I flew to space four times over the course of a decade and I’ve seen the effects of climate change on our planet first hand.
There is no planet B. This remarkable and fragile place is our only home and it’s our job to protect it for generations to come. #EarthDay pic.twitter.com/GTe0mpSuyX
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— President Biden (@POTUS) April 23, 2023
From a thread:
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Baud
Red states are treating women as livestock and I’m seeing ads on my TV for a cure for curved dick syndrome. Things are nuts, man.
Baud
Biden is supposed to announce his reelection bid this week. Media says the voters are not enthused. Maybe true, maybe not. Doesn’t change anything for me.
Cameron
@Baud: So Our Liberal Media are saying they aren’t enthused.
vigilhorn
Has anybody done a poll on how well the media are doing their job?
NotMax
@Baud
Hmpf. Figured those only run during Scared Straight.
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@Baud
That would be the same media blaring about the inevitable, unstoppable red wave, yes?
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Dorothy A. Winsor
I like Joe Biden. I think he’s doing a good job. Do I wish he were younger? Sure.
So, does that translate as enthusiasm or lack thereof?
Ocotillo
Presidents come, presidents go but Andrea Mitchell never leaves………….sigh
Barbara
@Baud: Because they’ve contacted all of them and asked? The lack of self-awareness continues to amaze.
NotMax
@Barbara
“Not enthused” = nary a single boat parade.
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BlueGuitarist
Betty Bowers quoted someone referring to “Moms for Liberty” as “Klanned Karenhood”
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊
Baud
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
rikyrah
I have no problem supporting Joe Biden for re-election.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
OzarkHillbilly
@BlueGuitarist: Ooooooph….
Hangö Kex
A fisherman (among other things) from Finland is picking his Goldman Environmental Prize this Earth Day over there:
(https://www.goldmanprize.org/recipient/tero-mustonen/)
Helsingin Sanomat reports that the $200 000 prize money will come handy to restore another forestry site, a 73 hectare plot in Inari.
O. Felix Culpa
@rikyrah:
Same.
@Hangö Kex:
Kudos to Mr. Mustonen. That’s important work.
Hangö Kex
@rikyrah: Good morning. :)
Suzanne
@Baud: The best-case scenario for a president with most voters is honestly not enthused. It is confident in competence and unaware of day-to-day activities, and focusing one’s attention on other areas of life.
I will say that Joe Biden being the president has been remarkable for my mental health, as I no longer start each day with a doomscroll.
NotMax
@Hangö Kex
History re-peats itself.
;)
The Thin Black Duke
@OzarkHillbilly: I’m crossing my fingers that Biden is healthy enough to run for reelection and win. Then, if he’s unable to finish his term, Harris can take over from there. I’d be fine with that.
Hangö Kex
@NotMax: :) That it does, sometimes.
Baud
@Suzanne:
I never doomed scrolled per se, but I am enjoying this time not having to worry about the government on a daily basis.
Geminid
@Baud: The late night threads here have sure gotten shorter since Trump left office.
Baud
@Geminid:
Honestly, the hair on fire political Internet has been going on since Bush — with very little respite even during the Obama years. It never fit me very well, but these days I believe it has beem affirmatively harmful to our cause.
Hangö Kex
@Geminid: There you are. :) (See the tail of the Ukraine thread from the other night.)
Kay
Our esteemed justices at work again:
Here’s what Justice Roberts left out of his comedy act, from the (state) appeal of the crminal case:
They’re like a panel on Fox News. They could be sitting together on the Fox couch for the morning show.
NotMax
@Geminid
So old can remember when late night threads were primarily casual banter.
OzarkHillbilly
@The Thin Black Duke: I really don’t understand the angst over Biden’s age. I’m more worried about the 47% or so who were OK with trump’s blatant sociopathy.
Nora
@Kay:
Ha, ha, how very funny to think that a woman who’s receiving multiple messages from a man saying he wants her dead would actually be frightened by that! I mean, it’s not as if men ever follow through on those threats, right? Multiple statements that a man is watching you, that he wants you dead, that you will be dead if he has anything to do with it, that’s nothing, right? Oh, those sensitive women, can’t take a joke.
I hate these Justices with the fire of a thousand suns. Clearly none of them has ever been in a position where they didn’t feel the system would protect them from deadly threats.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Kay: That’s horrifying.
If all those messages had gone to one of the justices, how would they react?
lowtechcyclist
@The Thin Black Duke:
Strongly concur.
OzarkHillbilly
@Kay: I wonder how long it would take for me to get a visit from a US Marshall if I started sending them similarly worded letters.
Geminid
@Hangö Kex: Thanks!
Anyway
@Ocotillo:
Term limits! We want term limits …… for journalists!
Talking about advanced age gets jackals mad but srsly someone like Andrea Mitchell should have retired a decade ago.
lowtechcyclist
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
And they get all upset when people peacefully protest on the sidewalk in front of one of their houses
ETA: Makes me wish I was already retired so I could protest in front of the Supreme Court building.
Kay
@Nora:
It’s just so perfect that they segued directly into “cancel culture at universities”
They’re coddled, clueless ninnies. Do they even read the briefs or do they just pull this garbage out of whatever they heard on Fox that week?
I live in a 75% Trump county- blood red- and stalking is taken seriously even here because we’ve had two high profile cases where stalkers eventually attacked their targets. In one of the cases the stalker kept leaving flowers on the targets car. Flowers, flowers, flowers, messages, messages, messages, then he attacked her in the parking lot of her workplace. Justice Roberts would have had a hearty chuckle over that.
