In case you don’t have time to watch the real thing, I’ll share my take on the state of the union.
The Republicans are bat shit crazy, evil, and in total disarray.
The Democrats are united, working their assess off, and are delivering for the American people.
Oh, and in case you don’t have time to watch the “media reporting” after the speech, here’s my take on that, too.
Sure, President Biden spent the last 2 years delivering for the American people with his Big Fucking Agenda but what has he done for us lately? Also, he is old, and besides, will all the attacks from those nice Republicans bring him down?
All the stupid media reporting reminds me of watching Batman on TV. Will Batman be able to get out of this? Will Robin something-something?
Want to watch online? You have options!
Open thread.
cain
I think Santos had some kind of conniption with the head of Bain Capital – you know, the man with dog on top of car dude.
cain
WTF – this isn’t the Grammies Sinema. Jeezus.
cain
Kevin looks very pleased being in his place as Speaker. I hope he feels uncomfortable later.
cain
sure is a lot of macbooks out there.
WaterGirl
@cain: Which of the 3 feeds are you watching?
cain
man, who is that woman wiht a gigantic 17″ screen? Lawd!
cain
@WaterGirl: I’m watching C-SPAN. Not sure what version it is.
Sinema was wearing some obnoxious yellow suit with wings for sleeves. It looked like something you’d wear at an awards ceremony. Pretty eye catching.
cain
Kamala and Kevin seem to have a lot to talk about.
HumboldtBlue
Kamala looks a million bucks in that color.
cain
Looks like Kamala has found the CSPAN camera lol
bbleh
All the stupid media reporting reminds me of watch Batman on TV. Will Batman be able to get out of this? Will Robin something-something?
It is exactly this. It is almost pure entertainment. And this is why national political reporting — in particular — has sunk to such abysmal levels, even at organizations that know perfectly well how to do a better job. But they just can’t help themselves. It’s a show, and they can’t resist being on stage.
Mai Naem mobile
Kamala’s body language be saying she don’t like Squeaker or whatever manure he’s trying to shovel towards her.
Alison Rose
@cain: well, you know, she wilts like week-old flowers without water if she’s not the center of attention
Alison Rose
@HumboldtBlue: Yesssss. I love the burgundy shade, and it looks gorgeous on her.
WaterGirl
@cain: I had to go to c-span to find the yellow dress. oh. my. god. She couldn’t scream “look at me!” any louder if she had it printed on her ass.
bbleh
@Alison Rose: They’re all egotistical jerks who see a President every time they look in the mirror and will trample orphans to get in front of a camera, but she’s particularly garish about it.
Alison Rose
Fuckin a, this is quite an entourage
cain
@WaterGirl: Right???! JFC…
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I guess I’m watching this after all…
Garrett Hawke just said on MSNBC that George Santos got there early to get a seat on the aisle, which traditionally they do to get their picture took with POTUS, and Mitt Romney seems to have some “stern words” for Santos.
By George old top, one doesn’t want to get rough, but dash it all if you aren’t making us look silly. Silly!
cain
@Alison Rose: we have too many people in congress who are like this.
Qrop Non Sequitur
Well, the answer to this was always the same. Let’s hope it continues.
HumboldtBlue
@bbleh:
MSNBC has been all policy so far, they have Jen Psaki on set and as much as this is performative, Biden has some real accomplishments to speak to and some real issues to address.
cain
lol. Sinema looks like a butterfly.. I think she can probably flitter out of the chamber.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@HumboldtBlue: I am curious to hear how he addresses the debt ceiling, above all.
Alison Rose
OMG I just saw the yellow dress. That ain’t red carpet, that’s TJ Maxx trying to be red carpet. What an embarrassing fool she is.
dmsilev
There’s part of me that thinks we should get rid of the whole speech thing and just go back to Presidents sending written reports to Congress. Still, it is an opportunity to make A Big Speech without the networks wailing about their precious airtime minutes, so I guess.
cain
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I saw that – and Santos stared daggers at Romney’s back. I could tell he made some off the cuff remark that Romney ignored.
CaseyL
Considering all the cosplaying/harassment/catcalling the GOP is likely to get up to – and FSM alone knows whether Alito will have an on-camera breakdown of some kind – I’d just as soon not watch.
Even on C-Span, I’ll have to see McCarthy in the background. Yuck.
OK, I lied: WaterGirl linked the MSNBC feed (Thanks, WG!), and since they have decent commentary, I’ll watch that one.
WaterGirl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I heard that in Cary Grant’s voice.
dmsilev
@CaseyL:
If he has an apoplectic stroke during the speech, I’ll take back everything I’ve ever said and thought about the uselessness of the SOTU.
CaseyL
@dmsilev: Ooh. Good point!
cain
whoa speaking of fashionable – who is the young black woman in the gorgeous green dress taking pics while the SCOTUS judges walk down the aisle?!
sab
Emilia Sykes has invited Jayland Walker’s mother as her guest.
WaterGirl
@cain: Well, when you’re there for the status and the attention, you dress and act like you’re at an award show. If you’re in politics to serve, it shows.
cain
Jill lookin good in her purple dress.
WaterGirl
@CaseyL: Choices! We all like to have choices. :-)
Frankensteinbeck
@CaseyL:
At first I was like “Why would Alito pitch a fit? He’s winning!” But then I remembered in truest conservative fashion, he seethes with fury every time he’s not told “Thank you, Sir. May I have another?” Assholes demand to be praised for being assholes.
Alison Rose
@WaterGirl: Which made me hear Jack Lemmon. “And where did you get that phony accent? Nobody talks like that!”
piratedan
at the point where I am so disgusted with our media betters. Hell, Paul Gosar could stand up in the middle of the speech and open fire and Faux News would condone it saying he was provoked…..
CaseyL
Jeez. It’s like the start of a sports event, with people applauding the entrance of their teams onto the field.
Jackie
Why is Kevin crowding Kamala? Her body language says she doesn’t like him in her space, but she’s not giving ground.
cain
Pete lookin good – and looking younger than most of the cabinet. :-)
different-church-lady
CONSERVATIVES, 2023: “Biden can’t talk right.”
SAME CONSERVATIVES 2008: “Obama talks too well.”
CaseyL
@Jackie: He wants to stand where the President stands. Creeper.
bbleh
@cain: well, yes!
Mike in NC
President Biden: announce that weed is now legal in all 50 states. Thank you.
