Save some for the rest of us, E. Jean. https://t.co/vPbRx3flJr
— Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) March 10, 2023
Will the Access Hollywood tape finally bring some consequences to the “grab ’em by the pussy” and “if you’re famous you can do anything” guy?
Oh, and T**** gets an invitation to appear before the Manhattan grand jury next week. I hope that makes up for the humiliation of all the Fox News “Entertainers” aka Fox Bloviators” saying they think he’s full of shit and they always have.
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee, Donald…and the tolling has begun. https://t.co/0XR8L2RNqV
— Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) March 9, 2023
From the NYT link:
The Manhattan district attorney’s office recently signaled to Donald J. Trump’s lawyers that he could face criminal charges for his role in the payment of hush money to a porn star, the strongest indication yet that prosecutors are nearing an indictment of the former president, according to four people with knowledge of the matter.
The prosecutors offered Mr. Trump the chance to testify next week before the grand jury that has been hearing evidence in the potential case, the people said. Such offers almost always indicate an indictment is close; it would be unusual for the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, to notify a potential defendant without ultimately seeking charges against him.
In New York, potential defendants have the right to answer questions in the grand jury before they are indicted, but they rarely testify, and Mr. Trump is likely to decline the offer. His lawyers could also meet privately with the prosecutors in hopes of fending off criminal charges.
All the best, Donald, really.
Totally open thread.
Nunc Pro Tunc
FRIST!
Did I do that correctly?
(I am aware of all Internet traditions.)
trollhattan
“Just because I said a thing, something I’m proud of, doesn’t mean I said that thing.”
trollhattan
We are on flood watch through at least next Wednesday, when the river is predicted to hit 29+feet. Most of the year it’s about 8 feet.
Whee!
Ceci n est pas mon nym
I can’t remember how this conversation with my wife got started (when you’re married a long time, conversations take very strange twists and nobody even bats an eyelid). But we got talking about late night comedy shows and still in 2023, no woman has ever been a host of one.
Wanda Sykes, Leslie Jones and Sarah Silverman have all auditioned for the Daily Show slot, so I guess that’s (a very tiny token) something. I think Samantha Bee wanted it when Jon Stewart left, but nobody offered? I also think I remember that at one point Joan Rivers was in the running to succeed Johnny Carson on The Tonight Show, but something squelched that deal?
(At that point, the conversation went down a Joan Rivers rabbit hole)
frosty
@trollhattan: Which river?
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Tick tock tick tick click
Ringadingding, motherfucker.
cain
@Nunc Pro Tunc: sorry, but @trollhattan: wins the internets with his #2 post..
Alison Rose
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: I saw some clips of Leslie Jones on TDS and she was fucking hilarious. What I prefer about her over someone like Sarah Silverman or Amy Schumer is that Jones doesn’t seem to think “to be a funny woman I have to make gross jokes men would make so they think I’m cool” or whatever. Also, I just think she’s way funnier. Silverman can be at times, but not always, and I’ve personally never considered Schumer to be funny. Wanda Sykes is terrific in stand-up, but not sure her comedy style is suited to show hosting.
cain
At this point, Trump is just one in a large mix of grifters, haters, and thieves that also need to be called into account.
The GOP descent into fascism with the help of the SCOTUS and Fox News. The funny part though is they are only doing it because of this negative feedback loop of having to be more and more extreme to get their voters approval and more importantly their money. They are also putting in policies that forces to do more of that in order for their voters to ignore the consequences of the laws.
Minority is the odd majority in our system. A pox on the whole thing.
Old School
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
I believe Joan Rivers was the guest host when Johnny had off, but then took a late night gig on Fox so she was then a competitor to The Tonight Show.
WaterGirl
@trollhattan: Holy crap!
Scout211
Speaking of Republicans who talk tough but when it comes time to walk the walk, they are cowards and refuse to be questioned under oath. Trump is trying to block Pence’s testimony to the grand jury. Now Pence himself is asking the judge to block his subpoena under the “speech and debate” clause.
Yes Mike, let’s talk about the speech or the debate you had in the run-up to and during the f*cking insurrection. It must be protected by the constitution. Really?
These cowards talk big but really cannot walk the walk.
Dangerman
@trollhattan: I’m in San Bernardino dealing with Family stuff. I volunteered to go up into the mountains to help but no calls; I learned why last night as a Fire Crew from Five Cities (that is Central Coast; sorry) was in the store I was in. They will be here for the next week. Weird that I met them a couple hundred miles plus away from home.
Meanwhile, the Central Coast is getting it’s ass kicked. At least Monterey from what I hear.
trollhattan
@frosty: Sacramento River, through downtown Sac.
There’s also the American River that joins the Sacramento just north of downtown, doubling our fun!
Alison Rose
@Dangerman: I have a few friends in the Santa Cruz mountains and yeah…they’re getting hit hard.
Benw
Well, it is very cold in SPACE
Burnspbesq
Hard to imagine what Trump or his counsel might say that could head off indictment. As the article suggests, he’ll probably
politely declineblow off the invite.Which leads, more or less inevitably, to the next question: does DeSantis extradite him or not?
Kosh III
Lock him up!
Anonymous At Work
Revenge isn’t best served cold. It is best served as often as possible, hot or cold.
Matt McIrvin
@Benw: I’ll chase him ’round the moons of Nibia and ’round the Antares Maelstrom and round perdition’s flames before I give him up!
Betty Cracker
@trollhattan: Stay safe! We’ve been through a couple of potential river flooding situations, and I know how unnerving it can be. (At least you won’t have to worry about gators getting in the house.)
