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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / Late Night Open Thread: Fox News Does *Not* Approve of Promoting Democracy

Late Night Open Thread: Fox News Does *Not* Approve of Promoting Democracy

by Anne Laurie|  February 23, 20231:49 am| 65 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Our Failed Media Experiment, President Biden, Proud to Be A Democrat

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Plaudits from a former colleague:

Riding on a train to the front lines of the fight for democracy? Peak Biden. #RailForceOne pic.twitter.com/rhN0qhAygq

— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) February 21, 2023

Meanwhile, Faux News correspondent is required to fake outrage. A campaign rally for democracy, indeed!

Peter Doocy characterizes Biden's Warsaw speech as "not the solemn set of remarks that we were kind of told to expect based on the existential threats that [Biden] sees. It has almost a campaign rally feel, like if they were having a campaign rally for democracy." pic.twitter.com/dM8coQjFCW

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 21, 2023


7 hours to Poland, 10 hours by train to Kyiv, another 10 hours on way back to Warsaw that was greeted by 30k people.
Your MAGA Savior can't even go out from the bunker or have his toupee wet in the rain. https://t.co/APnZ7QA1kz

— KAMALA NATION (@KamalaNation) February 22, 2023

Biden: "President Putin's craven lust for land and power will fail, and the Ukrainian people's love for their country will prevail. Democracies of the world will stand guard of our freedoms today, tomorrow, and forever. That's what's at stake here — freedom." pic.twitter.com/kzsBUBGNAA

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) February 21, 2023

If we hadn’t been exposed to so much Ted Cruz already, some might suspect this Cruz fella was a mole inside the GOP…

The fact that this comes just as Biden finishes up a massively important foreign policy trip and Trump flew out to East Palestine just to give a purely political speech is just <chef’s kiss> https://t.co/ywV5cKw5RU

— Panda Bernstein (@J4Years) February 22, 2023

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  1. 1.

    cain

    February 23, 2023 at 2:04 am

    The comments on Ted’s twitter feed is ::chefs kiss::  The fucker who left during a snow storm to vacation elsewhere while his constituents suffer – that guy is going to lecture Biden about not going to East Palestine? Spare me the outrage, Ted.

  2. 2.

    cain

    February 23, 2023 at 2:05 am

    lol – Doocy trying hard to spin it however he can. That’s one lose-y doocy.

  3. 3.

    Chief Oshkosh

    February 23, 2023 at 2:22 am

    Sec. Clinton makes a great point and writes it well.

  4. 4.

    Redshift

    February 23, 2023 at 2:24 am

    If we had a lawsuit to get the Fox-heads’ internal communications now, I bet it would be all “this is such weak-ass shit, do I really have to say it?”

  5. 5.

    Tony Jay

    February 23, 2023 at 2:35 am

    A campaign rally for democracy

    When your only stated alternative is a wake, then yeah, Uncle Joe brought the celebration instead. Turns out the people being bombed by your Party’s number one foreign ally preferred it.

    Fox is supposed to be messaging for the Republicans, right?

  6. 6.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 23, 2023 at 2:49 am

    There’s something about a snow day.

  7. 7.

    mrmoshpotato

    February 23, 2023 at 2:52 am

    “not the solemn set of remarks that we were kind of told to expect based on the existential threats that [Biden] sees. It has almost a campaign rally feel, like if they were having a campaign rally for democracy.”

    What arghlebargle* garbage is this?

    *Willing to entertain different spellings of most of Megan’s name

  8. 8.

    smike

    February 23, 2023 at 2:59 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    I’m so old I remember when repugs were for democracy.

  9. 9.

    mrmoshpotato

    February 23, 2023 at 3:03 am

    7 hours to Poland, 10 hours by train to Kyiv, another 10 hours on way back to Warsaw that was greeted by 30k people. Your MAGA Savior can’t even go out from the bunker or have his toupee wet in the rain.

    I believe the national reserve of shade has been used up temporarily.

  10. 10.

