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Cake Watch: Day 1

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It’s possible that today will be a cake day (aka a day to celebrate an indictment).

All 23 grand jurors appear to be in the courtroom, but I am still not measuring my ingredients just yet.

Still, there’s news.  (I started to the noose by mistake – Freudian slip?)

If this image doesn’t give you chills, I don’t know what would.  Footage of the Jan 6 insurrection is playing in the background as Trump appears to stand at attention.  :: shudder ::

What is the thing to the right of the big guy in the photo – it looks like a hangman’s noose to me.  Another reminder of Jan 6?  Surely it’s something else entirely.

Open thread.

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  3. 3.

    Baud

    Even if they indict today, I doubt we’ll learn about it unless Trump’s team leaks it.

  11. 11.

    Another Scott

    @WaterGirl: If you open it in a Private Browsing (whatever Safari calls it) tab, you should be able to see it.  (It wanted me to subscribe before I used a Private tab.)

    HTH!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  13. 13.

    JoyceH

    I’ve been on Weight Watchers for a year (46 pounds, go me!), but I’ve said for a long time that when indictments start falling, I’m calling out for pizza. If it’s just the hush money payment, I think that would just be a medium pizza. My hopes are on Willis and Smith – when their indictments start flying, that will call for a large Extravaganzza, with the brownie-cookie thing and maybe a side of wings. Going to just kick back in the recliner, turn on the news and BASK.

  14. 14.

    narya

    @WaterGirl: I weigh liquids as well, and measure things like salt and baking powder, but vanilla and other stuff just gets thrown in the bowl. I approximate a lot . . .

    I assume there will be frosting as well?? (My friend thinks that cake without frosting is a travesty; I’ve taken to making the frosting first, so I don’t have to wash the bowl of the mixer.) My latest frosting adventure was orange (rind and juice) to go with a gingerbread cake that also had dried apricots; I ate ALL of it (he doesn’t like gingerbread).

  15. 15.

    Mike E

    The hanging apparatus in the photo is a speaker/amplifier rig so the crowd can hear Emperor Palpateenyhands’ complaints

    ETA Scott got there first, apologies… our symphony hall has the same sound rig

  16. 16.

    Elizabelle

    @gene108:   I noticed that too.

    @ WaterGirl:  I think we are going to see some major development this week.  And with or without it — cake

    We can start a habit of cake and steps.

  17. 17.

    trollhattan

    PA speaker array, for better yelling into the Texas wind.

    God, he looks like shit in that pic. I mean, more so than I’m accustomed to. Yee-haw.

  19. 19.

    Geminid

    I thought that was a banner hanging from the crane behind Trump. At least seemed like one when I first saw it.

  21. 21.

    cain

    Of course, they had to have at least a pic of what black guy – I think I saw a few – but not a lot. Saw some Hispanics as well.

  22. 22.

    Jeffro

    What is all this ‘cake’ nonsense?  Don’t y’all have bottles of bubbly on hand for Indictment Day?

    Requires no baking, only takes 10 seconds (tops) to open and pour!

  23. 23.

    karen marie

    I have a recipe for a blueberry almond cake I will write up and post to my blog and link to. It’s so good!

  26. 26.

    JoyceH

    Open thread digression – did you folks see that there’s been another school shooting? Nashville grade school, six dead, and plot twist – the shooter is a woman.

  29. 29.

    Jeffro

    @JoyceH: Yes.  Apparently “putting God back in schools” isn’t going to solve our gun problem, eh GOP?

    (it’s a Christian private school)

  30. 30.

    HumboldtBlue

    Another #schoolshooting, this time at Covenant School, a private Christian school in Green Hills near Nashville, Tennessee. Why do Republicans want to protect people with AR-15s but not our children? Enough of Republican thoughts and prayers.

    BREAKING: Alleged gunman in Nashville school shooting was female who entered through a side entrance of the school, armed with at least “two assault-type rifles and a handgun,” officials say. “We are efforting now to identify her.”

