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Fun Read: Nancy Pelosi, Liberated & Loving It

by Anne Laurie|  January 24, 20235:50 pm| 61 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, NANCY SMASH!

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“I think you want to enjoy being old. I don’t think you want to spend your final days fighting with Kevin McCarthy about how many seats you get on Appropriations.” https://t.co/tHzKZBfVzY

— Nancy Cook (@nancook) January 21, 2023

Surprising narrator, still a fun read. Gift (unpaywalled) read:

…I went to lunch with Nancy Pelosi at the Four Seasons to find out how she was faring, now that she has gone from being one of the most powerful women in the world — second in line to the presidency — and one of the most formidable speakers in American history to a mere House backbencher.

I was expecting King Lear, howling at the storm, but I found Gene Kelly, singing in the rain. Pelosi was not crying in her soup. She was basking as she scarfed down French fries, a truffle-butter roll and chocolate-covered macadamia nuts — all before the main course. She was literally in the pink, ablaze in a hot-pink pantsuit and matching Jimmy Choo stilettos, shooting the breeze about Broadway, music and sports. Showing off her four-inch heels, the 82-year-old said, “I highly recommend suede because it’s like a bedroom slipper.”

Fans dropped by our booth to thank Pelosi, and women in the restaurant gave me thumbs-ups, simply because I was sitting with her.

“I wonder, Maureen, girl to girl, I keep thinking I should feel a little more, I don’t know,” she hesitated, looking for the right word. Over the course of our conversation, she said the word was “regretful,” and she thought about it in church, and during morning and night prayers, but she just wasn’t feeling it. “It’s just the time, and that’s it. Upward and onward. I’m thrilled with the transition. I think it was beautiful.”…

Pelosi said she found it “particularly concerning” when McCarthy “went up to Gaetz on the floor. That seemed to be unnecessary.” She said, why not “work it out in the bathroom” or some other private space. “To me, it was indicative of the disrespect they had for the Congress of the United States, that they would not have had their act together. It was a cause of wonder that they had to take 15 votes. How does that bode for what comes next?”

Pelosi did not accept an invitation to sit with her protégé, the new minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries, for the speaker votes. She did not want to be the Godfather whispering in the ear of Michael Corleone. She chose to sit near the back with her old friends in the California delegation, Eshoo, Doris Matsui and Mike Thompson…

[I don’t see Kevin McCarthy making ‘jokes’ about threatening Jeffries with his mighty gavel — Squeaker McCarthy would worry that his body might never be found. Kev is not a smart man; doubt that, even today, he understands just how thoroughly Speaker Pelosi pantsed him, time & again.]

Eshoo said Pelosi does not need to cling because her tenure was “jaw-dropping with a real sense of awe about the place and who came before us.” Her reputation, Eshoo said, “will stand the way the Washington Monument stands. They can’t chisel away at that.”…

I asked Pelosi how the savage attack on her husband of nearly 60 years, Paul, had affected her decision to step down. The beating with a hammer by a QAnon believer left him looking like Frankenstein under his dashing hat, Alexandra said, and with an incapacitated hand that the doctors thought he might lose. His daughter said he has handled it gracefully because he’s “a really cool cat.”

“I was probably going to go anyway,” Nancy Pelosi said. But, she added, “say we won by 20 votes and it was a big thing, I might have stayed. It’s true that I had two thoughts in mind when I went to the floor, to stay or not to stay. It was time to move on.”

She said that in 2016: “If Hillary had won, I could have left. But I was not going to let Donald Trump have his way with the government.” She was also irritated that she was constantly asked if she was too old for the job when Mitch McConnell, who’s about the same age, wasn’t…

As we left the Four Seasons, Pelosi showed me a turquoise ring she was wearing given to her by Afghan female artisans and said she “would like to see Congress be a stronger voice for women in the world.” She also said she would like to help the women in Congress in any way she could.

Won’t she still be a celebrity, even without her old title and big staff and wide balcony?

“I was a woman of great power, and now I’ll be a woman of great influence,” she said. “Whatever that happens to be.”

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    61Comments

    1. 1.

      Baud

      January 24, 2023 at 5:51 pm

      Surprising narrator

      You ain’t kidding.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      schrodingers_cat

      January 24, 2023 at 5:52 pm

      NP rocks.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      rikyrah

      January 24, 2023 at 5:58 pm

      Nancy Smash rocks🤗🤗🤗

      Reply
    4. 4.

