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Thursday Evening Open Thread: Breaking…

by Anne Laurie|  April 20, 20235:46 pm| 71 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Space, Tech News & Issues, Schadenfreude

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SpaceX's Starship, the most powerful rocket ever built, briefly takes flight then explodes in midair on first launch attempt https://t.co/7fPWwnLKE0 pic.twitter.com/2yZpePHMJJ

— CNN (@CNN) April 20, 2023

Still a few bugs in the system!

[TWITTER HQ, INT.]

Ha ha ha, they must all be tearing their hair out over the loss of their precious blue checks! The subscriptions will come pouring in any minute now!

Any…

Minute…

Now…

You guuuuuuuys.

— @[email protected] (@normative) April 20, 2023

Also breaking: Apartheid Princeling’s tiny heart.

even though that's probably part of what got us here

— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachi) April 20, 2023

Yes, I’m sad for the science guys, but not a big enough person to resist the easy target.

NO RESPECT!

NO WAY ELON ADDED ME TO HIS CIRCLE pic.twitter.com/VgIhMqws0Z

— albert (@albert12798) April 20, 2023

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  1. 1.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 5:49 pm

    I do believe Pillow Guy might have just won the award for most expensive mouth-shoot-off ever:

    The MyPillow founder claimed he had data showing Chinese interference and said he’d pay $5 million to anyone who could prove the material was not from the 2020 election. A computer scientist is entitled to the prize, arbitrators ruled.

  2. 2.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 5:49 pm

    Somebody really needs to ask Musk to his face, “Dude, why do you have to be such an asshole?”

  3. 3.

    Eunicecycle

    April 20, 2023 at 5:52 pm

    @different-church-lady: and he was a Trump voter! Apparently he started out wanting to prove voter fraud with the data, but found the opposite.

  4. 4.

    Ruckus

    April 20, 2023 at 5:52 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    Well at least we know for sure, money can buy stupid. In Mike’s  case I’m thinking he bought an entire train’s worth of stupid. Most settle for a lunch bag amount of stupid, but Mike is special.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    April 20, 2023 at 5:53 pm

    @Eunicecycle:

    Oh wow.  It reminds me of those flat earth people who design real experiments and end up proving the earth is round.

  6. 6.

    piratedan

    April 20, 2023 at 5:54 pm

    as seen elsewhere on the Web….

     

    “Thank God the missle exploded when it did, else the autodrive could have kicked in and directed the rocket to the closest orphanage…..”

  7. 7.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 5:56 pm

    I think we’re seeing signs that the “Get away with anything as long as you’re a Republican” era is starting to wind down:

    GOP leader, who voted to expel Tennessee Three, found guilty of sexually harassing interns.

  8. 8.

    schrodingers_cat

    April 20, 2023 at 5:58 pm

    @Baud: If India’s justice system worked as well as ours does RSS would be paying until eternity for their non-stop lying

    Also to0 bhakts has a sad because 40% of American adults have no idea who Modi is.

  9. 9.

    Roger Moore

    April 20, 2023 at 5:58 pm

    @different-church-lady: ​
     

    I do believe Pillow Guy might have just won the award for most expensive mouth-shoot-off ever

    It’s nothing compared to the $44 billion dollars Musk wound up paying for shooting off his mouth.

  10. 10.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 5:59 pm

    @Ruckus: I still think it’s a chicken/egg problem: does money turn normal people into assholes, or do assholes have a magnetic effect on money?

  11. 11.

    Baud

    April 20, 2023 at 6:00 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    40% of American adults have no idea who Modi is.

    I’m surprised it’s that high.  We aren’t great when it comes to foreign affairs knowledge.

  12. 12.

    Baud

    April 20, 2023 at 6:04 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    I think assholes have an advantage because it is easier for them take the actions necessary to succeed, whereas others may hesitate out of guilt or insecurity.

    I also think that people who achieve high status end up getting obsessed about the threats to their status, and that turns them into assholes.

