. 60.

      J R in WV

      January 21, 2023 at 9:56 am

      @WaterGirl: ​
       

      @TerryTime:

      The analogy I use with my Gen Z kids is that the hateful old folks are ordering for the table but not staying for the meal. Vote, and bring your friends too, or you’ll be stuck eating what they order.

      Wow, that’s really good.

      \

      the hateful old folks are ordering for the table but not staying for the meal. Vote, and bring your friends too, or you’ll be stuck eating what they order the disgusting rare liver they ordered.

      Fixed that for you guys.

      Reply
    61. 61.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 21, 2023 at 9:59 am

      @J R in WV: Don’t forget the liverwurst ala mode they ordered for dessert!

      Reply
    62. 62.

      lowtechcyclist

      January 21, 2023 at 10:01 am

      @Baud: ​
       

      @lowtechcyclist:

      I’m counting on dying before anything really bad happens.

      I’ve got a son who could live to see the beginning of the 22nd century. (Which is still a really weird thought for someone like me who was reading SF in the early 1960s.) So I can’t help but see it from the perspective of how it will affect his future.

      Reply
    63. 63.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 21, 2023 at 10:04 am

      @mrmoshpotato: ​liverwurst ala mode

      Yum!

      Reply
    64. 64.

      Ohio Mom

      January 21, 2023 at 10:05 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: In addition to walking while Black, Elijah McClain was on the autism spectrum. Half of all people killed by police have a disability: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/half-people-killed-police-suffer-mental-disability-report-n538371

      I haven’t seen any numbers on the percent of people with disability who are killed by police who are Black but I assume it is disproportionately people of color who are victims of police violence.

      Reply
    65. 65.

      lowtechcyclist

      January 21, 2023 at 10:15 am

      @tobie: ​
       

      She lobbied for the global corporate minimum tax rate of 15% and got all 130 OECD countries to sign on

      This may have been one of the biggest achievements of the admin in its first two yaers.

      A seriously impressive accomplishment. Major props to Yellen for that.

      Reply
    66. 66.

      Ohio Mom

      January 21, 2023 at 10:18 am

      @sab: I have one very specific memory of complaining as a twenty-something that there would be no Social Security for me in my old age to my aunt and her partner, and them sighing tiredly and saying, “There will be Social Security for you.”

      I have no doubt I made that claim more than once but that is the instance I remember forty years (and close to two years of retirement benefits collected) later.

      Recently I found myself sighing tiredly and telling my friend’s twenty-something son, “There will be Social Security for you.” And thus the circle of life continues on.

      Reply
    67. 67.

      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 10:21 am

      @rikyrah:

      Good morning.

      Reply
    68. 68.

      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 10:24 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: The “Cop City” shooting has been a big story locally. One long report from fox5tv.com yesterday is titled, ” ‘Cop City’ shooting: GBI identifies man killed, [others] arrested during sweep.”

      A link (maybe):

      htpps://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/cop-city-atlanta-georgia-state-patrol-trooper-injured-man-killed.amp

      Reply
    69. 69.

      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 10:31 am

      @lowtechcyclist:

      Understandable. Not having children is a big load off my mind.

      Reply
    70. 70.

      Brit in Chicago

      January 21, 2023 at 10:36 am

      @Ohio Mom: Old people vote in disproportionately large numbers. Even if current recipients were exempted—even if people currently over 50 were exempted—just the headline “bill plans to eliminate Social Security” would get large numbers of people voting against the party proposing it.  —Yes, Social Security will be here. The formula for calculating annual raises might be modified, but if it’s less favourable to recipiends the change will have to be one that is so technical that the modifiers can claim that it will not be less favourable.

      Reply
    71. 71.

      Kathleen

      January 21, 2023 at 10:51 am

      @satby: Totally agree!

      Reply
    72. 72.

      OzarkHillbilly

      January 21, 2023 at 10:55 am

      Via commentor MarkedMan over at OTB comes this jewel:

      Travis [email protected]
      Tom Jones and Jennifer Hudson gave us one of the greatest moments in music television when they impromptu performed “It’s A Man’s World” on UK’s The Voice. Wow. Just, wow.

      Wow indeed. Tom Jones, 82 and still going strong. Jennifer Hudson? Words defy.

      Reply
    73. 73.

