Learning about all sorts of things I have missed today.
I don’t know if this is the most important, but it’s surely the most interesting in terms of palace intrigue. Has anyone heard about this?
This is a really important story. Why hasn't the GOP legislature taken the ministerial step to allow DeSantis to sign this bill?
Could it be that Trump allies are holding it up over the provision allowing DeSantis to run for president without resigning as governor?👀 https://t.co/E1bQzWwqq5
— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) May 14, 2023
Did we talk about the vote here on BJ?
Not one single wants to do something about Santos?
Not even one.
Every single House Republican voted to protect George Santos from expulsion. pic.twitter.com/VKnldKhCrd
— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) May 17, 2023
Given our corrupt Supreme Court, I suppose it’s fair to assume that this is not a good sign?
BREAKING: U.S. Supreme Court will hear case arguing that South Carolina's congressional map is racially gerrymandered. In the lower court, a three judge panel found that the state's 1st Congressional District violates the 14th Amendment and must be redrawn.https://t.co/K3XaQ8iYXR
— Democracy Docket (@DemocracyDocket) May 15, 2023
I don’t know what this is about, and I haven’t had time to look into this.
Hoping someone here already knows and is willing to share.
This was entirely self inflicted by the DeSantis PAC. They brought a lawsuit. They lost. And they may well have screwed the candidate they literally were created to support. https://t.co/kC8IuVyMKZ
— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) May 18, 2023
As far as I’m concerned, DeSantis can keep sticking his tiny dick into the blender.
How soon before he learns?
Open thread.
Baud
Not really a sign. This is one of those rare cass where the court has to hear the appeal.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I don’t really understand what’s going on there. Are you up for providing a short explanation?
mrmoshpotato
I’m sure he’s hired only the best people.
Scout211
On the DeSantis PAC case electionlawblog
WaterGirl
@Scout211: Sounds like that’s good for us!
Scout211
@WaterGirl: Indeed.
And here’s a little more detail from Florida Politics
Baud
@WaterGirl:
I would have at six pm, but not at 9 pm.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Swell.
WaterGirl
@Scout211: So Ron can just pay them for the list, right? I am failing to understand why this is a big deal. But Marc Elias is a lot smarter than I am, so I must be missing something.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
I keed.
I believe this is a redistricting case and Supreme Court review is automatic if one party appeals. Usually, in most cases, the Supreme Court has discretion on whether to hear the case.
So we shouldn’t trust them to do the right thing, but their decision to hear the case doesn’t mean anything, since they have to.
MattF
DeSantis is doing a lot of FAFO. Some combination of stupidity and bad advice, I suppose, although the two are correlated. The big announcement is next week, one can hope it will be a disaster.
Ken
@Scout211:
Yes, because without that prompting, he would never have even considered it. I wonder if the plan was for him to refuse it three times, then reluctantly accept when the (paid) crowd clamored for him to do so.
Also, from Marc Elias’s tweet:
I don’t suppose that means his citizenship will be revoked.
WaterGirl
@Baud: That’s very helpful to know. Thank you!
WaterGirl
@Ken:
Yeah, I can’t figure out what that means, either.
Ken
@WaterGirl: I assume they mean the campaign will be in violation of election law, and might be fined. Still, although I agree in principle that we shouldn’t use the word like that*, I would take some delight in saying “DeSantis is an illegal.”
* Related XKCD.
Jackie
@MattF: Has TFG announced a MAGA Rally for that day and time? 😉
Scout211
It sounded that way to me, but I don’t know election law. He isn’t yet running for president. Maybe that’s the issue?
I also don’t understand the tweet about Florida SB7050. In my search, the reporting says the bill was already sent to DeSantis to sign. I even clicked through and couldn’t find an explanation for the tweet.
Baud
@Scout211:
Well, the tweet was four days ago.
eclare
@Scout211:
Excellent!
eclare
@Jackie:
Ooh….fingers crossed! That would be excellent!
NotMax
Opens the door to the court declaring the whole of an amendment to the Constitution unconstitutional.
//
Baud
@Jackie:
At Disney world.
cain
@NotMax:
Those assholes would probably do it along with a bunch of others.
Sure Lurkalot
As for the South Carolina SCOTUS case, my understanding is that the defense’s argument is that the district was drawn to disfavor Democrats and so is a political and not a racial gerrymander. The other side is that those Democrats happen to be African American. I look forward to Clarence Thomas denigrating his race and Alito citing some 18th century statute.
Citizen_X
@Ken: No, it means that the state declares him officially trans, and is thus banished (pronounced “banish-ed”) from Florida.
Baud
@Citizen_X:
Apt, since Trump will cut off his balls.