  31. 31.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    Since this is an open thread and pizza has been mentioned, I just read an article in Esquire about how Chicago “tavern style” pizza is about to take off. I had, until I read the article, no idea what this tavern style pizza was but it sounds A LOT like St. Louis style pizza. Thin, cracker like crust, round pie cut into square pieces. I’m not from St. Louis, or Chicago, so I have no idea which city originated this style of pizza. I will note that in researching Detroit style about a decade ago (when planning a trip to Detroit and trying to decide where to get it) I did come across mention of St. Louis style pizza. I have never had St. Louis style pizza but it was mentioned and described in a few articles about regional pizza variants.  I never came a cross a single mention of Chicago tavern style . IF Chicago is trying to lay claim to a style of pizza born in St. Louis I feel the record should be corrected before the “windy city” brags itself into taking undue credit.

  36. 36.

    Betty Cracker

    Netanyahu addressed Israelis today and backed off on holding the “judicial reform” vote. Via CNN:

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he is “aware of the tensions” and is “listening to the people.”

    Referring to the refusal of some Israel Defense Forces reservists to train in protest at the government plans to overhaul the judiciary, Netanyahu said:

    “The state of Israel cannot continue with people who refuse to serve in the army. Refusing, it’s the end of our country.”

    “Out of the responsibility to the nation, I decided to delay … the vote, in order to give time for discussion,” he added.

    With apologies to rats, he sounds like a cornered rat.

  38. 38.

    WaterGirl

    @narya: I am not a frosting girl.  Unless it’s whipped cream frosting, or ganache, or the amazing Betty Crocker chocolate frosting an old workmate used to make, I like my cake naked.

  44. 44.

    Old School

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:

    IF Chicago is trying to lay claim to a style of pizza born in St. Louis I feel the record should be corrected before the “windy city” brags itself into taking undue credit.

    ..

    Where Was Tavern Pizza Invented?

    Even though the deep pan pizza is synonymous with Chicago, the tavern style pizza was actually the first style of pizza to come out of the city.

    As we’ve mentioned above, tavern style pizza became a popular invention after the prohibition era, and once people had noticed that pizza was a popular dish in New York.

    Tavern style pizza originated in several pizzerias throughout Chicago, so it’s hard to pinpoint where exactly it originated.

    However, it definitely originated in the city of Chicago, and was often given out to patrons on napkins to try and encourage them to stay and drink more beer in the bar.

  48. 48.

    JoyceH

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Equal opportunity is good.

    I can’t help but wonder if a few mass shootings featuring women and minority shooters might loosen the absolutism on passing gun control measures. It’s a historic fact that California governor Reagan signed onto gun control after the Black Panthers started parading around with firearms.

  49. 49.

    geg6

    @WaterGirl: ​
     
    I don’t like cake or frosting (though I will make an exception for a raspberry almond torte made by a local bakery and plain old gingerbread). But pie…yum, especially fruit pies.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    @Betty Cracker:  I don’t trust him.  Weasel words like “delay” or “halt until after the holiday” sounds NOTHING like – okay you win, this is a bad idea, I’m gonna let this go.

    Bibi is going to be like the dean of the vet school when I worked there.  Faculty got to vote on everything.  But if you voted down something he wanted, it came up for a vote again and again and again until he fucking got his way.

    Bibi is not going to give this up.

  56. 56.

    The Moar You Know

    I can’t help but wonder if a few mass shootings featuring women and minority shooters might loosen the absolutism on passing gun control measures.

    @JoyceH: not a chance.  We’ve had both.

    As a not-as-rare-as-made-out-to-be gun-owning liberal, I’d been living off my stash of target ammo for years.  Probably been a decade since I went in a gun store.  So I went this weekend.

    Shit has changed, and those folks have gotten way more extreme than they used to be.  It’s the first time I have ever consciously thought “you really need to watch your mouth in here” and that is a new and very unwelcome dimension to the experience

    Product selection’s changed as well.  Used to be pistols, hunting rifles, shotguns and maybe a couple of AR type guns.  Now it’s pistols and AR battle rifles wall to wall.  And this, mind you, is in California.

  57. 57.

