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Saturday Morning Open Thread: Things *Do* Improve, Not Always Predictably…

by Anne Laurie|  March 18, 20237:27 am| 189 Comments

This post is in: Biden Administration in Action, Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

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OH MY!!!! I love this! https://t.co/6vaY3ZD4dg

— Qondi (@QondiNtini) March 17, 2023

If you told teenaged me, fifty years ago, that the Black Vice-President and her Jewish husband would be hosting Ireland’s Indian-ancestry Prime Minister and his husband for St. Paddy’s Day, I would have complimented you on your imagination.

I mean, I’d have appreciated the concept, but I’d never have believed so many pieces would click into place like that!

Heck, I’d have had some trouble believing that Biden dude would ever be more than than Irish-American Pat Paulsen…

My mom always said, "Being Irish is about faith, family, and courage."

Happy St. Patrick’s Day! pic.twitter.com/8jzsOxbODR

— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) March 17, 2023


I just discovered Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff and Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar are basically twins pic.twitter.com/OhOi4fwCHJ

— Qondi (@QondiNtini) March 17, 2023

Update: Biden’s day is extremely Irish still. pic.twitter.com/9Hx1EU7XXK

— Josh Wingrove (@josh_wingrove) March 17, 2023

A minor Friday Agreement between hostile clans, even…

McCarthy and Biden are both attending the Friends of Ireland Caucus St. Patrick’s Day Luncheon today at the Capitol. pic.twitter.com/WA8JEbKrr2

— Josh Wingrove (@josh_wingrove) March 17, 2023

Throughout my career, colleagues have kid me about quoting Irish poets all the time.

They think I do it because I’m Irish.

I do it because they’re the best poets.

This St. Patrick's Day, here's my favorite: pic.twitter.com/TmBQvsQkPs

— President Biden (@POTUS) March 17, 2023

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    1. 1.

      Baud

      March 18, 2023 at 7:29 am

      I honestly thought Biden was going to post a limerick not suitable for children.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      Narya

      March 18, 2023 at 7:31 am

      Her suit is EVERYTHING. That is all.

      well, and, the rest is cool, also too.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      Baud

      March 18, 2023 at 7:32 am

      Patrick Layton Paulsen (July 6, 1927 – April 25, 1997) was an American comedian and satirist notable for his roles on several of the Smothers Brothers television shows, and for his satirical campaigns for President of the United States between 1968 and 1996

      My kind of guy.

      Reply
    4. 4.

      NotMax

      March 18, 2023 at 7:34 am

      Who knew?

      Art Carney channeling… FDR.
      ;)

      Reply
    5. 5.

      Narya

      March 18, 2023 at 7:35 am

      I also like the playful clover in President Joe’s pocket. Playful is good.

      Reply
    6. 6.

      Ken

      March 18, 2023 at 7:37 am

      Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff and Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar are basically twins

      And a thousand conspiracy-themed bulletin boards get another photo and a half-dozen strands of yarn. Crimson yarn.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      rikyrah

      March 18, 2023 at 7:49 am

      Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊

      Reply
    8. 8.

      NotMax

      March 18, 2023 at 7:50 am

      Been some years since last saw either of them so almost watched the entertaining Irish oddity Breakfast on Pluto or else Puckoon again but demanding, insistent naptime intervened.

      Will snatch a slice o’ sleep whenever it comes. Priorities and all that.
      ;)

      Reply
    9. 9.

      rikyrah

      March 18, 2023 at 7:51 am

      Match Day at Howard University Medical School🤗🤗😍

      https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTR7b91vc/

      Reply
    10. 10.

      Baud

      March 18, 2023 at 7:52 am

      @rikyrah:

      Good morning.

      Reply
    11. 11.

      NotMax

      March 18, 2023 at 8:03 am

      Day late but what the hey. An Irish ditty signature tune Nora Bayes warbled in the Ziegfeld Follies.
      :)

      Reply
    12. 12.

      Kay

      March 18, 2023 at 8:05 am

      A conservative group opposing an effort to enshrine abortion rights into Ohio’s constitution announced Wednesday it is launching a $5 million effort to oppose the initiative.
      The group, known as Protect Women Ohio, released an ad that will run for four weeks on television and digital platforms as supporters of the constitutional amendment work to place it on the November ballot, according to a press release.
      “Moms and dads will be cut out of the most important and life-altering decisions of their child’s life, if this passes,” Molly Smith, a Protect Women Ohio board member, said in a statement, calling the proposal “dangerous.”
      “Under their proposed amendment to the Ohio constitution, the state ‘shall not interfere’ with individuals getting abortions or sex changes, meaning you could be cut out of the biggest decision decision of her life,” a narrator says in the 30-second ad.

      They’re piggybacking on the anti trans panic promoted by outlets like the NYTimes and by several supposed “liberals” like Jonathon Chait. They did the same thing in Michigan in ’22- it got little or no media coverage but I was in Michigan a lot and the anti abortion campaign was actually an anti trans campaign. They lost big in Michigan- it didn’t carry a single candidate or issue – no one actually votes on “woke” – so here’s hoping they also lose big in the much more Republican state of Ohio.
      The print ads in Michigan were amusing. So far up the ass of the Twitter- based, elite media, anti woke, anti trans crusaders that I bet it was completely unintelligible to an ordinary voter. It took me seeing it over to even understand what they were screeching about and I’m in no way a normie voter.

      The pro choice message is pretty simple. We don’t want far Right politicians and religious fundamentalists (or their judges) barging into our bedrooms and examining rooms and hospital rooms. We want them to back the fuck off. We don’t have to lie to oppose them.
      I’ve worked on Ohio issue campaigns before. It’s fun and rewarding especially with such a good issue where the anti choice side = anti trans crusaders because they can’t actually run on being anti choice (unpopular). We’ll need a lot of volunteers. Two birds with one stone! You can beat anti trans crasaders AND anti choice crusaders with one vote! Very efficient! :)

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      Steeplejack

      March 18, 2023 at 8:05 am

      @rikyrah, @Baud:

      Good morning! 🙏

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      Baud

      March 18, 2023 at 8:12 am

      @Kay:

      Under their proposed amendment to the Ohio constitution, the state ‘shall not interfere’ with individuals getting abortions or sex changes, meaning you could be cut out of the biggest decision decision of her life,” a narrator says in the 30-second ad.

       
      L’etat, c’est toi.

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      Another Scott

      March 18, 2023 at 8:17 am

      @Kay: Yup.  They’ve drunk so much of their own Kool Aid that they think that it’s normal and good for a giant humanoid drink pitcher to break down people’s houses…

      lolgop
      @[email protected]

      On one hand, we have the guys who want to check your kids’ genitals, track their menstrual cycles & force them to give birth after rape.

      On the other hand, we have the fabulous queens who want to read your kids stories.

      Guess who Republicans want you to be terrified of.

      Mar 17, 2023, 20:49

      Cheers,
      Scott.

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    16. 16.

      NotMax

      March 18, 2023 at 8:21 am

      @Another Scott

      Quasi-obligatory?

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    17. 17.

      Kay

      March 18, 2023 at 8:27 am

      @Another Scott:

      The lack of major media attention or investment in covering abortion and womens agency and rights may be a plus in these ballot iniatives- they would just fuck it up. They were caught out with the first set in 2022 – didn’t cover them at all- because they had already announced that no one cared about womens rights and would not come out for them and I don’t think it made a bit of difference in the public understanding of the issue. Media can not bother to show up again. Won’t make a bit of difference if they’re working or not.

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    18. 18.

      Another Scott

      March 18, 2023 at 8:31 am

      @NotMax: +1

      But I was thinking more of things like this (2:51) – for the youngsters who never had onions on their belt like us. :⁠-⁠)

      Cheers,
      Scott.

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      Baud

      March 18, 2023 at 8:33 am

      @Kay:

      “In this Ohio diner, support for abortion rights outweighed by concerns over creeping wokeism.”

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      Kay

      March 18, 2023 at 8:35 am

      Have any of the free speech crusaders weighed in on the fact that American women can no longer have a private consult with a medical provider without (gross) GOP politicians and religious fundamentalists barging into the examining room, drowning her out?

      Just super interesting to me which speech matters. Seems to depend wholly on the speaker- anti abortion activists may screech and make demands on individuals who are minding their own business and butt in anywhere they want, women receiving medical care must meekly and silently submit. Federal judges must receive complete deference and must not be questioned, law students can be shut down by law school management.

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    21. 21.

      Gin & Tonic

      March 18, 2023 at 8:36 am

      @Baud: Todays challenge: use the word “Nantucket” in a G-rated limerick.