      Omnes Omnibus

      January 21, 2023 at 10:59 am

      @The Thin Black Duke: Enlightened self-interest is uaually a good thing.  Pure self-interest is not.

      Reply
    74. 74.

      Kathleen

      January 21, 2023 at 10:59 am

      @Dorothy A. Winsor: Pandering to hatred and fear and sending outraged emails requesting donations is how they make a living. It is their grift, er “work”.

      Reply
    75. 75.

      zhena gogolia

      January 21, 2023 at 11:04 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: My husband said, “I thought you were looking at a video from the ’60s, the way it sounded!”

      Fantastic, thanks. Great break from work.

      Reply
    76. 76.

      Matt McIrvin

      January 21, 2023 at 11:11 am

      @lowtechcyclist: If my daughter lives as long as my grandmother did, she’ll live to the year 2102.

      Reply
    77. 77.

      jeffreyw

      January 21, 2023 at 11:14 am

      @Baud:

      I’m counting on dying before anything really bad happens.

      Reply
    78. 78.

      frosty

      January 21, 2023 at 11:16 am

      @Ohio Mom: I made a similar statement in the early 80s to Senator Paul Sarbanes when I saw him at the track at Johns Hopkins one morning. Something like “Social Security won’t be there when I’m old enough to get it, we might as well just cut it now.” He assured me that he would fight to protect it and it would still be there.

      And here I am getting pretty good payments once a month.

      Reply
    79. 79.

      Chief Oshkosh

      January 21, 2023 at 11:16 am

      @Baud: Agreed. Too many dim bulbs still follow Rogan, for instance. Man I hope that guy steps on a rake.

      Reply
    80. 80.

      frosty

      January 21, 2023 at 11:20 am

      @jeffreyw: ​This is one good reason why I don’t use Alexa or Siri!

      Reply
    81. 81.

      Betty Cracker

      January 21, 2023 at 11:22 am

      @Geminid: I’ve questioned whether Taddeo is the right woman for the job, partly because one of FDP’s problems (IMO) is that the leadership is too South FL-centric. But maybe her time as a student in Alabama gave her some insights into what FL Dems are up against north of Tampa (and in the interior of the entire state). She is known as a bridge-builder across county party orgs; I remember her showing up to speak at a Hillsborough County (Tampa, etc.) DEC meeting several years back. Oh well. There’s nowhere to go but up, right?

      Reply
    82. 82.

      Cameron

      January 21, 2023 at 11:23 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: Sounds like he’s using the Simpson defense: it takes two to lie, one to tell it and the other to believe it.

      Reply
    83. 83.

      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 11:26 am

      @Betty Cracker:

      No, there’s always more down.

      Reply
    84. 84.

      Ohio Mom

      January 21, 2023 at 11:26 am

      @Brit in Chicago: Well, Reagen did cut Social Security, but perhaps the changes were as you say, “so technical that the modifiers can claim that it will not be less favourable.”

      The changes made back in the early 1980s included raising the retirement age; taxing benefits; and eliminating the last four years of the orphan’s benefit (used to be that if your parent died, you would receive benefits through high school graduation, or, if you went to college, through college graduation, now everyone gets it off after high school graduation).

      There may have been other changes, I haven’t made a study of this, the examples I’ve picked up by happenstance.

      Also, Reagen raised the tax rate by which Social Security is funded, and come to think of it, another President changed how Social Security COLAs are calculated, to make them smaller (a quick google does not answer my question about which one).

      So Social Security is not immune to cuts but I think overall, it is here to stay because yes, oldsters vote.

      Reply
    85. 85.

      gene108

      January 21, 2023 at 11:30 am

      Sec. Yellen on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert”.

      Small sample size, but I think relevant to evaluate how she’d do being a spokesperson for this administration.

      Reply
    86. 86.

      Betty Cracker

      January 21, 2023 at 11:30 am

      @Baud: Thanks for the pep talk! ;-)

      Reply
    87. 87.

      Chief Oshkosh

      January 21, 2023 at 11:32 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: Having been around people who work in the justice system and law enforcement my entire adult life, and having no information about this case other than what’s in the news, I have to say that I come down firmly on the side of the environmentalists here.

      It is the exception when a cop tells the truth, full stop.

      Reply
    88. 88.

      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 11:36 am

      Via reddit.

      https://i.redd.it/l78hsgv99eda1.png

      Reply
    89. 89.

