From a ‘GenX Florida Man’:
The “success” of DeSantis as a politician is vastly overrated. He represented a gerrymandered district. He won gov the first time by 0.4% of the vote. And was re-elected largely because no one likes Charlie Crist. pic.twitter.com/6iyRDjl7Nl
— Warren (@swd2) May 21, 2023
The Red Arrow Diner is tiny — in the video, you can see one of the three (minute) booths next to the entrance. Then there’s a counter running the length of the room with about a dozen stools on one side and the (cramped) working space on the other. Since it’s so small, it’s always crowded, which is good for political photo ops but not great for the photogs, or for any politician who isn’t comfortable literally pressing the flesh.
I see this is where the humans replenish their nutrients, very fascinating, many humans clustered tightly. hello cluster, I acknowledge you have communicated with me. I will venture further into the cluster https://t.co/mhOhBQtLRX
— kilgore trout, blue check blocker (@KT_So_It_Goes) May 20, 2023
I will never trust Tara Palmeri, but I enjoy watching her mandibles sink into quivering GOP flesh…
… [F]or now, it’s mostly Trump and DeSantis fighting for those endorsements in advance of the oncoming primary, which will formally initiate a Republican presidential race that already feels two years in the making. Sure, these endorsements matter less than they once did, especially since state reps “tend to be political neophytes,” as one New Hampshire presidential consultant told me. (“There are 400 of them. They can hardly find the statehouse, and oftentimes that is a good thing.”) But the symbolism still carries some weight. Jason Osborne, the legislature’s majority leader, actually left a pledge on Sununu’s desk last week asking him to endorse DeSantis, and it hasn’t been answered, I’ve been told…
On Friday, I arrived at the Bedford Village Inn to hear DeSantis make his pitch to legislators. I was standing alongside the broadcast networks, a reporter from The Washington Post, and one from The New York Times who had flown in from Miami. On television, DeSantis can come across as savvy, reasonably well media-trained, and sometimes aggressive. (His wife, Casey, is a former local news anchor.) But in person, I immediately sensed a very different potential candidate: a guarded politician who had no interest in actually engaging with other humans, and was perhaps even a little scared of the spotlight. He had trouble making eye contact with people in the crowd. After five minutes of unmemorable remarks, we were quickly ushered out of the room so that DeSantis could have a private conversation with a group of people who had already endorsed him. It was unlikely that hard-hitting questions were coming his way.
The frustrated journalists were told not to worry: We’d soon be heading to the Red Arrow Diner, where we could see DeSantis in all his retail politicking glory, and ostensibly ask him questions either by way of scrum, round-robin, or extemporization. It was to be an early test of the press-averse governor’s ability to banter with the media in a laid-back environment, shaking hands with supporters at a place that serves the Trump Tower burger—a heart-stopping confection that combines two grilled cheese sandwiches, a beef patty, and fried mac’n’cheese, all with fries on the side.
As our small pool rushed over to the diner, however, DeSantis quickly bypassed the press while I volubly asked him whether he would take a meeting with Bob Iger. DeSantis didn’t acknowledge me, and instead seemed to be turning his body away from the scrum as he moved into the diner for photo-ops with the red-meat MAGA crowd. When I entered the crowded joint, I tried a more straightforward, if simple, query: “Governor DeSantis, why won’t you talk to the press?” This time DeSantis licked his lips nervously, and made sure not to look my way.