  13. 13.

    BruceJ

    April 20, 2023 at 6:04 pm

    My favoritr part of the SpaceX rocket blowing up, is that they’re calling it a ‘sudden unscheduled disassembly event’

  14. 14.

    prostratedragon

    April 20, 2023 at 6:06 pm

    U.S. Capitol Breach Defendant Charged in Texas After Firing Handgun Towards Law Enforcement
    Attempted suicide by cop? White man can’t get a break these days.

  15. 15.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:07 pm

    @BruceJ: I believe the technical term is an “oopsie.”

  16. 16.

    Baud

    April 20, 2023 at 6:07 pm

    @Baud:

    High = low.

    Got turned around in the numbers.

  17. 17.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 20, 2023 at 6:08 pm

    @different-church-lady: they get away with it, until they don’t

    As lawmakers filed into the House chamber after a lunch break on Thursday, the desk of former Rep. Scotty Campbell sat empty, the characteristic lawmaker name plate missing from its front.
    Campbell, R-Mountain City, resigned from the General Assembly in a sudden move Thursday, less than two hours after he told The Tennessean he had no plans to step down from a Republican caucus leadership position over a harassment policy violation.

    what are the odds somebody reminded him evidence of something worse in that two hours

    I’m guessing there are whole lot of state legislatures and legislators who would not be comfortable the kind of national spotlight TN GOP drew upon itself

  18. 18.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:09 pm

    @prostratedragon: ​
      Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute… you’re saying there’s illegal ways of using a firearm in Texas?!?

  19. 19.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:10 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I’m guessing there are whole lot of state legislatures and legislators who would not be comfortable the kind of national spotlight TN GOP drew upon itself

    Oh I dunno, there seem to be more every day.

  20. 20.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:10 pm

    Have any innocent lost kids been shot today?

  21. 21.

    hueyplong

    April 20, 2023 at 6:12 pm

    The chef’s kiss part of the MyPillow award is that Lindell’s dare/offer included a binding arbitration clause and, unlike corporate defendants against individuals in 99% of cases, he actually lost the arbitration.

    Mikey is about to find out how often appeals of binding arbitration work out.

    Schadenfreudelicious.

  22. 22.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:14 pm

    @Eunicecycle: Oh I love it! The guy must have been like, “5 million dollars or support Trump?… 5 million dollars or support Trump?… fuck it, 5 million dollars!!!“

  23. 23.

    Roger Moore

    April 20, 2023 at 6:15 pm

    @different-church-lady: ​
     
    I think the biggest thing is that rich people can show off their inner asshole in a way the rest of us can’t. Most really bad assholishness is directed at people’s social inferiors. For most people, the pool of clear social inferiors isn’t that big, which limits the scope of how big an asshole they can be. For rich people, the pool of clear social inferiors is much larger, so they have many more opportunities.

  24. 24.

    Burnspbesq

    April 20, 2023 at 6:16 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    what are the odds somebody reminded him evidence of something worse in that two hours

    Or he talked to a lawyer and found out the full depth of the shit he’s in.

  25. 25.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:17 pm

    @Roger Moore: Makes a lot of sense.

  26. 26.

    Roger Moore

    April 20, 2023 at 6:18 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    It sounds like he was just someone with enough intellectual honesty to accept what the data showed him.  They exist, even among Republicans.

  27. 27.

    narya

    April 20, 2023 at 6:19 pm

    @different-church-lady: @Baud: And I think a lot of people just don’t care that much about money. The ones who do are also the ones who are insecure about whatever status they do achieve and/or think they are owed deference [waving to Clarence Thomas]. There’s probably a third category, too–the folks born into substantial wealth who have no interest in, or ability to understand, “regular” people; that’ll get you partway to “asshole” all on its own.

  28. 28.

    Shalimar

    April 20, 2023 at 6:23 pm

    Here’s a shock for everyone.  Musk scheduled the Twitter revocation of blue checkmarks for 4/20, and it has been total chaos so far.  No one can sense any pattern to the implementation.

