Stand back and stand by, you shitbag fascists. Your sentencing hearing approaches. https://t.co/6oGQ5PYwwP
— David Simon (@AoDespair) May 4, 2023
The legal maximum penalty for either seditious conspiracy or obstruction charges is 20 years in prison.
The verdict concludes the last of three Jan. 6 seditious conspiracy trials, the most high-profile cases from the largest prosecution in U.S. history. https://t.co/oYEFaHFDSv
— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) May 4, 2023
Back in January 2021, Reuters published a comprehensive expose of Tarrio as ‘an informer for federal and local law enforcement going back as far as 2012. No doubt this complicated the current proceedings. Per the Associated Press:
… Tarrio, behind bars since his March 2022 arrest, didn’t appear to show any emotion as the verdict was read. He hugged one of his lawyers and shook the hand of the other before leaving the courtroom. A few of the people sitting among the defendants’ relatives wiped away tears as the verdict was read.
The verdict comes after a trial that took more than twice as long as originally expected, slowed by bickering, mistrial motions and revelations of government informants in the group. Securing the conviction of Tarrio, a high-profile leader who wasn’t at the riot itself, could embolden the Justice Department as a special counsel investigates Trump, including key aspects of the Jan. 6 insurrection…
Tarrio was a top target of what has become the largest Justice Department investigation in American history. He led the neo-fascist group — known for street fights with left-wing activists — when Trump infamously told the Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by” during his first debate with Biden.
Tarrio wasn’t in Washington on Jan. 6, because he had been arrested two days earlier in a separate case and ordered out of the capital city. But prosecutors said he organized and directed the attack by Proud Boys who stormed the Capitol that day…
As Proud Boys swarmed the Capitol, Tarrio cheered them on from afar, writing on social media: “Do what must be done.” In a Proud Boys encrypted group chat later that day someone asked what they should do next. Tarrio responded: “Do it again.”
“Make no mistake,” Tarrio wrote in another message. “We did this.”
Defense lawyers denied there was any plot to attack the Capitol or stop Congress’ certification of Biden’s win. A lawyer for Tarrio sought to push the blame onto Trump, arguing the former president incited the pro-Trump mob’s attack when he urged the crowd near the White House to “fight like hell.”…
You are an informant.
You commit new crimes.
You go to jail. Simple really.
— StewartCortez (@SC0rtez) May 4, 2023
… The five defendants face lengthy potential sentences. The seditious conspiracy and obstruction charges carry 20-year maximum sentences, and prosecutors are sure to seek significant sentencing enhancements that could stretch those sentences far higher than others handed down so far in Jan. 6 cases. The lengthiest Jan. 6 sentence to date — to a retired New York City police officer named Thomas Webster who brutally assaulted a D.C. officer on the front line of the riot — was 10 years. Prosecutors have sought sentences for three defendants — Webster, Patrick McCaughey and Guy Reffitt — of more than 17 years, but so far judges have rejected their harshest recommendations.
But no Jan. 6. defendants convicted of seditious conspiracy have faced sentencing yet. The first clues about what they are likely to face may come Friday, when prosecutors are preparing to recommend a sentence for Stewart Rhodes, the founder and leader of the Oath Keepers. He’s scheduled to be sentenced by U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta on May 25.
The Proud Boys’ sentences will be offset by the fact that all five defendants have spent more than a year in pretrial detention. Nordean, Biggs, Rehl and Pezzola have been jailed since early 2021. Tarrio was arrested and jailed in early 2022. Their pretrial detention is likely to be subtracted from their ultimate sentences…
Trump’s bid to subvert the election occurred in tandem with the Proud Boys’ increasingly strained relationship with police, prosecutors say. The group began to sour on cops after a Dec. 12 pro-Trump rally in Washington, after which four Proud Boys were stabbed by someone the group took to be a member of antifa. Proud Boys leaders believed the police had protected their assailant, who was not arrested or charged. Prosecutors repeatedly showed how the group’s rhetoric toward cops — contained in hundreds of private chats obtained by FBI investigators — grew ominous and angry as Jan. 6 approached.
The stabbing — which nearly killed Proud Boy Jeremy Bertino — also prompted Proud Boys leaders to reconsider their tactics heading into Jan. 6. Tarrio and his allies worried that the group included too many men who were undisciplined and aggressive, willing to provoke violent confrontations. So he formed a new chapter, dubbed the “Ministry of Self-Defense,” meant to include only handpicked members who would follow orders.
