Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Come on, man.

I’m pretty sure there’s only one Jack Smith.

A last alliance of elves and men. also pet photos.

Red lights blinking on democracy’s dashboard

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

Jesus, Mary, & Joseph how is that election even close?

I’m sure you banged some questionable people yourself.

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

Battle won, war still ongoing.

This fight is for everything.

Innocent people don’t delay justice.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

Schmidt just says fuck it, opens a tea shop.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires

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The Song Says It All

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If you have 2 minutes, listen to the song.  It perfectly captures the feeling in the air this week. (Even if today feels rather flat, this is where we’re headed.)

I think we’ll see an indictment from Jack Smith in the next 3-4 weeks, at the latest.  Why do I think that?  I just do.

I also believe that Fani Willis made her public announcement in part so everyone could have a feel for the timing of her upcoming actions, in case it was helpful for anyone to know there’s a window of time before GA announcements hit.  With emphasis on the word “anyone”, if you know what (who) I mean.  And I think you do.

Totally open thread.

Update:

Excellent suggestion from Sister Golden Bear

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  3. 3.

    RaflW

    If you’re a Trumper, maybe the Broadway song is “Soon it’s gonna rain” from the Fantastics.

    Tried several searches and TBH, didn’t find a video that I liked. I learned the song a number of years ago in my “Advanced singing basics for adults” class. The name of the class still makes me laugh – but we students had such fun and loved our teacher so much that, after taking “Singing basics” twice, the school created the advanced class because they didn’t want to end up with never-evers in our class section the 3rd time :)

  4. 4.

    Anonymous At Work

    Fanni Willis made her announcement since she had to file a ton of motions on the public docket anyway.  Her motions wouldn’t have “leaked.”  If you take a chainsaw to the hull of a wooden boat, it’s not a leak.  So, she told the area law enforcement to prepare for grand jury shenanigans from the press, and then possible issues with protestors and counter-protestors each escorted by 12 journalists apiece.

  9. 9.

    Damien

    I’d say based on DA Willis’s announcement and the fact that it pissed off dipshit conservatives that Demi Lovato’s “Cool for the Summer” is my choice.

    The lyric “It’s ok, I’m curious too” has such a double meaning that I think it can handle a triple meaning.

  10. 10.

    West of the Rockies

    What must it feel like to be a horrible narcissist and being indicted for multiple felonies in one district,  civilly sued in another for rape, about to be indicted in a third state for felony election tampering, and facing federal felonies at any moment?

    I would think his guts would be a tsunami sharknado of distress and rage and terror and humiliation.

  13. 13.

    OzarkHillbilly

    I think we’ll see an indictment from Jack Smith when we see one, not before then, and I do expect to see one.

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    @West of the Rockies: @Spanky:

    I kind of think T**** is still in denial.  If E. Jean Carroll wins her lawsuit, as she should, I that will likely be a shock to him, but he can still dismiss it as a civil suit.

    I think he cracks when the Special Counsel indicts, which I think he will.

  15. 15.

    Roger Moore

    @WaterGirl: ​
     

    He’s never gonna believe there are consequences until he hears a verdict of “Guilty” in criminal court, and maybe not even then.

    Not even then. He doesn’t really believe the legal system has anything to do with people’s actions. If he’s convicted, it will be because his enemies are in charge and are using their power to punish him. That’s the way he sees the legal system in general: it’s purely about exercise of power and not about abstract principles of justice.

  16. 16.

    delphinium

    @Damien: This Deftones song was what came to my mind per DA Willis’s and others potential summer actions.

    “Hey you, big star tell me when it’s over.

    ‘Cause I’m through when the two hits the six and it’s summer…”

  24. 24.

    Scout211

    This is just . . .  WTF?

    Look out M&Ms.Stephen Miller is coming for you. 

    TUCKER CARLSON MAY be gone from Fox, but MAGA world is going after his greatest nemesis: the green M&M.
    America First Legal, the legal activist group founded by former Trump adviser Stephen Miller, on Wednesday filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) against Mars Inc., the maker of M&M’s. The pro-Trump nonprofit alleges Mars’ efforts to increase diversity and representation of minorities within its workforce constitutes discrimination and a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

  27. 27.

