Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

One way or another, he’s a liar.

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

Fight for a just cause, love your fellow man, live a good life.

We know you aren’t a Democrat but since you seem confused let me help you.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

It’s a good piece. click on over. but then come back!!

The unpunished coup was a training exercise.

Mediocre white men think RFK Jr’s pathetic midlife crisis is inspirational. The bar is set so low for them, it’s subterranean.

The desire to stay informed is directly at odds with the need to not be constantly enraged.

I like political parties that aren’t owned by foreign adversaries.

“But what about the lurkers?”

Human rights are not a matter of opinion!

It’s pointless to bring up problems that can only be solved with a time machine.

Is trump is trying to break black America over his knee? signs point to ‘yes’.

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

Fight them, without becoming them!

There are consequences to being an arrogant, sullen prick.

… gradually, and then suddenly.

The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

The Giant Orange Man Baby is having a bad day.

Trumpflation is an intolerable hardship for every American, and it’s Trump’s fault.

This country desperately needs a functioning fourth estate.

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The NYTimes, in full white gloves & silver platter mode, serving as media butler for Rupert Murdoch:

… The text message came to the attention of Fox’s board of directors and even some senior executives only last month, on the Sunday before the trial was set to begin, according to two people with knowledge of Fox’s internal deliberations. At the time, Fox’s negotiators were entering discussions about an out-of-court settlement ahead of the swearing in of what was shaping up to be a diverse jury.

The next day, the board told Fox’s leadership about its plan to have the law firm Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen and Katz investigate Mr. Carlson. That disclosure set up the possibility that there could be a continuing investigation into what was behind Mr. Carlson’s messages at the same time as a trial, and as he was serving as its top host in prime time.

Fox has not commented about Mr. Carlson’s ouster last week beyond an initial statement announcing that they “agreed to part ways” and thanking “him for his service.” It did not respond to a request for comment on Tuesday on the contents of Mr. Carlson’s redacted message…


(For those who can’t read the embed: January 7, 2021)


Cathy Young, of all people:

… To the people making such arguments, I’d offer this question: If someone sent you a gift box containing a couple of dead and decomposing rats, a dozen live cockroaches and a large glop of excrement, would you be pointing out that the sender also threw in a nice bottle of wine and a box of your favorite chocolates? Even if you love the chocolates Tucker throws in with all that other stuff, it’s just not worth it.

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  1. 1.

    Suzanne

    How do white men fight? I think of that scene in Bridget Jones’ Diary, with Colin Firth and Hugh Grant beating the shit out of each other with their briefcases. You know. Honorably.

  2. 2.

    Citizen Alan

    We really do need to give more consideration to the idea that white supremacy is common place even among supposedly liberal media outlets. Their support for Fox News and Trumpism permits no other reasonable explanation.

  3. 3.

    lollipopguild

    It only took them well over a year to get to “the” memo. No one at fox was paying attention to Tucker. The lights are on but no one is home(management). Not the best way to run a railroad/Nazi propaganda machine.

  4. 4.

    Suzanne

    Oh, and irony: yesterday, I commented about how I had some canned pumpkin that was going to expire before the fall, and asked in anyone had any recipe suggestions. I noted that I usually use them to make pumpkin cake and bread, but that I was looking for something more nutritious and less treat-ful. So I made a crockpot of pumpkin oatmeal, which smelled great. And then my husband and kids asked me to make them some pumpkin bread.

    So. Pumpkin bread it is.

  5. 5.

    Citizen Alan

    @Suzanne:

    “How do white men fight?” So much of the hostility towards “wokeness” is about preserving the myth that, historically, white men have only defended themselves and their families honorably against black and brown savages and the Yankess/Communists/Progressives who enable them and were not actually the sort of people who bring picnic lunches to lynchings.

  6. 6.

    schrodingers_cat

    I don’t buy this story. Vichy Times is trying to make their sister news organization look good.  Tucker Carlson has said far worse things on air than that text.

