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TGIFriday Morning Open Thread: New Reality Show Promo Just Dropped

by Anne Laurie|  March 10, 20237:03 am| 295 Comments

This post is in: Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You, Riveted By The Sociological Significance Of It All

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I'm so excited. Mostly for the cannibalism. https://t.co/Sv81CoTZIZ

— Franklin Stove Expropriator (@agraybee) March 9, 2023

What it means, as Axios would say: Elon has realized he’s not gonna go to Mars on the US government’s dime, which means he’s not going to Mars. Founding his own Jonestown wouldn’t be much of a consolation, but at least the blast of social-media applause from his fanbois will help smother the narcissistic wound of getting globally (& deservedly) pwned by an Icelandic dude with muscular dystrophy.

… In meetings with landowners and real-estate agents, Mr. Musk and employees of his companies have described his vision as a sort of Texas utopia along the Colorado River, where his employees could live and work.

Executives at the Boring Co., Mr. Musk’s tunnel operation, have discussed and researched incorporating the town in Bastrop County, about 35 miles from Austin, which would allow Mr. Musk to set some regulations in his own municipality and expedite his plans, according to people familiar with Mr. Musk’s projects.

They say Mr. Musk and his top executives want his Austin-area employees, including workers at Boring, electric-car maker Tesla Inc. and space and exploration company SpaceX, to be able to live in new homes with below-market rents…

The planned town is adjacent to Boring and SpaceX facilities now under construction. The site already includes a group of modular homes, a pool, an outdoor sports area and a gym, according to Facebook photos and people familiar with the town. Signs hanging from poles read “welcome, snailbrook, tx, est. 2021.”…

Under Texas law, a town needs at least 201 residents before it can apply to incorporate, then approval from a county judge. Bastrop County hasn’t received an application from Mr. Musk or any of his entities, a spokeswoman said…  

[None of this seems new, but the WSJ claims its highly laudatory article has been ‘updated’.]

whoa thats so crazy can't believe hes making galts gulch a real thing

— the real space ghost (@coast_2__coast) March 9, 2023

Jonestown kickstarter is live!

— Multi-MVP Mahomes (@JCBuildHikeRide) March 10, 2023

Elon Musk presents – Fyre City

— Ewan Ross (@ewanrross) March 9, 2023

INTERESTING SINCE HE JUST MOVED BACK TO CALIFORNIA

— Kensgal3 (@kensgal3) March 9, 2023

With a ‘blessing’ from Murphy the Trickster God, I can foresee some top-rank posturing between the Apartheid Princeling and TFG, if only TFG can convince Young Jared’s Saudi benefactors to spread a little more fiduciary balm…

We should build big beautiful walls around each of the new MAGA cities. They would keep out the illegals, and perhaps serve various other purposes as well. https://t.co/uAINnuGCKE

— Kitara Revanchist (@canderaid) March 3, 2023

Just like the Saudis are doing. https://t.co/FTHmjkuZ7Q

— Clean Observer (@Hammbear2024) March 3, 2023

tbh consolidating all of the rich conspiraboomers into maga-cities with single electoral districts isn’t the worst idea https://t.co/GVLlfasaiH

— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachi) March 3, 2023

https://t.co/kRjrXINYJ3

— cai (@AnneNotation) March 9, 2023

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    1. 1.

      BruceFromOhio

      March 10, 2023 at 7:10 am

      … if only TFG can convince Young Jared’s Saudi benefactors to spread a little more fiduciary balm…

      Oh, so stolen, that one is.

      me and a bunch of stupid assholes are going to start a community in the middle of the desert to either die or prove a very important point

      Please proceed.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      March 10, 2023 at 7:14 am

       Fordlândia

      It was established by American industrialist Henry Ford in the Amazon Rainforest in 1928 as a prefabricated industrial town intended to be inhabited by 10,000 people to secure a source of cultivated rubber for the automobile manufacturing operations of the Ford Motor Company in the United States. Ford had negotiated a deal with the Brazilian government granting him a concession of 10,000 km2 (3,900 sq mi) of land on the banks of the Rio Tapajós near the city of Santarém, Brazil, in exchange for a 9% share in the profits generated.[2] Ford’s project failed, and the city was abandoned in 1934.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      trnc

      March 10, 2023 at 7:17 am

      A new proposed mill town. Awesome. I wonder how long the villagers will allow themselves to be strung along before they realize it will never get past the first stoplight, if that far.

      Reply
    4. 4.

      oatler

      March 10, 2023 at 7:19 am

      I am a dull and simple lad

      Cannot tell water from champaign

      And  have never met the queen

      And I wish I could have what he has got

      And I wish I could be like Elon Musk

      THERE’S NO WATER IN THE SOUTHWEST

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    5. 5.

      Betsy

      March 10, 2023 at 7:21 am

      Oh good, a whole city from the guy who thinks that {underground car ferries that take a single car at a time through a single subway tunnel from a single point at one end to a single point at the other end} are the way to address car congestion on city streets above ground.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ACXaFyB_-8s

      Reply
    6. 6.

      Scott

      March 10, 2023 at 7:22 am

      Law enforcement by Pinkerton.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      rikyrah

      March 10, 2023 at 7:24 am

      Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊

      Reply
    8. 8.

      Scott

      March 10, 2023 at 7:24 am

      Of course, Trump wants free land from the taxpayers.

      Reply
    9. 9.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 7:26 am

      Baudville welcomes the competition.

      Reply
    10. 10.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 7:26 am

      @rikyrah:

      Good morning.

      Reply
    11. 11.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 7:28 am

      The Dominion lawyers are just so great. They never let up. Rupert Murdoch and the multimillionaire Fox celebrities went after the wrong company. Rue the day…

      Lawyers for Dominion Voting Systems and a group of media outlets argue that Fox News abused the redaction process and blacked out more than is warranted in the thousands of pages of legal filings and evidence made public in the defamation case it’s facing.
      The new court filings call for the release of pages of evidence that Fox lawyers want to keep secret.
      The redactions are displayed as large chunks of blacked-out text in legal filings and evidence made public in Dominion’s $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News and Fox Corp. If Delaware Superior Court Judge Eric Davis agrees with the arguments by Dominion and the media organizations, he could unseal the once-secret passages before March 21.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 7:28 am

      St. Peter, don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go
      I owe my soul to the company store
      .

      Reply
    13. 13.

      NotMax

      March 10, 2023 at 7:30 am

      Not that she’ll ever see this but a shout out happy birthday to Mom’s sister. She turns 101 today.

      Switching gears, sometimes you feel like a nut….
      ;)
      .

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      mardam

      March 10, 2023 at 7:30 am

      Will the new town have a company store, too?

      Reply
    15. 15.

      Lacuna Synecdoche

      March 10, 2023 at 7:30 am

      What with the new robber-barons in our new gilded age, I suppose it was inevitable that company towns wouldn’t be far behind.

      Reply
    16. 16.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 7:32 am

      I think the Boring Company needs to prove its worth and construct the whole town underground.

      They can call it Morlock City.

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 7:33 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      I hope the Musk employees recognize that now if they quit or get fired they have to uproot their family and move in order to work anywhere else. They also have to sell their house to a different Musk employee. They’re basically entering into a hugely restrictive non compete where Elon Musk controls their whole life because they’re….free thinkers.

      Reply
    18. 18.

      jefft452

      March 10, 2023 at 7:35 am

      “Bastrop County hasn’t received an application from Mr. Musk or any of his entities, a spokeswoman said…  ”

       

      More vaporware

      Reply
    19. 19.

      NotMax

      March 10, 2023 at 7:39 am

      @mardam

      Hershey, Pennsylvania is pretty nice, and can be considered an exception. Milton Hershey built the town and its amenities first before building the factory.

      Good things can also be said regarding George Westinghouse and his employees.

      Reply
    20. 20.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 7:45 am

      @Kay: All I can think is that anybody still working for Musk (or signing up for this monstrosity) is going to get exactly what they deserve, good and hard. I know that sounds cold and heartless, but what kind of idiot does one have to be to enter into employment with such a narcissistic asshole?​

      eta: it would not surprise me in the least if there was a clause in the sale contract that said, if they leave they must sell the property back to the company…. No doubt at a heavily discounted price.

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    21. 21.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 7:47 am

      What if NFTs were a town?

      Reply
    22. 22.

      satby

      March 10, 2023 at 7:48 am

      @NotMax: is this the aunt in South America? Happy Birthday to her!

      Reply
    23. 23.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 7:50 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      We have trouble getting managers and professionals to move here to work for exactly that reason- their employer has too much control. If the job doesn’t work out there are very few other job options within commuting distance. Leaving a job is one thing- moving your kids, selling your house, etc is another.

      Musk’s anti regulatory Right wing dream town is…..anti competitive. It traps his employees. Maybe that’s the only way he can keep them.

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    24. 24.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 7:51 am

      @Kay: I’ll bet this put a smile on your face: Two leading Ohio Republicans found guilty in $60m bribery scheme

      Reply
    25. 25.

      satby

      March 10, 2023 at 7:51 am

      @NotMax: Pullman, in Chicago (natch) is a designated National Monument, and still a going neighborhood.

      Edit to add link.

      Also to emphasize that Musk will never finish this vanity project either.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 7:54 am

      Given how embarrassing the Dominion revelations have been for Fox News and the Fox New multimillionaire media celebrities imagine what they are trying to hide with the redactions.

      This lawsuit is a public service.

      Reply
    27. 27.

      WereBear

      March 10, 2023 at 7:56 am

      I haven’t stopped laughing long enough to type a comment. Please, please PLEASE proceed, Randians!

      #GoGaltsGulch

      Reply
    28. 28.

      Brachiator

      March 10, 2023 at 7:57 am

      Mr. Musk and employees of his companies have described his vision as a sort of Texas utopia along the Colorado River, where his employees could live and work.

      So Musk fires you and you have to vacate your office AND your house?

      No thanks.

      Reply
    29. 29.

      Spanky

      March 10, 2023 at 7:57 am

      Yeah, I’m seeing Muskbucks as the next step, the only currency accepted in Muskville.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      p.a.

      March 10, 2023 at 7:58 am

      21st century American billionaire “culture”: “libertarians” objectively pro-serfdom.

      Reply
    31. 31.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 7:58 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      The lawyers for the corrupt pols argued that stealing 1.6 billion dollars from Ohio citizens is legal under Citizens United. That was their only defense- Justice Roberts pro corruption, pro racketeering decisions.

      I wish Republicans would get tough on crime.

      Reply
    32. 32.

      WereBear

      March 10, 2023 at 7:58 am

      @Baud: It’s what they want the whole US to be.

      I would like to sit down a two-decade Fox viewer and give them a general knowledge test. You know, the dementia kind. The one TFG did so well on.

