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Friday Night Open Thread: Who’d Be A Woman (CEO) On Twitter?…

by Anne Laurie|  May 12, 20239:51 pm| 87 Comments

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yes hello linda this is the thucydidian patriot 69 and my question for you is if you love free speech so much then why won’t you say the n word https://t.co/pSFsEbZFB8

— kilgore trout, blue check blocker (@KT_So_It_Goes) May 12, 2023

Also I'll believe it when I see it

— Eoin Higgins (@EoinHiggins_) May 11, 2023

From immediate reports, Linda Yaccarino seems to be a bog-standard corner-office MBA-approved AdPro, basically conservative, someone who’s “publicly praised Musk“ and “been seen as angling” for the job:

… While Musk may soon no longer be CEO, he still owns the company, which he has renamed “X.” It seems unlikely that giving someone else one specific title will make Twitter any less of a wild ride. Musk became “Chief Twit” last October, when he closed his acquisition of the company, followed by the immediate firing of large portions of its executive staff and thousands of other employees.

As Musk has reshaped Twitter policy, seemingly to match his own whims, speculation has only increased about how long his tenure would last — and how big of an effect it’s having on his other companies. The Musk era has also included changes that upset Twitter’s relationships with users, public safety officials, and others.

Musk’s Twitter takeover even affected the platform’s advertising business. Several major advertisers paused spending on Twitter over concerns that Musk’s views on free speech could damage their reputation, and the wave of fake verified accounts that appeared on the platform following the initial launch of Musk’s revamped Twitter Blue didn’t help, either…

Musk previewed the CEO change with a December poll asking followers if he should “step down as head of Twitter,” promising to abide by the wishes of the crowd (and likely bots).

The vote appeared after Musk implemented a widely criticized policy change that seemingly banned sharing links to other social network sites. Musk later clarified and then rolled back the rule, promising that there would be a vote for major policy changes going forward — not the first time he promised decisions at Twitter would be made by committee. A few minutes later, he tweeted the poll about stepping down, which received around 17.5 million responses, with 57.5 percent indicating that he should no longer be CEO of Twitter…

Assuming Musk’s major creditors (*cough* MBS *cough*) have made it clear to him: The advertisers must be placated. Meanwhile, Yaccarino’s worth millions of dollars, has probably reached the pinnacle of her achievements with Comcast/NBCUniversal/WhateverItsCalledNextWeek, and presumably figures she can afford to take the risk of going over the Glass Cliff in return for the potential glory of being The Big Swinging Achievement-Haver Who Turned Twitter into English-Language WeChat.

choosing a WEF exec is kinda proof positive that elon isn't really one of the chuds, he's something much worse: a desperate loser, a hanger on, who thinks the chuds are the cool kids and so badly wants their approval. but he doesn't really understand them.

— Michael (@_FleerUltra) May 12, 2023

i also wonder what all of his unpaid creditors are currently thinking, because there's no way she came cheap as an exec at NBCuniversal.

— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachi) May 12, 2023

And yet… MR. MUSK, THE NATIVES ARE RESTLESS!

Catturd2 has turned on Elon Musk https://t.co/9sqXrHDiBe

— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) May 12, 2023

did i say 4 months i said 4 days https://t.co/T9mA5wxdBJ

— lauren (@NotABigJerk) May 12, 2023

this type of transphobia has to be studied pic.twitter.com/gnt4VL93r2

— pudding person (@JUNlPER) May 12, 2023

The best thing about the new Twitter CEO is you can tell he tried to hire someone to please the right while also being semi-respectable to the ads industry, yet pissed off the right and I doubt the ads industry is impressed at all. The business conductor's symphony

— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) May 12, 2023

Fortuitously, I just got delivery on several boxes of my favorite microwave popcorn…

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    1. 1.

      Baud

      May 12, 2023 at 9:56 pm

      I assume her severance package is out of this world.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      sab

      May 12, 2023 at 9:56 pm

      I have understood and mocked the concept of glass ceiling for decades, but I didn’t know there was a label for it.

      Struggling big corporation  finally hired a woman. Investors head for the hills because company was therefore sicker than we thought.

      ETA Mocked the concept because there are a lot of talented women out there who could run a company, but boards of directors only hire them when it is too late, and the best women talent, like all the men talent, say they will pass on this dumpster fire.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      Baud

      May 12, 2023 at 9:58 pm

      I wonder what she’ll do when Elon rigs Twitter next year to help the GOP.

