Happy Indictment Week to all who celebrate!
I might worry that saying that could jinx something, but when they’re already setting up the barricades, I think it’s safe to assume this is real.
Nice to see NY planning ahead!
Steel barricades arriving outside Manhattan Criminal Court @CBSNews pic.twitter.com/aWESUZ01fU
— Robert Costa (@costareports) March 20, 2023
“I definitely didn’t commit a crime, but if I did, I definitely hid it long enough to get away with it” isn’t the winning defense he thinks it is.
— 𝙽𝚊𝚜𝚑 𝙸𝚜 𝙷𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝙵𝚘𝚛 𝙸𝚝 (@NashIsHereForIt) March 20, 2023
Please please please.
He is daring the NY court for a gag order.
He will violate the gag order.
He will commit more crimes to cover his previous crimes. pic.twitter.com/gfcqQIGXxM
— Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) March 20, 2023
Open thread.
cain
From a man who once had a great conversation with an empty chair:
“Go ahead, make my day”
Maxim
It’s caps lock all the way down.
Alison Rose
God damn, someone take his fucking caps lock and shift keys away, please. JFC.
Benw
Happy Indy Week to you as well, WG!
Tomorrow, the Tuesday of Indy Week, the ghost of Elliot Ness will leave manilla folders with candy and goodies under the traditional Indy Gavel, set out on Indy eve by the excited children!
Dangerman
Gag order? Only way he shuts up will be the Tunch at the Vets treatment pic from about a week ago.
ETA: Not saying I’m against TFG getting hogtied, blindfolded, and gagged.
ETA: Just reviewed the photo. Tunch’s voluminous white butt kinda reminds me of TFG, actually.
patrick II
So, it really will be Tuesday?
Old School
Google tells me the police union endorsed Trump rather than NYPD.
I can’t find anything about Trump being honored as “Man of the Year.” Did he make that part up?
Renie
I read it will be either tonight or Wednesday. Someone also said Manhattan DA normally does indictments Monday and Wednesday. Hope it doesn’t happen tomorrow so trump looks ridiculous since he’s been saying Tuesday.
Hungry Joe
Gotta be prepared, but I expect little, if any, resistance from MAGAsses. They’ve seen their fellow goons busted and sentenced for 1/6, and the promise of a Trump pardon is 1) meaningless for NY state charges, and 2) meaningless because, well … Trump.
different-church-lady
Repeat: I think it would be hysterical if they waited until Wednesday.
Ken
And spanked with a rolled-up Forbes magazine, if I’m correctly recalling what Stormy Daniels said.
bbleh
A big part of his appeal to his followers is this I-can-do-anything-I-want-I-dare-you-to-stop-me schtick. And the best way to puncture that balloon is not to rise to any bait he throws out (and he’s throwing out a LOT) and proceed methodically with your own agenda on your own timetable. So far pretty much everybody who’s considering prosecuting him seems to be doing more or less that, and that — and especially the federal investigation — has been widely reported to have him increasingly rattled.
Let him bluster. And let him surrender quietly and be ROR’d. All I want is a copy of the mugshot.
NotMax
Has the trending ball started rolling on something ending in -gate yet?
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Frankensteinbeck
Wow. Begging for the police to save him. The flop sweat is strong with this one.
ColoradoGuy
How do you break the Caps Lock key on a phone!?
different-church-lady
I’m hoping to someday be rich enough to fund my own district attorney.
arielibra
@Benw: You are en fuego today.
different-church-lady
@Ken:
Fuckin’ rule 34…
Spanky
@Old School:
Say it ain’t so!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
Speaking of NY, some Proud Boys got the shit beat out of them when trying to disrupt a Drag Queen Story Hour in NYC:
“I came here to help, not get the shit beat out of me” – a member of Proud Boys, with visible blood on his face ushered away from Drag Queen Story Hour event in NYC as protesters chant “Fuck the Proud Boys”
Dangerman
@Ken: I’m just amazed that the Jerkle’s Boner was to bone her.
ETA: Sorry, Merkle, to compare you to Trump. You were a NY Giant. Nothing about Trump is giant. OK, maybe his Tunchian Ass.