Suzanne
@dmsilev:
If he has an apoplectic stroke during the speech, I’ll
take back everything I’ve ever said and thought about the uselessness of the SOTUjump on Mr. Suzanne and tear his clothes off and it will be hot.FIFY.
cain
@Jackie: He wants to be literally the center of the space.
Sister Golden Bear
@WaterGirl: Sinema: “Yes it was the State of the Union address, however I couldn’t help but wonder, what about me! me! me!”
Alison Rose
@Jackie: It’s especially noticeable given their height difference.
sab
Kristen Sinema needs to move up a couple of dress sizes. She is not a size six anymore.
cain
Pelosi looking a bit wistful it seems … so sweet though.
WaterGirl
Nancy Pelosi looks awesome and beautiful!
Jill looks great, too.
CaseyL
@Suzanne: Mr. Suzanne is now rooting for apoplexy.
bbleh
@HumboldtBlue: MSNBC is often an exception to the rule, I think in large part because they’ve got their niche, they’re very much at home in it, and so they don’t have to perform. They can call it like they see it. Which, in the end, is what one wants out of a media organization.
Alison Rose
@Sister Golden Bear: an oldie but still a goodie:
Splitting Image
In defense of the Batman TV show, the silliness was intentional. The writers of the show believed that the kids who watched those old Republic serials like The Masked Marvel and Zorro’s Fighting Legion back in the 1940s (and listened to them on the radio) were the right age to laugh at them in the 1960s.
Vis-a-vis the current news media, however, your point stands.
Suzanne
Okay Joey B. Love you and supporting you next time. But plz ditch the combover.
cain
Joe looking freshly botox’d ;) I suppose he has to otherwise more articles about him being too old. Good grief.
cain
Kevin definitely looking at Joe like he wants his job.
Suzanne
@CaseyL: Part of why he is Mr. Suzanne is because he is always, always rooting for Alito to stroke out.
WaterGirl
@Splitting Image: The campiness was great. It was fine for Batman! Not so fine when that’s all professional media have in their toolbox.
Suzanne
@cain: I thought that, too.
Sister Golden Bear
@cain: The contrast between Kevin looking miserable and Joe glad-handing and loving it, is delicious.
mrmoshpotato
When you’re an attention whore…
MazeDancer
@dmsilev: Alito isn’t there. Which is a fine thing.
M31
@MazeDancer:
fuck Alito
Elizabelle
Second gentleman Doug Emhoff all smiles next to Dr. Jill Biden.
Alison Rose
Look at Doug all proud to see his wife up there :) Adorable
Raven
@mrmoshpotato: ho
Old School
Tonight’s designated survivor: Marty Walsh (Labor)
Suzanne
@cain: Now I’m thinking it’s fillers, not Botox.
Elizabelle
Thank dog Qevin had to take his seat.
Alison Rose
I wish he’d said “the eventual speaker of the house”
different-church-lady
My, aren’t we catty tonight.
Elizabelle
Biden is not doddering. I was told there would be doddering. WTF, FTF NY Times.
cain
@Suzanne: we’ll likely read about it at the FTFNYT :)
Joe laying it thiiiick! :D
Suzanne
Much love for Nancy. Well-deserved.
Elizabelle
Mitch McConnell not got a happy turtle face on. He is enduring this.
Sister Golden Bear
@MazeDancer: Mr. Suzanne is quite disappointed.
Elizabelle
Standing O for Nancy Smash.
M31
Tonight’s designated second survivor: Major the dog, fresh off his duties of biting treasonous Secret Service officers
Alison Rose
Nancyyyyyyyy!!!
cain
Couldn’t bother to get up, eh Mitch? Too low energy!
Woot woot ,Nancy!
MomSense
I fucking love Joe Biden.
WaterGirl
Who just told Kevin it’s okay to smile???
I wonder if Kevin will be drawn to Biden’s power like a moth to a flame?
clapping for Kakeem!
What an asshole, Mitch won’t even stand when Biden addresses him.
CaseyL
@Old School: The one who’s leaving to run the NHL?
Elizabelle
Qevin not smiling about all those new jobs. He looks … disappointed.
Martin
@MazeDancer: Prime opportunity to leak some court opinions while everyone is distracted.
Soprano2
It’s nice how gracious Biden is, the contrast with TFG couldn’t be more stark.
M31
“2 years ago, that fucking former guy got his sorry ass booted out of office, let us give thanks”
WaterGirl
@Alison Rose: It really is.
different-church-lady
@CaseyL: Not the NHL, the players association.
bbleh
@cain: hahahahahahaha. SOTU as comic relief.
piratedan
@Elizabelle: the NYT cannot stand that Democrats have not only got significant beneficial policy done, they refuse to un-array in the face of criticism and wishful thinking and repeated lies and slander.
cain
Why do we keep doing this bullshit about GOP and Dems working together? We are the folks who do this when we have the presidency.
Princess
@sab: All those expense account dinners with the lobbyists.
Soprano2
OMG what the hell is Sinema wearing? She must want to be in the circus.
M31
hate this bipartisan bullshit, but maybe Joe thinks it’s good to keep the normies from getting all scared that maybe politics was going on
bbleh
Whoa, Joe warming up here. No more grampa …
Elizabelle
Look how much Qevin is blinking.
Is it the lights? Is it Morse code? Does he have a beaver attached to his short hairs? Is he a hostage?
Raven
@cain: and all this horseshit about who does or doesn’t stand up and clap . Who gives a fuck?
dmsilev
@CaseyL: Yeah, that’s the guy. Strange career path, Boston Mayor->SecLabor->NHL Commissioner.
Elizabelle
@Soprano2: That or Big Bird.
Ksmiami
@different-church-lady: I don’t care about what Conservatives think or say or do. They’re just a bunch of traitor trash. Go Joe
cain
@bbleh: congratulations on #100 :-)
different-church-lady
@Elizabelle:
The beaver or McCarthy?
HumboldtBlue
@Suzanne:
It’s hair implants
bbleh
@Elizabelle: probably connectivity issues — lots of devices in there, and a lot of masonry around them.
Soprano2
I guess the Republicans made a pact not to clap for anything Biden says. They can’t clap for 12 million jobs!
Elizabelle
Sounds a tad like a Grateful Dead lyric.
Will we hear the word “egg” tonight? “Balloon?”
dmsilev
@M31: The MAGAs won’t be able to respond in kind. Or at least not with a straight face. So, yes, I think it’s worthwhile.
different-church-lady
@dmsilev:
PLAYERS ASSOCIATION. He’s a labor guy, he’s going to run their labor union.
