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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Human Beings Can’t Do This

Human Beings Can’t Do This

by Tom Levenson|  February 19, 202312:20 pm| 131 Comments

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Valued commentator Raven mentioned the NBA’s slam dunk contest in a thread below.  Seems a tiny (in context) fringe player put on a show.

I sought out the video.  Dayum.  It seems that an anti-gravity machine has been invented, not to mention a command of kinematics that I had assumed both the laws of both physics and magic had ruled out:

 

 

All these athletes are just insanely talented.  Here are the highlights from the whole competition.

 

 

This is what you would call an above-the-rim open thread.

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  1. 1.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 12:30 pm

    I hope he makes a run for the Sixers.

  2. 2.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 12:37 pm

    100k for da win. If this place is anti-football it’s brain dead when it come to the hoop!

  3. 3.

    trollhattan

    February 19, 2023 at 12:41 pm

    Hoo dat? Don’t watch enough hoops to keep up, although that could change as our local sportsballers could (emphasis on could) make the playoffs this year after the league’s longest drought.

    Watching those guys reminds me of the old Spike Lee Air Jordan ad: “You can buy these” [displays shoes] “you can’t do this” [Jordan dunks].

    Feel similarly about alpine skiers. Nobody knows what it’s like to be Mikaela Shiffrin other than Makaela Shiffrin. 80 mph on I-5 is one thing; 80 mph hurtling down a mountain with boards nailed to your feet is something entirely else.

  4. 4.

    Leto

    February 19, 2023 at 12:41 pm

    So, what I’m watching is a repudiation of Spike Lee’s seminal thesis of… White Men Can’t Jump.
    I’ll see myself out.​

    Edit: and the kid plays for the hometown. Nice.

  5. 5.

    twbrandt

    February 19, 2023 at 12:43 pm

    McClung is amazing, but it looks like traveling isn’t a thing in the NBA anymore.

  6. 6.

    delphinium

    February 19, 2023 at 12:45 pm

    That was cool! And boy was McClung having so much fun doing those dunks.

  7. 7.

    Jerry

    February 19, 2023 at 12:45 pm

    I couldn’t make it to the outdoor hockey game in Raleigh last night (too expensive for my blood) but it was a joy to watch on the tee vee. My fellow citizens in Caniac Nation showed up big time for the event.

  8. 8.

    Jerry

    February 19, 2023 at 12:46 pm

    @Leto:  …Spike Lee’s seminal thesis of… White Men Can’t Jump.

    I don’t think Spike had anything to do with that movie

  9. 9.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 12:47 pm

    @Jerry: Nope but Lanier was the technical guy

    It’s being remade!

  10. 10.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    February 19, 2023 at 12:48 pm

    @trollhattan: Anyone can go fast on skis.  Dunking on the other hand…. : )

  11. 11.

    Tom Levenson

    February 19, 2023 at 12:49 pm

    Hasn’t been for a while…

    and this is an exhibition.

  12. 12.

    James E Powell

    February 19, 2023 at 12:49 pm

    @raven:

    I never mention basketball because no one else does.

  13. 13.

    James E Powell

    February 19, 2023 at 12:50 pm

    @twbrandt:

    TBH, traveling calls are up this year. The refs don’t always get it right though.

  14. 14.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 12:50 pm

    @James E Powell: I’m glad to see ya chime in, It’s my first love! (college, not NBA which I watch when the playoff’s begin).

  15. 15.

    trollhattan

    February 19, 2023 at 12:52 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: Anyone can go fast on skis.

    You first! I’ll be in the lodge.

  16. 16.

    Big R

    February 19, 2023 at 12:52 pm

    Another misleading headline from an editor, as it’s clear that human beings definitely can do this! There’s even video!

  17. 17.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 19, 2023 at 12:52 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: Anyone can go fast on skis?  GAH!!!!!

  18. 18.

    trollhattan

    February 19, 2023 at 12:53 pm

    USWNT plays Japan today. You know what to do.

