None of this stuff works without validation from journalists and centrist dipshits. Good job https://t.co/fQs3KjykvE
— Atrios (@Atrios) April 16, 2023
14,000 words on A1 about whether trans kids are transitioning too easily… but when trans healthcare gets banned (and when the ban cites NYT reporting), it’s buried on A17. https://t.co/ZGQmNEwSxj
— Montucky Woodsnacks (@tuckwoodstock) April 15, 2023
yeah it’s truly a mystery how this one happened https://t.co/pdBitMJh40 https://t.co/aGh5k3QfhR pic.twitter.com/rFtwgzaVU7
— jackjmirkinson (@jackjmirkinson) April 16, 2023
The GOP Death Cult needs a fekkin’ toe tag…
I'm glad we can agree you're all a bunch of losers who had to resort to bullying 0.3% of the population to cover for all your other failures. https://t.co/52sthAjMUo
— Slope Slipperer (@agraybee) April 17, 2023
Bullies picked a fight and lost and so they looked for a smaller, less numerous, more marginal group to bully and demonize. This is what bullies always do. It’s part of why all decent people despise bullies. https://t.co/fVxP8eikTb
— SlacktivistFred’s 1611 Project (@SlacktivistFred) April 17, 2023
“So the bathroom tactic failed, but don’t worry, we’re gonna find another way to ruin people’s lives.” pic.twitter.com/SIYNXwVToC
— ??Ghost Maggie ?? (@maggieserota) April 16, 2023
The left aren’t the ones who are uncertain about this! They’re campaigning against what the right is doing and winning! Republicans are the ones trying to push this issue and losing by 15 points in Pennsylvania!
— ettingermentum (@ettingermentum) April 16, 2023
Mike Pence’s popularity as governor of Indiana, a religious red state, took a substantial hit in spring 2015 after he signed a bill legalizing discrimination against gay and trans people. the backlash was so severe that MIKE PENCE signed an anti-discrimination bill one week later
— knife-wielding hemophiliac (@NickTagliaferro) April 16, 2023
you don’t have to be enlightened on trans issues to be skeeved out by toilet policing or school genital inspections lol
— knife-wielding hemophiliac (@NickTagliaferro) April 16, 2023
I don’t know how anyone who isn’t a Republican operative could look at the political record of transphobia post-2022 and be like “liberals in disarray, republicans in touch with real Americans” but the New York Times always manages to accomplish the impossible
— ettingermentum (@ettingermentum) April 16, 2023
When Massachusetts approved same-sex marriage, the opposition among normie voters evaporated almost immediately. Once people saw that what other people chose didn’t affect their lives (except maybe by making some of the people they knew happier), that boogey monster collapsed like a failed inflatable. As more and more voters have transgender family / friends / acquaintances, those scare stories are failing, too.
There used to be a media concensus that Democrats wanted to ‘meddle in peoples’ lives’, promoting wild-eyed concepts like civil rights and gender equality. But now that it’s their beloved Republicans wanting to police everybody’s bathroom preferences, ‘privacy’ has become a Democratic touchstone!
Lots of people have a vested interest in denying this but this is the median voter on LGBTQ issueshttps://t.co/oeCYw5nyMe
— Zack Budryk (@BudrykZack) April 16, 2023
Baud
Equality and human dignity aren’t new causes for the left.
ETA: It’s been LGBT for as long as I can remember.
danielx
Also why Pence’s political career was headed over a cliff before he was selected by TFG. Pence’s political career is over, or so would be my guess. He’s sure not going to garner many votes from MAGAts, a lot of whom wanted to see him swinging from a rope after January 6th.
MazeDancer
NYT might as well be J.K. Rowling
twbrandt
I’ve kept my FTNYT sub because much of its non-political reporting is excellent (and I like the cooking section). But I am really close to canceling.
OzarkHillbilly
I’m working on a letter to my state Rep, Sens, US Rep, US Sens. I doubt it will be very persuasive of anything other than the fact that I think they are a bunch of cowardly WATB snowflakes who know their shit won’t stand up in a court of law but one does what one can. I’ll post it up when it’s done.
C Stars
I followed a story last week in which a freelancer on assignment for the NYT sent out letters to pediatricians asking if they want to speak with him on the record about any misgivings they might have about providing gender affirming care. He specifies in the letter that he is NOT looking for doctors who have experience treating trans patients or expertise in this field. Can you fucking imagine? They were planning to publish an article based quotes by people WITHOUT experience treating trans kids but who DO have reservations about the idea. Anyway, the letter was published on Twitter and the NYT dropped the story, which, yay, I guess, but it’s only a matter of time until they come out with another similarly trollish article by an anti-trans person, espousing the views of anti-trans doctors. It’s freaking infuriating.
kindness
Can we stop referring to the GD NY Times as the Paper Of Record? They’re really just Fox News in print.
trollhattan
Since becoming Speaker of the House, owner of Chelsea F.C., and Dean of the Harvard Divinity School, it was only a matter of when, and not if George Santos was announcing for reelection.