The kicker is that we have massively increased the SCOTUS security budget. The clueless ninnies are safe as houses. They have an elaborate multimillion dollar security appartus at Justice Thomas’ demand.
The Thin Black Duke
@OzarkHillbilly: I think old age is a concept that a lot of people in this country are deeply uncomfortable with.
lowtechcyclist
@OzarkHillbilly:
Probably within about 45 minutes after the letter got opened.
sab
@Kay: Well that certainly got my blood pressure up this morning.
The Thin Black Duke
@Kay: It doesn’t help that Hollywood romanticizes creepy guys who don’t believe in safe spaces and won’t hear the word “no”. I never understood why a weirdo standing outside a woman’s house with a boombox over his head was supposed to be the embodiment of True Love.
Omnes Omnibus
@Anyway: Talking about an arbitrary age limit is irritating. Talking about the fact that someone is no longer capable of doing their job is a completely different thing. For example, Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden are different from Diane Feinstein, but all three are old.
Nelle
@OzarkHillbilly: It’s not as if the apparent opponent, TFG, is a young lad.
Kay
@OzarkHillbilly:
Trigger warnings! The woke mind virus! They can’t even stick to the state stalking statute– we have to get excerpts from the Ron DeSantis campaign speech.
This is why it might be helpful to have some people with real world experience on the bench. They could maybe stick to the issue at hand instead of conducting the 5000th boring cancel culture seminar around this poor woman’s life?
Dorothy A. Winsor
The mockery is the cherry on top. Like the Dobbs decision, they offer both insult and injury
Dorothy A. Winsor
@The Thin Black Duke: That was always my objection to the original Twilight book too. It portrayed the creepy stalker guy as romantic.
Layer8Problem
@Geminid: Nature is healing.
Kay
@The Thin Black Duke:
It’s that women are liars, again. Women can’t be trusted to evaluate or report a threat. Why, look at how silly Justice Roberts carefully cherry picked examples are! She’s hysterical! She needs a panel of Right wing assholes to tell her what has happened to her.
In the state case the prosecutor said the stalker escalated because he felt “entitled” to a response from her and she would never respond. That’s how it always goes. That’s every stalker case. They feel entitled to a relationship with the target. Her wishes don’t matter at all.
Kay
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Went to a jury too. He took it to trial and was convicted and he appealed and lost. Fox and Friends carefully left out what the jury heard in order to jeer at this woman because obviously they couldn’t do it if Roberts had included the death threat fact.
Soprano2
@Kay: They have a 1980’s understanding of stalking, and don’t seem to understand how the internet has turned it up to eleven as far as the ability to make someone’s life a living hell. It’s awful that they were laughing about threats made against someone. ETA – and of course they have extreme security, so they won’t ever have to worry about something like that. And thinking that some black students would think a lesson about lynching is a threat…..I can’t roll my eyes hard enough. Seeing as how they were terrified of people in costumes walking in front of their houses, you’d think they’d be more understanding.
Suzanne
@Soprano2:
I’m old enough to remember the murder of Rebecca Schaeffer. In 1989. There’s no excuse.
Soprano2
@Suzanne: Oh, not saying it’s an excuse, it was just a statement of fact. I remember that too, and when the articles about stalking started appearing in Glamour magazine in the 1980’s. Before that it wasn’t even a concept; some people even thought it was romantic for a man to be so obsessed with a woman!
Kay
@Soprano2:
Well, in the go-go 1980s they just stalked freely and killed a lot of their targets – ha ha
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: When media says “voters” they mean white voters who vote Republican or are BS bros. It may or may not be a coincidence that this represents their cohort and their extended circle
I am glad that Biden is running again. He has exceeded my expectations as a President. But then again I am not a “voter” that our MSM finds representative.
Soprano2
@Kay: It’s also the idea that it’s just words, and words can’t hurt you. Even though almost every violent incident is preceded by words, most of the time by threatening words! I guess they’ll just ignore that he was convicted by a jury, and that he threatened her with death multiple times, and rule that she’s “just too sensitive” and should actually be happy that a man is interested in her! ETA – of course the most sensitive people out there are MAGA Republicans, who can’t seem to stand hearing even one thing they don’t agree with.
Kay
@Suzanne:
The goal is to make it more difficult for women to have careers or a public life. She shouldn’t have stuck her head up by being a performing musician. If she was home none of this would have happened.
jonas
@The Thin Black Duke: Obligatory Onion link
Soprano2
@Kay: Yep, that’s exactly what I mean, it wasn’t taken seriously then and was actually seen by some as just a sign of “affection”. I remember being horrified when I first read about the concept of stalking – how awful it would be to not be able to get away from someone you didn’t want to interact with. I also remember how long it took to get law enforcement to take it seriously.
Kay
@Soprano2:
It’s his second offense! He did the same to his ex wife and her family. That’s why he was on probation.
Second offense. Reported. I’d bet 500 dollars there are more that went unreported. And can you blame them for not reporting? Imagine this woman reading this account of the justices laughing at her?
zhena gogolia
@Suzanne: Yeah.
zhena gogolia
@The Thin Black Duke: Blame Emily Brontë.