      I’m asking for science.

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 7:59 am

      @Brachiator:

      Really cuts down on the disgruntled employees too, with the stakes so high. They’ll be super obedient.

      Reply
    34. 34.

      Central Planning

      March 10, 2023 at 8:01 am

      @Baud: More like Bore-lock city

      Reply
    35. 35.

      Central Planning

      March 10, 2023 at 8:06 am

      I met a dudebro at a tech conference and he had similar plans for his employees at his company – company-built homes, grocery store, school, hospital, etc. Still creeps me out thinking about him.

      Sadly he had a decent product, but fortunately there won’t be enough volume to make them a bigcorp

      Reply
    36. 36.

      Steeplejack

      March 10, 2023 at 8:06 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      It was discussed a little bit yesterday. The question now is: where’s the money?

      Reply
    37. 37.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 8:08 am

      @Kay: Ahh, a surefire winning strategy! I guess with the evidence stacked so heavily against their clients, it was the best defense they could come up with.

      Reply
    38. 38.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 8:10 am

      When Hall learned that her fetus was developing without a skull — a condition that meant it certainly would not live and also increased her risk of hemorrhaging — she was forced to travel to Seattle, the closest place she could find an abortion appointment.
      “I’m very concerned for people who don’t have those resources, who will be forced to wait to get sick enough for a Texas hospital to be willing to treat them,” Hall said. “It feels like I’ve lived here my entire life, I’ve built my life around Texas, I pay taxes. Why doesn’t the state also care about me?”

      Had to travel from Texas to Seattle during a health crisis for standard, best practices, modern health care in the United States. This is no longer a good country for women. They get substandard health care.
      Texas women are really in trouble because of the geography. We can get you from Ohio to Michigan or Indiana to Illinois fairly cheaply and easily. Texas to Colorado or Washington is a much bigger lift. They’re really not safe in that state.

      Reply
    39. 39.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 8:10 am

      @Steeplejack: Whores and blow. And Viagra, can’t forget the Viagra.

      Reply
    40. 40.

      Geminid

      March 10, 2023 at 8:10 am

      If he can leave ideology out of it, I could see Musk’s planned city being a success.

      Trump’s proposal is just a fantasy, a poor knockoff of the Saudi’s grandiose planned city of Neum(sp?).

      Reply
    41. 41.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 8:12 am

      @Kay: ​ We Miserians have easy access to the free states of Illinois and Kansas. Kansas.

      I never thought I’d say that.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      Michael Bersin

      March 10, 2023 at 8:13 am

      How late nineteenth century of him. Not exactly conducive to union organizing, for all the wrong reasons.

      “We are born in a Pullman house, fed from the Pullman shops,
      taught in the Pullman school, catechized in the Pullman Church,
      and when we die we shall go to the Pullman Hell.” – Pullman worker, circa 1894.

      Reply
    43. 43.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 8:14 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      Householder is really arrogant – his seat is so gerrymandered he isn’t accountable at all to voters- he was re-elected after being indicted. He was insolent in the trial. Completely unashamed of his behavior and basically daring someone to stop him. So although the case doesn’t make Ohio citizens whole on the money that was stolen from them and doesn’t hold the corporate thieves accountable – they were fined 250k which is nothing, it snagged that one career criminal so is a win, I think.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 8:16 am

      @Geminid:

      What does success mean in this situation?

      If he can leave ideology out of it

       

      The Twitter situation suggests he can’t.

      Reply
    45. 45.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 8:16 am

      Giving the middle finger is a ‘God-given right’, Canadian judge rules

      I did not have that on my headline bingo card.

      Of course, I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment, even if I am an atheist.

      Reply
    46. 46.

      Another Scott

      March 10, 2023 at 8:18 am

      @Geminid: Real estate agents might like it, if there is some sort of exclusive deal to limit competition.

      I hope that they have a good fire department, but don’t expect it – that’s communism you know…  (Bastrop County Complex Fire)

      [ Stupid autocorrect… ]

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    47. 47.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 8:19 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and Flipping the Bird.

      Reply
    48. 48.

      Kansi

      March 10, 2023 at 8:19 am

      Is anyone else getting a Severance vibe to this?

      Reply
    49. 49.

      Steeplejack

      March 10, 2023 at 8:20 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      That surely can’t cover the whole amount. I guess they just wasted the rest.

      Reply
    50. 50.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 8:21 am

      @Kay: Maybe when Dominion gets done with FOX they can go after FirstEnergy Corp.

      Reply
    51. 51.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 8:22 am

      @Baud: Nominated.

      Reply
    52. 52.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 8:23 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      i never thought about it until I got involved. It’s a real advantage to the midwest- you have states with full rights for women right next to states with limited rights for women.

      I’ve been driving my husband’s Jeep SUV so much I’m thinking about getting my own. I always went with miser economy cars because I’m cheap but his big Jeep is pretty nice for me and the ladies plus it’s assembled in Detroit and union made:)

      Reply
    53. 53.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 8:24 am

      @Steeplejack: ​ I rather suspect there is a Bahamian bank with a bulging account or 17.

      Reply
    54. 54.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 8:26 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      Every 5th sentence in the Dominion pleadings describes Dominion as “an American company” just to sort of rub in that the repulsive, immoral Fox employees destroyed a US company to line their own pockets. Such a fun lawsuit for me! :)

      Reply
    55. 55.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 8:26 am

      @Kay:

      Freedommobile!

      Reply
    56. 56.

      Geminid

      March 10, 2023 at 8:27 am

      @Baud:  By success, I  mean building a lot of houses people want to live in close to a lot of jobs people want to work. This being done all the time in Texas, but in a more haphazard way.

      You are right though; if Musk micromanages the project like he micromanages Twitter, there will be problems.

      But I think it is a sound concept. Texas has an abundance of flat, buildable land. It does not have an abundance of water but its not that scarce either.

      Reply
    57. 57.

      VeniceRiley

      March 10, 2023 at 8:29 am

      @mardam: My grandfather worked for company scrip.

      I hope these idiots try it!

      Reply
    58. 58.

      Steeplejack

      March 10, 2023 at 8:34 am

      @Baud:

      In one of my crosswords today: JEEP = “just enough essential parts.”

      Reply
    59. 59.

      hells littlest angel

      March 10, 2023 at 8:38 am

      How much money is being offered to women to move into these incel towns? Because if it’s not at least six figures, they’ll have a 50-to-1 ratio of men to women.

      Reply
    60. 60.

      Soprano2

      March 10, 2023 at 8:40 am

      @Kay: I don’t think the Fox people realized what they were doing when they centered their criticisms on one particular company. They’ve been getting away with the lying crap for so long I guess they thought they’d get away with it this time, too.

      Reply
    61. 61.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 8:41 am

      @Soprano2:

      I don’t think they invented the Dominion conspiracy theory, but once it was out there they had to play to their audience.

      Reply
    62. 62.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 8:43 am

      @Geminid:

      I’m not sure what value Musk adds if that’s all it is.

      Of course, this project is still in its early stages.

      Reply
    63. 63.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 8:44 am

      @hells littlest angel:

      How much money is being offered to women to move into these incel towns?

       

      Every woman who moves there gets a free cybertruck.

      Reply
    64. 64.

      David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      March 10, 2023 at 8:44 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: ​
      descendants of Warren Harding?

      Reply
    65. 65.

      hells littlest angel

      March 10, 2023 at 8:45 am

      Key to the “freedom cities” will be the flying cars, which residents will need every time they want to go somewhere that isn’t a shit-hole.

      Reply
    66. 66.

      hells littlest angel

      March 10, 2023 at 8:46 am

      @Baud:Every woman who moves there gets a free cybertruck.

       

      Clearly Musk knows what the ladies like.

      Reply
    67. 67.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 8:47 am

      @David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: In spirit if not blood.

      Reply
    68. 68.

      Immanentize

      March 10, 2023 at 8:48 am

      Potterville. But all white. With guns.

      Reply
    69. 69.

      WereBear

      March 10, 2023 at 8:52 am

      When the three-part Atlas Shrugged movie came out it gave me endless hours of entertainment, but it was from movie reviewers showing all their comedy chops discussing this disaster.

      With both the book and the movie(s) they couldn’t make it work in FICTION.

      Reply
    70. 70.

      FridayNext

      March 10, 2023 at 8:52 am

      Isn’t the Colorado River drying up?

      Why yes it is, I am sure that won’t be a problem. Water’s not important.

      Reply
    71. 71.

      WereBear

      March 10, 2023 at 8:53 am

      @FridayNext: Doesn’t Mexico have rivers? How dare they.

      Reply
    72. 72.

      oldgold

      March 10, 2023 at 8:55 am

      Another day older and deeper in debt,
      Saint Peter, don’t you call me ’cause I can’t go,
      I owe my soul to the company store.

      Reply
    73. 73.

      James E Powell

      March 10, 2023 at 8:55 am

      @Kay:

      Given how embarrassing the Dominion revelations have been for Fox News and the Fox New multimillionaire media celebrities imagine what they are trying to hide with the redactions.

      Could be I missed it, but I haven’t seen the FTFNYT or anyone else visit any Ohio diners to find out what RealAmericans® think of all this. Or if they are even aware of it.

      Reply
    74. 74.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      March 10, 2023 at 8:55 am

      @Kay: What is the employee’s partner supposed to do if they don’t work for Musk?

      We sometimes had trouble recruiting faculty at Iowa State because Ames had few jobs for partners with careers.

      Reply
    75. 75.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 8:56 am

      Xi was “reelected.” Surprise!

      Reply
    76. 76.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 8:56 am

      @FridayNext: Different Colorado River, tho I’m sure this one has it’s own issues.

      Reply
    77. 77.

      Geminid

      March 10, 2023 at 8:56 am

      @Baud: Mainly, Musk can add the jobs and the money for land acquisition. The planning and physical construction would not be that challenging. That’s all been done before, many times.

      The problem with Musk is that he often thinks there is a better way than “legacy” practices, and that he knows it.

      Reply
    78. 78.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 8:57 am

      @James E Powell:

      Just a private dispute. No public interest. Now, back to the trans debate….

      ETA: The media would usually be the first in there seeking access to redacted information.

      Reply
    79. 79.

      Anyway

      March 10, 2023 at 8:59 am

      @p.a.:

      21st century American billionaire “culture”: “libertarians” objectively pro-serfdom.

      My term for the future that Rethugs and their fellow travelers envisage is neo-feudalism. Very little agency for the individual. Enlightenment – pshaw, what’s that?

      Reply
    80. 80.