  19. 19.

    twbrandt

    February 19, 2023 at 12:54 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: Anyone can go fast on skis. Doing without killing yourself is a whole different thing, though.

  20. 20.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 12:56 pm

    @trollhattan: Yea, what I’m doing, watching Tiger!

  21. 21.

    lashonharangue

    February 19, 2023 at 12:56 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Hoo dat?

    He is a fringe player – undrafted, G league (NBA minor league), and very short stints on a few NBA teams.  Shows you the level of the guys who make the NBA.  Has to improve the rest of his game to make it.

  22. 22.

    Dangerman

    February 19, 2023 at 12:59 pm

    Dude has freak hops but can he ball? I have a feeling he’s Pedro Cerrano and he can’t hit a curve.

  23. 23.

    James E Powell

    February 19, 2023 at 1:06 pm

    @raven:

    I follow the NBA & college and both more intensely in the playoffs & March Madness. Huge Cavs fan. Love the fact that the team is competitive & drawing fans w/o LeBron, no disrespect to him.

    It’s our first post-Coach K season. Interesting & unfamiliar teams are at the top of the rankings.

  24. 24.

    trollhattan

    February 19, 2023 at 1:08 pm

    @raven: He seems nice.

  25. 25.

    oldgold

    February 19, 2023 at 1:10 pm

    Speaking of hoops, has anyone been following Caitlin Clark. She is the Pistol Pete of Women’s basketball.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35zHf3UEo0c

  26. 26.

    trollhattan

    February 19, 2023 at 1:10 pm

    @lashonharangue: Thanks. Hard to believe anybody can go from G league to winning the dunk contest, but as you say there are more ballers than teams to fit them.

  27. 27.

    Immanentize

    February 19, 2023 at 1:12 pm

    This is so cool — 50! Dunks. That young man can fly. Personally, I like the amazing pass play from a fake lay up better than the slam; still, crazy!

    Michael Harriot snarked: “That was affirmative action.”

  28. 28.

    Immanentize

    February 19, 2023 at 1:15 pm

    @lashonharangue: You get a 2 week contract on the 76ers; what better way to spend that short time in the show than crushing the dunkfest?

  29. 29.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 1:15 pm

    @James E Powell: I’m an Illini born and bred.

  30. 30.

    Mike E

    February 19, 2023 at 1:17 pm

    @raven: it was a wink/nudge contract, with NBA (and Sixers obliging) looking to generate interest in a stale event shunned by the star players and stuffed with silly gimmicks during the all-star break. The kid has a good handle but isn’t a good perimeter shooter or defender, and 6’2″ is a liability in this league of agile giants. Fun story though!

  31. 31.

    patrick II

    February 19, 2023 at 1:18 pm

    Old fat men can play basketball too.
    Streetball

  32. 32.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 1:18 pm

    @Mike E: Fun is what it’s all about, no?

  33. 33.

    Mike E

    February 19, 2023 at 1:20 pm

    @raven: Lordy, long suffering Phila fans everywhere need to embrace joy whenever we can that’s for sure

  34. 34.

    eddie blake

    February 19, 2023 at 1:23 pm

    @raven:  big knicks fan. been following them for well, decades. really excited about the young core and the addition of brunson who is the point guard the knicks have been desperately in need of for well, decades.

  35. 35.

    Geminid

    February 19, 2023 at 1:24 pm

    @James E Powell: I’m a huge Cavs fan too!

    I’m hoping they make it to the Round of 16. Not sure Coach Bennett’s team is Final Four material this year, though.

  36. 36.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 1:24 pm

    @eddie blake: It would be great for the game if they do better.

  37. 37.

    eclare

    February 19, 2023 at 1:25 pm

    @trollhattan:   Saw that.  What an ass.  And of course he responds with the non-apology apology.

  38. 38.

    Mike in Pasadena

    February 19, 2023 at 1:27 pm

    GQP Hair is on fire about debt and threatening debt ceiling default. They can prove they aren’t hypocrites by letting the remaining provisions of the 2017 Tax Reform Act expire by its own terms in 2025 for $2 trillion in easy debt reduction. Of course, we all know they are not serious about debt reduction.