RedDirtGirl
@trollhattan: Yikes! Stay safe!
Scout211
@trollhattan:
Did you see the latest predictions for the rest of the year for California?
La Niña is ending and El Niño is coming.
kalakal
@trollhattan: Good lord! What river is that .
ETA ah you’ve already answered
JoyceH
@Anonymous At Work:
Kind of a tangent here, but you know, one of the things that has baffled me most about Trump gaining and keeping such a rabid following is – he’s such a LOUSY public speaker! For instance, an over-the-top line like “I am your retribution” needs to be thundered! Not droned in a whiny sing-song.
MobiusKlein
@Dangerman: Was just camping in Pinnacles, left Thursday before it was supposed to get completely nasty. Beautiful parks, flowers just starting. But tent camping in a deluge is foolish.
Skepticat
I agree, yet I shall be profoundly shocked (but very happy) if Chump ever suffers even
the most mild of consequences. It doesn’t seem justice is being served at all.
trollhattan
@Scout211: Jeez, any other year that would be welcome news.
A fun page re. the snowpack. 86 inches in the last 7 days? Nuttyballs. (For orientation, Donner Pass is off I-80, between the Valley and Lk Tahoe. They once held a Party there, if you get my drift–hey, two puns in one.)
L&DinSLT
@trollhattan: Are you talking about the consumes at Michigan Bar? Just saw Mark Finan clip. Not a surprise. You’d think they could divert it to underground storage that’s been so depleted through this drought.
Delk
Anti-LGBT Lt Gov of Tennesseebusted liking instagram pics of gay twink. He gets redder and sweatier as it goes on.
piratedan
@trollhattan: have been reading that California has gone from 65-80% of the state in a severe drought to now less than 40% in moderate drought conditions….
now, if we can get some of this into the Colorado River basin, that would be actually beneficial as hell….
Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Never could stand Rivers. Hate her act, her voice, her face, her style show.
I have a huge Silverman crush, and will watch her do anything anytime, anywhere.
Schumer bores me, and I never watched enough Samantha Bee to have an opinion.
Wanda Sykes is meh, and I think Jones is funny.
trollhattan
@L&DinSLT: That floods pretty commonly–the Cosumnes is a rare un-dammed California river. It can also flood at Highway 99–I’ll be surprised if that doesn’t happen this weekend.
Benw
@Matt McIrvin: hahaha!
TaMara
@Alison Rose: She was funnier than anyone I’ve seen in that role. And I watched every episode, which I didn’t with the rest. I mean, I spent the Olympics watching her watch the events and commenting on them, so it’s a pretty safe bet I’d probably watch her read the phone book and she’d make it funny, too
Ceci n est pas mon nym
You’re right. I’d forgotten, but that was the source of Carson breaking off any friendship or professional relationship with her.
So there goes my thesis of “no woman has ever hosted a late night show”.
Still, it’s a way too male-dominated landscape.
@Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: For me, I loved Silverman and Sykes at the Daily Show desk but found Jones grating. Not even sure why, as I have always loved her on SNL.
It’s obvious Opinions May Differ on the female comics. I’d frankly be happy if any one of them ended up taking over TDS.
Anonymous At Work
@JoyceH: So, weirder tangent is that Trump’s speaking style is a valid one for audiences like his. He introduces a topic, paints broad strokes about the situation using code words (dog whistles!), and then leaves blanks that the listener fills in themselves. By avoiding specifics, the listeners import their personal preferences instead. It also insulates against pushback because there are no specifics to pushback against.
When used by a Fox “News” and Twitter addict like Trump AND his rally audience, it’s crystal-clear. To others, they need a translator, either Fox “News” leading them down a rabbit-hole or MSM media type filtering and cleaning the ugly dog whistles away.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Oh, lord, that was some huge drama back in… 1980 or so? She was Carson’s protegee, number one guest host, assumed successor. She signed a deal with a fledgling Fox network and he never spoke to her again. I think back then Jay Leno was best known as a frequent guest on that Letterman show the college kids liked.
@Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: I love Wanda Sykes. When Samantha Bee is good, she’s great. I don’t think she had good writing partners on TDS
itswhatson
Thotsnprayers.
zhena gogolia
I just watched Aaron Rupar’s thread on those hearings with Taibbi. What a smarmy creep Taibbi is.
Alison Rose
@TaMara:
Agree. Her delivery is hilarious. She manages to be goofy without making it annoying, which is hard to do!
geg6
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Chelsea Handler, too. I caught her on one of her nights. I love her.
JoyceH
@Anonymous At Work:
I’m not talking about WHAT he says, which obviously appeals to a certain segment of the population, but HOW he says it. His voice and his line delivery. It’s a drone, it’s a sing-song. It’s SO unattractive, grating really.
WaterGirl
@Scout211: So the choices are drought or flooding?
Has mother nature not heard the adage about all thing in moderation, and moderation in all things?
WaterGirl
@Delk: That was a bit cryptic, I’m not sure what you’re saying there?
West of the Rockies
@JoyceH:
He should take public speaking lessons from Dwight Schrute.
JoyceH
BTW, have you guys seen the latest on George Santos, the allegation that he ran a credit card skimming operation in Seattle?
Delk
@WaterGirl: the lt gov made a bunch of ‘likes’ and flirty comments on a young gay male hustler’s instagram pics. The video is of him trying to explain.
WaterGirl
@JoyceH: I had not heard of that until your comment.
trollhattan
@TaMara: Her Olympics Twitter made the Olympics twice as fun.
