senator bat boy hollering louder than a whole pack of hit dogs https://t.co/BMDrS854Se
— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachi) February 17, 2023
GOP Pravda is airing its dirty laundry in public…
cool network, very news https://t.co/ylVDFZ7fHZ
— world famous art thief (@CalmSporting) February 17, 2023
i never much worried about being gaslit by fox news people because i knew they were lying and they knew i knew they were lying but it’s nice to see their texts where they are just like “we are lying, fucking love to lie, can’t wait to lie more tomorrow”
— world famous art thief (@CalmSporting) February 17, 2023
It’s gotten so wild over there, Utah Senator Mike ‘Not Very Bright’ Lee is nostalgic for the Great Depression!
Yeah, 1929-1933 were fucking AWESOME! https://t.co/zJIt4OmbbG
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) February 17, 2023
Oh wild, so what happened in the mid thirties that changed that calculus forever and made the Republic as we have both known it our entire fucking lives https://t.co/g7zcU5yWcd
— Lord Businessman (@BusinessmanLego) February 16, 2023
yes, by any metric. people in tennessee didn’t have electricity, michael. people were literally living in caves during the depression. begging you to read a book. just absolutely begging. https://t.co/QdTdyCSP0q
— world famous art thief (@CalmSporting) February 16, 2023
somebody explain to senator mike lee of utah that before the new deal this social compact we call america was quite literally falling apart pic.twitter.com/bAqFGzN1BM
— world famous art thief (@CalmSporting) February 16, 2023
I guess one thing that's different from me and Mr Lee is that I talked to my grandfather when he was alive about growing up in America as part of the GREATEST GENERATION and one of his clear takeaways was the 30s sucked
— Lord Businessman (@BusinessmanLego) February 16, 2023
Key difference between them and us: Biden could use He kept his promises as a campaign tagline without getting the hairy eyeball. (And watching the Wingnut Wurlitzer gnash its collective fangs would be… kinda fun!)
Just remembered finding pro-Hoover newspaper ads from 1932 newspapers centered around "he kept his promises" which feels like the worst campaign argument of all time
— Brandon H. (@BHIndepMO) February 17, 2023
UncleEbeneezer
gene108
I really can’t understand people’s obsession that the past was somehow better than the present and the future will be worse than both.
A very nihilistic worldview, which is disturbing coming from elected officials.
Jackie
Mike Lee isn’t the only nut in the fruitcake:
“Marianne Williamson (D), the self-help author who went viral during the 2020 Democratic primary for her debate moments before dropping out ahead of the Iowa caucuses, appears on the verge of announcing she’s running again, Politico reports.”
Uncle Joe can practice his debating skills before the main event(s) vs TFG or Meatball Ron.
Baud
@gene108: Agreed. I don’t understand cultures that revel in their misery.
Baud
@UncleEbeneezer:
Are those the same as bots but described using the currently en vogue terminology?
NotMax
@Jackie
“Feel the Woomentum.”
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Major Major Major Major
@UncleEbeneezer:
Not that this is necessary when some of the dumbest takes are coming from antivaxxers, the q crowd, and the left.
And as the article notes, the disinformation is written by human hands–the fake reporters just use “this person does not exist” AI-generated portraits.
I’m honestly less concerned than I used to be about AI polluting the information environment, it’s already completely fucked and AI filtering/search might even improve things.
@Baud: They’re humans with fake portraits.
Baud
@Jackie: The price of crystals is too damn high!
UncleEbeneezer
@Major Major Major Major: Yeah the title is misleading. The real focus is on how it’s a clearly coordinated disinfo campaign. The AI part is just a click-bait detail, imo.
kalakal
@Major Major Major Major:
Natural Stupidity
HumboldtBlue
Murray Waas:
Ken
I see, when Sen. Scott said “all programs would sunset”, he was using a very specific meaning of “all”, which he’s now clarified means “not all”.
Jackie
@gene108: Maybe Lee should talk to folks who actually lived during the Depression. My Dad was a young teen living in OK with his Dad and two younger brothers. They became part of the Grapes of Wrath, working for food and gas money on their way to California. They followed the harvest season up to WA and back to CA for several years until settling in Yakima county (central WA) picking apples, cherries and working odd jobs in between. Dad’s dad made the boys go to school when they could. Dad finally graduated from high school when he was 21.
Maybe Lee should give up his worldly goods and walk lots of miles in Dad’s shoes.
NotMax
@kalakal
Charter members of the congregation of J. R. “Bob” Dobbs followers.