Baud
Hahaha
https://i.redd.it/0dy8hrjkjo0b1.jpg
Geminid
I don’t know much about the South Carolina redistricting case, but I imagine it’s similar to the Voting Rights Act lawsuit filed in Virginia that resulted in a redrawn Virginia 4th CD. The late Dan McEachin won the new 4th district in 2016, and now it’s held by Rep. Jennifer McClellan. It stretches from Richmond south to the North Carolina line.
The South Carolina 1st CD runs from the Charlston suburbs south along the coast and inland as well.. Nancy Mace represents it now. Mark Sanford used to hold the seat but he crossed Trump and was taken out by a radical in the 2018 primary. She then lost to Democrat Joe Cunninham, the first Democrat to hold the seat in decades.
Mace reclaimed the 1st CD in 2020, and then Republicans added more of their voters through redistricting. Now its Partisan Voting Index rating is R+7.
Fun 1st CD fact: Joel Poinsett represented the district in the 1830s. Besides pursuing a political and diplomatic career, Poinsett was a botanist. He brought a flower grown in tropical Mexico back to the States, and it became known as the “Poinsettia.”
Jackie
@Baud:
Fetterman free to be Fetterman ♥️
NotMax
@Citizen_X
Not to make light of it but now can’t help but remember a “just run with it, it scans” section of the lyrics from a Broadway tune.
Female vocal, sung: He almost got us all beheaded.
Male vocal, spoken: Sorry!
Second female vocal, sung: Instead we just got banish-eded.
Chorus, spoken: Yay!
;)
mrmoshpotato
Reposting for those who haven’t seen it.
Just click and laugh.
Frankensteinbeck
@Sure Lurkalot:
This is an argument that the Roberts Court has found in favor of before.
Kay
Would you look at that. A world leader was actually held accountable for crimes and the world just went right on – didn’t even miss a beat. He was replaced.
BlueGuitarist
Nebraska state Senator Megan Hunt responding to Sen. Linehan’s complaint about filibuster of anti-trans bill:
“I’m asking you to love your family more than you hate mine. If your family wants you home to recover from surgery, maybe you should do that. If you want to see your grandson graduate from preschool, you should do that. Instead you are here to drag out this session because you won’t come off this bill that hurts my son. You hate him more than you love your own family.”
https://twitter.com/HeartlandSignal/status/1659294919784034307
Sister Golden Bear
@mrmoshpotato: Uh-huh-huh, uh-huh-huh…. Heh, heh, heh…
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Sister Golden Bear:
In case you read this, I understood your point in the Florida thread earlier today
Sister Golden Bear
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): No worries.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Sister Golden Bear:
: )
AlaskaReader
the Alaska Supreme Court declined to follow the U.S. Supreme Court and place partisan gerrymandering beyond judicial review.
If anything, its decision underscores the ease with which equal protection principles can be adapted to identify impermissible partisan discrimination in redistricting.
The Alaska opinion adds to a partisan gerrymandering legal landscape that continues to evolve. In the coming months, state supreme courts in New Mexico and Utah will hear partisan gerrymandering claims under their states’ constitutions as well.
KrackenJack
The FL legislators are a bunch of wimps. Real authoritarian lickspittles would let him serve as both governor and president simultaneously.
Yutsano
@mrmoshpotato:
@Sister Golden Bear: I’ll try to forgive you both for this…
Once I stop laughing…
mrmoshpotato
@Sister Golden Bear:
@Yutsano: Hahaha! :)
Good on whoever’s eye caught the similarity.
SFBayAreaGal
@Sister Golden Bear: I read what you did there 🤣🤣🤣
prostratedragon
@BlueGuitarist: Let the record show …
She’s doing a heroic job.
trnc
@Ken:
Under current Florida law, he’s not allowed to run for president without first resigning as governor, so I wonder if this filing could somehow be seen as him having started his presidential campaign, but that’s a WAG.
ETA: There are a lot of comments in the tweet thread asking for clarification, and it’s irritating to me that Elias made that somewhat cryptic comment and then disappeared.
Paul in KY
@Ken: Not sure if you are making a Julius Caesar comparision or maybe a Richard III one.
Up until his murder, Caesar repeatedly refused any offer of kingship. He was off to whup the Parthians. His enemies felt that he would be completely successful in that and after what honours he was given for subjugating the Gauls, he would be made a living God or something.
Richard III, when he was ursurping the throne, did have bigwigs ‘ask him’ to assume it and he demurred once and then accepted.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Love that!
Is Fetterman defying the dress code for the Senate floor? Or was that not the senate floor, so there is no dress code?
Either way, let Fetterman be Fetterman!