The ability to riff like that in real time is rare.
Quantum man
I will believe TFG is indicted when I see it. I have seen many stories about it coming, but it has not happened.
gene108
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
Chelsea Handler had a late night show on E! for several years, but it got canceled awhile back or she no longer wanted to continue.
It was a good show, but outside of that show, I can’t think of a woman with their own late night show in the last 10 years.
trollhattan
@JoyceH: Seattle? What is he, Crime Zelig?
JoyceH
@WaterGirl:
CNN has an article about Santos denying it, but the fellow who makes the claim got charged with it and deported, and now claims that Santos trained him on how to skim cards and ran the operation. Apparently FBI is investigating.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/10/politics/george-santos-credit-card-skimming-atm-fraud/index.html
Roger Moore
@WaterGirl:
More or less. California has a bimodal distribution of precipitation. There are drought years and there are flood years, but there are very few years where we receive anything like the average. It’s almost always way above or way below the average.
Betty Cracker
Trump’s response on his tumbleweed-choked Twitter knock-off is basically one long, paranoid, incoherent run-on sentence:
trollhattan
@gene108: Was that the show where her dog Chunk would just wander through the set while she was on the air? “Chelsea Lately,” I think. She’s a talent, and no filters.
Origuy
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Samantha Bee had a show on TBS called Full Frontal from 2016-2022. It was a political/comedy show. It was on at night, but I don’t know if it was on late because I always watched it later.
trollhattan
@Betty Cracker: Can I point out to Donny one neither capitalizes nor hyphenates witch hunt?
Thanks, I feel better.
What a fuckin’ man-baby. Soft, soft, soft.
ETA, math, also, too. “Hundreds of millions of the American People.” Motherfucker got 74 million votes.
Alison Rose
@Betty Cracker: All these good people dying and yet…
Renie
@JoyceH: The hits keep on coming with George. Did you see he wants to run again in 2024. That should be interesting.
WaterGirl
@Delk: Somehow I missed the word “busted” and the link when I first read your comment.
Like Lindsey Graham, it’s really nobody’s business – except that that they are fucking hypocrites and are discriminating and “othering” people who are likely very much like them.
So throw ’em to the wolves for the hypocrisy, but asking if you had sex with person x is nobody’s fucking business.
schrodingers_cat
I am in a quandary. What should I buy
A)Pricey artist grade watercolor crayons ( Retail price is 7 to 8 times the price of B)
B) Toddler grade gel crayons
C) Both
What would you do
The full set of A = number of crayons in B + 35
The full set of A is on auction on ebay right now and the price is about 3*A
To bid or not to bid that is the question. I am tempted.
Betty Cracker
@trollhattan: Right? And also, that sloshing fake-bronze bag of liposuction clinic medical waste has the nerve to make fun of someone else’s appearance? If lack of self awareness were gravity, Trump would be the black hole that swallowed the entire fucking universe.
Paul in KY
@Delk: That kid (who seems like a very sweet soul) would make Paul Lynde seem like Genghis Khan.
Paul in KY
@JoyceH: He also founded Seattle…
Kay
@zhena gogolia:
He became a War on Woke Warrior when his gross misogynist essays came to light in 2017.
Hell hath no fury like a middle aged media celebrity who can’t adjust to changing norms. They’re brittle, rigidly conventional people and thet get worse as they get older.
Spanky
@Betty Cracker: Well, now I know who depleted our nation’s strategic reserve of commas.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Renie: Guess he can’t use his old campaign bio at this point. But he could always plagiarize somebody else’s. Like maybe Abe Lincoln, he isn’t using it right now.
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: @Kay: He was always creepy and awful. He was forgiven for those sins when he wrote his innumerate rants against Goldman etc., because he was saying stuff that many on the left agreed with.
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodingers_cat:
YOLO. Go for it!
Betty Cracker
@Spanky: Yep, and there’s a sub shop south of Tampa that hoards all the apostrophes (or, as they’d write it, “apostrophe’s”). We may have to nationalize these assets to keep the language alive at some point, so it’s good to know where the punctuation marks are located.
kalakal
The Assistant Urineanalyst wants to expand his fascist militia and is asking Fl taxpayers to pony up $100 million so we can have our very own SA
DeSantis & the Brown Shirts
citizen dave
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Happened to see a recent clip of Paul Shaffer leading his old Late Night (NBC) band on the Fallon show. He said it was 41 years ago that week that late night Letterman began (after the failed morning show that I watched in the summer off from college). Yes, Leno was the best-loved and funniest guest in those Letterman years. I saw Leno on Letterman, May 4, 1989, Chicago Theater. He threw out Mr. Beef sandwiches into the audience (Mr. Beef founder just died). Other guests were Michael Jordan and Lou Reed; Chris Elliott. Was a pretty good show.
But I really came here to note the two most awesome late night shows, the Chevy Chase and Magic Johnson shows. The Magic Hour: https://tinyurl.com/mtjzfee2
Betty Cracker
@Kay: Russell Brand has morphed into a bitter crank too. I was never a big fan, but he wrote a touching essay about his friend Amy Winehouse when she died.
Kay
@schrodingers_cat:
I never bought it. It’s amusing to watch though, how he genuinely seems to believe he is saving liberal democracy by analyzing the Twitter information Elon Musk fed him. They have their own little echo chamber of subscribers and “friendlies”, the antiwokes, and they’ve engineered careers where they are surrounded by people who stroke them and tell them how brave and wonderful they are.
WaterGirl
@Betty Cracker: Are you referring to the sign you put up in a post years ago? That was hysterical. I wonder if you might have named it something that would allow us to find the image again.
