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You are here: Home / Domestic Terrorism / Late Night Open Thread: Former NYC Field Office F.B.I. Agent Charged in Jan. 6 Riot

Late Night Open Thread: Former NYC Field Office F.B.I. Agent Charged in Jan. 6 Riot

by Anne Laurie|  May 3, 202310:53 pm| 71 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Terrorism, Jan 6: Insurrection, Republican Venality

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i tire of ‘hillary was right’ framing but in the case of the NY FBI field office she was absolutely fucking right https://t.co/sfSA42Vfpk

— the abbot of unreason (an archaeologist) 🥬 (@merovingians) May 3, 2023

Federal prosecutors have charged a former F.B.I. agent with illegally entering the Capitol during the Jan. 6 riot and said he had called police officers Nazis as he encouraged a mob of Trump loyalists to kill them.

The former agent, Jared L. Wise, was arrested on Monday and faces four misdemeanor counts, including disrupting the orderly conduct of government and trespassing, after agents received a tip in January last year that he had been inside the Capitol, according to a criminal complaint…

Over the past two years, scores of rioters with military experience have been arrested in connection with the Capitol attack. But Mr. Wise is the rare former federal agent to have been charged. The F.B.I. said agents first found Mr. Wise living in New Braunfels, Texas, before he moved to Bend, Ore., in June…

From 2004 to 2017, Mr. Wise worked on public corruption and counterterrorism matters at the F.B.I. field offices in Washington, D.C., and New York. He was briefly detailed to Libya to help agents investigate the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, in 2012, that killed four Americans. Mr. Wise left the bureau after his supervisors in New York became unhappy with his work, and his career had stalled, a former senior F.B.I. official said.

Mr. Wise later joined the conservative group Project Veritas under the supervision of a former British spy, Richard Seddon, who had been recruited by the security contractor Erik Prince to train operatives to infiltrate trade unions, Democratic congressional campaigns and other targets…

I swear, one of the big reasons the MAGAts worship TFG is that he did his best to live out their Walter Mitty fantasies.

Everyone needs to be The Star of an imaginary blockbuster movie now. Regular ol’ life is just too bOrInG.
(h/t @RadioFreeTom cuz this is his thesis topic.) https://t.co/un5c9ntSt3

— JMoLawre ☮️🗯🔳🔲 (@JMoLawre) May 3, 2023

NBC, via Yahoo:

… Wise was charged with entering and remaining in a restricted building; disorderly conduct in a restricted building; disorderly conduct with an intent to impede an orderly session of Congress; and unlawfully parading, demonstrating or picketing in a Capitol building.

“I’m former—I’m former law enforcement. You’re disgusting. You are the Nazi. You are the Gestapo. You can’t see it. … Shame on you! Shame on you! Shame on you!” federal authorities say he told officers after he entered the Capitol. “Yeah, f— them! Yeah, kill ’em! Kill ’em! Kill ’em! Kill ’em!”

The FBI said that security video showed Wise entered the Capitol through the Senate wing door and that cellphone data confirmed his presence. He later exited out a window, it said.

The incident when Wise yelled at police took place on the upper west terrace at around 4:21 p.m., when violence against police officers was happening in front of him, “including officers being knocked to the ground directly in front of him,” the FBI affidavit said. That’s when Wise “turned in the direction of the violence” and called for the mob to kill officers, the FBI affidavit said…

The person central to Project Veritas’ “secret surveillance operations against F.B.I. employees, aimed at exposing anti-Trump sentiment in the bureau’s ranks” hired the former FBI supervisory special agent, per this NYT piece from 2021: https://t.co/wHsi6yrsTP

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) May 3, 2023

bragging about it, even

— the abbot of unreason (an archaeologist) 🥬 (@merovingians) May 3, 2023

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    1. 1.

      Baud

      May 3, 2023 at 10:56 pm

      I’m not tired of saying Hillary was right about everything.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      rikyrah

      May 3, 2023 at 11:01 pm

      She really should sell t-shirts and mugs….

       

      I WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!

       

      That also would have been the title of my book.

       

      Hillary is just better than me. The level of PETTY that I would have…..

      Reply
    3. 3.

      Chetan Murthy

      May 3, 2023 at 11:03 pm

      @rikyrah: I think many of us are Hillary’s inflamed sense of grievance.  I’m still incredibly bitter about it all.

      Reply
    4. 4.

      Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

      May 3, 2023 at 11:23 pm

      I guess you could say that it was Unwise of him, eh?