NotMax
@ColoradoGuy
Caps lock him up!
:)
bbleh
@Spanky: He’s certainly never made up anything like that before!
NotMax
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
See yesterday’s Late Night thread.
different-church-lady
@NotMax: You may take any internets from the top shelf.
dmsilev
@cain: The chair definitely won that particular debate.
Mike in NC
Fat Bastard can never resist using that stupid, “ME! Your FAVORITE President” bit. Here’s hoping he gets tazed for resisting arrest tomorrow and publicly shits his pants.
SpaceUnit
He forgot to use the word ‘woke’.
oldgold
I am hoping Jack Smith is learning from this.
On the documents case, he needs to run silent, deep and at warp speed towards indictment.
The Republic may depend on it.
Alison Rose
LOL Stormy FTW
She’s responding to a tweet at her that just said “Trump hit that” with some laughing emojis
p.a.
I hate tRump too. Fuckin’ Soros, where’s MY money?
Frankensteinbeck
Everyone here is reading that all caps rant the way I am, right? “You and me is buddies, ain’t we, NYPD? You wouldn’t let the DA prosecute your buddy Trump, right?”
If he thinks as ‘mafia boss’ as everyone says, then what he’s actually asking for might be for the NYPD to threaten the DA for him. Does that sound right?
trollhattan
CAN I IMAGINE? Yes, yes I can.
NotMax
@p.a.
Key to a safe deposit box hidden inside every Obamaphone.
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Scout211
What an idiot.
“The crime that I haven’t yet been charged with doesn’t exist.”
LOLOLOLOL
🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
rikyrah
Maurice W (@iamMauriceW) tweeted at 10:22 AM on Mon, Mar 20, 2023:
Did you know-network refused to have Franklin, the Black Character, in the Peanuts T.V. Show. Charles Schultz’s fought back & won. However with the Thanksgiving Special, network demanded Franklin sit at servant table, Animators instead sat him alone opposite all other characters
Maurice W (@iamMauriceW) tweeted at 10:30 AM on Mon, Mar 20, 2023:
According to Charles Shultz wife, he didn’t find out what they had done to Franklin until it was completed and ready to air. It was never his idea to give Franklin a bootleg chair and sit him on one side of a table alone…It was the studio, network and animators. https://t.co/m8XDYVhTg0
(https://twitter.com/iamMauriceW/status/1637839040274657283?t=gKE41Gvnq-ZFhjefhBVDfg&s=03)
Elizabelle
Well dang, ladies. Rupert Murdoch is off the marriage market, again.
Springtime for …. The sprightly 92-year old is engaged to a 66-year old widow, whose previous husband also accumulated media properties. Rupert is divorced from Jerry Hall, his bride of 2016. This will be marriage #5.
To quote the intending bridegroom:
Oh puh-leez let that math be way off. WaPost link, but not a gift link. I value you all too much for that.
danielx
@Old School:
Surely you jest.
smith
Why buy a piddly DA when you can buy multiple state attorneys general who are considering filing suit against you? And use your charitable foundation to do it? There’s a reason TFG thinks the DA was bought off — it’s been his MO for years.
rikyrah
Michelle_BYoung (@michelle_byoung) tweeted at 10:23 AM on Mon, Mar 20, 2023:
Collins is actually downplaying what a disaster replacing VP would be. It’s not just that Harris personally doesn’t deserve that kind of insult, it’s the Black base of the party doesn’t deserve it & if they think Blk women in particular who do the lions share of party organizing
Michelle_BYoung (@michelle_byoung) tweeted at 10:25 AM on Mon, Mar 20, 2023:
2. Would stand idly by & carry on this work while the historic VP is replaced for no reason they got another think coming. It’d be party suicide, a self inflicted mortal wound that’d take generations to recover from.
……………………..
shadowhikari (@shadowhikari2) tweeted at 0:02 PM on Mon, Mar 20, 2023:
They don’t realize, by entertaining and voicing this talk at all, they’re de facto insulting the base of BW voters. Like if y’all can’t see how racist and sexist it is to be doing this for the first female and non white VP even if it never happened, idk what to tell you.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@NotMax:
Ah, I didn’t read it, scanning now
OverTwistWillie
Uh Donnie, I got some bad news for youse…
danielx
@Elizabelle:
I can sense the miasma of diappointment….