Baud
@C Stars:
A Juicer’s daughter is a reporter and got contacted by the NYT to find women attending a Woman’s March who were disappointed in Biden. That was the assignment. She turned it down.
Cameron
@Baud: Remember, it’s Doughy Pantload who wrote that, so he’s still pimping that Liberal Fascism thing.
WaterGirl
@twbrandt: Close only counts in bean bag and horseshoes.
Cameron
@kindness: What, what? The New York Times, flagship of Our Liberal Media?
WaterGirl
@OzarkHillbilly: If your letter is good, and I know it will be, send me a copy? I could front-page it and perhaps it will inspire some other folks to steal your language – or at least give them a head start – on doing a letter of their own. :-)
Baud
Agree. Dems in general have been solid.
patrick II
@Baud:
That is exactly correct. Well said.
I would give you one of those thumbs-up icons if I knew how.
JPL
@OzarkHillbilly: After the slaying of children at Sandy Hook, I wrote my Senators and the one I received a reply from was Saxby. He then resigned so didn’t take any action. It’s still worth stating a position.
btw Saxby is Senator Chambliss
Gin & Tonic
To those of you who follow this sort of thing (and you know who you are, don’t you?) it looks like another careless smoking incident in russia.
mrmoshpotato
Did DougJ take over the real NYT Twitter account?
Or can the New York Times go fuck itself into the Sun?
What an absolutely weasely, deplorable tweet.
Gin & Tonic
@WaterGirl: And nuclear bombs.
Baud
@mrmoshpotato:
I’ve noticed you really hate the sun for some reason.
Baud
@patrick II:
👍
twbrandt
@WaterGirl: And atomic bombs
ETA: G&T beat me to it
mrmoshpotato
@kindness:
Can we start calling them the Paper of Shit?
Baud
@twbrandt:
Not I.
twbrandt
@Baud: fixed
C Stars
@Baud: There’s got a be a word for this kind of reporting–just absolutely calculating and deceitful. Like push polls but…push reporting? I dunno. The NYT certainly specializes in it.
gwangung
@mrmoshpotato: The Toilet Paper of Record?
Gin & Tonic
@Baud: I would have been happy to share the credit with a future President. Might have leveraged that into a nice Ambassadorship.
C Stars
Imagine if the NYT had thrown the same kind of weight around in support of gun control. Imagine the lives that might have been saved! And the trans kids and families who would have been able to go about their lives without having to move out of state or sue their elected representatives…
mrmoshpotato
@Baud: It’s currently 37 degrees in Chicago. The Sun hates us.
mrmoshpotato
@gwangung: Works too.
Baud
@Gin & Tonic:
Would you prefer Ukraine for the personal connection or Russia so you can officially spit in Putin’s face with full diplomatic immunity?
terraformer
As Atrios alluded to, it’s arguable most of this could’ve been stopped in its tracks if the press and media, or at least enough of them, would explicitly include both the context and the practical impacts of Republican ideas and policies
i mean, the power of just one of them to say something like “OMG look at what Republicans are doing, things that 89% of Americans (and most Republicans) don’t support – but they’re doing it anyway, upending the lives and dreams of millions of Americans – and here’s 5 people in 5 different states and their stories”
but, it’s “look at what Republicans are doing ahead of the next election, Democrats cry foul” tripe
mrmoshpotato
@C Stars: Or actually reporting on what a deplorable POS Dump is back in 2015.
Lapassionara
It’s the getting in between a doctor and a patient that is so astonishingly cruel and disgusting. Genital inspections. What a nightmare for these families.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@kindness:
The New Fox Times?
Geminid
@mrmoshpotato:It’s not as cold here, just down in the 50s. But I figure.you Chicagland residents are used to it!
OzarkHillbilly
@WaterGirl: I doubt it will be anymore persuasive to a GQP than a Betty Cracker post, but I’m gonna try to be constructive.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAhheh… 10,000 unemployed comediens and here I am givin’ it away for free.
NanaR
@twbrandt: I ended my subscription to FTFNYT a few years ago. I just pay for Cooking Section subscription.
HumboldtBlue
O/T but important.