    WaterGirl

    If anyone wants to see what Jack Smith looks like without the beard, that’s him in the fly-out on the side. (the flout on the previous post)

  59. 59.

    Betty Cracker

    Weird detail from the Nashville school shooting: in the briefing from the official who used “efforting,” he said the shooter “appeared to be a teen,” but Rolling Stone says she’s been identified (name not yet released) and is 28 years old.

  60. 60.

    prostratedragon

    Never heard “tavern style,” but sounds like the first pizza I ever had, in Chicago, back in the baby Delk era. Little place called Enrico’s.

  62. 62.

    Josie

    @WaterGirl: ​
     Last week I helped my granddaughters (8 and 5) make a white cake from a mix. It was topped with a lemon glaze, and the girls decided to decorate the glaze with strawberries and blueberries. So much better than a frosting could ever be.

  63. 63.

    thruppence

    @Betty Cracker: “appeared to be a teen” by Hollywood standards where actors in their thirties play teens all the time

    ETA re: The Moar You Know – oh. eww.

  66. 66.

    Quinerly

    @WaterGirl:

    I am just getting around to reading his Wiki page. Do not like the 2017 pic of him with the article. Prefer him with his beard.

    His wife is a documentary film maker known known for Becoming, the award-winning 2020 documentary of  Michelle Obama.

  67. 67.

    Quinerly

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:

    I lived in St.Louis from 1982 to 2022. Cracker thin crust, square pizza with provel cheese is St. Louis pizza. I was appalled when I first had it there at age 21. Grew to love it. Actually, I think the provel cheese is what makes it true St. Louis Pizza. Imo’s is the place that started it, I think. At least it’s the local chain now that delivers it.

    *I just checked. St. Louis Style Pizza has its own Wiki page!

  70. 70.

    S Cerevisiae

    Sammy’s, a family owned northern Minnesota chain, has been cutting pizza in squares since the 50’s. Thin crispy crust, homemade secret pizza sauce, great Italian sausage, I think it’s the best pizza in the state and I would put their sauce up with anyone’s. My go-to is the Crew Special.

  71. 71.

    Old School

    @WaterGirl:

    If anyone wants to see what Jack Smith looks like without the beard, that’s him in the fly-out on the side.

    Took me a while, but I found it.  It’s in the fly-out to move to this page.  You can’t see it when you are here.

  72. 72.

    Renie

    My husband recalls square pizza showing up in Brooklyn around the early 1970’s late 1960’s.

  73. 73.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    I’m not aware of anyone doing that type of pizza at the moment here in DC but whenever a food trend takes off anywhere someplace here adopts it, so I’m sure it’ll get here eventually. We have several good Neapolitan places scattered about but the one that seems to produce the most original version of pizza not seen elsewhere is an Italian deli in the Cleveland Park neighborhood called Vace.

    It’s thinner crust – kind of like Neapolitan or NY style in thickness but the crust, while it has some chew, has much more crunch than NY or Neapolitan. The crust also has a pleasant yeasty tang that I haven’t found in any other style. I wouldn’t call it DC style as most of DC probably isn’t even familiar with the place and it’s the only place that does this pizza (though they are popular enough that there’s two of them – one in the suburb of Bethesda and the one in Cleveland Park). If I ever get wind that they’re closing up shop I’ll have to get that dough recipe from them.

    I’m a big fan if you can’t tell. It’s strictly carryout, but there’s a pool haul up the street (Atomic Billiards) that allows customers to carry in food so you can pick up your pie at Vace and then walk it up there and have a couple beers, and play some pool if you like. I suck at pool so I usually just sit at the bar and eat.

  74. 74.

    UncleEbeneezer

    Careful, there might be a Pecker in your cake, lol:

    “The Times is reporting that it IS David Pecker that appeared today.”

  77. 77.

    Cameron

    You can all have your pizza and cake and what not.  I got them pudding cups lined up, three fingers spread just so, and I’m ready to rock.