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      Kay

      March 18, 2023 at 8:40 am

      @Baud:

      The ultra liberal states of….Michigan and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin rejected the anti woke, anti trans Twitter/NYTimes/Substack crusaders so now they’re peddling the same shit they’ve been screaming about for 4 years in a redder state, Ohio. Maybe they can sell it here. Who knows. But they’re going to have to work at it this time.

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    23. 23.

      Kay

      March 18, 2023 at 8:45 am

      More Perfect Union
      @MorePerfectUS
      ·16h
      Minnesota Governor Tim Walz has signed a law guaranteeing free breakfast and lunch for all students in the state, regardless of how much money their parents make. Tens of thousands of food-insecure kids will benefit.

      Some of the blue/purple state governors and legislatures have been really delivering: Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, Illinois. They’re outworking a lot of the “bluer” states on the east coast.

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    24. 24.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      March 18, 2023 at 8:45 am

      Biden is absolutely right about Irish poets.

      It’s interesting how you get these outbursts of talent in the same place at the same time: Elizabethan theater, early 20th century Irish writers, scientists in various specialties.

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    25. 25.

      Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

      March 18, 2023 at 8:47 am

      @Gin & Tonic:

      There once was a man from Nantucket

      A genius who created a “duck kit”

      With a bill on his chin he looked up and grinned

      If my tongue was a point,  I’d duck spit

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    26. 26.

      Ripley

      March 18, 2023 at 8:48 am

      @Gin & Tonic:
      There once was a man from Nantucket
      Whose foot got quite stuck in a bucket
      He was heard to declare
      As he fell down the stairs
      AAAaaiieieegghhhh!!!!

      Reply
    27. 27.

      Skepticat

      March 18, 2023 at 8:50 am

      It’s encouraging to see stable leaders with genuine smiles.

      But just when I think Maine might be an enclave of mostly sane people, we get L.D. 123, An Act to Eliminate the Educational Purposes Exception to the Prohibition on the Dissemination of Obscene Matter to Minors.                According to a letter to the Press Herald, “L.D. 123 criminalizes librarianship and subjects our communities to costly lawsuits over anything that might be considered ‘obscene,’ from classic literature to an anatomy textbook.”

      I know obscenity when I see it, and this bill is it.

      Reply
    28. 28.

      mrmoshpotato

      March 18, 2023 at 8:51 am

      @Another Scott: OMG oh yeah!

      Reply
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      Baud

      March 18, 2023 at 8:53 am

      @Kay:

      Dare I hope it breaks through to people that the parties are not the same.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      Kay

      March 18, 2023 at 8:57 am

      I don’t think women are moving forward in the US. I don’t think it’s zero sum and I don’t think everyone else has to step back in order for women to move forward, but I also am not willing to pretend that a loss of basic bodily autonomy and agency for women in the US is somehow “progress”. It just isn’t. Women are going backward in the United States. In about half the states they have a lesser set of rights than men do. Women could start moving forward in the US again- it’s possible- but not if no one will admit they are now moving backward. I don’t understand the reluctance to admit it, or even look at it honestly. It’s already happened. What’s the point of pretending it didn’t?

      Reply
    31. 31.

      Lapassionara

      March 18, 2023 at 9:05 am

      So, word from Trump is that he is getting arrested on Tuesday, or so I hear. Manhattan DA.

      Reply
    32. 32.

      Kay

      March 18, 2023 at 9:06 am

      Right now, today, in the United States, a single far Right federal judge will decide whether any American adult woman amy access a certain prescription medication that is legal, safe and effective.

      The judge may say “no”. He may forbid ALL women in the US from that medication, whether they live in a state that has a full set of rights for women or a state that has a lesser set of rights for women. ALL women will be barred.

      Backwards. A lurch backwards.

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      March 18, 2023 at 9:07 am

      @Lapassionara: I just saw the Trump tweet more or less announcing that. I couldn’t read it. I mean, physically, I couldn’t. It’s free-flow gibberish to start with, so your brain freezes. And it’s all caps, which makes it impossible to see where sentences start and stop. Assuming there are sentences, of course. I have no idea

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    34. 34.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      March 18, 2023 at 9:10 am

      @Kay: We may need civil disobedience against these discriminatory laws. Of course, that’s easy for me to say. I’m not a pharmacist or doctor or pregnant woman who’d be risking arrest

      Reply
    35. 35.

      Lapassionara

      March 18, 2023 at 9:10 am

      @Baud: not only are they not the same, one party has gone completely to the right, so far right that it is adopting totalitarian government principles, all in the name of “freedom.” It is a danger to our economy, our standing in the world, and, as Kay points out, women’s lives.

      Reply
    36. 36.

      Cheryl from Maryland

      March 18, 2023 at 9:10 am

      @Baud: Notice it’s “her life.”  What a giveaway.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      NotMax

      March 18, 2023 at 9:20 am

      @Another Scott

      If it weren’t from so long ago I’d swear the singing voice of the anthropomorphic pitcher was dubbed by Harvey Fierstein.
      ;)

      Reply
    38. 38.

      Suzanne

      March 18, 2023 at 9:20 am

      @Narya: OMG her suit is FABULOUS. I love that color. I try to buy things in that color for myself, but they are difficult to find. I feel lit’s more flattering to my skin tone than navy blue.

      I am starting to plan a road trip up to Mass for the Brimfield Antiques Flea Market thing. I hear it is awesome. If anyone has ever gone, I would love some pointers, especially regarding where to stay. I am primarily looking for art — coming from an open-concept 1980s builders-grade home to a 1920s foursquare means that I now have a lot more wall space. Also open to (a few) decorative objects, though I am not too much of a clutter person.

      Reply
    39. 39.

      TS

      March 18, 2023 at 9:22 am

      @Kay:

       Protect Women Ohio

      Their first lie is in the names they give their groups – this one almost as bad as pro-life for those who only care about life before birth

      Just saw this in our news

      Wyoming Governor Mark Gordon has signed a bill prohibiting abortion pills in the state and also allowed a separate measure restricting abortion to become law without his signature. 

      I am at a complete loss to understand why any women support these measures or continue to vote for men imposing their will in this fashion. It is taking women back to 18 kids and die at 40.

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    40. 40.

      Baud

      March 18, 2023 at 9:23 am

      @TS:

      I am at a complete loss to understand why any women support these measures or continue to vote for men imposing their will in this fashion

       
      A lot of black people support Democrats.

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      prostratedragon

      March 18, 2023 at 9:26 am

      @Gin & Tonic:
      There once was a man from Nantucket
      Whose fielding was like Kirby Puckett.
      He chased down all flies
      To disbelieving eyes.
      If one could get by him was luck it.

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    42. 42.

      Suzanne

      March 18, 2023 at 9:26 am

      @TS:

      I am at a complete loss to understand why any women support these measures or continue to vote for men imposing their will in this fashion. It is taking women back to 18 kids and die at 40. 

      Lots of people lack the imagination to think that something bad will ever happen to them.

      It’s a really fucked-up way of thinking, because bad things happen to people all the time.

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    43. 43.

      Suzanne

      March 18, 2023 at 9:28 am

      @Lapassionara:

      So, word from Trump is that he is getting arrested on Tuesday, or so I hear. 

      I’m going to Costco this afternoon; will buy popcorn.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      Joey Maloney

      March 18, 2023 at 9:28 am

      My favorite quote of Pat Paulsen’s: “I’ve upped my standards. Now, up yours!”

      Reply
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      TS

      March 18, 2023 at 9:32 am

      @Baud:

      A lot of black people support Democrats.

      And because of that, too many vote for the GOP – I understand that.

      I also think that those with wealth realise they can just pop over to one of the states that support women’s choices so they really don’t care what happens to anyone else.

      We have spent the past few years legalising abortion throughout all Australian states (without previous pretexts of needing multiple doctor’s opinions) and it is frightening to see this legislation could so easily be changed.

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    46. 46.

      prostratedragon

      March 18, 2023 at 9:34 am

      The only hospital in Sandpoint, ID will no longer provide obstetrical services.

      Reply
    47. 47.

      Dr. Jakyll and Miss Deride

      March 18, 2023 at 9:35 am

      @Gin & Tonic:

      To come up with clean rhymes for Nantucket

      Was a challenge, but I could not duck it;

      First I soared through the breeze

      With the greatest of ease,

      Then I went for the landing and stuck it.

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    48. 48.

      Amir Khalid

      March 18, 2023 at 9:35 am

      @Joey Maloney:

      “Make 7-Up yours!” — Orlando Jones, in an actual soft-drink campaign from the 1990s

      Reply
    49. 49.