WaterGirl
@Benw: I’m excited to see what the ghost of Elliot Ness leaves us!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Frankensteinbeck:
Nope, that’s how it sounds to me too. Guys’ a thug
WaterGirl
@Ken: I would pay good money NOT to have to see that.
WaterGirl
@arielibra: I am planning to front page Benw’s bible verse from this morning.
VeniceRiley
@rikyrah: Bingo!
WaterGirl
@NotMax: Okay, I laughed out loud at that one.
HeleninEire
@WaterGirl: Great. It was awesome!
Betty Cracker
Does anyone know how arresting a suspect works in a normal case like this? From what I’ve read, it sounds like the most likely charge is falsifying business records or something like that. If NY charged a former resident now living in FL who was NOT Trump, what’s the process? Would the NY cops demand that the suspect return to NY to face charges, issuing an extradition order or whatever if he refused to surrender on an agreed-upon date?
rikyrah
Michelle (@Michell33650674) tweeted at 3:01 AM on Sun, Mar 19, 2023:
How often do we have to remind American women that, in Iran in the 50’s, women there were just like us? They dressed normally, went to college, drove cars, had lives of their own. MUSLIM EXTREMISTS TOOK THAT ALL AWAY. Christian extremism will do the EXACT SAME THING. Get it?
(https://twitter.com/Michell33650674/status/1637363606344826882?t=x-TJbsQpdLdYN6vEtPHbBg&s=03)
WaterGirl
@Frankensteinbeck: Pretty much.
rikyrah
Bob south florida water man (@WaterDean) tweeted at 6:27 AM on Mon, Mar 20, 2023:
Not just Florida: The entire GOP is waging a nationwide racism-fueled war on public education https://t.co/H0EyV2m800 The white supremacist have taken over 27 states and the house.
(https://twitter.com/WaterDean/status/1637777871421751297?t=31U55KQdPaHUTLSJ2uyGpw&s=03)
Elizabelle
@rikyrah: Hey there. Who is the “Collins” who has the ridiculous idea to replace MVP Harris? (ETA: Is it Gail Collins of the FTF NY Times? Susan is the first that always comes to mind, but I don’t see her saying anything that stupid. In public.)
WaterGirl
@HeleninEire: It truly was!
WaterGirl
@Betty Cracker: What I have read is that Trump will NOT be arrested – unless he refuses to turn himself in.
If he turns himself in, he will be photographed and arraigned and charged and fingerprinted and all that, but not actually ARRESTED.
The question remains – is Trump so stubborn / fearful of being arrested that he will actually be the cause of his own arrest?
Magic 8-ball says it’s quite possible.
edit: Apparently Trump’s lawyers want to make arrangements to do it all by zoom so he doesn’t have to go to NY. If that is allowed, it’s a clear message, and a bad one for the country.
eclare
@Elizabelle: I wondered that, too.
Karen S.
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I saw the video of this yesterday. Made me so happy. Just goes to show that these anti-drag weirdos no nothing about drag queens and LGBT folks. We know how to fight because a lot of us have had to all our lives.
rikyrah
Thomas Kennedy (@tomaskenn) tweeted at 11:32 AM on Sun, Mar 19, 2023:
A DeSantis backed anti-immigrant bill is moving forward in the Florida legislature. It would make it a third degree felony to have an undocumented person in your home or car, even if they are related to you. https://t.co/SvDxcUkM4G
(https://twitter.com/tomaskenn/status/1637492189054873604?s=02)
Josie
@rikyrah:
Who are the delusional numnuts that are pushing to replace Harris? I wasn’t aware of such a movement.
rikyrah
Thomas Kennedy (@tomaskenn) tweeted at 7:40 PM on Sun, Mar 19, 2023:
DeSantis’ lawyers are trying to demolish Florida’s broad open records and public meeting laws. They claim DeSantis has an executive right to keep government records secret from the public. All to protect corrupt politicians and special interest groups.