  39. 39.

    eclare

    February 19, 2023 at 1:30 pm

    @Mike in Pasadena:   I read an article that said that Democrats have boxed themselves into a corner on this one because Joe promised not to raise taxes on anyone making under 400k.  Most of the benefits go to higher earners, but some do go to people making under 400k.

  40. 40.

    Immanentize

    February 19, 2023 at 1:30 pm

    @Mike E: This:
    I-76 by G. Love

    Get along 76ers
    Charles Barkley dissed Larry Bird
    Get along 76ers
    Charles Barkley dissed Larry Bird

  41. 41.

    Kent

    February 19, 2023 at 1:31 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann:@trollhattan: Anyone can go fast on skis.  Dunking on the other hand…. : )

    Says no one ever who has stood on top of a double black diamond ski run and said “what can I do to stay off my edges and make sure I get maximum speed out of this run”

  42. 42.

    kalakal

    February 19, 2023 at 1:31 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann:

    Anyone can go fast on skis.

    Once

  43. 43.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 1:32 pm

    watch the dog attack a shark

  44. 44.

    Kent

    February 19, 2023 at 1:33 pm

    @eclare:@Mike in Pasadena:   I read an article that said that Democrats have boxed themselves into a corner on this one because Joe promised not to raise taxes on anyone making under 400k.  Most of the benefits go to higher earners, but some do go to people making under 400k.

    There is no corner.  2025 is a long ways away and no one needs to do anything about it now.

    And for that matter, whatever tax increases might go into effect in 2025 were voted on my Republicans not Democrats.

    All Biden has to is send it back and say “fix the part about taxpayers under $400,000.”

  45. 45.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 1:34 pm

    @Immanentize: I hate fucking Barkely. My friend and boss was dying if cancer and she loved him. There was a Auburn Hall of Fame event at the school and she managed tickets and the asshole didn’t show.

  46. 46.

    eclare

    February 19, 2023 at 1:35 pm

    @Kent:   True.  The 2024 election will be over, I had not considered that.

  47. 47.

    kalakal

    February 19, 2023 at 1:38 pm

    Reaction times get crazy in high level sports. What I’d never have guessed is that that fastest moving object in sports is a Badminton shuttlecock at nearly 500 km/h

    https://olympic.ca/2014/09/11/shuttlecock-and-balls-the-fastest-moving-objects-in-sport/#:~:text=Badminton%20%E2%80%93%20493%20km%2Fh,fastest%20recorded%20object%20in%20sports%3F

  48. 48.

    Kent

    February 19, 2023 at 1:45 pm

    @kalakal: faster than the arrows shot in archery,?  Faster than hockey pucks?  faster than a baseball coming off a bat?

    Or for that matter, faster than the bullets shot out of rifles in shooting events and biathlon?

  49. 49.

    Immanentize

    February 19, 2023 at 1:51 pm

    @raven: Yeah, Barkley was a well-known shithead.

    But it’s a great song.

    I haven’t yet — but have you watched the Bill Russell documentary on Netflix? It’s in my Q

  50. 50.

    James E Powell

    February 19, 2023 at 1:55 pm

    @Geminid:

    I should have been more specific. I am a huge fan of my beloved hometown Cleveland Cavaliers.

  51. 51.

    eclare

    February 19, 2023 at 1:55 pm

    @kalakal:   Wow!  Interesting article.

  52. 52.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 1:56 pm

    @Immanentize: No but I plan to.

  53. 53.

    James E Powell

    February 19, 2023 at 1:57 pm

    @eclare:

    What’s that? An article saying the Democrats are doing it wrong? I will have to check that out because an article saying that is an unusual thing.