      Betty Cracker

      March 10, 2023 at 8:59 am

      Michelle Goldberg’s NYT column today addresses the same topic we discussed in a thread yesterday, i.e., Leonard Leo’s “Federalist Society of everything” scheme. (unpaywalled link) Goldberg sees the obsessive focus on “wokeness” as a sign of weakness.

      The entire Republican Party is banging that same drum 24/7, and maybe it’s not the vote-getter they think it’s gonna be. Here’s how Goldberg puts it:

      …I’m skeptical that anti-wokeness can be the basis for a durable mass movement. That’s not just because a recent USA Today poll found that a majority of Americans see the term “woke” positively but because wokeness is too niche a concern. The Federalist Society trained many young meritocrats who were willing to devote their lives to fighting legalized abortion. It’s hard to imagine the battle against neopronouns and the 1619 Project inspiring the same sort of single-minded intensity. Ronald Reagan used to describe conservatism as a three-legged stool, comprising social conservatives, fiscal conservatives and defense hawks. These days it looks a lot more like a pogo stick

      That said, I don’t think the plutocrats will abandon the GOP anytime soon — for all the yapping about social issues during the Trump years, the only real policy accomplishments were deregulation and favorable tax treatment for rich people and corporations. Defense hawks on the GOP side still exist but are more of an endangered species.

      Reply
    81. 81.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 8:59 am

      The best part about the anti cancel culture ninnies is how incredibly seriously they take themselves and how they constantly describe themselves as “courageous” and “brave”:

      Each summer, UATX gathers curious minds from around the world to cultivate the habits of civil discourse. Via small discussion-based seminars, lectures, and social activities, our students join courageous academics and leaders to explore the great questions of our time.
      This year’s Forbidden Courses entail advanced inquiries into science and religion, race, gender politics, Anglo-American grand strategy, our moral judgments, debates within conservatism, and the state of evolutionary biology. Students will enjoy ample opportunities to meet with leaders from tech, natural science, cultural criticism, academia, and journalism.

       

      Incidentally, despite the shamless bragging and self promotion by these folks none of these topics are “forbidden”.  They’re courses that start with an assumption that standard Right wing tropes are true.

      You could immerse yourself in this “scholarship” at CPAC or by reading any Right wing pols Twitter feed. Their belief that being standard, conventional conservative Republicans is somehow “forbidden” in the US is just nonsense. This would be a lot easier (and require a lot less self congratulatory filler) if they would just admit that they have started yet another conservatve think tank. It’s fine! They don’t have to be ashamed! There are LOTS AND LOTS of far Right Republicans. They espouse the views of Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz. No young person has to pay for that- it’s free. 

      Reply
    82. 82.

      Ken

      March 10, 2023 at 9:01 am

      I see several others also spotted the company store possibilities. I’m sure some exciting modernizations are planned. For example instead of scrip, they’ll pay employees with a digital token which can’t be used anywhere but in town, and will require installing a huge coal power plant to run the blockchain.

      Reply
    83. 83.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 9:02 am

      @Kay:

      UATX gathers curious minds from around the world to cultivate the habits of civil discourse.

       
      Keynote speaker: Donald Trump.

      Reply
    84. 84.

      artem1s

      March 10, 2023 at 9:03 am

      They say Mr. Musk and his top executives want his Austin-area employees, including workers at Boring, electric-car maker Tesla Inc. and space and exploration company SpaceX, to be able to live in new homes with below-market rents…

      Jeebus help them. So basically he wants a Dust Bowl era Company Town where the employees can never leave because they forever indentured servants to the boss. I guess if his fanboys are dumb enough to fall for it…

      And good luck keeping a company going that can’t get access to a reliable power grid. The folks in Austin are going luv this guy the first time they overload the grid and take down half of the state with them.

      Reply
    85. 85.

      sdhays

      March 10, 2023 at 9:03 am

      @Baud: Whenever it ships. So, in other words, they get nothing.

      Reply
    86. 86.

      Immanentize

      March 10, 2023 at 9:03 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: The Texas Colorado is a meandering low water river which is often unnavigable in the summer. There is a series of hydro dams on the Colorado in the Austin Area ending with “Town Lake” — now, I think renamed to Lady Bird? Austin is up-river from Bastrop.

      Fun fact — EVERY lake in Texas but one (“Caddo” in East by God Texas) is actually man made — mostly by dammed rivers.

      Reply
    87. 87.

      Geminid

      March 10, 2023 at 9:04 am

      @Dorothy A. Winsor: Partners who don’t work for Musk’s companies can always commute to Austin or it’s closer suburbs. There are jobs there, and I expect plenty of Austin’s workers are commuting from farther than 35 miles already.

      Reply
    88. 88.

      Soprano2

      March 10, 2023 at 9:04 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: I notice that the state legislature hasn’t brought up the idea of prosecuting women who are trying to leave the state to get an abortion this year. I hope they dropped that idiocy for good.

      Reply
    89. 89.

      Eduardo

      March 10, 2023 at 9:07 am

      @NotMax: He did it in Cuba, too https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camilo_Cienfuegos_(Santa_Cruz_del_Norte)

      Reply
    90. 90.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 9:07 am

      @Betty Cracker:

      Maybe someone at the NYTimes will read her column about how antiwokeness is an elite indulgence because no institution has done more to promote this panic than the NYTimes.

      It’s a joke. Every week, 90% of their op ed writers. They actually hired a full time anti woke warrior.

      Little or no coverage or investment in that paper in covering how women have been pushed back 70 years but they’ll happily spend a million dollars paying the anti woke ninnies. It is now YEAR SEVEN of these people trying to convince Americans that the Oberlin College Student Council and students who misbehave at Yale Law school are an existential threat. Ninnies.

      Reply
    91. 91.

      Soprano2

      March 10, 2023 at 9:07 am

      @Kay: It’s a fun lawsuit for all of us, Kay. I can’t wait to see what’s under the redactions. My only disappointment so far is that the rest of the press stubbornly refuses to admit what we can all see now without question, which is that Fox “News” is an entertainment network, not a news network, and should be treated as such.

      Reply
    92. 92.

      Soprano2

      March 10, 2023 at 9:09 am

      @Baud: True, but they could have been smarter about it by being deliberately vague when they talked about it. Singling out Dominion in their reporting was a huge mistake. If they had a better legal department it never would have happened. Or maybe legal was screaming at them, and they did it anyway for ratings.

      Reply
    93. 93.

      Just Some Fuckhead

      March 10, 2023 at 9:09 am

      Sounds like an excellent place to build his space laser and destroy humanity.

      Reply
    94. 94.

      Geminid

      March 10, 2023 at 9:10 am

      @Immanentize: Virginia has only two natural lakes: Lake Drummond in the middle of the Great Dismal Swamp, and Mountain Lake west of Roanoke.

      There is good kayaking in Lake Drummond and the water’s around it.

      Reply
    95. 95.

      Soprano2

      March 10, 2023 at 9:11 am

      @Immanentize: What’s funniest about TFG’s idea is that he thinks somehow they can keep people out, and only have MAGA’s there. Of course it’s a non-starter anyway, because I think they’d have to change the law to allow building a city on public land. The “keep out stuff from China” is particularly funny, because that would mean no cell phones or computers! LOL

      Reply
    96. 96.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 9:11 am

      …which would allow Mr. Musk to set some regulations in his own municipality…

      “I owe my soul to the company store”.

      I’m certain that a pliant Texas legislature will be happy to limit wrongful termination/wrongful eviction damages in the Musk municipality to $1 and a kick in the Plaintiff’s nuts, said limitations to be given constitutional muster by ever cooperative Textard judges at the state and Federal trial and appellate levels.

      Reply
    97. 97.

      Shalimar

      March 10, 2023 at 9:11 am

      @Baud: Musk adds value because there are 10s of thousands of idiot fanbois like my brother who will move to a Musk-controlled city without even having a job.  Whether having that many drug-addled male lunatics in one place is a good thing….

      Reply
    98. 98.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 9:12 am

      @Baud:

      This is their example of thought leaders who start with an open mind and no preconceived notions:

      At present, relations between men and women are shot through with a dreary political moralism. There is little sense of play, or delighting in sexual differences. How did we get to this point? Whence our determination to feminize the male, butch up the female, and conceive the act of love on the model of a legal contract?

      Facts not in evidence, Baud! WTF? The course BEGINS with an announcement that everything the antiwoke warriors believe is FACT? The whole catalog is like this.
      They’re bad thinkers. All their shit is contradictory and incoherent. They are EXACTLY what they accuse others of being, and it was inevitable that’s how it would be because their concept and theory is garbage. It won’t work.

      Reply
    99. 99.

      Soprano2

      March 10, 2023 at 9:13 am

      @Dorothy A. Winsor: I wonder if the expansion of remote work possibilities helped that. I can see how it would.

      Reply
    100. 100.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 9:13 am

      @Immanentize: Yep, knew that about the lakes/reservoirs. I have never seen this Colorado, know very little about it other than it has several reservoirs on it. Does not surprise me in the least that it gets so low in the summer, it is Texas after all.

      I don’t know about any aquifer they might tap into. I’m pretty sure the Oglalla doesn’t get that far south and even if it does, it is shrinking fast because of over use for irrigated farming.

      Reply
    101. 101.

      Other MJS

      March 10, 2023 at 9:13 am

      Muskow.

      Reply
    102. 102.

      Manyakitty

      March 10, 2023 at 9:13 am

      @mardam: only company scrip is valid for purchases, readily available in exchange for your ameros.

      Reply
    103. 103.

      zhena gogolia

      March 10, 2023 at 9:13 am

      @Just Some Fuckhead: Hi!

      Reply
    104. 104.

      zhena gogolia

      March 10, 2023 at 9:14 am

      @Just Some Fuckhead: Hi!

      Comment system not working this morning. Instead of posting, it keeps telling me it’s a duplicate.

      Reply
    105. 105.

      jonas

      March 10, 2023 at 9:14 am

      @Ken: And instead of paying taxes for law enforcement or fire protection, everyone will just open carry.

      Reply
    106. 106.

      zhena gogolia

      March 10, 2023 at 9:15 am

      And thanks to the system, it is a duplicate! Hi, JSF!

      Reply
    107. 107.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 9:16 am

      @Baud:

      What if NFTs were a town?

      I just want to give you some love on that one. I actually spit out my coffee.

      Reply
    108. 108.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 9:16 am

      @Just Some Fuckhead:

      I didn’t know Musk was Jewish.

      Reply
    109. 109.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 9:17 am

      @Soprano2:

      They work for themselves. I mean, most of us do but we don’t run around pretending we’re holding up Liberal Democracy on our narrow, bowed shoulders.

      Obama poked fun at how seriously they take themselves, which is why they resented him so much:

      During Tuesday night’s Press Conference, President Obama teased a member of the press corps who tried to follow up on a colleague’s unanswered question. Obama asked Jake Tapper of ABC News: “Are you the ombudsman for the White House press corps?”