He immediately showed off his very limited retail skills. He asked one patron, “What’s your name?” The man responded, “Tim Anthony.” DeSantis just responded: “Ok!” and moved on. (He did make some news about Disney inside the diner when a patron asked about the situation, calling their tax status “corporate welfare” and vowing not to back down.) I shouted a few more of the same questions about Iger and Disney before DeSantis rushed past the scrum that was filming his photo-op with a child, his back to us, and slipped into his black-tinted S.U.V. and on to Concord for his meeting with Sununu…
It was my first personal observation of what DeSantis’s critics mean when they call him a paper tiger—a superficially perfect test-tube Republican candidate who, on closer inspection, is probably not ready for prime-time. Semafor’s Max Tani reports that DeSantis’s team is working to encourage him to engage more with national press, largely against his will, because everyone knows you need the coverage and the give-and-take, even if, like Trump, you’re using it to bash the media itself. But perhaps even Roe and his super PAC allies know that DeSantis isn’t yet capable of handling the heat, which is why they seem so intent on protecting him from himself. (A person familiar with Roe’s thinking said that he’s advising DeSantis to go dark with the press before his official campaign announcement, which may come as soon as next week.)…
He doesn’t seem to grow on people once they get to know him, either. I’m sure the Florida lege will find the right-sized envelope, or those misplaced stamps, once DeStompedThem makes his national candidacy official, but I guess he may have to beg a little:
The most under-reported story right now is the fact that the Florida legislature has so far refused to send #SB7050 to DeSantis for signature. This is the voter suppression bill that contains the provisions allowing DeSantis to run for president without resigning from Gov. #FLpol
— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) May 22, 2023
Sebastian
Rds “What’s your name?”
Local GOP Jello sez name.
RdS “ok!”
lol
Frankensteinbeck
Accurate. I doubt he would eat it, but still accurate.
Sebastian
@Frankensteinbeck:
I wonder how Ron felt when he saw that on the menu
NotMax
@Frankensteinbeck
“Needs moar ketchup! Now watch my aim. See that picture of Donald on the wall? Bullseye!”
//
NotMax
“You look parched, governor. Can we tempt you to whet your whistle with an Orangina? Not to worry, there’s no kids here; we can say that out loud.”
:)
waspuppet
LOL as if he’d get any heat from the Dana Bashes and Kaitlan Collinses of the world. A cringing “Bob Iger doesn’t seem to like you very much” and then two hours of “How bad is Joe Biden?”
And he can’t even handle that.
piratedan
I can certainly hope that Gov. DeSantis will find his depth during his campaign, that would imply that there’s a really deep ditch somewhere in New Hampshire.
sukabi
If the FL lege isn’t willing to send the “Let Ron Keep His Gov. Job While Running for President Bill” to him to sign, perhaps they see an opening to get rid of him once and for all…he and they’ve done a lot of damage to the state, I’ll bet quite a few of them are hearing not good things from their benefactors…
Tony Jay
By the padded banana-hammock of Christ, that’s awful. Even I’m better with people than that, and I tend to think that every stranger is just an arsehole you haven’t learned to avoid yet.
Smilin’ Joe would have been in there for ten hectic minutes, learnt every name, answered every gripe, made all the kids laugh and bought every one of those wingnuts a Trump Tower burger with extra salt so they were too busy clutching their chests to answer Palmeri’s questions about “Did Mr Biden seem confused at all?” and “How inappropriate do you think his visit here today was?”
Maybe the wrong DeSantis is on the campaign trail. At least the one with ovaries knows how to fake human interest.
Amir Khalid
@Tony Jay:
Seeing how dreadful as he is at faking humanity, I’m not sure DeSantis has the endurance to keep it up, even at this inadequate level, between now and election day in 18 months. One day, I tell you all, he’s going to short out in front of a group of voters and begin repeating random anti-woke phrases, while emitting smoke from his mouth.
NotMax
@Amir Khalid
A noun, a verb, and woke.
Betty Cracker
The footstools in the FL statehouse did in fact send the “it’s okay to abandon your state for a year and a half to run for president” bill to DeSantis. I reckon he’ll sign it today before the Twitter confab with Muskrat.
different-church-lady
“Der Fuhrer does not ‘engage.'”