  54. 54.

    eddie blake

    February 19, 2023 at 1:58 pm

    @raven: this is the best run they’ve made in years and the best, most talented group of players since 2013. would be very nice to see them as playoff regulars again. they’ve done quite well against division rivals this season.

    no one at all expected them to be sixth seed before the season started and yet here we are.

  55. 55.

    kalakal

    February 19, 2023 at 2:01 pm

    @Kent: Arrows top out at around 320 kmh. Baseball hits & hockey pucks at around 160.

    Bullets are kind of outside the scope of the article

  56. 56.

    Baud

    February 19, 2023 at 2:04 pm

    @James E Powell:

    👍

  57. 57.

    Kent

    February 19, 2023 at 2:07 pm

    @kalakal: OK then.  Hard to believe, but OK.

    Modern badminton racquets must have some seriously elastic composite material technology in them in order to generate that much acceleration.

  58. 58.

    eclare

    February 19, 2023 at 2:11 pm

    @Kent:   There is a video in the article about racquets.

  59. 59.

    kalakal

    February 19, 2023 at 2:11 pm

    @Kent: I didn’t believe it either, I know badmintons a fast game but….

    I’d have thought a squash ball or a golf ball myself

  60. 60.

    Baud

    February 19, 2023 at 2:20 pm

    @Kent:

    By guess is that shuttlecocks decelerate faster than any other type of equipment too.

  61. 61.

    Gin & Tonic

    February 19, 2023 at 2:22 pm

    @raven: Hey!

  62. 62.

    RSA

    February 19, 2023 at 2:28 pm

    @Mike E:  The kid has a good handle but isn’t a good perimeter shooter or defender, and 6’2″ is a liability in this league of agile giants. Fun story though!

    Yup. I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said.  I’ll add though that Ja Morant is one of my favorite players to watch, and at 6’2″ he’s pretty amazing.

    https://youtu.be/VAMmeIiINoU

  63. 63.

    Gin & Tonic

    February 19, 2023 at 2:30 pm

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: I’m a good recreational skier. I run a phone app that tracks number of runs, speed, etc. Anyway, I have verifiably gone 55 mph while downhill skiing, and I cannot possibly imagine an additional 25 mph. It’s another world entirely.

  64. 64.

    Jackie

    February 19, 2023 at 2:31 pm

    O/T: President Biden’s statement re Day of Remembrance of Japanese American Incarceration

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/02/19/statement-from-president-joseph-r-biden-jr-on-the-day-of-remembrance-of-japanese-american-incarceration/

    My Dad never stopped talking about this; he lived in Toppenish, WA, which had a large Japanese population at this time. He had several friends whose entire families *disappeared overnight* during this time. The majority never returned after the war.

  65. 65.

    Leslie

    February 19, 2023 at 2:38 pm

    @Jackie: My dad grew up in the Los Angeles area and said the same thing.

  66. 66.

    Jackie

    February 19, 2023 at 2:42 pm

    @Leslie: A tragic blemish in our history.

  67. 67.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 2:43 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I love to see I was wrong!

  68. 68.

    Craig

    February 19, 2023 at 2:47 pm

    @Immanentize: I liked it. Always hated the Celtics. Movie made me reevaluate Red Auerbach. He seems to have been a great coach, good person. Always respected Russell.

  69. 69.

    Searcher

    February 19, 2023 at 2:49 pm

    @twbrandt: Everything is air-droppable at least once.

  70. 70.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 19, 2023 at 2:57 pm

    @lashonharangue:

    He can’t improve anything in his game to make the league, he needs to be 6’6, and he can’t make that happen. Mac has all the offensive skills needed to make it in the league, he’s a liability on defense. He gets targeted every trip down the floor by the opposition.

    Mac can shoot, handle, drive and jump — he broke the Virginia high school single-season scoring record set by Allen Iverson (another 76er all-time great) and the career scoring record set by JJ Redick (another former 76er) and his mixtapes from high school make this dunk competition look like practice.

    And in much sadder news, if it hasn’t been mentioned yet, Richard Belzer has died.

  71. 71.