      Reply
    5. 5.

      Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

      May 3, 2023 at 11:25 pm

      @rikyrah:

      @Chetan Murthy:

      What part of HITLERY THE HAWK and DONALD THE DOVE don’t you get?! /s

      Reply
    6. 6.

      Chetan Murthy

      May 3, 2023 at 11:30 pm

      @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I know, and she’s so shrill, too!

      Reply
    7. 7.

      Alison Rose

      May 3, 2023 at 11:35 pm

      @rikyrah: She should put a stipulation in her will that this line gets carved on her tombstone.

      Reply
    8. 8.

      Carlo Graziani

      May 3, 2023 at 11:52 pm

      Still, this parade of small-time 1/6 defendants is starting to feel like an opening band that won’t leave the stage for the main event.

      Tacopina is calling no witnesses in E. Jean Carroll’s rape trial, case expected to go to the Jury “early next week” according to the NYT. My impression is that the defense was in no way masterful. It’s a civil suit, so no occasion for orange-jumpsuit-tailoring, but still, putting a big “RAPIST” tattoo on Trump’s  forehead would up the stakes a bit, as well as adding some nice fuel to the Dobbs-consequence GOP dumpster fire.

      And I can’t wait for the Biblical Scourge-faced Jack Smith to bring down the Hammer of God on Trump. I hope there’s nothing left where he stood but an orange-stained grease spot to be power-washed away when that great legal smiting happens.

      Plus, good sideshows in Georgia and New York. I may have to relent and get cable.

      Reply
    9. 9.

      Alison Rose

      May 3, 2023 at 11:57 pm

      @Carlo Graziani:

      putting a big “RAPIST” tattoo on Trump’s  forehead would up the stakes a bit

      Damn, do I ever wish that could be part of the punishment.

      Reply
    10. 10.

      mrmoshpotato

      May 4, 2023 at 12:05 am

      @rikyrah: I think you might like this mock book cover.

      Reply
    11. 11.

      mrmoshpotato

      May 4, 2023 at 12:06 am

      As I said earlier,

      Punch him in the nuts! Punch him in the nuts! Punch him in the nuts, Lady Justice!

      And then throw his white trash, Dump-humping, Nazi shit ass in prison!

      Reply
    12. 12.

      mrmoshpotato

      May 4, 2023 at 12:07 am

      @Baud:

      I’m not tired of saying Hillary was right about everything. 

      Same here!

      Reply
    13. 13.

      mrmoshpotato

      May 4, 2023 at 12:09 am

      @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Hillary coughed!  Is she going to die?!?!?!

      Reply
    14. 14.

      Major Major Major Major

      May 4, 2023 at 12:30 am

      Shocking.

      Reply
    15. 15.

      NotMax

      May 4, 2023 at 12:31 am

      Unhappy meals.

      More than 300 children, including two 10-year-olds, were found working at McDonald’s restaurants across Kentucky and several other states in violation of federal labor laws, the Labor Department said Tuesday.
      [snip]
      Most of the restaurants, 45 of the 62, were in Kentucky, according to data released by the department.

      The two 10-year-olds were among at least 305 children found to have been employed in violation of federal labor laws across 62 McDonald’s locations in Kentucky, Indiana, Maryland and Ohio, operated under three franchisees — Bauer Food LLC, Archways Richwood LLC and Bell Restaurant Group I LLC, the Labor Department said. Source

      Reply
    16. 16.

      Major Major Major Major

      May 4, 2023 at 12:36 am

      Oh, I emailed you AL.

      Reply
    17. 17.

      James E Powell

      May 4, 2023 at 12:43 am

      @Baud:

      I’m not tired of saying Hillary was right about everything.

      Neither am I. At every opportunity, I mention it to every Hillary Hater I know.

      Reply
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      Steeplejack

      May 4, 2023 at 12:52 am

      @mrmoshpotato:

      😹 I was trying unsuccessfully to find that a while ago. Bookmarked for future reference.

      Reply
    19. 19.

      cain

      May 4, 2023 at 1:08 am

      @NotMax: This is the life that these red states want for our children. Working at 10, parents also working, unable to better themselves.

      Reply
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      Alison Rose

      May 4, 2023 at 1:11 am

      @NotMax:

      Bauer Food LLC said the two 10-year-olds alleged to have been employed at the McDonald’s restaurant were children of a night manager who were visiting their parent at work and were not approved by franchisee organization management to be in that part of the restaurant.

