Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

He really is that stupid.

Welcome to day five of every-bit-as-bad-as-you-thought-it-would-be.

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

This isn’t Democrats spending madly. This is government catching up.

Of course you can have champagne before noon. That’s why orange juice was invented.

Roe is not about choice. It is about freedom.

If you are still in the gop, you are either an extremist yourself, or in bed with those who are.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

America is going up in flames. The NYTimes fawns over MAGA celebrities. No longer a real newspaper.

“In the future, this lab will be a museum. do not touch it.”

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

A tremendous foreign policy asset… to all of our adversaries.

The republican caucus is covering themselves with something, and it is not glory.

It is possible to do the right thing without the promise of a cookie.

Books are my comfort food!

I really should read my own blog.

“Perhaps I should have considered other options.” (head-desk)

Dumb motherfuckers cannot understand a consequence that most 4 year olds have fully sorted out.

Dear Washington Post, you are the darkness now.

Dear media: perhaps we ought to let Donald Trump speak for himself!

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

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Monday Evening Open Thread: The NYTimes Editorial Board Needs An Intervention

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The GOP Death Cult needs a fekkin’ toe tag…


When Massachusetts approved same-sex marriage, the opposition among normie voters evaporated almost immediately. Once people saw that what other people chose didn’t affect their lives (except maybe by making some of the people they knew happier), that boogey monster collapsed like a failed inflatable. As more and more voters have transgender family / friends / acquaintances, those scare stories are failing, too.

There used to be a media concensus that Democrats wanted to ‘meddle in peoples’ lives’, promoting wild-eyed concepts like civil rights and gender equality. But now that it’s their beloved Republicans wanting to police everybody’s bathroom preferences, ‘privacy’ has become a Democratic touchstone!

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    it was the left’s success and need for a new cause

    Equality and human dignity aren’t new causes for the left.

    ETA: It’s been LGBT for as long as I can remember.

  2. 2.

    danielx

    Mike Pence’s popularity as governor of Indiana, a religious red state, took a substantial hit in spring 2015 after he signed a bill legalizing discrimination against gay and trans people. the backlash was so severe that MIKE PENCE signed an anti-discrimination bill one week later
    — knife-wielding hemophiliac (@NickTagliaferro) April 16, 2023

    Also why Pence’s political career was headed over a cliff before he was selected by TFG. Pence’s political career is over, or so would be my guess. He’s sure not going to garner many votes from MAGAts, a lot of whom wanted to see him swinging from a rope after January 6th.

  4. 4.

    twbrandt

    I’ve kept my FTNYT sub because much of its non-political reporting is excellent (and I like the cooking section). But I am really close to canceling.

  5. 5.

    OzarkHillbilly

    I’m working on a letter to my state Rep, Sens, US Rep, US Sens. I doubt it will be very persuasive of anything other than the fact that I think they are a bunch of cowardly WATB snowflakes who know their shit won’t stand up in a court of law but one does what one can. I’ll post it up when it’s done.

  6. 6.

    C Stars

    I followed a story last week in which a freelancer on assignment for the NYT sent out letters to pediatricians asking if they want to speak with him on the record about any misgivings they might have about providing gender affirming care. He specifies in the letter that he is NOT looking for doctors who have experience treating trans patients or expertise in this field. Can you fucking imagine? They were planning to publish an article based quotes by people WITHOUT experience treating trans kids but who DO have reservations about the idea. Anyway, the letter was published on Twitter and the NYT dropped the story, which, yay, I guess, but it’s only a matter of time until they come out with another similarly trollish article by an anti-trans person, espousing the views of anti-trans doctors. It’s freaking infuriating.

  7. 7.

    kindness

    Can we stop referring to the GD NY Times as the Paper Of Record?  They’re really just Fox News in print.

  8. 8.

    trollhattan

    Since becoming Speaker of the House, owner of Chelsea F.C., and Dean of the Harvard Divinity School, it was only a matter of when, and not if George Santos was announcing for reelection.

    April 17, 2023 at 3:52 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard

    Rep. George Santos (R-NY). whose unexpected victory in November was quickly marred by revelations that he had lied or exaggerated about virtually his entire biography on the campaign trail, announced Monday that he was running for re-election, the New York Times reports.

  9. 9.

    Baud

    @C Stars:

    A Juicer’s daughter is a reporter and got contacted by the NYT to find women attending a Woman’s March who were disappointed in Biden.  That was the assignment. She turned it down.

  13. 13.

    WaterGirl

    @OzarkHillbilly: If your letter is good, and I know it will be, send me a copy?  I could front-page it and perhaps it will inspire some other folks to steal your language – or at least give them a head start – on doing a letter of their own. :-)

  14. 14.

    Baud

    The left aren’t the ones who are uncertain about this!

    Agree. Dems in general have been solid.

  16. 16.

    JPL

    @OzarkHillbilly: After the slaying of children at Sandy Hook, I wrote my Senators and the one I received a reply from was Saxby.  He then resigned so didn’t take any action.   It’s still worth stating a position.