      Reply
    110. 110.

      artem1s

      March 10, 2023 at 9:17 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: ​
       

      they must sell the property back to the company

      LOL. Why do you imagine the serf will get to OWN their own property. The article didn’t say anything about owning homes. they referred to renting them. It’s probably going to be a month to month lease deal where the company can evict them at any time.

      Reply
    111. 111.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 9:18 am

      @Kay:

      relations between men and women are shot through with a dreary political moralism. There is little sense of play, or delighting in sexual differences.

       

      My old college pick up line.

      Reply
    112. 112.

      Delk

      March 10, 2023 at 9:19 am

      Break an HOA rule and you get called a pedophile on Twitter.

      Reply
    113. 113.

      Kathleen

      March 10, 2023 at 9:19 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: Here’s an in depth story:

      https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2023/03/10/householder-and-borges-felony-convictions-just-a-start-in-stopping-ohio-pay-to-play-corruption

      Reply
    114. 114.

      Soprano2

      March 10, 2023 at 9:19 am

      @Kay: There are two teachers in our school system who are suing over mandatory diversity training. They just lost round 1 of their lawsuit. I asked one of my Jazzercize teachers who is also a teacher in Springfield what that training is like; she said it’s a two hour class. She also knows one of the teachers because they’re in the special ed area like she is; she said this woman is known as a shit-stirrer already. So for two hours these women had to listen to something they didn’t agree with and they decided that was something to sue over. Just whiny babies, every one of them, crying because they had to listen to something they didn’t agree with in order to have a job. They say they were asked to commit to equity and being “anti-racist educators”. Oh, the horror of having to promise not to be a racist!

      Reply
    115. 115.

      Steeplejack

      March 10, 2023 at 9:19 am

      @Soprano2:

      I think the Foxbots were led into singling out Dominion because that’s what their blowhard sources—e.g., Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani—kept yammering about.

      Reply
    116. 116.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 9:20 am

      @Soprano2: I doubt they’ll let it go, they love punishing the sluts

      Reply
    117. 117.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 9:21 am

      Whence our determination to feminize the male, butch up the female, and conceive the act of love on the model of a legal contract?

      I’m going to ask my 20 year old and his GF this and they’re going to tip their heads like inquisitive Golden Retrievers and just gaze benignly at me, like they’re indulging a nut case.

      Reply
    118. 118.

      zhena gogolia

      March 10, 2023 at 9:21 am

      OT, but is anybody watching Cunk on Earth (Netflix)? It’s hilarious!

      Reply
    119. 119.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 10, 2023 at 9:21 am

      @Soprano2: Just whiny babies, every one of them, crying because they had to listen to something they didn’t agree with in order to have a job.

      Like anti-union training in the retail sector? Cry me a river.

      @Kay: Whence our determination to feminize the male, butch up the female, and conceive the act of love on the model of a legal contract?

      What the fuck is “whence?”  I refuse to Google this particular archaic term.

      Also, too, letting people choose their mode of self-expression does not feminize males or butch up women per se.

      Reply
    120. 120.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 9:21 am

      @hells littlest angel:

      How much money is being offered to women to move into these incel towns? Because if it’s not at least six figures, they’ll have a 50-to-1 ratio of men to women

      As they used to say in Alaska, “the odds are good but the goods are odd”.

      Reply
    121. 121.

      Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

      March 10, 2023 at 9:22 am

      @FridayNext: Austin is not that far from the Gulf of Mexico. It gets a decent amount of rain. It isn’t really desert.

      Reply
    122. 122.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 9:22 am

      @Immanentize:

      To be fair, Potterville seemed like a lot more fun than Bedford Falls.

      Reply
    123. 123.

      artem1s

      March 10, 2023 at 9:24 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: ​

      @Kay: I’ll bet this put a smile on your face: Two leading Ohio Republicans found guilty in $60m bribery scheme

      Baby steps. If they don’t go after First Energy and DeWine next then it won’t really help Ohioan’s who have gotten screwed by this Bill that was designed to help FE pay the upkeep on their failing nuke and coal plants. My electric bill doubled when this passed. And I’m not even a FE customer.​
      To date, neither Randazzo nor executives from FirstEnergy or FirstEnergy Solutions, now called Energy Harbor, have been charged with any crime.​​

      Reply
    124. 124.

      Kirk Spencer

      March 10, 2023 at 9:25 am

      I’m looking forward to the comparisons to Disney’s Reedy Creek.

      Reply
    125. 125.

      jonas

      March 10, 2023 at 9:25 am

      Up here near Syracuse, NY, the Oneida Indian nation operates a huge hotel-casino complex with a PGA golf course and everything, and this past year, they put up a bunch of apartments and townhomes near the casino in order to fill vacant jobs — esp. ones like housekeepers, bartenders, custodians, etc. It’s a semi-rural area with very little affordable housing for minimum-wage earners like these and so the tribe offers them subsidized housing to improve recruiting. They look pretty nice from the outside at least, but of course the deal is that you can only stay there as long as you work for the casino, so if you’re fired or quit, you also lose your affordable housing. Good deal for workers and their families? Or essentially trapping vulnerable people in jobs they might want to leave but now can’t? YMMV.

      Reply
    126. 126.

      Soprano2

      March 10, 2023 at 9:25 am

      @Kay: It’s just so crazy making that the people who are supposed to tell us about what’s happening in the news refuse to acknowledge huge news in their own industry, which is that a whole network that claimed to be a news organization is really just an entertainment channel. I mean a lot of us already thought this was true, but now we have definitive proof, and yet they still refuse to actually see it or admit what Fox is.

      Reply
    127. 127.

      Ken

      March 10, 2023 at 9:26 am

      @WereBear: When the three-part Atlas Shrugged movie

      Did they actually finish all three parts? I know there’ve been about three different projects, and that some flamed out after the first movie. Did they just bundle three Part Ones together and market it as the Atlas Shrugged Trilogy? That would be on-point for libertarianism.

      It would also be similar to the DVD edition of the animated Lord of the Rings that consists of the Rankin-Bass made-for-TV Hobbit and Return of the King movies, sandwiching Ralph Bakshi’s The Lord of the Rings. As one reviewer said, imagine a parent who buys that for their kids…

      Reply
    128. 128.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 9:26 am

      @Soprano2:

      Everyone should sue over all training, because no one is the boss of anyone else and no one has anything new to learn.

      I always feel really Pollyannaish over this RAGE at training because I sort of like continuing legal education. The fact is none of us would do it if it wasn’t required and I always learn something. I listen, take notes, you’re there anyway why not see if it’s worthwhile?

      Maybe these people know everything already. I’m embarrassed at teachers whose position is “I cannot be expected to learn anything”. Christ. Find another profession.

      Reply
    129. 129.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 9:26 am

      @James E Powell:

      “In vacating this verdict and dismissing this case, we are distinguishing NYT vs Sullivan, holding that telling destructive lies for profit does not rise to the standard of maliciousness.”

      – Justice Samuel Alito, authoring the majority opinion

      Chief Justice Roberts concurs in result only.

      Reply
    130. 130.

      Other MJS

      March 10, 2023 at 9:27 am

      @zhena gogolia: Yes! I was roaring!

      Reply
    131. 131.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 10, 2023 at 9:27 am

      @Soprano2: a whole network that claimed to be a news organization is really just an entertainment channel

      “Entertainment” is an odd term for performative outrage.

      Reply
    132. 132.

      jonas

      March 10, 2023 at 9:30 am

      @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: Reminds me of a classic Bart Simpson line about Branson, MO: “My dad says it’s like Vegas…if it were run by Ned Flanders.”

      Reply
    133. 133.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 9:30 am

      @artem1s: Reading is fundamental!

      Reply
    134. 134.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 9:30 am

      @Soprano2:

      I think it hits really close to home. It hink it’s probably true that CNN delays election calls to juice ratings, which is one of the allegations that came out of this. There’s no real structure for accountability in media, as a profession. They don’t risk a license or some kind of oversight or discipline action. Nothing happens to them. They make huge errors and there is or isn’t a weak apology (mostly not even that- mostly just a defensive attack on the critic) and they all remain safely employed and it’s on to the next topic.

      Reply
    135. 135.

      Geminid

      March 10, 2023 at 9:30 am

      @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: Wikipedia tells me that Austin gets 34.2 inches of rain a year. That will be allow for a fair amount of growth once they get around to managing water use efficiently. They may eventually need to build more reservoirs in the Hill Country.

      Reply
    136. 136.

      Manyakitty

      March 10, 2023 at 9:32 am

      @Kay: sad that our expectations have dropped so low.

      Reply
    137. 137.

      Betty

      March 10, 2023 at 9:33 am

      @Soprano2: You have to wonder what kind of teachers they are with that attitude. One teaches special ed? One of the areas addressed by DEI training. Just wow.

      Reply
    138. 138.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 9:33 am

      @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: letting people choose their mode of self-expression does not feminize males or butch up women per se.

      Obviously, you are so woke you are asleep and can’t see what is happening all around you.

      s//

      Reply
    139. 139.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 9:34 am

      @zhena gogolia:

      I don’t have Netflix, but I’ve seen ciips. Very funny.

      Reply
    140. 140.

      zhena gogolia

      March 10, 2023 at 9:34 am

      @Other MJS: There’s one Cambridge philosophy professor who’s really good at playing along.

      Reply
    141. 141.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 9:36 am

      @Geminid:

      Managing water use in denser exurbs is communism.  Every neighborhood is entitled to mandate exquisitely manicured landscaping, an 18 hole Jack Nicklaus-inspired golf course and a giant signature entrance at the locked gates.

      Reply
    142. 142.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 9:36 am

      @artem1s: They all have corporate immunity, even Randozzo as he was a bought and paid for asset.

      Reply
    143. 143.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 9:36 am

      @OzarkHillbilly:

      “Wake up, sheeple!”

      Reply
    144. 144.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 10, 2023 at 9:39 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: I actually have a lot of complicated feeling about my own gender expression. I’m not Trans, precisely, and I don’t claim to fully understand what Trans people must go through. My own personal expression is very cis.

      Still, I can appreciate that people ought to be free to express the way they feel. Also, the same tools going after them are going after women, racial minorities, immigrants, my fellow homosexuals, and anyone who works for a living.

      Solidarity seems like it ought to be a priority.

      Reply
    145. 145.

      Jeffg166

      March 10, 2023 at 9:39 am

      Sounds like Elmo had another bad acid trip.

      Reply
    146. 146.

      Manyakitty

      March 10, 2023 at 9:39 am

      @Baud: lol, I am so glad we don’t have to claim him.