That was just too funny. As I recall, they used a lot of apostrophes that shouldn’t have been there and then left off one that belonged there. But I have slept a lot of nights since then, so it’s possible that I am remembering wrong.
schrodingers_cat
@Kay: Neither did I. Fist bump, internet bestie.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Samantha Bee had a show on TBS, but she would be great as TDS host IMO. I think Wanda Sykes is hilarious in standup and pretty damn funny as a comedic actress. I think Leslie Jones is hilarious too and could see her being great on TDS.
Joan Rivers, for a brief period in the ’80s, had a late night talk show. Other than Full Frontal with Samantha Bee that is the only female hosted late night show I’m aware of and the ONLY one I’m aware of that ran on an actual broadcast network rather than cable channel.
Kay
@Betty Cracker:
I watched a clip of him and some Righty on Rumble, which is their “safe space” for their little echo chamber. The idea was they would respectfully discuss their opposite ideological positions but Brand isn’t very bright and is a lousy advocate so he ended up agreeing with everything the Righty said.
I knew they’d get rolled. I don’t even want them on my side. They’re not good enough and they don’t really believe in anything.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@Delk: First seconds of the report told me everything I needed to know.
No consideration that your homophobic positions may be wrong or that you need to be more open and honest about yourself?
Piece of shit.
FelonyGovt
@schrodingers_cat: Artist grade will give you better results, will deliver more and stronger color, and will ultimately cost you less if you’re going to be using them frequently. Just my opinion, as someone who has purchased LOTS of art supplies.
trollhattan
The German spree-killer had a visit from the German cops, just a month ago.
“Sporting purposes.” The NRA-approved moniker for military semiautomatic rifles like the AR-15 is “sporting rifles.” This disease is spreading.
Kay
@schrodingers_cat:
Greenwald is full-on, loud n proud anti immigrant now- a return to his former position, a position he first denied and then said he had changed his mind on. I guess he changed his mind….back!
Everything we said about them a decade ago has turned out to be true.
NotMax
@Ceci n est pas mon nym
Lauren Hutton also had a late night TV gig in the 90s.
Although not network fare, going way back, Robin Byrd.
schrodingers_cat
@FelonyGovt: Whenever I am using a new medium I buy a budget set, experiment with it then buy a small set of the artist grade version and then decide if I need a full set.
This is a medium that is new to me. Have you used Caren’dache crayons by any chance?
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Unproven.
Scout211
More good news from Michigan. The 1931 law banning all abortions has been repealed.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Betty Cracker: @trollhattan: Did you actually read that? You killed brain cells, you know.
FelonyGovt
@schrodingers_cat: Yes, I have a set of 15 Caran D’Ache Neocolor crayons. I like them. They can fill a large area quickly and are water soluble.
Betty Cracker
@WaterGirl: Yep, that’s the place I was thinking of, and I believe I did post a picture of their sign ages ago! No idea what I would have named that picture, but the name of the shop is Marian’s Sub Shop in Ruskin, FL.
The sign in question is one of the old DIY signboards that come with a bag of letters and punctuation marks that you have to press into grooves to form words and sentences. I’ve always wondered if they had to order an extra bag of apostrophes! Maybe they turned commas upside down? It’s a mystery.
Anyway, I was just thinking of that place yesterday because I’ll be visiting a former neighbor this weekend in a nearby town and am tempted to swing by for a sub. It’s an odd little place that is run by a bunch of women who are all related to each other — cousins, aunts, nieces, etc.
They only make one kind of sub, which they bake in a little foil-covered oven that always looks like it’s on the verge of blowing a fuse and burning the place down. The subs are addictive, and I want one even though I’m mostly a vegetarian now.
EarthWindFire
@JoyceH: IMO, Trump’s appeal to his base is that you can be mediocre at best and still have “everything”. Being a good public speaker would ruin that, it’s way too elitist to be articulate.
trollhattan
@Dorothy A. Winsor: TBH I am feeling a little like Mike Tyson’s sparring partner.
kalakal
It appears Elon has the same dance teacher as TFG.
Warning! not for those of a sensitive disposition, possessed of the ability to keep a beat, and anyone who can dance
Musk’s moves
Roger Moore
@schrodingers_cat:
People like Taibbi have convinced me of the utter wrongheadedness of the “he may be an asshole, but he’s our asshole” mode of thinking. Assholes are, first and foremost, on their own side. They may occasionally make useful allies of convenience, but that’s all they’ll be. They will never put the interests of the group ahead of their personal interests.
raven
@citizen dave: Ever see Leno in “American Hot Wax”?
If nothin else go to 1;14 and watch Screaming Jay Hawking do “Spell on You”!
geg6
@schrodingers_cat:
You know what you want. Go for it.
schrodingers_cat
@FelonyGovt: This the 84 set!
FelonyGovt
@schrodingers_cat: Have you tried them at all? 84 is a lot, you do want to make sure you like them.
schrodingers_cat
@FelonyGovt: No I haven’t.
frosty
@trollhattan:
Not a lot of high ground there. Hope you’re safe! And if not, then get your bugout bag ready!
geg6
@citizen dave:
Lordy, the only time I turned the channel from Late Night with David Letterman (the first Letterman late night show) was when Leno was on. I have always hated him and his supposed “comedy” that I could only surmise was aimed at middle-aged white men and nobody else. Best guests in those days were Bill Murray, Richard Lewis and Teri Garr.
kalakal
@Betty Cracker: I’ve thought Brand was a complete wanker for many years. When he was still fairly unknown The Observer sent him to interview Keith Richards. The cover was enough to tell me that he was a posing narcissist.