    Steve in the ATL

    February 19, 2023 at 2:58 pm

    @raven: If this place is anti-football

    Not everyone here! Some of us are ready for a three-peat!

  72. 72.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 3:06 pm

    @Steve in the ATL: Woof! I had to order “replica” tix and programs from the Natty and I got em this week.

  73. 73.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 19, 2023 at 3:15 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I have skied the Streif in Kitzbuhel  a number of times.  I could ski the 80% of the course that is open to the public at about 35 mph.  My thighs would be screaming, and I would usually stop once or twice on the way.  A good fast run that took about 10 minutes.  The racers do it in two.​

  74. 74.

    cmoren

    February 19, 2023 at 3:15 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Feel similarly about alpine skiers. Nobody knows what it’s like to be Mikaela Shiffrin other than Makaela Shiffrin. 80 mph on I-5 is one thing; 80 mph hurtling down a mountain with boards nailed to your feet is something entirely else.

    It’s not just the 80mph part, ski race courses are also deliberately hard-packed down to conditions recreational skiiers would consider “icy”.  And if you catch a ski edge on one of the gates, you can take a really nasty, twisting, helicoptering fall at high speed, often unstoppably sliding and tumbling until you hit a retaining fence.

  75. 75.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 3:20 pm

    @cmoren: Yea but football is dangerous.

  76. 76.

    WaterGirl

    February 19, 2023 at 3:25 pm

    @Jackie: Shameful.  Even more shameful that a fair portion of Republicans would gladly do the same thing with the people they spend their days “other-ing”

    I appreciate your link to Biden’s statement.  I think we’ll do a Medium Cool thread about this soon.

  77. 77.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 19, 2023 at 3:28 pm

    Indiana has won the Big 10 men’s regular season title, first time since 1983.

  78. 78.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 3:29 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: In what? They are 10-6 and the Boilers are 12-4  with 4 games to go. They won the women’s if that’s what you mean?

  79. 79.

    p.a.

    February 19, 2023 at 3:31 pm

    Open thread so…

    In the last week I’ve parked next to an Aston Martin SUV (the DBX)- a sign the apocalypse is approaching…

    Been behind a Ram 3500 Magnum spewing black from the tailpipe an with and apparently trio of chrome airhorns mounted facing back, by the rear diff- a sign the apocalypse maybe can’t come soon enough.

  80. 80.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 3:32 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    The Indiana University women’s basketball team clinched a share of the 2022-23 Big Ten Conference women’s basketball title Sunday afternoon with its 83-60 win over Purdue before a record-setting 17,222 fans at a sold-out Simon Skjodt Assembly Hall in Bloomington, Ind. With the victory, the Hoosiers improve to 16-1 in conference play this year and hold a 1.5-game lead over Iowa (14-2) — Indiana has one game remaining in the regular season, while Iowa has two.

  81. 81.

    eddie blake

    February 19, 2023 at 3:37 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:  immanuel quickley is 6’2″ so is jalen brunson. miles mcbride is 6’1″. they’re some of the league’s toughest wing defenders. quickley should win 6th man and it was a shonda that brunson wasn’t asked to play in the all-star game.

    that dude can jump like that? he can play defense. all it takes is hustle, effort and will. it’s not that people can’t play defense, it’s that either they’ve never been taught how to do it or they don’t want to do it (see: anthony, carmelo).

  82. 82.

    kalakal

    February 19, 2023 at 3:39 pm

    @p.a.: I just looked up the price of that Aston Martin. Wow!

  83. 83.

    eclare

    February 19, 2023 at 3:44 pm

    @cmoren:   I grew up in the south, and I have cross country skied once while at a conference.  That was enough, it is not for me.

  84. 84.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 19, 2023 at 3:46 pm

    @kalakal: Try the Bentley Bentago.

  85. 85.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 19, 2023 at 3:48 pm

    @raven:

    Yes, sorry, women.