      Gin & Tonic

      March 18, 2023 at 9:36 am

      @Suzanne: You’re planning on the May session? (The July one is usually really hot.)

      Brimfield is kind of the middle of nowhere. If you’re coming from the west, you’ll find plenty of options around Springfield. I’d even suggest finding a nice place in the Berkshires (Lenox, Lee, Pittsfield), although you’ll be an hour away.

      Wear comfortable shoes, there’s a lot of walking involved.

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      NotMax

      March 18, 2023 at 9:36 am

      @Gin & Tonic

      Nantucket’s a town in the Bay State
      Where most of the seafood is first-rate
      Bypass the oyster bar
      When a month has no R
      Else the outcome is far from sedate

      Reply
    51. 51.

      Gin & Tonic

      March 18, 2023 at 9:37 am

      @Dr. Jakyll and Miss Deride: Solid, solid effort. Honorable mention to the others upthread.

      Reply
    52. 52.

      Layer8Problem

      March 18, 2023 at 9:40 am

      The frickin’ Wikipedia article left out Pat Paulsen’s episode of The Monkees. I’m appalled. But I learned he was on The Wild Wild West and Get Smart too, which I should have known, so I learned something.  Always try to learn something every day.

      Reply
    53. 53.

      frosty

      March 18, 2023 at 9:42 am

      @Dr. Jakyll and Miss Deride: Kudos! So far you’re the winner. I like the metaphor in the last three lines.

      Reply
    54. 54.

      prostratedragon

      March 18, 2023 at 9:42 am

      @prostratedragon:  Make those eyes “incredulous.”

      Reply
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      Suzanne

      March 18, 2023 at 9:43 am

      @Gin & Tonic: Yes, planning on May. I am very much looking forward to it. Arizona was relatively unpopulated until 1950-ish, so it doesn’t have the same critical mass of antique and cool old things. I have been enjoying the stuff I find here in PGH.

      What are the price points like? More low-end ephemera stuff, or high-end?

      Reply
    56. 56.

      Kay

      March 18, 2023 at 9:46 am

      @Dorothy A. Winsor:

       I’m not a pharmacist or doctor or pregnant woman who’d be risking arrest

      “Arrest” isn’t the ony issue. Antichoice religious fundamentalists are suing anyone who assists a woman. It’s an attempt to silence women and scare them into sitting down and shutting up. They’re sending a message – “oppose us and we will drag you into court and ruin your life”
      Women in Texas are the property of the men who impregnate them and the state, even if the legal relationship bestowed by marriage no longer exists. This could happen to any woman in the US. Living in a “blue state” provides no protection, just as living n a blue state will provide no protection from far Right federal judges outlawing medications or standard “best practices”medical care for women.

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    57. 57.

      frosty

      March 18, 2023 at 9:47 am

      @NotMax: A wise choice, not rhyming Nantucket, but it still needs work on the rhythm. see Suibhan Duinne* for pointers.

      * I see why everyone types Suburu Diane now. Less hassle from autocorrect. Plus spelled right.

      Reply
    58. 58.

      kalakal

      March 18, 2023 at 9:50 am

      @rikyrah: Good morning!

      Reply
    59. 59.

      Gin & Tonic

      March 18, 2023 at 9:52 am

      @Suzanne: Wow, wrote a long-ish reply and it went “poof.” Anyway, prices run the gamut. Lots of NYC people come up, so it’s not always the bargain you’d think. But I don’t know much about this stuff – my DIL is a legitimate design/furniture expert, I’m along for the ride.

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    60. 60.

      Raoul Paste

      March 18, 2023 at 9:53 am

      Nan and Jill went up the hill
      To fetch a pail of water
      But the water-well was dry
      And Jill said bye-bye
      And as for the bucket, Nantucket

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    61. 61.

      NotMax

      March 18, 2023 at 9:53 am

      @Layer8Problem

      Recently came across what can only be described as a post-mondegreen and now can’t stop hearing the end of the theme song from The Monkees that way.

      We’re just tryin’ to be friendly
      Come and watch us sing and play
      We’re the young generation
      And we got Saddam Hussein
      ;)

      Reply
    62. 62.

      Another Scott

      March 18, 2023 at 9:55 am

      @Gin & Tonic:

      There once was a klutz from Nantucket

      Whose head got stuck in a bucket.

      “Next time I think,

      I’ll try fixing a sink!”

      He no longer wears shirts from UNTUCKit

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    63. 63.

      Kay

      March 18, 2023 at 9:56 am

      Sam Joeckel walked into his office last week to find his phone and computer gone from his desk.
      “My first instinct was to think someone broke into my office and actually stole my stuff. I calmed down a little bit and figured this must mean that the university has made a decision without telling me,” he told the South Florida Sun Sentinel on Thursday.
      Joeckel, a veteran English professor at Palm Beach Atlantic University, lost his job after a parent complained on Feb. 14 to the university president about a racial justice segment he taught in his composition course. What the complaint said specifically, Joeckel still doesn’t know, other than it was alleged he was “indoctrinating” students.

      Fired because a Right wing parent alleged he was “woke”
      I’d say let’s see if the tens of elite antiwokesters with huge media platforms are concerned about the cancellng of this guy, but I already know the answer- we won’t hear a peep out of them because they are frauds and phonies.

      Reply
    64. 64.

      Suzanne

      March 18, 2023 at 10:00 am

      @Gin & Tonic: Cool, thank you. I figure, even if I don’t buy a lot, I’ll enjoy the hunt. I enjoy my small-but-growing art collection. And, in this house, I actually have a mantel! So now I need cool stuff on it.

      Reply
    65. 65.

      Baud

      March 18, 2023 at 10:01 am

      @Kay:

      Canceling people is a negative.

      Being woke is a negative.

      When woke people are cancelled, it’s a positive.

      It’s just math, Kay.

      Reply
    66. 66.

      MomSense

      March 18, 2023 at 10:03 am

      Had an amazing day at the swamp.  I didn’t see any of my beloved ibis but I did see three kinds of warblers, a swallow tailed kite circled over us, two red breasted hawks flew over us onto a branch next to us, a barred owl, egrets, anhingas (including watching one hatch!!!) and then alligators.  Typically I’ve  only seen them just chilling l, but yesterday one of them swam into the swamp we were observing.  He then went under the water and swam across the swamp. He came up turned, went back under, and then leaped out of the water jaws open with a fish!  The splash he made was incredible, too. Poor guy next to me had a major camera set up and he was snapping away.  After the leap he said “that was the shot of a lifetime and I didn’t get it”. Alligators are magnificent and terrifying creatures.

      We had plans for another excursion today but my dad is too tired.

      Reply
    67. 67.

      NotMax

      March 18, 2023 at 10:05 am

      @frosty

      The problem with rhyming Nantucket
      With anything other than bucket
      Is much of the prose
      Would shock a bluenose
      The upshot is mostly “Nope, chuck it.”
      .

      Reply
    68. 68.

      kalakal

      March 18, 2023 at 10:12 am

      Interesting  article on some of the other jurors on the Georgia grand jury after all the heat and no light spread by foreperson the other week

      Charging Trump?

      Reply
    69. 69.

      Another Scott

      March 18, 2023 at 10:13 am

      @Kay:

      PBA.edu – FAQ:

      Does PBA offer tenure?

      PBA does not offer tenure; all beginning faculty sign a one-year letter of agreement. After several years of service, faculty may enter an application process in order to receive two- and then three-year letters of agreement, which upon on-going exemplary service, automatically roll-over.

      Interview with him from yesterday (50:27)

      Lack of tenure is a red flag. It invites all sorts of interference with teaching and research. And that’s why RWNJs are fighting so hard to eliminate it.

      This is horrible.

      But the big picture is important as well – Politicians interfering with education instruction is bad, full stop.

      Keep politicians out of the classroom!

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    70. 70.

      WaterGirl

      March 18, 2023 at 10:15 am

      @Kay: Besides the people who are fight against women having agency over their lives and their bodies, who thinks things are not moving backwards for women?

      Reply
    71. 71.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      March 18, 2023 at 10:15 am

      Garrett Haake @GarrettHaake
      New: Former President Trump responds to reports, including first by @jonathan4ny, that NYC law enforcement agencies are preparing for possibility of his indictment there next week. He calls for protests if he is arrested.

      Reply
    72. 72.