     

    btw Saxby is Senator Chambliss

  18. 18.

    mrmoshpotato

    Defeated on same-sex marriage, the religious right went searching for an issue that would re-energize supporters and donors. Now, the pace of the campaign against transgender rights has stunned political leaders across the spectrum.

    Did DougJ take over the real NYT Twitter account?

    Or can the New York Times go fuck itself into the Sun?

    What an absolutely weasely, deplorable tweet.

  23. 23.

    mrmoshpotato

    @kindness:

    Can we stop referring to the GD NY Times as the Paper Of Record? They’re really just Fox News in print. 

    Can we start calling them the Paper of Shit?

  26. 26.

    C Stars

    @Baud: There’s got a be a word for this kind of reporting–just absolutely calculating and deceitful. Like push polls but…push reporting? I dunno. The NYT certainly specializes in it.

  28. 28.

    Gin & Tonic

    @Baud: I would have been happy to share the credit with a future President. Might have leveraged that into a nice Ambassadorship.

  29. 29.

    C Stars

    Imagine if the NYT had thrown the same kind of weight around in support of gun control. Imagine the lives that might have been saved! And the trans kids and families who would have been able to go about their lives without having to move out of state or sue their elected representatives…

  32. 32.

    Baud

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Would you prefer Ukraine for the personal connection or Russia so you can officially spit in Putin’s face with full diplomatic immunity?

  33. 33.

    terraformer

    As Atrios alluded to, it’s arguable most of this could’ve been stopped in its tracks if the press and media, or at least enough of them, would explicitly include both the context and the practical impacts of Republican ideas and policies

    i mean, the power of just one of them to say something like “OMG look at what Republicans are doing, things that 89% of Americans (and most Republicans) don’t support – but they’re doing it anyway, upending the lives and dreams of millions of Americans – and here’s 5 people in 5 different states and their stories”

    but, it’s “look at what Republicans are doing ahead of the next election, Democrats cry foul” tripe

  35. 35.

    Lapassionara

    It’s the getting in between a doctor and a patient that is so astonishingly cruel and disgusting. Genital inspections. What a nightmare for these families.

  38. 38.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @WaterGirl: I doubt it will be anymore persuasive to a GQP than a Betty Cracker post, but I’m gonna try to be constructive.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAhheh… 10,000 unemployed comediens and here I am givin’ it away for free.

  50. 50.

    different-church-lady

    @NanaR: ​
      Is that why they keep spamming my Google address (with Google’s permission) with cooking section pitches? It’s the only thing they’re going to have left if they keep it up.

  56. 56.

    HumboldtBlue

    @mrmoshpotato:

    That’s because BG was gloating last week about how it was so lovely and warm and sunny and pointing and laughing, and Mother Nature saw him. I admit I ratted him out because I told him last Wednesday that it would be snowing by Sunday, and I was correct, as always.

  58. 58.

    different-church-lady

    Though some on the left are still uncertain…”

    There’s those “Some Democrats” again.

    One day we’ll find out who they are, but today isn’t that day.

  62. 62.

    Jacqueline Squid Onassis

    FTFNYT is just all-in on getting more trans kids to die.  I wish I could say I was surprised.

  65. 65.

    Dan B

    My partner was in D.C. years ago.  The cherries were in full bloom and then a hail storm.  All gone…

  68. 68.

    Salty Sam

    @Dan B: My partner was in D.C. years ago.  The cherries were in full bloom and then a hail storm.  All gone…

     I married my first wife in the Zilker Rose Garden in Austin, in April-  we had the rehearsal on a Saturday morning, and everyone involved was exclaiming how beautifully the roses were blooming.  We had not been informed that the Men’s Garden Club (responsible for the Rose Garden maintenance) would be pruning all those beautiful blooms that afternoon.

    We showed up Sunday to be married in “The Stub Garden”.

  70. 70.

    Steeplejack

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    When you do your hilarious endless HAHAHA thing it breaks the margin on the post and makes editing a comment hard on some devices. Shorten it up, please; 20 or so characters is plenty. We get it that you’re laughing!

  72. 72.

    evodevo

    @Dan B: Yep…in KY Walmart makes bucks on selling tomato and pepper plants the last couple weeks in April…invariably blackberry winter freezes them the 12th of May, and then everyone has to replant LOL – never plant anything here in the northern half of the state till after then.  And one year it frosted the 4th week in May and killed all the newly transplanted tobacco plants…

  74. 74.

    karen marie

    @Gin & Tonic: It’s a 39-hour drive from Kyiv to Tyumen.

    From wikipedia:

    Tyumen is an important service center for the gas and oil industries in Russia. Due to its advantageous location at the crossing of the motor, rail, water and air ways and its moderate climate Tyumen was an ideal base town for servicing the oil and gas industry of the West Siberia. As a result, today Tyumen is a center of industry, science, culture, education and medicine. Many large oil and gas companies such as Gazprom, LUKoil, Gazpromneft and Shell have their representative offices in Tyumen.