Baud
@HumboldtBlue:
Good.
twbrandt
@NanaR: ooh, I didn’t know you could do that. Thanks for the tip
mrmoshpotato
@Geminid: LOL! It’s 37 degrees – in mid-April!
prostratedragon
@Geminid: It was 80 Friday. Mind, frost any time till mid-May wouldn’t be a shock.
different-church-lady
“Normalizing Fascism since 1938″*
(*at the least)
patrick II
@Baud:
show-off
Baud
For some reason, Google now things I’m into archeology.
different-church-lady
@mrmoshpotato:
Today global warming is fake. But it was 80 degrees in Boston on Thursday, so global warming was real last week.
Baud
@patrick II:
💪
different-church-lady
@NanaR:
Is that why they keep spamming my Google address (with Google’s permission) with cooking section pitches? It’s the only thing they’re going to have left if they keep it up.
WaterGirl
@Gin & Tonic: That’s a real shame.
Dan B
@HumboldtBlue: Excellent news. The poor teenager may have a lifetime of pain.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Gin & Tonic:
Teenage love and hand grenades, too. Also.
WaterGirl
@mrmoshpotato: The Former Paper of Record
different-church-lady
@kindness:
Look, the NYT is all kinds of problematic right now, but for fucks sake they’re not that evil.
HumboldtBlue
@mrmoshpotato:
That’s because BG was gloating last week about how it was so lovely and warm and sunny and pointing and laughing, and Mother Nature saw him. I admit I ratted him out because I told him last Wednesday that it would be snowing by Sunday, and I was correct, as always.
Dan B
@mrmoshpotato: Where I grew up ten miles west of Akron we had snow frequently at the end of April and had 3″ on June 3rd one year.
different-church-lady
There’s those “Some Democrats” again.
One day we’ll find out who they are, but today isn’t that day.
WaterGirl
@patrick II: You can just copy someone else’s emoji – paste it somewhere you know to look for it, and then paste it into a comment here whenever you like.
WaterGirl
@Dan B: Pain is highly likely, trauma is certain.
Danielx
@Cameron:
Also known as Jabba the Hack.
Jacqueline Squid Onassis
FTFNYT is just all-in on getting more trans kids to die. I wish I could say I was surprised.
Danielx
@prostratedragon:
Fawwwk, it was 80 on Saturday, 36 when I got up this morning, snowing at noon, frost warning tonight. So much for flowering trees, dammit.
Dan B
@WaterGirl: True. I believe there was a Go Fund Me for him that already raised a million dollars. I hope he gets lots of counseling.
Dan B
My partner was in D.C. years ago. The cherries were in full bloom and then a hail storm. All gone…
sab
@Dan B: In Akron I always heard the rule of thumb was to expect frosts until at least after Mothers Day.
different-church-lady
@Danielx: On the plus side, roses love this kind of stuff.
Salty Sam
I married my first wife in the Zilker Rose Garden in Austin, in April- we had the rehearsal on a Saturday morning, and everyone involved was exclaiming how beautifully the roses were blooming. We had not been informed that the Men’s Garden Club (responsible for the Rose Garden maintenance) would be pruning all those beautiful blooms that afternoon.
We showed up Sunday to be married in “The Stub Garden”.
Baud
Via reddit.
Steeplejack
@OzarkHillbilly:
When you do your hilarious endless HAHAHA thing it breaks the margin on the post and makes editing a comment hard on some devices. Shorten it up, please; 20 or so characters is plenty. We get it that you’re laughing!
mrmoshpotato
@Dan B: Sign of the apocalypse. Also, sign that I should make dinner.
evodevo
@Dan B: Yep…in KY Walmart makes bucks on selling tomato and pepper plants the last couple weeks in April…invariably blackberry winter freezes them the 12th of May, and then everyone has to replant LOL – never plant anything here in the northern half of the state till after then. And one year it frosted the 4th week in May and killed all the newly transplanted tobacco plants…
karen marie
I clicked through to look at the page because I wanted to see which governor had paid over $2 million for speechwriters (Hochul – yawn) – couldn’t read enough, so I googled it and inadvertently discovered that in 2022 the US government was shelling out $2 million a month for security for Pompeo and “a former top aide.”
At least as of January 2023, we’re still paying for that specific Individual-1 administration fiasco.
karen marie
@Gin & Tonic: It’s a 39-hour drive from Kyiv to Tyumen.
From wikipedia:
I’d guess it’s just your common industrial accident.
karen marie
@different-church-lady: They put peas in guacamole. I’m not paying for their recipes.
prostratedragon
@Danielx: Ooo, yeah, must remember to check the apple blossoms down the street to see if they’re making it. All over town Friday trees wereblooming, daffodils and some other earlier flower were out.
karen marie
@terraformer: How about they simply quote Rufo’s statement after his success with “critical race theory” that he was pulling this shit out of his ass to help Republicans?