      Kristine

      March 18, 2023 at 10:15 am

      @Gin & Tonic:

      There was a young man from Nantucket
      Who bought a new shirt so to tuck it
      But the tail was so long
      It dragged like a sarong
      So he carried it with in a bucket

      Reply
    73. 73.

      laura

      March 18, 2023 at 10:16 am

      @Baud: Pat Paulson’s brother Fred makes and sells the best, The Hotest, fresh horseradish you can get. It’s called Fred’s. Those Paulson boys each added to life’s rich pageant.

      Reply
    74. 74.

      John Barleycorn

      March 18, 2023 at 10:17 am

      There was a young cook from Nantucket
      Who’s meal was so poor that we chuck’d it
      To improve the taste
      And reduce the waste
      You take the corn cob and you shuck it

      Reply
    75. 75.

      Betty Cracker

      March 18, 2023 at 10:20 am

      Repubs are backing away from a South Carolina bill that proposed charging women who have abortions with murder. Looks like that’s still a bridge too far for them, at least for now. Nine Repubs who’d signed on took their names off it.

      Reply
    76. 76.

      FastEdD

      March 18, 2023 at 10:21 am

      My colleague Matt was one of my students in Summer School, and many years later he was a fellow teacher at CMHS. He still works there and we’ve been friends for 40 years. Performed in bands together too.

      He told me the story about one kid who kept wearing T Shirts with cuss words on them. Matt’s been known to use a few f bombs when appropriate, but as an educator he responsibly told the kid he couldn’t do that and to wear it backwards. One day the kid showed up to school proudly sporting his new shirt that read:

      THE MAN FROM NANTUCKET

      Matt just laughed and laughed and told the kid, “You win. Nice shirt!”

      Reply
    77. 77.

      WaterGirl

      March 18, 2023 at 10:21 am

      @Gin & Tonic: Not in Pending, SPAM, or Trash.  Very strange.

      Reply
    78. 78.

      Layer8Problem

      March 18, 2023 at 10:24 am

      @NotMax:  Jesus, you’re right, I’m hearing it now!

      Reply
    79. 79.

      zhena gogolia

      March 18, 2023 at 10:25 am

      @NotMax: So cool! I didn’t know he was from Mount Vernon.

      Reply
    80. 80.

      opiejeanne

      March 18, 2023 at 10:27 am

      @Kay: I read last night that Wyoming’s state lege had voted to outlaw abortion pills.  This seems to have flown under the radar and there’s barely a peep about it today.

      Reply
    81. 81.

      opiejeanne

      March 18, 2023 at 10:36 am

      @prostratedragon: Washington state is seeing a lot of women coming from other states in order to get health care including abortions, mostly from Texas but especially from Idaho because it’s next door.

      Reply
    82. 82.

      opiejeanne

      March 18, 2023 at 10:37 am

      @opiejeanne: I see that Kay has mentioned it now. It didn’t fly under her radar.

      Reply
    83. 83.

      Geminid

      March 18, 2023 at 10:44 am

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist: The Orange Churl will take his victim act to Waco, Texas next Saturday, March 25th. He’ll stage his first campaign rally of the year at the Waco Regional Airport.

      Reply
    84. 84.

      Omnes Omnibus

      March 18, 2023 at 10:46 am

      @Geminid: Maybe.  OTOH, he might be otherwise occupied.

      Reply
    85. 85.

      Layer8Problem

      March 18, 2023 at 10:46 am

      @Geminid:  Well, I think he’s a flight risk, but DA’s offices and judges never listen to me.

      Reply
    86. 86.

      sdhays

      March 18, 2023 at 10:47 am

      @TS:

      I also think that those with wealth realise they can just pop over to one of the states that support women’s choices so they really don’t care what happens to anyone else.

      This idea is insidious and also really lacks imagination. If you have a medical crisis, you don’t have time to get on a fucking plane to fly 1000 miles to get the basic care you need before you bleed out/develop a life-threatening infection/etc.

      All of my life “abortion” has been bandied about like it’s something on a menu, as if “elective” abortion is the only thing that happens. But it’s not. Lots of abortions happen to people who want to be pregnant and have children but things don’t work out. Now, their “choice” is to flee their state if they have the means or fucking die.

      Reply
    87. 87.

      RR_Mikey

      March 18, 2023 at 10:51 am

      Posts like this about a celebration day at the White House are so uplifting.  There was never anything like this during the reign of the blob.

      Reply
    88. 88.

      dmsilev

      March 18, 2023 at 10:51 am

      So, if Trump is offered bail, will the courts insist on having the cash put in escrow or something, given his long history of nonpayment of debts?

      Reply
    89. 89.

      Geminid

      March 18, 2023 at 10:52 am

      @Omnes Omnibus: I’m guessing Trump will make bail for these charges. I mean, I’d like to see him spend a few months in the Riker’s Island jail, but I expect he’ll be free to harangue his followers next Saturday..

      Reply
    90. 90.

      Spanky

      March 18, 2023 at 10:56 am

      @Baud: Is this too long for a rotating tag?

      Reply
    91. 91.

      zhena gogolia

      March 18, 2023 at 10:57 am

      @RR_Mikey: I agree.

      Reply
    92. 92.

      Omnes Omnibus

      March 18, 2023 at 10:57 am

      @Geminid: Sure, but that spoils the joke.

      Reply
    93. 93.

      Sure Lurkalot

      March 18, 2023 at 11:01 am

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

      He calls for protests if he is arrested.

      He’s calling for violence…”take our nation back”…same words as when he incited an insurrection. The Soros dog whistle. It’s ridiculous that our media won’t report what his words mean.

      Reply
    94. 94.

      zhena gogolia

      March 18, 2023 at 11:02 am

      RIP Dubravka Ugrešić.

      Reply
    95. 95.

      Spanky

      March 18, 2023 at 11:02 am

      @Suzanne: Never been, but I know people who hunt rusty iron there, so can’t help on the art. But as G&T says, there is much walking, and pray for rainless days in those fields.

      And prepare to carry purchases long ways back to the car. I.e., take a husband.

      Reply
    96. 96.

      Amir Khalid

      March 18, 2023 at 11:02 am

      @dmsilev:

      It will be interesting if TFG becomes the first ex-POTUS to jump bail.

      Reply
    97. 97.

      PAM Dirac

      March 18, 2023 at 11:03 am

      There once was a girl from Nantucket

      Who carried her wares in a bucket

      Nothing that was bought

      Evoked impure thought

      So all you low class pervs can suck it.

      Reply
    98. 98.

      Geminid

      March 18, 2023 at 11:06 am

      @Omnes Omnibus: Well, the joke flew right by me. I am just a simple meteor.

      But now I’m hoping for bad weather for the rally, maybe a hail storm. And tornado watches.

      Reply
    99. 99.

      Baud

      March 18, 2023 at 11:06 am

      @PAM Dirac: Winner.

      Reply
    100. 100.

      Ceci n est pas mon nym

      March 18, 2023 at 11:09 am

      @Geminid: I did hear somebody say that the standard procedure would be for him to be held in a cell after fingerprinting and mug shots, while waiting to see the judge. But even a couple of hours would probably be too much to hope for.

      I’m going to take my satisfaction from the fact that he’ll be processed at 100 Centre Street, where my daughter and I spent 72 hours in 2004 at the behest of Michael Bloomberg and the RNC (me outside in various courtrooms, her inside somewhere in a holding area with hundreds of others).

      She went to check out the protests at the RNC and was watching one of them start to assemble in lower Manhattan when the police put up a fence around the crowd of 2000 or so, arrested them, and held them in a cell without a hearing, without doctors, without access to lawyers, and without charges until George W began his speech 3 days later, at which point they unceremoniously dumped them all out the back door of the courthouse.

      Reply
    101. 101.

      Spanky

      March 18, 2023 at 11:10 am

      @Suzanne: You might consider a dry run closer (somewhat) to home – Renninger’s Kutztown Antique and Collector’s Extravaganza on April 28-29. Not nearly the scale or reputation of Brimfield, but Eastern PA will cough up some good stuff.

      Reply
    102. 102.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      March 18, 2023 at 11:11 am

      @Geminid: You made me look. High of 75 and mostly sunny. I was a little surprised he wasn’t going to Iowa, but I’m sure he’s waiting for the weather to grow more clement.

      I wonder if Stephen Miller had to explain why Waco or if the penny dropped right away

      Reply
    103. 103.

      James E Powell

      March 18, 2023 at 11:16 am

      @Kay:

      Naturally every professor in Florida & all the first amendment anti-cancel culture people have rallied to this person’s defense.

      Reply
    104. 104.