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Jim, Foolish Literalist
Seeing all those texts gives me hope for the Smith investigation, and I reaaaalllly hope the Murdoch family has to write a huge check.
Baud
Related to Mike Lee, I’ll repeat my plea that our side learn to sell progress.
oatler
@Baud:
It’s called “wallowing in their own crapulence”.
kalakal
@NotMax: Never heard of that bunch before, thanks
gene108
@Baud:
It’s happening slowly, but it’s taken a couple of generations and terrible Republican presidents to undo whatever lessons were learned from the 1980’s, when Republicans seemed unbeatable as presidential candidates.
Mike in NC
Getting a bit late on a Friday, and don’t know if it was already mentioned, but I got an email reminder that it was two years ago today that Rush Limbaugh took his dirt nap. I’ll drink to that!
EarthWindFire
@Mike in NC: Thank you for reminding me of my saying when things look bleak…Joe Biden is still president and Rush Limbaugh is still dead!
West of the Rockies
So, to the Fox “News” audience, you get a lie, you get a lie, everybody gets a lie!
Delk
You know you are a graphic designer when you keep wondering why Adobe Illustrator is in the news.
NotMax
Crappy, crappy day, weatherwise.
randy khan
The distinguished Senator from Florida also has changed the last main item in the plan to read:
This, of course, is another lie, since his initial plan specifically called for making everyone, at every income level, pay income tax, which pretty clearly would increase taxes on a bunch of people. I love the bold and all caps. It just reeks of desperation.
cain
@UncleEbeneezer:
Here is one that actually involves chatGPT
https://mastodon.social/@daveleeFT/109876410735127795
chatGPT is plugging in other people’s numbers and saying that’s how they can reach chatGPT on signal.
Anoniminous
@UncleEbeneezer:
Get used to it. Miss Information is going to be the go-to gal for sometime.
cain
As the Joker said in Batman (1986), “I’m glad your dead!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU7gnMSzf_c
cain
I can see AI being used to spread disinformation – those Russians disinformation farms are gonna be replaced by AI – sucks to be them!
Although not sure how they can afford the computing power – I suppose they’ll have to take over all the universities.
tECHIDNA
@gene108: It’s warmed-over and repackaged declinism. Given Tucker’s source of wealth, he’d know all about warmed-over and repackaged things.
Scout211
@HumboldtBlue: I read that Waas substack yesterday and I couldn’t find anything in it that hadn’t already been talked about. The only thing that seemed new was the fact that Waas recently interviewed Solomon and got several different stories from Solomon as to why he was in possession of classified documents.
The part where Trump ordered the Russia interference documents to be declassified and to be released to the public at the end of his term only to have Meadows countermand that order made me laugh again.
Was there anything else that was new?
Anoniminous
If Fox News won a lawsuit by saying they weren’t a News organization and then publicly stated they are a News organization …….. Why isn’t that perjury? Or something?
jackmac
@Mike in NC: Rush Limbaugh’s legacy is that no one will really remember Rush Limbaugh.
KenK
@Baud: revel in your misery, not theirs.
KenK
@Jackie: hats off to your grandfather for his focus on education.
tECHIDNA
@cain: Basically, it’s XKCD #1838 in action. And that comic was (I believe) from 2018!
“Just stir the pile until [the answers] start looking right.”
zhena gogolia
This is really good for a Friday evening. Isto, “I Ain’t Got Nobody.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m347jUKl8yU
Baud
@KenK:
Nominated!
Roger Moore
@gene108:
I can understand it, though I don’t agree with it. The key is the people who think that way are depending on their memories of the past, or sometimes on stories they’ve heard about the past from before they have memories, versus their experiences today. It’s not surprising that most people’s childhood memories are pretty rosy. They remember a relatively carefree world where someone else took care of the difficult stuff, often without them even knowing about it. Of course that’s going to seem like a paradise compared to being one of the responsible people today.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I like to remember that he was Rush Limbaugh III, his father and grandfather were respected judges in Cape Girardeau, MO, small city elite. His father died thinking Rusty was a disappointment and I hope his ghost came to that deathbed to remind him that there was no IV. Also glad there was no IV.