      Reply
    147. 147.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 9:40 am

      @Kay:

      Whence our determination to feminize the male, butch up the female, and conceive the act of love on the model of a legal contract?

       

      I bet it was because of these four libs.

      Imagine a group of four people sitting at the Harvard Club for lunch in midtown Manhattan,” he said in a 2020 Teneo video: “a billionaire hedge funder,” “a film producer,” “a Harvard professor” and “a New York Times writer.”

      Reply
    148. 148.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 9:40 am

      @jonas:

      Recruiter pitch:

      “And in our company town of Muskville, each block has a rifle range with robotic lawn jockeys that you can shoot at as targets.  Sounds fun, right?”

      Reply
    149. 149.

      Betty Cracker

      March 10, 2023 at 9:40 am

      @zhena gogolia: It’s funny AF. I don’t know how on earth the experts she talks to keep a straight face.

      Reply
    150. 150.

      Frankensteinbeck

      March 10, 2023 at 9:41 am

      A Musk city is a hilarious non-starter.  If it somehow survived the construction phase, not enough people would want to live there, and their actions would destroy it, like every other Galt’s Gulch plan.  In this case, it would be management destroying it, since Musk would do his damnedest to force employees to live there.

      But it’s a literal non-starter, because I see he hasn’t filed for it and is just running his mouth again.

      @Baud:

      once it was out there they had to play to their audience.

      That’s specifically what they say in the released messages.  Fox has to repeat back to their viewers what the viewers believe, or they’ll leave Fox and go somewhere else.  That was the money angle, not it being a profitable story.

      @Kay:

      There is little sense of play, or delighting in sexual differences.

      In case anyone doesn’t speak conservative, ‘play’ means boys’ club sexual harassment.  Oh, and date rape.

      Reply
    151. 151.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 10, 2023 at 9:41 am

      @Baud:

      I bet it was because of these four libs.

      Imagine a group of four people sitting at the Harvard Club for lunch in midtown Manhattan,” he said in a 2020 Teneo video: “a billionaire hedge funder,” “a film producer,” “a Harvard professor” and “a New York Times writer.”

      That approximates the least woke gathering I can imagine.

      Reply
    152. 152.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 9:42 am

      @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

      It’s almost as if the First Amendment should cover clothing choice as a matter of expression, even though Scam Alito and the Savonarola Six may disagree.

      Reply
    153. 153.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 9:44 am

      @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

      It’s from here.

      Reply
    154. 154.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 10, 2023 at 9:45 am

      @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: One would think. Though the connection between the first amendment and clothing is less obvious than, say, the connection between the first amendment and buying politicians political ads.

      @Baud: Yeah, I saw that floating around yesterday. I just needed to point out how weak it is on the premise alone.

      Reply
    155. 155.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 9:46 am

      @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: ​ people ought to be free to express the way they feel.

      And why would any one have a problem with it? It’s fear I guess. Fear of what? Catching it?

      My mother’s favorite cousin was a lesbian in a life time partner ship. One of the highlights of every visit to Dallas was seeing Bobby June and Maxine. Funny how none of us 6 kids caught the gay virus. The same for my sons who loved my lesbian roommate.

      eta in hindsight my Southern Baptist grandmother did not approve, but she never approved of most of the things Ma did and Ma didn’t give a shit.

      Reply
    156. 156.

      schrodingers_cat

      March 10, 2023 at 9:47 am

      Musk should take Avivek (No Sense) with him to Texas.

      Reply
    157. 157.

      Jinchi

      March 10, 2023 at 9:47 am

      where his employees could live and work.

      Yikes! So he really does want to kick people out at will.

      Nothing says Utopia like your boss owning your house.

      How would you like to be calling HR asking why the biometric keys to your house no longer work.​

      Reply
    158. 158.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 9:48 am

      @Jinchi:

      Probably wants to monitor their internet too.

      Reply
    159. 159.

      Soprano2

      March 10, 2023 at 9:49 am

      @Kay: They say their First Amendment rights were violated because the trainer disagreed with things they said and told them they were wrong. The horror, they had to hear someone disagree with their viewpoint! These people who are upset because they had to take training that asked them not to be racists.

      Reply
    160. 160.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 10, 2023 at 9:50 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: And why would any one have a problem with it? It’s fear I guess. Fear of what? Catching it?

      Specifically with respect to Trans people; the most common fear of the men I know who are the most vocal is that they will be attracted to a woman, undress them, and (gasp!) a penis.

      They might drop dead right on the spot.

      eta in hindsight my Southern Baptist grandmother did not approve, but she never approved of most of the things Ma did and Ma didn’t give a shit.

      Good.

      Reply
    161. 161.

      Jinchi

      March 10, 2023 at 9:50 am

      @Baud: Well, they’ll all be chipped, so, yeah.

      Reply
    162. 162.

      glory b

      March 10, 2023 at 9:50 am

      @Baud: I was wondering what your response would be.

      Reply
    163. 163.

      Soprano2

      March 10, 2023 at 9:50 am

      @jonas: That is EXACTLY what Branson is like, they nailed it!

      Reply
    164. 164.

      Matt McIrvin

      March 10, 2023 at 9:54 am

      Texas is just hot Mars, right?

      Reply
    165. 165.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 9:54 am

      @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: Yeah, that’s an old fear. “Maybe I’m gay too?”​

      eta: Ma was a special kind of person, a very strong woman and definitely a role model for all us kids.

      Reply
    166. 166.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 9:55 am

      @Baud:

      It’s only the right thing to do.

      As a condition of your employment, you live in Musk rental property (which includes utilities and an ISP that includes your cell service on a MuskPhone), all of  which will be conveniently deducted from your pay.  Your pay will go into your account at MuskBank, you will grocery shop at MuskCo, and your retirement savings will be through the town square brick-and-mortar MuskBroker. You will be allowed up to three visitors per week through the gate, no outside deliveries allowed….

      Reply
    167. 167.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 9:56 am

      You really have to read the antiwokesters to fully appreciate how seriously they take themselves and hwo self congratulatory they are;

      After much consideration, I am tendering my resignation from The Daily Wire, a publication to which I dedicated my time and passion as an investigative reporter for the last six months.My interest in the transgender debate became all-consuming when I realized that so many of our trusted institutions—the mainstream media, government, academia, civil rights and gay rights organizations, big tech, and the medical establishment—were misled on this issue and were misleading the public in turn. As a pro-choice atheist who has consistently voted Democrat throughout my adult life, this realization, as I’ve written, was nothing short of world-rocking.

      You’ve probably never heard of her, because she writes for a far Right outlet with, I don’t know, maybe 100,000 readers but she felt the need to write a 1000 word essay about how principled she is when she changed jobs. Probably a good career move though- the anti trans nuts on the Right get nuttier every day. I don’t blame her for seeing that as a career risk, but do we all have to go along with her delusion that is somehow about Democracy and Debate? It’s her dumb career. We all have one. Maybe she could talk to her friends about leaving one far Right rag and moving to another? It’s not a matter of national interest.

      She has “devoted 6 months” to this. Guffaw. I just “devoted 6 months” to finding someone to add a bathroom to a house. I will now pen a 1000 word essay about it.

      Insufferable people.

      Reply
    168. 168.

      glory b

      March 10, 2023 at 9:59 am

      @Geminid: In other words, a failure.

      Reply
    169. 169.

      EmbraceYourInnerCrone

      March 10, 2023 at 10:00 am

      On the” beautiful Colorado River”,  the Colorado that’s drying up and going to be subject to even uglier water rights wars as time goes on?  That Colorado River??

      Reply
    170. 170.

      Albatrossity

      March 10, 2023 at 10:00 am

      American oligarchs seem to have a thing about building their own version of Utopia. Just off the top of my head I can think of Fordlandia, Coltsville, and the lovely town of Post, TX.

      Wankers all.

      Reply
    171. 171.

      Soprano2

      March 10, 2023 at 10:03 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: My husband had a lawyer friend who I am convinced was a deeply, deeply in denial homosexual. He had a particularly vicious streak when it came to gay people, and he never had a good relationship with a woman as far as I knew.

      Reply
    172. 172.

      glory b

      March 10, 2023 at 10:03 am

      @Another Scott: Well, the real question is whether or not they will have any water in the first place, I think.

      Reply
    173. 173.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 10:05 am

      FTR: I am disappearing to NOLA for some serious granddaughters time for the next 11 or 12 days. Enjoy the peace and quiet my absence will bring you for as long as it lasts. I will be back.

      Reply
    174. 174.

      JaneE

      March 10, 2023 at 10:08 am

      Company towns?  Only rental housing because the company owns everything?  What could go wrong with that?

      Not a particularly good idea with the most altruistic and benign of bosses.  With madman Musk? You got to be kidding.

      Reply
    175. 175.

      Soprano2

      March 10, 2023 at 10:08 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: Enjoy it! Sounds like fun.

      Reply
    176. 176.

      artem1s

      March 10, 2023 at 10:08 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: ​
       
      The current OH AG isn’t going to do anything about First Energy’s corruption, He’s a OH MAGAt toady, just like DeWine. The OH GQP hated Householder because he wasn’t their chosen Speaker. He’s providing cover for FE – they threw his ass under the MAGAt bus long ago.
      But this is a perfect case for the DOJ to go after Citizen’s United. Householder’s lawyers literally claimed SCOTUS/Roberts gave them permission to bribe public officials under CU. And it’s a great case for a class action civil suit. FE has been mismanaging and causing harm to the citizen’s of Ohio since deregulation and dismantling of public utilities. Their lack of maintenance already caused one blackout that affected the entire east coast. They have been spewing coal ash across southern OH for decades because they refuse to shutter that coal plant. And they missed a football sized hole in the containment tank of the Davis Besse Toledo nuclear plant sitting the largest source of fresh water on the planet. That’s why all the citizens of the state are paying these extra electric fees. Because they don’t want to have to pay for it’s upkeep and won’t shut it down.

      Reply
    177. 177.

      stinger

      March 10, 2023 at 10:09 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: My favorite recording of that song:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI9KBLb_8ro

      Reply
    178. 178.

      glory b

      March 10, 2023 at 10:09 am

      @James E Powell: Can I once again air my bone to pick with this? They seem to always land in Youngstown OH, and speak only to white people.

      You’d never know that Youngstown is actually majority minority, would you?

      Reply
    179. 179.

      Jinchi

      March 10, 2023 at 10:10 am

      @Kay: ​
       “As a pro-choice atheist who has consistently voted Democrat throughout my adult life”

      This is an entirely believable statement from a woman who has dedicated the last six months of her life working for the Daily Wire attacking trans people.

      I now subscribe to all her views.

      Reply
    180. 180.

      stinger

      March 10, 2023 at 10:10 am

      @NotMax: Many happy returns of the day to her!