      Professor Bigfoot

      January 24, 2023 at 5:59 pm

      If she were a bit more foul-mouthed, she could be Chrisjen Avasarala(from The Expanse).😉

      What an awesome woman, and brilliant leader. May she enjoy the hell out of the time she has left with us.

      Reply
    5. 5.

      schrodingers_cat

      January 24, 2023 at 6:00 pm

      @rikyrah: You were right that the air fryer is a game changer for me.

      From the last thread:

      Going to make naan* in the airfryer to go along with palak paneer and dhaba chicken that I made yesterday.

      Dhabas are no fuss eateries along the highways in north India. They are known for their delicious and spicy food.

      (* taking a short cut and using ready made pizza dough from the grocery store, paneer was also store brought.)

      ETA: Has anyone baked in their air fryer. I am going to attempt making cake.

      Reply
    6. 6.

      trollhattan

      January 24, 2023 at 6:04 pm

      Nancy SMASH will find ways to stay engaged and relevant. Cat-herding I can easily believe is draining, sometimes to the extreme.

      The most powerful woman in US political history, and we had her when she mattered most.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      dmsilev

      January 24, 2023 at 6:09 pm

      Eshoo said Pelosi does not need to cling because her tenure was “jaw-dropping with a real sense of awe about the place and who came before us.” Her reputation, Eshoo said, “will stand the way the Washington Monument stands. They can’t chisel away at that.”…

      Truth. She has one hell of a legacy as Speaker.

      Reply
    8. 8.

      Jeffrey

      January 24, 2023 at 6:12 pm

      @Professor Bigfoot: I just rewatched all of The Expanse. I wonder how Shohreh Aghdashloo who plays Avasarala felt about swearing like a sailor. She doesn’t seem the type to use the language.

      Reply
    9. 9.

      Kent

      January 24, 2023 at 6:16 pm

      @trollhattan: Also the most underestimated.

      Reply
    10. 10.

      Darkrose

      January 24, 2023 at 6:16 pm

      Can I tell you how much I love her sitting with my rep Doris? Italian grandma and Japanese grandma FTW!

      Reply
    11. 11.

      Ohio Mom

      January 24, 2023 at 6:19 pm

      I read that column when it first came out and thought, Pelosi is so talented, or maybe the word is magical, that she made possible a Maureen Dowd column I enjoyed and read all of.

      My other thought was, “French fries, truffle-butter roll and chocolate-covered macadamia nuts — all before the main course“? Adding to that what I’ve read elsewhere, that Pelosi often has chocolate ice cream for breakfast and hot dogs for lunch in the Congressional lunchroom, and maybe everything we’ve been told about eating healthily is a lie.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      Nicole

      January 24, 2023 at 6:20 pm

      Oh, it brings me joy to see her living her best life.  Also, now I want a truffle-butter roll.

      Reply
    13. 13.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 24, 2023 at 6:20 pm

      @Ohio Mom: Yeah, but you just know she’s one of those weirdos who thinks a pint of ice cream contains more than one serving.

       

      What?

      Reply
    14. 14.

      Betty

      January 24, 2023 at 6:23 pm

      If I were taking a backseat as Nancy is doing, I would certainly dish the four inch heels. I guess she wants to maintain her stylish image.

      Reply
    15. 15.

      Mart

      January 24, 2023 at 6:25 pm

      Assume that was the Four Seasons adjacent to the porn shop?

      Reply
    16. 16.

      John S.

      January 24, 2023 at 6:28 pm

      @Jeffrey: Shohreh Aghdashloo is amazing as Avasarala. She deserved a lot more credit for that role.

      Reply
    17. 17.

      KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))

      January 24, 2023 at 6:36 pm

      Nancy is the most powerful, influential woman in US political history, and also she has the MOST beautiful coats! I seriously covet this soft pink coat, and that red coat she wears in the iconic photo of her striding out of Congress in shades with her hands in her pockets.

      OK, shallow, I know. She has been a trailblazer and, probably, the most powerful and effective Speaker in a century.

      But damn! The woman can dress!

      Reply
    18. 18.

      Betty Cracker

      January 24, 2023 at 6:45 pm

      It was time to pass the baton, but it will never not be infuriating that a violent QAnon loser was a factor in the decision. History turns on random creeps all the time, but it’s still appalling when you see it happen. I hope that shithead rots in jail for the rest of his miserable life.

      Reply
    19. 19.

      zhena gogolia

      January 24, 2023 at 6:45 pm

      @KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager)): In the full-length picture in my paper copy of the NYT, she also has on pale-blue pants with knife-edge creases in them. I don’t know how she does it.

