It’s possible that today will be a cake day (aka a day to celebrate an indictment).
All 23 grand jurors appear to be in the courtroom, but I am still not measuring my ingredients just yet.
Still, there’s news. (I started to the noose by mistake – Freudian slip?)
In New York, only 16 grand jurors are needed to hear evidence and testimony. Today, all 23 appear to be there. https://t.co/8TuBGDkU3u
— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) March 27, 2023
JUST IN: Judge who presided over the Fulton County special purpose grand jury investigating Trump asks the DA to respond to Trump's last-ditch effort to quash the panel's final report. https://t.co/YXtRSjGB3Q pic.twitter.com/FRAtZ9SExA
— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) March 27, 2023
If this image doesn’t give you chills, I don’t know what would. Footage of the Jan 6 insurrection is playing in the background as Trump appears to stand at attention. :: shudder ::
This is who Trump always was. I cannot tell you how many people ridiculed those of us who warned he was an authoritarian wannabe despot way back in 2015, 2016, and 2017. But my God, it was so obvious. This man should never be in charge of anything, ever again. https://t.co/Z73reHj74g
— Brian Klaas (@brianklaas) March 26, 2023
What is the thing to the right of the big guy in the photo – it looks like a hangman’s noose to me. Another reminder of Jan 6? Surely it’s something else entirely.
Open thread.
Suzanne
I’m out of popcorn.
I have gelato, tho.
narya
Can I get you to weigh rather than measure your ingredients? ;-)
Baud
Even if they indict today, I doubt we’ll learn about it unless Trump’s team leaks it.
gene108
Trump’s lost weight. I hope it’s from the stress of all these lawsuits.
Another Scott
The thing by TFG is a bunch of strapped-together speakers hung from a crane. A better picture is here with MTGreen.
HTH!
Cheers,
Scott.
WaterGirl
@narya: I actually do weigh flour, etc. I save measuring for teaspoons and liquids and such.
cain
@gene108: He’s reduced to drinking ketchup and then throwing up on the walls.
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: They won’t let me see it because of my ad blocker. I will take your word for it! :-)
Though why I deserve the punishment of seeing a picture of Marge, I don’t know!
WaterGirl
@Baud: Well then how do I know when to bake my cake???
I kid… I put the chances of not hearing about it from the former guy at about zero.
WaterGirl
@gene108: He might be wearing 6-inch heels. :-)
Another Scott
@WaterGirl: If you open it in a Private Browsing (whatever Safari calls it) tab, you should be able to see it. (It wanted me to subscribe before I used a Private tab.)
HTH!
Cheers,
Scott.
geg6
I am not holding my breath. But I will LOL loudly if it happens.
JoyceH
I’ve been on Weight Watchers for a year (46 pounds, go me!), but I’ve said for a long time that when indictments start falling, I’m calling out for pizza. If it’s just the hush money payment, I think that would just be a medium pizza. My hopes are on Willis and Smith – when their indictments start flying, that will call for a large Extravaganzza, with the brownie-cookie thing and maybe a side of wings. Going to just kick back in the recliner, turn on the news and BASK.
narya
@WaterGirl: I weigh liquids as well, and measure things like salt and baking powder, but vanilla and other stuff just gets thrown in the bowl. I approximate a lot . . .
I assume there will be frosting as well?? (My friend thinks that cake without frosting is a travesty; I’ve taken to making the frosting first, so I don’t have to wash the bowl of the mixer.) My latest frosting adventure was orange (rind and juice) to go with a gingerbread cake that also had dried apricots; I ate ALL of it (he doesn’t like gingerbread).
Mike E
The hanging apparatus in the photo is a speaker/amplifier rig so the crowd can hear Emperor Palpateenyhands’ complaints
ETA Scott got there first, apologies… our symphony hall has the same sound rig
Elizabelle
@gene108: I noticed that too.
@ WaterGirl: I think we are going to see some major development this week. And with or without it — cake
We can start a habit of cake and steps.
trollhattan
PA speaker array, for better yelling into the Texas wind.
God, he looks like shit in that pic. I mean, more so than I’m accustomed to. Yee-haw.