Kay
I think part of what hurts Biden is that he looks old. Sad but true. Idon’t know that there’s much he can do about it though- he ceratinly works hard and seems to have the energy of a much younger person.
I saw the NYTimes is beating the drum that he needs to do more interviews. I probably would have agreed prior to 2016 but they operated in SUCH bad faith with Clinton, where she addressed both Benghazi and the emails over and over and over again and they ignored what she said and instead reported the “questions” about her candidacy for 20 months that I would advise Biden to tell them to fuck off. Giving them interviews isn’t going to change whatever narrative they have come up with at all.
Ksmiami
@rikyrah: when the talking heads say voters aren’t enthused, they are probably just talking about their corporate owners… see, it’s easy to translate punditese.
delphinium
@Kay:
I was stalked once at work-went to my boss(male) about it. He said that I must be misunderstanding the guy’s intent because he was married and so of course, wouldn’t be coming after me.
Omnes Omnibus
@zhena gogolia: That is a sentence one seldom reads.
schrodingers_cat
@Kay: He looks far better than his Republican competition.
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat: Yes, nobody ever seems to mention that. Let’s see TFG without his hair color and makeup. Biden just isn’t vain enough to do that.
Kay
@delphinium:
Ooof. Good to know none of these people are even vaguely aware of the causes of workplace violence.
Dope put himself at risk. In both of our local cases the stalker finally acted out at the target’s workplace. They know they can find the target there and they know when they can find her there.
delphinium
@The Thin Black Duke:
Yeah, I don’t watch of lot of Rom-Coms because so many of them are not romantic nor funny and seem to promote the “if you just keep pursuing that person, they will eventually give in and date you” scenario.
zhena gogolia
@Omnes Omnibus: Really it should be “Blame William Wyler’s version of Emily Brontë.”
schrodingers_cat
@zhena gogolia: The press doesn’t mention that because they are batting for team R. Why people who are ostensibly on our side don’t mention it or belittle him for his age (I am looking at you Stephen Colbert) I have no idea.
I mean their hero looks quite decrepit and disheveled if you ask me.
Kay
@schrodingers_cat:
He does – I think he’s a great President and to me he seems to have loads of energy – I don’t think I could keep his schedule and I’m 20 years younger – but I think the appearance of age matters more than the number. He’s tall and thin and those men seem to age into looking more frail than heavier people like Trump. Biden would look younger with 20 more pounds.
suzanne
@Kay:
Oh, I fully know.
I lurk on a few right-wing blogs from time to time, and the comments sections manage to revert on almost every post (no matter the topic) to trying to figure out how to coerce women into tradwifery. How to get women out of workplaces, universities, any place of leadership/prominence….. and back into the home. Pushing young marriage and parenthood. Complaints about “feminization” of public life are incessant. Sometimes they frame this as “helping women achieve what they really want”.
The cohort of men who are absolutely enraged at women having a role in public life is gigantic.
mrmoshpotato
@Ocotillo: LOL!
The Thin Black Duke
@zhena gogolia: Yeah. An asshole elevated to the status of a romantic role model.
Kay
@suzanne:
You’re the person who brought it to my attention and now I can’t unsee the role it plays in all these issues.
geg6
@Anyway:
Besides, it’s not her age that’s the issue. She should have been let go the minute she showed her lack of any discernment or judgment by marrying Alan Greenspan.
delphinium
@Kay:
Yeah, Biden is amazing and has lots of energy and is in much better shape than Trump (and probably most other Rep presidential wannabes too) and am looking forward to voting for him again. But he does look old-I have a cousin with the same type of build as Biden and he looks about 10 years older than his siblings.
Soprano2
@Kay: I agree, my husband lost quite a bit of weight and it scared me. He got down to 139 pounds; I told him he needed to gain some weight. Since I’ve been helping him with his insulin he’s getting better and has gained some back, but being that thin made him look older. It does age people more when they’re thin.
Quiltingfool
I had to deal with a potential stalker situation; not me, but my student teacher was being ardently pursued by a young PE teacher. She finally talked to me about it — how she told the guy she was engaged, etc. She wasn’t hostile, she was being “nice” and letting him down gently. She told me she was apprehensive about going to the workroom to make copies as he always seemed to be there.
I was livid. I told her I would take care of it. I immediately went to the principal, and asked that the young man’s mentor be present. I explained the situation, and the mentor said he had encouraged the young man to “not take no for an answer”. Well. I told the mentor he’d better get his mentee(?) straightened out; and if he didn’t, then I was going to talk to him, and I assured both men that nobody wanted that to happen. I also indicated I would be speaking to the superintendent if the issue wasn’t resolved.
Situation was resolved. You can’t back down to the redneck fellas in my world, nice doesn’t cut it.
mrmoshpotato
@Suzanne:
Or dreading looking at the news each day.
schrodingers_cat
@Kay: Biden looks fitter and younger than his fat out of shape competition. Unless you are claiming that being an ambulatory lard bucket makes you look younger.
Soprano2
@suzanne: They don’t like the competition, plus they know deep down that there are a lot of women who are smarter and more competent than they are, and they hate it. I think that’s one reason why the number of men going to college is dropping; they don’t like having to compete with women when the playing field is level.
This weekend I saw a post by a woman I know who I respect a lot that said the following:
I haven’t replied to it yet, because I still haven’t overcome the puke reaction I got when I read it especially knowing who posted it! How do you fight against this when even dynamic career women sometimes believe bullshit like this? The rationalizations of the word “submissive” I saw on that thread are something else, too.