He was trying to out Keef Keef, who, being Keef, was just smiling amiably at the camera.
Brand as Keef
One clue is that Brand can’t play guitar but asked Keef if they could pose with some
brendancalling
@Delk: this is gold!!
frosty
@schrodingers_cat: In any hobby, go for the best you can afford. With the caveat that if you think you might lose interest, scale it back. If you’re gung-ho (which it sounds like you are), stretch “what you can afford”. I’ve had more regrets from spending too little vs. spending too much.
FelonyGovt
@schrodingers_cat: Much as I love encouraging people to go for the good stuff and get what they want, I would suggest starting with a smaller size first to see if you like them and are really going to use them. (But definitely go for the better quality stuff)
UncleEbeneezer
kalakal
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UncleEbeneezer
Don’t miss the second part of Kyle Cheney’s tweet:
“Judge KAPLAN will also allow the testimony of two other women who have claimed Trump sexually assaulted them.”
Origuy
@kalakal: I’ve been watching old episodes of Have I Got News For You on Youtube. I saw an outtakes video that Brand was in. He sat next to Ian Hislop, who looked very uncomfortable. Russell then asked about a break to go to the loo and wandered around the stage. I don’t know how much of that got into the show.
mrmoshpotato
@JoyceH: What Dump is saying is bullshit too. John Oliver over on HBO has had Dump’s bullshit read at a monotone pace and voice, and wow is it crazy person gibberish.
You would think he was drunk, and not just a manchild shitstain.
Uncle Cosmo
The name in question strives mightily to look French; if it is pronounced as it would in that language (karandash) it is identical to one of the few Russian words I remember, which means “pencil”.
Et, voilà! From their website:
Which means, à propos of nothing much, that the name of the capital of Uzbekistan means – wait for it –
:^D
MisterForkbeard
@Scout211: Man, look what happens when you give Dems control (and Rs can’t fuck it up for everyone)
Delk
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time….RIP Robert Blake
oatler
@Uncle Cosmo:
Cartouche?
citizen dave
@raven: Will check that out–thanks! I’ve never seen it. I remember that Screamin’ Jay Hawkins is the Night Clerk in the Jim Jarmusch movie Mystery Train, which my wife and me were lucky to see in Memphis.
trollhattan
@UncleEbeneezer: Butizemails!
God how I’d love Navarro to be catch of the day while they’re out Trump fishing. Of the whole lousy bunch he’s one of my least favorites.
citizen dave
@geg6: I agree with all four of those choices, other than to say I did enjoy Leno on Letterman back then. I actually saw him at our State Fair sometime in the 1990s. He told about 7-8 loooong stories, a couple I had heard before, and it was over. Not good. Then he really turned into prickly Jay over the years hosting.
There is a great YouTube clip of Dave talking about the whole Tonight Show / Conan debacle where he dismisses Jay something fierce. Of course I’ve been living in Indy since 1987, so Dave is our native son. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-8LGTVF3_I
Frankensteinbeck
@JoyceH:
Trump has four modes I’m aware of:
Dinner table rant. Not Hitler, the racist uncle ruining Thanksgiving.
Sneering nastiness.
Wise philosopher speculation.
Depressed mumble.
The depressed mumble has gotten increasingly dominant over time. He got the presidency in 2016 with the first two at his rallies. He can do it. He’s just lost his game.
The speculation tone is super weird, because he has it down pretty well, but if you pay any attention to his words it’s the dumbest shit imaginable. I think his base love it because they’re that stupid and they feel like sages when he does it.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@trollhattan: He was so outraged at having his phone taken, at being arrested. Didn’t they know who he was????
raven
@citizen dave: Great flick!
kalakal
And the BBC has really screwed up in it’s fawning to the right wing today.
They have just side lined their No1 Soccer presenter Gary Lineker
over remarks he made over the Tories blatantly cruel and illegal asylum policy ( so illegal it may scupper Sunak’s brand new trade deal with Europe. Lineker, the Beebs highest paid presenter, is an ex Captain of England’s soccer team, a very, very popular chap, who even as I write is probably being snowed under with offers from rival broadcasters. Pleasingly all of his co-presenters are siding with him and refusing to work without him.
And if picking a fight at the Tories behest with one much loved national figure isn’t enough they’ve also gone after one person no-one on earth is going to beat in a loved and respected poll – Sir David Attenborough.
Sir David has just finished a new 6 part series Wild Islands and the fearless speakers of truth to power at the BBC are not going to broadcast part 6 for
Fear of a right wing backlash
The Tories and the Beeb are really digging a hole with this
Betty Cracker
@Frankensteinbeck: I saw a clip of Trump’s CPAC appearance when he was speculating about Russia bombing NATO HQ, which would fall into “wise philosopher” mode, I guess? And yep, the tone was super weird, and the content was dumb as shit.
lowtechcyclist
@Betty Cracker:
Damn, we drove right past it on I-75 on the way to Plant City after Southwest Flight #1488 (really!) deposited us at Sarasota-Bradenton Airport. Maybe next time!
TriassicSands
But, but, but…what about when it is the biggest WITCH HUNT in history? Of course, with the Blimp from Queens everything is the biggest, worst, best, most… whateverest [sic] in history. Now, if only he could have the most indictments, most trials, most convictions, and longest prison sentences in history justice would be served.
California and the weather. It’s such a beautiful state. I’ve always felt it should have been declared a National Park (or better wilderness area) back in 1840 or so.