      Burnspbesq

      March 18, 2023 at 11:17 am

      Taoiseach Leo is a little conservative for my taste, but as a symbol of an increasingly pluralistic and inclusive Ireland, he’ll do just fine.

      Reply
    105. 105.

      Orange is the New Red

      March 18, 2023 at 11:17 am

      @Suzanne: I have been going to Brimfield for 20 years or more. Lived next town over for 10 years. Happy to give pointers. There is good basic info online as well. I suspect local hotels raise prices those weeks, get what you can as soon as you can.

      Reply
    106. 106.

      Geminid

      March 18, 2023 at 11:18 am

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist: A good weather forecast? Darn!

      The airport is right next to Waco Lake. I was hoping for a rain of frogs and catfish.

      Reply
    107. 107.

      LiminalOwl

      March 18, 2023 at 11:21 am

      @Skepticat:

      @Kay: Have you seen this lovely bit of self-contradiction? Teachers cannot discuss reproductive anatomy with children of less than seventh-grade age.  (Per The Mary Sue blog; I haven’t yet found a primary-source article.) Someone asked one of the pols if that meant that one of the (many) girls reaching menarche  could not ask her teachers for info, and was told yes.  Though it sounds like they might generously make an exception for that case.

      Reply
    108. 108.

      lollipopguild

      March 18, 2023 at 11:22 am

      @PAM Dirac: Winner, Winner, chicken dinner.

      Reply
    109. 109.

      LiminalOwl

      March 18, 2023 at 11:24 am

      @Suzanne: Haven’t stopped there, but the time spouse and I drove through (because GPS), it was a ten-mile traffic jam.  You might want to plan accordingly.

      (Also, we are less than an hour away, if you’d like to meet for tea or a meal.)

      I agree about dark green and wish clothes in that shade were easier to find.

      Reply
    110. 110.

      MomSense

      March 18, 2023 at 11:31 am

      Welp, I was actually going to brave the pool today (not a pool person) but it’s closed.  The red tide is bad and I don’t feel like swimming with dead fish, jelly fish and something that makes your eyes burn just walking by.  With all the multi million dollar homes on the beach here you would think they would have an interest in taking better care of their oceans. WTAF

      Reply
    111. 111.

      Mai Naem mobile

      March 18, 2023 at 11:35 am

      @Amir Khalid: more like the first ex-POTUS to post bail.

      I frankly think the media should stop reporting about all the preparations for a TFG indictment for security reasons. I am pretty sure NY’rs are smart enough to not put themselves in danger when he does get indicted. They’ve had enough practice with all the terrorist threats, UN meetings, TFG visiting there between ’16-’20 etc. All this reporting just eggs on the MAGAts and let’s out details nobody needs to know. Yeah, i know about the ‘it bleeds, it leads’  stuff but lots of these media people live in NYC. Don’t they even care about where they live?

      Reply
    112. 112.

      dnfree

      March 18, 2023 at 11:36 am

      @Baud: I didn’t realize Pat Paulson died so young.  He had great campaign slogans.  “We can’t stand Pat”, for example.

      Reply
    113. 113.

      Jim, Foolish Literalist

      March 18, 2023 at 11:36 am

      Now and forever and always, His Kevin

      Kevin McCarthy @SpeakerMcCarthy

      Here we go again — an outrageous abuse of power by a radical DA who lets violent criminals walk as he pursues political vengeance against President Trump.

      I’m directing relevant committees to immediately investigate if federal funds are being used to subvert our democracy by interfering in elections with politically motivated prosecutions.

      Reply
    114. 114.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 11:37 am

      Kevin McCarthy on Twitter this AM:

      “Here we go again — an outrageous abuse of power by a radical DA who lets violent criminals walk as he pursues political vengeance against President Trump. I’m directing relevant committees to immediately investigate if federal funds are being used to subvert our democracy by interfering in elections with politically motivated prosecutions.”

      Reply
    115. 115.

      SiubhanDuinne

      March 18, 2023 at 11:37 am

      @LiminalOwl:

      WaPo covered this story yesterday. Here’s a non-paywalled (gift) link.

      Reply
    116. 116.

      Mai Naem mobile

      March 18, 2023 at 11:39 am

      @Kay: that judge is going to release the decision right when the TFG stuff goes down in the hope that it gets forgotten and he’ll probably be right because the political media can only pay attention to one major issue at a time.

      Reply
    117. 117.

      Another Scott

      March 18, 2023 at 11:45 am

      @LiminalOwl: We can’t let Bulgaria or Nigeria beat the USA in the teenage grandmother competition!!

      “@official_EMMYJ: The world’s youngest grandmother is Nigerian, and she was only 17. Mum-Zi was just eight years and four months old when she gave birth to a baby girl in 1884. From Nigeria, on an island called Akwa Akpa, now known as the city of Calabar. @Gidi_Traffic pic.twitter.com/1XDbBKZ5fA

      — GIDI (@Gidi_Traffic) October 7, 2021

      :-(

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    118. 118.

      Mai Naem mobile

      March 18, 2023 at 11:46 am

      @Quinerly: Kevin needs to just go back to picking out the pink Starbursts(or was it skittles?) to send to his Orange Overlord. Really, he’s more useful doing that.

      Reply
    119. 119.

      sdhays

      March 18, 2023 at 11:46 am

      @Mai Naem mobile: The national political media doesn’t need much help to forget to report about women’s health and rights.

      Reply
    120. 120.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 11:47 am

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

      Great minds…..

      I’m listening to MSNBC. Had to Google to find the Tweet.

      I have no idea how all this ends. I woke up thinking maybe we would be better off as a country if Trump flees. Don’t get me wrong. I want him prosecuted on all levels. I am just so weary. How one man…a fucking low class, bankrupt, degenerate, game show host can destroy a country….what he has unleashed on this country. My mind still has a problem processing this.

      Had hoped today to get back to my beautiful side yard…a work in progress with these new flagstones and JoJo’s turf. 5 tons of sand was delivered Tues. But 6 inches of snow dumped on me here outside of Santa Fe. Now I’m stuck inside with MSNBC on in the background.

      Reply
    121. 121.

      Geminid

      March 18, 2023 at 11:47 am

      @Quinerly: Did you get snow at your place? I read that four hikers had to be rescued from the Sandia Mountans yesterday. They’d come all the way from Michigan to hike the La Luz trail

      Ed. Now I see you did get snow. I guess it will melt fast. It could make for more wildflowers in coming weeks

      Are you placing the flag stones? That can be fun if you don’t do too much at once.

      Reply
    122. 122.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 11:48 am

      @Mai Naem mobile:

      Thanks for the laugh. I think it was Starbursts.

      Reply
    123. 123.

      sdhays

      March 18, 2023 at 11:48 am

      @Another Scott: OMG, that’s so disgusting! Grandmother at 17!!??

      Reply
    124. 124.

      Mai Naem mobile

      March 18, 2023 at 11:49 am

      @Another Scott: i don’t believe that. Also its disgusting and child abuse even by 1884 standards.

      Reply
    125. 125.

      sdhays

      March 18, 2023 at 11:52 am

      @Quinerly: The country needs to pop the bubble on the idea that Presidents can’t – and shouldn’t – be prosecuted. It’s a very toxic idea. Ex-Presidents and Presidential candidates shouldn’t have get-out-jail cards, and future Presidents and candidates should be given evidence that they can’t count on that “rule” anymore.

      I suspect we wouldn’t be here if Ford hadn’t pardoned Nixon and allowed the country to “suffer” through a prosecution.

      Reply
    126. 126.

      Jackie

      March 18, 2023 at 11:52 am

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist: MTG already squawked in protest this morning – McCarthy is obeying her demands for *justice.* He is so pathetically predictable.

      Reply
    127. 127.

      dmsilev

      March 18, 2023 at 11:52 am

      @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’m sure the ace investigatory team of Jim Jordan and Marjorie Greene will get to the bottom of this, no problems at all.

      Reply
    128. 128.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 11:55 am

      @Geminid:

      Pretty sure biggest snow of the season. My friends out on highway 14 in Cerrillos and Madrid got 8″. We got about 5″ here in Eldorado. Pecos got more.

      Miguel and I were going to hit the yard hard today and tomorrow. He can only work on weekends. I had 21 railroad ties and rebar coming yesterday but couldn’t deliver because of the snow. Now everything pushed back at least a week. He can only work next Sun.

      I’m impatient to put down 3 pallets of flags and a 1000 sq ft of fake grass for my dog to have his own private doggie park….First World Problems while the country is imploding.

      Reply
    129. 129.