Ruckus
@gene108:
I can’t either and I’ve been around for a few decades to see how far this country has come and how far back rethuglicans are trying to push it so that their wealthy benefactors can make their completely fucking useless lives a tiny, little better helping said wealthy benefactors get a lot wealthier, which the last time this was done we ended up in a depression. But then they don’t want to work or give a damn that we don’t end up in the same place again. Through out my over 7 decades I’ve only seen rethuglicans make the country worse by putting more money into their greedy sponsors palms and leaving the rest of us holding jack and shit.
realbtl
@NotMax: It must be bad, a HI weather warning popped up on my Montana NWS report last night.
zhena gogolia
@Roger Moore: I don’t know, my husband and I both remember HORROR STORIES about the Depression from our parents.
Steve in the ATL
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: you can’t get a Dominican rent boy pregnant!
HumboldtBlue
@Scout211:
No, I posted in the middle of reading, and there’s nothing we didn’t already know.
MomSense
I don’t think that is the real Mike Lee based on the Twitter handle and that the account has a blue check because they are a subscriber. Mike Lee’s senate handle and campaign handle are different.
He is still very much an asshole but I don’t think that’s his tweet.
Baud
@MomSense:
We need AI to help us tell us what’s what.
HumboldtBlue
@Baud:
I thought that’s why you were here.
Elsewhere, such as the White House press briefing room, your White House press corps, ladies and gents.
Roger Moore
@MomSense:
Yeah, it sucks that Elmo has made it harder to recognize fake accounts. That seems like a serious reason to dial back the number of Tweets used on the front page.
Major Major Major Major
@MomSense: believe it or not, his twitter handle really is @basedmikelee https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2022/08/10/bussin-forreal-forreal/
prostratedragon
A version of this came on the radio just as I saw the title of this post: “Ballet of the Unhatched Chicks,” Mossorgsky/Janis
Baud
@HumboldtBlue:
Yeah, but no one listens to me.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
Is Base D his rap name?
HumboldtBlue
What would happen if a hostile nation invaded America?
Something like this, I’d imagine.
cain
@Baud: It’s his moral standing – base deplorable.
RSA
There have been times when search engines ranked artificial insemination pages higher than artificial intelligence pages, depending on the query.
Dan B
Breaking news: TFG called in to FOX News during the insurrection and they refused to put him on air.
Gee, I wonder what message he wanted to blast out that spooked FOX?
Bostondreams
Duval County fires teacher for embarrassing DeSantis.
Not concerning at all.
FelonyGovt
@zhena gogolia: So do I. My dad would have loved to be a teacher, but he had to drop out of college in the ‘30’s to support his mother and sisters. He and my mom were frugal to a fault, stemming from their Depression days.
cain
Apparently, over the last 29 years the size of the erect penis has increased from an average size of 4.8 inches to 6 inches. This study though wonders if the changes is something to be alarmed about:
https://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2023/02/14/is-an-increase-in-penile-length-cause-for-concern/
I agree that men have become bigger dicks looking at adherents to one party. I would say that it is more than the 24% that was reported here.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
We also didn’t have an Airforce or any intelligence agencies.
Dan B
@RSA: LOL!
Is this a reason for a series “Tales from the Net”?
Baud
@cain:
Aren’t people generally bigger because of better nutrition and access to calories?
patrick II
The only entity capable of making FOX pay for its lies seems to be a large business with direct and provable financial loss. I have been hoping against hope that there was some business somewhere that had a nexus of COVID cases that caused them financial harm and could show that people listening and believing FOX anti-vaccine lies was an important cause of why they suffered such a loss. Maybe a large hospital chain.
I know it’s difficult to show a direct cause like Dominion likely can. But I would bet there is a strong statistical correlation between Tucker/Hannity fans and less vaccination and more illness.
I know I am spitting into the wind. But it is so hard to accept that they blithely cause so many deaths and there is no way that I know to legally hold them responsible.
HumboldtBlue
Grab your tissues, another rescue from the rubble in Turkey, more than 260 hours after the quake.
Kent
It is generally white males. For whom the past in the 1950s or so might well have been better. Professional job with a good salary, wife meets you at the door with a martini, etc.
No one asks if life was better back then if you were a Black girl in Mississippi who wanted to become a doctor. Or a Hispanic girl in California who wanted to be a pilot when she grew up. Etc.
kalakal
@Bostondreams:
DeSnowflake really is a delicate little flower. I get more worried about living here every fay. I hope this guy can sue
Bill Arnold
@MomSense:
I’m using the free “Eight Dollars” extension (chrome, plugin also works in Firefox) and it shows that account as $ Paid (with a real Verified showing up in replies.) Useful plugin/extension.