      ETA: I see from the digital picture that they’re actually royal blue, not pale blue as in my crappily printed paper newspaper.

      Reply
    20. 20.

      oatler

      January 24, 2023 at 6:50 pm

      @Jeffrey:

      “Eat poo-poos, Brett.”

      Reply
    21. 21.

      different-church-lady

      January 24, 2023 at 6:55 pm

      @Ohio Mom: She must have the metabolism of a hummingbird.

      Reply
    22. 22.

      dmsilev

      January 24, 2023 at 6:57 pm

      @different-church-lady: Hopefully without the insane level of territorial aggression.

      Reply
    23. 23.

      schrodingers_cat

      January 24, 2023 at 6:58 pm

      @KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager)): I was going to say the same thing. I love her coats and her style in general.

      Reply
    24. 24.

      Geminid

      January 24, 2023 at 7:00 pm

      @Betty Cracker: I think that Speaker Pelosi had made her mind up before Paul Pelosi was attacked.

      But yes, someone who hacks up a senior with a hammer should get the maximum sentence with enhancements. Some people should be incarcerated and this guy is one of them.

      Reply
    25. 25.

      kindness

      January 24, 2023 at 7:01 pm

      Nancy Smash has no fu**s left to give.  It’s wonderful.  She deserves every bit of it.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      MomSense

      January 24, 2023 at 7:04 pm

      @schrodingers_cat:

      No, but the air fryer is the best way to cook salmon.

      Reply
    27. 27.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 24, 2023 at 7:04 pm

      @oatler: Speaking of Bretts….. surprised this is getting more attention

      PARK CITY, UTAH — “We’re getting more tips,” Amy Herdy announced Friday night after the Sundance Film Festival premiere of “Justice,” a documentary she produced about the sexual assault allegations against Supreme Court Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh.
      The film’s existence was a surprise, with the festival only revealing on Thursday, its opening night, that it was making a very last-minute addition to the lineup: the first documentary from “Swingers” and “The Bourne Identity” director Doug Liman. Within half an hour of the news getting out, Liman said in the post-screening Q&A, the film team started hearing from people who had sent the FBI tips before Kavanaugh’s confirmation, which the agency did not further investigate.
      Suddenly, what was finished began anew. The tips were compelling enough for the team to start investigating and filming again with plans to add footage to the completed film, Liman said. In a wild and rare move, the finished documentary had converted back to a work in progress.

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    28. 28.

      rikyrah

      January 24, 2023 at 7:08 pm

      @schrodingers_cat:

      I have learned how to make easy cobbler. (Blackberry, or peach)

      If I don’t have store bought pastry, I will use cake mix, combined with oatmeal, put the pads of  butter on top. If only the cake mix, too mushy.

       

      I did make chess pies (a custard type pie)in the air fryer. I cooked them on 350 for the first one…burned the top.

       

      But, 45 minutes at 340 was perfection.

       

      Next up, brownies

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    29. 29.

      guachi

      January 24, 2023 at 7:09 pm

      Saw this line…

      I was expecting King Lear, howling at the storm, but I found Gene Kelly, singing in the rain.

      …and I knew it had to be Maureen Down. It reads just like a DougJBalloon parody special. It was! It was Maureen Dowd. Doug J mocks her so well.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      HinTN

      January 24, 2023 at 7:10 pm

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

      which the agency did not further investigate

      That, in and of itself, needs to be investigated

      ETA: Can an internal complaint to the IG kick that off?

      Reply
    31. 31.

      Steeplejack

      January 24, 2023 at 7:11 pm

      News alert:

      This is going to get awkward when it comes out Jimmy Carter has been leaving classified documents in all of the houses he builds for Habitat for Humanity.

      — Olivier Knox (@OKnox) January 24, 2023

      Reply
    32. 32.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 24, 2023 at 7:14 pm

      @HinTN: the linked article is very much a movie review, but

      The public information office of the Supreme Court did not return The Post’s request for comment on the documentary. The FBI’s national press office did not have a comment on the documentary but reiterated that their services in a nomination process are limited to fact-finding and background investigations. “The scope of the background investigation is requested by the White House,” an agency spokeswoman told The Post in a statement. “The FBI does not have the independent authority to expand the scope of a supplemental background investigation outside the requesting agency’s parameters.”

      there might now be conflicts between the Executive and the Judicial branches? fukifino

      ETA: Thinking back, I seem to recall the limited scope and time of the investigation was part of the deal between Jeff Flake, who was very emo about it all, and Chris Coons. But there’s a lot of sewage under the bridge since then

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Elizabelle

      January 24, 2023 at 7:18 pm

      @Steeplejack: papering the walls with them, yet.