    Amir Khalid

    February 23, 2023 at 3:03 am

    And what’s wrong with a campaign rally for democracy? What makes it seem partisan to Doocy? Did he see Kyivans carrying BIDEN/HARRIS 2024 signs?

  11. 11.

    mrmoshpotato

    February 23, 2023 at 3:04 am

    @smike: Even that bastard Reagan didn’t suck fascist ass like Fox News.

  12. 12.

    piratedan

    February 23, 2023 at 3:06 am

    c’mon, its Young Master Pete representing Unka Rupe, as far as Faux is concerned, every day that Biden doesn’t resign solemnly and cede the Presidency to Trump is a day that doesn’t meet their “expectations”, after all, they have all THAT evidence that proves otherwise, with that thing and that video and those testimonials from patriotic Americans and everything.

    I do adore the fact that Ted is noting that SOME Capitol Police did indeed move barriers to allow rioters easier access to the Capitol, what Ted never seems to acknowledge is that this IS a problem, not a feature and it’s not as if those folks behaved themselves as tourists upon reaching the doors, but hey its not as if we ever expect Ted to include any context.

  13. 13.

    West of the Rockies

    February 23, 2023 at 3:20 am

    Remember when Cruz was actually regarded as up-and-coming and having some chance of becoming the Repube nominee for prez?  A-hole shivved himself by cowering before Trump.

  14. 14.

    SectionH

    February 23, 2023 at 3:23 am

    @mrmoshpotato: TY, yep.

    eta: Yeah, your Reagan comment too.

  15. 15.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 23, 2023 at 3:40 am

    Sally Jenkins.

    Sally Jenkins is a writer.

    Really good writer.

    “Golf, but louder” is one of LIV’s slogans, but all that apparently refers to is Ian Poulter’s pants by Pixar. Poulter is at least a likable star, more audience-friendly than laconic burnout cases such as Brooks Koepka or that aging inveterate scrounger Mickelson, who apparently would take checks from the slaughter of dolphins to get whole.”

  16. 16.

    Aussie Sheila

    February 23, 2023 at 3:40 am

    Well I’m no US Campaign consultant, but I’d put a rally for democracy as a campaign theme before a rally to trash the Congress and bashing Capital police, but you do you Doocy. They are effed if they think that Biden’s trip won’t be, rightly, part of his re-election campaign.
    What are they going to say?
    He shouldn’t have gone?
    Who cares about democracy?
    Good luck with that in a general election.

    They are such tools, and stupid ones at that.

  17. 17.

    Irishweaver

    February 23, 2023 at 4:28 am

    @Amir Khalid: on Morning Joe yesterday (Wednesday), the reporter from Kyviv made the same “ campaign” observation.  It seemed to be designed to diminish the events.

  18. 18.

    Baud

    February 23, 2023 at 4:52 am

    I ♥️ Hillary.  She’s such a team player.  I’d be a black hole of resentment if I were her.

  19. 19.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    February 23, 2023 at 5:00 am

    Side note: my parents, retired here in Greece, used to like to watch the NewsHour to keep up with the world, back when they were in the US and they could watch it at six o’clock in the evening. Now, however, there’s the slight issue that although they can get rebroadcasts on YouTube on their TV, it’s yesterday’s news (given that 6pm on the East Coast is 1am in Athens). They’ve started watching Morning Joe in the evenings, because it’s a little more up-to-date, but they’re not really all that thrilled with it.

    Can the jackaltariat recommend a US morning news program that’s (a) better than Morning Joe and (b) available to stream in Europe on something like YouTube?

  20. 20.

    Amir Khalid

    February 23, 2023 at 5:29 am

    @Bruce K in ATH-GR:

    I understand your parents’ annoyance with Morning Joe. It really annoys me that he and Mika Brzezinski make a habit of talking over their guests.

  21. 21.

    Van Buren

    February 23, 2023 at 5:30 am

    When my FOX addicted mom was repeating the critism of Biden not going to Ohio, I said, “You know if he went, they’d all be complaining about his presence diverting resources from the cleanup operation, right?”. She had nothing to say.