That’s apparently his personal account:
No cap, bussin, forreal, forreal: Sen. Mike Lee’s personal Twitter account is called ‘BasedMikeLee’ (MAKENA KELLY , Aug 10, 2022)
WereBear
@Baud: yes, since we’re also talking about the depression. The school lunch program started when the Great War draft found many were too malnourished to be accepted.
Or like now, actually. From eating food with no nutrition. Up to a third can’t be boot camped into shape.
We need a bigger school lunch program.
dm
@patrick II: Well, there’s this from 2020 (early in the pandemic):
https://www.npr.org/local/309/2020/05/04/849109486/study-finds-more-c-o-v-i-d-19-cases-among-viewers-of-fox-news-host-who-downplayed-pandemic
A year later (June 2021) Hannity was telling his viewers to “take COVID seriously” and to get vaccinated, but by that time the partisan divide had taken hold.
Major Major Major Major
@cain: weird!
@Baud: body temperature is also no longer 98.5 now that population-wide inflammation has decreased.
Scout211
@cain: Now I don’t have to feel awkward about posting that in the “fun facts” thread. LOL
ETA : Here’s the published study:
The World Journal of Men’s Health
Baud
@Major Major Major Major:
No wonder I’m always so cold.
Roger Moore
@dm:
I think it shows the limits of anyone’s influence. People bought the initial lie that COVID was a hoax so strongly they couldn’t be convinced otherwise later. As hard as he tried- and I think he did honestly try- Trump couldn’t convince people they needed to get vaccinated. I suspect the same thing would be true of trying to convince people today that the 2020 election was fair. Once they’ve gone far enough, there’s no turning around.
oldgold
I just do not understand how people like Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee get nominated for high office and then win elections. They are literally creeps. It oozes out of them for all to see.
Not every pol needs to be charismatic, but you would think that being so palpably shuddersome would be disqualifying.
Ken
@HumboldtBlue: I prefer Rick’s answer in Casablanca: “There are certain sections of New York, Major, that I would not advise you to try to invade.”
Helen
@gene108: In 1992, I thought Bill Clinton and Al Gore ran a campaign optimistic about the future. Both the music and the speeches were positive and uplifting. In contrast, the Republicans were doomsayers. Biden is a cheerful and optimistic person. I think we forget how powerful optimism and hope and humor are.
HumboldtBlue
@Ken:
That fits too.
persistentillusion
@Major Major Major Major: My body temp has been around 97.3 since radiation for cancer. Outliers, now wearing multiple layers FTW!
Jackie
@persistentillusion: My normal body temp is 97.6 – as discovered 46 yrs ago when taking daily temp to see if/when I was ovulating. 98.6 is the AVERAGE temperature; not the rule.
Ken
I feel we shouldn’t be dismissing Senator Scott’s proposal without trying an experiment first. Let’s pick one federal program — say, the one that provides coastal storm and flood insurance in areas that no sane capitalist company will touch — and sunset it. Then we’ll see if the Congress, in its wisdom, chooses to renew the program.
(Though now that I say it, I find it bizarre that Sen. Scott’s proposal to “stop Congress from bankrupting America” is to… have Congress do it.)
Other MJS
There is no
sunsetcannibalism in the British navy, absolutely none, and when I say none, I mean there is a certain amount.DrDaveChemist
@Jackie: It’s pretty clear that 98.6 F isn’t even average. The original data were more than a century ago and were reported as 37 C, probably rounded off to the nearest whole number and using thermometers that might not even be all that well calibrated by modern standards. Plus, as you note, many factors, including ovulation, lead to variation in what constitutes “normal” for an individual.
Probably better to say that a fever starts at around 100 F (or 38 C) and not worry until you cross that threshold.
HumboldtBlue
@DrDaveChemist:
This is why we read this blog.
smith
Another factor in the general decline in body temperature is the increasing average age of the population. Body temp declines as you age, so with old people a greater percentage of the population, average temp will go down.
NotMax
Steering money the old-fashioned way.
That amounts are not rounded up or down to the nearest dollar tickles my fancy.
Also too, is it just me or does Stachniw & Throgmartin sound like a name for a mortuary in Ankh-Morpork?
Sister Golden Bear
Meanwhile Republicans are queuing up the Golden Oldies:
Also, Sam Smith gets called a pedophile and groomer while walking in the NYC, as anti-LGBT incidents have increased exponentially over the last two years.
Johnathan Chiat doubles down on anti-trans hit piece the New Yorker, which both an editor and fact checker there say were never fact checked. But he’s “just asking questions.”