    @eddie blake:

    Mac is generously listed at 6’2 and despite what other players of a similar size can do (Carmelo is an absurd comparison, he’s a 6’9 scorer who is #11 on the all-time NBA scoring list), Mac is a huge liability on defense. There are good reasons he’s in the G League.

    He stands little chance of getting any court time with the Sixers IF he is called up, which I doubt he will be, the Sixers only have one open roster spot, and they want to use that on a big.

    I watch every Sixers game and the Sixers subreddit was a blast last night watching Mac win, but that’s probably all we will see of him in the red, white, and blue.

  86. 86.

    Tom Levenson

    February 19, 2023 at 3:49 pm

    @kalakal: Ooof.

    This whole thing about performance SUVs has me going “huh?”

    But the Porsche truck arguably saved the company. Maserati has one (I’ve seen it in the wild, even). Folks w. more money than sense seem to like them.

  87. 87.

    billcinsd

    February 19, 2023 at 3:53 pm

    @Mike E: he was already going to the dunk contest as the G-league rep

  88. 88.

    cintibud

    February 19, 2023 at 3:55 pm

    @eddie blake: I’m a Dayton fan and have been following the Knicks since they drafted Obi Toppin. Wish they would trade him someplace where he can play

  89. 89.

    kalakal

    February 19, 2023 at 4:03 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Wow again!

    @Tom Levenson: More money than sense sums it up for me

  90. 90.

    eddie blake

    February 19, 2023 at 4:03 pm

    @cintibud: he’s got some really tremendous skills and athleticism. he’s also really the only backup randle has.  it’s just that thibs is real finnicky with his lineups  and is afraid to play them at the same time.

    the problem is, randle is clearly playing all-star caliber basketball. thibs needs to find a better way to balance minutes

    eta- really the difference in play quality between nerlens noel and hartenstein when mitch went down points to the value toppin has for the knicks on the pine.

     

    also, SO love that dude wears #1… he’s obi-1…

  91. 91.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 19, 2023 at 4:05 pm

    @Tom Levenson: @kalakal: Footballers’ cars.

  92. 92.

    Miss Bianca

    February 19, 2023 at 4:11 pm

    Open thread? I would like to report that my theater, whose movie screen went dark almost exactly three years ago, is finally back! Between COVID and projector issues exacerbated by COVID, we didn’t know when we’d ever be showing movies again. But now my office is shaking to the soundtrack of Top Gun: Maverick. Woot!

  93. 93.

    Another Scott

    February 19, 2023 at 4:14 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Made me look.  I knew that Ford owned them for a while… Wikipedia:

    In July 2022, Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF) will take a stake in the company through a £78 million equity placing as well as a £575 million separate rights issue, giving it two board seats in the company. After the rights issue, the Saudi fund will have a 16.7% stake in Aston Martin, behind the 18.3% holding by Stroll’s Yew Tree consortium while the Mercedes-Benz Group will own 9.7%.[148][149][150] In September 2022, Chinese automaker Geely acquired a 7.6% stake in the company.[151][152][153] In December 2022, Stroll and the Yew Tree consortium increased their stake in the company to 28.29%.[154][155]

    Looks like an awful lot of cooks in that kitchen…

    Dunno what that means going forward.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  94. 94.

    eclare

    February 19, 2023 at 4:16 pm

    @Miss Bianca:   Great news!

  95. 95.

    Baud

    February 19, 2023 at 4:17 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    congrats!

  96. 96.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    February 19, 2023 at 4:19 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Yay! What happy news.

  97. 97.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 19, 2023 at 4:20 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    Fantastic!

    @Another Scott:

    Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF)

    That same fund now owns one of the sleeping giants of English and European football — Newcastle United — much to the chagrin of nearly everyone but Geordies.

  98. 98.

    kalakal

    February 19, 2023 at 4:26 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Oh that is good news!

  99. 99.

    Miss Bianca

    February 19, 2023 at 4:27 pm

    @eclare:

    @Baud:

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    @HumboldtBlue: Thanks, y’all! I’m pretty pleased about it myself!

  100. 100.