      Reply
    34. 34.

      karen marie

      January 24, 2023 at 7:21 pm

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist:   It was known at the time that the FBI couldn’t investigate without specific direction from the WH – which is what happened.  The WH directed the FBI to do a very narrow and limited investigation, giving the WH – and Republicans – the ability to blow smoke up everyone’s ass and claim there had been a “full” investigation.  This is not new information.  The new part is having more people on the record with regard to Kavanaugh’s grab-ass ways.

      Reply
    35. 35.

      Motivated Seller

      January 24, 2023 at 7:21 pm

      Pelosi puff piece aside, Maureen Dowd is a worthless journalist.  I guess The Former Guy stopped returning her calls, so she had to attach her lamprey’s kiss on some other warm body.

      Reply
    36. 36.

      David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      January 24, 2023 at 7:24 pm

      What a woman

      Nancy is an honest liberal… Nancy stands right up and says ‘This is who I am’.

      ***
      She is a decent hardworking person. She has more ability than people recognize and I think it is an unfortunate thing.

      One of the reasons Nancy’s abilities are not appreciated is she is a beautiful woman. I would hate to have gone through life as a beautiful woman because they all too often get discounted by virtue of their abilities. And Nancy’s got more ability than people give her credit for. I think she is going to do a good job for the party.

      ~ Dick Armey (R-TX) 2002

      Reply
    37. 37.

      MomSense

      January 24, 2023 at 7:25 pm

      @Steeplejack:

      HA!!

      Reply
    38. 38.

      Gvg

      January 24, 2023 at 7:27 pm

      @HinTN: They were ordered not to. It came out at the time. Their orders pretty much made the investigation predetermined useless but looked like they were doing something. I think it was the AG, the first one, gave secret orders limiting the investigation and it leaked or Congress asked the details and got them but they couldn’t get them changed…this was published while the investigation was going on. In the Post and I think the NYTs.

      Reply
    39. 39.

      jnfr

      January 24, 2023 at 7:28 pm

      I love Nancy Pelosi so much. I have such a deep respect and admiration for how she has done this incredibly difficult job, and all through the Trump years too. I love to see her happy now.

      Reply
    40. 40.

      Baud

      January 24, 2023 at 7:28 pm

      @David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:

      I would hate to have gone through life as a beautiful woman because they all too often get discounted by virtue of their abilities

       
      I hate it.

      Reply
    41. 41.

      Steeplejack

      January 24, 2023 at 7:37 pm

      @Baud:

      On the other hand, I would hate to go through life as Dick Armey.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      Mr. Bemused Senior

      January 24, 2023 at 7:49 pm

      @Steeplejack:

      Bluebottle: I don’t like this man…

      Seagoon: I don’t like him, either.

      Eccles: I don’t like him, too.

      Dyall: How do you think I feel!? I happen to be him!

      The Goon Show: The Silver Dubloons

      Reply
    43. 43.

      lowtechcyclist

      January 24, 2023 at 7:52 pm

      @rikyrah:

      Cobbler is easy, that’s the great thing about it.  Here’s Aunt Ibbie Stringfellow’s recipe:

      1) Have the fruit (peaches, blackberries, guava, whatever!) ready: rinsed off, and sliced if it needs slicing.

      2) Mix: 1 cup flour, 1/2 cup sugar, 1/2 Tbsp baking powder, 1/2 tsp salt. Once they’re mixed, mix in 1/2 cup milk and 1/4 cup vegetable oil.

      3) Put the fruit in an 8″x8″ baking dish, pour the stuff from (2) over it, bake at 350º for ~40 minutes.

      That’s it. I don’t do much baking, but even I can handle this simple a recipe.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      WaterGirl

      January 24, 2023 at 7:55 pm

      @Betty Cracker: In case it makes you feel any better, my theory is that Nancy SMASH was going to step away completely and not stay in Congress.  But she was not going to let it look like they pushed her out, so she is staying in congress for one more term.

      She said the attack absolutely influenced her decision.  That’s how I believe it influenced her.

      Reply
    45. 45.

      Mike in NC

      January 24, 2023 at 7:59 pm

      Nancy Pelosi should (and probably does) consider the two impeachments of Putin’s Puppet the highlight of her distinguished career.