Tony Jay
@Amir Khalid:
If he did that he’d probably firm up a chunk of votes from the hardline MAGOPs who don’t appreciate being talked to in no high-faluting ‘sentences’ like they’re some kind of Woke elite Lie-Bro. They’d much prefer a badly-wired megaphone in a suit honking two syllable words at them or, better still, a man-sized dog-whistle in a plaid shirt and chinos.
mrmoshpotato
LOL! DeathSantis and Rick “Batboy” Scott – scarier than The Shining twins.
mrmoshpotato
@Amir Khalid: Bleep Blorp BOOM!
JPL
@different-church-lady: TRUE
Cameron
@different-church-lady: “Engage with the national press.” Is that legal in Florida?
p.a.
Reason 1,000,000… why I could never be a politician:
Me: “What’s your name?”
Target voter: “Tim Anthony.”
Me: “Well, make up your mind!”
Chris Johnson
@Sebastian: I laughed out loud in disbelief at that one.
I have AUTISM and I ain’t that bad. Holy fuck.
Cameron
I’m becoming more and more convinced that Ronald Puddinghands is one of the Visitors from the old TV series V, except without the charm.
NotMax
@Cameron
The Coneheads are more personable than is Ron.
Tony Jay
@Cameron:
Cold blooded √
Treats scientists as the enemy √
Eats chocolate pudding flavoured with gerbil without using a spoon √
I guess so.
JR
Francis Buxton vibes very strong with Desantis
Another Scott
Entertaining anecdotes, but they don’t matter to the GQP voters.
How is Fox News and talk radio and the prosperity gospel preachers and all the rest of the echo chamber covering him? That’s what matters to the GQP race.
:-\
Cheers,
Scott.
Trivia Man
@Betty Cracker: why not during the interview? Audio only so musky can fill the awkward silence while argh looks for the signature line. Then they can discuss how much Florida loves him – “if they didn’t love me, why are they so eager to help me leave?”
citizen dave
Seen this 3-4 times now, so cringey. (Had to look up Francis Buxton–never saw the movie). For me, he reminds me of comedian John Mulaney. (I go hot and cold on Mulaney) Same swarmy voice, same “I’m not sure if he is being sarcastic or not” vibe. Also my gaydar (not that there’s anything wrong with that) goes off often with deSantis. In his mind he is John Wayne/Ronald Reagan/Arnold/the Rock, while we all see a very socially inept man, who may be living a lie or two. It’s amazing how various types of pond scum become governors in our states…
OzarkHillbilly
Worse even than FTX, as for Fox, Twitter, and Facebook, I am not surprised.
Worst in trust. And yet, we can be certain that somewhere around 47% of Americans will vote for him anyway.
Betty Cracker
@Trivia Man: The statehouse machinations are as fascinating as they are destructive. I try to avoid assuming complex plots are unfolding behind the scenes when simple stupidity suffices as an explanation. But sometimes it’s hard to tell wtf is going on.
Cameron
@citizen dave: Sort of a Nazi Walter Mitty?
Cameron
@Tony Jay: What sealed the deal for me was seeing that photo of him imitating laughter. He looked like he was getting ready to swallow the other guy’s head.
Ken
Hasn’t he already been doing that for nearly a year?
SFAW
I disagree.
He’s certainly grown on me.
In the way that an untreatable tropical fungus has grown on me.
different-church-lady
“Okay Governor, we need to work on this a bit before your next stop. Jim here is going to help you rehearse. Pretend Jim is a guy in a diner.”
“Hi there! What’s your name, Jim?”
“No, no, pretend you don’t know his name.”
“Hi there! What’s your name?”
“Jim.”
“Okay!” [moves on]
“No, wait, now ask Jim a question.”
“Okay uh.. Jim, you’re not one of those trans, are you?”
“What?”
“Because we’re going to get all the trans out of Florida, and then we’re gonna get all the trans out of America!”
“GOVERNOR, DO NOT SAY THAT TO JIM!”
“Why? Does Jim hate America?”
“DO NOT SAY THAT TO ANYONE!!!”
SFAW
@Tony Jay:
Hmm, it sounds like we HAVE met. But I don’t remember going to Old Blighty; have you visited Taxachusetts?
