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Okay, not really reeducation camps.  This is more like Education than Reeducation, but it seemed like a good title.

I have noticed a big increase in raw HTML in the comments lately instead of links. Which is totally fine if you’re on a phone – it’s better to have a raw link than no link at all. (I still don’t know how to highlight SELECT text ON A PHONE or IPAD; well, in theory I know how, but I seldom try because it doesn’t work for me.)

But I do think it might be helpful if everyone knows that long text strings “break the margins” on phones, and it screws up formatting for everything that comes after it in the thread.

So when you write argh or fuck with a million of each of the 4 letters, it does a great job of conveying your frustration, but it borks the format for the rest of the post for folks on phones.

Also, when you’re adding a raw, naked link like the URL below, all you need is the part that’s bolded in this color.

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This (below) shows you the result.

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I try to clean up after stuff like this, but with more and more raw links being posted, there’s too much to clean up.

So if you have to post a raw URL, please delete everything after the question mark, and delete the “?” also.

Update:  Unless it’s a YouTube link, in which case you do need what comes after the “?”.

Update 2: And a NYT gift link needs everything after the ?

Not scolding, just trying to share information.

Totally open thread.

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    3. 3.

      wmd

      Aren’t there verification codes for gift articles in the portion of a WaPo or NYT raw link?

      I routinely strip the post “?” portion for non paywalled sites, but think there could be issues with a gift link. Suppose you could generate a tinyurl that redirects though. Sounds like something FYWP ought to add.

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    8. 8.

      Bill Arnold

      Another reason to remove the stuff after and including the “?” is that otherwise, you may be leaking personal or doxxing-enabling information. I use a real (though common) name here but many commenters do not. That string past the “?” often also includes an explicit tracker id.

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    11. 11.

      WaterGirl

      @Baud: I updated my comment up top.

      I can’t select the text on the phone or a tablet.

      I used to try once in a blue moon, and I rarely get it to work, so I gave up trying.

      Let’s say that ON A PHONE, I want to select just the words I have bolded here.  I just can’t figure out how to tell it where to start and where to end.

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    15. 15.

      prostratedragon

      I think sometimes, eg youtube the stuff after the ? is essential. But on my phone I use the buttons. In the Text box it’s the one that says “link” and in the Visual box it’s the one that looks like a little chain, after the “. Paste the url where it says “url” and write your description in the other box, which is how I did this on my phone: Horace Silver.

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    16. 16.

      UncleEbeneezer

      I always knew to chop everything after the “?” but didn’t realize I should chop the “?” too.  Thanks for the heads up.

      Reply
    17. 17.

      WaterGirl

      @Baud: okay, I just tried that. Let’s see if my copy will work.

      So when you write argh or fuck with a million of each of the 4 letters,

      wow I did it.

      Reply
    20. 20.

      prostratedragon

      @WaterGirl:  Are you on android? On mine a double tap anywhere in the phrase makes a little highlight box with handles at each end. Dragging the handles fore and aft enlarges the box to cover what you want, and there’s a flag to give a choice of Copy or other actions.

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    21. 21.

      Mr. Bemused Senior

      @Baud:  on my Android phone,  long press,  selects one word,  gives handles to extend the selection. A bit hard to use, but adequate.

      prostratedragon too quick for me I see

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    25. 25.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      A Jan. 6 rioter who threatened Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on social media after participating in the attack on the Capitol was sentenced Wednesday to 38 months in prison.
      Prosecutors had asked for a sentence of 48 months in prison for Garret Miller, an unemployed Texan who, they noted, was wearing a T-shirt bearing former President Donald Trump’s picture and the words “I was there, Washington, D.C., January 6, 2021″ when he was arrested weeks after the attack.
      Miller’s defense lawyer had asked for a sentence of 30 months, which would essentially be time served since he’s been locked up since his late January 2021 arrest.

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    29. 29.

      Origuy

      @WaterGirl: Another trick that isn’t well known is to hold down the Space button until the labels on the keyboard buttons disappear. Then you can move the mouse pointer where you want to start the selection. Tap the selection pointer and choose Select. Then you move the other end of the selection to where you want to end it.

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    33. 33.

      japa21

      Saw the title of the post and had two immediate thoughts. Written by Betty C and about Florida. Obviously wrong on both counts.