      Lapassionara

      January 21, 2023 at 11:37 am

      @Ohio Mom: I remember when Reagan raised the Social Security tax rate. Mr LP was self-employed, so we felt that hike. I think the “cap” should be raised, maybe to around $175,000. Not eliminated, but raised. I enjoy reminding people that Reagan raised taxes.

      Reply
    90. 90.

      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 11:38 am

      @Betty Cracker: Florida politics are a mystery to me, but I think I know enough to say that this will not be a quick turnaround. Whoever gets that job will have to be in it for the long haul.

      I guess I’m just glad someone wants it!

      Reply
    91. 91.

      Another Scott

      January 21, 2023 at 11:40 am

      @gene108: Haven’t clicked the link yet, but I’m reminded that she’s apparently infamous for always, always being early for meetings, etc.  Like she was sitting by herself at a table at a WHCD waiting for others to show up.

      She’s no slacker!

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    92. 92.

      citizen dave

      January 21, 2023 at 11:41 am

      @Baud: now THAT is some shade!

      Spent the last few minutes watching two tunes of Jennifer Hudson and Tom Jones on the British voice.  Why does our American version have to suck so hard?

      Reply
    93. 93.

      topclimber

      January 21, 2023 at 11:45 am

      @Geminid: Maybe Biden wants a better FLA effort come 2024. As in, don’t leave any votes on the table.

      Reply
    94. 94.

      Steeplejack

      January 21, 2023 at 11:55 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      Great stuff! Thanks.

      Reply
    95. 95.

      satby

      January 21, 2023 at 11:59 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: and this is why Twitter is still worth it.

      82, damn!

      Reply
    96. 96.

      rikyrah

      January 21, 2023 at 12:05 pm

      @TerryTime:

      And stuck with the bill

      Reply
    97. 97.

      Steeplejack

      January 21, 2023 at 12:07 pm

      @satby:

      Back in the day Tom Jones had a British TV show that was way hipper than you would think from his sort of lounge-lizard image. Lots of duets with amazing artists, including . . . CSNY.

      Reply
    98. 98.

      satby

      January 21, 2023 at 12:07 pm

      @Ohio Mom: The financial traders at the CBOT and Merch I tech supported used to say that to me all the time (they were all younger). I told them that was weird they didn’t think the Treasury notes THEY SOLD to investors weren’t secure investments. I had to explain to them that’s what SS monies are held in, backed by the full faith and credit of the government.

      Another reason the Republicans want to privatize SS.

      Reply
    99. 99.

      Josie

      January 21, 2023 at 12:11 pm

      @Ohio Mom: ​
       He also kept those with other forms of retirement money (Teacher Retirement) from receiving social security payments from our deceased spouse’s account. My husband had paid into social security for more than 40 years, but I got nothing through his account.

      Reply
    100. 100.

      satby

      January 21, 2023 at 12:11 pm

      @Lapassionara: the cap should be eliminated. The $175,000 suggested figure is already about 25 years old.

      Reply
    101. 101.

      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 12:12 pm

      @satby: Johnny Mathis is 87 and he’s still singing. At least, he and a band played the Paramount Theater in Charlottesville last fall.

      Reply
    102. 102.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 21, 2023 at 12:18 pm

      Swallow whatever you’re drinking, and click.

      Driftglass tweet whose embedding breaks the margins wildly!

      Reply
    103. 103.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 21, 2023 at 12:19 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: Silent George has something to say? Who knew

      Reply
    104. 104.

      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 12:24 pm

      @mrmoshpotato:

      Why is W teaching a class on Barack Obama?

      Reply
    105. 105.

      lowtechcyclist

      January 21, 2023 at 12:27 pm

      @Baud: Santos’ “groundbreaking work with imaginary numbers.” Brilliant!

      Reply
    106. 106.

      Miss Bianca

      January 21, 2023 at 12:30 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: AAAAGH

      Now I’m not sure whether I feel more like barfing or laughing wildly (I know, I know, say it with me, gang: por que no los dos?).

      Reply
    107. 107.

      StringOnAStick

      January 21, 2023 at 12:34 pm

      @Ohio Mom: My late mother worked for the Social Security Administration for over 30 years, and when I said to get as a teen that it wouldn’t be there for me, she said the people would never stand for that.  She also voted hard right R her entire life and thanks to RW media, never knew that cutting SS and Medicare is a big part of the GOP agenda.  My 91 year old dad, who uses tons of Medicare money every week, still votes hard R, though he now admits that tRump is “a creep” but I guarantee that if that idiot gets the nomination in2024, my dad will vote for him because he hates D’s more.

