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The cucumber of consequences rarely arrives lubed

by WaterGirl|  May 22, 20236:32 pm| 103 Comments

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Let’s talk about something besides the debt ceiling.  Who put up that post anyway????

Fifty pages of notes from Corcoran will hopefully nail Trump to the proverbial wall.

BREAKING: special counsel Jack Smith SUBPOENAED the trump org for documents related to real estate deals in CHINA, FRANCE, TURKEY, SAUDI ARABIA, KUWAIT, UAE, and OMAN since he took office. https://t.co/mq3vbYPhEQ

— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) May 22, 2023

BREAKING: E Jean Carroll WILL SEEK DAMAGES for Donald’s CNN town hall comments. https://t.co/AgoJ7OahzP

— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) May 22, 2023

so not a new defamation count, just an added count to the case that she already has. https://t.co/DRXnBGT38z

— Harry Litman (@harrylitman) May 22, 2023

 

Let’s do the other crooked Supreme Court justices next.

Dear ProPublica,

Thanks for all your great work.

Please do the Rapey Beer Justice next.

Love, WaterGirl

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    1. 1.

      schrodingers_cat

      May 22, 2023 at 6:37 pm

      Eww gross.  Can we avoid these overtly sexual metaphors. We don’t have to descend to the depths of hell to match the Orange Ogre.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      GibberJack

      May 22, 2023 at 6:37 pm

      Is there a reason you can’t publish the word “dildo” in a hed on this blog? This is Balloon Juice, correct? The place where the phrase “skull-fuck a kitten” was once used…

      Reply
    3. 3.

      JPL

      May 22, 2023 at 6:38 pm

      The Clinton Foundation and the trump gimme money fund, were in the news during 2016.   Only one stands now.   I’m glad that they are looking how money influences government.   We’ve seen how this movie ends.

      Reply
    4. 4.

      SpaceUnit

      May 22, 2023 at 6:38 pm

      Also it’s cucumber(s).  Plural.

      Reply
    5. 5.

      Scout211

      May 22, 2023 at 6:39 pm

      Link

      Special counsel Jack Smith has obtained dozens of pages of notes that Trump’s attorney Evan Corcoran took last spring, memorializing conversations with his client after the former president received the subpoena last May and before a key meeting with the Justice Department a few weeks later when Trump’s legal team said they had turned over all classified records they could find, the sources told CNN.

      The notes provide more insight into Trump’s thinking and actions during a critical time frame as the special counsel pursues its criminal investigation into Trump’s handling of classified material and the possibility he obstructed the investigation.

      Some sources close to the former president say he was merely asking Corcoran for legal advice when he inquired about whether they could beat back the subpoena. But Trump has offered shifting explanations for why he did not return all the classified documents in a timely fashion. Trump has said he had “the absolute right” to take the documents as recently as this month at a CNN town hall.

      Smith obtained the notes after an extraordinary court fight that ended with a federal judge ruling there was sufficient evidence to suggest Trump used his attorney in furtherance of a crime. That allowed prosecutors to pierce attorney-client privilege and obtain Corcoran’s notes and additional grand jury testimony from him.

      Reply
    6. 6.

      JPL

      May 22, 2023 at 6:39 pm

      @GibberJack: It wasn’t a banana.   I hadn’t even thought of that.

      yuck

      Reply
    7. 7.

      Geoduck

      May 22, 2023 at 6:40 pm

      Let’s finally learn who paid off BeerBro’s debts!

      Reply
    8. 8.

      Omnes Omnibus

      May 22, 2023 at 6:42 pm

      Garland and Smith are crypto-Republicans and are looking for any chance to let Trump skate!

      Reply
    9. 9.

      GibberJack

      May 22, 2023 at 6:46 pm

      @JPL: The banana of consequences?

      Anyhow, it’s not consequences yet.

      Reply
    10. 10.

      Baud

      May 22, 2023 at 6:49 pm

      The cucumber of consequences rarely arrives lubed

      Yeah, Amazon always messes up the order.

      Reply
    11. 11.

      SpaceUnit

      May 22, 2023 at 6:49 pm

      I think maybe we ought to have plural names for vegetables the same way we do for animals –  a pod of dolphins, a murder of crows, etc.

      A consequence of cucumbers.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

      May 22, 2023 at 6:49 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus:

      Cacti was such a jerk in that thread

      Reply
    13. 13.

      Scout211

      May 22, 2023 at 6:50 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: Ice or Roller?

      Reply
    14. 14.

      gene108

      May 22, 2023 at 6:51 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus:

      I doubt Garland or Smith have clue how crypto works or blockchain.