      Reply
    181. 181.

      hells littlest angel

      March 10, 2023 at 10:13 am

      @zhena gogolia:

       

      I like Diane Morgan, and I’ll probably watch this, even though I’ve found her Cunk series to be pretty uneven.

      Reply
    182. 182.

      Bruce K in ATH-GR

      March 10, 2023 at 10:17 am

      @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: I’m sorry, but I can’t read “wake up, sheeple!” without my brain going to XKCD #1013.

      “Ten thousand years we slumbered… now we riiiiise. (Baaaaaaaa…)”

      “He awoke the sheeple!” “Heaven forgive us!” “All is lost!”

      Reply
    183. 183.

      Geminid

      March 10, 2023 at 10:18 am

      @EmbraceYourInnerCrone: No, a different Colorado River in Central Texas.

      Reply
    184. 184.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 10:18 am

      @Jinchi:

      Oh, who knows, Maybe she’s telling the truth. Most people don’t announce their boring ideological shifts Right and tactical job changes like it’s earth changing news so we don’t really know how common this is.

      I don’t have any problem with ambitious careerists. I’m all for whatever makes people happy. I have a problem with people pretending that’s some kind of wildly courageous ethical stance. She worked for the Right wing outlet until it looked like the violent rhetoric around trans people might be career damaging in her new posture as “brave contrarian liberal”, so she quit. Big deal.

      Do they hear themselves? They’re insufferable. Give me the blue haired 20 year old social worker any day. She’s less annoying and not NEARLY as self important.

      Reply
    185. 185.

      Geminid

      March 10, 2023 at 10:18 am

      @EmbraceYourInnerCrone: No, a different Colorado River in central Texas.

      Reply
    186. 186.

      different-church-lady

      March 10, 2023 at 10:18 am

      Bears.

      Reply
    187. 187.

      Bruce K in ATH-GR

      March 10, 2023 at 10:20 am

      @JaneE: A lot of bad ideas come around again because people forget why they were rejected in the old days. Company towns, unregulated financial institutions, child labor, poll taxes, and so on and so forth.

      (The good part about people trying to wipe out regulations is that it ends up providing object lessons in why those regulations were written in the first place (first draft in blood, as they say). The bad part is the widespread, catastrophic collateral damage caused in those object lessons.)

      Reply
    188. 188.

      Spanky

      March 10, 2023 at 10:20 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: You party animal! Going to NOLA for Lent.

      Have fun!

      Reply
    189. 189.

      gene108

      March 10, 2023 at 10:21 am

      @Soprano2:

      My only disappointment so far is that the rest of the press stubbornly refuses to admit what we can all see now without question, which is that Fox “News” is an entertainment network, not a news network,

      I gut feeling is Fox News isn’t the only “news” outlet where media personalities and columnists or producers or executives say a lot of shit in private that they really don’t want the public to know about.

      I doubt Fox News is unique in that CEO’s tell the rest of the organization what to cover or not cover based on ratings or not pissing off advertisers and so on.

      Reply
    190. 190.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 10:22 am

      @Jinchi:

      She’s going to continue to work for a whole set of well funded Right wing groups including the Koch funded “Mothers Against Public Schools” or whatever. She’ll get paid. The antiwokes are flush with Right wing cash. We can now watch them all try to thread the needle between their allies who want to outlaw trans people and their supposedly “liberal” beliefs. We’ll see more carefully calculated distancing, I suspect.

      Reply
    191. 191.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 10:22 am

      @Soprano2: My family was friends with one of the nicest guys I’ve ever met. He worked with my father for years. Then one day he broke off his engagement to a very lovely woman, quit his job and joined a seminary. Looking back with educated eyes it is now obvious that he was gay. It was not denial in his case, but an attempt to deal with his “sinful” thoughts and desires thru immersion in a religious life.

      Last I heard he was working at the Vatican. I would like to think he has found happiness there, he certainly deserves it, but I rather doubt one can live happily while denying the most basic parts of one’s self.

      Reply
    192. 192.

      kalakal

      March 10, 2023 at 10:24 am

      Musktown, Peonville, MuskyAcres? Whatever they should build a big, beautiful wall around it with only one entrance called…

      Elongate

      I’ll see myself out

      Reply
    193. 193.

      OzarkHillbilly

      March 10, 2023 at 10:27 am

      @Spanky: ​ I’m too old for Mardi Gras.

      Reply
    194. 194.

      Mike S. (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)

      March 10, 2023 at 10:27 am

      @Another Scott:  “I hope that they have a good fire department, but don’t expect it – that’s communism you know…”

      I’ve read that actually the most cost effective thing for fire departments in suburban areas to do is just have enough equiment and personell to prevent fires from spreading to adjacent dwellings and use the “big” savings for rebuilding the totaled houses. I’m sure that’s what the Musk-dwellers would want. What could go wrong?

      Reply
    195. 195.

      Ken

      March 10, 2023 at 10:27 am

      @kalakal: I’ll see myself out

      Scant meters ahead of the raging mob.

      Reply
    196. 196.

      Ceci n est pas mon nym

      March 10, 2023 at 10:28 am

      @David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: [Fordlandia] was established by American industrialist Henry Ford in the Amazon Rainforest in 1928 as a prefabricated industrial town… the city was abandoned in 1934.

      I need to know so much more about those 6 years and what the society in Fordlandia looked like before they shut it down.

      Reply
    197. 197.

      rumpole

      March 10, 2023 at 10:30 am

      MAL, right now.

      “Why didn’t I think of this?  Jr. you have no imagination.  Now give me those pageant pictures of your sister.”

      Reply
    198. 198.

      Betty Cracker

      March 10, 2023 at 10:31 am

      @Kay: I don’t think she’s read the room correctly. For people who want to monetize anti-trans panic, it’s not only okay to be a smug, self-righteous busybody like that woman is — it’s a requirement! But you’ve got to be willing to go whole hog. Even minor equivocation isn’t allowed. She’ll go broke.

      Reply
    199. 199.

      Ken

      March 10, 2023 at 10:31 am

      @Ceci n est pas mon nym: The wikipedia article that David quoted has some information.  I’m thinking Fordlandia would be a great setting for a Call of Cthulhu scenario. It’s even the right era!

      Reply
    200. 200.

      kalakal

      March 10, 2023 at 10:31 am

      The Cadbury’s built a ‘model village’ for their workers called Bournville

      It’s now a suburb of Birmingham and is pretty nice “one of the nicest places to live in the UK”. For 1893, height of Victorian grinding the poor, it’s amazing.

      One quirk is that the Cadbury’s are Quakers and it’s dry. These days the place is ringed with pubs and booze stores.

      Reply
    201. 201.

      different-church-lady

      March 10, 2023 at 10:33 am

      New Reality Show Promo Just Dropped

      “Incel Wants A Wife”?

      Reply
    202. 202.

      prostratedragon

      March 10, 2023 at 10:36 am

      @Other MJS:  Of course!

      Reply
    203. 203.

      Spanky

      March 10, 2023 at 10:36 am

      @different-church-lady:

      Bears.

      ??? Still, given the threads running through here, all I could think of was this.

      Reply
    204. 204.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 10:39 am

      @David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: You know he’ll want to issue company scrip with his face on the 20 Musk note.

      Edit: See Spanky beat me to it.

      Reply
    205. 205.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 10:41 am

      @NotMax: Go Mom’s sister! 101 is amazing!

      Reply
    206. 206.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 10:41 am

      @JaneE:

      Not a particularly good idea with the most altruistic and benign of bosses.

      The benign model of the company town always goes to shit the first time an employee dies and has a family living at the company house, shopping at the company store.

      Reply
    207. 207.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 10:41 am

      @Baud: How about ‘Musklock City’? Might want to copyright that one.

      Reply
    208. 208.

      Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

      March 10, 2023 at 10:42 am

      @glory b: Austin isn’t in the desert.

      Reply
    209. 209.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 10:43 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: Don’t think they get to own the houses. Will just be renting.

      Reply
    210. 210.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 10:45 am

      @different-church-lady:

      Recruiter Pitch to young women:

      “We’re all family here in MuskVille. We encourage our people to socialize together and reward those relationships with added MuskHours on the high performance aspects of your Tesla. We even have conjugal rooms in the workplace for couples!”

      Reply
    211. 211.

      prostratedragon

      March 10, 2023 at 10:45 am

      @Paul in KY: ​Someone upthread quietly slipped in Muskow, which I rather like.

      Reply
    212. 212.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 10:49 am

      @different-church-lady:

      A Muskford wife.

      Reply
    213. 213.

      Geminid

      March 10, 2023 at 10:49 am

      @kalakal: Schuyler, Virginia had a small company town back when the soapstone quarries were operating. They even had a hospital/infirmary made out of soapstone. Some New Age people bought it about 1980. Their Chrismas parties were kind of different.

      Schuylur was the home of writer Earl Hamner, and the setting of The Waltons.

      Reply
    214. 214.

      WereBear

      March 10, 2023 at 10:49 am

      @Ken: I went through it in real time :) But there’s no fixing any of it!

      Reply
    215. 215.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 10:53 am

      @kalakal:

      👍

      Reply
    216. 216.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 10:56 am

      @Geminid:

      FYI via reddit.

      https://i.redd.it/guttols97xma1.jpg

      Reply
    217. 217.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 10:57 am

      @Just Some Fuckhead: Good to see your nym! Hope all is well with you and your family.

      Reply
    218. 218.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 10, 2023 at 10:57 am

      @Albatrossity:

      Harlan County USA – The Model Company Town

      Reply
    219. 219.

      Manyakitty

      March 10, 2023 at 10:58 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: safe travels and enjoy!!!

      Reply
    220. 220.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 10:58 am

      @Other MJS: Well played. Muskograd was the other correct answer.

      Reply
    221. 221.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 10:59 am

      @jonas: It would be like Libertarian Police Force ™!

      Reply
    222. 222.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 11:00 am

      @Baud: Did you have a form for them to complete?

      Reply
    223. 223.

      kalakal

      March 10, 2023 at 11:01 am

      @Kay: They even fail at being humbugs

      Reply
    224. 224.

      prostratedragon

      March 10, 2023 at 11:04 am

      One can imagine years from now when the whole thing is but a dim memory, a semirehabilitated former Muskerton mayor whose body seized up like Strangelove’s with the desperate effort against breaking into a “Muskrat Ramble” one-step.

      Reply
    225. 225.

      Geminid

      March 10, 2023 at 11:10 am

      @Paul in KY: How about “Muskopolis?” I think Fritz Lang’s Metropolis is public domain now, so they wouldn’t even have to spend on new promotional videos.