  8. 8.

    schrodingers_cat

    @Citizen Alan: I speak English because white men came to our shores  (India) as traders in Elizabethan times and centuries later proceeded to loot  (a word in both Hindi and Marathi) and plunder the land that welcomed them.

  9. 9.

    Suzanne

    @Citizen Alan: Apparently, modern white men fight with tiki torches from the garden section of Home Depot and fashy haircuts from GreatClips. You know. Honorably.

  11. 11.

    West of the Rockies

    Hmmm… it sure took quite a while before that teenie-weenie empathy alarm buzzed softly in Tucky’s hateful brain.

  12. 12.

    Anne Laurie

    @schrodingers_cat: I don’t buy this story. Vichy Times is trying to make their sister news organization look good. Tucker Carlson has said far worse things on air than that text.

    The NYTimes, whose corner office supports Rupert Murdoch because of course they do, is probably planning a series of increasingly incriminating articles on the theme of Tucker Carlson — Now That He’s Gone, Fox News Is *Totally* Respectable. (Or is that Reprehensible? We Always Get Those Two Confused.)

  15. 15.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    BREAKING: a New York judge threw out Donald Trump's lawsuit against the New York Times and his niece, Mary Trump, and ordered the former guy to pay all attorneys fees, legal expenses, and “associated costs.”So. Much. Losing. pic.twitter.com/0gz5oSZFxT

    — Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) May 3, 2023

  16. 16.

    Suzanne

    @Anne Laurie: The problem with noting that Tucker says shitty stuff and has for years is that it matters who he says shitty stuff about. Murdoch only minded when he shit-talked his boss and colleagues and Trump. He didn’t piss outside the tent.

  18. 18.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    No way Fucker got fired for being racist. Being racist is a prerequisite for employment at Foxxx.

  20. 20.

    docNC

    @raven: Damn straight.  He has no idea how anyone fights.  That’s obvious.

    3 to 1 is not a fight.  It’s an attack.

  21. 21.

    Anne Laurie

    @raven: That punk-ass motherfucker was never in a fight in his life.

    He claims he ran in a gang, back in his prep school days, ‘to beat up on homosexuals’.  No self-respecting prep school gang would actually let Tucker join, but I can see him permitted — or at least imagining himself permitted — to hang around on the edge of the locker-room bullying, squealing in his high-pitched voice for the thugs to hit ’em harder, oooh!

  22. 22.

    Steeplejack

    Nothing I’ve seen leaked so far strikes me as the real reason Tucker Carlson got fired.

    — Molly Jong-Fast (@MollyJongFast) May 3, 2023

    I agree. All of this stuff, as bad as it is, is being leaked or hyped by the suits at Fox. There must be much more, and much worse, that hasn’t been seen yet.

  23. 23.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    $787,000,000 dollars here, $787,000,000 there and pretty soon you’re talking real money

  30. 30.

    Ruckus

    @West of the Rockies:

    That wasn’t an empathy alarm, that was looking at the cold facts that it may actually be getting a bit less accepted to be as big and open racist fuck as fucker carlson. And no I don’t believe that either fucker c or rupert are worth their weight in dog poop, although there really isn’t any better measure.

  32. 32.

    Steeplejack

    @Quinerly:

    They should have leaned into it and told the haters to fuck off (in polite corporate terms, of course). Probably would have triggered libtard backlash sales.

  33. 33.

    gene108

    @Ruckus:

    I think Rupert fired Tucker because (1) the boss wanted to flex and remind people who’s in charge, and (2) getting rid of one of the biggest proponents of the 2020 election lies might help Fox News in their remaining lawsuits.

  34. 34.

    different-church-lady

    f someone sent you a gift box containing a couple of dead and decomposing rats, a dozen live cockroaches and a large glop of excrement, would you be pointing out that the sender also threw in a nice bottle of wine and a box of your favorite chocolates?

    He didn’t even throw in the wine an chocolates. He just said, “I should be bothered that I put that horrible stuff in a box and sent it to you.”