Soprano2
@schrodingers_cat: No, it’s more that when you’re old having more flesh on your face and limbs makes you look younger. Biden definitely looks a lot healthier than TFG, though!
schrodingers_cat
@Soprano2: Yep that’s my point. I am comparing him to his competition not a hypothetical 80 year old
Besides it doesn’t matter to me. I wouldn’t vote for a Republican if he looked like George Clooney in his early ER days.
Betty
@Soprano2: Don’t forget how scary that chalk on Susie’s sidewalk was.
Betty
@Kay: Yes, they started that bit about needing more direct access from the day he took office.
Kay
@schrodingers_cat:
No, I just think tall and thin people – like Biden- look younger with a little extra around the face.
It doesn’t matter. They will do “questions” around Biden’s age for the next year just like they did “questions” around the emails for Clinton. The NYTimes reporter assigned to cover Biden is probably already negotiating his or her book deal and as you know they all follow the Times like lemmings. It has nothing to do with us. It’s about the news business, and individual careers in the news business.
Kay
@Betty:
If they overturn the target better change her name and move to yet another state. This guy is a repeat offender – his time incarcerated for the last offense against his ex wife and family taught him nothing. If the SCOTUS gives him the seal of approval for stalking he is going to find her and kill her. She put him in jail and if they overturn she put him in jail “unjustly” from his perspective.
Maybe they could take some of the tens of millions of dollars we paid for their increased security this year and give her 10 grand so she can run and hide. Again.
Soprano2
@schrodingers_cat: True that!
Soprano2
@Kay: It’s shocking to me that the ACLU is on his side in the case! Do they honestly think death threats should come under the imprimatur of “free speech”?
artem1s
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
It translates to a normal person’s level of support – something the horse race media is bored with. Unless you are willing to arm yourself to the teeth and storm the capitol to keep your favorite candidate in office you are, by the MSM’s definition, not enthusiastic enough.
Jeebus wept and FSM help us.
dww44
@Cameron: not just the liberal media; also plenty of liberal voters who believe he’s simply too old. From people who are his age.
Baud
@dww44:
There’s always something wrong with everyone.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Not me. I am just fine.
Kay
@Soprano2:
I think free speech absolutism can be really performative, honestly. They just love to see themselves in the role of defending Speech and Debate and it’s bullet proof, right? No one wants to see themselves as a censor.
The ACLU also has to compete with the Right wing FIRE now too so they’ll try to outdo each other on sanctimonious chest pounding on speech cases. The justices veering off into safe spaces and trigger warnings and such isn’t an accident. They LOVE the “cancel culture” frame. Nothing these assholes like better than OPINING on unruly law students at Stanford or Yale. They cannot get enough of it. They managed to turn this poor woman’s stalking case into another boring, scolding lecture on “trigger warnings”. I always imagine “a normal person” watching or listening or reading an opinion in my cases. Imagine this woman listening to these fucking coddled, clueless pundits disguised as judges.
sab
@Soprano2: I may be way out of date here, but in my limited experience the ACLU isn’t all that organized. Not at all like the NAACP that strategizes long term. ACLU takes cases depending on whatever some local crew of volunteer lawyers decide is important.
gvg
@Soprano2: I would think black student would think the suppression of lessons about the horrors of lynching is the threat.
Those justices aren’t clueless. They are maliciously on the side of the stalkers and klan. They are deliberately trying to keep it legal for their allies to use those kinds of threats against people they don’t like such as uppity women and blacks. There are reasons they give the examples they do, because that is where their minds are. IMO based on where all these so called clueless decisions have lead, they intend most of it.
Those who voted for Citizens United are on the take now if they weren’t then for instance.
Everyone can make a few mistakes, overlook a few consequences, but if they keep making the same kind of judicial decision after results are showing then they intended it. Look at them closely. I bet Roberts is just as dirty as Thomas.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
Your perfection is your fatal flaw.
suzanne
@Soprano2: The women’s liberation movement has changed everything for a cohort of men. One of the most interesting changes has been the rise of assortative mating via educational attainment. In previous generations, the “assorting factors” were race, religion, location, economic class, etc. But the younger cohort is increasingly marrying people with a similar level of education — if they are marrying at all. Marriage rates are falling among the “lesser educated”. And men are being outnumbered on college campuses, so it is increasingly likely that college-educated men will marry and form families, but it is proving to be less likely for those who do not go to college. There doesn’t seem to be any reversal of this trend.
So there is this large and growing cohort of men who not only aren’t making a whole lot of money, but they’re also not able to partner up. And if they do, they have a much higher rate of divorce/breakup. So there is a lot of unhappiness and some of that is being channeled via MAGA.
So the impulse is to get women back under the thumb of men. Education for women allows women to make their own money and not marry out of desperation. Women having high-paying, professional-class jobs means that they can choose to wait for a partner who is their equal.
I also want to note that this crosses racial lines, too. They want to drive white women back into the home, too.
dww44
@dww44: I’m sorely disappointed that’s he’s put his party in this position. He should be passing the baton to a younger leader and should have enabled that at the outset of his administration.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: It can’t be helped. We all go to hell our own way.
Jeffro
110%
It would probably be good for him to do just that – publicly point out what they did to Clinton and literally tell the media to fuck off. Like, with those words.
It would certainly be an eye-opener for all the low-info voters and MAGA zombies, to hear that Dems have serious problems with our national snooze media.