      Reply
    4. 4.

      karen marie

      May 12, 2023 at 9:59 pm

      @Baud: I wouldn’t assume that. She can’t be especially bright given she took the job. Her previous employment doesn’t speak well of her judgment either.

      Reply
    5. 5.

      bbleh

      May 12, 2023 at 10:04 pm

      This is starting to remind me of a really bad soap opera with lots of bizarre plot twists that … nobody cares about.

      Reply
    6. 6.

      different-church-lady

      May 12, 2023 at 10:10 pm

      I give it a month before she reacts the way John Kelly did with Trump.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      sab

      May 12, 2023 at 10:10 pm

      @bbleh: I think it is sad that another woman threw herself into this mess.

      Reply
    8. 8.

      Another Scott

      May 12, 2023 at 10:11 pm

      Forbes.com (from March 7):

      KEY FACTS

      * In an interview with Irish broadcaster RTÉ, Data Protection Commissioner Helen Dixon said this week her office had seen “something of a breakdown of communication” with Twitter’s Dublin office.

      * The Dublin office serves as Twitter’s headquarters in the EU, making the Irish DPC its chief privacy regulator in the bloc.

      * Dixon said that after Elon Musk’s takeover of the company, she was assured that any new feature rollouts in the European market would happen after discussions with her office.

      * The company, however, launched its Twitter Blue subscription service in Europe in recent weeks and did so “without any engagement” with the DPC.

      * Dixon said her office “urgently” made contact with Twitter’s Data Protection Officer in Dublin to seek assurances about the service meeting EU personal data protection standards and is still waiting for a response.

      * According to Reuters, the DPC is also concerned about the verification process for blue checkmarks, which prevents Twitter Blue subscribers from posing as public figures.

      AFAIK, all the issues with Twitter / X / Bqhatevwr in the EU still remain. And she won’t be able to fix them with Melon second guessing everything.

      I wouldn’t even trust that she’s going to get a big payout for being the fall-gal. AFAIK, Melon broke all the agreements about paying severance for Twitter employees when he bought the joint. He thinks that none of the rules apply to him…

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    9. 9.

      satby

      May 12, 2023 at 10:13 pm

      @different-church-lady: Well, it only took a couple of days before a lot of the (now former) Twitter employees started calling Elmo an idiot

      Reply
    10. 10.

      Baud

      May 12, 2023 at 10:15 pm

      @Another Scott:

      He wouldn’t have been forced to honor his agreement to buy Twitter if none of the rules applied to him.

      Reply
    11. 11.

      Ohio Mom

      May 12, 2023 at 10:15 pm

      I was only half paying attention when I first heard Elon was hiring help. I thought Good! There’s hope, the new person may be able to fix things, if we are all lucky.

      Then I heard the help was a woman and I thought, Oh, this is a joke, someone is making this up. It’s some sort of parody attempt.

      Apparently, I was wrong twice. Oh well. I iike the mix of twitter accounts I check in on every day and I will miss them when it all finally implodes.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      Baud

      May 12, 2023 at 10:15 pm

      @bbleh:

      As The Turd Turns

      Reply
    13. 13.

      Another Scott

      May 12, 2023 at 10:18 pm

      @Baud: Exceptions prove the rule.

      ;-)

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    14. 14.

      Poe Larity

      May 12, 2023 at 10:24 pm

      If twitter is a public commons under the 1st Amendment, can we nationalize it?

      Reply
    15. 15.

      zhena gogolia

      May 12, 2023 at 10:26 pm

      @bbleh: Me too. When does the evil twin appear?

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    16. 16.

      bbleh

      May 12, 2023 at 10:30 pm

      @zhena gogolia: wait … you mean we haven’t seen the evil one yet?!

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

      May 12, 2023 at 10:31 pm

      Of course, the first reaction from Musk fanboys to his hiring a woman CEO was vile misogyny. So on brand.

      Reply
    18. 18.

      Frankensteinbeck

      May 12, 2023 at 10:32 pm

      Someone in a previous thread said Musk is planning on putting mute/block behind the 8$ paywall.  If that happens, the mass exodus will be insane.  It directly affects so many people, especially people whose presence on Twitter draws others.

      Reply
    19. 19.

      Steeplejack

      May 12, 2023 at 10:44 pm

      Golly, is there any indication of what her political leanings might be? 🤔

      When the incoming CEO of Twitter follows “Bumble” Jack Posobiec, Libs of TikTok and Malaysian woke mind virus-survivor Ian Miles Cheong, it’s time to start investing your attention to a new platform, if you haven’t already started:
      pic.twitter.com/8ucF7Xc3Oj

      — Michael Edison Hayden (@MichaelEHayden) May 12, 2023

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    20. 20.

      kindness

      May 12, 2023 at 10:46 pm

      Twitter under Elon can’t help itself.  It wants to be 4Chan but also wants all the ad money.