  35. 35.

    Roberto el oso

    As noted several times already, Carlson has freely admitted (in that vague this-sounds-like-a-made-up-story way) to being into gay-bashing when he was younger, which always involved the ratios of several against one. His shtick has always been like an elaborate extension of Nixon on the Watergate tapes, where Tricky D says (paraphrased) “we could commit Crime 1, Crime 2, Crime 3 …. [pause as he remembers the tape is running] … but that would be wrong.”

  37. 37.

    Narya

    @Suzanne: wish I’d seen your question; I make a carrot cake that uses pumpkin. Also I ignore nearly all expiration dates.

  38. 38.

    different-church-lady

    When we get right down to it, Tucker is lucky that Howard Beal’s fate was fictional.

  39. 39.

    Jackie

    @Steeplejack:  “I agree. All of this stuff, as bad as it is, is being leaked or hyped by the suits at Fox. There must be much more, and much worse, that hasn’t been seen yet.”

    Yet.

  40. 40.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Quinerly:

    I think it’s very sad this has happened to Budweiser. It gives conservative dickheads ammunition with “Go woke, go broke” BS

  41. 41.

    different-church-lady

    Thank goodness for open threads: what is the name for that blue paste they put on tiny screws to keep them from unscrewing?

  42. 42.

    trollhattan

    Fingers crossed they have the actual stabby motherfucker.

    Police on Wednesday afternoon were questioning a “person of interest” as part of the investigation into three recent stabbings in Davis that killed two men and seriously wounded a woman.

    Officers detained the person who was spotted near Colby Drive and Pine Lane, about a block west of Sycamore Park where a UC Davis student was stabbed to death Saturday night as he was walking home. Lt. Dan Beckwith, a spokesman for the Davis Police Department, said the “person of interest” was not detained and voluntarily went with officers down to police headquarters for questioning.

    Beckwith said the department was taking the “standard investigative steps,” and this person had not been linked to any of the stabbings. He said the department has taken in multiple “persons of interest” for questioning in this investigation since Sunday.

    sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article275041791.html#storylink=cpy

  44. 44.

    trollhattan

    @different-church-lady: ​
    Loctite. Note there are different strengths, some meant to be unscrewed later and some meant to require a fookin’ NFL lineman to undo. The color is the key.

  45. 45.

    SpaceUnit

    Yeah, nazi skinheads always adhere to Marquess of Queensberry rules.

     

    And by yeah I mean no.

  46. 46.

    different-church-lady

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Her big miss was I don’t think she understood who the core Bud Light shopper was.

    No, her big miss was not understanding who was never going to drink Bud Light under any circumstance.

  47. 47.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @different-church-lady:

    Sorry I changed that. I was worried I was going to run afoul of copyright by blockquoting too much of the article, decided to retool the comment

    If anyone’s interested, here’s the article that quote is from

  50. 50.

    Jackie

    Sadly, who’s surprised?😞😡

    ”An unknown person attempted to send armed tactical teams to the Missoula home of MontanaRep. Zooey Zephyr hours after her girlfriend, Erin Reed, a prominent transgender activist and journalist, was the target of a SWATting attempt in Maryland.

    Reed said Tuesday morning that somebody tried to send officers into her home, but because she had reached out to her local police department months ago anticipating such an event, officials called her first and then sent a patrol car to conduct a wellness check rather than sending in a heavily armed SWAT team.”

    advocate.com/crime/zooey-zephyr

  51. 51.

    RaflW

    Even Tucker’s line “Much as I’m sure I’d hate him personally if I knew him” describes a basically awful, insufferable, terrible person. He seems to relish the notion of just instantly hating someone he’s never met. That’s really shitty.

  52. 52.

    eversor

    Tucker has never been in an actual brawl.   Because as anyone who’s been in a brawl ever before knows the way it works is your side gets people from the other side onto the ground and then pummels them until they quit moving.  It’s brutal.