JoyceH
@trollhattan:
The photo also illustrates how small the crowd actually was.
Geminid
I thought that was a banner hanging from the crane behind Trump. At least seemed like one when I first saw it.
cain
@JoyceH: Don’t do it! Make your own – way more healthier than Pizza Hut! Super easy and yummy to make too!
cain
Of course, they had to have at least a pic of what black guy – I think I saw a few – but not a lot. Saw some Hispanics as well.
Jeffro
What is all this ‘cake’ nonsense? Don’t y’all have bottles of bubbly on hand for Indictment Day?
Requires no baking, only takes 10 seconds (tops) to open and pour!
karen marie
I have a recipe for a blueberry almond cake I will write up and post to my blog and link to. It’s so good!
karen marie
@Elizabelle: I’m down for a weekly cake thread.
So many recipes, so little time.
Suzanne
@Jeffro: I do have champagne.
One bottle is a cheapie, but it’s named “Saint-Hilarie”, and it felt apropos.
JoyceH
Open thread digression – did you folks see that there’s been another school shooting? Nashville grade school, six dead, and plot twist – the shooter is a woman.
karen marie
@narya: I recently discovered ermine or boiled milk frosting. It’s better than American buttercream.
Gravenstone
@karen marie: I originally read that as “ermine in boiled milk” and I had sooo many questions.
Jeffro
@JoyceH: Yes. Apparently “putting God back in schools” isn’t going to solve our gun problem, eh GOP?
(it’s a Christian private school)
HumboldtBlue
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
Since this is an open thread and pizza has been mentioned, I just read an article in Esquire about how Chicago “tavern style” pizza is about to take off. I had, until I read the article, no idea what this tavern style pizza was but it sounds A LOT like St. Louis style pizza. Thin, cracker like crust, round pie cut into square pieces. I’m not from St. Louis, or Chicago, so I have no idea which city originated this style of pizza. I will note that in researching Detroit style about a decade ago (when planning a trip to Detroit and trying to decide where to get it) I did come across mention of St. Louis style pizza. I have never had St. Louis style pizza but it was mentioned and described in a few articles about regional pizza variants. I never came a cross a single mention of Chicago tavern style . IF Chicago is trying to lay claim to a style of pizza born in St. Louis I feel the record should be corrected before the “windy city” brags itself into taking undue credit.
Gin & Tonic
@JoyceH: Equal opportunity is good.
scav
@Suzanne: Ha HA! A Blanquette de Limoux or cousin! Our favorite as well, plus a grand town to visit. Any place that keeps Mardi Gras going for a month or more has solid qualities.
Gin & Tonic
@HumboldtBlue: “Efforting”?? “Efforting”!?! Dear Lord. You made that up, didn’t you?
stacib
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: I’ve never heard “tavern style”, but Italian Fiesta has been serving their pizza cut in squares since forever (their website says 1940s). My family has been ordering it since the 60s, and it’s always been square.
Betty Cracker
Netanyahu addressed Israelis today and backed off on holding the “judicial reform” vote. Via CNN:
With apologies to rats, he sounds like a cornered rat.
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: Nope, same thing. That’s okay, don’t worry about it.
WaterGirl
@narya: I am not a frosting girl. Unless it’s whipped cream frosting, or ganache, or the amazing Betty Crocker chocolate frosting an old workmate used to make, I like my cake naked.
HumboldtBlue
@Gin & Tonic:
I almost didn’t post it because of that quote.
@Betty Cracker:
Israelis took the streets in massive protests.
WaterGirl
@karen marie: ooh, blueberries! yum.
StringOnAStick
@Betty Cracker: “Delay” the vote? Yeah Bibi, that will make it all better. I hope the public does not back down.
WaterGirl
@karen marie: Anything is better than american buttercream frosting! :-)
MisterForkbeard
@Betty Cracker: Not even saying “I won’t do it”, just “I’ll wait to do it.”
What an awful dude.