      JFC, haul that piece of shit parent in, too. I mean, I could understand if they didn’t have childcare and needed to bring the kids with them, but you let them sit at a table with fries and a coloring book, you don’t fucking throw an apron on them and send them back to man the fryers. Good Lord.

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    21. 21.

      Shalimar

      May 4, 2023 at 1:15 am

      @Carlo Graziani: There wasn’t much of a defense at all.  Just character assassination of the victim.  It’s a civil trial.  I don’t see any path to victory for Trump.  Any member of the jury who tries to argue that it’s more likely than not that it didn’t happen is going to get steamrolled in deliberations.

      Reply
    22. 22.

      mrmoshpotato

      May 4, 2023 at 1:19 am

      @Steeplejack: Glad to unexpectedly help!

      Reply
    23. 23.

      NotMax

      May 4, 2023 at 1:47 am

      @Alison Rose

      IANAL but there’s got to be some type of stipulation(s) within the franchisee contract which would trigger an investigation by McD’s HQ and could result in suspension or cancellation of the franchise agreement.

      Reply
    24. 24.

      Alison Rose

      May 4, 2023 at 2:10 am

      @NotMax: Well, neither the McDonalds corporation nor most of the franchisees are exactly known for giving two shits about the law. Although maybe in this case, the suits will want to look like they’re actually taking this seriously.

      Reply
    25. 25.

      john (not mccain)

      May 4, 2023 at 2:11 am

      @NotMax:

      So it turns out Ronald McDonald is Pennywise. I am unsurprised.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      NotMax

      May 4, 2023 at 2:42 am

      @john (not mccain)

      Well, look who he hangs out with.

      A burglar and a cheesy politician who shows his buns in public.
      ;)

      Reply
    27. 27.

      john (not mccain)

      May 4, 2023 at 2:47 am

      @NotMax:

      The very last McDonald’s commercial ever will reveal that Happy Meals are made of processed and reconstituted children.

      Reply
    28. 28.

      NotMax

      May 4, 2023 at 2:52 am

      @john (not mccain)

      The all-new McRib.

      Now with 10% real rib!

      Reply
    29. 29.

      opiejeanne

      May 4, 2023 at 3:04 am

      @NotMax: You two are getting pretty gruesome.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      john (not mccain)

      May 4, 2023 at 3:07 am

      @NotMax:

      The thing that is just amazing about this story is how many people must’ve known. Not just the parents, but other employees and surely some customers had to have seen. Did the kids never go to school? Did their teachers never wonder why they were so greasy and sleepy?

      Reply
    31. 31.

      Kathleen

      May 4, 2023 at 3:22 am

      I read “State of Terror”, which Hillary and Louise Penny co-wrote. The plot line was terrifying and I keep thinking she used the plot line of the book to relay a message.

      Reply
    32. 32.

      Chris T.

      May 4, 2023 at 4:11 am

      Wait… I thought the MAGAts were pro Nazi…?

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Tony Jay

      May 4, 2023 at 4:46 am

      @Chris T.:

      They’re pro the tenets and general theme of Nazism (🎶all the boys in black, looking whack, giving the Jews and the Blacks and the Liberals a smack🎶) but throwing it as an insult at someone who is, at that moment, situationally ‘On The Left’ (like, say, a Capitol Police officer trying to stop you invading the Capitol building and staging a bloody coup on behalf of the Leader of your neo-Nazi movement) is acceptable because ‘They’ will be insulted by it and will, therefore, be either ‘owned’ or ‘pwned’, whichever suits.

      They so smart, you see? They haz licence to play with the rulez.

      Reply
    34. 34.

      Quinerly

      May 4, 2023 at 5:14 am

      What we have known for years.

      https://newrepublic.com/article/172324/its-settled-reagan-campaign-delayed-release-iranian-hostages

      Reply
    35. 35.

      lowtechcyclist

      May 4, 2023 at 5:48 am

      @Baud: ​
       

      I’m not tired of saying Hillary was right about everything

      I will continue to remind people that she was wrong about Henry Kissinger.

      Reply
    36. 36.

      satby

      May 4, 2023 at 5:56 am

      @john (not mccain): A parent was working there at the time. And I bet it was a set up the get that parent into trouble, like an angry ex-spouse in a custody dispute or hostile coworker, because who would look at a McDonald’s at 2 am for child laborers without a tip off?