      Reply
    21. 21.

      Frankensteinbeck

      May 12, 2023 at 10:51 pm

      @Steeplejack:

      Libs of TikTok

      Musk really, really loves him some transphobia.  I wonder how much his buying Twitter was motivated by him hating trans women specifically?  It’s what all those ‘comedy is back’ comments are about.  Twitter banned people for misgendering and deadnaming then going “Just a joke!”  Those were the first bans he reversed.

      Reply
    22. 22.

      Sanjeevs

      May 12, 2023 at 10:52 pm

      @Another Scott:

      FB, Google etc have their European HQs in Ireland and have large numbers of employees there.

      Twitter have almost no presence in Ireland so Helen Dixon has every incentive to make an example of them.

      Reply
    23. 23.

      No One You Know

      May 12, 2023 at 10:56 pm

      @Baud: She’ll be on the next rocket!

      Reply
    24. 24.

      Steeplejack

      May 12, 2023 at 10:57 pm

      @Steeplejack:

      And more. (Couldn’t find this a while ago.)

      It’s her hat. Have the furious ones even looked at who she follows?
      pic.twitter.com/89Jk88PoKT

      — Schooley (@Rschooley) May 12, 2023

      Reply
    25. 25.

      Chetan Murthy

      May 12, 2023 at 10:58 pm

      @Another Scott:

      Twitter / X / Bqhatevwr

      Senator Playgirl Centerfold represent!

      Reply
    26. 26.

      Amir Khalid

      May 12, 2023 at 11:08 pm

      Who is this Ian Miles Cheong person?

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    27. 27.

      Poe Larity

      May 12, 2023 at 11:08 pm

      Glass Ceiling or Glass Cliff?

      We need to talk about casting for this biopic coming to NBC next year.

      Reply
    28. 28.

      Steeplejack

      May 12, 2023 at 11:14 pm

      @Amir Khalid:
      He is a far-right agitator and shitposter “social media influencer” who gained prominence by being retweeted by Musk.​

      Reply
    29. 29.

      mrmoshpotato

      May 12, 2023 at 11:19 pm

      Baby lemur

      Reply
    30. 30.

      TriassicSands

      May 12, 2023 at 11:23 pm

      @Frankensteinbeck: …the mass exodus will be insane

      Ever since Musk bought Twitter there has been an endless stream of predictions guaranteeing the end of Twitter. But most of the people who were supposed to have abandoned it, don’t seem to have gone anywhere and it keeps chugging along.

      I pay as little attention to Twitter as I reasonably can, but for an entity that was supposed to “implode” long ago, it still seems to be very much present.

      When exactly is the inevitable demise of Twitter going to take place?

      “Enquiring minds want to know.”

      Reply
    31. 31.

      NotMax

      May 12, 2023 at 11:28 pm

      FYI.

      George Takei appearing on Ali Velshi’s MSNBC show Saturday at 10 a.m. Eastern time.

      Reply
    32. 32.

      Origuy

      May 12, 2023 at 11:32 pm

      Here in northern California it’s Bing cherry season. It usually lasts 5-6 weeks until they’re gone. I just had a taste and they are really sweet. The Rainier cherries will show up in a couple of weeks. There’s a truck down the street selling them along with strawberries.

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Adam L Silverman

      May 12, 2023 at 11:37 pm

      Just a quick point on the being transgender accusation, which doesn’t seem to be the case and, if it was, shouldn’t make a damn bit of difference, a lot of the whackjobs that think Musk was going to save them are in ideological circles that include and/or overlap a really niche conspiracy theory that everyone is trans. This is a long and detailed explainer video by Mia Mulder. Ms Mulder is a Swedish politician.

      Reply
    34. 34.

      piratedan

      May 12, 2023 at 11:40 pm

      @TriassicSands: well, there are lots of facets to twitter that have accommodated a LOT of niche interests and circles that have been built.  People are loathe to start over, especially journos that have cultivated a huge media following by pushing their content and insights on the birdsite….

      those folks apparently don’t have fondness for learning something new/starting over and the birdsite 3rd party apps made twitter a manageable place.  None of that is in place elsewhere, with the possible exception of bluesky, brought to you by the same folks that sold off Twitter to begin with, but as of yet, no idea if all of that 3rd party apparatus will work with it or not…  Also, inertia is a thing.

      so while political content creators have not moved en masse as of yet, users are finding alternatives and rebuilding networks again all without the political twitter inducement.