      Reply
    108. 108.

      Citizen Alan

      January 21, 2023 at 12:35 pm

      @Baud:   Same here.  If I make it to 72,  I am liquidating everything, traveling Europe until the money starts to run out, and then going to Amsterdam to take myself out in some sort of massive Is drug fueled orgy.  I am Absolutely terrified at the thought of making it to my eighties.

      Reply
    109. 109.

      mrmoshpotato

      January 21, 2023 at 12:35 pm

      @Miss Bianca: Hehehe!  (You didn’t even consider screaming?  Scrlaubarf?)

      Reply
    110. 110.

      lowtechcyclist

      January 21, 2023 at 12:40 pm

      @satby: ​
       

      The financial traders at the CBOT and Merch I tech supported used to say that to me all the time (they were all younger). I told them that was weird they didn’t think the Treasury notes THEY SOLD to investors weren’t secure investments. I had to explain to them that’s what SS monies are held in, backed by the full faith and credit of the government.

      Back in the 1990s, in the pre-Internet days when they could get away with crap like that, the propaganda was that the Social Security trust fund had nothing in it but a drawer full of IOUs.

      I suppose technically they weren’t lying, because ‘an IOU’ has a pretty loose definition. But to most people, an IOU is a scrap of paper with something like “IOU $5” written on it, just an acknowledgment of the debt and no more. To characterize U.S. Treasury instruments as ‘IOUs’ was deliberately and blatantly misleading, and of course the object was to make people believe that Social Security was doomed.

      That particular line of attack seemed to go away once the Internet enabled people to look up things like that.

      Reply
    111. 111.

      tobie

      January 21, 2023 at 12:42 pm

      Dealing with eldercare from afar is exhausting. I’ve spent hours this morning trying to get the nursing home to prescribe something to my father who is bouncing from one panic attack to the next, not sleeping, having stress-induced asthma attacks, etc. Was told by the nurse at the facility that Xanax is hard to get because it’s a narcotic. I’m about to explode from my own stress and my frustration with the nursing staff. On what planet is xanax a narcotic????

      Reply
    112. 112.

      Amir Khalid

      January 21, 2023 at 12:43 pm

      A very idle question: what is the opposite of embiggen?

      Reply
    113. 113.

      Geminid

      January 21, 2023 at 12:44 pm

      @StringOnAStick:

      …because he hates Dems more.

      Republicans are on the wrong side of public opinion on so many issues that “negative partisanship” is their best tool now. Sometimes I think it’s their only one left.

      Reply
    114. 114.

      James E Powell

      January 21, 2023 at 12:46 pm

      I usually agree with President Joe and while I admire his confidence, for me, it would be very hard to top the feeling I had on November 4, 2008.

      Reply
    115. 115.

      CaseyL

      January 21, 2023 at 12:46 pm

      I really like that Colbert interview with Yellen.  It’s amazing to me how many high-ranking government officials come onto his program.  I’m not amazed at his skill in interviewing them: the man is a master at his art.

      Meanwhile, I’m feeling pretty good about myself.

      Had two errands to run, and have already gotten ’em done (it’s not yet 10:00 AM here on the Left Coast).

      I am also gradually, in baby steps, getting back into fused glass.  I’m going to do a memorial of Jeannie, my cat who died last November (fuck cancer).  She was a blue-grey, like a Russian Blue, and I’m currently doing some test runs on color mixing to try and get that shade.

      OTOH, I did get up at 5:30 today, for no reason, and will probably want/need a nap by mid afternoon.  Ah, well.

      Reply
    116. 116.

      zhena gogolia

      January 21, 2023 at 12:47 pm

      @Citizen Alan: You might be in good shape in your 80s. You just don’t know. I have many friends in their eighties who are active and doing well.

      Reply
    117. 117.

      Citizen Alan

      January 21, 2023 at 12:47 pm

      @OzarkHillbilly:  I have said for many years now that the best thing that ever happened to Jennifer Hudson was going out in the 4th round of American idol.   Her somewhat unjust elimination early in the contest made her Is a household name while freeing her from the owner’s contracts that the winners are subjected to.