I know my RWNJ relatives are stunned every time I mention how badly biased the NYT’s political coverage is, for example. Their little heads can barely handle the cognitive dissonance. “What? But EVERYBODY KNOWS the media is in the tank for the Democrats?!?!!” Yeah RIGHT >(
Omnes Omnibus
@dww44: I sincerely hope this is snark.
Betty Cracker
@dww44: We had the debate about whether Biden is too old to be president in 2020, and Biden settled it by winning the primary. I agree lots of normie voters, including many Dems, think Biden is too old to serve a second term. But do you think “passing the baton” now would put us in a stronger position to win in 2024? I don’t.
Kay
@Soprano2:
I say it’s “performative” because if Justice Roberts and Thomas and Barrett believed this- that threats to your life are protected speech- they would live that belief. They would take the risk they’re foisting on others in their own lives because that would be worth it. It’s the First Amendment after all and they’re all strutting around proclaiming they are absolutists. Live the dream, Justice Roberts.
But they don’t. They scream bloody murder and demand multi million dollar security when something similiar happens to them.
japa21
Notice that the concern is that black students would consider it a threat. The whole opposite of what the attempt to stop the teaching of such things is about. Teaching black history would hurt the feelings of white students, not be perceived as a threat by black students.
ACB is definitely no RGB.
Nelle
Totally off topic: someone decided to key my husband’s car. Very low on driver’s side door. Small. Very deliberate. Most of a swastika…looks like they got interrupted before finishing.
He thinks it was at the Y. They took pictures and it has been reported to the police.
My daughter’s hair is on fire and she said she doesn’t want to be like the Jews in Germany in the 1930s. She’s moved from Arizona to about a mile from the Canadian border. One of the first questions she got up north? Are you Jewish? I guess she looks the part.
(Our other car is so damaged by a fierce hail storm last week that it will likely be totalled. It is drivable. We had to duct tape the windshield to get to a place it could be replaced. Not a good week in that regard.)
Omnes Omnibus
Why does she think they wouldn’t understand it? I wonder…
dww44
@Betty Cracker: Probably not but I don’t see that not passing it bodes well for our election success either. I think he’s put us and the country in an untenable position I think he knows this.
Paul in KY
@Baud: I’m enthused! Looking forward to him whupping on whatever choad the GQP puts up.
schrodingers_cat
@Nelle: The only place in North America that I have been followed around in a store was in Quebec. I have lived in 4 states and have traveled a lot within the US, especially the eastern US.
That is my Canadian anecdata for you.
Paul in KY
@BlueGuitarist: That’s good! I hope to use that if those craptoids ever come up in a conversation I’m having.
rikyrah
@Kay:
Phucking GHOULS!
sab
@Nelle: Yikes. A friend of my brother’s worked on Howard Metzenbaum’s campaign for Senate back in the 1970s. He won, and the friend went on to work for him for years. The big question in southern Ohio at that point was “Metzenbaum? He isn’t Catholic, is he?” They didn’t think that “it’s okay, he’s Jewish” would be a succcessful response, so they usually just said no.
Princess
@Kay: They hate women.
Imagine how they’d light their hair on fire to protect themselves if they got one single message that was even half as threatening as that
ETA And they despise Black people too. There are few people I feel more sorry for than Amy Coney Handmaiden’s Black children. I’ve seen how that goes.
gwangung
@Kay: Out of fucking touch with modern life.
GIGO rulings.
schrodingers_cat
The unspoken worry behind people obsessing over Biden’s age is their discomfort with a woman, especially a black woman with South Asian and Caribbean immigrant heritage becoming the President in case anything does happen to Biden.
Baud
@dww44:
You’re entitled to your opinion. Different people have different theories as to how we lose. In the end, we can only test one theory in our timeline. It’s Biden’s decision, and I’m going to support whatever he decides.
delphinium
@Kay: Yes, much like how the NRA/GOP will not allow firearms into any of their meetings/conventions. Yet they support/pass laws that allow guns to be carried pretty much everywhere with little thought to public safety.
Kay
@Princess:
I’m kind of shocked they’re publicly jeering at her and making light of it though. Good God. County judges have more sense than that. The sort of Number One Rule for judges is take the case seriously because litigants have a much different view of the justice system than judges and lawyers do. It’s her ONLY court case. It’s important to her.
I think it’s another indication of how out of touch they are. They can no longer see themselves how the public might see them.
About ten years ago the Ohio Supreme Court hired a company to ask people who had been thru the civil justice system what they thought of it. The number one complaint was along the lines of “it’s a club- the judges and lawyers aren’tlistening to us or letting us in to their club”. I took it seriously because I’m a continious improvement kind of gal and I’ll take advice. I want it to be better. The SCOTUS should do something similiar especially now that they have this huge credibility/ethics problem. Get better. Put some effort in.
James E Powell
@Baud:
My worry that it will become like “nobody likes Hillary” – the political press will repeat it so much that the great mass of low information voters will just adopt it as a accepted truth.
Baud
@James E Powell:
Agree. But we face that every election. Sometimes we overcome it and sometimes we don’t.
Princess
@schrodingers_cat: You’re probably right. And it’s why I have no qualms at all about him running in 2024. “Worst” case scenario is Harris takes over and that would be great. I think she stands a better chance of being re-elected after filling Biden’s second term than being elected to a first term as former VP. As long as he knows when he really needs to step aside and will do it, there is only an upside here..