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    34. 34.

      Bill Arnold

      @WaterGirl:
      Interesting. That WaPo gift link is using a url shortener, and it resolves to a very long url with a “?” followed by a long gift api token.
      (Which probably could be used with assistance of the WaPo web site sysadmins (or maybe a third party service) to dox the sharer of the link, but that’s probably an acceptable risk for most.)

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    40. 40.

      Steeplejack

      @wmd:​

      Some gift links resolve to a tinyurl, some don’t. I note that if you create a gift link and select the “copy” option, the URL (of whatever form) is placed in your device’s clipboard, which removes the biggest problem that people seem to have in creating links.

      ETA: Off to get a NYTimes gift link. I think those are the long ones.

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    41. 41.

      Leslie

      You do have to leave in the massive url for a NYT gift link to stay gifty. However, using the Visual editor to add a link should avoid the breaking-the-formatting problem.

      Here’s Gary’s link using that method. It doesn’t get around the tracking / identifier problem, though.

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    42. 42.

      Steeplejack

      A gift link to a happy story: “Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump Subpoenaed in Jan. 6 Investigation.”

      https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/22/us/politics/jared-kushner-ivanka-trump-jan-6.html?unlocked_article_code=j2FedGjo8MVqowRX55q-IRzQj5cS-3DLJgXQ0672tvxfMKKdYamSUpcCVWw5uzBtn7WUZedtWxtZ2E3iE0idkQBPmpe1ae7EshCTcN12G8ODFKTr3yRnJmLWQnqgIBbhLV2Jzf_3sJQI_oKOIW4iGwj6fleZWNJq8uYkMQWBlAhYRfSSLRbmEHtmr9MYDBye14NkJHu8kEKF2rRtdkpavt30F9goxr8JPFeE8kzQ9-HDxrv_IqmEIhPkaKRGFmJJDx7jTFFTeD0zg09rZWMu6PdU8omRLaYPRCm5M3nIpmGA2vhXGZSgGZdaruUigZj6bczYtXN5dthYJRDAeZWJqbCJuJDh_u5nfweDAddR&smid=url-share

      Yes, these are the long ones. I believe, though, that they include enough places for the FYWP interpreter to do reasonable line breaks. Let’s see . . .

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    45. 45.

      WaterGirl

      Holy shit, Jared and Ivanka subpoenaed by the Special Counsel???

      The special counsel overseeing the inquiry into Donald Trump’s efforts to retain power after the 2020 election wants the former president’s daughter and son-in-law to testify to a grand jury.

      Ivanka Trump was in the Oval Office with her father as he called Vice President Mike Pence on Jan. 6, 2021.Credit…Pete Marovich for The New York TimesFormer President Donald J. Trump’s daughter Ivanka and his son-in-law Jared Kushner have been subpoenaed by the special counsel to testify before a federal grand jury about Mr. Trump’s efforts to stay in power after he lost the 2020 election and his role in a pro-Trump mob’s attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, according to two people briefed on the matter.

      The decision by the special counsel, Jack Smith, to subpoena Ms. Trump and Mr. Kushner underscores how deeply into Mr. Trump’s inner circle Mr. Smith is reaching, and is the latest sign that no potential high-level witness is off limits.

      The disclosure about the subpoena comes two weeks after it was revealed that Mr. Smith had subpoenaed former Vice President Mike Pence to testify before the grand jury. Mr. Pence plans to fight the subpoena, invoking his role as the president of the Senate to argue that it violates the “speech or debate” clause of the Constitution.

      It is unclear whether Mr. Trump will seek to block Ms. Trump and Mr. Kushner from testifying on the grounds of executive privilege, as he has tried with some other witnesses. Both of them served as White House officials in the Trump administration. Mr. Trump declined to try to stop them from testifying before the House special committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack and what led to it.
      An aide to Ms. Trump and Mr. Kushner did not respond to a request for comment. Josh Stueve, a spokesman for Mr. Smith, declined to comment. Aides to Mr. Trump did not respond to a request for comment.

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    46. 46.

      Steeplejack

      @Gary:

      Based on my post of (I think) the same story below yours, I think you have to do raw NYTimes gift links in text mode, not visual.