    Albatrossity

    I’m not making predictions about timing of any of the predicted indictments from Smith. The Pence testimony yesterday might have given them leverage to shake down Meadows and give him a choice to make: does he want to be a witness, or a defendant. If he flips, they will have to take more time to get that testimony added to the evidence and the list of crimes. And even if he doesn’t, remember that any indictment from the Special Counsel will require AG Garland to approve it. That might not happen quickly, alas…

  28. 28.

    Other MJS

    PSA: For anyone not already aware, if your cat bites you, seek medical attention. Cats are filthy-mouthed furry Komodo dragons. Fortunately, my friends nagged me into it in a timely fashion.

  29. 29.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: “You Can’t Always Get What You Want” has been adopted as a conservative anthem for a while–they’re mostly responding to the title/chorus and think it’s a knock on lazy bums looking for government handouts.

    And I suppose it flatters the conservative notion that they’re the only ones who realize the world is tough and life is unfair.

  32. 32.

    eversor

    I dunno I’ve spent my entire life watching these types of people walk for all their crimes.  I’ve also worked for some top law firms on the IT side of things.  Firms that were staffed by good solid Democrats from the best schools, and solid social liberals, who made their entire careers out of guarding and helping the powerful and grinding the weak and the poor into paste.

    I have no faith in the system.  Regardless of liberal or conservative “values” it exists entirely to punch down and protect up.   This can’t be changed through politics which is the bread and circus to get people to buy into the system.   What matters is the power that comes from money, violence, and ruthlessness.  Someone in power will only ever face the bullshit lie we are fed of justice when their peers or someone above them has had enough.  If you are not in power the only justice you can hope for comes from your will to be violent.

    If Trump does face consequences for his actions it’s not going to be because the system “worked” in the way some idealists pretend it does, or even could.  It will because he became a pain to bigger sharks and was to silly to realize that the way the world works is you can abuse, use, destroy anyone below you because that’s the rules.  That’s the game.  But the moment you cause discomfort to those above you the system will destroy you.

    I want him in jail for treason personally.   I’d settle for a hanging.  But his ass should have been locked up or executed decades ago (I personally don’t have an issue with executing people that do the shit he has done and at this point I’d help build the gallows for his treasonous ass).   That this is only happening now, after he has helped sink the political goals of people vastly more powerful than he could ever hope to be, and would never have happened if he hadn’t been dumb enough to run for president and then think he was actually in charge, makes me furious.  It also makes me mad because I know the result will be to claim “see the system works” and then not change shit or go after all the other fuckers who need jail or hanging.

    Don’t get me wrong I’ll break out the scotch and play ding dong the witch is dead when he goes.  What I am saying is we need to bring back taring and feathering, also angry mobs with pitch forks.

  35. 35.

    geg6

    @Other MJS:

    My Cleo bites me all the time.  Mostly just love bites, but sometimes she has broken the skin.  Never had a problem.  But she also has never left our house since we found her as a 2-week-old in our garage.

  36. 36.

    Other MJS

    @eversor: Trump committed sedition on live television. Watch for his minions to protest with an obfuscated version of “he can’t get a fair trial because everyone saw him do it.”

  38. 38.

    eversor

    @Other MJS:

    Also true of dogs.  Both spend all their days licking their asses and at times eat turds.  Really, if you get bitten by anything go to the doctor.

    People will laugh but rodents can screw you up good as well.  Keep in mind these are animals that chew through wood, concrete, and even solid metals.  When mad they part their incisor death of “death too solid steel” and have at you.  And a pissed off rat or gerbil can go at it for a rather long time and will take on things several times their size creating the rabbit of doom scene from Monty Python.   It’s quite the scene when they decided “fuck it, we’ll do it live!”.

  39. 39.

    Other MJS

    @geg6: That’s probably OK. Mine was a serious bite. Just wanted everyone to be aware; as I said, I required some nagging and I’m grateful for it. Also, I enjoy saying “filthy-mouthed furry Komodo dragons” these days.

  40. 40.

    Other MJS

    @eversor: The immediate care doc said to me (paraphrased): “Yeah, cats. If they don’t get you with the bite, they just wait for you to get sepsis.” So it’s probably adaptive for them.

  41. 41.

    Baud

    Via reddit, Twitter’s steady downfall continues.