Dorothy A. Winsor
Doug J. is always on target
Jowriter
@Hangö Kex: Late to the thread, but…Most encouraging in these troubled times. He deserves every penny of his prize and more.
Baud
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
Perfect.
trollhattan
Meanwhile, in the land of Pooh, saying a thing and doing a different thing.
The Moar You Know
@schrodingers_cat: Like a Halloween pumpkin that’s been left on the porch through Thanksgiving.
schrodingers_cat
@Princess: Agreed. And Biden has done a great job as President so far and deserves a second term.
Sure Lurkalot
@geg6:
My idiot self read Greenspan’s autobiography which was chock full of his bullshit ideas and arrogance. But the book had a single redeeming quality…his relationship with Andrea Mitchell. His adoration for her came off bigger than that of himself, hard to imagine but there it is.
sdhays
@The Moar You Know: But when we get a glimpse behind the makeup, you can see why he does it. The spray tan makes him look silly, but without it he’s clearly old and unhealthy.
Better a younger looking clown than a blotchy old white man.
Llelldorin
@zhena gogolia: I’d blame the people who decided Wuthering Heights was a romance the moment they realized that it had been written by a woman (previously it had apparently been seen as a Poe-esque study of evil).
schrodingers_cat
@sdhays: Well it kinda worked, more ww voted for him in 2020 than in 2016.
Llelldorin
@Quiltingfool:
He’d advised the guy “not to take no for an answer?????”
Yeah, I’m sure treating a potential romance like selling a time share will work out great for all involved. This is what, “advice to get arrested by?”
(I got married right out of college 30 years ago, so I never really experienced the adult romantic scene. I can’t recall a thread which made me regret it less.)
Jeffro
Which is kind of funny, considering
multiple GOP pols (and literally everyone who ever worked for TFG’s administration) are openly bashing the Mango Menace
trump is acting ever more batshit crazy by the hour, proposing things like loyalty oaths for the federal workforce and claiming that Democrats support abortion up to the moment of birth (and beyond, aka infanticide)
But DO go on, snooze media, about President Biden’s “lukewarm” (and yet somehow extremely widespread) support
rikyrah
@Kay:
SECOND OFFENSE
The Moar You Know
@sdhays: but he doesn’t look younger. His skin looks like a cheap saddle that someone left out in the blasting desert sun for twenty years. It covers the blotches and the black under the eyes and that probably helps but he just reminds me of every Boomer who went tanning a lot in the 1970s.
Juju
@Kay: Something that I don’t like to talk about or even think about is the fact the I had a stalker when I was a senior in high school. That was a long time ago, I think you and I are about the same age, but it changed my life forever. I’m sure Justice Roberts or Gorsuch would probably roll on the floor laughing at the notes my stalker put in my school locker almost daily telling me “I always know what you’re doing.”, or “You should answer the phone instead of your mother, I need to talk to you.” Perhaps the note that simply said “ if I can’t have you no one will.” That note had a cartoon he drew of someone hanging in a noose from a tree. I’m assuming it was supposed to be me, but it wasn’t specifically labeled as me. When I reported it to school officials with the note with the tree drawing, I was told boys will be boys and I shouldn’t be so sensitive about things, but they took the note.
It’s interesting how some things have changed and some things never seem to change at the same time. I would never wish what I’ve been through on anyone, but it surprises me that these justices who have protection and nearly wet themselves when people protested in their neighborhoods, could not empathize even a little bit with CW. Being stalked is terrifying and it’s not free speech. Jeeze.
schrodingers_cat
@The Moar You Know: I agree he doesn’t look better. His appeal completely eludes me.
lowtechcyclist
@Soprano2:
Good Lord! And there will be people who will use this to justify the decision: “even the liberal ACLU…”
Just the other day, I was wondering whether I should contribute to the ACLU. Next time I get a postage-paid reply envelope from them, I’ll tell them why I’m NOT sending the any money.
Llelldorin
@The Moar You Know: He doesn’t look younger, but he doesn’t look like Nosferatu, either.
rikyrah
@suzanne:
They were sold a bill of goods. That they were entitled to whatever woman they want.
But, they aren’t entitled to the 8’s, 9’s, 10’s.
And now, so many women, from 1’s – 10’s are choosing being single and their own peace, over being in a marriage where women have to do all the heavy lifting.
You want to see rage… watch them when a 4, 5, 6 tells them that they’d rather be single. HOW DARE THEY. As a 4,5,6…the stories I could tell you….how dare I decline their invitations…the switch is amazing…I was supposed to be honored by their invitation…that I have my own agency and the right to say no….
sets them OFF!!
Renie
TUCKER CARLSON IS OUT AT FOX NEWS!!!
Kathleen
Probably too late but it seems Tucker Carlson is out at Fox. On phone.
https.//deadline.com/tucker-carlson-out-at-fox-news
Kathleen
@Renie: Great minds and fingers!
The Moar You Know
@Llelldorin: Giuliani has that covered without costume or makeup.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Juju
@Omnes Omnibus: The musical “Oklahoma” is about stalking too. When I finally got around to watch the movie when I was in my 20s, it made my skin crawl.
dww44
@Baud: Yes, and he’s made one that benefits him personally. His unwillingness to be open to stepping aside has effectively closed the field to those waiting in the wings behind him. Has made him, by default, the front runner who, if he wins, will be far older during a second term than any previous President. I remember the hue and cry when Reagan was elected President and assumed office as the oldest elected candidate just before his 70th birthday and who was just shy of his 78th birthday when leaving as a President who obviously had impaired mental faculties. Biden entered the Presidency at age 78 and would be 86 at the end of a second term.