Old School
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:
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WaterGirl
@Gin & Tonic: You beat me to it. I was still too stunned by “effecting” to type anything.
geg6
@stacib:
Ohio Valley style pizza is always square:
https://www.pittsburghmagazine.com/pittsburghs-unique-pizza-styles-and-where-you-can-get-them/
If you read the article, Police Station Pizza is my go-to place.
WaterGirl
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: I love “skinny” pizza and it should absolutely be cut into little squares or rectangles.
JoyceH
@Gin & Tonic:
I can’t help but wonder if a few mass shootings featuring women and minority shooters might loosen the absolutism on passing gun control measures. It’s a historic fact that California governor Reagan signed onto gun control after the Black Panthers started parading around with firearms.
geg6
@WaterGirl:
I don’t like cake or frosting (though I will make an exception for a raspberry almond torte made by a local bakery and plain old gingerbread). But pie…yum, especially fruit pies.
Mustang Bobby
The historic parallel to that image would be if Goebbels ran footage of Kristalnacht on a big screen at a Nuremberg rally.
WaterGirl
@Betty Cracker: I don’t trust him. Weasel words like “delay” or “halt until after the holiday” sounds NOTHING like – okay you win, this is a bad idea, I’m gonna let this go.
Bibi is going to be like the dean of the vet school when I worked there. Faculty got to vote on everything. But if you voted down something he wanted, it came up for a vote again and again and again until he fucking got his way.
Bibi is not going to give this up.
Gravenstone
When did we break English so thoroughly?
WaterGirl
@Mustang Bobby: Totally agree with you.
Trump is dangerous.
Delk
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: 60 year old native Chicagoan and have been eating square cut (with free RC) all my life.
JoyceH
@WaterGirl:
I was just gobsmacked when he came back to power. I thought he was finally finished.
The Moar You Know
@JoyceH: not a chance. We’ve had both.
As a not-as-rare-as-made-out-to-be gun-owning liberal, I’d been living off my stash of target ammo for years. Probably been a decade since I went in a gun store. So I went this weekend.
Shit has changed, and those folks have gotten way more extreme than they used to be. It’s the first time I have ever consciously thought “you really need to watch your mouth in here” and that is a new and very unwelcome dimension to the experience
Product selection’s changed as well. Used to be pistols, hunting rifles, shotguns and maybe a couple of AR type guns. Now it’s pistols and AR battle rifles wall to wall. And this, mind you, is in California.
WaterGirl
If anyone wants to see what Jack Smith looks like without the beard, that’s him in the fly-out on the side. (the flout on the previous post)
WaterGirl
@Delk: Yeah, they were serving skinny pizzas, square (or rectangle) cut in bars in the chicago area when I was in high school.
Betty Cracker
Weird detail from the Nashville school shooting: in the briefing from the official who used “efforting,” he said the shooter “appeared to be a teen,” but Rolling Stone says she’s been identified (name not yet released) and is 28 years old.
prostratedragon
Never heard “tavern style,” but sounds like the first pizza I ever had, in Chicago, back in the baby Delk era. Little place called Enrico’s.
The Moar You Know
@Betty Cracker: pardon the unpleasantness, but when someone shoots themselves in the head it makes it pretty difficult to tell how old that person is.
Josie
@WaterGirl:
Last week I helped my granddaughters (8 and 5) make a white cake from a mix. It was topped with a lemon glaze, and the girls decided to decorate the glaze with strawberries and blueberries. So much better than a frosting could ever be.
thruppence
@Betty Cracker: “appeared to be a teen” by Hollywood standards where actors in their thirties play teens all the time
ETA re: The Moar You Know – oh. eww.
Quinerly
@Betty Cracker:
They have followed up how small she was. Slight statue.
smith
@Delk: Cracker crust, square cut pizza with free RC has been served in my neighborhood for at least 35 years.
Quinerly
@WaterGirl:
I am just getting around to reading his Wiki page. Do not like the 2017 pic of him with the article. Prefer him with his beard.
His wife is a documentary film maker known known for Becoming, the award-winning 2020 documentary of Michelle Obama.