    NYC commuters will no longer see service alerts and other informative posts from the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) on Twitter. The agency runs several accounts that provide passengers with useful real-time updates, such as whether a particular route or train has been suspended. But now it has posted a farewell message on the website, explaining that Twitter “is no longer reliable for providing the consistent updates riders expect.” While it didn’t elaborate on why it’s leaving the social network, Bloomberg says it was because the company was asking the MTA to fork over $50,000 a month for access to its API.

    ….

    The official MTA account is now encouraging customers to bookmark the agency’s official website, to download its MYmta and TrainTime apps, to monitor its WhatsApp channel for subway and bus information, as well as to sign up for email and SMS alerts.

  42. 42.

    eversor

    @Other MJS:

    Oh I know that’s going to happen.  But I care less about his maniacs throwing a fit, or even getting violent and causing carnage, than I do about the fact that the system exists to let people like him get away with it.

  45. 45.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    @Sister Golden Bear: Great suggestion; perfect song for the topic. I love the way the drums don’t come in until halfway thru. Great song. I can remember hearing it for the first time on Miami Vice.

  46. 46.

    eversor

    @Other MJS:

    As someone who had to be EMT trained in the military it’s not just cats, or even animals at large.  The most common causes of death of punture, slashing, and all sorts of other wounds for hundreds, perhaps thousands, of years was the resulting infection after.  This is why disinfecting wounds and keeping everything sterile all the time is a must.  Also why I keep massive jugs of rubbing alcohol around all the time at home as I do a lot of things that cause wounds (wood working, model building, cooking, and other fun stuff).

    If you have an animal, it has shit mouth.  Rodents, cats, dogs, all lick their assholes clean.  They also eat poop, and scrape and dig in poop, and then lick their hands clean.  So a bite from any of these is a fecal injenction straight into your blood stream.  You should always rapidly clean it, dress it, and go see a doc.  Not because your furry friend is secretly coating their teeth in shit all day saying “and one day your ass will be mine” but that is how it can work out.

  47. 47.

    eclare

    @eversor:

    Two things I’ve learned:

    Anything with teeth can bite

    Any mammal can carry rabies

    Years ago a fellow vacationer had to return to the US for the shots after he was bitten by a stray dog in Peru.

  49. 49.

    Jeffro

    @WaterGirl:He’s never gonna believe there are consequences until he hears a verdict of “Guilty” in criminal court, and maybe not even then.

    Not even then.

    But before that, he’ll be (even more) openly calling for his supporters to commit acts of violence against his enemies.

  50. 50.

    Jeffro

    @Matt McIrvin:it flatters the conservative notion that they’re the only ones who realize the world is tough and life is unfair.

    bingo

    and that it’s especially unfair to them.

  51. 51.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    @eversor: Years ago I was bitten (my fault) by a feral cat I had trapped for TNR. I ended up at the ER a few days later when even I could not deny the seriousness of the infection. I was embarrassed to be there (it was “just a cat bite”), but was happily surprised when they took the bite VERY seriously. Fingers have less blood flow and circulation which is a problem for antibiotics. I ended up with a stent in my arm for a few days while I mainlined antibiotics. Lessons learned!

  55. 55.

    rikyrah

    I believe Ms. Willis was putting the law enforcement clowns down there on notice. That same phucking energy that they have for non-violent BLM Protestors, or those protesting that Military thing they’re building down it Atlanta…you best be prepared for these clowns, who actually DO have a propensity for violence.

  56. 56.

    Sure Lurkalot

    On the Jack Smith cases, I wonder how much of the testimony from the reluctant, subpoenaed witnesses corroborates and how much it contradicts. Because those lying sacks of shit lie, a lot. Pretty much every time Pence opens his mouth, bullshit escapes. It doesn’t matter if he says he sincerely believes it because that’s a lie too.

    In short, beyond the evidence that can be seen and heard, it must be quite the task to sift out the facts. I wish Jack luck and Godspeed, with the emphasis on speed. I say this every comment on this topic…I get that this work is hard and procedural but every day that passes, the psychopath floods the zone with more of his totalitarian bullshit. We all laugh and say he didn’t accomplish anything but tax cuts but if he gets re-elected, the days will be dark and darker, once again.