As one just a bit younger than Biden, (and with no overriding health issues), I know that the odds of his making it through a second term without significant health issues are not in his favor. It’s also not a question of energy level, it’s a matter of stamina. It truly does decline with age and sometimes precipitously so. Having a younger VP waiting in the wings should not be the backstop rationale to justify supporting him for his reelection.
Geminid
@lowtechcyclist: I thought the ACLU was also on the wrong side of litigation over the August 12, 2017 Charlottesville rally. The city had moved the rally location to a spacious park a mile away, but ACLU attorneys persuaded a judge to move it back to a tiny park in the crowded downtown area.
As bad as the outcome was that day, I thought the city was lucky. It could easily have been a bloodbath.
gwangung
@dww44:
You’re entitled to your opinion. But this opinion is twaddle.
He sits in the chair NOW. And being an incumbent brings all sorts of inherent advantages that was earned by his winning the election.
The presidency isn’t like being a Congressional leader. You can’t treat it as the same.
kindness
I just saw the TPM Tucker Carlson headline. I have to wonder if Maria Bartiromo feels safe in her job now.
trollhattan
I would ask how you host 250 at a “private residence” but, Texas. At least nobody died, this time (something, something, no AR-15s).
sdhays
@Dorothy A. Winsor: He’s not getting a final episode, so it seems like this is a euphemism of “fired”.
I wonder who will now step into that cursed hour. Will the new person start off wearing an actual Nazi armband to clear the air over Tuckem’s bowtie?
Paul in KY
@dww44: Oh fuck off. Pres Biden is fine. He’ll be passing it off to VP Harris in his 2nd term.
Baud
@dww44:
I disagree with your take about what’s in his heart. I’m confident he’s doing what he thinks is best for the country, whether or not people disagree with his judgement.
Suzanne
@rikyrah:
I have just a hair more sympathy (just a hair). Maybe they didn’t think they could get whomever they wanted, but that someone would want them at all. The rates of family formation really are dropping pretty fast, and the average age of first-time parenthood is climbing.
But women, when they can choose, are choosing partners who bring as much to the table as they do. And this is why the conservative right wants to take that choice away from women. Not just abortion, but also the choice to get higher education, the choice to take fairly well-paying jobs, the choice of when and whom to marry.
They hate women’s liberation and they want to reverse it.
dmsilev
@Renie: Helped cost his boss most of a billion dollars, so far. That’s a lot of MyPillow ads to pay back.
UncleEbeneezer
@schrodingers_cat: It’s also just a convenient way for (some, NotAll!!) Progressives to bash the mainstream Dem. People who never tire of trying to find ways that the Dem Party fails us all. People who didn’t want Biden to be our candidate in the first place. Now that he’s been very effective as President and even more to the left than most of us expected, they have to find other reasons to doubt him.
We saw this playbook in 2016 when Russian disinfo campaigns spread concerns about Hillary’s health. Instead of rightfully responding “Oh f*** off with this bullshit” way too many people on our side were happy to take the bait and help spread the smears. Here we are again.
trollhattan
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Frealz? Because of the lawsuit, or Tucker being Tucker? IIRC he’s their top rated show.
Baud
@Paul in KY:
I disagree with this too. I don’t assume he’s passing off anything to anyone.
Paul in KY
@Nelle: I’m so sorry that has happened to you. Also to your daughter up wherever she is.
The Thin Black Duke
sdhays
@trollhattan: Jasper clearly isn’t polite enough. Needs moar gunz!
// Texass Republican
UncleEbeneezer
@The Thin Black Duke: Because that was a fantasy for boys/men. All those cringe-worthy movies of the 80’s-90’s make sense if you consider that the people making them were pandering to the Male Gaze and ignoring anyone else’s, entirely.
CaseyL
I see the Tucker Carlson news has reached BJ. It’s a “WOW” moment for sure.
I’ve seen speculation that getting rid of Carlson is a term of the settlement with Dominion. If that is true, then it won’t just be him: there’ve got to be quite a few other propaganda peddlers breaking out in cold sweats right now.
Mimi haha
@Soprano2: Please puke on her for me too.
lowtechcyclist
@Geminid: I’d forgotten about the ACLU’s stand on that. The actual events of that day must’ve crowded it out of my mind.
leeleeFL
@BlueGuitarist: Saw that! Could be perfect, I thought, it we only wanted to mock. But it doesn’t really convey the true evil of their intent, does it? I know a few of them; they really don’t equate Liberty with our right to read what we want to, control our own bodies, or make decisions about our own children. It’s scary and infuriating.
Paul in KY
@Princess: Agree. She may need to run as an incumbent to actually win a race as Pres nominee.
gwangung
@The Thin Black Duke: I mean, WHAT IS THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN?
Hm, he dies. Then VP Harris steps up.
Um, he has a medical event and becomes incapacitated. Then, 25th Amendment, and VP Harris steps up.
Uh, he has a medical event and doesn’t want to step down. Then either the 25th Amendment OR his wife and friends convince him to step down. Then, VP Harris steps up.