      Just old fashioned Republicans.

      Reply
    15. 15.

      Jeffro

      May 22, 2023 at 6:52 pm

      @Geoduck: it was billionaire Barre Seid (“Barry Side”)

      I think it was New Republic who had a big expose’ on that clown.

      Reply
    16. 16.

      GibberJack

      May 22, 2023 at 6:52 pm

      @SpaceUnit: A ream of cucumbers?

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Omnes Omnibus

      May 22, 2023 at 6:52 pm

      @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): No big deal.

      Reply
    18. 18.

      Jeffro

      May 22, 2023 at 6:52 pm

      @SpaceUnit:A consequence of cucumbers.

      WIN

      Reply
    19. 19.

      craigie

      May 22, 2023 at 6:53 pm

      One of the internet’s greatest headlines.

      Reply
    20. 20.

      SpaceUnit

      May 22, 2023 at 6:53 pm

      Hopefully the cucumber of consequences is only a precursor to the pineapple of justice.

      Reply
    21. 21.

      suzanne

      May 22, 2023 at 6:54 pm

      Is there a reason you can’t publish the word “dildo” in a hed on this blog?

      This is the “TWO wetsuits and a dildo” blog.

      Dude, the first time I used that turn of phrase in real conversation…. I had to explain myself.

      Reply
    22. 22.

      suzanne

      May 22, 2023 at 6:55 pm

      @SpaceUnit:

      Hopefully the cucumber of consequences is only a precursor to the pineapple of justice. 

      Or the hot sauce of lavashit oh what the fuck

      Reply
    23. 23.

      mrmoshpotato

      May 22, 2023 at 6:58 pm

      The cucumber of consequences rarely arrives lubed

      Let’s talk about something besides the debt ceiling. Who put up that post anyway????

      So this is a sex toy post?  It’s not after dark in the US. 🤣

      Reply
    24. 24.

      NotMax

      May 22, 2023 at 6:59 pm

      @GibberJack

      The pickle of pursuance?
      //

      Reply
    25. 25.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 7:01 pm

      @SpaceUnit: Fixed

      edit: not fixed, then I would have had to change the verb, also.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      Josie

      May 22, 2023 at 7:02 pm

      Goodness, it’s not even after dark yet. Whatever shall I do to avoid reading such suggestive comments?

      Reply
    27. 27.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 7:02 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: Is this opposite day?

      Reply
    28. 28.

      SpaceUnit

      May 22, 2023 at 7:03 pm

      @WaterGirl:

      It’s the thought that counts.

      Reply
    29. 29.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 7:03 pm

      @SpaceUnit:

      A consequence of cucumbers.

      ooh, I like that.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      Ken

      May 22, 2023 at 7:03 pm

      @gene108: I doubt Garland or Smith have clue how crypto works or blockchain.

      Garland definitely has people who can explain it, although after the first few examples he probably realized that every explanation boiled down to “crime”.

      (Subcategories include “fraud”, “money laundering”, “payment for criminal activities”, and “sanctions evasion”.)

      Reply
    31. 31.

      mrmoshpotato

      May 22, 2023 at 7:03 pm

      Dear ProPublica,

       

      Thanks for all your great work.

      Please do the Rapey Beer Justice next.

      Love, WaterGirl

      YES PLEASE!

      Reply
    32. 32.

      KrackenJack

      May 22, 2023 at 7:04 pm

      @SpaceUnit: The Pineapple of Justice NEVER arrives lubed.

      Reply
    33. 33.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 7:04 pm

      @gene108: Why are you assuming Jack Smith is a Republican?

      Reply
    34. 34.

      JPL

      May 22, 2023 at 7:05 pm

      @WaterGirl: It’s always opposite day on BJ.

      Reply
    35. 35.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 7:05 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: It’s dark somewhere.

      Reply
    36. 36.

      mrmoshpotato

      May 22, 2023 at 7:06 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: Given the content of this post, I rescind my previous comment.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      Jackie

      May 22, 2023 at 7:06 pm

      I remembered to stock up on popcorn while at Costco this past weekend 😊

      And, to whoever posted “I’m Your Puppet” on the prior thread… thanks for the 👂🪱🤪

      Reply
    38. 38.

      Omnes Omnibus

      May 22, 2023 at 7:07 pm

      @WaterGirl: I was just getting it out of the way.  Also, wondering who would take me seriously.

      Reply
    39. 39.

      Omnes Omnibus

      May 22, 2023 at 7:08 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: Draw your curtains.  Problem solved.

      Reply
    40. 40.