    White men beat white people like that.  White women beat white people like that.  That’s how street fights go down.  The notion of an honor code in a street fight or when you jump/get jumped is fucking insane.

  53. 53.

    TriassicSands

    @lollipopguild:

    Oh, they were paying attention to Tucker, just not what a fascist he is. They had their eyes on his ratings. That was all that mattered until Fox News got sued by Dominion and every employee was under scrutiny.

    Suddenly, their infatuation with Tucker vanished. Now, instead of attracting a large viewing audience and lots of (sometimes iffy revenue because of boycotts), Carlson was clearly a liability.

    It’s all pretty ironic since Tucker Carlson is such a perfect representation of all that Fox News is and isn’t.

    Once again, private communications surface to bite the ass that poops them.

  54. 54.

    Gvg

    @Suzanne: every way they’re in reality. But he is a racist, talking to other racists.

    He is just saying that for his the not quite natzis and authorities who are too busy. It’s an alibi sort of. It’s meant to confuse the mushy minded middle. White people who aren’t vicious, but just assume most people mean well and don’t have a seething hell inside them disguised by an outer form that looks like their neighbors.

  55. 55.

    Lyrebird

    @schrodingers_cat: Tucker Carlson has said far worse things on air than that text.

     

    @David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: No way Fucker got fired for being racist.

    They certainly paid him big bucks to spew racism live all the time.  But.  If the text in question really does refer to that young man in a Charlottesville garage who was beaten nearly to death, I don’t know if it would count as specific incitement that could get them in more legal trouble.

    I have no idea, and I can easily believe they are just tossing scandal bait out to distract us all.  In honor of that young man, who iiuc is tsill recovering from his injuries, I just want to be sure people get the full horror of that particular tweet.  It’s not just TCs usual derisive white nationalist claptrap, it’s multiplied.

  56. 56.

    SpaceUnit

    @eversor:

    Also, we’ve got a couple hundred hours of video footage from the Capitol Building Riots that show us exactly how white men fight.

  57. 57.

    Tony G

    I would be astonished if Tucker Carlson has ever been in a fist fight in his life.  He strikes me as someone who is a physical coward, in addition to all of his other despicable attributes.  Like that other guy (Donald Trump) the success of Tucker is an example of how any white man, no matter how repulsive, can become a hero to tens of millions of white men as long as he hates the right people.

  58. 58.

    Jay

    @different-church-lady:

    Locktite Threadlocker, comes in white, green, blue and red. Available in liquid or gel pens, ranges from mild to permalock, ( need a torch or brake cleaner and time, to release it).

  59. 59.

    TriassicSands

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:

    Poor widdle Donnie, he’s on a real losing streak. His only hope may be 2024.

    He’s probably facing a real crisis. How is it that the legal system that he has always relied on is now turning on him? Why are his bogus claims suddenly being rejected? Can’t everyone see that he is the greatest victim in human history and the subject of an endless witch hunt? What is wrong with everyone?

    (Giggle.)

  60. 60.

    Tony G

    @Jackie: This is the primary — maybe the only — accomplishment of the internet — making it easy for the worst people in the world to threaten and harm other people while sitting on a couch and eating Cheetos.

  61. 61.

    bcw

    For once Politico may have it right: they say Tucker was fired to distract everyone from the actual Dominion and Smartmatic cases.  And it’s working. Let’s focus, folks.

  62. 62.

    Gvg

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): the drivers being attacked does seem like more than they planned on. I can see them wanting to make it up to them without the actual promotion being wrong. They need to get the attackers charged.

  64. 64.

    eversor

    @docNC:

    Nah three on one is a fight it’s just a rigged one.   That’s the problem with fights unless there is a ref and some preset rules. It’s anything goes and the goal is to maim the other person.  That’s why people steer clear of them.  It’s also why when people see a little woman being beat down on the METRO or subway people steer clear of them and the victim suffers.  Or people don’t intervene in stabbings on public transit.