      I wonder if that applies to all long links. 🤔

      Reply
    55. 55.

      CarolPW

      If you (temporarily) pie the person who breaks the margins the problem goes away. If you were interested in the link you could click it first and then pie.

      Reply
    57. 57.

      NotMax

      Color me exceedingly stunned.

      Popped over to a satellite office of the Department of Motor Vehicles to renew annual registration and aside from employees was the only person there. In and out in like five minutes.

      Reply
    66. 66.

      Steeplejack

      If people would just not do “hahahahaha” (or whatever) × 50 it would help a lot. Figure about 30 characters max for your visual humor.

      Reply
    69. 69.

      Old School

      @WaterGirl:

      Is anybody up for telling me what Don Lemon said and what the uproar is about?

      Unless he’s done something new, people were upset that he said Nikki Haley, 51, was “past her prime.”

      But I’m not certain why there’s an uproar about that.  I mean, Mrs. School is turning 51 this year and… oh, I see it now.

      Reply
    70. 70.

      Dan B

      DeSantis is making it easy to sue journalists for defamation and he’s limiting groups that use Capitol facilities to those that further the goals of the state.  Orban of the US.

      Reply
    71. 71.

      Trivia Man

      Good news – the Postcards are getting noticed in Wisconsin. A local radio host, Vicki McKenna, is a reliable barometer of the wort of the worst takes from the Wingnut-O-Sphere. She shared today that she keeps her name on mailing lists for Democrats (See what “those people” are up to!) and her rant today was about postcards. She received THREE handwritten (OUTRAGE!) postcards  from people reminding her to vote in the primary for the Supreme Court.

      Thanks everybody! Keep it up! The general is on April 4 and there could not be a more clear difference between the 2 remaining candidates.

      Reply
    72. 72.

      Dan B

      The clouds cleared off the Cascade foothills.  They are pure white.  The lower slopes are covered with huge Douglas Fir and it takes a boatload of snow for them to be pure white.

      Reply
    74. 74.

      scav

      @Baud: We could probably have an entire TBogg thread about favorite ways we broke — or at least highly italicized — the blog.  Forgetting to close tags was epic.  Then the reboots when we tried to break the place under cover of checking for errors . . .

      Reply
    75. 75.

      Baud

      @scav:

      Yeah. And then there was the time I sent ransomware to the hosting company and the blog had to move to an alternative site for several weeks.

      Reply
    76. 76.

      wmd

      I had to go deal with generator for a while (high winds here in the SC mountains took out power for going on 28 hours now)… nice to see the jackaltariat has done the testing to resolve my concerns.

      Well done!

      Reply
    78. 78.

      Old Dan and Little Ann

      I received the public loan forgiveness letter I’ve been waiting forever for today.  I had to go buy champagne.  I checked the Twitter machine for news. It seems this week a lot of people have had a lot of debt forgiven. Last I applied was early October.

      Reply
    87. 87.

      Steeplejack

      @Arclite:

      As I understand it (which is dimly), that is buried in the underlying WordPress functionality and awaits our next major upgrade. WaterGirl would know better.

      Reply
    89. 89.

      Mr. Bemused Senior

      @Steeplejack:  reading the thread worked normally, but a reply to you (on my phone) gave the symptom I described, the “Leave a Comment” box was partly off screen and overly wide.

      Now it’s fixed of course (#36 edited).

      Reply
    90. 90.

      WaterGirl

      @Origuy: Oh.  I don’t need to SELECT any text when I am writing a comment.  I would need to do that before I started my comment.

      Say I’m replying to Baud and I want to quote something I am replying to.

      Reply
    96. 96.

      WaterGirl

      @RaflW: I think someone at the DOJ or somewhere should be going after McCarthy for doing that.

      edit: hey a new record for me!  The last 7 comments, talking to myself.  That’s what I get for doing work for a client for the past 45 minutes or so, and then coming back to the thread.

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    98. 98.

      Steeplejack

      @Mr. Bemused Senior:
      Okay, clear now. The comment box has “Post Comment,” not “Reply.” Hence my confusion.​

      ETA: The comment box being extremely wide and very hard to use is the main symptom of the “broken margin” problem.

      Reply

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