https://t.co/0bSY9pZczA
(https://twitter.com/tomaskenn/status/1637615079435665409?s=02)
mvr
@Betty Cracker:
They would likely offer an opportunity (via his lawyers) to show up in court for arraignment with the alternative being they go through legal process to ensure his appearance, including extradition if needed.
rikyrah
UH HUH
UH HUH
Dare Obasanjo (@Carnage4Life) tweeted at 10:45 AM on Sun, Mar 19, 2023:
Everytime Credit Suisse is in the news I remember they had a Black CEO who was turning the company around but the idea of a Black guy running a Swiss bank was so abhorrent they pushed him out.
So the company fell back into its old ways and is about to fail
https://t.co/FO7PZbndlt
(https://twitter.com/Carnage4Life/status/1637480539879010304?s=02)
Elizabelle
Macron’s government survived a no-confidence vote. For now.
Old School
@Elizabelle: @eclare:
It is Gail Collins, who thought Biden should replace Harris, but then thought better of it.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@WaterGirl:
Why is it bad for the country? That it would look like the DA got cold feet by not having Trump appear in person in NY? That Trump would be given special treatment?
Lawyers of BJ, how likely is it the NYC DA would allow this?
rikyrah
@Josie:
A number of articles with ‘ anonymous’ sources. Nobody bad enough to put their names on record.
different-church-lady
@WaterGirl: When did Zoom add a fingerprinting feature?
Elizabelle
@Old School: How disappointing. Brent Stephens’ prion disease is migrating to her, perhaps.
That’s Bedbug Stephens. Jackass. He also apparently thinks the economy is heading off a cliff, so — not the time to raise taxes (“pick people’s pockets”, in Stephens’ view) And it is just raising taxes on the rich that is under consideration, no?? Again. Jackass.
different-church-lady
@Old School: “I had a bad idea. Then I thought better of it. I now present you with the bad idea anyway.”
Math Guy
I look forward to him being indicted, but I am not certain that he will be convicted in this case. On the other hand, I think Fani Willis is going to nail his fat @$$ to the wall.
different-church-lady
@Math Guy: It would have to be the Great Wall of China for that ass.
Alison Rose
@Old School: Some of this is also stemming from an interview where Elizabeth Warren said something kind of lame about Harris.
Apparently she’s tried to call Harris to apologize, but like…E-Dub, I love you, but that was a shit thing to say.
rikyrah
TRUTH
Olayemi Olurin (@msolurin) tweeted at 10:31 AM on Sun, Mar 19, 2023:
Please stop letting people with college degrees and the jobs and opportunities they got as a result of those college degrees, tell you that college is not worth it.
Shannon (@kcshannonlee1) tweeted at 3:43 PM on Sun, Mar 19, 2023:
Are men or women saying that? Men can do manual labor or drive a truck and make a living straight out of high school. Women without an education beyond high school usually only have an opportunity to work for poverty level wages.
(https://twitter.com/kcshannonlee1/status/1637555516187758592?s=02)
Roger Moore
@Josie:
The usual suspects. There has been a concerted push by “concerned” people that Harris will hold back Joe’s reelection chances.
Elizabelle
@Roger Moore: Ick. I’d rather think more about Rupert Sexypants Murdoch.
Again. Ick. (Popcorn!)
Scout211
When you have money, you and your lawyers think you are above the law. In fact, if you have the money, you can file motion after motion and then file more motions in order to discredit the judicial system. They are getting desperate and that means aggressive, apparently.
. . .
rikyrah
DAMN!
dj spydermann (@djspydermann) tweeted at 6:53 AM on Sun, Mar 19, 2023:
The Isley Brothers as a group have 32 Albums and a hit record in EVERY decade for the past EIGHT decades. Their first hit was in 1959 with Shout and their current album is #6 on the charts in 2023. Ronald will be 82 this year. https://t.co/hptpftXVTW
(https://twitter.com/djspydermann/status/1637422149328678912?s=02)
Math Guy
@different-church-lady: 🤭
NotMax
@Elizabelle
One cannot help presuming the prenup runs so long it’s bound as a three-volume boxed set.