    Any “street fight” (and I’m lobbing anything not in a ring into this) rapidly turns into someone on the ground getting kicked, punched, or worse as rapidly as possible till they go limp.  It’s usually over fast and then everyone who can runs.

    Tucker of course has never been in an actual fight.  The closest he ever got was probably yelling “hit him” as someone too weak to defend themselves had a ring form around him at prep school and the bully socked them in their face a few times.  Which is not how actual fights go down.

  65. 65.

    TriassicSands

    Just for the record, the white men that Carlson is referencing, fight with high priced lawyers, a rigged court system, and the history of this country. It was all set up for them and it’s been working for more than two centuries despite a Civil War, sometimes important legislation, and, to a limited degree, changes in the sensibilities and perceptions of Americans.

    Tucker’s white men don’t have to resort to street brawls, they win in the courts, in Congress, and often on election day by rallying many of the street brawlers to come to their aid and save America for white people.

  68. 68.

    gene108

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    I just don’t see liberals rage buying beer to support a promotion with a transgender person or rage buying consumer products. Liberals would buy products if they felt it supported a good cause or a company that shared their values.

    Liberals will rage donate to people running for office against despised Republicans. Some GoFundMe campaigns go viral and spark some liberal anger over an injustice.

    Otherwise liberals don’t seem to be moved by anger to support something.

  69. 69.

    SpaceUnit

    I have a question for the BJ pedants (in other words all of you).  Is it proper to capitalize Capitol Building Riots the way we would The American Civil War or other historical events?  Asking for a friend.

     

    And by friend I really mean myself.

  70. 70.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @docNC: ​
      Hell, even a schoolboy fight is provoked by some bully by some bully who thinks it’s fun to pick on the smaller kid, the new kid, or the kid who carries his violin to school. Or some combination of the aforementioned. The provocation goes on until the bullied kid either fights back or breaks down. Oddly enough, the bullied kid doesn’t have to win the fight. They just have to make it clear that bullying them will hurt. The bully then moves on to someone else because, at least in the ’70s, the school administration didn’t give a fuck. Hmmmm… It turns out I still have some feelings about Newtown Middle School. Anyway, my point was even school boy fights between white boys in Fairfield County aren’t fought under Marquess of Queensbury Rules.

  71. 71.

    Ohio Mom

    @TriassicSands: Trump is always in court about something. From Wikipedia : “From the 1980s until he was elected president in 2016, Donald Trump and his businesses were involved in over 4,000 legal cases in U.S. federal and state courts, including battles with casino patrons, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes.”

    Now I didn’t spend any time looking for how these thousands of cases shook out but he sure didn’t win all or even most of them. He just considers ending up in court the cost of doing business, or at least the cost of going business his way.

    What’s different now is the publicity. EVERYONE knows he’s in court now and how the cases are progressing.

  72. 72.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @gene108:

    That’s a good answer, and sadly makes sense. Do you think the bad sales for Bud can be partially attributed to left-leaning people avoiding the brand, though, given A-H being wishy-washy?

  73. 73.

    Ruckus

    @gene108:

    Likely as good a reason as any other I’ve heard. Some of what fucker c has been saying cost ole ruppie over 3/4 of a billion and as money going in rather than going out is ruppie’s happy place he may have figured that it’s finally time to at least appear to be an actual human being. I’d bet no one is buying it but still ruppie found himself a scape goat. And saved himself some money in the long run. It can’t have been easy for him to sign that over 3/4 of a billion dollar check.

  76. 76.

    Ohio Mom

    @SpaceUnit: Haven’t a clue. You could try googling newspaper articles and see how they treat those words. They will certainly capitalize Capitol but whether they use riot, attack, uprising or another word, and whether they capitalize it…

  77. 77.

    TriassicSands

    @Anne Laurie: The NYTimes, whose corner office supports Rupert Murdoch because of course they do…

    The Times, which I won’t defend at all on this subject, may have a deeper institutional reason to “support” Murdoch and Fox. Court decisions against media outlets could, in the eyes of Times executives, threaten them as well by leading to legislation that, as is often the case, overreacts or is poorly written.