      Reply
    118. 118.

      Baud

      January 21, 2023 at 12:48 pm

      @CaseyL:

      👍

      Reply
    119. 119.

      Subsole

      January 21, 2023 at 12:48 pm

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      Of all the Findings Out that are long overdue in this country, for some odd reason his is one of the ones I am most looking forward to…

      Reply
    120. 120.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 21, 2023 at 12:48 pm

      @lowtechcyclist:

      Back in the 1990s, in the pre-Internet days when they could get away with crap like that, the propaganda was that the Social Security trust fund had nothing in it but a drawer full of IOUs.

      That lasted well into the Bush years. Al Franken on his radio show and in debates he did used to off to pay fifty cents on the dollar to anyone who wanted to unload their worthless government IOUs

      @Amir Khalid:

      A very idle question: what is the opposite of embiggen?

      besmallify

      Reply
    121. 121.

      frosty

      January 21, 2023 at 12:48 pm

      @Citizen Alan: ​ I am Absolutely terrified at the thought of making it to my eighties.

      If you’re healthy when you make it to 72 I expect you’ll be changing your mind.

      Reply
    122. 122.

      Subsole

      January 21, 2023 at 12:49 pm

      @rikyrah:

      Good morning!

      Reply
    123. 123.

      zhena gogolia

      January 21, 2023 at 12:52 pm

      @Steeplejack: Wow, I love this CSNYJ group!

      Reply
    124. 124.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      January 21, 2023 at 12:54 pm

      @tobie: Eldercare from a distance is nearly impossible. The people I know who have tried it usually wind up moving their old person closer to them.

      Reply
    125. 125.

      Citizen Alan

      January 21, 2023 at 12:58 pm

      @zhena gogolia:  I will turn 80 in 2049, by which point, too much of this planet will be uninhabitable for an 80 year old guy to make it on his own.  It’s gonna be like thunder do.e for most of this country in the 2050s.

      Reply
    126. 126.

      tobie

      January 21, 2023 at 12:59 pm

      @Dorothy A. Winsor: I tried to convince my parents of this many times but they refused to listen. It’s one of the many reasons I’m at my wit’s end.

      Reply
    127. 127.

      trollhattan

      January 21, 2023 at 1:03 pm

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist: ​Zehrschrinkenung?

      Reply
    128. 128.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 21, 2023 at 1:03 pm

      @Citizen Alan: I alternate between optimism (those science-y type people will figure something out) and wondering why exactly I quit smoking (28 years ago last November, but every once in a great while, I’m tempted…)

      Reply
    129. 129.

      CaseyL

      January 21, 2023 at 1:05 pm

      @frosty:

      I am in my mid-60s.  My Aunt is in her late 70s, my Mom her late 80s, and I have two close friends in their late 70s and early 80s, respectively.  A small sample set, but indicative:  my Aunt has been fiercely athletic her whole life; my Mom and Friend A have definitely not been active since their youth; Friend B has been “normal active,” i.e.,  walker/hiker.

      All of them have seen their quality of life drastically decline in the past year.  All have chronic health issues that developed in the last 5-ish years which are now really affecting their daily lives.  All are now in the stage of life where any medical emergency could be the last one.

      So my impression is that one’s 60s are the last really good decade –  for travel, for adventuring, for being daring. Life starts to really kick your ass once you’re in your 70s. (And, as my Aunt illustrates, being incredibly active is no fountain of youth!)

      Reply
    130. 130.

      trollhattan

      January 21, 2023 at 1:06 pm

      The Ukrainian sense of humour remains intact. See, for example, this new museum diorama commemorating Russian Warship Moskva.

      https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1616807443597778945?cxt=HHwWgoDTnbjzhvAsAAAA

      Reply
    131. 131.

      Omnes Omnibus

      January 21, 2023 at 1:07 pm

      @Amir Khalid: ​
        Disembiggen obviously.

      Reply
    132. 132.

      Steeplejack

      January 21, 2023 at 1:11 pm

      @zhena gogolia:

      Inorite. Crosby’s death has resurfaced a lot of circa ’70 stuff on YouTube and social media. Here’s Tom Jones with the now mostly forgotten Janis Joplin.

      Reply
    133. 133.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 1:16 pm

      @tobie: A friend of mine is dealing with panic attacks right now, and her doctor prescribed something called Adderax.