Good luck with the flooding. I hope the worst does not happen. So far, up here in far northwestern WA, we’ve managed to avoid catastrophic weather, but it has become strange and unpredictable. In the last year, every season has been unusual in one way or another.
WaterGirl
@Betty Cracker: I had almost given up, but then I found it!
WaterGirl
@WaterGirl: Just as good as the first time I saw it. I can’t stop laughing.
prostratedragon
And an asshole speaks in Texas: Three Texas women are sued for wrongful death after allegedly helping friend obtain abortion medication
It’s plaintiff’s ex-wife, naturally.
kalakal
@WaterGirl: That’s wonderful. I see what Betty means about needing an extra bag of apostrophes
WaterGirl
@WaterGirl: If I had to choose only ONE to nominate, it might just be the extra periods– consist’s of. and topped with.
mrmoshpotato
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
I don’t even remember which pile of shit Navarro is (I don’t need to be reminded) but in efgoldman’s immortal words, “Fuck ’em!”
lowtechcyclist
@WaterGirl:
Just dropped $100 into the WisDems Supreme Court + SD-8 bucket.
kalakal
@WaterGirl: I’m fond of consist’s of.
I keep reading it going onion’s what? Pepper’s what? Pickle’s what?
WaterGirl
@UncleEbeneezer: I can’t quite put my finger on the details at the moment, but I seem to remember that that’s frowned upon.
WaterGirl
@UncleEbeneezer: ooh, I did miss that!
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Does we need to start bringing out subpoenas. What did you say? The people deserve to know.
WaterGirl
@lowtechcyclist: Wow, thank you! There’s a ton of big money from Republican oligarchs in this race, so unless WIS*DEMS is rolling in dough, I imagine they can use all the help they can get.
mrmoshpotato
@lowtechcyclist:
The fascist flight? 😂
kalakal
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation:
‘Tis a story for which the world is not yet prepared.
trollhattan
Something for a Friday afternoon, one of the internet’s finest gifts is still alive and collecting: Awkward Family Photos.
So much for this afternoon’s remaining slice of productivity. A Cole relative?
Anyway
@Uncle Cosmo:
Dig your post that began with Caran d’Ache and ended in Tashkent.
Which reminds me of a favorite book from 10?15? years ago “My Name is Red” by Orhan Pamuk.
Loved, loved, loved that book.
Anyway
@kalakal:
That was the perfect Friday afternoon image. Can’teven begin to reverse engineer it …
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@kalakal: So aliens. Is it aliens?
mrmoshpotato
@WaterGirl: Wow! That is a war crime against the English language!
citizen dave
@Frankensteinbeck: To me one of his basics is simply his Liar character, the one that has the “Sir” begin his story. “Sir, they’ve never seen crowd sizes like the one today…”
Goes along with–how can we forget–his Jon Miller and David Dennison characters. There are hundreds of disqualifying things about this historical accident, but the day I read about how he used to call up NYC radio shows as Jon Miller/David Dennison to rave about tr*&p, and whatnot, I thought, wtf? Why is anyone taking this garbage person seriously?
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@Anyway: What is going on with the margins there?
kalakal
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation:
Close. Alans, it’s Alans
mrmoshpotato
@kalakal: You are no respecter of margins. :)
Anyway
Another proposal from Drumpf’s CPAC talk that I found disturbing but which doesn’t seem to have received much attention is his promise to send the military, National Guard, Space America .. to deport all the Messicans. He put it more violent terms of course.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@kalakal: See? Now I’m giving my desk mate, Alan, some side eye.
kalakal
@mrmoshpotato: You’re correct. I reject the
shackles of everyday limitations…
or I screwed up. 😀
Anyway
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation:
um, what? No idea.
Burnspbesq
@schrodingers_cat:
Go for it!
And while you’re waiting to see whether you win, can you explain why the stadium in Gujarat is named for Modi instead of one of the actual heroes of Indian cricket. I think “Sachin Tendulkar Stadium” has a nice ring to it.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@kalakal: Typically, when there are spaces in the text, the margins don’t break like that. You have performed some kind of magic.
Or else it’s aliens.
kalakal
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation: Very wise of you, tricky blighters those Alans
schrodingers_cat
@FelonyGovt: I will see how the bidding for the auction goes. Right now it is about the half the retail price. Its too good to pass up. And I have to admit that I suffer from the whole set syndrome
My priciest set so far has been the Polychromos Set of 120 pencils. I love them.
Citizen Alan
@Renie: Honestly, I assume Santos has some half asked idea that the speech and debate clause will provide some kind of defense. That or the idea that the feds won’t have the nerve to prosecute a sitting member of Congress. Which, of horse, they have on numerous occasions, but I doubt anyone has explained that to Santos.
kalakal
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation:
It looked fine on my phone when I typed it.
Now it’s all over the place.
I blame Alan
schrodingers_cat
@Burnspbesq: He is a narcissist that’s why. And Indians in general and Gujaratis in particular have lost their minds where he is concerned.
WaterGirl
@mrmoshpotato: It’s so bad, you just can’t look away!
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@kalakal:
::Shakes fist at the sky::
ALAAAAAAN!!!
Frankensteinbeck
@citizen dave:
You’re right, I forgot that one. The dumbasses love that one, too, because they look at him and see themselves, and these are exactly the kind of sad, petty power fantasies they have.
WaterGirl
@kalakal: @kalakal:
I think you had a stray em code in there. anyway, i changed them to bold and eliminated the extra so the margins should be happy again.