  58. 58.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    @eclare:  You Can’t Always Get What You Want is a great song. I love it, but I have to say the lyrics are a bit weird.  “She was practiced at the art of deception, I could tell by her bloodstained hands.”  What is that anyway?  As for why Trump likes it,

    Who can explain it?

    Who can tell you why?

    Fools give you reasons…

    As for the unfairness of it all, I go with Randy Newman.

  59. 59.

    rikyrah

    @Baud:

    I will miss this. As a Manager, I use the Official Twitter Accounts for Public Transportation to confirm when Staff call in and say that they are going to be late because of Transportation Issues. It’s nothing to go over to Twitter, get the screenshot and then shoot it to HR with the Staff’s name that will be late.

  60. 60.

    Spanky

    This is my shocked face.

    Per WaPo:

    Florida lawmakers on Friday cleared the path for Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) to run for president without resigning as governor, approving the measure as part of a broader elections bill.

    The bill, which passed on a mostly party-line vote in the Republican-controlled legislature, stipulates that a rule requiring political candidates already holding office to resign does not apply to anyone running for president or vice president.

    Coming ahead of DeSantis’s expected bid for the nation’s highest office, Republicans said the change simply clarified existing state law. Democrats decried it as a carve-out for DeSantis and questioned whether he could effectively govern while campaigning.

  61. 61.

    Ohio Mom

    @Scout211: As I remember it, the Mars company is privately owned by yes, the Mars family, and they are one of the eighteen families who have banded together and chipped in to rid our country of the scourge of estate taxes, or as their campaign renamed them, Death Taxes.

    In other words, the Mars family are Stephen Miller’s fellow travelers on the rabid right. They seem a strange target for Miller to aim at, but then again, he never struck me as particularly smart.

  62. 62.

    Captain C

    @Scout211: “Your efforts to not discriminate are discriminating against untalented scammers good normal white people like myself.  Give me money!!!”

    -A Personal Responsibility Hard-Working Anti-Trial Lawyer Republican

  63. 63.

    oldgold

    I think the documents case should and will be brought forward soon.

    As for the January 6 case, I am less than confident it will ever be brought.

  65. 65.

    zhena gogolia

    Hmmm. I just answered “Elizabeth Something” on the WaPo weekly news quiz to a question about disgraced tech person whose last name I can never remember, and they gave me full points!

  69. 69.

    Betty Cracker

    I don’t have y’all’s faith but hope to be pleasantly surprised! In the meantime, Mr. Smith’s resemblance to Coach Beard on Ted Lasso makes his Twitter fandom more interesting.

  72. 72.

    Dangerman

    There was a catchy little tune a few years ago; I think the frequently repeated words were “Forget You”. That seems appropriate for Trump this afternoon.

    ETA : It WAS “Forget You”, right?

  76. 76.

    🐾BillinGlendaleCA

    @Baud:

    (Waves @Baud)

    I saw your comment downstairs…

    I’m more of a lurker these days.  Since I work late(3pm-12am, PDT), I usually only see threads well past their demise.

    So SteveintheWTF is partially correct, the deliveries staging area at the Glendale store or the Owens Valley would be a good place to look(I’ve not been to Joshua Tree in about a year, Owens Valley is much darker).

  78. 78.

    Burnspbesq

    @Scout211:

    That’s hilarious. Wonder if they bothered to do any basic research. If they had, they’d have learned they were suing a family of rabid right-wingers.

  81. 81.

    🐾BillinGlendaleCA

    @JPL: I don’t mind the hours that much, but having my shift end at 12am can really screw with OT if I work past 12(which does happen) and I don’t get a full 40 hours in for the week(the time past 12am go to the next day).

    The biggest problem I’ve had with it is the divergence between the expectations of the opening crew(they just want deliveries “fork ready”(just stick a forklift in the delivery and put it on the truck) and their performance on getting the deliveries ready that show up during their shift(“it still has 18 hours to go, let the closer do it).  I also have a new department head, so I have to keep her in the loop so this doesn’t happen.

  82. 82.

    trollhattan

    America.