      Another Scott

      March 18, 2023 at 11:57 am

      @Mai Naem mobile:

      Kuulpeeps.com:

      According to Lyall Archibald’s 1936 book, The Future of Taboo in These Islands, Mum-Zi was a member of Chief Akkiri’s harem in Akwa Akpa (now Calabar), who would later be the father of her daughter.

      Her mother was a few months older, according to that link.

      Wikipedia lists a Peruvian mother who was 5 years 7 months (Caesarian).

      :-(

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    130. 130.

      Sister Golden Bear

      March 18, 2023 at 11:58 am

      @Kay:

      We don’t want far Right politicians and religious fundamentalists (or their judges) barging into our bedrooms and examining rooms and hospital rooms. We want them to back the fuck off.

      The bodily autonomy issue is one that I wish had more prominence in fighting off the 500+ anti-trans bills.

      But potential normie support for trans people’s bodily autonomy is one major reason they’re framing us as predatory pedophiles.

      @Kay:

      Just super interesting to me which speech matters.

      It was never about free speech, it was about freedom from pushback and from consequences.

      Reply
    131. 131.

      Geminid

      March 18, 2023 at 12:00 pm

      @Quinerly: I hope it all goes well. It sounds like you have a good person to help out.

      Reply
    132. 132.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 12:02 pm

      @Geminid:

      3 pallets. Two pallets of the really large ones. One pallet of the smaller ones. Side yard patio already has some down that Miguel and I reconfigured in the Fall. So that was my initial experience (as his assistant) in laying the huge ones. Adding about another 130 sq ft to that. This turf was a left over roll I got for almost 1/2 price, so I’m making the the yard fit the turf and getting rid of pea gravel. Adding some flags in the main backyard around the koi pond and some more flags out front.

      This project was also to keep my mind off of Trump.

      Reply
    133. 133.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 12:08 pm

      @Geminid:

      I like Miguel quite a bit. Smart. Has a 40 hr a week job with Albuquerque school system. This kind of job is side work. I could find cheaper labor, closer but I really like him. Sincere, conscientious. Wants to please. Probably could have done anything with his life  if not for birth circumstances and poverty. I like helping him. He seems to like helping me. We chat a lot. He doesn’t charge me for chatting. He’s actually interesting to hang out with.

      Reply
    134. 134.

      Kay

      March 18, 2023 at 12:09 pm

      @Mai Naem mobile:

      because the political media can only pay attention to one major issue at a time.

      They barely cover it. When they do “cover” it it’s to profit off of women who are volunteers and open a vein and tell their personal pregnancy stories on op ed pages. They only cover women when they’re exploiting them for profit.
      I wish women would stop playing along. Don’t submit any more free content to the NYTimes or the Washington Post. Stop letting them line their pockets on your personal stories. They won’t pay women to cover abortion? Then for God’s sake don’t do volunteer work for them.

      Reply
    135. 135.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 12:12 pm

      @sdhays:

      We DEFINITELY wouldn’t be here if this had been addressed with Nixon. I agree with you that Trump must be prosecuted. I’m just so fucking tired of it. I feel like we had a bit of a break from Trump 24/7 and I’m selfish….I was enjoying it.

      Reply
    136. 136.

      gene108

      March 18, 2023 at 12:13 pm

      @Kay:

      I’d say let’s see if the tens of elite antiwokesters with huge media platforms are concerned about the cancellng of this guy, but I already know the answer- we won’t hear a peep out of them because they are frauds and phonies.

      During the Red Scare of the 1940’s and 1950’s the focus is usually on the Hollywood actors and directors, who got blacklisted.

      There were also a lot of other people who lost their careers, because they might’ve been communist curious in the past or weren’t conforming to whatever standard was being set down.

      It began 70 years ago this month: June, 1952.

      The superintendent of the School District of Philadelphia summoned a veteran English teacher named Herman Aaron Beilan to his office for what he described, in writing, as “a matter of importance.”

      In this fateful meeting, the superintendent, Louis Hoyer, asked Beilan a question:

      Were you, in 1944, press director of the professional section of the Communist Political Association?

      We don’t know what Beilan thought as the question tumbled out of Hoyer’s mouth. Maybe he felt it coming. Maybe he didn’t. Maybe he wondered how the superintendent even knew about a political post he’d held eight years prior.

      We only know that Beilan didn’t answer. He asked to consult a lawyer.

      Hoyer said he could. Beilan left.

      Six years later, Beilan’s attorney would retell that story for the United States Supreme Court. By then, Beilan had lost his job. He was tutoring on the side and selling cleaning products door to door.

      https://whyy.org/episodes/schooled-red-tape-the-untold-stories-of-philadelphias-1950s-teacher-purge/

      Reply
    137. 137.

      Leto

      March 18, 2023 at 12:14 pm

      ACAB: Police stopped a Black couple in Tennessee – and took their children

      Nearly a month ago, Bianca Clayborne, Deonte Williams, and their five children were on their way from Georgia to Chicago for Clayborne’s uncle’s funeral when a highway patrol officer stopped them in Manchester, Tennessee.

      That moment – about 60 miles outside Nashville – has since upended their lives as Clayborne and Williams try to regain custody of their children after they say state authorities “kidnapped” them on account of a minuscule amount of marijuana in the car, the Tennessee Lookout first reported.

      The separation described by Clayborne and Williams fits into a historical pattern of US child welfare services dividing poor, Black and Indigenous families in particular on the grounds of alleged neglect and abuse, fueling disparities in who gets to remain a family and who doesn’t.

      …

      In Clayborne and Williams’s case, the trooper stopped their car on 17 February for having dark tinted windows and driving in the left lane without actively passing, according to citations reviewed by the Lookout. The officer searched their car and found five grams of marijuana, a misdemeanor offense. He arrested Williams and took him to a local jail. Clayborne followed, as her kids cried.

      While Clayborne waited for Williams’s release on bond, an officer restrained her while state officials took custody of her five children, including her four-month-old baby. Courtney Teasley, an attorney representing the family since late February, said that Clayborne and Williams’s case reflected “how government systems that say they are there to protect have the ability to use those same protections to oppress”.

      Saying Tennessee’s children’s services department was “abysmal,” Teasley said her clients’ children now face being removed from Georgia “to some school that they know nothing about”.

      “We already know that … [most] children being hurt are the Black children,” Teasley added. “Shining a light on this [shows] what’s being done to Black people in real time. That leads to mass incarceration and everything that comes with it: generational trauma, the school-to-prison pipeline.”

      The state’s children’s services department ultimately alleged that Clayborne and Williams’s children were being abused to obtain an emergency order to take them away. The removal went through though court records showed a state case worker brought in after the stop “discovered only the father had been arrested”, the Lookout reported. Still, that same day, the agency received a court order to take the children away from Clayborne and Williams.

      Reply
    138. 138.

      Ohio Mom

      March 18, 2023 at 12:15 pm

      @SiubhanDuinne: Thanks for the link. The article says the “bill would ban girls from talking about their menstrual cycles in school.” Are they going to get some kids to wear wires to rat out other kids?

      How does anyone know what kids are saying to one another in the playground, at the lunch table, lined up waiting for the school bus, and so forth? There is lots of informal socializing in school, it’s an important part of the day.

      Just another aspect of this proposal that is wildly nuts.

      Reply
    139. 139.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 12:15 pm

      I’ll leave this here. Posted it last night when I couldn’t sleep.

       More insanity in Florida. Mike Flynn seems to behind a lot of it.

      https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/03/mike-flynn-and-maga-activists-wage-war-against-a-florida-hospital/

      Reply
    140. 140.

      Kay

      March 18, 2023 at 12:16 pm

      Before any more women do volunteer work for the NYTimes and the WaPo and submit their personal pregnancy stories to the editorial pages of those media businesses for the media companies to profit off of, I wish women would ask how much those media companies have invested in covering abortion and paying women to cover it. Money. How much did they spend.

      Don’t open a vein for these assholes. They’re exploiting you. They  want the gory stories of blood and anguish in pregnancy for clicks and advertiser dollars but they aren’t willing to invest any money on coverage or pay women to cover abortion. Don’t play along. No more free labor.

      Reply
    141. 141.

      Geminid

      March 18, 2023 at 12:16 pm

      @Quinerly: I hope your koi are safe. The one pond I built was in Waynesboro, Virginia and the owner ended up installing netting over it because a local heron would fly in and eat the koi.