      Reply
    226. 226.

      scav

      March 10, 2023 at 11:12 am

      Imagine the amenities (stores, restaurants) and infrastructure (roads, schools, parks, library, fire & police dept) and long-term stability of environment provided by a guy who tried to get Twitter employees to buy the houseplants at headquarters.

      Reply
    227. 227.

      Uncle Cosmo

      March 10, 2023 at 11:13 am

      @gene108: ​I [sic] gut feeling is Fox News isn’t the only “news” outlet where media personalities and columnists or producers or executives say a lot of shit in private that they really don’t want the public to know about.

      The Uncle Don Effect:

      …[A] popular urban legend is that Carney was fired after an embarrassing incident at the conclusion of a 1947 broadcast. According to the legend, after ending his program with his usual “Goodnight, little friends, good night” sign off, Carney thought he was off the air and exclaimed, “There! That ought to hold the little bastards”—but his microphone was still live, and his comment was broadcast to his radio audience. The legend goes on to state that public outrage caused Carney’s termination from radio.

      …[S]hortly after Carney’s death in the mid-1950s, a man by the name of Kermit Schaefer resurrected the story once again….. Schaefer was best known for his collection of “bloopers” – radio and television mistakes, gaffes, malaprops, spoonerisms, and tongue twisters….After Carney died, Schaefer featured a “recording” of the “little bastards” incident on his Bloopers album. The legend has since been proved to be just that, a legend. The “recording” was proven to be just a fabricated recreation of the legend.

      I heard the “recreation” years ago, courtesy of a former friend from college who had a collection of (IIRC) five LPs’ worth of Schaefer’s bloopers. It was ROTFLOL funny – precisely because one could readily imagine a yuuuge multitude of radio/TV hosts thinking exactly that, and many saying it out loud when (fortunately for their careers) the mike was, in fact, hors de combat…​​

      Reply
    228. 228.

      geg6

      March 10, 2023 at 11:14 am

      @Kay:

      Pretty easy to get to PA, too.  No restrictions will get by our Dem governor or Dem run state House.

      Reply
    229. 229.

      kalakal

      March 10, 2023 at 11:16 am

      @gene108:

      I doubt Fox News is unique in that CEO’s tell the rest of the organization what to cover or not cover based on ratings or not pissing off advertisers and so on.

      The Observer* was an interesting example of that before 1993 when it was bought by The Guardian.

      It was owned by a guy called  Rowland “Tiny” Rowland ne Furrhop who didn’t give a shit what it published except for when it came to his business interests. He had a lot of very tangled dealings in Africa and was best buds with a lot of very corrupt people so every so often the paper would have a 6 page puff piece about some dictator and the delights of an emerald/platinum mine. He went beserk when bidding for Harrods against Al-Fayad and the paper became a joke as it was little more than a vehicle for slagging off Al-Fayad for months. Weirdly the rest of the paper carried on as good pretty impartial journalism

      *It’s the world’s oldest sunday newspaper, since 1791

      Reply
    230. 230.

      trnc

      March 10, 2023 at 11:17 am

      @Brachiator: So Musk fires you and you have to vacate your office AND your house?

      At the rate he’s firing people now, he’s not going to have enough employees left to fill a duplex, much less a town.

      Reply
    231. 231.

      glory b

      March 10, 2023 at 11:17 am

      @Steeplejack: Speaking of which; Jenna Ellis was instrumental in shaking faith in our electoral system, why is she only getting public censure and not disbarred?

      Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis censured for falsehoods about 2020 election | PBS NewsHour

      And is now on twitter taking a victory lap?

      Reply
    232. 232.

      Bobby Thomson

      March 10, 2023 at 11:19 am

      Fresh from inventing the subway, Musk now has invented the company town.

      Reply
    233. 233.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 11:19 am

      @Matt McIrvin: Also with breathable atmosphere & liquid water. So just about…

      Reply
    234. 234.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 11:20 am

      @Paul in KY: Yeah, but worse gun and abortion laws.

      Reply
    235. 235.

      scav

      March 10, 2023 at 11:23 am

      @Bobby Thomson: And he’s only halfway to the subway, no?  Those cars haven’t even linked up yet I thought.

      Reply
    236. 236.

      trnc

      March 10, 2023 at 11:23 am

      @WereBear:

      When the three-part Atlas Shrugged movie came out it gave me endless hours of entertainment, but it was from movie reviewers showing all their comedy chops discussing this disaster.

      With both the book and the movie(s) they couldn’t make it work in FICTION.

      From the IMDB trivia section:

      In spite of the free-market leanings of this film and its sequels, not one of them made their money back at the box office.

      Reply
    237. 237.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 11:24 am

      @OzarkHillbilly: I love NOLA! Have fun and visit Audubon Park.

      Reply
    238. 238.

      rikyrah

      March 10, 2023 at 11:26 am

      The House Minority Leader says to the GOP

       

      Take your plan out of Witness Protection😂😂😂

      https://twitter.com/RepJeffries/status/1634166907459829761?s=19

      Reply
    239. 239.

      UncleEbeneezer

      March 10, 2023 at 11:28 am

      @Betty Cracker: Wanted to share this with you, for obvious reasons:

      Jones, the nonbinary parent of two young kids, has heard some people urge families to “stay and fight,” and Jones notes that many of those people are older, or don’t have children who are directly threatened by the laws of the state. “I try to explain that this is an incredibly privileged statement, because it’s showing me that enough of your life is safe and secure that you can comfortably stay,” Jones says. “It’s a different conversation for a parent who is looking at their 13-year-old, trying to make sure that their kid stays alive.”

      In moments when she feels overwhelmed and hopeless, Wynn has sometimes wondered if the state where she grew up is still salvageable. Then she remembers how fiercely she loves Sarasota, and how much her daughter loves it, too. She thinks about the nearby beach that is almost entirely composed of quartz crystals, the sand a brilliant, luminescent white. “And then the anger comes,” she says. “Because this is a magical place, and I will not give it up. I will not be bullied out.”

      Minor isn’t leaving, either, at least not yet. Her family’s history, her relatives and her community are in Florida. She also sees DeSantis’s policies spreading to other states across the country, and she isn’t sure where exactly she would go.

      “Where is it safe to raise a Black son and a Black daughter?” she says. “I know some people are so quick to judge Florida, and sometimes it’s hard to defend. We know we’re a punchline. ‘Florida Man,’ alligators in parking lots — that’s funny, right?” She exhales. “But this is our home. We deserve to live in a place that feels comfortable and safe, and to raise our kids like everyone else.”

      Reply
    240. 240.

      kalakal

      March 10, 2023 at 11:28 am

      I like the idea of going for the Ye Olde Englishe Touriste Trappe naming

      Nether Musk

      Elon-de-la-Zouche

      Muskness

      Musk-on-the-Wold

      Lower Musk

      Musk-on-the-Moor

      Muskwick

      Reply
    241. 241.

      geg6

      March 10, 2023 at 11:30 am

      @zhena gogolia:

      Loved it.  She’s a treasure.

      Reply
    242. 242.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 11:30 am

      @geg6:

      I’m west part of the state so we go west or north, but absolutely- Pennsylvania is a free state.

      They tease me for following weather in an obsessive way but I get a big kick out of timing trips around hourly forecasts and I’m good at it :)

      There’s windows but you have to pay attention to west/east and north/south. Modern weather forecasting is amazing. I’m very grateful for it.

      Reply
    243. 243.

      Geminid

      March 10, 2023 at 11:31 am

      @rikyrah: That was pretty good. I forwarded it to a couple Democratic friends.

      Reply
    244. 244.

      zhena gogolia

      March 10, 2023 at 11:33 am

      OMG this LP video rivals Cunk:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpluUWs4KdY

      Reply
    245. 245.

      oatler

      March 10, 2023 at 11:33 am

      all I need today:

      https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/10/david-attenborough-bbc-wild-isles-episode-rightwing-backlash-fears

      Reply
    246. 246.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 11:34 am

      @kalakal:

      Muskford-upon-Avon.

      Reply
    247. 247.

      zhena gogolia

      March 10, 2023 at 11:36 am

      @Baud: Midsomer Musk

      Reply
    248. 248.

      Geminid

      March 10, 2023 at 11:37 am

      @kalakal: “The Muskings” has a touch of class. Maybe.

      Reply
    249. 249.

      Baud

      March 10, 2023 at 11:37 am

      @zhena gogolia:

      Maybe a Scottish name

      Elonburgh.

      Reply
    250. 250.

      kalakal

      March 10, 2023 at 11:38 am

      @UncleEbeneezer: That is how I feel for so many of my friends & colleagues down here. She’s exactly right. Mrs kalakal and I are old and are privileged ( though as a Librarian life could take a dark turn) old, white, cis-het, the kids are in NJ. Not the case for my friends & colleagues with kids, who are LGBTQIA, and pretty soon no doubt, pregnant. Why the fuck should they leave? Can they leave? There is so much to love about Florida and I hate the bastards who are doing their best to turn it into an authoritarian hellhole

      Reply
    251. 251.

      Mimi haha

      March 10, 2023 at 11:38 am

      @satby: Pullman is lovely, but old George felt the need to be buried under railroad ties because he thought his workers might do something to avenge what he put them through.

      Reply
    252. 252.

      catclub

      March 10, 2023 at 11:38 am

      @BruceFromOhio: ​
       

      me and a bunch of stupid assholes are going to start a community in the middle of the desert to either die or prove a very important point

      Correction: to die AND prove a very important point.

      Reply
    253. 253.

      Bill Arnold

      March 10, 2023 at 11:40 am

      @The Kropenhagen Interpretation:

      “Entertainment” is an odd term for performative outrage.

      “Neokayfabe.” Recent NYTimes opinion piece, funny:
      The Best Way to Explain the G.O.P. Is Found in the W.W.E. (Feb. 26, 2023, Abraham Josephine Riesman)

      Old kayfabe was built on the solid, flat foundation of one big lie: that wrestling was real. Neokayfabe, on the other hand, rests on a slippery, ever-wobbling jumble of truths, half-truths, and outright falsehoods, all delivered with the utmost passion and commitment. After a while, the producers and the consumers of neokayfabe tend to lose the ability to distinguish between what’s real and what isn’t. Wrestlers can become their characters; fans can become deluded obsessives who get off on arguing or total cynics who gobble it all up for the thrills, truth be damned.
      …
      I love pro wrestling, but I fear neokayfabe. It turns the world into a hall of mirrors from which it is nearly impossible to escape. It rots the mind and eats the soul. And yet, we cannot return to the world of old kayfabe, either — we know too much. Perhaps the only antidote to neokayfabe is radical honesty. It’s less fun, but it tends to do less material harm, in the long run.

      Reply
    254. 254.

      kalakal

      March 10, 2023 at 11:40 am

      Got it!