    Jager

    February 19, 2023 at 4:36 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I’m a lifelong skier, I’m pretty good, NASTAR Gold level. A guy I know was on the US development team in the 60s, he had a brand new pair of 190cm Head Downhill racing skis. I put a set of bindings on them and used them off and on for a few seasons in the 80s. I usually ski Vokl 207 cm skis. Those old Heads were really fast, easy to turn at speed, and almost impossible to turn at slow speeds. I skied from the top of Norway Face to the lodge at Arapahoe Basin, my legs were burning so badly that I thought my pants were going to catch fire.

  101. 101.

    cmorenc

    February 19, 2023 at 4:42 pm

    @twbrandt:

    Far more important than “can you go fast on skis without killing yourself” is whether you can do so without killing someone else.  There is a prominent sign at the entrance to the tram at snowbird ski are in Utah that says: “you were doing 55…she was 5”

  102. 102.

    TheronWare

    February 19, 2023 at 4:44 pm

    That was siiiick!

  103. 103.

    Jager

    February 19, 2023 at 4:44 pm

    @Jager:  I don’t know what I was thinking, the Head Downhill skis were 8 inches longer than my regular skis, wider and stiffer. I not going out to the garage and dig them out to get the exact length

  104. 104.

    billcinsd

    February 19, 2023 at 4:45 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: much to the chagrin of nearly everyone but Geordies.

    and ManU fans are all “oil me up”, as they hope the Qataris who haven’t made it work at PSG push out the Glazers

  105. 105.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 19, 2023 at 4:47 pm

    @billcinsd:

    Yup.

  106. 106.

    Brachiator

    February 19, 2023 at 4:51 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    And in much sadder news, if it hasn’t been mentioned yet, Richard Belzer has died.

    Sad news. I remember seeing him perform as a comedian a number of times on TV. Really enjoyed his work on the series “Homicide” one of the truly great TV shows.

  107. 107.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 19, 2023 at 4:55 pm

    @Brachiator:

    I was just watching some of his old clips. Munch will go down as one of the most legendary characters we have seen on TV.

  108. 108.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 19, 2023 at 4:57 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Woot!

  109. 109.

    prostratedragon

    February 19, 2023 at 4:57 pm

    @Jackie: ​ I remember a friend and mentor whose family lost a thriving half-section in the Sacremento valley. He and his sister wound up in Chicago. I found their names and those of their parents (not a common surname) in that new registry.

  110. 110.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    February 19, 2023 at 5:02 pm

    @kalakal: I got bruises from being hit with a slam from a bird when I played varsity badminton in the 1970s. It has only become faster as the years passed.

  111. 111.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 19, 2023 at 5:03 pm

    @Jager: Yeah, downhill racing skis just do not respond at any rational speed.  I used to ski a pair 195 Dynastar GS racers.  I have been renting for a while, but I think I want to get a pair of Volkl all-mountain skis next.  Shaped skis are a very different animal.  I am back to skis shorter than I am.

  112. 112.

    Brachiator

    February 19, 2023 at 5:06 pm

    @Kent:

    And for that matter, whatever tax increases might go into effect in 2025 were voted on my Republicans not Democrats.

    All Biden has to is send it back and say “fix the part about taxpayers under $400,000.”

    The Democrats will actually have to do something. They just can’t “send it back.”

    Provisions in the law for corporations and the rich were made permanent. But the more modest tax breaks for lower and middle income people are set to expire, unless Congress acts.

  113. 113.

    prostratedragon

    February 19, 2023 at 5:07 pm

    NBA players by height, current season

  114. 114.

    Another Scott

    February 19, 2023 at 5:20 pm

    @prostratedragon: Interesting.

    Made me look some more…

    Muggsy Bogue is 5′ 3″ (last season was 2001).

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  115. 115.

    RSA

    February 19, 2023 at 5:26 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: His character John Munch ties together so many TV universes: Homicide, The Wire, The X-Files… I always liked him as an actor. One report of his death:

    Belzer died early Sunday at his home in Bozouls in southwest France, writer Bill Scheft, a longtime friend of the actor, told The Hollywood Reporter. “He had lots of health issues, and his last words were, ‘Fuck you, motherfucker,’” Scheft said.