MazeDancer
The GOP not applauding any of the historic job creation is ridiculous.
cain
@M31: it’s to make sure we don’t alienate the MAGA people.
The Moar You Know
@WaterGirl: I suspect Mitch is in way worse physical shape than we have been told, and has been pretty bad off for a few years.
Mai Naem mobile
Did Biden not shake McRapey’s hand? It sure looked like it. He shook Amy Coney Barrett hand.
Elizabelle
@The Moar You Know: That’s what I think too. Poor health. I wanna see his hands. To see the veins and color.
Ksmiami
@The Moar You Know: definitely …. He’s in bad shape and has taken some falls. Pity/s
M31
the Bipartisan Chips and Salsa Act!
first, taco trucks on every corner, and now this!
bbleh
@Mai Naem mobile: agree. looked like he politely brushed right by him.
And show some respect, man! That’s JUSTICE McRapey.
Fair Economist
It’s amusing that McCarthy can’t restrain himself from nodding approvingly at Biden’s job accomplishments.
Hehhehheh
dmsilev
@different-church-lady: Ah, that makes a lot more sense. I must have misread the story earlier today.
cain
lol – GOP not standing up for jobs
dmsilev
@M31: Just in time for the Superbowl!
Elizabelle
Pete B! Merrick Garland! Deb Harland!
Martin
I like how we always have two people from California sitting behind Joe keeping an eye on him.
japa21
Where are the balloons? I was told that the GOP was bringing balloons.
Elizabelle
“And folks, we’re just getting started. We’re just getting started.”
ETA: and pokes fun at GOP politicos who won’t fund projects in their own districts.
M31
@japa21: Dark Brandon already popped them
dmsilev
You just know that it’s the “trains” part of that list that Biden really loves the most.
Elizabelle
What is that in front of Qevin? Inkstands? A samovar?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Mai Naem mobile:
ETA: “I’ll see you at the ground breaking”. And he will
cain
Zzzz – GOP hasn’t done shit. They only got tax cuts.
Wombat Probability Cloud
I’d enjoy seeing you stand in for Jean-Pierre when she takes a vacation.
HumboldtBlue
He does Regular-Guy-Joe so damn well.
@Elizabelle:
Inkstand
Old Dan and Little Ann
I’ll see you at the ground breaking
NICE!
bbleh
@japa21: I was seriously waiting for that — MTG, Boebert, Gaetz. But reporting suggests McQarthy told ’em to chill out.
Bill Arnold
@The Moar You Know:
Childhood polio survivor. Rehab for a couple of years. The lingering weakness often gets worse in old age.
cain
uh oh NYT will be going to a lot of McDonalds to “fact check”
Ohio Mom
@Mai Naem mobile: And he gave Justice Brown Jackson the sweetest little kiss. Biden is polite to Republicans but he doesn’t hide his affection for his people.
cain
GOP not standing up for anything – love it.
Soprano2
I guess some R’s clapped for made in America.
cain
This is a really good speech – very plain spoken.
bbleh
@Elizabelle: it’s apparently a Majorly Historical Thing (I wonder if there are dead bugs in it.)
@cain: concur
NotMax
All lumber used in federal projects must be American.
Canada: “Say what now?”
dmsilev
I’m pretty sure the Joe Biden Drinking Game includes references to his dad. So, drink up everyone!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Soprano2: Yup.
“blue-collar blueprint to rebuild America”
Sister Golden Bear
@Soprano2: Who wore it better, Sinema or Tweety Bird?
cain
@NotMax: “stay away from the northwest!”
japa21
@cain:
plain speaking is Biden’s real middle name.
Alison Rose
Come to California, where we’re gonna be making our own insulin and telling drug companies to suck it.
Elizabelle
@bbleh: Long as the bugs aren’t Russian.
Good speech. Biden spoke about areas of the country where the young have to leave home for jobs.
Isn’t that a complaint of rural GOP?
He knows. He cares.
SpaceUnit
I’m late to the thread but I think Joe is killing it.
Sister Golden Bear
@M31: Those laser beam eyes are useful for Dark Brandon.
dmsilev
Republicans universally in favor of high insulin prices.
Another Scott
@cain: A few minutes ago I tried to start watching the C-Span feed, speeding through the pre-game stuff. I had to bail after a few minutes of Joe’s actual comments. Joe’s great, but spending minutes congratulating all of the leaders on their new positions and/or longevity – while great for greasing the gears of the legislature – isn’t something I want to listen to right now.
I’ll try to read it later.
Now, on to the rest of the comments.
Cheers,
Scott.
HumboldtBlue
@dmsilev:
That could come from a Clancy novel.
bbleh
“it cuts the federal deficit.” Oh snap!
Alison Rose
Joey B getting those digs in!!
dmsilev
Biden to GOP: Bring it on, assholes.
(I may be paraphrasing slightly)
M31
lol Joe baits the Repubs into clapping when he said ‘some of them want to repeal the Inflation Reduction Act’
MomSense
Wow those Republicans look like assholes.
Omnes Omnibus
Good luck in your senior year.
cain
Kev looks like he’s just got himself a bowl of cannabis and smoked it. He is leaning back, he’s just shy of staring up and putting his hands behind his back.
Mike in NC
Sinema is dressed like some comic book character.
M31
@dmsilev: lol “Please proceed, governor”
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Lotsa luck in your senior year
Scranton Joe is having some fun tonight
Quinerly
The best Biden has ever been.
And, I have been a huge Biden fan for years.
Elizabelle
@Omnes Omnibus: I did not understand that joke.
Elizabelle
@Quinerly: Hi Quinerly. And JoJo.
jnfr
Seems to be going pretty well, near as I can tell. R’s are less obnoxious than expected.
dmsilev
@MomSense: Just “look like”?
Alison Rose
Oh good Lord, cheering for oil and gas. These fucking simps.
cain
That’s it, Kev – close your eyes.. that’s it..
Elizabelle
Boebert sitting next to Gaetz. And so quiet. I wonder if she’s been superglued to her seat. Hands first.
bbleh
“The tax system is not fair.”
Damn! Now who’s the populist?
cain
shades of Trump, “it’s not fair!”
Alison Rose
Who just tried screeching at him?
Elizabelle
@cain: Maybe he has at least had an edible.
M31
15%, God love them, lol
Quinerly
@Elizabelle:
JoJo hiding under his blanket. That big yellow bird scared him.
cain
@bbleh: Tom Nichols thought it was a bit too populist – but he thinks that he’s making a play for the white working class. IF anybody can reach out to those – it’s him.