    HOUSTON — A Texas man on a date who paid $40 to park, only to learn inside a Houston burger joint that he was scammed, allegedly went back and fatally shot the man posing as an attendant and then returned for dinner, according to court records.
    Erick Aguirre appeared in court Thursday on murder charges in the April 11 death of 46-year-old Elliot Nix. His bond was set at $200,000. His attorney, Brent Mayr, declined to comment. Aguirre, 29, allegedly told his date “everything was fine” and that he just scared the man after returning to the Rodeo Goat restaurant from the parking lot. They then started walking to a table but left to eat someplace else after Aguirre looked uncomfortable, according to court records.
    Aguirre’s date contacted police two days later after police had released photos of the couple, who had been identified by tips to Crime Stoppers. “She wanted to do the right thing. She wanted to make sure that she came forward and told the police what she knew,” Rick DeToto, the woman’s attorney told NBC affiliate KPRC of Houston.
    Police say Aguirre and his date had parked their vehicles near the downtown restaurant when Nix approached them, saying it would cost $20 each to park their cars, according to a probable cause affidavit. Aguirre paid the $40 but was later told by a restaurant employee that Nix didn’t work for the parking lot and had scammed them, police said.
    An employee at a nearby smoke shop later told police he saw Aguirre run back to his car, grab a pistol and go after Nix. The employee said both men went out of his view but he heard a gunshot before 8 p.m., then saw Aguirre “nonchalantly walking back to his car with the gun in his hand” before putting the gun back in his car. Aguirre then walked back to the restaurant and went inside with his date, according to the affidavit.
    Nix was taken to a hospital, where he later died.

  83. 83.

    karen marie

    @…now I try to be amused:   This is what concerns me – Trump and his followers believing that “Dark Brandon” is vindictive.  I wake up every morning and check to see if Trump died overnight.  I can well imagine Junior announcing it was murder and RWNJs just start shooting.

    Much as I would like to be done with him, not even death will cleanse the world of the chaos he’s created.

  84. 84.

    🐾BillinGlendaleCA

    @Baud: It has always been the case with us on the west coast, especially when we are late risers.   There will be a bunch of threads that show up when we wake, so either I’ll skip a bunch or read though the comments and have a backlog.

  86. 86.

    karen marie

    @eversor: What matters is the power that comes from money, violence, and ruthlessness.

     

    The world has not changed in thousands of years. We’ve been lulled into thinking we were past that by the relative peace of the ’80s and ’90s. There may not have been a lot of shooting but the money, violence and ruthlessness merely took other, less obvious paths.

  87. 87.

    Ruckus

    @West of the Rockies:

    Only if he was actually human would he feel any of that. He’s worked his entire life not to be a real human but with his level of intelligence, his lack of any common sense, the loser stink that permeates every cell in that whatever kind of shitty structure that is, and his concept that he’s better than every human on the planet, despite the literally overwhelming tons of evidence to the polar opposite, he goes on. But he’s sounding worse and worse, his age and general health, his genes all suggest that our time to have to be bothered by him is likely shorter than he would hope, even if longer than we do.

  88. 88.

    karen marie

    @geg6:   Depends how deeply the skin is broken.  My previous cat bit me quite deeply while we were at the vet, and a quick trip to the doctor for antibiotics was absolutely necessary.  My hand swelled significantly and the pain was immense.  If she’d hit bone, I could well have ended up in the hospital.

  89. 89.

    Ruckus

    @Roger Moore:

    Do you really think he understands abstract principles, or principles of any kind? Or if he does do you think that he believes any of them apply to him?

  92. 92.

    zeecube

    @Other MJS: Reminds me of long ago about our Siamese stray, Octavia.  She obviously had a former owner as her front paws were declawed.  She was destined to live as a house cat but was always trying to escape.  One time she succeeded, bolting out the front door.  It was not easy trying wrastling with a cat who had no intention of being caught.    Finally, I just let her latch onto my arm with her teeth, as she seemed cool with THAT.  Once safely back inside, I was able to pry her off my arm.  I counted 19 puncture marks on both forearms and hands.

    Probably should have gotten a shot of antibiotics.  Instead, I just doused my arms with hydrogen peroxide until they stopped fizzing.

    Cat bonded with me after that.  I guess she realized I was not trying to harm her.  Octavia lived a long and happy cat life, and passed away at 18.  Great cat.