  29. 29.

    prostratedragon

    April 20, 2023 at 6:23 pm

    @different-church-lady:  And police can manage to get even an armed person without a hail of bullets. (Fortunately, the fool did let his minor child walk out of the house and away from him.)

  30. 30.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:24 pm

    @Shalimar: They just don’t make chaos Muppets the way they used to.

  31. 31.

    Tony Jay

    April 20, 2023 at 6:24 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    It sounds like he was just someone with enough intellectual honesty to accept what the data showed him.

    How much would it cost to pay, say, ten percent of Republican voters $5 million each to do the same thing?

    Cheaper than the usual campaign spend? Might be worth it.

  32. 32.

    Roger Moore

    April 20, 2023 at 6:28 pm

    @Tony Jay:

    How much would it cost to pay, say, ten percent of Republican voters $5 million each to do the same thing?

    Let’s see.  Trump received about 74 million votes in 2020, so 10% of that is 7.4 million.  7.4 million voters times $5 million/voter = $37 trillion.  That doesn’t seem like a good use of money.

  33. 33.

    RaflW

    April 20, 2023 at 6:29 pm

    @Ruckus: People do recover, but I wonder if he permanently fried a bunch of circuits.

    “Lindell abused heavy drugs much of his life, starting with cocaine in 1982. He switched to crack cocaine in the late 1990s.

    By spring 2008, his drug use had gotten so bad that his three crack dealers got together and did something that defies logic: they attempted an intervention.”

  34. 34.

    Gin & Tonic

    April 20, 2023 at 6:33 pm

    @Roger Moore: What Lindell *said* about the data was that it represented packet captures (called pcaps if you deal with them.) If you’ve spent time analyzing them for a living, it takes a few seconds to determine if something is a pcap or not. It wasn’t. Doesn’t matter what else he said about voter data or Chinese interference or anything else – he said it was a particular type of data, and it wasn’t.

  35. 35.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 20, 2023 at 6:34 pm

    I understand the desire to stick pins in the apartheid princlings very thin skin, I want to at every opportunity, but still feel the need to point out that space is hard.

    That is all.

  36. 36.

    trollhattan

    April 20, 2023 at 6:34 pm

    Ain’t that America.

    Police in North Carolina are searching for a man accused of shooting a six-year-old girl and her father after their basketball rolled into the suspect’s yard.

    Two other victims, a woman and a man, were also injured.

    Police said the suspect, 24-year-old Robert Louis Singletary, remains at large. Mr Singletary faces four counts of first-degree attempted murder. Police have also charged the suspect with two counts of assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill and one count of possession of a firearm by a felon.

    The suspect was previously known to police for allegedly assaulting his girlfriend with a sledgehammer in December.

    Police in Gaston County first received a 911 call at 19:44 local time on Tuesday (00:44 BST on Wednesday) about the shooting. Investigators later reported that a six-year-old child and her father were both seriously injured. An adult female was grazed by a bullet and a second adult male was shot, they said.

  37. 37.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:35 pm

    @RaflW: A smart parasite doesn’t kill the host.

  38. 38.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:36 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: Certainly not the first person/organization to have a rocket blow up.

  39. 39.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:37 pm

    @trollhattan: He seems nice.

  40. 40.

    RaflW

    April 20, 2023 at 6:37 pm

    @prostratedragon: In the upsetting cops-hail-of-bullets category, the autopsy of the guy in the protest camp near Atlanta who was probably (IMO) flat out murdered by cops has been released. Manuel Teran received at least 57 gunshot wounds.

    That case has stunk since day one. I don’t expect real justice, but at least some facts are dribbling out.

  41. 41.

    Baud

    April 20, 2023 at 6:38 pm

    MSNBC reporting that Biden will announce next week he’s running for reelection.

  42. 42.

    Tony Jay

    April 20, 2023 at 6:38 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    The math don’t lie. Hmmmm. Maybe outvoting them is the best bet. Cheaper too.