      If those folks value their “Twitter” numbers more than moving off the narcissist platform, well then… that’s a shitty call on their part.

      Reply
    35. 35.

      Frankensteinbeck

      May 12, 2023 at 11:48 pm

      @TriassicSands:

      It’s been an interesting question.  People really, really, really do not want to leave Twitter.  So far, other than a serious increase in bugs and outages, it hasn’t directly affected many people, or has only affected them as a minor nuisance.  A lot of the people who have stayed have said that they do because they can mute/block the increased number of trolls, and anyone remotely public and liberal gets farms and farms of trolls.  The liberals who do not get trolls stay for the stated reason of seeing the content of the more public ones who do.  So, this may hit them where they hurt.

      The thing is, this has happened before, to other services.  There’s a huge inertia, but at some point it hits a line where, en masse, people decide they’ve had enough and the service dies.

      Reply
    36. 36.

      Adam L Silverman

      May 12, 2023 at 11:50 pm

      @Amir Khalid: He’s a late 40s/early 50s dude from Malaysia who made something of a name for himself doing YouTube gamer videos. He then parlayed that, via Twitter, into becoming a revanchist reply guy on Twitter to every notable American extremist. He regularly comments about American politics, society, culture, and religion, despite the fact he’s never been to the US. He often works in tandem on Twitter with Andy Ngo.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      HumboldtBlue

      May 12, 2023 at 11:54 pm

      My maternal grandfather was a stern formidable and intimidating figure to a little boy like me, what with his jet-white hair and stiff bristling mustache that tickled when you gave him a kiss, yellowed by the smoke from the eternal cigarette somewhere nearby whether he was on his mower cutting the grass or drinking his high ball or seated at the post-dinner card table teamed with grandma against mom and dad in the summer vacation bridge games they played.

      He didn’t sound a lick like this fella, at least not in timbre or tenor nor twang, but that look, the demeanor, well, that could be his twin.

      Reply
    38. 38.

      lgerard

      May 12, 2023 at 11:56 pm

      LOL

      https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1656841088726908936

      Reply
    39. 39.

      Steeplejack

      May 13, 2023 at 12:04 am

      @TriassicSands:

      Twitter is not like a refrigerator that’s getting flaky and then one day it suddenly dies. Think of it more as the capital city of an empire in decline. Conditions aren’t as good as they once were, the emperor is kind of a crazy nut, and maybe you can see the eventual collapse, but it’s a long way off. Things mostly still work, more or less, and it’s hard to rouse yourself to emigrate to parts unknown right now. Maybe wait awhile and see what happens. Inertia.

      Reply
    40. 40.

      Sanjeevs

      May 13, 2023 at 12:07 am

      @Adam L Silverman: I also saw a lot of attacks on her for relating to the WEF conspiracy

      Reply
    41. 41.

      TriassicSands

      May 13, 2023 at 12:09 am

      @Frankensteinbeck:

      I’ll believe it when it happens. People whine a lot, but taking action isn’t nearly as common in the US as whining. Inertia is undoubtedly at work, but I really wonder if the time will ever come when there is a mass exodus.

      Americans are not good at change. Change, taking action, requires energy and I don’t doubt that most Twitter users will resist leaving unless and until it becomes absolutely untenable to stay. Right now, I wouldn’t bet a penny that day will ever come. But I’m not paying enough attention to have an informed opinion beyond expecting more of the same.

      Two things that would put a smile on my face:

      1. Waking up to the news that Twitter is dead.

      2. Waking up to TFG’s obituary. (Note: A lot more than a smile.)

      @piratedan: If those folks value their “Twitter” numbers more than moving off the narcissist platform, well then… that’s a shitty call on their part.

      Lots of shitty calls made by Americans every day. I’d say it’s the norm.

      But, damn it guys, I wanted a date! Sheesh, it’s not like I was asking for the exact time of day.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      TriassicSands

      May 13, 2023 at 12:15 am

      @Steeplejack:

      Fortunately, I don’t have any stake in Twitter. So, it can continue or not and it shouldn’t affect my life. But there has been so much talk about the imminent demise of Twitter, and it really doesn’t seem to me like that is very likely. In order to avoid the effort it will take to make a change, my guess would be the people who are committed to Twitter will put up with an almost endless amount of disappointment rather than abandon it and start over on another platform.