    For obvious reasons, they don’t want restrictions on what they can write and publish (even when it is bothsiderist, false equivalence crap). They probably breathed a sigh of relief when the trial was canceled because it threatened by extension to taint all news organizations.

    I don’t agree, but I wonder if that isn’t at least a part of what is going on. But only a part, since, with the Dominion case resolved, there is absolutely no reason to write and publish a single word that in any way helps, praises, or excuses Murdoch and Fox News. The fact that they provided a platform for the likes of Carlson (and all the people still working at Fox News) says all that needs to be said about them. After all, they only fired Carlson when the rest of the world found out just how depraved his is* — I have no doubt that Fox knew it all along.

    *Although that was hardly a secret. As was pointed out above, Carlson said on the air many things that were as bad or even worse than what the private communications revealed.

  78. 78.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Quinerly:

    It’s a good article. From my skim reading, it sounds like Walker’s goose is cooked. They have the emails that Campaign Finance experts say are strong evidence that Walker had knowledge of wrongdoing, the very least of which is wire fraud

  80. 80.

    TriassicSands

    @Ohio Mom:

    I don’t disagree, but now he’s losing consistently on more and more important issues. And the light at the end of some of these court cases could, for the first time, be a fluorescent light on the ceiling of a prison cell. (I’m assuming most prisons haven’t upgraded to LEDs and the bare incandescent bulb is probably a thing of the past.)

    You’re right, now he’s losing publicly and that may energize the cult, but the cult alone isn’t enough to get him a victory in 2024. And each loss must make him less confident about the outcome of the next case.

    A peripheral issue that interests (and horrifies) me is what will happen if he wins in 2024? He will pardon himself for any and all applicable crimes and that will go to the Supreme Court, which will have a chance to deliver the worst purely political decision in the history of the United States — a president can pardon himself and is absolutely above the law. Could they stoop that low? I hope we never have to find out.

  81. 81.

    different-church-lady

    @Ruckus: Occam’s Razor says it was “GET THAT ASSHOLE OUT OF HERE BEFORE HE COSTS ME BILLIONS MORE!”

  82. 82.

    different-church-lady

    @Suzanne: Let’s say there was a new beer made out of human piss.

    If Trump pushed that beer, there’d be millions of conservatives screaming “YEAH!! HUMAN PISS BEER!!! FUCK YEAH, I’M DRINKING THAT!!!”

    If Obama pushed that beer, there’ be a lot of liberals going, “Obama, what the fuck are you doing?”

  84. 84.

    TriassicSands

    @Ruckus: And no I don’t believe that either fucker c or rupert are worth their weight in dog poop, although there really isn’t any better measure.

    Hey, Ruckus, I’m going to have to disagree with you here. There are lots of species’ feces that are far more noxious than that of our canine friends. Therefore, there simply must be a “better measure” of the worth of Carlson and Murdoch than mere dog poop. But I get your point.

    Perhaps you could get a grant to find the absolute worst poop on the planet and, in so doing, discover the true “best measure” of the worth of those fascist cretins. (Note: I won’t be joining you on such a quest, since I’m satisfied that I can imagine a poop worthy of those a-hos without actually encountering it.)

  86. 86.

    coin operated

    @gene108:

    getting rid of one of the biggest proponents of the 2020 election lies might help Fox News in their remaining lawsuits

    IANAL but methinks that firing your top-rated on-air personality *after* agreeing to a $787M settlement will let your opposing counsel squelch that defense after about 15 seconds of redirect.

    *edited for clarity

  88. 88.

    BeautifulPlumage

    @Jackie:  my fictional brewery is Yeast Pee Brewing (beer is the result of yeast eating sugars and ‘discharging’ alcohol)

  91. 91.

    Jay

    @BeautifulPlumage:

    I am Canadian, don’t diss sex in a canoe,

    that’s where the term “thrawrted” comes from,

    and we drink real beer up here.