Baud
@Alison Rose: She actually seems to have a bit of a habit of putting her foot in her mouth. Doesn’t happen often, but it does happen periodically.
Frankensteinbeck
@Josie:
Pundits, and all their pundit friends say Just Not This Black Woman, so obviously it’s a major sentiment in the Democratic Party. After all, their pundit friends are all political experts, right?
@rikyrah:
The Obama-Trump phenomenon. They thought they would be fine working for a black man, until he was good at it.
Baud
@Elizabelle: Interesting. Thanks.
trollhattan
@rikyrah: Know who once played guitar for the Isley Brothers? Fellow named Jimi James (pictured here on the left). Not just making hits, they were a talent factory.
Geminid
From a Politico article about the House Republican retreat in Orlando:
trollhattan
@Frankensteinbeck: His real downfall: couldn’t fix a watch.
Alison Rose
@Baud: To be fair, if I were a politician (LOLOLOLOLOL) I’d put my foot in my mouth every day mostly because I wouldn’t be able to keep myself from swearing. But yeah, I wonder if some of it is left over from her pre-politics days. Sometimes when she goes off, it’s beautiful. Other times…no.
Beatrice Fitzpatrick
YES
different-church-lady
@Josie: It’s the “Some Democrats”, as usual.
eclare
@rikyrah: Wow!
WaterGirl
@different-church-lady: Yeah, i know. Details, details.
Betty Cracker
@WaterGirl: & @mvr: Thanks! Maybe it would be best for the country if Trump holes up at Disgraceland hoping that a “MAGA moat” of supporters who surround the place (as has been proposed by online nutters) prevent his arrest and extradition. That would maximize the Trump buffoonery and put DeSantis in an untenable situation, so win-win maybe?
@Alison Rose: It was a boneheaded comment, but I read somewhere that Warren released a statement clarifying that she’s 100% behind Biden-Harris and didn’t mean to imply otherwise. I also read something (at The Hill maybe?) saying the two had dinner recently (not just Warren and Harris but a bipartisan group of women senators who meet with Harris occasionally at the VP’s residence) and put it behind them.
WaterGirl
@Alison Rose: The expression damned with faint praise comes to mind, but it’s not even faint praise.
WaterGirl
@Scout211: That will go nowhere. But of course, some court somewhere will have to respond.
Sister Golden Bear
@Dangerman:
I’d pay good money to see the Anger Yam with a Hannibal Lecter mask over his yap, being wheeled around trussed up to a furniture dolly. A gold-plated furniture dolly, cuz he’s special, doncha know.
WaterGirl
@rikyrah: That’s amazing! But no link to their current song. :-(
WaterGirl
@Sister Golden Bear: The level of detail in that statement suggests that you have given this some serious thought! :-)
Dangerman
@Math Guy: I’m concerned a jury in Georgia will hang. Doesn’t matter if he’s guilty. Can you imagine the payday if some MAGA fuck hangs the jury 11-1?
Not as likely in NYC.
Frankensteinbeck
@Sister Golden Bear:
Good one.
Roger Moore
@Betty Cracker:
It could have been a badly worded support for Biden. What she probably meant was to support whomever Biden wants as his running mate, rather than to show lukewarm support for Harris. To be completely fair, it was an obnoxious move on the part of the interviewer; they’re the one trying to drive a wedge between Biden and Harris by not treating them as a unit. An experienced politician like Warren should be able to respond better, but make no mistake about what’s really going on here.
Baud
@Geminid:
Sounds like they were saved from people learning about their agenda.
Sister Golden Bear
@Elizabelle: Well I suppose “filthy rich and barely breathing” is an attractive type of man for some women.
Baud
@Roger Moore: I agree. I don’t know of any reason she would have a problem with Harris. And it is not a responsible topic for serious reporters.
Ruckus
@rikyrah:
It’s not just the Black base that would be pissed off.
This old white fart would be plenty pissed off.