      Others know a lot more about this than I do, but my guess would be that until and unless there is one obvious alternative platform to migrate to, the vast majority of dedicated users will stick it out more or less forever. Does that make sense?

      Reply
    43. 43.

      Another Scott

      May 13, 2023 at 12:21 am

      @TriassicSands: It looks like Melon made the 2nd interest payment (Bloomberg story from May 3):

      Twitter Inc. made its second interest payment on the $12.5 billion in debt that Elon Musk used to take the social media giant private last year.

      The company, which is now part of Musk’s newly formed shell firm X Corp., paid a group of seven banks, led by Morgan Stanley, which became stuck with the debt after they were unable to sell it to outside investors, according to people familiar with the matter who asked not to be named discussing a private transaction.

      So, presumably he’ll be making another payment in September or so.  Maybe he’ll decide to dump the company before the end of the year (to have a big loss for his taxes) and someone else will try to resurrect it.  I figure eventually he’s going to declare victory and cut his losses. Who knows…

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      RaflW

      May 13, 2023 at 12:27 am

      @TriassicSands: I admit I believed the folks who said the back end tech would fall apart faster than it has. But a few thoughts:

      The EU isn’t quite as toothless as US consumer or business regulators. If Twitter really thinks it can bluster and stall those folks on data privacy issues, Musk may be surprised.

      In terms of user engagement, there’s certainly self-reported dissatisfaction among writers and other creatives that they aren’t getting the engagement, nor getting traffic driven to their sites that they did, say 6-12 months ago, despite – so far, they say – putting about the same into content on the site as before.

      If that continues, they may not leave, but they won’t produce as much product for Musk (or the new ‘ceo’ — in scare quotes because I don’t believe Musk will be able to let her really be chief. He’ll hover and second guess and override her. Seems inevitable).

      He still doesn’t seem to get that how the site worked was, people produced free content (!), advertisers paid Twitter for the speed and frequency of eyeballs, and the free content creators at least got traffic and maybe sales or at least ancillary ad action when people clicked thru. He’s screwed that, and seen his own ad rates drop as well.

      It’s why he keeps trying to find ways to induce people to pay to be content providers ($8 for the ability to block? F.U., elmo). It may not implode. But it may very well MySpace.

      Or just be so toxic that it motors along for a rabid user base of $8 moron-fascist at about 1/10th its peak size.

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      Steeplejack

      May 13, 2023 at 12:29 am

      @TriassicSands:

      Are you vehemently agreeing with me? You’re the one who seems to want a date for the “imminent demise of Twitter.” I don’t think there is one. Can you give us a date certain for the end of the Roman empire?

      Reply
    46. 46.

      Ken

      May 13, 2023 at 12:36 am

      @Adam L Silverman: Good lord, how do the writers of the DSM keep up?

      Reply
    47. 47.

      David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      May 13, 2023 at 12:36 am

      Glad I never left MySpace

      Reply
    48. 48.

      Ken

      May 13, 2023 at 12:42 am

      @RaflW:  I don’t believe Musk will be able to let her really be chief. He’ll hover and second guess and override her.

      I would have thought he needed to spend more time with the rocket company. After all, the FAA is not going to let that thing launch again until the weight of the paperwork exceeds the weight of the rocket.

      Reply
    49. 49.

      Amir Khalid

      May 13, 2023 at 12:47 am

      @Adam L Silverman:

      He regularly comments about American politics, society, culture, and religion, despite the fact he’s never been to the US.

      I have spent some time in America: no more than six days at a time, about a month in total, all of it when Bill Clinton was POTUS and The X-Files ruled the airwaves. I know a bit more about the USA than the average Malaysian, but I wouldn’t try to pontificate about the place.

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    50. 50.

      TriassicSands

      May 13, 2023 at 12:48 am

      @Steeplejack:

      A date? No, I was just kidding. Of course, no one can give a date or even guarantee Twitter’s demise. I was joking about that.

      Reply
    51. 51.

      Chetan Murthy

      May 13, 2023 at 1:02 am

      @RaflW:

       I don’t believe Musk will be able to let her really be chief.

      He said he’ll remain CTO, in charge of all technology.  That means the new CEO is in charge of one thing: “hey buddy, sell what’s on the truck”.  That’s it.  She’s in charge of advertising.

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    52. 52.

      Noskilz

      May 13, 2023 at 1:05 am

      I’m assuming that Musk just wants someone else supposedly at the wheel when Twitter croaks.

      Considering how he’s treated his underlings, even the ones who go out of their way to suck up to him, I hope she insisted on an awful lot of money up front and has lawyers ready to enforce whatever contract she has when he tries to stiff her after the collapse.