      And a water garden supply place over in the Shenendoah Valley thought somebody was sneaking in at night and stealing their expensive koi. It turned out to be a muskrat from the nearby stream

      Reply
    142. 142.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 12:19 pm

      @Ohio Mom:

      The articles I was reading yesterday focused on teachers. Example….11 year old girl gets her first period while in class. Goes to the teacher for help….what to do. Teacher can’t discuss anything about it with her and can’t help. Essentially, the girl is on her own in the bathroom.

      I can’t believe I am typing this shit. What is happening to this country?

      Reply
    143. 143.

      LiminalOwl

      March 18, 2023 at 12:21 pm

      @SiubhanDuinne: Thank you; sorry I missed that.

      Reply
    144. 144.

      Sure Lurkalot

      March 18, 2023 at 12:23 pm

      @Quinerly: I tend to agree that this country would be better off if Trump flees. He’s going to ratchet up his calls for violence at every turn and a lot of his followers, both those with and without a tenuous connection to reality, will listen, are listening. His enablers will make it worse. And the media, well here’s an example of how useless they will be:

      @JakeSherman
      and its with this backdrop that House Republicans head to their retreat in Orlando. It will run from Sunday to Tuesday.

      Reply
    145. 145.

      LiminalOwl

      March 18, 2023 at 12:25 pm

      @Another Scott: Ugh, and Thank you. Boebert is probably green with envy.

      Reply
    146. 146.

      Mike in NC

      March 18, 2023 at 12:26 pm

      @Suzanne:  Maybe be late to chime in, but we went to Brimfield about four years ago. My brother and his wife live on the South Shore. We enjoyed the fair even though we didn’t spend a lot of money. Mostly just walked around and took in the dealers. We stayed at some motel in Springfield that night on account of the weather (heavy rain). You will like the fair; everybody who loves to poke around a flea marker would, too.

      Reply
    147. 147.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 12:27 pm

      @Geminid:

      The koi are huge. Supposedly 15 years old. I need help this year getting the pond healthier. I think the 4 are too big for the size of this pond. Would love to find a home for a couple of them. But, Santa Fe being Santa Fe, I was told no one wants “used koi.” They are well over a ft long.

      I named them…the really flashy one is Mick. The cute one is Keith. There’s Ron in the background. And the albino one….my ghost koi is Charlie. Ron could go. Maybe Mick. Keith and Charlie definitely stay.

      When I lived in the inner city of St Louis all those years I had a goldfish pond. Finally gave up on the fish. Raccoons would raid it in the middle of the night. Bite the heads off and fling the little bodies.

      Reply
    148. 148.

      jeffreyw

      March 18, 2023 at 12:34 pm

      Trump Indictment Bingo

      Reply
    149. 149.

      Leto

      March 18, 2023 at 12:35 pm

      Manslaughter conviction of 21-year-old Oklahoma woman who suffered miscarriage sparks outcry

      Pregnancy advocates and others on social media are expressing outrage after a 21-year-old Oklahoma woman was convicted of first-degree manslaughter earlier this month for having a miscarriage, which the prosecutor blamed on her alleged use of methamphetamine.

      Brittney Poolaw, who is a member of the Comanche Nation, according to the Comanche County Detention Center, was sentenced on October 6 by a jury to four years in state prison. Poolaw’s attorney filed a notice of intent to appeal on October 15.

      Prosecutors argued that the miscarriage Poolaw suffered was from her use of methamphetamine. An autopsy of the fetus showed it had tested positive for methamphetamine, the Associated Press reported, but there was no evidence her use of the substance is what caused the miscarriage. The autopsy showed the miscarriage could have been caused by a congenital abnormality and placental abruption, when the placenta detaches from the womb, the AP said.

      But the state said she had violated the Oklahoma’s manslaughter statute, which says homicide is manslaughter in the first degree when the offender is “engaged in the commission of a misdemeanor; in a heat of passion, but in a cruel and unusual manner, or by means of a dangerous weapon; or when perpetrating unnecessarily either while resisting an attempt by the person killed to commit a crime, or after such attempt shall have failed.”

      National Advocates for Pregnant Women (NAPW) said in a statement that the state’s murder and manslaughter laws don’t apply to those who suffer miscarriages, defined as pregnancy losses that occur before 20 weeks of pregnancy.

      “Even when applied to later losses,” NAPW said, “Oklahoma law prohibits prosecution of the ‘mother of the unborn child’ unless she committed ‘a crime that caused the death of the unborn child.'”

      It literally doesn’t matter what the law states, the Christofascits are coming for everyone and everything.

      Reply
    150. 150.

      Bupalos

      March 18, 2023 at 12:37 pm

      @TS: I think most of the conversations I see here opining about why identity x would do something so clearly against the interests of identity x – coming to the conclusion that they don’t understand that it can and will hurt them – are really selling these causes way way short.

      I think they are much more holistically and coherently about fleeing modernity and a desire to retreat to a fictionalized past in the face of a future they consider too terrifying. Opposing abortion is positively about recreating a stable and strict Christian hierarchy. It isn’t about “saving babies” as they claim but nor is it about “hating women” as many on our side boil it out. It’s about fear, and the fantasy that a strict Christian society can address the things these people are afraid of. And we are pretty ineffective opposing it because we too are too caught up in our own kinds of doomsaying about the present and future to speak up for the benefits to everyone of the progress we have made and are going to make.

      Reply
    151. 151.

      Wyatt Salamanca

      March 18, 2023 at 12:37 pm

      @sdhays:

      Ford was an idiot for pardoning Nixon, but given Trump’s insanity I’m not sure that a successful prosecution of Nixon would have deterred Trump from committing criminal acts.

      Trump deserves to die in solitary confinement in a supermax federal prison, but I’ll settle for him losing the 2024 election.

      Reply
    152. 152.

      frosty

      March 18, 2023 at 12:38 pm

      @Geminid: We’ve had to do the same thing. Lost all of our goldfish to a local heron and I figured out how to put a net over the pond. It’s strung over 3/4″ plastic conduit and looks pretty ugly, but we still have all our fish.

      I need to redo it to look better. Another thing on the post-retirement to-do list.

      Reply
    153. 153.

      Geoduck

      March 18, 2023 at 12:39 pm

      A belated St. Patrick’s Day celebration from the Muppets.

      Reply
    154. 154.

      Sure Lurkalot

      March 18, 2023 at 12:43 pm

      @Quinerly: Will these nut jobs be happy when they shut down half of the hospitals? When their relative dies on a 45 minute ambulance ride to the closest facility, it will be Biden’s fault, no doubt.

      Sooner or later, fewer people will want to be in a medical profession in this country. Your level of providing care depends on the patient, not any objective standards, and you risk arrest and/or death threats to boot.

      Reply
    155. 155.

      oatler

      March 18, 2023 at 12:43 pm

      Every fresh Q hell makes me believe that THIS is the death spasm, but it just keeps bringing  more destruction. “Dying by inches from the ankles upward”.

      Reply
    156. 156.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 12:46 pm

      @oatler:

      The way I feel.

      Plus, the nuts high jacked my nickname. Since lawschool my nickname was “Q.” And, sometimes even, “The Q.”

      Reply
    157. 157.

      RedDirtGirl

      March 18, 2023 at 12:47 pm

      @Kay: There is a great tweet that has side-by-side photos of Governors Walz signing this bill with Sarah Sanders signing the Child Labor Law. The expressions on the faces in the second photo are priceless.

      Reply
    158. 158.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 12:49 pm

      @Sure Lurkalot:

      What they are doing to community hospitals needs more press.

      My brain is to a point that I can’t comprehend this. Hospitals and schools. They want to wallow in untreated sickness and ignorance.

      Reply
    159. 159.

      Geminid

      March 18, 2023 at 12:50 pm

      @frosty: Maybe you can find someone with a stand of bamboo. That stuff grows back as fast as you can cut it. If you get some that’s fresh cut, you may be able to lap and lash two together at their tops and make an arch.

      Bamboo is very invasive, but it can be useful for light construction. There is a stand of it on the land where I live and a couple friends have taken some for tomato trellises. There’s plenty more if you want to drive to Greene County, Virginia and get it. There ought to be some closer to you though.

      Reply
    160. 160.

      piratedan

      March 18, 2023 at 12:52 pm

      there once was a lass from Nantucket

      who went to the southwest on a junket

      she went to a bar

      to sample drinks from afar

      instead of the beers that were just served in a bucket

      Reply
    161. 161.

      CaseyL

      March 18, 2023 at 12:53 pm

      Just saw this on YouTube, and had to share, because it is a lovely instance of humans doing good things for other humans, and for the environment, successfully:

      Incredible Invention – Quiet Drones delivering medical supplies

      Mark Rober is a former NASA engineer who is into challenging people (esp. kids) to get into science and engineering.  He dreams up elaborate projects, carries them out, and films the whole thing.  He’s a bubbly, enthusiastic ambassador for Science.