Citizen Alan
@Delk:
I am genuinely shocked to find out that Robert Blake didn’t die 20 years ago.
FelonyGovt
@schrodingers_cat: I would do the same. If you can get that big drool-worthy set for a great price, might as well go for it. I didn’t realize they sold new art supplies on eBay. Might have to check that out.
kalakal
@WaterGirl: Thank you. Sorry for the foul up
schrodingers_cat
@FelonyGovt: It is not brand new. It slightly used. You do get new stuff too at eBay. I got an old but unopened set of Conte Crayons for less than $10 once
I got the entire set of Magic Pencils for half the price of what it sold for on Amazon. Only two pencils were slightly used. Saving the environment and my pocket book
I probably won’t buy old paints though. I have some artist grade watercolor tubes that are a bit dried up and was wondering how to revive them. I bought them new but didn’t use them at all for years.
kalakal
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation:
They’ve got form you know
Alans – a warning
Jager
@Alison Rose:
My daughter lives in Ben Lomond, she’s had a terrible winter. She’s in Italy right now, good thing my grandson is keeping an eye on her dog and house.
Citizen Alan
@prostratedragon: Any woman who votes Republican absolutely hates herself.
Fake Irishman
@Anyway:
I read most of My Name is Red while I was in Istanbul, lost my copy just as I got to the last three chapters, and didn’t find it until forgetting most of the key details.
Having said that, The narrative structure was absolutely brilliant.
prostratedragon
@WaterGirl: Sandwich sounds good though. Without the lettuce, onion, and peppers it’s a standard Cuban, which are addictive.
FelonyGovt
@schrodingers_cat: That’s happened to me as I used to go years at times without painting. You can sometimes revive them by very carefully slitting the tube, top to bottom, with a knife and getting at the paint that way. Makes a mess, though, and you probably want to use it then and there.
ETA and I LOVE Conté crayons.
schrodingers_cat
@FelonyGovt: Yeah pencils, crayons and markers are so much more user friendly than paints. I need to dedicate a spot where I can leave my mess to begin dabbling with paint.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Good lord. I’ve been thinking no one should take him too seriously because his bread ain’t baked, but there’s no psychological excuse for that.
The ear worm has landed. Gonna be hearing Sammy (and his back up singers) all weekend, occasionally unconsciously singing along out loud.
Just keep your eeeeeeeeeeye eye eye…..
schrodingers_cat
Question: Why is Russell Brand famous? He looks like a hobo.
apocalipstick
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Have you ever watched Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work?
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@schrodingers_cat: Mainly acting, mainly comedy. He married Katy Perry.
I’ll add that he’s been putting g out political messages for years. I’ve never agreed 100 percent but his heart seems generally in the right place.
I’m not a fan of the tendency to condemn someone for one bad take or even systemically bad takes if they’re generally kind and allied to social justice. I think he is.
FelonyGovt
@schrodingers_cat: Because people inexplicably thought he was funny at one time. Also he was married to Katy Perry for about 10 minutes, if I recall correctly.
ETA Or what Krope just said.
schrodingers_cat
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation: @FelonyGovt: Thanks. Knew about Perry but not his comedy. I accidently saw once of his video rants on YouTube, I backed out slowly, shutting the video as fast as I could.
He sounds crazy.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@schrodingers_cat: He sounds like he smokes too much weed.
schrodingers_cat
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation: Possible. He does sound high.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@schrodingers_cat: I’m not an expert, but I’m a fairly credentialed purveyor.
Betty Cracker
@WaterGirl: LMAO! I can’t believe you found it! 😂
Captain C
@FelonyGovt:
I thought he was quite funny in Forgetting Sarah Marshall and Get Him to the Greek. Other than that, I’m not really familiar with his ouvre, and both of those came out, IIRC, over a decade ago.
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation:
Based on his characters in the above-mentioned movies, this is entirely possible.
pat
@mrmoshpotato:
Hey, but no one will ever forget that sub!
Betty Cracker
@prostratedragon: Not a Cuban, which, number one, requires proper Cuban bread and also must have ham, salami, Swiss and roast pork with blended mayo & mustard and pickles (if you must). Uh-oh, now I want one of those too. This vegetarian thing ain’t going well today! 🥖
WaterGirl
@prostratedragon: The sandwich sounds awesome, but hold the raw onions and the oregano, and I’m there!
WaterGirl
@Betty Cracker: I didn’t find it with my 5 key word searches for posts, so then I tried the media library. it’s only because of your file naming that I was able to find it, so go you!
Tony Jay
@kalakal:
Absolutely, the BBC’s high-ranking coterie of Tory placemats are going way beyond a mere shitting of the bed. This, combined with the censorship of Attenborough’s documentary, is effectively a mass bedumping on the freshly laundered white eiderdown of every single person in the UK who isn’t a red-meat chomping aficionado of hardcore Faragism.
It’s so obviously an assault on the most very basic tenets of fairness, honestly and credibility that it’s got to be a deliberate troll. Remember, creeps like Sharp and Gibb weren’t just put in charge to turn the BBC into an obedient mouthpiece for Tory propaganda, they’re there to utterly wreck the place and leave it broken and friendless when they sell it off. It’s the NHS
Model, just sped up.
They don’t care that they look like idiots because every other Match of the Day presenter has vetoed appearing on the show, they think that they can just shuck off any responsibility onto ‘The BBC’ and enjoy their post sell-off rewards.
We should not let them. This isn’t ‘The BBC’ doing this. It’s the Tory Party and their allies.