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    53. 53.

      Frankensteinbeck

      May 13, 2023 at 1:05 am

      @Chetan Murthy:

      So she’s a scapegoat.

      Reply
    54. 54.

      TriassicSands

      May 13, 2023 at 1:06 am

      @Ken:

      But the launch and explosion were a huge success. Elon told us that.

      The media covered it like the Starship had to blow up. There was no way forward without it exploding.

      The early days of the US space program were rife with spectacular failures, but how many Saturn Vs exploded? I don’t think any did. Given the rudimentary state of technology in the 60s, and the magnitude of the project, Gemini and Apollo were remarkably successful. We know so much more now, some of the mistakes of the past shouldn’t happen again.

      Musk saying he expected it to blow up didn’t strike me as a very appropriate attitude. It seems pretty clear that the explosion was considerably more destructive than Space X expected it to be, which may point to Musk assuming he has a blank check and failures don’t really matter, so underestimating the impact of an explosion was acceptable. It shouldn’t be.

      Reply
    55. 55.

      Chetan Murthy

      May 13, 2023 at 1:12 am

      @Frankensteinbeck: hard agree.

      Reply
    56. 56.

      Steeplejack

      May 13, 2023 at 1:49 am

      @Frankensteinbeck:

      Also, Musk times “big” announcements to deflect attention. I think Tesla just recalled 1.1 million cars in China.

      Reply
    57. 57.

      eldorado

      May 13, 2023 at 1:57 am

      none of these excuses for why people remain engaged on twitter explain why this blog has to constantly promote it too

      Reply
    58. 58.

      Mai Naem mobile

      May 13, 2023 at 1:58 am

      Elon will fire her and excuse not paying her golden parachute with some BS. She figures she’ll get a $$$ book deal out of it. Maybe even movie rights from the book. The book will be written with the help of a ghost writer. All this for for putting up with a few months of drama. What’s she got to lose?

      Reply
    59. 59.

      Chetan Murthy

      May 13, 2023 at 2:05 am

      @Mai Naem mobile: I know that execs at that level bargain hard.  Surely she’ll insist that her termination payment be put in escrow.  I mean, she’s giving up a very stable job for this.

      Reply
    60. 60.

      Mai Naem mobile

      May 13, 2023 at 2:27 am

      @Chetan Murthy: Elon comes across as the kind of guy who would promise you crazy riches if you meet xyz goals and then fires your ass when you’ve met xy goals and close to achieving goal z, so that he can get out of the deal he made with you.  I am also wondering since its Elon if he’s got her sucked in like he did the executive  at Starlink who IIRC was pregnant with Elon’s kid the same time as Grimes was pregnant. I don’t understand these people but I feel sorry for the kids who I have to believe are screwed up from these situations.

      Reply
    61. 61.

      Chetan Murthy

      May 13, 2023 at 2:30 am

      @Mai Naem mobile: the neural link executive is quoted as saying that musk is the person she admires most. She’s also 36. Yuccarino is 59; point I would hope by this point she can’t be snowed like that.

      Reply
    62. 62.

      Mai Naem mobile

      May 13, 2023 at 2:35 am

      Anybody see this: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-throws-ex-cuomo-aides-bribery-conviction-rcna68456. Its almost like the Roberts Court wants all public officials no matter which party  to get away with corruption so that their corruption doesn’t look so bad.  I also read that a Mass appeals court overturned some of the convictions in the rich-parents-buying- their-kids-into-elite schools case. Apparently the Staples executive’s kids were qualified to attend Stanford and Harvard and so there was so the bribing didn’t count. Since when did qualify guarantee that you got into an elite school?  The guy paid $1M to get his twins into Harvard and  a smaller amount to Stanford for his other kid.

      Reply
    63. 63.

      Frankensteinbeck

      May 13, 2023 at 2:59 am

      @Mai Naem mobile:

      The Roberts court has a consistent history of defining bribery as explicit quid pro quo and nothing else.  The smallest deniability and it’s not corruption.  It would make sense if they were defining their own actions as acceptable.

      Reply
    64. 64.

      Odie Hugh Manatee

      May 13, 2023 at 3:11 am

      I wonder if Catturd calls himself that because as a child the cats tried to bury him every time he played in the sandbox.

      Child-Emperor Elon hired a woman so he could have someone to blame when all of the chickens from his actions come home to roost. Him as CTO is a laugh as you know he’ll be running everything and taking credit for her successes (if any) while blaming her for the failures.