I repeat….WHAT IS THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN?
laura
@dww44: The President’s decision to seek a second term benefits ME personally. This Administration has been more responsive to real people’s actual needs and kitchen table issues. I am thrilled to support the Biden Harris reelection campaign and I SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOUR MISOGYNOIR hiding in plain site, but do go on about the upside of a wide-open primary instead of continuing with a winning administration.
jonas
@CaseyL: The thing is, though, as Josh Marshall points out over at TPM, Dominion’s case wasn’t really built around Carlson — it was much more about Pirro, Baritomo and a couple of others. The so-called “B-listers”. I think this was probably a matter of the Murdochs handing down some guidelines about what would and would not be allowed from hosts going forward and Carlson didn’t want to be “muzzled” so he picked up his toys and went home.
jonas
@gwangung: It also seems to be some kind of received wisdom among the punditariat that Harris is dead in the water as a top-of-the-ticket candidate and were something to happen to Biden during the campaign, she’d never pull it over the finish line and whatever Republican toad — Trump or whoever — was left standing would just waltz back into the Oval Office.
Kathleen
@UncleEbeneezer: I agree
rikyrah
@Suzanne:
You ain’t never lied.
Ruckus
@Geminid:
Not near as much for the number one communications rational for humans – complaining – to talk about, now that we have an actual human in the white house and not some fake not rich asshole.
Paul in KY
@dww44: Ronnie was old & acted old (even in 1st term). That’s why those comments were out there. Pres. Biden is old, but doesn’t act old.
Paul in KY
@Baud: I mean once he’s completed his 2nd term. Sorry for the awkward wording there.
Ruckus
@Suzanne:
They really don’t want competition from woman because many men really are out ranked by the woman they marry. Those men want woman in the kitchen and bedroom, without any outside so that they stay obedient and willing. They want the 50s woman ideal. But that is a lot of decades behind and the world and woman have moved on. Thankfully. Many men can not share a life with woman, the competition is too much for them. They need subservience in their lives to be complete. But that isn’t most of today’s world and it is a very good thing that the world has changed and is continuing to change. Because that world was an idealized world and idealized outside of humanity in all of it’s bends, twists and individuality.
Ruckus
@dww44:
You are a negative. You always look only at any negative you think you can find and focus only on that. It is your only constant commenting here. NEGATIVE. It’s tiring that you can’t seem to find anything positive.
Elizabelle
@The Thin Black Duke: Lovely to see you back here. Have you been away?
We were teasing Ms. Bianca that she gave us up for Lent.
Ruckus
@OzarkHillbilly:
I really don’t understand the angst over Biden’s age. I’m more worried about the 47% or so who were OK with trump’s blatant sociopathy.
This. A million times this.
I am only a few years younger than President Biden and I do not want that job. I knew a lot of people who never got as old as me and a fair number of whom have lived a lot longer than President Biden. It is life, he’s leading a country very well, better than most every president of my lifetime and I wish him a long and healthy life.
Suzanne
@rikyrah: The interesting intersectional note….. lots of them complain about DEI measures, having to not be racist at work, etc…. they talk about this as feminizing. HR is deeply coded as women harshing the free speech of men, and the complaints center around women now having the power to set the social mores of the workplace, the university, etc.
J R in WV
@dww44:
In my book, he is passing on his power to MVP Harris, which is fine by me!
J R in WV
@dww44:
In my book, he is passing on his power to MVP Harris, which is fine by me!
rikyrah
This sounds crazy.
Hazing, Naked Skates and a ‘mental-health Hunger Games’: The dark side of Harvard women’s ice hockey
Hailey Salvian and Katie Strang
Mar 10, 2023
On Jan. 21, hours after the Harvard women’s ice hockey team fell 3-1 to Union College, Crimson coach Katey Stone walked into the Boynton Lounge, a hospitality suite within The Bright-Landry Hockey Center. It was the night of the HH Dinner, the marquee event of alumni weekend, and the room was filled with Stone’s former and current players, athletic department officials and others.
Stone, 56, has coached Harvard for 27 seasons and has more wins than any other female coach in collegiate women’s hockey history. Photos of the great players from her teams adorn a wall outside the lounge. Some of those players clustered with former teammates around the space, reconnecting, catching up about careers and families. Stone moved among them, buoyant. The drinks and stories flowed.
But amidst the socializing and revelry was an undercurrent of unease. Stone and many others at the dinner knew that the Boston Globe was about to publish an exposé about the program. Days earlier, current players and some alumni received an email from Stone notifying them of a coming article that would accuse her of fostering “a culture that has emotionally damaged many of the girls I have recruited.”
As they socialized, some attendees speculated about what the article might reveal and who spoke to the newspaper. Others denounced the story as a hit piece. When athletic director Erin McDermott praised Stone and her legacy in a speech, some saw it as a public vote of confidence. Holly Johnson, a member of Stone’s first team (1994-95), forcefully reminded the players and alumni that their association with the program gave them credibility. She added that the reputation of the program is sacred.
https://theathletic.com/4288145/2023/03/10/harvard-womens-hockey-mistreatment-hazing-katey-stone/?campaign_id=190&emc=edit_ufn_20230423&instance_id=90871&nl=from-the-times®i_id=92299482&segment_id=131155&te=1&user_id=7f8f6ec05fb440fb2dad9709582b8a0e
SteverinoCT
Kinder, Kuche, Kirche, as they say.