Mai Naem mobile
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: guess he’s got to be careful and not catch McRapey’s cooties.
dmsilev
Republicans in favor of low taxes for billionaires.
(shocking, I know)
cain
McConnell looks like he’d like a cannabis gummy or two.
wenchacha
“Gosh, POTUS is struggling in his polling numbers!”
I’d say he’s going over okay!
Maybe Kevin took an edible.
Sister Golden Bear
@Elizabelle: Apparently it’s a call back to something he said in 2017: “Remember the expression when you pass around your yearbook to be signed, and someone would say, ‘Lots of luck in your senior year?’ Lots of luck in your senior year, Mr. Trump.”
cain
QUADRUPLE THAT SHIT RIGHT NOW :D
tobie
So glad Biden mentioned the 15% global corporate minimum tax rate. It was a huge achievement and doesn’t get touted enough. Sorry the camera didn’t show Janet Yellen just then.
Elizabelle
Yeah! Hit them with a quadruple tax on stock buybacks.
C-Span had a long shot on McConnell, while Biden was discussing oil companies. But for blinking, absolutely immobile. No reaction.
Tussaud quality.
cain
haha ,Joe Manchin looked like swallowed a lizard and shocked that he liked it.
Alison Rose
The children are getting cranky.
Elizabelle
Hostage.
Sister Golden Bear
@Elizabelle: Since Boebert has bragged about carrying within the Capitol, I suspect she knows there’s a squad of Secret Service agents ready to dogpile her if she as much as raises her hands.
zhena gogolia
@SpaceUnit: I wish I could actually watch these, but I can’t.
NotMax
Camera switches to someone as Biden says “wealthy tax cheats.”
Awk-ward.
;)
Alison Rose
Holy fuck, this is so atrocious. These fucking assholes.
HumboldtBlue
cain
Boebert shaking her head – fuck her. ohhhhh… angry GOP! He’s loving that they are pissed off.
M31
Joe is having fun now
Quinerly
MTG….white fur. WTF?
Omnes Omnibus
@Quinerly: Sinema’s muse.
Elizabelle
Glenn Kessler furiously making notes so he can “fact check.”
M. Taylor Greene sees Sinema’s tweety bird, raises her a polar bear.
cain
THIS is what I wanted to hear – fucking telling these people off.
WaterGirl
Uncle Joe apparently has no more fucks to give tonight!
dmsilev
I think we all know that Biden and his staff have that evidence all assembled and ready to go.
bbleh
Holy hell. This is … masterful.
@WaterGirl: that also, too.
Omnes Omnibus
Jesus, he’s just trolling the GOP now and I am here for it.
MomSense
Rope a fucking dope. Biden is a champion!
SpaceUnit
Well played, President Biden.
cain
He’s really being a rabble rouser. This is awesome.
Suzanne
Joey B is in rare form tonight. He’s sharp and you can tell he’s enjoying busting some chops. This is good.
Wag
Biden is pushing the GQP into a corner on SS and MC. Good for him!
Quinerly
@Omnes Omnibus:
Might be best SOTU in my lifetime.
dmsilev
@MomSense: God knows the GOP has a surplus of dopes.
cain
Kevin went through that whole thing like he’s still smoked a bowl or two.
Shalimar
I decided to watch basketball on TNT instead. If I get even more bored without falling asleep, I might figure out why the announcers are speaking Spanish.
Elizabelle
@Wag: And then teasing them about it. “Apparently, it’s not going to be a problem.”
And he got MTG to be yelling at him.
Go, Joe.
Elizabelle
Capitalism without competition is not capitalism. It’s extortion.
Soprano2
This is a lot better than those laundry list speeches.
bbleh
@cain: from what I can see, Qevin goes through life like he’s smoked a bowl or two
cain
I love that he’s really bragging about the amount of money he’s saving all of us – complete the job – keep hitting that litany. Awesome.
Elizabelle
Enjoying this SOTU. Never watched a one of the interloper’s.
cain
I love the way he said ‘return your MONey’ – you know there is a “fucking” there. He’s been saying unsaid f-bombs throughout this whole speech.
Another Scott
WH.gov – SotU address as prepared for delivery.
Cheers,
Scott.
Elizabelle
“[Resort fees from ] Hotels. That aren’t even resorts.”
Cable TV.
This is for Joe and Jane SixPack.
“Americans are tired of being played for suckers.”
dmsilev
Banning resort fees and cable television service fees. OK, now that’s something we should all be able unite behind.
Jo Jo las Orejas
@Elizabelle:
Me como ese maldito oso polar
WaterGirl
Even Obama’s State of the Union addresses were boring.
This one is most certainly not boring.
TaMara
Never, ever underestimate Uncle Joe. He’s got punches and he ain’t afraid to throw them.
bbleh
@Omnes Omnibus: @cain: @Quinerly: yeah, it’s extra beer time.
And damn hell yes support for eldercare! And that is my personal two cents.
Mai Naem mobile
Did Marge take Sinema’s hand me down ski fur thing from Davos and remake it for tonight’s SOTU outfit?
Elizabelle
Noncompete agreements.
Yes. Take those on.
GOP jeering.
“That was part of the deal, guys. Look it up.”
Ksmiami
@Quinerly: Totally. He’s one of us.
Soprano2
What are the “1870” buttons?
khead
Biden is a walking, talking Ja Morant meme dunking on everyone. (Look it up if you need to! Heh!)
dmsilev
Banning non-competes. Yes. California did that years and years ago, and it’s a big part of the reason why Silicon Valley ended up where it did.
Elizabelle
@Mai Naem mobile: That, or mugged an Inuit.
cain
This SOTU is awesome. I’m feeling pumped.
SpaceUnit
Everyone who’s been claiming that Biden is too old and no longer sharp can suck it.
RaflW
@cain: Is Botox what it is? Maybe in photos Joe looks better, but that frozen-seeming face means he’s less animated looking, which I personally find adds years to his demeanor.
dmsilev
@TaMara:
Those pundits saying he should step aside next year should, if there were any justice in the world, be feeling really stupid.
Omnes Omnibus
Child tax credit! That was so huge in 2021.
cain
Kev’s californian – so he’s clearly enjoying recreational cannabis.
Old Dan and Little Ann
Joe started off a bit shaky but he’s been on fire for about 30 straight minutes. Fuck everyone of those gop assholes.
japa21
@SpaceUnit:
Beat me to it.
cain
raise for public school teachers!
Sister Golden Bear
Yes, it’s on the bird hellsite, but Jorts the Cat has a great running commentary on the speech.