  93. 93.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    For your nature photos, do you hike when you take them? Hiking seems like it’d be a lot of fun from what I’ve read about it. I’d have a lot of work to do to prepare for that, even casual hiking

    The stories of hikers/backpackers being stalked by mountain lions/bears both scare and excite me at the same time, though I know attacks are incredibly rare

    The idea of camping on a hiking trail during a thru-hike seems pretty cool, taking in nature and all that. Would need a lot of time and money on my hands though ^^’

    This is years away, so I’m not going to rush into it

  94. 94.

    Jay

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:

    I had to LMAO today. My old Orange is again trying to hire a Tool Tech.

    After they fired me, Gary who I trained started burning out after 6 months, so they hired Karl, for $5 more an hour than they were paying Gary,  to “help” Gary, and Karl did nothing. I thought he would last as at my Orange, the people who do nothing, tend to last.

    They fired Gary in March,

    And Karl in April.

    Before they hired me, when they didn’t have a tool tech, they would bring in Manu from the Vancouver store, or Michael from the Coquitlam store to fix enough tools on overtime and double overtime to keep the Tool Rental open, but when they fired me, both Michael and Manu refused to come in and fix tools.

    Now they are back to doing what they did before they hired me, hiding the broken tools in a cargo container on the lot so the Managers and District don’t see them.

  95. 95.

    Dangerman

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I’d have a lot of work to do to prepare for that, even casual hiking.

    If casual hiking isn’t your thing, consider Rails to Trails. It’s Railroad line that has been converted to bike routes. High on my list is is the Kettle Valley system in British Columbia. Since my sleeping in tents ended about the same time as I discovered Jacuzzi’s (coupled with the fact that I can’t remember the last GF that would consider sleeping on the ground), something like the KVR can be done in segments.

    The one I am waiting for is the The Great Redwood Trail, which would connect SF Bay to Humboldt Bay. That’s still a bit of a pipe dream but it might happen.

  98. 98.

    eclare

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Hiking is fun!  A friend and I were in Yosemite and heard a very deep, chainsaw like noise, we were in the middle of nowhere, we assumed it was a bear.  We both started talking really loudly and kept on.

    Sign at Big Bend NP:  if you encounter a mountain lion, first put any small children on your shoulders

    Never slept outdoors, though.  After eight miles or so, nice to have a hot shower, good meal, and a drink.

    Best advice I got:  get really nice wool socks and use sockliners.

  100. 100.

    🐾BillinGlendaleCA

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Most of my day shots are from day hikes, I don’t have the gear to do overnight stuff(the exception being Little Lakes Valley a few years ago, but we didn’t stay overnight).  I may hike alone, but I stick to well travelled trails.   I’ve never seen a mountain lion and only one bear(Yosemite 45 years ago).

  101. 101.

    Dangerman

    @Jay: …beauty of Rails to Trails is that there is minimal grade

    Exactly. The days of climbing steep grades are oh so over for me.

    There’s another one on the blackboard (whiteboard?) that would be way cool; many of the segments are done, they just need to be connected.

    Great American Rail Trail

  103. 103.

    eversor

    @karen marie:

    Most people do not know how to properly treat a wound.  This is a basic skill I feel should be taught.  Properly cleaning a wound is not “douse it in iodine and slap a bandaid on” by any stretch.

    My most recent fiasco was a bike wreck where my nephew and my sister in law were horrified to come into the shower and find me buck ass naked tweezering out gravel and using steel wool on my wounds with a pot of boiling water and jug of rubbing alcohol (was in a rural area and the hospital was a bit off, I wasn’t going to keep bits of dirt in me, sue me!), I went to the hospital later and all was well!

    It takes skill, time, effort, and often a ton of pain to properly clean and dress a wound.  We take it forgranted cause we don’t die of “stepped on a nail” anymore (for the most part) but it’s all serious stuff.  Wound treatment for most people is slap some iodine on it, rubbing alcohol if you are brave, and slap a bandage or gauze on it, which is you know, not doing much of much.  Still worth doing, but proper wound cleaning and dressing this is not.

    Hell we were also on the same vacation in rural PA where a niece required care.  I keep a travel pack with me because you never know!  So I went to work and the howling and yowling and complaining about a basic cleaning (no steel wool just getting in their and scrubbing the thing) plus basic sutures was amazing.  Luckily uncle to be me and the father are both ex military and knew what to do.  But the amount of “throw idione on it and let it go, we can still go on” was amazing and frustrating.