I mean, he directly and specifically boasted that it was all bullshit. Why is anyone pretending any of this nonsense is legitimate?
Mike in NC
I did like seeing those NYT pages showing a photo of Trump above an article about “mobster’s son gets life sentence”. Fitting!
James E Powell
@Gin & Tonic:
One of my favorite lines from The Maltese Falcon
The Fat Man “Wilmer went about the boat, trying to find the Falcon. No doubt, he was careless with matches.”
James E Powell
@C Stars:
Over the years, for reasons I never understood myself, I ended up dating three different women in the TV news business. All three described this kind of reporting as pretty standard operating procedure. That is, the people they talk to & whose faces & voices are part of “the story” are filling in blanks that were left open for them by whoever it is that wants the story. Usually the news director.
J R in WV
@different-church-lady:
IIRC, the FTFNYT first loved them some nice Mr Hitler in 1922, according to their archives. So way before 1938!!
Glidwrith
@Steeplejack: Hey, answered your question down thread…
Kristine
@twbrandt: I struggled because I enjoyed their science writers (and their food section). But last year they finally broke me.
RaflW
@Baud: I served a short stint on the board of the U.T. Austin GLSA (Gay and Lesbian Students Association)… in 1990-91. But yeah, quite soon after that most everyone shifted to include BTQ (and put the L first).
Not without some ugliness from some “respectability gays”, who probably ran off to be Log Closet Republicans when we Acted Up on ’em.
RaflW
@JPL: I wrote to multiple senators about blue slips in Judiciary, and how stupid and anti-progress they are. As a person with some resources, I was able to write using my local address in three states.
Amy K got back to me very quickly, complementing me on my enthusiastic grasp of issues (cleverly written, Klobuchar staffer!).
It’s been months since, and bupkis till yesterday, when I got a marginally coherent form letter from Michael Bennett that says “thanks for contacting my office”, in effect, but has nothing to say about the issue I raised. Harrumph.
Sen.s Tina Smith and Tammy Baldwin have yet to respond.
Jeffro
@C Stars: “push reporting” is good.
“biased” also works, but “push reporting” is better…you start to see what they’re trying to get you think/feel that much quicker.
Jeffro
The GOP operatives looking for something, ANYTHING to rile up their base…I almost get that. Not an excuse but a reason.
The fucking press (NYT most especially)? That’s not. their. job. It’s not on them to try and keep the horse race going, it’s not like lives aren’t at stake, it’s not like there aren’t a million other ways to look at what the GOP is doing.
“Shrinking, flailing movement scrambles to adjust after fellow citizens declared normal.”
“Feeling deflated, GOP tires and nearly retires.”
“What was all that anti-gay shit ABOUT, anyway?”
“Here’s who profits every time the GOP whips up anti-(out-group) hysteria…”
TriassicSands
@twbrandt:
If the Times were nothing but political coverage, it would be almost entirely disposable at this point. It does, at times come up with some very worthwhile political coverage, but its inability to acknowledge — in its reporting — that the Republican Party is not a responsible governing partner trying to improve life for most Americans represents a catastrophic journalistic failure.
There is much in the Times that is worthwhile, but only rarely now does that appear in political coverage. The Editorial Board is laughable, as is the Post’s Editorial Board. Nowhere does privilege reek quite so strongly as in the pronouncements from the EBs of those two papers. Of course, I’m not reading any right wing garbage these days (except a rare Op-Ed column that never seem to offer anything truly worthwhile), so perhaps there are EBs out there that make the Times and Post folks look like pikers.
Steeplejack
@Glidwrith:
Thanks, saw it! I always circle back.
SuzieC
@twbrandt: You can subscribe to the cooking section for $5.00 a month. However, the WaPo cooking section is better and the subscription to the FTFNYT allows them to send you begging emails every single day.
James E Powell
The NYT created the entire bullshit Whitewater “scandal” that was a drag on the Clinton administration & led to his impeachment.
The NYT led the War on Gore that put Bush in the White House and Roberts & Alito on the supreme court.
The NYT’s 20 year smear campaign against Hillary Clinton put Trump in the White House and Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett on the supreme court.
Those recipes must be really fucking awesome.
Sister Golden Bear
A belated THANK YOU Anne for highlighting this. Just getting to the thread now.
Sister Golden Bear
@C Stars:
The FTFNYT editors are trying to will the anti-trans moral panic into being taken up by normies.
brantl
@karen marie: How much would it cost to advertise that we’d pay them to take him?