      My kids came to work with me often when they were young. At the doctor’s office, parents often had to bring their kids in to sit in the break room during their shifts when childcare falls through. Poor people have to work or miss a days pay. Do they skip work and hope to muddle through, or bring the kids and hope they can all get through the shift? The choices usually suck, and though I don’t condone this parent’s decision, I can sure relate to how it was made. The kids were probably given something to do to try to keep them busy until the parent was done working. And now that parent will probably end up losing their job and custody of the kids.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      lowtechcyclist

      May 4, 2023 at 6:00 am

      @Alison Rose: ​
       

      That “visiting their parent at work” bullshit has already been exposed as such:

      Investigators also determined two of the minors were unpaid 10-year-old children who sometimes worked as late as 2 a.m.
      The 10-year-olds prepared and distributed food orders, cleaned the store, worked at the drive-thru window and operated a register. One child was allowed to operate a deep fryer, which is prohibited for workers under 16 years old.

      They did one hell of a lot of work for just a brief ‘visit,’ not to mention the part about being 6 years too young to legally operate the deep fryer but doing it anyway.

      I guess the ‘unpaid’ part is consistent with the ‘visit’ part, but that’s about it. Still, yeah, haul the parent in, as well as the franchise operator, who should be forced to sell their franchises and be banned from operating fast food restaurants ever again.

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    38. 38.

      satby

      May 4, 2023 at 6:18 am

      @lowtechcyclist: ok, that changes the story quite a bit and renders my entire statement invalid for this situation.

      Edit: but I have to wonder about the families circumstances: poor? Undocumented? The food industry is rife with exploitation of undocumented workers.

      Reply
    39. 39.

      Geminid

      May 4, 2023 at 6:36 am

      Congressman David Trone has announced his candidacy for the Maryland Senate seat held by the retiring Senato Ben Cardin. Trone has represented the 6th CD covering western Maryland.since 2018.

      Reply
    40. 40.

      EmbraceYourInnerCrone

      May 4, 2023 at 6:54 am

      @rikyrah: me too, also I would buy all that merch. I saw her on the Graham Norton show a while back an she was having a pretty good time laughing at Trump with the host.

      Reply
    41. 41.

      EmbraceYourInnerCrone

      May 4, 2023 at 7:07 am

      @mrmoshpotato: thank for posting this. I had a copy when I first saw it online years ago but lost track of it.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      trnc

      May 4, 2023 at 7:08 am

      @Carlo Graziani: putting a big “RAPIST” tattoo on Trump’s forehead would up the stakes a bit

      Where is Lisbeth Salander when we need her?

      Reply
    43. 43.

      Frankensteinbeck

      May 4, 2023 at 7:30 am

      @Chris T.:

      They are really, really fucking pissed that saying the awful things they think and doing the awful things they want to do gets them publicly shamed.  That resentment leads to an obsessive need to attach every culturally agreed shame word on their enemies.  Their obsession with ‘pedophile’, for example.  It’s the worst label you can stick on someone in our society.  It also leads to their love of Trump, who says and does it all and somehow gets away with it.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      Dorothy A. Winsor

      May 4, 2023 at 7:38 am

      Raw Story says Harlan Crow paid the tuition for a child that Clarence Thomas had in private school

      Reply
    45. 45.

      O. Felix Culpa

      May 4, 2023 at 7:49 am

      @Dorothy A. Winsor:

      Wow. Thomas is not at all bought and paid for. I wonder at what point (if ever) Roberts breaks for the shame Thomas has brought upon the SC. Not the corruption of course, just the way it’s all become public.

      Reply
    46. 46.

      satby

      May 4, 2023 at 7:55 am

      @Dorothy A. Winsor: @O. Felix Culpa: Lots of Thomas leaks in a fairly short time considering how long this corruption has gone on. Wonder who’s gunning for him on his side (because our side wouldn’t have held in to this knowledge for so long). 

      Reply
    47. 47.

      Another Scott

      May 4, 2023 at 7:57 am

      @satby: Good reminder that “there’s more to the story”.

      I suspect that the store was understaffed, maybe on purpose to “keep costs down”, maybe because they couldn’t find people because they didn’t pay enough, so the people working there had to find a way to make it work so that they could get home at an acceptable hour to live the rest of their lives.

      Ultimately, it’s the management, the franchise owner, and McDonald’s corporate that are responsible and they should suffer the consequences.

      Thanks.

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    48. 48.

      O. Felix Culpa

      May 4, 2023 at 8:07 am

      @satby: Good point. One does wonder why now and who’s behind the sudden flow of leaks.