    Go take an EMT class, don’t have to pass, just learn you a bit.

  104. 104.

    🐾BillinGlendaleCA

    @Jay: Pretty much the same here…we had two FT’s that were willing to work closing, myself and Freddie(he was hired a few months after me).  I was/am the regular closer, Freddie would close when I was off, this worked great.  Freddie was a good worker, but had some transportation issues so he racked up occurrences, they termed him in early January.  So now they make one of the other guys work closing when I’m not there, he doesn’t want that schedule and is pissed.  They apparently hired a new guy a few months ago, but he NCNS’ed after orientation.  I heard that he had a family emergency his first day, but he never showed after that.

    My previous DH(who got termed for chasing a shoplifter for a mile and then pushing him) came into the job thinking he knew everything about the service desk and OFA work.  He was the former AP and I don’t think had ever worked at the desk or deliveries.  He thought he knew everything, he knew nothing(as our remaining SDL said).  They’re trying to move someone into the SDL role(we went from 3 to 1, one quit and one got promoted to Pro DH at another store).  Our new DH is the sister of the SDL who quit(she has another sister that still works in the store), she seems to know what she doesn’t know and will ask questions.  She spent a bunch of time with one of the CXM’s who used to be a SDL.

    As far as deliveries go, the closer has to have all deliveries “fork ready”(banded and wrapped) for the openers.  The problem is they schedule 3 openers(all equipment certified) and one or two closers(only one will be there after store closing, and often none with equipment licenses).  This past week, I’ve been the only OFA for 4 to 5 hours.

  105. 105.

    karen marie

    @eversor:  I agree that many people don’t know how to clean and care for a wound.  I consider myself to be a pro at doing so.

    Cat bites are an entirely different animal, however.  The vet had told me I should go immediately to the doctor but, given my history of success in treating wounds on my person, I thought it was unnecessary.  Less than an hour later, I was on the phone to get in to see a doctor.  The pain was terrific, and the swelling positively frightening.

    When it comes to wounds, everyone should understand their own limitations.  I recommend being especially cautious when it comes to animal bites.

    As far as I know, there’s no such thing as “an EMT class.”  Typically, an EMT course takes six months or longer, and they’re not free.   It’s easy to learn about wound care on the internet – although, obviously, there’s a lot of nuts who will steer you into an early and avoidable grave.

    I think the best rule to live by is “know your limitations and act accordingly.

     

    PS I don’t know what happened that my partial comment posted.  Scratch the partial.

  110. 110.

    WaterGirl

    @🐾BillinGlendaleCA:  Holy shit, Bill, would you like me to sign you up for the refresher course on talking to peeps who don’t know this new language?  I have bolded all the abbreviations I do not know.

    Pretty much the same here…we had two FT’s that were willing to work closing, myself and Freddie(he was hired a few months after me).  I was/am the regular closer, Freddie would close when I was off, this worked great.  Freddie was a good worker, but had some transportation issues so he racked up occurrences, they termed him in early January.  So now they make one of the other guys work closing when I’m not there, he doesn’t want that schedule and is pissed.  They apparently hired a new guy a few months ago, but he NCNS’ed after orientation.  I heard that he had a family emergency his first day, but he never showed after that.

    My previous DH(who got termed for chasing a shoplifter for a mile and then pushing him) came into the job thinking he knew everything about the service desk and OFA work.  He was the former AP and I don’t think had ever worked at the desk or deliveries.  He thought he knew everything, he knew nothing(as our remaining SDL said).  They’re trying to move someone into the SDL role(we went from 3 to 1, one quit and one got promoted to Pro DH at another store).  Our new DH is the sister of the SDL who quit(she has another sister that still works in the store), she seems to know what she doesn’t know and will ask questions.  She spent a bunch of time with one of the CXM’s who used to be a SDL.

    As far as deliveries go, the closer has to have all deliveries “fork ready”(banded and wrapped) for the openers.  The problem is they schedule 3 openers(all equipment certified) and one or two closers(only one will be there after store closing, and often none with equipment licenses).  This past week, I’ve been the only OFA for 4 to 5 hours.

    I assume “termed” means fired.  Why don’t they call it that?  They aren’t fooling anybody.

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