She is a good VP and I think she would make a great president. I thought enough of her that I voted for her in the CA primary for president and I’m very glad that Joe Biden chose her as his running mate.
trollhattan
Fifty-seven years ago, the World Cup trophy was stolen from its display case in Westminster. The ransom was thwarted by Pickles the dog, who found the trophy hidden beneath a parked car. Good boy, Pickles!
You’d think “lesson learned” but noooo, the Cup was last seen in Brazil until again being stolen in 1983.
eclare
@Ruckus: Same here. My friends and I were ecstatic when Joe chose Kamala.
trollhattan
@Sister Golden Bear: ”Something, something, blowtorch and pliers.”
Suzanne
I have a whole bag of popcorn! I’M READY!
bbleh
@Scout211: @WaterGirl: It’s a Hail Mary. Trump has always been Catholic, you know. Really, believe me.
trollhattan
Man of Courage, speaks.
NotMax
@bbleh
“Your Favorite Catholic. ME!”
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Ruckus
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
First it would set a very bad precedent.
Second why the hell should he get special privileges? He is a citizen
likeunlike most other citizens, he is accused of violating a rather serious law and there is a procedure, and he has zero excuse not to show up. Hell he owns his own plane. Or he can be flown up to NYC by the PD, in handcuffs. Go easy, go not so easy, his choice. But the not so easy way is the completely stupid way, so it’s at least even money that he’ll refuse and have to be extradited.Matt McIrvin
@rikyrah: It’s so foolish. I think a lot of these people just look at poll numbers, compare X and Y and imagine candidates can be swapped in and out with zero transaction cost. But it doesn’t work that way. You don’t just shaft a huge chunk of your base with zero cost.
Benw
@WaterGirl: our gavel is all set out!
@WaterGirl: Ruh roh!
Ruckus
@different-church-lady:
China doesn’t want him. Or his fat ass.
China is actually trying to make it’s country better and that would be a big fat step backwards.
NotMax
@different-church-lady
Which wall Mexico is still making payments for.
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WaterGirl
@bbleh: Ha!
Betty Cracker
@Roger Moore: I agree Warren meant no harm — she responded clumsily to a dumb gotcha question. From what I’ve seen, very few Democrats took the conflict bait, which is heartening.
trollhattan
Rand Paul continues finding ways to be both fucking weird and utterly irrelevant, at the same time.
Guessing if adorable future spree-shooter Hunter Kimbell had been sent home for wearing a “Justice for George Floyd” tee, Senator Paul would have rushed to his support, posed with him, and posted it to Rand Paul’s Twitter.
Geminid
@Matt McIrvin: Many of these anti-Harris agitators are just trying to make trouble for the Democratic Party. Joe Biden is a tough target right now, so they try to undermine VP Harris, or Secretary Buttigieg.
Some are just amoral pundits, trying for clicks. Others self-describe as “progressives; they resent elements of the current Democratic coalition and would like to reshape it in their image. Kamala Harris is in their way, both now and more importantly, in the future. So they’ll try to undermine her at every opportunity.
I used to call these ostensible allies “conditional Democrats.” Now I just call them Copperheads.
Elizabelle
@Geminid: Copperheads.
Shitheads works too.
Why would they think we would take advice from Copperheads/Shitheads (take your pick) who would not vote for the Democratic ticket if you paid them?
I think a lot of these pundits and political reporters just interview each other. And Republicans. (In many cases, I repeat myself there.)
It’s just clickbait, with the intent of undermining the Democratic party and its voters.
stinger
@rikyrah: This kind of speculation is malarkey. Have they met Joe Biden? He would NEVER replace Harris while she’s healthy and wants the job. He picked her in the first place for reasons that have not since changed. And he’s kept her deeply involved in domestic administration and foreign policy. She’s his running mate.
trollhattan
@Geminid: Think this is correct. Find/create then exploit division wherever you can. They do not care who or what, just that it has an effect.
stinger
@Elizabelle:
This made me laugh. Twice!
Betty Cracker
@Geminid: I can understand why folks might question whether Harris has the political chops to win a presidential race and/or why people think this country is still too racist and sexist to elect Harris president. I don’t necessarily share those anxieties, but those are opinions I can understand. What I don’t get is why anyone thinks Harris is an enemy of progressive policies. I consider myself a liberal progressive, and I’d describe Harris that way too.