      It’s apparently in the antihistamine family.  Only a guess on my part, but I am guessing that it must interrupt the feedback loop that fuels the panic when the anxiety starts.

      Can you suggest that as an option?

      Reply
    134. 134.

      satby

      January 21, 2023 at 1:25 pm

      @lowtechcyclist: they all had internet, this was 2009. What they didn’t have was the intelligence / curiosity to look it up. I dared them to when they expressed skepticism, they did, and I never heard another word out of them about it. People believe what their “trusted sources” tell them about it. They heard worthless IOUs, they believed it until I proved them wrong. Only one skirmish in a very long war; but it’s winnable.

      Reply
    135. 135.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      January 21, 2023 at 1:29 pm

      @tobie: When the first partner dies, things change

      Reply
    136. 136.

      satby

      January 21, 2023 at 1:52 pm

      @satby: “Only one skirmish in a very long war; but it’s winnable.”

      And on that subject, historian Thomas Zimmer on an encounter with misinformation. Good article. He’s less optimistic than me.

      Reply
    137. 137.

      tobie

      January 21, 2023 at 1:58 pm

      @Dorothy A. Winsor: I suspect you’re right. Thanks for the insight.

      Reply
    138. 138.

      tobie

      January 21, 2023 at 2:02 pm

      @WaterGirl: I’ll keep this in mind to suggest to the docs. Xanax is stop-gap. It’s not a good longterm drug.

      Reply
    139. 139.

      frosty

      January 21, 2023 at 2:03 pm

      @CaseyL: ​Everyone is different. We’re traveling in our 70s. Age has slowed us down; no backcountry hiking, in fact it’s more like 1-3 mile walks on smooth trails now. I expect it may slow down in the next 10 years though. You’re right about the 60s, they were pretty carefree. I find myself now wondering what’s going to take me out. And when. But until then, I’ll keep moving.​

      Reply
    140. 140.

      Kelly

      January 21, 2023 at 2:06 pm

      Mom is 86. Lives next door. Was a backpacker, cross country skier, rode along on countless wilderness rafting trips. After we all finished high school Dad and her moved to Alaska where they lived in a trailer on road construction sites. They’d start at the end of a logging road and build more road. Dad ran dozers and graders. She sometimes ran a roller, sometimes was construction camp cook.

      Her legs started getting week two years ago. Mysterious pain in her legs and feet. Most recently slow to heal sores on her legs and feet. This summer she asked me to mow her yard for the first time since I was a teen. My brother finally persuaded her to see podiatrist. I took her in last week. A young fellow who was a big help to Mrs. Kelly a few years ago. Diagnosed poor circulation. He set up appointments with a wound care clinic and a vascular specialist which I will drive her to next week.
      My brother is also retired and lives 5 miles away so I have lots of help. He said “Buckle up it’s gonna be a ride”.

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    141. 141.

      WaterGirl

      January 21, 2023 at 2:10 pm

      @tobie:  This same friend was given xanax when she was going through another patch of anxiety attacks about 7 years ago.  It got so bad then that she even stayed with me for awhile.

      For what it’s worth, she regrets taking the xanax because, as I understand it from her, it can have long-term side effects, even though you stop taking it.

      It’s so frustrating to feel helpless from a distance.  I hope you can give them the nudge they need to figure out a solution.  There has to be a solution, and shrugging and saying “well, we can’t give him xanax is most definitely not a solution.

      Be persistent.

      Reply
    142. 142.

      Another Scott

      January 21, 2023 at 2:10 pm

      @Citizen Alan: I saw a couple of kids on their bikes when we were on our walk, and thought to myself, “Those kids will probably see 2100…”

      A guy I went to school with didn’t see 20.  Some good friends died in their 50s.  I have no issues to speak of, and I’m in my early 60s.  Other than being stiffer than I’d like, and carrying more pounds than I’d like, I don’t feel like what I imagined a 60+ year old would feel like when I was decades younger.

      Don’t count yourself out, and don’t think that 80 is horrible.  You don’t, and can’t, know until you’re there.

      I saw in the news that the oldest woman recently died at 118…  ;-)

      Hang in there.

      Cheers,
      Scott.