  22. 22.

    Baud

    February 23, 2023 at 5:34 am

    @Van Buren:

    Good.

  23. 23.

    Irishweaver

    February 23, 2023 at 6:03 am

    @Van Buren: exactly. It is criticism no matter what!

  24. 24.

    Geminid

    February 23, 2023 at 6:10 am

    @Van Buren: The problem I have with a prospective visit to E. Palestine by the President is that it would affirm the exaggerated importance this event has been given by administration’s opponents.

    It was a serious incident for sure, but it was not “another Chernobyl,” and the water supply for the entire Ohio River basin was not put at risk, as bad faith critics have persuaded their more credulous auditors. I think visits by EPA Secretary Regan and by DOT Secretary Buttegieg today give this problem the attention it merits.

    The train wreck was a big sensation on the internet, hyped by administration critics left and right. The story spread far and wide; I even ran into it on the Twitter account of an Iranian defense analyst. He interrupted his discussion of the F-35 fighter’s stealth prowess versus Iran’s low-band radar capability to retweet a provocative story about the train wreck.

    The story’s author happened to be a leading US anti-vaxxer, better known for his “documentary” about the sudden deaths of vaccine recipients.

  25. 25.

    geg6

    February 23, 2023 at 6:15 am

    Well, just had an interesting story on the local CBS station regarding Cheetolini’s visit to East Palestine.  The clip of the speech was only about 10 seconds of him criticizing and blaming Biden.  Then they fact checked with how it was his administration that ended two Obama era safety rules for trains that he ended.  Basically, they were saying that if anyone is to blame, it’s Cheetolini.

  26. 26.

    Honus

    February 23, 2023 at 6:21 am

    @geg6: but you miss the point.  Biden should have corrected TFG’s gutting of rail safety by now.  It’s not like he had anything else to do.

    Also, they keep saying “campaign rally for democracy” like that’s a bad thing.

  27. 27.

    geg6

    February 23, 2023 at 6:23 am

    @Honus:

    Well, it certainly wasn’t framed that way.  Which is why it made me sit up and pay attention.

  28. 28.

    Baud

    February 23, 2023 at 6:25 am

    @Geminid:

    The train wreck was a big sensation on the internet

     
    The commentary on the train wreck has been a train wreck.

  29. 29.

    Anne Laurie

    February 23, 2023 at 6:43 am

    @Geminid: It was a serious incident for sure, but it was not “another Chernobyl,” and the water supply for the entire Ohio River basin was not put at risk, as bad faith critics have persuaded their more credulous auditors. I think visits by EPA Secretary Regan and by DOT Secretary Buttegieg today give this problem the attention it merits.

    Truth.  I hate to be that person, but ‘industrial accident in Ohio‘ is a little like ‘subway incident in NYC’ — if the latest one isn’t messy enough for the media, there will be another one along shortly.

    And I say this as someone who bought, and lives in, a house located on *two* listed Superfund sites.  As a civil engineer of our acquaintance told us, what that means is we have a list of the chemicals contaminating our ground water… and a clause in our FEMA mortgage that we’re not allowed to dig a well.  (Our tap water, which is certified pure is drawn from a reservoir in the next town over.)

  30. 30.

    Biff Baxter

    February 23, 2023 at 6:44 am

    @Amir Khalid: I don’t know what Mika’s purpose on the show is other than to be the Helen Lovejoy of morning cable TV.

    “Won’t someone think of the children”

  31. 31.

    Betty Cracker

    February 23, 2023 at 6:50 am

    @HumboldtBlue: LOL! Respect to Sally!

    @geg6: Was just scanning the headlines and found them surprisingly accurate. Not just one outlet — several in the Memeorandum roundup of coverage:

    Donald Trump, who rolled back rail safety regulations and slashed environmental protections, donates Trump-branded water to East Palestine residents

    Trump, Who Deregulated the Railroad Industry, Lies to the People of Ohio in His Visit

    Trump’s environmental rollbacks in focus on visit to Ohio toxic train site

    White House blames Trump administration and Republicans over East Palestine, Ohio spill

  32. 32.