  78. 78.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @Quinerly: Yes it sounds like Chicago is the origin of tavern style and St. Louis style uses a different kind of cheese. It also sounds like the crust may be somewhat different from Chicago tavern style in that it doesn’t contain any yeast whereas it looks like Chicago tavern style does use a yeasted crust, maybe?

    I barely knew what Detroit style was despite growing up in Michigan (Grand Rapids so other side of the State) until researching it for that trip, but that has really taken off. We have multiple places that do nothing but Detroit style here in the DC area now, whereas a decade ago NOBODY here even knew it existed.

     

    @geg6: Interesting. I haven’t been to Pittsburg proper since the 1970s when I was a wee lad, but if I ever get back I’ll try one of those places.

  80. 80.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @S Cerevisiae:

    Sammy’s, a family owned northern Minnesota chain, has been cutting pizza in squares since the 50’s

    and their arms are really tired.

  87. 87.

    Death Panel Truck

    @cain: Around our house, “healthier pizza” is an oxymoron.

    Pizza isn’t supposed to be healthy (unless you like pizza with chicken, spinach and artichokes on paper-thin crust.) That’s why we only have it on special occasions.

  88. 88.

    NotMax

    @Death Panel Truck

    Neighborhood hole-in-the-wall joint when was residing for a time in Queens offered among their choices of toppings thin, breaded and fried strips of eggplant. Super yummy. My go-to from there was a clam, mushroom and eggplant pie.

  89. 89.

    karen marie

    @WaterGirl: I don’t know but that devil’s food cake with American buttercream the second day, when the buttercream’s got a slight crust, isn’t among life’s greatest pleasures.

  90. 90.

    StringOnAStick

    @The Moar You Know: That’s disturbing but also I guess not a huge surprise since their bumper stickers have gotten so angry, hostile and obscene in that time too.  Show me what a great evangelical you are by how many “fuck (fill in the liberal here)” stickers are on your jacked up. pickup truck

  91. 91.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @NotMax: Interesting.  This is the first time I have ever seen “Greek” as an official style of pizza.  Where I grew up in MA, this was the dominant style of pizza we had, locally.  Most of our Houses of Pizza were Greek owned.

  92. 92.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    I thought a cake watch was what happens when I go out in short shorts.

  101. 101.

    jimmiraybob

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: ​
     

    “I just read an article in Esquire about how Chicago “tavern style” pizza is about to take off. I had, until I read the article, no idea what this tavern style pizza was but it sounds A LOT like St. Louis style pizza.”

    When he was on the campaign trail Obama had a pizza from our St. Louis π (Pi) Pizzaria and raved about it. I believe that he even had some delivered to the WH. I think Chicago was somewhat taken aback by their native son going rogue. I applaud their attempt to compete. Go Cubbies!

  102. 102.

    Dr. Jakyll and Miss Deride

    @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: The thin-sliced style cut in squares was never called “tavern style” when I was growing up in the Chicago area, but that’s the authentic Chicago pizza.  The deep-dish stuff was invented in a downtown-adjacent restaurant catering to tourists.

  104. 104.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    @Quinerly: 😁

    @jimmiraybob: Pi Pizzaria may be a St. Louis restaurant, but it doesn’t sell St. Louis style pizza. In fact, some of its offerings include deep dish, which is considered Chicago style.

  106. 106.

    Quinerly

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony:

    I never cared for Pi Pizza when I was in St. Louis. Tried it because Obama loved it. I guess the CWE location. Certainly not like St Louis Style Pizza. My first of that was at the now long shuttered, funky Rossino’s on Sarah. Loved that place.

  107. 107.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

     “We are efforting now to identify her.”

    Efforting?!? It’s another terrible tragedy, and this is trivial, but really, spokesperson?

  111. 111.

    Kosh III

    When we moved to San Diego in 83 there was a small chain of places called Square Pan Pizza.  Thick crust and cut into squares.  Now out of business.

  112. 112.

    WaterGirl

    @Weekend Editor: Yeah, but the person who runs that account, Allison Gill, is no longer part of the government, so unless Trump talks or someone else leaks, she won’t know about an indictment, so it won’t be posted to that twitter feed.

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