Alison Rose
@Soprano2:
Linky
Elizabelle
@Jo Jo las Orejas: Make sure your vaccs and rabies shots are current first, amigo.
But go for it, dude.
cain
@RaflW: Yep, it makes the skin stiff – normally your skin creases and you can actually make expressions. You can’t do that with botox.
NotMax
Just me or has Harris gone a tad overboard with the Botox?
Elizabelle
@Sister Golden Bear: That will be fun to check out later.
Also David Rothkopf. And James Fallows. Who else?
JWR
Good lord! Just caught a glimpse of Madam Butterfly. Can’t tell if she’s sitting with her Republican friends, but she’s definitely NOT applauding Biden’s accomplishments.
cain
@NotMax: Does Harris even need botox?
Quinerly
I don’t remember the attendees being this boisterous in the past.
Soprano2
@Alison Rose: Thanks!!
cain
Kev nodding on public safety. lol.
Alison Rose
@NotMax: She’s only 58 and she’s got good genes and makeup. It’s not necessarily Botox
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: Just you.
dmsilev
Via the Post, the grand tradition of SOTU rebuttals sucking will continue: “Sarah Huckabee Sanders to go at ‘woke’ left in State of Union rebuttal”. She’s got some work to do to beat out Bobby “volcano monitoring” Jindal and Marco “thirsty” Rubio though.
Elizabelle
Tyre Nichols’ parents.
They would give anything to not be nationally/internationally known.
Biden discussing “The Talk.”
Soprano2
@Elizabelle: Yes, that’s true. Their lives are forever changed.
Jo Jo las Orejas
@Elizabelle:
estoy protegido Mamá incluso me dio esa inyección de veneno de serpiente de cascabel.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
that hypocritical little fuck Kevin McCarthy nodding along as Biden talks about Tyre Nichols s’ mother
cain
whoa, Kev’s clapping too eh…
zeecube
@Soprano2: I heard it refers to the year the first time a police officer killed a young black male after passage of the 15th Amendment
ETA: I see AR answered better.
bbleh
Republicans applauding for social spending. Psych counseling, substance abuse support.
Does Joe have some kinda magic pixie dust? Did the CIA spike the punch in the Republican cloakroom?
Omnes Omnibus
“Play fucking loud!”
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
I dunno. The immobility of the forehead says otherwise.
Whatever; her decision.
HumboldtBlue
@Soprano2:
In memory of the first black man killed by police in this country I believe.
different-church-lady
AREN’T. WE. CATTY. TONIGHT.
Elizabelle
@Jo Jo las Orejas:
It’s poetry. But yes. Stay safe, Jo Jo. Do not be hassling those rattlesnakes, even if you are protected.
Elizabelle
Brandon Tsay. I think he intercepted the Lunar New Year shooter.
M31
time for Joe to start the chant “let’s go Brandon”
Omnes Omnibus
“Let’s finish the job…”
Elizabelle
Is Bono at the SOTU? Looked like him, sitting next to Mr. Tsay. Bono-esque.
Quinerly
Bono looks hot!
cain
@Elizabelle: yep, it’s him.
bbleh
Cruz OWNED.
Oh and culture war? Bring it, sez Joe.
I am … agog.
cain
oh my – someone has shouted out of term. Kev had to shush them.
SFBayAreaGal
@different-church-lady: Every one is feeling their oats
Alison Rose
@NotMax: Yet you felt the need to not just posit it, but keep digging. Here’s a thought: Don’t critique women’s appearance.
different-church-lady
I thought “Businesses get to do whatever they want” was enshrined in the Constitution?
SFBayAreaGal
@different-church-lady: Every one is feeling their oats
Mai Naem mobile
@different-church-lady: cat-ty enough to eat the yellow bird that is Krysten Sinema?
David 🎈🕵️The Establishment 📸🛩 Koch
@Quinerly:
yeah, eating sriracha will do it every time.
NotMax
Was that MTG standing and applauding transgender rights?
dmsilev
Going from LGBTQ rights to the Ukraine war in the space of a sentence or two is a bit of an abrupt transition…
Elizabelle
I think SOS Antony Blinken is very handsome.
different-church-lady
@Mai Naem mobile:
You’d have to be a sabre-toothed tiger to eat that thing.
Omnes Omnibus
He is on fire.
Sister Golden Bear
Did I tear up at Biden calling out needing to protect LGBTQ+ rights? Yes, yes I did.
dmsilev
@NotMax: In fairness, she is deeply stupid.
RaflW
@cain: “Why do we keep doing this bullshit about GOP and Dems working together?”
It’s the price of wooing independents. Annoying, but the Kabuki must be performed.
Alison Rose
Does he not know her name?
Suzanne
So glad to hear him explicitly support trans kids.
Elizabelle
@Alison Rose: Did not want to take a chance on mispronouncing, I would guess.
Elizabelle
@Sister Golden Bear: I know. Was rooting for you when I heard Biden bring that up.
Elizabelle
Qevin. Assessing look at Biden. “Hmmm. This guy is doing better than I was led to expect.”
Alison Rose
@Sister Golden Bear: I appreciate Biden being clear that he is on the side of the trans community, drawing a bright line between the parties.
Darkrose
@NotMax: Just you. She’s 58 and has amazing genes. But thanks for your concern.
Alison Rose
@Elizabelle: Yeah, probably. Though her name is pretty phonetic. But ah well.
NotMax
@Alison Rose
Not a critique, an observation. No more and no less invalid than offhandedly commenting on other fashion choices.
Sheesh.
Suzanne
Apparently someone in the audience is a big fan of fentanyl.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Kevin needs to wait and get permission from Marge Greene to stand up for “Never bet against the United States of America”
Elizabelle
What are they yelling about? Biden looked amused. Qevin made a “shhhh” sound.
Do we have a pro-fentanyl deaths lobby?
Alison Rose
Wait, are the Repubs supporting fentanyl????
Mallard Filmore
@dmsilev:
“Hey! This burger joint doesn’t sell McDonalds food, so it doesn’t compete with where I used to work.”
cain
@NotMax: to be fair that probably applies to me since I did exclaim over Sinema’s fashion choice.
bbleh
@Elizabelle: Lol thought the same. “This job is good. Maybe I’ll stick with this one. Yeah.”
Alison Rose
@NotMax: Oh come on. No one says someone looks Botox’d as a compliment. Saying she looks nice in the color she’s wearing is very different from musing about whether she’s had toxins injected into her face to erase wrinkles. That would be like saying that someone who had gone down a few sizes must have had lipo.
cain
Love it when he says “President Obama”
NotMax
@Elizabelle
They think Fentanyl is one of those exotic Caribbean islands.