    Betty Cracker

    February 23, 2023 at 6:56 am

    Woke up yesterday with an awful cold. I worried that covid had finally caught up with me after I’d dodged the virus for nearly three years, but so far, I’ve tested negative. So I think it’s just a regular old crappy cold. Do I need to test again? I think with all the symptoms (hacking, sneezing, achiness, etc.) the test would have caught it if it were covid, but I do have extra tests.

  33. 33.

    Amir Khalid

    February 23, 2023 at 7:03 am

    @Biff Baxter:

    Are she and Joe still a thing? If so, that might be why she’s still there.

  34. 34.

    Baud

    February 23, 2023 at 7:04 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Good. Maybe the GOP won’t get a pass on the debt ceiling.

  35. 35.

    brantl

    February 23, 2023 at 7:07 am

    @Redshift:  They’re one-trick ponies for weak-assshit!

  36. 36.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    February 23, 2023 at 7:09 am

    @Betty Cracker: I have the same thing.  Called my Doc and she said she got 15 other calls asking for meds.  She didn’t want to give me antibiotics but prescribed cough suppressant which made a big difference.  That plus Benadryl for the sinus and Tylenol for the fatigue.

  37. 37.

    Betty Cracker

    February 23, 2023 at 7:25 am

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Ugh! Feel better!

  38. 38.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    February 23, 2023 at 7:26 am

    Our power went off around 6:00 last night and just came back on. Apparently a big swathe of the area was out.

  39. 39.

    Jay

    February 23, 2023 at 7:39 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    test again after 3 days. It was noted that the home tests were often missing Covid during the first few days of symptoms, and quite often missing Covid entirely for the aysymptomatic.

  40. 40.

    satby

    February 23, 2023 at 7:49 am

    @Betty Cracker: I hope they got new water bottles relabeled, because the Trump Ice bottled water was discontinued in 2010. Though wikipedia says he still has Mountain Ice water relabeled for his properties, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was “donating” old stock. He’s that kind of a guy.

  41. 41.

    Betty Cracker

    February 23, 2023 at 7:56 am

    @Jay: Good to know — thank you!

  42. 42.

    satby

    February 23, 2023 at 7:57 am

    @Betty Cracker: @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: you can test again to be sure, but don’t assume “just a cold” will be benign. That’s what started the cascade of illness that took six weeks for me to recover from: cold > acute bronchitis > acute asthma flare up. Ironically, I almost never get sick when everyone else is catching the bug du jour. So that’ll teach me.

  43. 43.

    satby

    February 23, 2023 at 7:59 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: IL and MI had large outages, assumed MN too by the weather reports. Glad yours is back on.

  44. 44.

    Geminid

    February 23, 2023 at 8:05 am

    @satby: I figure he’ll take a charitable deduction on the water, at an inflated value.

    He can’t inflate the value of the McDonald’s food though. Now I wish a reporter had shouted questions at him at the McDonald’s:

    “Mr. Trump! How would you rate these burgers for aerodynamics? What about adhesion?”

  45. 45.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    February 23, 2023 at 8:09 am

    @satby: It’s amazing how hard it is to get news of the outage if your power is out and your phone is low on charge

  46. 46.

    SFAW

    February 23, 2023 at 8:30 am

    @Honus: ​
     

    Biden should have corrected TFG’s gutting of rail safety by now. It’s not like he had anything else to do.

    Well, as the saying goes, he’s “worse than [GWB/Trump], he sold us out!”

  47. 47.

    SFAW

    February 23, 2023 at 8:35 am

    Because I don’t want to damage my few remaining, functioning brain cells, I decided not to listen to Douchey. It seems like I made the right choice.

  48. 48.

    SFAW

    February 23, 2023 at 8:36 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: ​
     

    It’s amazing how hard it is to get news of the outage if your power is out and your phone is low on charge

    Always with the excuses.