    There are numerous factories, engineering companies, oil industry service companies (KCA DEUTAG and Schlumberger), design institutes, shipyard and other oil servicing companies located in Tyumen. Schwank, market leader for industrial heaters, has its subsidiary, SibSchwank, in Tyumen, holding market shares of about 25%.[29] UTair is also based in Tyumen.

     

    I’d guess it’s just your common industrial accident.

  76. 76.

    prostratedragon

    @Danielx:  Ooo, yeah, must remember to check the apple blossoms down the street to see if they’re making it. All over town Friday trees wereblooming, daffodils and some other earlier flower were out.

  77. 77.

    karen marie

    @terraformer:   How about they simply quote Rufo’s statement after his success with “critical race theory” that he was pulling this shit out of his ass to help Republicans?

    I mean, he directly and specifically boasted that it was all bullshit.  Why is anyone pretending any of this nonsense is legitimate?

  78. 78.

    Mike in NC

    I did like seeing those NYT pages showing a photo of Trump above an article about “mobster’s son gets life sentence”. Fitting!

  79. 79.

    James E Powell

    @Gin & Tonic:

    One of my favorite lines from The Maltese Falcon

    The Fat Man “Wilmer went about the boat, trying to find the Falcon. No doubt, he was careless with matches.”

  80. 80.

    James E Powell

    @C Stars:

    There’s got a be a word for this kind of reporting–just absolutely calculating and deceitful.

    Over the years, for reasons I never understood myself, I ended up dating three different women in the TV news business. All three described this kind of reporting as pretty standard operating procedure. That is, the people they talk to & whose faces & voices are part of “the story” are filling in blanks that were left open for them by whoever it is that wants the story. Usually the news director.

  84. 84.

    RaflW

    @Baud: I served a short stint on the board of the U.T. Austin GLSA (Gay and Lesbian Students Association)… in 1990-91. But yeah, quite soon after that most everyone shifted to include BTQ (and put the L first).

    Not without some ugliness from some “respectability gays”, who probably ran off to be Log Closet Republicans when we Acted Up on ’em.

  85. 85.

    RaflW

    @JPL: I wrote to multiple senators about blue slips in Judiciary, and how stupid and anti-progress they are. As a person with some resources, I was able to write using my local address in three states.

    Amy K got back to me very quickly, complementing me on my enthusiastic grasp of issues (cleverly written, Klobuchar staffer!).

    It’s been months since, and bupkis till yesterday, when I got a marginally coherent form letter from Michael Bennett that says “thanks for contacting my office”, in effect, but has nothing to say about the issue I raised. Harrumph.

    Sen.s Tina Smith and Tammy Baldwin have yet to respond.

  86. 86.

    Jeffro

    @C Stars: “push reporting” is good.

    “biased” also works, but “push reporting” is better…you start to see what they’re trying to get you think/feel that much quicker.

  87. 87.

    Jeffro

    The GOP operatives looking for something, ANYTHING to rile up their base…I almost get that.  Not an excuse but a reason.

    The fucking press (NYT most especially)?  That’s not. their. job.  It’s not on them to try and keep the horse race going, it’s not like lives aren’t at stake, it’s not like there aren’t a million other ways to look at what the GOP is doing.

    “Shrinking, flailing movement scrambles to adjust after fellow citizens declared normal.”

    “Feeling deflated, GOP tires and nearly retires.”

    “What was all that anti-gay shit ABOUT, anyway?”

    “Here’s who profits every time the GOP whips up anti-(out-group) hysteria…”

  88. 88.

    TriassicSands

    @twbrandt:

    If the Times were nothing but political coverage, it would be almost entirely disposable at this point. It does, at times come up with some very worthwhile  political coverage, but its inability to acknowledge — in its reporting — that the Republican Party is not a responsible governing partner trying to improve life for most Americans represents a catastrophic journalistic failure.

    There is much in the Times that is worthwhile, but only rarely now does that appear in political coverage. The Editorial Board is laughable, as is the Post’s Editorial Board. Nowhere does privilege reek quite so strongly as in the pronouncements from the EBs of those two papers. Of course, I’m not reading any right wing garbage these days (except a rare Op-Ed column that never seem to offer anything truly worthwhile), so perhaps there are EBs out there that make the Times and Post folks look like pikers.

  90. 90.

    SuzieC

    @twbrandt: You can subscribe to the cooking section for $5.00 a month.  However, the WaPo cooking section is better and the subscription to the FTFNYT allows them to send you begging emails every single day.

  91. 91.

    James E Powell

    The NYT created the entire bullshit Whitewater “scandal” that was a drag on the Clinton administration & led to his impeachment.

    The NYT led the War on Gore that put Bush in the White House and Roberts & Alito on the supreme court.

    The NYT’s 20 year smear campaign against Hillary Clinton put Trump in the White House and Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett on the supreme court.

    Those recipes must be really fucking awesome.

  93. 93.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @C Stars:

    I guess, but it’s only a matter of time until they come out with another similarly trollish article by an anti-trans person, espousing the views of anti-trans doctors. It’s freaking infuriating.

    The FTFNYT editors are trying to will the anti-trans moral panic into being taken up by normies.

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