      Muskito Flats

      Reply
    255. 255.

      Bruce K in ATH-GR

      March 10, 2023 at 11:42 am

      @catclub:

      Correction: to die AND prove a very important point.

      The point one sets out to prove and the point one ends up proving are often very different points.

      Reply
    256. 256.

      geg6

      March 10, 2023 at 11:42 am

      @Betty Cracker: ​
       
      My sister and I noticed on IMdB or some site that she has another one about British history. We’re going to queue that one up next. Pump up the volume! LOL!

      Reply
    257. 257.

      kalakal

      March 10, 2023 at 11:43 am

      @Baud: Don’t forget the Welsh

      ElonLlanfairpwllgwyngyllgogery

      chwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch

      But with a Texas twang

      Reply
    258. 258.

      Kay

      March 10, 2023 at 11:46 am

      @Betty Cracker:

      I love how the ONLY corporate training the object to is DEI training. All other corporate training is apparently science-based, worthwhile and effective.

      I mean, come on! I get it- they consider it a huge imposition to talk about bias in the workplace and no one is the boss of them, but if they’re obediently trooping off to all other trainings (and they are) then we know what’s up with this.

      Just like the ONLY childrens medical issue they ever expressed any interest in is gender treatment. They’re fine with cosmetic surgery, growth hormones, crackpot religious denial of medical care, all of that. Just this ONE area triggers their love of “the children” and their weird override of the parents of these children.

      They all abandoned their intense interest in K-12 education the minute they announced the pandemic was over, too. WTF? Are public schools perfect now? What happened to all our Warriors For The Children?

      Reply
    259. 259.

      Bill Arnold

      March 10, 2023 at 11:47 am

      @zhena gogolia:

      OMG this LP video rivals Cunk:

      That is glorious. LP knows how to mock CPAC loons.

      Reply
    260. 260.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 10, 2023 at 11:55 am

      @Bill Arnold: Perhaps the only antidote to neokayfabe is radical honesty.

      This was going to be one of my themes when I run for Congress as a Socialist(!) Republican(!!?!!). Why, yes, I totally plan on laying out my personal flaws for all to see and saying vote for me anyway.

      I better get my shit together before all the rest of the ideas I had become unoriginal from a public perspective.

      Reply
    261. 261.

      EmbraceYourInnerCrone

      March 10, 2023 at 12:02 pm

      @Ceci n est pas mon nym: there is a book about Fordlandia by Greg Grandin. It’s still in print and I know it’s available on the big online booksellers.

      Reply
    262. 262.

      UncleEbeneezer

      March 10, 2023 at 12:03 pm

      @kalakal: I haven’t visited Florida in decades.  As a Bostonian child, visiting FL in the winter, I thought it was absolute paradise because it was 80 degrees and not buried in snow!  Unfortunately most of my feelings about the state since, have all revolved around politics (the 2000 Election, Trayvon Martin and the sad right-wing shift into Fascism).  But good people shouldn’t HAVE TO leave the places they love.  That said, I can totally understand why those who can, do.  And I don’t think there is any shame in that.  We don’t shame people for moving somewhere for better weather, job etc.  It seems rather ridiculous to do so for people who are prioritizing their kids’ safety and identity.

      Reply
    263. 263.

      cain

      March 10, 2023 at 12:04 pm

      @Spanky: naw, it will all be in crypto currency – millionaire today, pauper tomorrow, in debt the day after.

      Reply
    264. 264.

      scav

      March 10, 2023 at 12:05 pm

      @Kay: Further development on the holy children department, there’s a judge in Virginia who, for now, considers frozen embryos as legally chattel, capable of being sold.

      Reply
    265. 265.

      Tony G

      March 10, 2023 at 12:06 pm

      Elon noticed that “The Last of Us” teevee show, and now he wants to make his own version.

      Reply
    266. 266.

      cain

      March 10, 2023 at 12:08 pm

      @OzarkHillbilly: sounds like it should be a rotating tag!

      Reply
    267. 267.

      sdhays

      March 10, 2023 at 12:11 pm

      @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: “Rent is dirt cheap, but once a quarter the Big Man has the right to hunt you like big game for a day or two. Think of it as a team-building exercise combined with layoffs.”

      Reply
    268. 268.

      Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

      March 10, 2023 at 12:11 pm

      I’m still waiting to hear more about Glenn Beckistan, the model conservative town, and that walled city where the main job would be assembling AR-15s. Of course, I’m also waiting for the long-awaited Titanic II to show up in New York harbor

      And as a drunken Starets, I’m surprised no one mentioned Potemkin villages yet.

      Reply
    269. 269.

      Frankensteinbeck

      March 10, 2023 at 12:16 pm

      @Boris Rasputin (the evil twin): ​

      I’m surprised no one mentioned Potemkin villages yet.

      Good point. There has been a big run of ‘Throw together a superficial fake so the boss can continue thinking he’s a genius and not fire you.’ See: Metaverse, Cybertruck, that Amazon household robot nobody even remembers. Boring’s single tunnel might very well be an example of that. I wonder what the company town version would be?

      Reply
    270. 270.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 10, 2023 at 12:22 pm

      @Frankensteinbeck: I wonder what the company town version would be?

      Wasn’t there a project like this in Wisconsin recently?

      Reply
    271. 271.

      wmd

      March 10, 2023 at 12:27 pm

      Just want to drop in a interesting encounter I had this week – I met a woman that worked for Musk as a nanny for 3 1/2 years Wednesday evening. She acknowledged the evident character flaws and limited conversation – “I don’t want to get into NDA territory”. At the end of the evening we’d conversed for about 2 hours and expressed an intent to become close friends.

      Reply
    272. 272.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 10, 2023 at 12:31 pm

      @The Kropenhagen Interpretation: I think it was called Foxcon.

      Reply
    273. 273.

      Captain C

      March 10, 2023 at 12:37 pm

      @WereBear: Did we ever find out who cleaned the toilets and dealt with the trash in Galt’s Gulch?

      Reply
    274. 274.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 10, 2023 at 12:39 pm

      @Captain C: Undoubtedly some societal leeches who should consider themselves lucky to be there.

      Reply
    275. 275.

      Frankensteinbeck

      March 10, 2023 at 12:40 pm

      @Captain C: ​
      Splicers. Usually the ones with the lead pipes.

      Reply
    276. 276.

      The Kropenhagen Interpretation

      March 10, 2023 at 12:41 pm

      @Frankensteinbeck: Bioshock?

      Reply
    277. 277.

      different-church-lady

      March 10, 2023 at 12:47 pm

      @Spanky: Bears.

      Reply
    278. 278.

      different-church-lady

      March 10, 2023 at 12:58 pm

      @trnc: “I am moving the Twitter headquarters to Texas. Can you help me find a three-bedroom?”

      Reply
    279. 279.

      kalakal

      March 10, 2023 at 1:02 pm

      @UncleEbeneezer:

      That said, I can totally understand why those who can, do.  And I don’t think there is any shame in that.  We don’t shame people for moving somewhere for better weather, job etc.  It seems rather ridiculous to do so for people who are prioritizing their kids’ safety and identity.

      Absolutely there’s no shame in it.

      I’m pissed off that people are being driven out for fear of their own, or their families lives. I don’t blame them for leaving at all. I’m furious that they are being put in that position.

      Reply
    280. 280.

      different-church-lady

      March 10, 2023 at 1:04 pm

      @Matt McIrvin: That’s it; from this point forward I am referring to Texas as Hot Mars.

      Reply
    281. 281.

      H-Bob

      March 10, 2023 at 1:07 pm

      @trnc: Did both Elon and Trump get enamored with that “Don’t Worry Darling” movie?

      Reply
    282. 282.

      jimmiraybob

      March 10, 2023 at 1:13 pm

      “…Founding his own Jonestown…”

      I assume that you meant “New Apartheid Johannesburg” on the plains.  A company town that will be different from the old-style company towns.

      Reply
    283. 283.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 1:28 pm

      @prostratedragon: ‘Muskow’ is nice!

      Reply
    284. 284.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 1:29 pm

      @Baud: Who will be ‘encouraged’ to wear Musk by Musk ™ when engaging in approved relations with her assigned Muskprole III Tech.

      Reply
    285. 285.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 1:32 pm

      @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: I had a good friend and neighbor who grew up in Harlan in the 1920s (RIP Jay). He summed up the town as ‘Paint your face green. Always carry a gun and only laugh when someone dies.’

      Harlan High is the Green Dragons.

      Reply
    286. 286.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 1:33 pm

      @Geminid: Thinking like a true MOU! Would not have to pay for use. I like Muskopolis too!

      Reply
    287. 287.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 1:36 pm

      @Baud: There’s always a tradeoff…

      Reply
    288. 288.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 1:39 pm

      @kalakal: How about ‘Muskwich’? If not, that’s what he can name the chow at the canteen his proles will be using their Muskbucks at.

      Reply
    289. 289.

      Paul in KY

      March 10, 2023 at 1:42 pm

      @zhena gogolia: Yegads! I could only take so much of these weirdos smugly lying to their stupid weirdos.

      Reply
    290. 290.

      Kent

      March 10, 2023 at 2:02 pm

      Elon is building a subdivision.  In a suburb.  In Texas.  Wow.   No one has EVER thought of doing that before.  All that is missing is the Lennar sign advertising stainless appliances and granite.

      I feel so “owned” by the genius exhibited here.

      Reply
    291. 291.

      columbusqueen

      March 10, 2023 at 2:05 pm

      @Ken: There’s a book on the project titled Fordlandia. I have it but can’t remember the author’s name. Check it out on Amazon.

      Reply
    292. 292.

      Cheryl from Maryland

      March 10, 2023 at 2:33 pm

      I own my soul to the Company Store

      Reply
    293. 293.

      misterpuff

      March 10, 2023 at 2:50 pm

      @Ceci n est pas mon nym: There’s a book about it FORDLANDIA: The Rise and Fall of Henry Ford’s Forgotten Jungle City.

      Major takeaway the trees that they were tapping for the rubber raw material grows wild in the Amazon, but didn’t take well to plantation cultivation (it needed the undergrowth and Canopy that the trees planted in rows would not provide).

      Plus it was deep in the Jungle, so tough to get to and out of.

      Reply
    294. 294.

      Noskilz

      March 10, 2023 at 7:15 pm

      I suspect this is his usual announce a grandiose plan to distract from current failures. But if he is serious, I can only imagine what a disaster a company town commissioned by someone who seems to be as careless, erratic, and cheap as Musk will be.

      Reply
    295. 295.

      redoubtagain

      March 10, 2023 at 7:54 pm

      @jimmiraybob: I’ve called it “Levittown, but in Afrikaans”.

      Reply

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