Quinerly
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:
I lived in St.Louis from 1982 to 2022. Cracker thin crust, square pizza with provel cheese is St. Louis pizza. I was appalled when I first had it there at age 21. Grew to love it. Actually, I think the provel cheese is what makes it true St. Louis Pizza. Imo’s is the place that started it, I think. At least it’s the local chain now that delivers it.
*I just checked. St. Louis Style Pizza has its own Wiki page!
redoubtagain
@prostratedragon:
Tavern cut is also what I grew up with in South Shore (Reggio’s, with the butter crust)
raven
@thruppence: Except that is not the case.
S Cerevisiae
Sammy’s, a family owned northern Minnesota chain, has been cutting pizza in squares since the 50’s. Thin crispy crust, homemade secret pizza sauce, great Italian sausage, I think it’s the best pizza in the state and I would put their sauce up with anyone’s. My go-to is the Crew Special.
Old School
@WaterGirl:
Took me a while, but I found it. It’s in the fly-out to move to this page. You can’t see it when you are here.
Renie
My husband recalls square pizza showing up in Brooklyn around the early 1970’s late 1960’s.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
I’m not aware of anyone doing that type of pizza at the moment here in DC but whenever a food trend takes off anywhere someplace here adopts it, so I’m sure it’ll get here eventually. We have several good Neapolitan places scattered about but the one that seems to produce the most original version of pizza not seen elsewhere is an Italian deli in the Cleveland Park neighborhood called Vace.
It’s thinner crust – kind of like Neapolitan or NY style in thickness but the crust, while it has some chew, has much more crunch than NY or Neapolitan. The crust also has a pleasant yeasty tang that I haven’t found in any other style. I wouldn’t call it DC style as most of DC probably isn’t even familiar with the place and it’s the only place that does this pizza (though they are popular enough that there’s two of them – one in the suburb of Bethesda and the one in Cleveland Park). If I ever get wind that they’re closing up shop I’ll have to get that dough recipe from them.
I’m a big fan if you can’t tell. It’s strictly carryout, but there’s a pool haul up the street (Atomic Billiards) that allows customers to carry in food so you can pick up your pie at Vace and then walk it up there and have a couple beers, and play some pool if you like. I suck at pool so I usually just sit at the bar and eat.
UncleEbeneezer
Careful, there might be a Pecker in your cake, lol:
“The Times is reporting that it IS David Pecker that appeared today.”
NotMax
@Gin & Tonic
Textbook example of bluebonics.
Miss Bee
@Quinerly: Efforting to sculpt a slight statue?
Cameron
You can all have your pizza and cake and what not. I got them pudding cups lined up, three fingers spread just so, and I’m ready to rock.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
@Quinerly: Yes it sounds like Chicago is the origin of tavern style and St. Louis style uses a different kind of cheese. It also sounds like the crust may be somewhat different from Chicago tavern style in that it doesn’t contain any yeast whereas it looks like Chicago tavern style does use a yeasted crust, maybe?
I barely knew what Detroit style was despite growing up in Michigan (Grand Rapids so other side of the State) until researching it for that trip, but that has really taken off. We have multiple places that do nothing but Detroit style here in the DC area now, whereas a decade ago NOBODY here even knew it existed.
@geg6: Interesting. I haven’t been to Pittsburg proper since the 1970s when I was a wee lad, but if I ever get back I’ll try one of those places.
Suzanne
@Cameron: That sounds kinky.
SiubhanDuinne
@S Cerevisiae:
and their arms are really tired.
Cameron
@Gravenstone: True. George Bush would have put it much more elegantly: “We are effortamalizeraling to identify this person.”
stacib
@redoubtagain: WHAT??? South Shore and you chose Reggio’s over Italian Fiesta. Off to the fainting couch for me. :-)
NotMax
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
Styles of U.S. pizza.
WaterGirl
@Josie: I’m hungry and now I want that cake
and pizza!
WaterGirl
@Quinerly: Yes 10x better with the beard.
Yeah, Rs tried to make hay with that about the Michelle documentary.
WaterGirl
@Old School: Right. I didn’t mean to goof you up. I updated my comment to be more clear.
Death Panel Truck
@cain: Around our house, “healthier pizza” is an oxymoron.