      That and he gets to fuck with his fanbois because he views the world as his personal Colosseum and its inhabitants are his playthings to do with as he wishes.

      Reply
    65. 65.

      NotMax

      May 13, 2023 at 3:15 am

      @Mai Naem mobile

      $1 million? A veritable bargain compared to the traditional route of endowing a new library, other educational building or residence hall.

      Reply
    66. 66.

      NotMax

      May 13, 2023 at 3:32 am

      @Odie Hugh Manatee

      She’s actually a canny choice to, at least in the short term, project an air of stability and attempt to mollify and stanch the bleeding of the lifeblood of the joint — deep-pocketed advertisers (who have extensive history with her). The unknown is by how long or short a leash she’s restricted.

      Reply
    67. 67.

      Shalimar

      May 13, 2023 at 3:33 am

      @Frankensteinbeck: Shhhhh.  Elon doesn’t know she’s a scapegoat yet.  He’s a bullshit artist.  His bullshit hasn’t worked on advertisers so far, so he figures hiring an expert bullshit artist in that field will solve the problem.  She only becomes a scapegoat when he refuses to rein in the nazis and advertisers refuse to come back.

      Reply
    68. 68.

      Shalimar

      May 13, 2023 at 3:39 am

      @NotMax: She’s a great choice, but no amount of advertising genius is getting around Elon’s egotastic goal of providing free speech for horrible people.  And he isn’t changing that.

      Reply
    69. 69.

      Mai Naem mobile

      May 13, 2023 at 3:42 am

      @Frankensteinbeck: i have a friend who does regulatory state inspections.  At one point, he told me, he wasn’t allowed to accept a bottle of water if he was offered some during an inspection.  He could accept tap water in a glass but not a bottle of water. Pre-covid you could pick up generic bottles of water for 10c a bottle. But these judges can accept $500000 vacations and free rent for their relatives? WTF? I find this unfuckingbelievable.

      Reply
    70. 70.

      Mai Naem mobile

      May 13, 2023 at 3:46 am

      @NotMax: maybe so but the marketing person who was at Twitter before was supposed be a superstar. She was even kissing Elon’s ass and while she was one of the last ones fired,  he still did can her. I don’t think Elon knows how to make money without those sweet sweet gubmint subsidies.

      Reply
    71. 71.

      NotMax

      May 13, 2023 at 3:50 am

      @Shalimar

      It’s the old parable decked out in new digital duds.

      “It’s the darn dogs, JB. They just won’t eat it.”

      Reply
    72. 72.

      🐾BillinGlendaleCA

      May 13, 2023 at 5:23 am

      I’ve decided to get another camera, a full spectrum converted used Sony A7R.  I’ve already got a clip in filter(it goes in the camera body) to make this an Astro-mode camera

      Reply
    73. 73.

      Gvg

      May 13, 2023 at 7:36 am

      @TriassicSands: no body has died from any SpaceX anything that I know of. The US program had some spectacular deaths and most of them were bad management decisions that were whitewashed to the public with lies about it to follow. Frankly, SpaceX is doing good so far. Don’t know how, guess it’s robotics make it possible but be very grateful.

      PS my dad worked on the space program. He is proud, but when I became an adult taught me the dark side of it too. The space program always thought it would be shut down if it had failures. Politics. It had ardent support but also factions who hated it and thought it was dangerous and wasteful. So they always covered things up, were never honest, exaggerated.

      Maybe private funding escaped they microscope of political tug of war. I still don’t approve, and despise Musk, but SpaceX’s safety record is admirable, as far as I know, and the space programs WAS NOT really. We had some serious failures.

      Reply
    74. 74.

      Matt McIrvin

      May 13, 2023 at 7:52 am

      @Gvg: SpaceX hasn’t been good to its neighbors. This is a particularly interesting case: the inexcusable thing is their decision to avoid any kind of system on the launch pad to control flame and vibration, which led to the rocket exhaust digging a big hole into the ground and spreading debris far and wide.  It may have even caused the failure by taking out several of the rocket’s engines on launch. But even if the rocket didn’t fail, it’d have been an environmental disaster.

      The idea of leaving off those pad systems feels like an Elon decision to me, though I could be wrong. It reminds me of his insistence that Tesla should be able to do self-driving without radar. I’ve wondered for a while if Starship is currently the program they use to keep Elon Musk busy while they work on other things that pay the bills. But the Artemis lander is supposed to be Starship-derived, so now it’s impinging on their government business.

      Reply
    75. 75.