      Odie Hugh Manatee

      May 22, 2023 at 7:09 pm

      @mrmoshpotato:

      It is if you close your eyes…

      Reply
    41. 41.

      Roger Moore

      May 22, 2023 at 7:12 pm

      @Ken:

      Cryptocurrency is not, in and of itself, a crime.  What it is, more than anything, is a dodge.  The idea is to reinvent our financial system but to call everything by new names.  Then, because everything is under a new name, it isn’t covered by existing regulations.  Boom!  Now we have a new, completely unregulated financial system.  What could possibly go wrong, except for everything that went wrong with the old financial system that make people decide to regulate it?

      Reply
    42. 42.

      Roger Moore

      May 22, 2023 at 7:13 pm

      @WaterGirl:

      Why are you assuming Jack Smith is a Republican?

      Because Donald Trump hasn’t been executed for treason yet.  Everyone in the Justice Department secretly being Trump sympathizers is the only possible explanation.

      Reply
    43. 43.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 7:13 pm

      @Josie: Hey, we needed a new post.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 7:14 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: For what it’s worth, I obviously did not.

      Reply
    45. 45.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 7:15 pm

      @Roger Moore: I hope you aren’t being serious, because I laughed.

      Reply
    46. 46.

      Omnes Omnibus

      May 22, 2023 at 7:18 pm

      @Roger Moore: It is known.

      Reply
    47. 47.

      Frankensteinbeck

      May 22, 2023 at 7:19 pm

      @WaterGirl:

      I read that as snark.

      @Ken:

      Smith took a single glance at the people pushing crypto and knew it was fraud.

      Reply
    48. 48.

      japa21

      May 22, 2023 at 7:20 pm

      @Jackie: You’re welcome.  I made the same statement to the Mrs.

      Reply
    49. 49.

      Jackie

      May 22, 2023 at 7:24 pm

      @Roger Moore: Wasn’t TFG accusing Smith’s wife of donating to Hillary?

      Not that that means he himself is a Democrat.

      Reply
    50. 50.

      Roger Moore

      May 22, 2023 at 7:28 pm

      @WaterGirl:

      Sorry. I thought the /s was understood.

      Reply
    51. 51.

      Omnes Omnibus

      May 22, 2023 at 7:29 pm

      @Roger Moore: I refuse to use /s on principle.

      Reply
    52. 52.

      Mousebumples

      May 22, 2023 at 7:33 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: The internet needs a sarcasm font.

      Though some statements are so clearly sarcastic that it may not be as needed.

      Re: Balloon Juice After Dark, my baby is asleep (and the 3 yo is at swim lessons with Mr. Mouse), so it’s close enough to dusk in my book. 🍻

      Reply
    53. 53.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 7:33 pm

      @Roger Moore: Well, I did laugh, so my initial response was that it was snark.

      Reply
    54. 54.

      Omnes Omnibus

      May 22, 2023 at 7:35 pm

      @Mousebumples: A sarcasm font would remove 3/4 of the fun of sarcasm.

      Reply
    55. 55.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 7:39 pm

      @Mousebumples: You could always cover their ears, but if Mickey is any indication, mouse ears are very large.  Possibly hard to cover.

      Reply
    56. 56.

      Mousebumples

      May 22, 2023 at 7:40 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: Lol, fair enough.

      I just know sarcasm is how I survived working in retail for over 15 years.

      Reply
    57. 57.

      Mousebumples

      May 22, 2023 at 7:41 pm

      @WaterGirl: Haha, and my daughter loves Minnie Mouse, and even has a Minnie hat. (yes, it’s warm here today; yes, she still wore her warm Minnie hat – good luck rationalizing much with a 3 year old)

      Reply
    58. 58.

      Mr. Bemused Senior

      May 22, 2023 at 7:43 pm

      The pickle of pursuance?

      No! Put down that pickle!

      Reply
    59. 59.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 7:45 pm

      @Mousebumples: as long as she doesn’t get cranky when she’s hot, i say let her wear the hat. :-)

      Reply
    60. 60.

      Mousebumples

      May 22, 2023 at 7:47 pm

      @WaterGirl: Yup, I’ve learned to pick my battles. The joys of parenting. 😜

      Reply
    61. 61.

      eversor

      May 22, 2023 at 7:48 pm

      I wrote another five+ paragraph essay for this but ditched it for this.   After all I’ve gone through in my career, I’m still aghast that any of these Trump fucks were cleared and not heavily looked into.  Cause god fucking lord I’m still explaining each new reup for clear how I took ectasy and smoked a joint cause I was really into this girl and she was really hot and how my foreign national contacts are family.  Of that dangerous country, Netherlands.