      Reply
    46. 46.

      Betty Cracker

      January 24, 2023 at 8:12 pm

      @guachi: Dowd is THE WORST. Her punishment for the relentless banality is that she has to be Dowd. That must suck!

      @WaterGirl: Good point — thanks! I just hate that the rat bastard had any influence at all, you know?

      Reply
    47. 47.

      KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))

      January 24, 2023 at 8:17 pm

      @zhena gogolia: She’s just so (apparently) easily elegant! I mean, it can’t be easy to look that elegant all the time, any more than it can be easy to corral the Democratic caucus and get them all to vote on must-pass legislation. But she manages, every day. She’s a remarkable woman.

      Reply
    48. 48.

      David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      January 24, 2023 at 8:24 pm

      Nancy turns 83 in March. She’s been in Congress 36 years. She would be 85 at the start of a next term. From a practical point, even if we had retained Congress I think this would have been her last term.

      Reply
    49. 49.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      January 24, 2023 at 8:28 pm

      @David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: I’m very surprised she said that about being unsure about stepping down. I thought it was pretty well established that was her plan after the mid-terms

      Reply
    50. 50.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      January 24, 2023 at 8:36 pm

      @Betty Cracker: Being Dowd is both her crime and her punishment

      Reply
    51. 51.

      WaterGirl

      January 24, 2023 at 8:42 pm

      @Betty Cracker: I know.

      Reply
    52. 52.

      Frankensteinbeck

      January 24, 2023 at 8:59 pm

      @Baud:

      Thank God you’re pretty.

      Reply
    53. 53.

      James E Powell

      January 24, 2023 at 9:09 pm

      @WaterGirl:

      Reminds me a bit of Dolly Parton’s interview with Barbara Walters – “I’m sure of myself”

      Reply
    54. 54.

      apocalipstick

      January 24, 2023 at 9:30 pm

      Just a perfect example of how useless and tone-deaf Dowd is. Anyone who thinks Nancy Smash will be ‘raging like King Lear’ hasn’t paid a damn bit of attention for the last twenty years.

      Reply
    55. 55.

      Enhanced Voting Techniques

      January 24, 2023 at 9:39 pm

      She was also irritated that she was constantly asked if she was too old for the job when Mitch McConnell, who’s about the same age, wasn’t…

      To be fair, she did her job, McConnell, not so much.

      Reply
    56. 56.

      Anyway

      January 24, 2023 at 9:46 pm

      Another fan of Madame Speaker’s effortless, elegant style here.  Glad she’s getting  a well-deserved victory lap for an amazing career!

      Reply
    57. 57.

      Fake Irishman

      January 24, 2023 at 9:51 pm

      @KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager)):

      Nothing at all shallow about appreciating clothes. That coat she wore when she strode out of that meeting with Trump in the iconic photo (I love how she is just casually putting on her sunglasses) was reissued for sale because the company that made it got so many inquiries about it. (I think it had been discontinued for several years.

      Hell, even I thought to myself— an acolyte of the Sherrod Brown school of fashion— that that coat was amazing when I saw the photo.

      Reply
    58. 58.

      El Muneco

      January 24, 2023 at 9:53 pm

      @HinTN: I’m not sure if the FBI “investigation” of Kavanaugh was a drunk looking for their keys underneath the lamppost or was carefully orchestrated to look only where they were guaranteed not to find anything. But I know which way to bet.

      Reply
    59. 59.

      Fake Irishman

      January 24, 2023 at 9:57 pm

      @Mike in NC:

      Actually, I don’t think she’d agree. I suspect she’d probably say the ACA and the IRA are her two biggest ones, with her defense of Social Security (her first big win as minority leader) as another highlight.

      I think the sweep of history is giving us an appreciation for how good she, Harry Reid, and Obama were at their jobs, and we’re already appreciative of how good she, Schumer and Biden were/are at theirs.

      Reply
    60. 60.

      Matt

      January 25, 2023 at 12:43 pm

      Her reputation, Eshoo said, “will stand the way the Washington Monument stands. They can’t chisel away at that.”…

      It’ll be commemorated with a plaque on the side of an cremation oven in the reeducation camps: “She lost the country to fascism, but at least the hippies didn’t win”

      Reply
    61. 61.

      Professor Bigfoot

      January 25, 2023 at 3:26 pm

      @Jeffrey: this is way late so you probably won’t see it… but the way she leaned into “…wherever I Goddamn like…” was soo awesome…

      Reply

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