      BellyCat

      May 13, 2023 at 7:54 am

      @Gvg: Very interesting. This has genuine explanatory value for the Challenger explosion resulting from the known o-ring problems at cold temps not being reported up the management chain.

      Reply
    76. 76.

      Matt McIrvin

      May 13, 2023 at 7:59 am

      @BellyCat: In the Shuttle program it seemed like there was a tendency to make backwards assumptions that a system was incapable of failure just because it had to be incapable of failure. Richard Feynman talked about it after the Challenger investigation, if I recall.

      Reply
    77. 77.

      Another Scott

      May 13, 2023 at 8:10 am

      @Gvg: My understanding is that the early, Navy, pre-NASA, failures were caused by pressure to get things done quickly.  People were working too hard, too little sleep, etc, to try make arbitrary deadlines and beat the other guys.

      Similarly with arbitrary deadlines with the Challenger explosion.

      Similarly with the Starship explosion.

      Disasters happen when managers push to meet deadlines at the expense of safety and getting it right.

      Melon doesn’t have any secret sauce.

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    78. 78.

      Chris Johnson

      May 13, 2023 at 8:15 am

      @Baud: Next year?

      Reply
    79. 79.

      Another Scott

      May 13, 2023 at 8:38 am

      @Matt McIrvin: IIRC, there were detailed calculations of the loss-of-vehicle failure rate for the shuttle and it was something like 1/135 launches.  It was known to be a dangerous system – even before the booster O-ring issues were widely known.

      I still remember reading AW&ST magazine articles about the booster O-rings and the pathology of the explanations from Morton-Thiokol managers that since they were only halfway burned through that it showed that there was a 2x safety margin so everything was fine. It was clear that it was a disaster waiting to happen…

      Grr…,
      Scott.

      Reply
    80. 80.

      Enhanced Voting Techniques

      May 13, 2023 at 8:53 am

      From Yaccarino’s point of view Twitter CEO would be a sweet gig; since Emo shit canned most of the staff and still has his mitts on the parts that count, all she will have to do is talk to the occasional advertiser.  Basically semi retirement and the possibility of a serious pay out when Musk’s finical backers finally force Musk to sell his toy. Then afterwards during full retirement Yaccarino can get speaking gigs about how to work for a Chaos Goblins.

      Reply
    81. 81.

      Miss Bianca

      May 13, 2023 at 10:58 am

      @Amir Khalid:

      I have spent some time in America: no more than six days at a time, about a month in total, all of it when Bill Clinton was POTUS and The X-Files ruled the airwaves. I know a bit more about the USA than the average Malaysian, but I wouldn’t try to pontificate about the place.

      You’re amazingly circumspect compared to some folks I could mention.

      Reply
    82. 82.

      Bill Arnold

      May 13, 2023 at 11:28 am

      @Baud:

      I wonder what she’ll do when Elon rigs Twitter next year to help the GOP.

      Will be interesting. Musk has been normalizing real-time boosting/deboosting of accounts, which effectively makes him a publisher. And gross deboosting is easily detected; shadowbans in particular are easy to detect using a few accounts.
      Plus, any engineer or executive with access to the weights vector (matrix?), even if with read-only access, will be a potential leaker. And hacking target.

      (Just musing for a moment out loud.)

      Reply
    83. 83.

      Tenar Arha

      May 13, 2023 at 11:28 am

      @Matt McIrvin: Yep, it was his decision. He tweeted about it…about 3 years ago when they were building the launch pad.

      Reply
    84. 84.

      Daoud bin Daoud

      May 13, 2023 at 11:33 am

      @Odie Hugh Manatee:

      The world is Elmo’s litter box.

      Reply
    85. 85.

      BruceJ

      May 13, 2023 at 11:33 am

      @Steeplejack: Oh god…that makes BirdChan the dark reboot of Ankh-Morpork….

      Reply
    86. 86.

      VOR

      May 13, 2023 at 12:15 pm

      @Another Scott: In 2003 the shuttle Columbia burned up on re-entry after a loose piece of insulating foam damaged the protective heat tiles during launch. A presentation explaining the situation to NASA leaders is known as “Death by Powerpoint“.

      The engineers thought they were saying “The real-world impact was 600x bigger than our tests, this is a big problem. ” Management heard “we did tests and the tile survived being hit by the foam”.

      Communications expert Professor Edward Tufte reviewed the presentation and identified many failings.

      Reply
    87. 87.

      Other MJS

      May 13, 2023 at 1:09 pm

      This … is an eX parrot Twitter!

      Reply

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