Pizza isn’t supposed to be healthy (unless you like pizza with chicken, spinach and artichokes on paper-thin crust.) That’s why we only have it on special occasions.
NotMax
@Death Panel Truck
Neighborhood hole-in-the-wall joint when was residing for a time in Queens offered among their choices of toppings thin, breaded and fried strips of eggplant. Super yummy. My go-to from there was a clam, mushroom and eggplant pie.
karen marie
@WaterGirl: I don’t know but that devil’s food cake with American buttercream the second day, when the buttercream’s got a slight crust, isn’t among life’s greatest pleasures.
StringOnAStick
@The Moar You Know: That’s disturbing but also I guess not a huge surprise since their bumper stickers have gotten so angry, hostile and obscene in that time too. Show me what a great evangelical you are by how many “fuck (fill in the liberal here)” stickers are on your jacked up. pickup truck
UncleEbeneezer
@NotMax: Interesting. This is the first time I have ever seen “Greek” as an official style of pizza. Where I grew up in MA, this was the dominant style of pizza we had, locally. Most of our Houses of Pizza were Greek owned.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
I thought a cake watch was what happens when I go out in short shorts.
NotMax
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Many years ago I coined the term beachcake to refer to either gender’s wearing of skimpy swimwear.
:)
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@NotMax: Good practices, both coining terms and wearing skimpy underwear.
WaterGirl
@karen marie: We’re on the left, big tent and all that. :-)
karen marie
@karen marie: I’ve got the cake up!
Blueberry-Almond Cake – it’s the best!
KenK
@Jeffro: perp walk, cake walk… whatever ;)
NotMax
@KenK
Cannot forget Lambeth. Hoy!
:)
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:
It’s St. Louis style and Chicago is being annoying, as usual.
Quinerly
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony:
I thought the Wiki page was cool. It’s all about the cheese, more oregano in sauce, and no yeast in the crust. It’s just not “the square beyond compare.”😉
jimmiraybob
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:
When he was on the campaign trail Obama had a pizza from our St. Louis π (Pi) Pizzaria and raved about it. I believe that he even had some delivered to the WH. I think Chicago was somewhat taken aback by their native son going rogue. I applaud their attempt to compete. Go Cubbies!
Dr. Jakyll and Miss Deride
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: The thin-sliced style cut in squares was never called “tavern style” when I was growing up in the Chicago area, but that’s the authentic Chicago pizza. The deep-dish stuff was invented in a downtown-adjacent restaurant catering to tourists.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@jimmiraybob: They have a π pizza here in DC, because Obama.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Quinerly: 😁
@jimmiraybob: Pi Pizzaria may be a St. Louis restaurant, but it doesn’t sell St. Louis style pizza. In fact, some of its offerings include deep dish, which is considered Chicago style.
The Lodger
@UncleEbeneezer: Better than having one in a bakery box in your lap.
Quinerly
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony:
I never cared for Pi Pizza when I was in St. Louis. Tried it because Obama loved it. I guess the CWE location. Certainly not like St Louis Style Pizza. My first of that was at the now long shuttered, funky Rossino’s on Sarah. Loved that place.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
Efforting?!? It’s another terrible tragedy, and this is trivial, but really, spokesperson?
NotMax
@Dr. Jakyll and Miss Deride
Green Mill? Used to occasionally chow down at their sister place (maybe still there?) in the Twin Cities.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@jimmiraybob: They have a π pizza here in DC, because Obama.
@UncleEbeneezer: Greek pizza is a thing in parts of Michigan.
Weekend Editor
@Baud: There’s a Twitter account called @indictmentsonly which promises not to tweet until the day of an indictment.
So that’s one way to know.
Kosh III
When we moved to San Diego in 83 there was a small chain of places called Square Pan Pizza. Thick crust and cut into squares. Now out of business.
WaterGirl
@Weekend Editor: Yeah, but the person who runs that account, Allison Gill, is no longer part of the government, so unless Trump talks or someone else leaks, she won’t know about an indictment, so it won’t be posted to that twitter feed.