  43. 43.

    Anne Laurie

    April 20, 2023 at 6:38 pm

    @Baud: 40% of American adults have no idea who Modi is.

    I’m surprised it’s that high.  We aren’t great when it comes to foreign affairs knowledge.

    It’s a short name, easy to remember.  Also, Trump talks about him — they did at least one massive mutual grip’n’grin back in the Before Days — so MAGAts who’d normally claim all those brown ferriners look alike have reason to remember him.

    And then, of course, there’s lots of Indian-Americans and people who associate with Indian-Americans!

  44. 44.

    Frankensteinbeck

    April 20, 2023 at 6:39 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    A really smart parasite makes the host feed itself to the next host in the parasite’s life cycle.

    EDIT – …this has no application to the topic.  I just took a college parasitology course and it left me emotionally scarred to this day.

  45. 45.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:41 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: Right, and if Pillow Guy dies he’s not making business references to his fellow pillow guys. It’s just smart pushing.

  46. 46.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:42 pm

    @Tony Jay: ​
    Well, we did that in 2016 and there was a bug in the system…

  47. 47.

    Dangerman

    April 20, 2023 at 6:42 pm

    I was around the for the earliest days of the Internet (before Netscape); put me down for the category of the “money turns people into assholes” and “the bigger the money, the bigger the asshole”. Exhibit A, Elon Musk.

    I should note, for the record, I ended up dirt poor. Each of my startups went “poof”.

  48. 48.

    different-church-lady

    April 20, 2023 at 6:44 pm

    @Dangerman: Musk is a white South African, so I gotta think he was well on the way to asshole long before he had any money of his own.

  49. 49.

    TheOtherHank

    April 20, 2023 at 6:46 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

     the need to point out that space is hard.

    I did some googling of the 37 test launches of the Redstone rocket (the one that boosted Alan Shepard into almost-space), 27 were successful. Or to put it another more than 25% failed.

    For Mercury rockets, 11 successes, 4 failures

    So lets all point and laugh at Elon, but rockets blowing up during testing is not that rare.

  50. 50.

    prostratedragon

    April 20, 2023 at 6:50 pm

    trollhattan@36: “Allegedly” is digging the Erie Canal regarding that December incident. Why was he out?

  51. 51.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 20, 2023 at 6:54 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    I am reminded of “The Right Stuff”: “All our rockets blow up.”

  52. 52.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 20, 2023 at 6:56 pm

    @TheOtherHank: ​ Exactly. And I love to point and laugh at Elon.

  53. 53.

    prostratedragon

    April 20, 2023 at 6:56 pm

    different-church-lady@45: Not only that, but there can be legal consequences. Michael K. Williams’s dealer was recently charged in his death, for instance. If Williams hadn’t died, the dealer might have stayed under the radar.

  54. 54.

    Uncle Cosmo

    April 20, 2023 at 7:09 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    It is a very sobering feeling to be up in space and realize that one’s safety factor was determined by the lowest bidder on a government contract.

    Alan Shepard. Who, IIRC, while awaiting liftoff for the USA’s first manned (suborbital) flight, sat in his Mercury capsule on top of that Redstone for so long he had to take a leak in his spacesuit. (Aaah, piss on it! he was reported by no one to have muttered…)

  55. 55.

    Bill Arnold

    April 20, 2023 at 7:13 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    you’re saying there’s illegal ways of using a firearm in Texas?!?

    Not one, maybe, but if six or more are sex toys, yes:
    Texas has more laws surrounding sex toys than assault rifles – In the southern state, it is illegal to own more than six “obscene devices” (Cathal Ryan, 28 MAY 2022

  56. 56.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 20, 2023 at 7:18 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: Heh, I remember that. Thanx for the chuckle.

  57. 57.