  49. 49.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    February 23, 2023 at 8:41 am

    @SFAW: If the power hadn’t come back this morning, I might have gone out looking for a newspaper.

    I just got email from the library, which is next door to us. Their power is still out. Because my building houses some vulnerable people, we’re a priority for power restore. But then, libraries are high on the restore list too

  50. 50.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    February 23, 2023 at 8:50 am

    Also, this building has two restaurants in it. We often carry out dinner from one or the other. I can’t imagine what it would have been like in there at 6pm when the power went off

  51. 51.

    SFAW

    February 23, 2023 at 8:51 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    But then, libraries are high on the restore list too

    So you’re not in Florida or Texas, I guess?

    Anyway, glad you have power restored. I’m hoping I don’t have to get our backup generator fired up, but they’re not predicting super-bad conditions here in Central MA.

  52. 52.

    cmorenc

    February 23, 2023 at 9:01 am

    The snide way Doocey says the word “democracy” near the end of the clip is an indication of Fox’s contempt for democracy – characterizing the speech as a “campaign rally for…” is more an indication of Fox’s contempt for Biden.

  53. 53.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    February 23, 2023 at 9:02 am

    @SFAW: Here in Chicagoland we think libraries are good!

  54. 54.

    Paul in KY

    February 23, 2023 at 9:20 am

    @Betty Cracker: Do the blood oxygen monitor thing. If below 95%, you may have The Rona.

  55. 55.

    Paul in KY

    February 23, 2023 at 9:20 am

    @satby: I would expect that’s what he’s doing. The bastard!

  56. 56.

    Denali5

    February 23, 2023 at 9:30 am

    I just can’t believe TFG chose to go to East Palestine after he overturned the Obama’s safety regulations on trains. Are people that unaware?

  57. 57.

    Matt McIrvin

    February 23, 2023 at 9:41 am

    They’re thinking this is Biden’s Katrina, like all the Obama’s Katrinas before it. It doesn’t matter what the history is.

  58. 58.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    February 23, 2023 at 9:46 am

    @Matt McIrvin: No matter what it is, the highest ranking Democrat involved is doing it wrong, we’ll figure out why later.

  59. 59.

    UncleEbeneezer

    February 23, 2023 at 10:16 am

    @Betty Cracker: See?  This proves masks did nothing! /sarcasm

    Ugh, sorry to hear that.  I felt really run down on Monday and tested for Covid (negative) just to be safe.  Fortunately, I felt better the next day.  Get well soon.

  60. 60.

    espierce

    February 23, 2023 at 10:23 am

    @HumboldtBlue: She’s been laying the wood on them since their inception. She also has no time at all for Greg Norman [spit].

  61. 61.

    evodevo

    February 23, 2023 at 10:36 am

    @Betty Cracker: If it’s the same as the one I caught just after Xmas, you have 3-4 weeks of feeling crappy and snotty to look forward to…my neighbor’s father has it too, and tested neg for everything.  Just an old-fashioned bad cold going around, I guess. And we can’t even blame the grandkids or flying on an airline, ’cause we didn’t go anywhere except the grocery and didn’t have any visitors.

  62. 62.

    gvg

    February 23, 2023 at 11:29 am

    @Betty Cracker: It’s pollen season in north Florida. For me it’s normal to get some cold like symptoms at this time of year. It was an issue all through hi COVID.  Everyone mentioned it, how would we tell?  Allergies are the norm here.

  63. 63.

    Steeplejack

    February 23, 2023 at 11:38 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Joe and Mika are married, so I’d say, yeah, they’re still a thing.

  64. 64.

    WaterGirl

    February 23, 2023 at 12:07 pm

    Doocy: “How dare the President of the United States make a speech about democracy!”

    Every thinking person in response tp Doocy:  WTF?

  65. 65.

    Kristine

    February 23, 2023 at 12:10 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: One friend up here near the border had their power go out. It was a small cluster of homes and they were supposed to get it repaired within a couple of hours.

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