      Reply
    49. 49.

      Kay

      May 4, 2023 at 8:13 am

      The whistleblower is named in the ProPublica story:

      Tuition at the boarding school ran more than $6,000 a month. But Thomas did not cover the bill. A bank statement for the school from July 2009, buried in unrelated court filings, shows the source of Martin’s tuition payment for that month: the company of billionaire real estate magnate Harlan Crow.
      The payments extended beyond that month, according to Christopher Grimwood, a former administrator at the school. Crow paid Martin’s tuition the entire time he was a student there, which was about a year, Grimwood told ProPublica.
      “Harlan picked up the tab,” said Grimwood, who got to know Crow and the Thomases and had access to school financial information through his work as an administrator.

      The “unrelated filing” is a bankruptcy petition- Crow paid for two schools and one of them went bankrupt.

      Reply
    50. 50.

      Chris Johnson

      May 4, 2023 at 8:14 am

      Power struggle between fascist Republicans who are not on the side of Putin, and fascist Republicans who ARE on the side of (or in employ of) Putin. Pretty sure that’s what’s going down at Fox: Tucker was Putin’s personal guy (is), and Murdoch thinks he is bigger than Putin and doesn’t have to put up with fake hype that tries to position Tucker as a messiah, for eventual use in political office.

      Murdoch said ‘that’s a big nope’, most likely for purely selfish ego reasons, not because he had any big problem with the situation.

      I’m not sure where Clarence Thomas and his owner fit in, other than his owner really likes dictators, and Putin fits in that model quite neatly.

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    51. 51.

      Anne Laurie

      May 4, 2023 at 8:23 am

      @satby: Lots of Thomas leaks in a fairly short time considering how long this corruption has gone on. Wonder who’s gunning for him on his side (because our side wouldn’t have held in to this knowledge for so long).

      Cynic that I am, I’ve been assuming the Federalist Society / SC(R)OTUS cabal thinks throwing the Black guy over the side is the easiest way to distract attention from the rest of them.

      It’s not as though Clarence has a vocal fan club, and once he’s forceably ‘retire’, he’ll have that much more time to help Ginni with her little hobby clubs attempting to destroy our democracy.

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    52. 52.

      Kay

      May 4, 2023 at 8:25 am

      Thomas’ spokesperosn has responded. I figured they would use “dependent child” but all using this definition as an excuse does it raise more questions- I have two immediately- did Thomas claim him as a tax dependent and did they put him on Clarence Thomas’ government health insurance?

      Now they’ll have a situation where they claimed him as a dependent child for all purposes except a disclosure form.

      Harlan Crow’s tuition payments made directly to these schools on behalf of Justice Thomas’s great nephew did not constitute a reportable gift. Justice Thomas was not required to disclose the tuition payments made directly to Randolph Macon and the Georgia school on behalf of his great nephew because the definition of a “dependent child” under the Ethics in Government Act (5 U.S.C. 13101 (2)) does not include a “great nephew.” It is limited to a “son, daughter, stepson or stepdaughter.” Justice Thomas never asked Harlan Crow to pay for his great nephew’s tuition. And neither Harlan Crow, nor his company, had any business before the Supreme Court.

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    53. 53.

      satby

      May 4, 2023 at 8:26 am

      @Kay: ok, a whistleblower for the school tuition from almost 15 years ago. My question still stands, who’s burning him now? Because they all didn’t just have an epiphany on the corruption they’ve been abetting for decades. Thomas became expendable; the steady dribbling out of these stories eventually will make the rest of them force him out to try to protect themselves from further scrutiny. And it probably won’t because now there’s blood in the water.

      Reply
    54. 54.

      satby

      May 4, 2023 at 8:28 am

      @Anne Laurie: we match in our cynicism 😉

      Reply
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      Kay

      May 4, 2023 at 8:31 am

      @satby:

      Maybe. I just think ProPublica had the first story so anyone who has anything else goes to them with it:

      Grimwood had multiple roles on the campus, including overseeing an affiliated wilderness program. He said he was speaking about the payments because he felt the public should know about outside financial support for Supreme Court justices.

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    56. 56.

      Kay

      May 4, 2023 at 8:34 am

      because the definition of a “dependent child” under the Ethics in Government Act (5 U.S.C. 13101 (2)) does not include a “great nephew.” It is limited to a “son, daughter, stepson or stepdaughter.”