      Just fucking SSBI people.  This “you can’t SSBI elected people” shit is getting old.  The rest of us have to do it, Single Scope the morons.

      Reply
    62. 62.

      karen marie

      May 22, 2023 at 7:50 pm

      @Jackie:  Have you ever made kettle corn?  My understanding is you throw sugar in with the oil and pop the corn in the combo.  I’m skeptical but intrigued.

      Reply
    63. 63.

      Baud

      May 22, 2023 at 7:51 pm

      @Mousebumples:

      The internet needs a sarcasm font.

       

      Like this?

      Reply
    64. 64.

      Omnes Omnibus

      May 22, 2023 at 7:52 pm

      @Baud: ​
        No.

      Reply
    65. 65.

      azlib

      May 22, 2023 at 7:53 pm

      Crypto currency could never be a realistic financial system. The transaction rate in the system is just so slow by many orders of magnitude.  Also, the transaction verifiction cost is really staggeringly high. Bitcoin as an example cryptocurrency is also by design deflationary. There are only so many bitcoins you can “mine”. The libertarians who dreamed this up must have been high on some pretty good weed, if they thought this whole project was going to be anything except a small niche financial investment with a very high risk factor.

      Reply
    66. 66.

      different-church-lady

      May 22, 2023 at 7:55 pm

      Wait—which kind of cucumbers do arrive lubed?

      Reply
    67. 67.

      different-church-lady

      May 22, 2023 at 7:56 pm

      @Baud: needs more comic sans

      Reply
    68. 68.

      Roger Moore

      May 22, 2023 at 7:56 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus:

      I tend not to use /s, though I will occasionally when my humor is sufficiently dry I think people might not get it.  One should always keep Poe’s Law in mind.

      Reply
    69. 69.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 7:57 pm

      @Baud: Who doesn’t love comic sans?  :-)

      Reply
    70. 70.

      Ishiyama

      May 22, 2023 at 7:57 pm

      @Mr. Bemused Senior: Kudos for the firesign theater reference.

      Reply
    71. 71.

      different-church-lady

      May 22, 2023 at 7:57 pm

      @Scout211: Hard to believe nobody’s quoted Stringer Bell yet.

      Reply
    72. 72.

      Mousebumples

      May 22, 2023 at 7:58 pm

      @Baud:

      @different-church-lady:

      I would probably suggest Papyrus, myself.

      Reply
    73. 73.

      Jackie

      May 22, 2023 at 7:59 pm

      @karen marie: No. I’m not a fan of kettle corn. The smell of it popping actually triggers a headache.

      Reply
    74. 74.

      prostratedragon

      May 22, 2023 at 8:02 pm

      @different-church-lady:  I think this is the patsy insurance exception.

      Reply
    75. 75.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 8:02 pm

      @different-church-lady: The regular non-consequence cucumbers, of course!

      Reply
    76. 76.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 8:03 pm

      @different-church-lady: My thought is that Corcoran wasn’t exactly in on it, but he knew it was going to go south and it would get ugly, so he kept copious notes to protect his ass.

      Reply
    77. 77.

      different-church-lady

      May 22, 2023 at 8:03 pm

      @Mousebumples: Papyrus  would be good for mocking pundits like David Brooks and Tom Freidman.

      Reply
    78. 78.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 8:04 pm

      @prostratedragon: see me at #76 :-)

      Reply
    79. 79.

      Mousebumples

      May 22, 2023 at 8:04 pm

      @different-church-lady: So… Anytime someone talks about them?

      Reply
    80. 80.

      different-church-lady

      May 22, 2023 at 8:04 pm

      @WaterGirl: Waxed perhaps, but I’ve never seen one lubed.

      Reply
    81. 81.

      Baud

      May 22, 2023 at 8:05 pm

      @Mousebumples:

       

      This is snark.

      I like it.

      Reply
    82. 82.

      Mousebumples

      May 22, 2023 at 8:07 pm

      @Baud: Full service blog, amirite?

      Reply
    83. 83.

      Jay

      May 22, 2023 at 8:07 pm

      @different-church-lady:

      some arrived waxed,…… but I don’t think that’s enough,……

      Reply
    84. 84.

      prostratedragon

      May 22, 2023 at 8:07 pm

      @WaterGirl:

       “Who’s Gonna Take the Weight,” Kool and the Gang😉

      Reply
    85. 85.

      different-church-lady

      May 22, 2023 at 8:08 pm

      @WaterGirl: Usually under the sink.