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    143. 143.

      kalakal

      January 21, 2023 at 2:31 pm

      @Another Scott: I’m with you on this and also in early 60s. Every birthday I cheer my self up by checking which evil figure from history ( or just despicable ) I’ve outlived. So far I’ve outlasted the major Nazis, I’ve got about 10 years to go to outlive Stalin, after that Thatcher.

      I intend to hang on

      Reply
    144. 144.

      zhena gogolia

      January 21, 2023 at 2:37 pm

      @Steeplejack: I haven’t forgotten her!

      I think Janis liked Tom!

      Reply
    145. 145.

      Miss Bianca

      January 21, 2023 at 2:39 pm

      @Steeplejack: Err…Janis Joplin “mostly forgotten”?

      Reply
    146. 146.

      zhena gogolia

      January 21, 2023 at 2:43 pm

      @Miss Bianca: I hope that’s not true!

      Reply
    147. 147.

      Omnes Omnibus

      January 21, 2023 at 2:45 pm

      @kalakal: ​
        I intend to be a mourner at your funeral.

      Reply
    148. 148.

      zhena gogolia

      January 21, 2023 at 2:45 pm

      I highly recommend Tom Jones’s 2010 album Praise and Blame.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Praise_%26_Blame

      Reply
    149. 149.

      tobie

      January 21, 2023 at 2:46 pm

      @WaterGirl: I think Xanax is okay for a few days but long-term it can lead to dependency and is sometimes associated with mood swings. I have a referral for a geriatric psychiatrist in Tampa, and I’m hoping she can give me the names of a few people closer to where my folks live. Given my father’s many ailments, it’s impossible for me to figure out what would work for him, what’s contraindicated, etc.

      That is very sweet of you to make a place for your friend in your home. Knowing your not alone makes such a difference when you’re suffering from anxiety.

      Reply
    150. 150.

      eclare

      January 21, 2023 at 3:18 pm

      @tobie:   I took a low dose, slow release Xanax for a few years to get me through a rough patch.  When I finally figured out my job was the cause of my anxiety, I quit the job and Xanax, with no withdrawal symptoms.

      Good luck with your dad, it’s hard.

      Reply
    151. 151.

      Steeplejack

      January 21, 2023 at 3:20 pm

      @Miss Bianca:

      She had a relatively small body of work and doesn’t get much attention these days. That’s all I’m saying. I’m not denying her talent.

      Reply
    152. 152.

      Miss Bianca

      January 21, 2023 at 3:43 pm

      @Steeplejack: You must not live out west – JJ is still on the radio plenty out here!

      Reply
    153. 153.

      zhena gogolia

      January 21, 2023 at 4:13 pm

      @Miss Bianca: He lives in the Swamp!

      Reply
    154. 154.

      El Muneco

      January 21, 2023 at 4:55 pm

      @Steeplejack: I saw an interview with Jones where he pointed out that when the Beatles were gaining popularity in Liverpool (with excursions to Hamburg), he and his mates were performing the exact same kind of stuff in Cardiff. They got signed earlier, had more promotional muscle behind them, and were probably more talented – but if circumstances had been switched, Jones would have a much different reputation now.

      Reply
    155. 155.

      Steeplejack

      January 21, 2023 at 5:16 pm

      @El Muneco:

      In retrospect, maybe Jones had an Elvis/​Col. Parker kind of situation? Blinkered, tyrannical management. It’s hard to reconcile the (extremely) middle-of-the-road stuff he released back then with the range he has subsequently been shown to have.

      Reply
    156. 156.

      Steeplejack

      January 21, 2023 at 5:20 pm

      @Another Scott:

      “Yes, my 80s were horrible, but once I hit 90 it was smooth sailing!”

      Reply
    157. 157.

      Steeplejack

      January 21, 2023 at 5:27 pm

      @zhena gogolia:

      [Moe voice] Why, I oughta . . . 👊

      Reply
    158. 158.

      Ruckus

      January 21, 2023 at 6:18 pm

      @Ohio Mom:

      Those of us who paid into SS for a lot of decades would really, really, really like to see SS continue, if for no other reason (and there are a lot of millions of reasons why it should) than we absolutely need SS to survive. And if many of us have no reasonable ability to survive because rethuglicans manage to cut SS (at this point they can not – but we had SFB as president so who the hell knows what will happen next) I imagine that it will not go or end well for rethuglicans.

      At all.

      In any way, shape or form.

      Reply

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