      I subscribe to Rober’s YouTube channel, and I may have posted some of his videos before.  Possibly his backyard obstacle courses for squirrels, carried out over three years, each one more complicated than the last, with a continuing cast of squirrel characters.

      Anyway, check out this one.  It will put a smile on your face for any number of reasons.

      Reply
    162. 162.

      Amir Khalid

      March 18, 2023 at 12:54 pm

      @Quinerly:

      I named them…the really flashy one is Mick. The cute one is Keith. There’s Ron in the background. And the albino one….my ghost koi is Charlie. Ron could go. Maybe Mick. Keith and Charlie definitely stay.

      No Little Mick?

      Reply
    163. 163.

      NotMax

      March 18, 2023 at 12:56 pm

      Anybody yet mention this “mistake” down in benighted Florida?

      Reply
    164. 164.

      NotMax

      March 18, 2023 at 1:04 pm

      @Amir Khalid

      Would they then be the real Mick kois?

      Reply
    165. 165.

      StringOnAStick

      March 18, 2023 at 1:05 pm

      @Quinerly: Pea gravel makes excellent water-saving mulch for low water use garden plants, so you might want to save that for placing around plants and shrubs to help reduce water loss from the soil.  You’re close to High Country Gardens if you have time to go look at their demonstration gardens.

      Reply
    166. 166.

      Nelle

      March 18, 2023 at 1:05 pm

      @Kay: This, a thousand times this.

      Reply
    167. 167.

      Joy in FL

      March 18, 2023 at 1:06 pm

      @kalakal: I just read that post. It is really interesting. Thanks for the link.

      Reply
    168. 168.

      Ohio Mom

      March 18, 2023 at 1:08 pm

      @Quinerly: Yes, I know the law is aimed at controlling teachers but I was taken off balance by the Washington Post’s wording about “banning girls from talking.” Maybe the reporter phrased it badly?

      When Ohio Son was in elementary school, I was occasionally tickled to see him have the exact same experiences I’d had decades before and hundreds of miles east in NYC, such as recorder lessons in third grade and the separate boys and girls puberty talks, led by the school nurse, in fourth grade.

      Reply
    169. 169.

      Steve in the ATL

      March 18, 2023 at 1:13 pm

      Acronym Friday followed by Limerick Saturday.  What a country!

      Reply
    170. 170.

      PAM Dirac

      March 18, 2023 at 1:15 pm

      @Baud:

      Winner.

      Thank you. It’s an honor I’ll remember for as long as I can. It took me a while to respond because my wife, my dog, and I went out to our favorite local winery to pick up a few bottles of their bubbly (made with Grüner Veltliner and Viognier grapes). It seems the odds are increasing that multiple celebratory bottles of bubbly will be necessary in the near future.

      Reply
    171. 171.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 1:17 pm

      @NotMax:

      Saw that yesterday. It’s like a firehouse of this shit incoming. Daily. So much isn’t getting picked up.

      Reply
    172. 172.

      cain

      March 18, 2023 at 1:19 pm

      @Kay: ​
       
      It just isn’t catching with the rubes – it’s because they don’t know any trans people causing problems or doing much of anything. Priests on the other hand…

      Reply
    173. 173.

      cain

      March 18, 2023 at 1:21 pm

      @Kay: I was pretty flabbergasted. When I was growing up in indiana, we had free lunches. I certainly don’t remember paying ! (it could have been rolled into the school fees dunno)

      Oregon doesn’t have free lunches for all that we are blue and have blue majorities – we don’t seem to be doing much in this regard. The cost of education and just about everything is just way high. Combining food and rent here – I just don’t see how a couple can even afford a kid especially with both kids working.

      Reply
    174. 174.

      Gvg

      March 18, 2023 at 1:23 pm

      @Suzanne: i have been thinking more about fireworks.

      Reply
    175. 175.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 1:23 pm

      @Ohio Mom:

      Who fucking knows who it is aimed at?  Old White men making laws about girls’ bodies. I think I read a snippet in one piece that a Repug involved in this didn’t know 11 yo girls can start their periods….without warning. This is the same crowd that don’t believe raped women can get pregnant….”the whole body shuts down” crowd.

      With that said, I didn’t read  WaPo piece because of the paywall.

      Reply
    176. 176.

      cain

      March 18, 2023 at 1:24 pm

      @Ripley:

      There once was a cat from Nuntucket

      Whose fur was so soft you wanted it to pet it

      she would get all the stares

      yet she declares

      none shall touch it

      Reply
    177. 177.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 1:37 pm

      @StringOnAStick:

      You can’t fathom how much pea gravel I have moved…by drywall buckets from this side yard to front areas for cactus beds. No pea gravel has been wasted or harmed! The layout here is such with walls, gates, steps, paths that I couldn’t move with a wheelbarrow. I started moving this last May. A little bit everyday. At least 5 buckets a day. Pretty much everyday, weather permitting. It became an obsession and exercise program. Gravel was at least an inch thick, 3 inches in some spots. At least 2000 sq ft of gravel. Now have extensive cactus beds out front. Three piles of “back up” gravel on south side of a wall that look like I like I have 3 bodies stacked under each pile. I’m waiting to be called out by the HOA over the “bodies.”

      Reply
    178. 178.

      kalakal

      March 18, 2023 at 1:41 pm

       

      @Gin & Tonic:

      There was a young lady from Nantucket

      Who went on holiday in Phuket

      When she told her friends where she’d been

      There were suggestions and comments quite obscene

      She said, you can take your innuendo and stuff it!

      Reply
    179. 179.

      Geminid

      March 18, 2023 at 1:42 pm

      @Quinerly: “Bodies? Oh, they’re from my last Home Owners Association.”

      Reply
    180. 180.

      Joy in FL

      March 18, 2023 at 1:46 pm

      @CaseyL: I just watched the video. It is awesome, and I’m so glad that I now know about Zipline. It also expanded my thinking about drones, which is a good thing, too. There are some really good things being done by a lot of people. Thanks for the link : )

      Reply
    181. 181.

      Quinerly

      March 18, 2023 at 1:56 pm

      @Geminid:

      💚

      Reply
    182. 182.

      WaterGirl

      March 18, 2023 at 2:02 pm

      @Steve in the ATL: we may have to cancel Sunday if we don’t come up with something!

      Reply
    183. 183.

      Suzanne

      March 18, 2023 at 2:27 pm

      @LiminalOwl: Ooooh that would be fun! I will have the Spawns, so I am not sure how much flexibility I will have. Is there a good coffee place nearby? That will be easier than a meal.

      Reply
    184. 184.

      Kathleen

      March 18, 2023 at 3:36 pm

      @Kay: The TV ads I’ve seen state that the measure opposing State interference is “cutting out the parents” from having a say. By their own admission the measure specifies “State”! They’re vomiting word salads again. Throw in a few “workes” and “all lives matter” and you’ve got a Rethuglican outrage generator mad lib.

      Reply
    185. 185.

      Kathleen

      March 18, 2023 at 3:42 pm

      @Kay: To your point – I read article in WaPo yesterday about child marriages and my takeaway was: “have to respect religious beliefs”, “no one is getting worked up about it”, and “kids can’t vote”.

      Reply
    186. 186.

      Kathleen

      March 18, 2023 at 3:49 pm

      @opiejeanne: WaPo has a story on it today. I haven’t read it yet

      Here is a gift link so you can read without paywall:

      https://wapo.st/3mXOFEN

      Reply
    187. 187.

      pluky

      March 18, 2023 at 4:58 pm

      @Kay: A parent complaining about a module in a college student’s class sufficed to get a professor fired! This helicopter needs to land; it’s way passed the nuisance phase.

      Reply
    188. 188.

      hotshoe

      March 18, 2023 at 6:45 pm

      @Suzanne: lucky me, popcorn was in the food-bag distribution yesterday :)

      Reply
    189. 189.

      LiminalOwl

      March 18, 2023 at 7:31 pm

      @Suzanne: There’s a nice coffee place in East Longmeadow. Looks like there are several in Springfield, but we haven’t been here long enough to investigate.  Spouse loves Dunkin’ and doesn’t look farther afield.
      No, I lie; we had good coffee at two different breakfast places in, I think, West Springfield. One of them also had an amazing assortment of tea, and was quite family-friendly.

      Really don’t know Brimfield at all yet, but can start researching.

      Reply

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