    Bill Arnold

    April 20, 2023 at 7:24 pm

    @Bill Arnold:
    If anyone is interested, people who play their gun collection in Texas a bit too … suggestively … might be in trouble with black letter law. Would need to find a willing Texas prosecutor, though.
    https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/PE/htm/PE.43.htm

  58. 58.

    Maxim

    April 20, 2023 at 7:28 pm

    Speaking of spreading hate:

    https://crooksandliars.com/2023/04/teacher-shows-students-pro-confederacy

    In Florida, because of course it was.

  59. 59.

    Jackie

    April 20, 2023 at 7:34 pm

    @different-church-lady: True justice will be his seat is won by a Democrat in the special election!🤞🏻🤞🏻

    Not mentioned here, but I read he resigned his seat today.

    Here’s a link:

    https://www.wsmv.com/2023/04/20/tenn-gop-lawmaker-violated-workplace-discrimination-harassment-policy-subcommittee-says/

  60. 60.

    Citizen Alan

    April 20, 2023 at 7:35 pm

    @Baud: Honestly, I imagine a large percentage of the 60% who “know who Modi is” think he’s a techno-pop star from the early 1990s.

  61. 61.

    Roger Moore

    April 20, 2023 at 7:37 pm

    @prostratedragon:

    Why was he out?

    People are supposed to be considered innocent until proven guilty, and keeping them locked up while waiting for trial should be an exceptional measure.  It sucks that sometimes people  commit another crime while they’re waiting for trial, but they have a constitutional right to bail.

  62. 62.

    Salty Sam

    April 20, 2023 at 7:46 pm

    @Baud:    I also think that people who achieve high status end up getting obsessed about the threats to their status, and that turns them into assholes.

    Nailed it!

  63. 63.

    prostratedragon

    April 20, 2023 at 7:47 pm

    @Roger Moore:  Thanks for the civics lesson.

  64. 64.

    WaterGirl

    April 20, 2023 at 8:05 pm

    @prostratedragon: Snark or sincere?  Impossible to tell in writing. :-)

  65. 65.

    RaflW

    April 20, 2023 at 8:17 pm

    @Jackie: Scotty ran unopposed in the last election, and in ’20. The R before him ran unopposed as well. Have to go back to 2016 for a Republican to face an opponent, who was an independent and lost 86%-14%.

    Maybe it was Run for Something that I saw saying that TN, in addition to outrageous gerrymanders, has an unusually high rate of unopposed elections.

    Running a D for those seats likely sucks, is a slog, and I dunno how effective it is. But. Dems give literal 10s of millions for challenges against ppl like Susan “awful waffle” Collins.

    We’ve gotta reallocate investments.

  66. 66.

    El Muneco

    April 20, 2023 at 8:36 pm

    @trollhattan: Singletary got multiple first-degree murder charges immediately. None of the three shootings earlier this week got higher than second-degree, and that was like pulling teeth.

    Anyone want to guess Singletary’s race compared to the three aging “stand your ground” cases?

  67. 67.

    Jackie

    April 20, 2023 at 8:49 pm

    @RaflW: I’m *hoping* Democrats are fired up after the mass shooting in Nashville, removing 2 of the 3 TN3 from office for peacefully protesting against gun violence, learning their State Speaker is corrupt, and this latest Republican scandal -and start challenging those unopposed seats and actually win some of them.

  68. 68.

    brantl

    April 20, 2023 at 8:52 pm

    @Roger Moore: Where?

  69. 69.

    brantl

    April 20, 2023 at 9:07 pm

    @TheOtherHank: Yeah, but an awful lot of the hard struff has already been done. That he can’t follow in the footsteps of a successful space program just shows that he can’t learn from other people’s knowledge.

  70. 70.

    catclub

    April 20, 2023 at 10:27 pm

    @different-church-lady: ​
     

    Certainly not the first person/organization to have a rocket blow up.

    This. Rockets are hard to get everything right on.

  71. 71.

    bjacques

    April 21, 2023 at 1:29 am

    🎼 Tears On MyPillow…🎶

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