UncleEbeneezer
@trollhattan: Yup, it’s the usual suspects who do nothing but shit on the Dem Party and look for reasons to abandon our coalition (if they are ever even a part of it).
prostratedragon
@rikyrah: An important thing to highlight and keep in mind.
Matt McIrvin
@Josie: Paul Campos on LGM is the one I’ve directly seen floating the idea of replacing Harris. I recall he opened by talking about how old and decrepit Biden is, which is a recurring theme with him, but it was kind of disturbing how that led immediately to replacing Harris who is by no means old or decrepit. I think the reasoning was along the lines of “if he dies we’ll have to deal with her lower poll numbers.”
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
Poor baby.
Geminid
@Betty Cracker: That’s how I would describe Harris too. But I’ve observed a lot of resentment on the part of some people on the “Left” towards Black Democrats in general. Some of this comes out of Twitter wars with the assertive K-Hive and their allies. But a lot of it comes from the 2020 primaries, when Black Democrats voted in large numbers for the more moderate candidate.
Personally, I think the reason Black people voted that way wasn’t because they were relatively conservative, but because they were very pragmatic and realistic. They had to be. Black people had a whole lot riding on the outcome in November, and they knew it.
I think that most White liberals who started out rooting for a “more progressive” candidate came around to the position taken by the majority of Black Democrats. But there was a hard core of very sore losers, and they still take their bitterness out on the Vice President.
prostratedragon
@Sister Golden Bear:
@WaterGirl:
The thought has occured to me more than once (without the gold trim), along with a sense that it’s not far off the situation.
Matt McIrvin
@Geminid: The Bernie primary crowd seemed to hate Harris almost as much as they did Warren.
And there was the “she’s a cop” line of attack, portraying her as a law-enforcement authoritarian. There were specific beefs concerning her prosecution of sex workers and something about denying gender-affirming care to prison inmates.
MisterForkbeard
@Ruckus: Right there with you. Unless Harris comes out and says “you know, I’d rather go do something else” she has 110% of my support as Veep in 2024.
MisterForkbeard
@Ruckus: I might consider it if they stated that Trump was so infirm and weak that he couldn’t manage the trip to NYC to testify for a few hours and/or would require so much medication that his testimony would be in doubt. Maybe then.
But otherwise – nah, he’s gotta do the ‘everyone is equal under the law’ thing.
@Matt McIrvin: The “gender affirming care” thing was particularly stupid. Basically, Harris set up a process whereby inmates could get care at state expense. But it was hard to get into and had to be justified, so it only had a few people in the program every year. As opposed to before, when they got nothing. Some on the left wanted to pretend this meant Kamala was anti-trans.
I hope those fuckers feel bad about lying about her. Especially she caught so much crap for being a black woman who enthusiastically agreed to use people’s preferred pronouns.
sab
I am a tax preparer trying to work remote and it sucks. I will be 70 next years. Lots of experience, but time to give it up.
Remotely, fifteen minute tax returns are taking me more than an hour. Eats up my employers’ profits completely. I have to sign on to my laptop. Then I have to sign on to the VPN. Then I have to sign on to my particular computer in the office. All of these sign ons take an inordinate amount of time. Then I have to sign on to our tax software, which takes forever. So eventually, if I am lucky this all works out. But mostly it doesn’t. So I timed out on something along the line.
Eventually I have to get someone in the office to reboot my computer so I can start again. But nobody is there late at night or on weekends. And daytime hours I believe there are too many people on line so it is pointless.
Handing my office keys in after this season. Too old with too high blood pressure to do this any more. Sad because otherwise I like tax prep. Puzzle solving. Plug the data into the right hole.
columbusqueen
Can we hope the judge orders Cheetolini gagged for the arraignment?
artem1s
@Roger Moore:
It’s also a round about way of questioning Biden’s age and fitness to serve too. “Whatever will we do if he dies and SHE becomes the nominee for POTUS?”
The Ithacan
@sab: try AARP tax prep volunteer.