    But if you want sex in a canoe, it’s white wine, tequila or Black Label.

  92. 92.

    Ruckus

    @TriassicSands:

    To me shit is shit and they both give off the odor in a fairly strong fashion. I’m assuming, because they put so much shit out of their mouths that they are surely going to smell like whatever the worst smelling shit there is.

  93. 93.

    BeautifulPlumage

    @Jay: sex in a canoe = fucking close to water (such as the taste of lite beers is …)

    By no means am I dissing Canadians! Y’all rock!

    ETA: thwarted? Really? Please explain!

  94. 94.

    Ramona

    @schrodingers_cat: in fairness, they first bought from the Mughal emperor the right to collect taxes and then proceeded to torture women by catching their nipples in split bamboo in order to force taxes from the villages before proceeding to plunder and loot.

  96. 96.

    barbequebob

    @Suzanne: Based on a long history of mobs of white men attacking and beating black men, I would argue that it is in fact the way white men fight. With conservatives the truth is always the opposite of what they claim.

  97. 97.

    Chris Johnson

    Tucker vs. Murdoch is purely a power struggle. Tucker is run out of the Kremlin, full stop, and bitterly jealous of Trump who got to play President while Tucker had to content himself with playing a journalist… even though he was MUCH more disciplined, capable and committed than Trump ever was!

    Murdoch happens to think he is rich and powerful and doesn’t have to answer to Putin. Mitch McConnell likewise figured out real quick after Ukraine that he didn’t really have to answer to Putin. It’s been a real wake-up call to fascists who thought they would be forever outclassed by the big bad ex-KGB spook: in particular, Murdoch is inclined to not play along anymore, thinking himself more powerful than an emasculated, sick, old former empire builder. Takes one to know one: Rupert thinks Vlad is past it, and overextended.

    The trick with this ‘text’ from Tucker is that it is a trial balloon. I’m going to suggest this antifa text, wherever it really came from, is a carefully crafted take on the attitude meant to win the Republicans the Presidency, with Tucker in Trump’s place as Russia-directed stooge. The whole thing is a play for ‘fascism but in sorrow rather than anger, so you get to do the fascism and you get to win, but you pretend you still have a soul’. It’s a well designed play. Note that Tucker, in the text, still gets to side with the guys beating up the Antifa kid, but he’s exempt because he claimed a moment of compassion! I would bet money that Tucker emerges as a Presidential candidate. This is why he and Trump hate each other so bad. They’re the same. There is NO reason Russia can’t discard Trump and run with Tucker.

  98. 98.

    Chris Johnson

    Mark my fucking words. Tucker Carlson will run/be run, for President.

  100. 100.

    Paul in KY

    @schrodingers_cat: In hindsight, your country should never have welcomed any English/Europeans. Same for our native Indians.

    You guys might have fended them off. Don’t know about our natives. They might have been able to carve out a homeland, maybe.

  102. 102.

    Paul in KY

    @Quinerly: Hope he goes to prison for it. Will say though that I’m pretty sure TFG has done this, only more elegantly.

    When TFG is more ‘elegant’ than you, you really need to do some deep soul searching, IMO.

  106. 106.

    Paul in KY

    @Baud: ‘Now with more Baud Juice!’ does seem like a bad marketing idea, if you were aiming for the upscale liberal/progressive market…

  107. 107.

    JCNZ

    Terrific Jack Shafer response to this: “Why have so many powerful actors chosen this moment to slag Carlson, when none of the behaviors described clash with the way he’s carried on for years? One possibility is that people who are working for Fox have assembled a PR campaign to discredit the network’s former star that will throw the press pack off doing additional coverage on the Dominion case. It’s like a fighter jet releasing a flare to fool an enemy’s heat-seeking missile. Why theorize in this direction? Because the story that’s currently being put out there just doesn’t add up.” https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/05/03/whats-really-behind-the-release-of-tucker-carlsons-texts-00095182

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