Bertino became a central witness for prosecutors. He pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy last year and took the stand to testify that he knew his former Proud Boys allies wanted a “revolution” and had agreed to stop the transfer of power. Though he indicated he didn’t know the specifics of any plan Tarrio might have hatched to accomplish this goal, he testified that the goal was certainly known among the leaders.
A week before Jan. 6, Tarrio received an email from a girlfriend with a document titled “1776 Returns,” which contained an outline of a plan to assemble a large crowd in Washington and storm government buildings. Prosecutors had no evidence that Tarrio shared the proposal with anyone, but they noted that he appeared to reference it in multiple conversations with associates, using the phrase “The Winter Palace,” which the document used as a euphemism for the Capitol — as well as an allusion to the Russian Revolution…
The noose tightens https://t.co/IC9cYs6BSq
— Justice Will Be Done (@GregProops) May 5, 2023
These defense attorneys need to be slapped with rotten fish.
I’m trying to figure out what nutball personality is an FBI informant and then proceeds to commit crimes?
Let’s just say that the FBI has… a checkered history when it comes to criminal informants. As a thousand historians and a million novelists could tell you, it’s all too easy for Law Guys and Crime Guys to form affiliative bonds to the detriment of public order.
TL, DR: Look up ‘Whitey Bulger‘ if you don’t remember those stories…
@rikyrah: Go directly to jail. Do not pass “GO”…
They get puffed up. Full of themselves. Tarrio gets famous. They are Trump’s army.
And never stop to think they are idiots. And it is not 1776. And Trump is a con man.
Their sentences must be long and hard. You don’t get to conspire against your country. And you don’t get to regroup and bounce back.
LOCK THEM UP!!
Oh wait, they already are.
THROW AWAY THE KEY!!!
There we go. :-)
@Anne Laurie: Point well made. But I still have to wonder at the psychology. Someone who thinks they’re clever enough to play all sides against each other. No wonder they idolize TFG.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
I hear informants don’t do so well in lockup🤔
Do not collect 200 Trump steaks.
@Anne Laurie: What is wrong with you? You have a problem with an innocent man dying in prison because the FBI was too attached to their murdering informant?
@RandomMonster: The world is full of dumbass terrible planners that know in their hearts that they are brilliant master manipulators and the most cunning of strategists.
And because they can imagine a scenario where everything comes up dumbass they then operate under the assumption that everything will.
Its very fun to be in planning meetings with them and probably why over the years I developed a somewhat over-tuned reflexive belief that no things won’t work out.
Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnis seems to have gotten out the group in time. At least, he’s not being prosecuted or even called to testify.
I don’t know if this aspect of the E. Jean Carroll case has been discussed. (From ABC):
Betcha he’s not looking forward to cutting that check. ;)
Bruce K in ATH-GR
@sab: …was there supposed to be a sarcasm tag of some sort there?
@Bruce K in ATH-GR: ///
We have not heard the last of Proud Boy Enrique Tarrio. But the first of him turns my stomach.
– h/t Nick Danger
Yes the FBI campaigns against the US left are famous world wide. Glad a right wing thug may have been a patsy here, or maybe a straight out informant. Whatever he is/was, he and his confreres need to get very long sentences, and people of all political persuasions need to understand-anyone advocating violence is either a fool, a stool or both.
@RandomMonster: The most wild-eyed and violent-talking revolutionary in your radical group is often an FBI provocateur. It’s how they work.
Who are the Proud Boys? Are they always in sync with the GQP? Had never heard of them before the Jan 6 coverage.
My first thought. I guess I gotta get up earlier.
In my age group, the talk is often of whether to use Alleve or Motrin, and whether they prefer Metamucil over Miralax. Sad, if the FBI is infiltrating.
Like many, I was annoyed by the many manipulations of the twitter blue check. But now that it has turned into “This is a deplorable”, it’s actually pretty useful.
(There are a few non-deplorables who got them for free, but they’re relatively easy to pick out.)
Google ’em. You’ll have what our elegant elderly neighbor called “a sumptuous sufficiency” of information.
@Anne Laurie: All police informants are criminals. They’re allowed to continue criming because they occasionally deliver someone to the police.
@SFAW: In my radical group, we discuss knee replacements and unwanted facial hair.