Meanwhile editors at FTFNYT send out an internal memo that ‘will not tolerate’ its journalists protesting coverage of transgender people.
And the Onion spares no mercy: It Is Journalism’s Sacred Duty To Endanger The Lives Of As Many Trans People As Possible except:
The whole thing is a work of art.
El Muneco
@cain: It’s just men becoming more shameless about lying in self-reporting.
Aussie Sheila
@Roger Moore: political nostalgia is the Petri dish of reactionary politics. The past whatever it was, was not good for women, minorities and people who had bacterial infections and toothache among other things.
Whether the future can be a lot better depends on people putting their shoulder to the wheel to move everybody forward, not whinging about how good our grandparents had it. Things can move backwards. Try the overthrow of guaranteed rights for women’s reproductive freedom. How did that happen I wonder?
Well I remember a bunch of US F wits saying they shouldn’t be ‘blackmailed by the threat of losing the Supreme Court’ into voting for Clinton in 2016.
How did that work out?
Absolute garbage. Anyone pining for the past is objectively reactionary. Anyone not working for a better future is a fool.
sab
@Jackie: Judging by the Covid era sign in log at my dad’s nursing home, nobody over the age of 60 ( i.e. children of the residents) has a temperature as high as 98°.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
My first thought, you gotta fucking be kidding me. My second, this was as predictable as the sunrise
Mike in NC
@Sister Golden Bear: At least a dozen Republican psychos in the House have proposed bills to spend billions of dollars to build that goddamn wall that Mexico never agreed to pay for. Fat Bastard remains the greatest snake oil salesman that ever met a stupid American.
David 🏈 Mahomes! 🏈 Koch
@Jackie:
She’s running; I didn’t even know she was a jogger
Princess
@Aussie Sheila: The loudest ringleader of the “who cares about the court” disinformation campaign was actually an Australian, Caitlin Johnstone. I remembered her just today because I saw her, now caping for Putin.
Barry
@Baud: “Agreed. I don’t understand cultures that revel in their misery.”
They are assuming that *they* would have the goodies and that people they like would not. In Lee’s case, he hates democracy, and there would be far less back then.
Also, he’s ignorant.
Matt McIrvin
The modern conservative-thought-bubble response to Hoover’s failure comes from Amity Shlaes: the reason for the Depression was that Hoover was too much of a tax-and-spend liberal, FDR’s spending just made it all worse, and Calvin Coolidge would have handled it fine. Their support for this assertion is to say it again, louder, with citations of Amity Shlaes saying it.
Matt McIrvin
@DrDaveChemist: Most people’s body temperatures seem to be a little lower than 37C, though it also tends to be lowest in the morning and increase throughout the day. I know that for me, 99 Fahrenheit is a mild fever–I had a day or two of that when I got COVID.
Matt McIrvin
@Roger Moore:
Trump did not try at all when it counted, which was during his last couple of months in office as President. He was pissed off at the vaccine makers for not announcing they had something until after Election Day, and he was focused 100% on trying to mount a coup to stay in office.
Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Barack Obama, and George Freaking Doubleyou Bush all made public announcements and PSAs promoting vaccination. Trump would not do it.
What he did was to advocate vaccination many months later, after his anti-mask movement had already morphed into an adamant anti-vax movement–and he backed down instantly and started talking about your right to refuse whenever people booed him for it.
So I give him zero credit for that.
Matt McIrvin
@Sister Golden Bear: Good God, the Onion murdered The New York Times. I do wonder if the piece is a little too inside-baseball.
trnc
@randy khan:
That’s some gold medal cognitive dissonance right there.
J R in WV
When I came home to the small coal town I grew up in after being discharged from the Navy, I took a job with a formal foreman in charge of the shop, named Charley Goode. He was an infantryman in Europe during WW II, and when he came from the Army he got a job with the Rural Electrification Agency, a federal program founded by FDR.
In the late 1940s rural homes had no electricity, it was just like living on a farm in 1600, or 1700, before useful electricity was invented. Especially in rural West Virginia, there was no electric power outside prosperous cities or coal company towns prior to Rural Electrification projects successfully bringing power to farms and homes in the countryside.
Now try to imagine Republican blow-hards trying to live without any electric power!?!? Amazing thought, isn’t it? Yet when you ask them what the federal government has ever done for them, they can’t tell you about Social Security, Rural Electrification, Medical care, hospitals, none of those federal programs exists for them~!!~
Too stupid to breathe without help…