      This is wrong too. “Thomas the textualist” left out some text. There’s an “and” that includes the definition of dependent under the tax code. Thomas was the child’s legal guardian so that would fit.

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    57. 57.

      satby

      May 4, 2023 at 8:45 am

      @Kay: Unless Mr. Grimwood is retired he just torched his own career too,  because expensive private schools are very strict about disclosing info on students or parents. He’s never going to get another job in that field, and may be in violation of an employment NDA.  If he thought “people should know” he sure came to that conclusion well after the fact. Wonder who helped him see the light 😉

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    58. 58.

      Matt McIrvin

      May 4, 2023 at 8:53 am

      @lowtechcyclist: She was wrong about a lot of things, particularly before the 2016 election cycle, but she wasn’t wrong about the things being referenced here.

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      O. Felix Culpa

      May 4, 2023 at 8:56 am

      @satby: I wonder if Ginni’s activities might also play a role in the possible decision to tank Thomas. Not that the powers-that-be/puppeteers disagree with them, but further disclosure is potentially harmful to their cause. The couple may have been just a little too crass in their behavior.

      I have zero facts to support this notion, but it’s irresponsible not to speculate.

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    60. 60.

      The Thin Black Duke

      May 4, 2023 at 8:59 am

      @O. Felix Culpa: As tempting as it is to speculate that Thomas will be thrown under the bus, I’m afraid the only way that bitter old house negro will leave the Supreme Court will be feet first.

      Reply
    61. 61.

      BellyCat

      May 4, 2023 at 9:08 am

      @satby: My read as well. :-( Kids are powerful levers to be worked by bad faith adults.

      Reply
    62. 62.

      Paul in KY

      May 4, 2023 at 9:27 am

      @Baud: Because it’s true!!!

      Reply
    63. 63.

      Anyway

      May 4, 2023 at 9:27 am

      @Chris Johnson:

      Power struggle between fascist Republicans who are not on the side of Putin, and fascist Republicans who ARE on the side of (or in employ of) Putin. Pretty sure that’s what’s going down at Fox: Tucker was Putin’s personal guy (is), and Murdoch thinks he is bigger than Putin and doesn’t have to put up with fake hype that tries to position Tucker as a messiah, for eventual use in political office.

      Total pure speculation here – ISTR that Rupert’s second (?) wife Wendi Deng hooked up with Putin at the end of their marriage… Tucker was too aligned with PootiePoot and pissed off Rupert.

      My WAG for the day …

      Reply
    64. 64.

      Paul in KY

      May 4, 2023 at 9:27 am

      @Alison Rose: With ‘fuck you you fucking fucks’ right after that.

      Reply
    65. 65.

      Paul in KY

      May 4, 2023 at 9:28 am

      @Alison Rose: If it really could happen, I would prefer a brand.

      Reply
    66. 66.

      Paul in KY

      May 4, 2023 at 9:30 am

      @NotMax: Yeehaw! You don’t think them thar chicken nuggets get stuffed by big ole adult hands do yer?

      Reply
    67. 67.

      NotMax

      May 4, 2023 at 9:40 am

      @Paul in KY

      “Least ways they’re not hangin’ out til 2 a.m. at goldang drag shows, knockin’ back them Shirley Temples.”
      //

      Reply
    68. 68.

      Chief Oshkosh

      May 4, 2023 at 9:44 am

      @Quinerly: I was going to write, “It’s a pity that they published it in TNR instead of …,” but sadly, I can’t think of another publication that is widely read that has any credibility. Maybe WaPo, but I guess it doesn’t matter.

      So, for those of us keeping score:

      Nixon

      Reagan

      GHW Bush

      GW Bush

      Trump

      There hasn’t been a Republican president who was elected honestly and without (non-technical) treason since Ike. That’s a substantial portion (literally, 33%) of the entire existence of that party.

      Reply
    69. 69.

      evodevo

      May 4, 2023 at 9:50 am

      @john (not mccain): they were the night manager’s kids?  Well, I am wondering about his side of the story…is he a single parent who couldn’t find childcare?  Was this just a few times or a lot?  given how poorly MickyD pays “salaried” managers, he probably doesn’t make much…

      OR what Satby said…

      Reply
    70. 70.

      Paul in KY

      May 4, 2023 at 9:58 am

      @Quinerly: What a POS! Traitor to those poor hostages.

      Reply
    71. 71.

      Paul in KY

      May 4, 2023 at 10:02 am

      @NotMax: Damn straight!!! They is larnin a trade, I have you know!

      Reply

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