Omnes Omnibus
@Elizabelle: They believe that the Mexican border is rife with tanker trucks of fentanyl crossing at all hours and that Biden is just letting it happen. They are, of course, fucking nuts.
cain
@Alison Rose: hopefully men are exempt – cuz I totally called that for Joe :)
patrick II
Kevin isn’t too enthusiastic about fighting tyranny.
Elizabelle
@Omnes Omnibus: Le sigh.
Quinerly
Clinton holds the record for longest SOTU. 2000
1hr 28 mins 49 secs
cain
@patrick II: he’s smoked at least two bowls – he’s probably only has time for doritos.
Elizabelle
OMG. That is Paul Pelosi in the hat. Sitting between Madame Ambassador from Ukraine and Bono.
Looking a little like the late, great Leonard Cohen. Was wondering who that was.
bbleh
@Quinerly: This does not feel like an hour and 20 so far.
jimmiraybob
I’ve played biker bars with more decorum that that chamber. Who’s the loud drunk woman that keeps yelling? It’s not even last call. Is that Marge?
Other than that, go Joe!
Alison Rose
@cain: Context matters. There is a difference between making comments like that about men versus women. The former isn’t great but the latter has a far more insidious history and connotation.
Spanky
Qevin snapping his head to his left and bugging out his eyes is freaking me out.
dmsilev
@Quinerly: I think he’s just about done.
Martin
@Alison Rose: We aren’t technically seizing the means of production, but it’s close.
Quinerly
@Elizabelle:
My initial thought too. Even his movements.
NotMax
McCarthy keeps glancing to the side like a dog looking for a cue from his trainer.
Spanky
ok, I guess we’re strong.
Another Scott
I read the text. It’s a very good speech, very good.
Looking forward to the highlight reel.
Go Joe!!
Cheers,
Scott.
cain
@Alison Rose: Fair enough – I do not make comments about women’s appearances precisely because of that history. I know how society treats women and how those observations are triggering for women.
I have known to slip from time to time – and grateful for the grace that women have given me to make amends.
Quinerly
@dmsilev: wasn’t complaining. I just made the most perfect Sazarec.
Elizabelle
Fabulous SOTU.
Was there one last year? I missed it. Was in Europe.
Alison Rose
Warnock!
M31
nice job, Mr. President
Elizabelle
To Jon Tester: Hey big John!
What will he call Fetterman?
SiubhanDuinne
Terrific speech. One of the best in my memory.
Spanky
Bernie’s the only one in there with a mask on, and I don’t blame him.
Elizabelle
@SiubhanDuinne: Yes.
Not feeble at all. Suck on that, punditz.
CaseyL
I’m glad I decided to watch it. That was one hell of a SOTU. I like it a lot when Joe throws elbows.
Martin
@dmsilev: We did it in 1872. Nice to see the rest of the country catching up.
I like to say CA is 20 years ahead of the country, but we’re 150 and counting on this one.
Alison Rose
@Elizabelle: Fetterman is taller I think, so he could be Bigger John :P
Elizabelle
Future Senator Adam Schiff sighting.
TaMara
@different-church-lady: Come sit next to me.
Quinerly
@Spanky: Rachel M. commented on that when they all were coming in.
Martin
@jimmiraybob: Reporting is that it’s marge.
Elizabelle
@CaseyL: Elbows. Anchors. Pianos.
Mike in NC
The female admiral is the Commandant of the Coast Guard.
japa21
Darn that was good. Almost makes me want a cigarette but I quit 4 years ago.
Spanky
Did Sammy just brush him off? Fucker.
Alison Rose
@Elizabelle: Gonna be super weird if we do end up with two male senators here. Been a long ass time since that happened!
Sister Golden Bear
@cain: There’s also a big difference between commenting on someone’s fashion choices vs. critiquing their body — especially when it’s a woman.
Elizabelle
Former Justices Breyer and Kennedy (??) are there. In judicial robes.
I don’t see Clarence. Or the missus.
zhena gogolia
@jimmiraybob: Yeah we watched about 30 seconds. They’re acting like they’re at the rodeo.
Timill
@Elizabelle: Following precedent: Little John.
WaterGirl
Who yelled this? “Mr. President, that was awesome! Awesome!”
SpaceUnit
Joe Biden strikes me as an august statesmen who is quite fit to lead.
He was turning the page of his notebook on occasion but I never caught him really looking at it. He was winging all that shit from memory. I couldn’t have done that.
Elizabelle
I really think Biden said to Justices Kagan and Roberts “I’m sorry you had to sit through that — and it sounded like — bullshit.” And they laughed. So I have the word wrong, but what?
C-Span did not photo the audience and what was going on very much.
Alison Rose
@japa21: LOL. I was just talking to a friend today who quit about a decade or so ago. I smoked in high school but stopped a few months after I turned 18 when I realized I was smoking more than I had now that I could buy my own. I wasn’t addicted and didn’t want to become so. That was in 1998 and I told her, every once in a while when I see someone smoking in a video or movie or something, I’m like……..yeah, it still looks cool. I don’t know why.
HumboldtBlue
MSNBC are expressing their collective sheer amazement at how Joe just owned the GOP and clowned them with their own words and positions.
Quinerly
I have never known a retired Supreme Court Justice to attend. Didn’t I see Souter and Breyer?
Timill
Ah well, back to Hope Never Dies
WaterGirl
@Spanky: who is sammy?
Alison Rose
@WaterGirl: Rep Jamaal Bowen, sayeth twitter
Spanky
@WaterGirl: Alito! Fucker.
Elizabelle
@Quinerly: It was mentioned that former justices were present.
Maybe that’s how we’ll get to 13!
Souter. I think you’re right. It was a familiar face …
bbleh
@HumboldtBlue: it was truly masterful. I sit amazed.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
We were just talking about that here in Casa Ceci. Who are the pro-fentanyl representatives? Why the hell was that a boo line?
We were also talking about the Holocaust survivor, the elderly lady a couple seats to the right (our right) of Jill Biden. She’s 92 and was a child in the camps.
Elizabelle
@Timill: LOL.
Quinerly
@Elizabelle: Pretty sure Alito hasn’t attended since the “you lie” comment during Obama’s speech.
WaterGirl
@Spanky: That was my first thought, but someone upthread had said he wasn’t here tonight, so I figured it wasn’t him. thanks.
cain
Joe’s looking tired – I’m sure he’s ready to go to bed. Hopefully a shot of whiskey before.