WaterGirl
@Betty Cracker: Around here, cubans have ham and roast pork. Maybe cheese, but definitely not salami.
Full disclosure: Central Illinois may not have the most authentic ethnic food.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Someone who’s into that sort of thing might refer to it as “fusion.”
NotMax
@raven
Rock ‘n’ roll was a slang term for sexual intercourse, dating back at least to the Jazz Age of the 1920s.
Brachiator
@kalakal:
It seems only yesterday that the UK media were hyperventilating over Sue Gray.
prostratedragon
@Betty Cracker: Pickles: you must.Know about the bread, but in NYC the Cubans themselves make do, in many cases.
ETA: Forgot about the salami, which is also in NYC sandwiches.
Betty Cracker
@WaterGirl: Cuban sandwiches were invented in Tampa, which is also the only place to get a proper deviled crab. You can’t even get a decent deviled crab in my town, which is less than 100 miles from Tampa.
prostratedragon
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation: Or immigrant adaptation.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@prostratedragon: Hmm, never heard that one.
Matt McIrvin
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Not a big, long-lived one, at least. The Amber Ruffin Show seems to have been cancelled, and it only had a fleeting, token broadcast run–that was terrific; she’s terrific. I don’t know if she would be inclined to avoid pissing people off with her political stuff.
Ruckus
@Skepticat:
When you come at the big dog, you have to have all the ducks lined up. And as much as we all might hate it, SFB is a big dog. (A big dog does not have to be a good dog. This one isn’t close. And of course this big dog delights over rolling around in his own shit, at least figuratively. Until the piper shows up anyway.)
Amir Khalid
@Tony Jay:
I just don’t get this. Gary Lineker and Sir David are probably the least controversial media figures in Britain that I can think of. I’ve always considered Gary to be a good egg.
Montanareddog
@Amir Khalid: Gary is indeed a good egg. As is Sir David, of course, as the whole world knows. BBC management are going to get fierce pushback on this, I predict.
But it is only right wing ranters who get cancelled, doncha know?
Uncle Cosmo
@Anyway: FWIW the author’s name means cotton**. Almost no Turkish citizens had last names until adoption of the Surname Law in mid-1934.***
Many of those chosen were ordinary Turkish words to commemorate occupations or locations of significant events. My high school class had an exchange student from Turkey whose surname was Çobanoğlu, which (I just googled this after 55+ years!?) means “shepherd’s son.” And now I find (26+ years after my one visit to Turkiye!) that “coban salatasi” is “shepherd’s salad,” not, as I thought, “chopped salad” (though it was usually chopped.)
** Pamukkale – “cotton castle” – is a resort in western Anatolia famous for its cascade of ponds fringed in cotton-white mineral encrustations. I was there in ’96.
*** Even Ghazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha was not Atatürk – “Father of the Turks” – til then. At the unanimous insistence of the Turkish legislature, IIRC.
RaflW
@trollhattan: I just checked Kirkwood, one of my greater Tahoe ski areas. Their snowpack is now 233% of average and beyond the record high. I kind of can’t even fathom what a 234″ base depth is like.
ABasin in CO where I snowboard the most has a base of 55″.
anitamargarita
@Betty Cracker:
@Betty Cracker: am laughing now, thanks!
kalakal
@Amir Khalid:
@Montanareddog:
The push back is going to be enormous.
The idiots have also triggered 2 Streisand effects.
The focus is now heavily on Sharp the BBC chair, appointed by Johnson just a couple of weeks after he arranged an £800,000 loan for Johnson, something he forgot to mention on his job application.
Who among us can say that they have never
The sheer cruelty of the Govts immigration policy as well as it’s illegality is now getting far more attention than it would had they not decided to attack probably the best known TV presenter in the country.
The consensus seems to be overwhelmingly that Lineker loses his job for telling the truth, Braverman lies and keeps hers. All govt attempts to defend this are crashing & burning more spectacularly each day. Here’s a sample from
last week.
Modern Slavery
Of course neither Gary Lineker or Sir David need
the BBC, both of them can get work whenever
they want. Unlike the Brexiteers and Europe the Beeb really does need them than they need the Beeb
Mike in Pasadena
Thanks for the update Anne. I suspect TFG will skate as usual.
Tony Jay
@Amir Khalid:
Much of the last decade in the UK has seen a steady narrowing of the bounds of acceptable commentary from what can loosely be termed ‘the Left’, even as Right flavoured propaganda has exploded in reach and virulence. It started with the whole Brexit debate and went absolutely mental in the effort to cripple Labour’s brief centre-left resurgence.
Now we’re left with the tainted fruits of that cross-party collusion. The Right hold all the levers of information flow, the faction allowed to represent ‘the Left’ are scared of their own shadow, and the only people with the media reach to speak and be heard on issues like this are celebrities, while the reflex to lash out at speech that doesn’t fit the Right’s narrative has become automatic.
Linaker and Attenborough are in the tricky position of being decent people of mostly good conscience (Linaker was appalling about Corbyn, but then everyone in the Media was) who work at an organisation the Tories have worked very hard to cripple and turn into their megaphone, at a time when the sheer scale of the Right’s failure to govern has left them with nothing to cling on to but Far Right ideology and division. Stamping out the last embers of resistance to their worldview probably seemed like an eminently do-able thing that would feed the sense of victimisation on the Right while depressing the Left.
Seems like they miscalculated the repressive power of their disapproval. Everyone is looking around and realising that the forces of the Right are very much in a minority on this issue and no one wants to be seen supporting their toxic cruelty.
Bad miscalculation, utterly unsurprising.