      Reply
    86. 86.

      different-church-lady

      May 22, 2023 at 8:08 pm

      @Mousebumples: Exactement!

      Reply
    87. 87.

      Nukular Biskits

      May 22, 2023 at 8:11 pm

      @SpaceUnit:

      Damn. I wish I had thought of that!

      Nominated for the rotating tag line!

      Reply
    88. 88.

      geg6

      May 22, 2023 at 8:11 pm

      @WaterGirl:

      That’s what I think, too.

      Reply
    89. 89.

      Roger Moore

      May 22, 2023 at 8:12 pm

      @azlib:

      Crypto currency could never be a realistic financial system. The transaction rate in the system is just so slow by many orders of magnitude. Also, the transaction verifiction cost is really staggeringly high.

      The biggest problem, IMO, is that trying to keep the entire world’s finances, or even those of a single country, on a single public ledger is just nonsense.  You’re talking about millions (small country) to billions (whole world) of financial transactions per day.  Transmitting and synchronizing all those transactions to anyone who wants to keep track is just ludicrous.  I think the people who want the system to work just can’t grasp the scale of the world’s finances.

      Reply
    90. 90.

      Dan B

      May 22, 2023 at 8:17 pm

      @Jeffro: Scary article about a fast growing right wing network run by Leonard Leo.

      Reply
    91. 91.

      different-church-lady

      May 22, 2023 at 8:26 pm

      @Roger Moore: Money is imaginary. Why shouldn’t accounting be too?

      Reply
    92. 92.

      Quinerly

      May 22, 2023 at 9:24 pm

      @different-church-lady:

      Ever wonder why those English ones are wrapped separately in cellophane?

      Reply
    93. 93.

      Mr. Bemused Senior

      May 22, 2023 at 9:39 pm

      @different-church-lady:

      Nothing else is like information. Information is very peculiar stuff. It can both be created and destroyed. You can steal it without removing it. You can often get some just by guessing. Yet it can have great value. It can be bought and sold.

      One type of information is called Money.

      There are people who refuse to concede that money can be created and destroyed. They spend their entire lives altering records and making adjustments to ensure that every time a bit of money leaves some place, an equal bit seems to appear somewhere else. These people are called accountants.

      The Alice and Bob After Dinner Speech

      Reply
    94. 94.

      RSA

      May 22, 2023 at 9:47 pm

      @Mousebumples:  The internet needs a sarcasm font.

      Nah. The Internet just needs smarter people.

      Reply
    95. 95.

      VOR

      May 22, 2023 at 10:26 pm

      @different-church-lady: Hard to believe nobody’s quoted Stringer Bell yet.

      I recall reading an anecdote in one of the books about TFG’s maladministration. Can’t remember which book, maybe one of the Woodward books. TFG met with a lawyer, IIRC White House Counsel Don McGahn, who took notes during their conversation. TFG said none of his previous lawyers took notes. McGahn replied that real lawyers actually take notes so they serve clients more effectively.

      Reply
    96. 96.

      JaySinWA

      May 22, 2023 at 11:21 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: It’s a cucumber salad with salad oil dressing reference. Get your mind out of the gutter.

      Reply
    97. 97.

      JaySinWA

      May 22, 2023 at 11:23 pm

      @RSA: A sarcasm font is easier to implement than making smarter people.

      Reply
    98. 98.

      WaterGirl

      May 22, 2023 at 11:38 pm

      @JaySinWA: Tough to argue with that!

      Reply
    99. 99.

      NotMax

      May 22, 2023 at 11:46 pm

      @different-church-lady

      But- but- I still spot a Fiat now and again.
      //

      Reply
    100. 100.

      grumbles

      May 23, 2023 at 1:21 am

      I guess it shouldn’t be surprising, but the thing about cryptocurrency that kills me is that the killer app for crimeing turns out to be… complicated, fossil fuel-powered accounting.

      Reply
    101. 101.

      Hkedi [Kang T. Q.]

      May 23, 2023 at 1:46 am

      @KrackenJack: And sometimes arrives with centipedes…

      Reply
    102. 102.

      K-Mo

      May 23, 2023 at 7:31 am

      @schrodingers_cat:

      Welp I scrolled through the whole thread hoping someone would point this out, but this is not a sex metaphor- It’s a rape metaphor, and it’s not amusing.

      Reply
    103. 103.

      There go two miscreants

      May 23, 2023 at 8:12 am

      @azlib: ​transaction verifiction

      I am so late to the thread (catching up) that no one will see this, but considering the subject (crypto), that is a truly inspired typo!

      Reply

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