SpaceUnit
@cain:
I think you’re looking tired.
sab
@cain: Does Joe even drink? I thought not. Maybe why he has held up so well.
Another Scott
(1:08 video clip)
Pretty good!
Of course, he’s smart enough to know that they’ll lie about saying they weren’t going to cut it. He’s always thinking a few steps ahead – he knows how this stuff works.
Cheers,
Scott.
zhena gogolia
@SpaceUnit: lol
Alison Rose
JFC Marge looks like the most embarrassing, pathetic, washed up hag I’ve ever seen. Take that stupid fur off and go to finishing school, you rabid ferret.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Lifelong teetotaler. he’ll probably have some ice cream
wish I had some ice cream
cain
@SpaceUnit: no way – it’s only 7:30pm! but you know.. now that you mention it, I am feeling kind of sleepy. Must be all this whiskey.
cain
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: ice cream sounds wonderful too – or some chamomile tea – or if dangerous chai.
Quinerly
@sab: does not drink.
Never did.
gwangung
@cain: Hey, after a performance, even the best performers can feel exhausted….particularly a bravura one like that.
Citizen Alan
@Quinerly: It’s rare for Justices to not leave the SCOTUS Building feet first.
Alison Rose
Kinda loving watching Joe schmooze with everyone. He’s good at it.
cain
Is it just me or does CSPAN’s cameras give so much more close ups than in previous SOTUs?
TaMara
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Damn, I need ice cream after that magnificent SOTU
Quinerly
@Citizen Alan: very rare. We have 4 retired, still living ones, though.
Elizabelle
Tweet from Adam Kinzinger:
FWIW: Biden sounds so normal and energized as he works the floor. C-Span has been following him; you can hear most of the conversations.
No stutter or hesitation whatsoever. I think speeches are more nerve-wracking for him.
Someone is talking to him about California water and irrigation.
frosty fred
Pleased to see I’m not the only one who was impressed.
cain
@gwangung:
Absolutely – it wasn’t a comment on his age. I’d be tired too after releasing all the tension after that speech. The one that msnbc.com said had soooo much riding on it.
Citizen Alan
@Quinerly: We do, don’t we. Shocking to me that Anthony Kennedy hasn’t died of shame already.
Quinerly
@Alison Rose: me too. Just hope we don’t have a hard core Covid outbreak that takes out everyone but Bernie in his mask.
Elizabelle
Sarah Huckabee Sanders up next.
Watch for entertainment value, or hard pass?
I stand with the Red Hen, or whatever restaurant dissed that liar.
Sister Golden Bear
WaterGirl
@frosty fred: No, you are not! :-)
UncleEbeneezer
So, from what I’m reading it sounds like Biden basically told Michelle Goldberg to go F herself, lol!
Funny, we have a huge thread about his age and mental decline and yet all I see on Twitter is how he delivered an extraordinary SOTU with lots of witty ad libs…
RaflW
PA delivers frosting on the SOTU cake. Apparently in three special elections, the Dems have tonight won control of the PA House!
Elizabelle
@Sister Golden Bear: That’s cold! Laughing.
dmsilev
Heh. WaPo liveblog:
Stay as long as you want, Mr. President.
Quinerly
@Sister Golden Bear: internets won.
sab
@Alison Rose: I was going to object to you criticizing MTG ‘s appearance (I thought we weren’t supposed to criticize women’ s appearance) until you got to rabid ferret, then I was fine with it.
My granddaughter a while back did an affectionate cartoon of the family. My neck was very wrinkled in the cartoon and I thought I had aged better. Husband laughed: You look great unless your are eighteen. Allow them their youth. Later they will have to deal with all the wisdom that comes with age.
WaterGirl
@UncleEbeneezer: I think we just saw a street fight that the other side did not see coming.
They thought he was going to ask for directions, but he backed them into a corner and slipped the shiv in before they knew what was happening.
And I am here for it.
Alison Rose
@Sister Golden Bear: Literal LOL :D
dmsilev
@Elizabelle: When Sinema showed up at Davos wearing something similar, someone commented that one effect of inflation was that she could no longer afford Dalmatian and had to go downmarket to Poodle.
CaseyL
@RaflW: Fantastic news! Really, incredibly good news!
WaterGirl
If Marge has a mom, I bet she’s so proud.
tobie
@Elizabelle: im passing on Huckabee.
Elizabelle
Sarah Huckabee Sanders starts out by calling both her children and Biden liars. Great.
Democrats want to rule us … vs. GOP who want to serve us.
Right, Sarah.
Her children are Scarlett, Huck and George. Sounds like a brace of beagles.
Alison Rose
@sab: “Hag” didn’t refer to her appearance but rather her whole general demeanor. I use it interchangeably with bitch, and I’m a girl so I can do that.
Mai Naem mobile
@Quinerly: i don’t like the way people are talking right to his face close up. I hope everybody was tested. I thought Jill looked tired. I like the look of the guy who is kind of in front of Joe, with the clear rimmed thick glasses.I am assuming he’s secret service. He looks like a guy you do not want to screw around with.
Elizabelle
@tobie: Wise advice. There will be You Hoo Tube.
bbleh
@WaterGirl: concur. He took it to them! And he won far more than he lost.
Alison Rose
@WaterGirl: I’d bet dollars to donuts Marge’s mom smoked while pregnant.
tobie
@Elizabelle: it’s late, I don’t want to have nightmares!
Elizabelle
Those are all quotes. Projection.
Well. We knew she was a liar. And now she’s yapping about fentanyl.
All lies. Turning it off.
Mai Naem mobile
@Elizabelle: do not compare a Huckabee to a dog in any form. This is the family with the son who either killed or tortured a dog.
Quinerly
@Elizabelle: very strange speech.
HumboldtBlue
Huckabee has all the charm of a wet paper bag.
jackmac
I often like to hear the responses to major addresses. But a couple of minutes in and I had to turn Sarah Huckabee Sanders off. Hyper partisan and nasty. There’s no reaching any middle ground with this one.
jimmiraybob
Sarah Huckabee Trump is having an episode. Sounds like a campaign speech right out of Idiocracy.
Thoughts and prayers.
WaterGirl
I’m bailing. I don’t want to spoil the aftereffects of the wonderful speech by hearing about what the horrible Huckabee said.