  116. 116.

    prostratedragon

    February 19, 2023 at 5:33 pm

    @Another Scott: ​ At your link it says,

    At the end of the last season in which he played, Bogues ranked twelfth all-time in assists and thirteenth all-time in assists per game in NBA history.

    So that’s one way a small player can be useful. On defense, he was pretty good at steals — imagine being 6-7 and trying to keep track of him — and from what I recall, when his lateral movement was good he could herd the handler toward a big guy pretty well, the border collie defense.

  117. 117.

    Brachiator

    February 19, 2023 at 5:43 pm

    @RSA:

    Just finished reading Belzer’s obituary at the Hollywood Reporter. He had quite a  life.

  118. 118.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 19, 2023 at 5:47 pm

    @RSA:

    I saw that final quote as well.

  119. 119.

    dp

    February 19, 2023 at 6:23 pm

    I’m a Pelicans fan, so of course I was pulling for Trey Murphy, but, yeah, McClung deserved that win.

  120. 120.

    dp

    February 19, 2023 at 6:28 pm

    @raven: If you begin watching the NBA regularly, going back to college games is like going from Division 1 to high school.  (I had LSU basketball season tickets for a dozen years, and a son who played in HS, so I know of which I speak!)

  121. 121.

    Yutsano

    February 19, 2023 at 6:28 pm

    Bah. I had a comment then FYWP screwed it up.

  122. 122.

    dp

    February 19, 2023 at 6:33 pm

    @Immanentize: It’s a two-way contract, which means he can rotate between the NBA team and the G-League team.  Jose Alvarado (who participated in Murphy’s slam-dunk opener) started out on a two-way contract last year before graduating to a fully guaranteed deal.  (BTW, Alvarado was both the only player in the Rising Stars tournament who was undrafted and the series MVP!)

  123. 123.

    raven

    February 19, 2023 at 7:06 pm

    @dp: Don’t matter to me. I know plenty of people who say the same thing about college football vs the bigs. They don’t live in Athens, GA!

  124. 124.

    Jackie

    February 19, 2023 at 7:07 pm

    @prostratedragon: That’s cool! Were you able to connect with family members?

  125. 125.

    Professor Bigfoot

    February 19, 2023 at 7:17 pm

    @James E Powell: HUGE Cavs fan here and have been enjoying the hell out of this squad. Last year was such a revelation- nobody expected us to do as well as we did, even if we missed the playoffs.

    Now, can this team get past the first round?

  126. 126.

    prostratedragon

    February 19, 2023 at 8:26 pm

    @Jackie: ​Unfortunately “Chuck” died in the ’80s. We last heard from his sister around 15 years ago and I never ran across her contact in my father’s things; she would be in her upper 90s. Neither of them had children. Still, it felt like a vindication of sorts to see their names. If there is more distant fsmily I’m sure they could find the facts if they wished.

  127. 127.

    Paul in KY

    February 20, 2023 at 10:27 am

    @trollhattan: Alot of it is in the stopping and turning. Schiffren is a amazing athlete. It does take big skirt for her to whip down those terrible hills like she and the rest do.

  128. 128.

    Paul in KY

    February 20, 2023 at 10:36 am

    @kalakal: How about the thing they throw in jai alai?

  129. 129.

    Paul in KY

    February 20, 2023 at 10:39 am

    @cmoren: I’ve seen a few of those falls & they are terrifying to watch.  God bless the poor devils that experience one.

  130. 130.

    Paul in KY

    February 20, 2023 at 10:41 am

    @Tom Levenson: Supposedly the Lamborghini SUV is the one to have, if you can come up with the $350,000.

  131. 131.

    Paul in KY

    February 20, 2023 at 10:41 am

    @eddie blake: Julius is one of my all-time favourite players at UK.

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