TaMara
New thread for you —>>> —->>>
Alison Rose
@Elizabelle: This whole WHAT IS A WOMAN thing is so fucking dumb. I mean, I’m a cis woman and I don’t even give a shit how we define woman. A woman is a human who says she’s a woman. Why can’t we just leave it at that?
Elizabelle
@Mai Naem mobile: I know. I never ever forget that. First thing I ever think when I hear “Huckabee.”
Silence is golden. She was industrial strength hate and lies. Arkansas can keep her.
Alison Rose
@TaMara: I’ll go but I’m keeping this one open too, let’s see if we can get Joey a T-Bogg Unit as a SOTU present.
Quinerly
@Alison Rose: there was a very extensive article about MTG a few weeks back. Think it was in the New Yorker. Very detailed about her life and upbringing. Worth the read.
Alison Rose
@Quinerly: I have negative one million interest in reading about that waste of skin. She’s a miserable asshole who wants to spend her time on Earth making everyone else’s life more difficult. She can fuck off into the sun.
Geoduck
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Evidently the fentanyl booers were trying to say it’s only a problem because Biden won’t seal the border with Mexico and install machine gun nests.
sab
@Alison Rose: I agree. Same as me with her dress size. Not fat shaming (she still is shapely.) Just buy what fits instead of squeezing yourself into stuff that does not fit.
Elizabelle
@dmsilev: I remember that. Poodle indeed.
Still haven’t seen a photo of Sinema from tonight. But I’m sure it will be all over the place later.
Alison Rose
@Geoduck: Oh for the love of God.
Ohio Mom
@UncleEbeneezer: And after that fabulous speech, Biden worked the crowd — you could tell he was having real and intimate, if extremely brief, conversations with one person after the other. That is not someone who is old and tired, that is someone quick on his feet.
I loved that bit of jujitsu on Social Security and Medicare. I know the Republicans will never let up on threatening both programs but for one shining moment, they were had but good.
Another Scott
@Elizabelle: It was a very, very bright, beaten egg-yolk yellow, dress. Hard to miss if she was anywhere near a camera.
Cheers,
Scott.
Mallard Filmore
@Elizabelle:
She says she is for freedom, which is why her party wants to outlaw
the gays
abortion
birth control
CRT
“woke” stuff
thongs at the beach
non white history
No mention of snatching babies from refugees at the southern border, or the insurrection. Or how to fix any problem. Not a surprise.
I wonder what a normie thinks when viewing Biden’s speech, followed immediately by Sarah’s speech. Quite the contrast.
Elizabelle
@Mallard Filmore: Yes.
It’s such a whack speech, that I don’t think it will play well with a normal or normie viewer.
Carry on, Sarah. Not gonna let her harsh my mellow.
She’s a liar, liar, liar. Terrible person.
cain
Watching Tom Nichols going gaga over the SOTU was pretty fun. The never trumpers like Rick Wilson also seem to be in love. It was a speech with cunning and just about all of us are here when our leader can smack our opposition to democracy and decency to the ground.
Quinerly
@Alison Rose: whatever
Alison Rose
@Quinerly: Is she your pal or something? She’s a terrible person. Why would I want to spend time reading about her childhood? I don’t care. She’s using her power to do cruel and hateful harm to people. And she enjoys it.
The Moar You Know
Told y’all.
Mike in NC
@Alison Rose: Bizarre article in the local paper went on about how 92% of the avocados we buy are grown in Mexico. The average price for one is $2.50. The US spends over $3B a year on them. So now Mexican farmers are having to travel to market in convoys with police escorts because the cartels want to control the avocado market.
The Moar You Know
@Quinerly: I read that. Worth it indeed. She will run for president sooner rather than later and I suspect she could win. She’s not stupid, is what leapt out to me. The crazy is a very, very good act. She knows who her supporters will be and how to get to them.
Kristine
@Quinerly: Bourbon or rye?
Ohio Mom
@The Moar You Know: Oh god no. MTG would make Trump look like an elder statesman. I can hope America’s misogyny will to protect us from that
Quinerly
@Kristine: Bullet Rye. I love Rye.
But I make Manhattans with Jameson’s. Don’t tell anyone.
sab
@WaterGirl: Next post due shortly?
Quinerly
@The Moar You Know: yep. And a very normal upbringing.
Matt McIrvin
@dmsilev:
They’re not unrelated. In Putin’s mind, what he’s apparently really fighting is the global gay/trans menace. His extreme homophobia and transphobia is one of the reasons so many right-wingers love him.
Quinerly
@Mike in NC: just bought a pretty good sized bag for $5. Albuquerque Costco.
Quinerly
@Alison Rose: your reply is totally uncalled for. She certainly isn’t my pal. I like to be well read. I also have an interest in knowing what we are up against.
gwangung
@The Moar You Know: Actually, I think she’s cunning enough not to leap in at the first wave; she’s going to go after DeSantis (and maybe even Trump again) crash and burn and pick up the pieces. The MAGAts just might turn to her if everybody else falls.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@The Moar You Know: The Gazpacho police beg to differ
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@cain: zeal of a convert
Manyakitty
@sab: My representative!
UncleEbeneezer
@WaterGirl: I had to work and then didn’t think I could stomach seeing the GOP nonsense, but I’ll watch it today or maybe just the highlights. Seems like Biden once again reminded us all not to underestimate him.
WaterGirl
@Quinerly: Raised by wolves?
Uncle Cosmo
@HumboldtBlue: “Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes to the bone…“
Uncle Cosmo
@Alison Rose: I had a boss like that for a couple of years. Card-carrying sociopath. Some time after he got turfed out** I heard about how he grew up and I kinda understood why he was so angry at the world and ready to take it out on anyone he had power over. Not that it made the way he treated his underlings any more acceptable.
** A normal corporation would’ve fired him. A corp that truly cared about the human race would’ve taken him behind the building & had him shot & dumped the body in the creek. (It was his best shot ;^D at making the world a better place.) But he had customers that liked his work & paid top dollar for it, so they simply moved him to an office where he had no subordinates (except for the one cross between a turkey buzzard and remora who asked to go with him)…
Quinerly
@WaterGirl: actually, no. Pretty normal southern upper middle class upbringing.
JustRuss
@Mike in NC: There were a lot of avocado orchards in the area where I grew up in California. Avocado rustlers were a thing, but they’d steal them off the trees rather than hijack trucks.
My friend had a couple trees in his yard, we’d pick some and sell them door to door. Sometimes we’d rustle a few from the neighbors’ trees to augment our supply. (Note to law enforcement: the statute of limitations on this heinous crime expired maaaaany years ago)