Ken
@OzarkHillbilly: I’m surprised the Trump Org made the list of “100 most visible”. I suppose infamous is a kind of famous.
I am a little curious whether the Axios report has a brief blurb about what each company does, and if so, what they put down for the Org. “Means of concealing bribes from foreign oligarchs by making them look like rental of overpriced real estate”?
different-church-lady
@Tony Jay: Hell, Joe would buy DeSantis a burger and give him insider tips on how to do retail politics right.
Van Buren
I am curious about how a law saying the guv has to resign to run for president would be enforced.
Steeplejack
@different-church-lady:
😹
different-church-lady
@SFAW: In Massachusetts, every stranger is just an arsehole you haven’t learned to avoid yet with your car.
NotMax
@different-church-lady
“What’s a diner?”
Another Scott
In the Information is Power / Random Data is Noise front, I noticed today that my resting heart rate is finally back to normal (mid-60s) this week, about 2 months post-COVID. Meaningful? Who knows…
Cheers,
Scott.
Mousebumples
@Betty Cracker:
I’d ask if it was bipartisan (I’d think FL Dems would welcome DeSantis ignoring the state for 18 months), but I’m guessing there’s other not-great stuff in the bill beyond that.
different-church-lady
@NotMax:
“You were just in a diner, Governor.”
“Okay. Never take me in a diner again.”
Tony Jay
@Cameron:
That’s perilously close to kink-shaming, but on reflection I’m going to allow it on the grounds that not even the most Germanic ‘Explorers of the Boundaries of Pleasure’ in the whole of Germany would consent to being gobbled on by something as unnatural as RoDS.
@different-church-lady:
RoDS places whole hand over Jim’s face.
“GOVERNOR, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!?”
“I’m ‘pressing the flesh’. Is this the wrong flesh?
RoDS begins fiddling with Jim’s belt.
“JESUS CHRIST IN… GOVERNOR, NO!!”
RoDS stares at his own hand, places it over his own face.
(muffled) “Better?”
“……………YES.”
rikyrah
The only thing DeathSantis has is that he is unrepentant in his cruelty. That, of course, is red meat for the GOP base.😒
OzarkHillbilly
@NotMax: It’s a place where NYT writers go to interview the “white working class” that are the back bone of the country.
Ken
@OzarkHillbilly: Don’t forget that they go at 10 in the morning, the time when working-class people can be found sitting in diners.
NotMax
@Tony Jay
“I keep seeing ‘Live Free or Die’ on the license plates. That first part is ultra-woke. Get rid of it. No problem with the second part. Keep that, it’s catchy.”
Tony Jay
@SFAW:
I flew over it once while trapped in the trunk of Mr Musk’s Space Car (won that bet), but given how utterly terrible Old England is now I’m sure that even the New Coke version would be an improvement.
trnc
Remember how Hillary was excoriated for not making more personal visits to a few states? Watch Puddin’ Ron be advised to avoid more personal visits and see NYT call it smart politics.
rikyrah
@NotMax:
If Joe Biden does that to him….
Oh JoeyB 🤗
WaterGirl
@Tony Jay:
That paints a perfect picture.
WaterGirl
@Amir Khalid:
My money is on spittle, not smoke. But we are in total agreement otherwise.
cmorenc
My informal survey of friends/associates etc. who are regular voters but otherwise not highly engaged political junkies indicates that a critical factor in 2024 will be how many of them will vote third party instead of the major D or R party their tendencies might otherwise incline them to vote for. I know we BJers are very supportive of Biden, but it’s discouraging the extent to which the public is very under-enthused about Biden, even while also being thoroughly repelled by Trump. And so, our theory is that should DeSantis get the nomination, he will be too repulsive to beat Biden, once the public gets sufficiently familiar with him. I sure hope that’s true, because my impression is that enough of the public is hungry for someone new, and if either party put forth a seemingly attractive, reasonable-seeming fresh candidate, he/she would stand a good chance of winning – which right now, it doesn’t seem the public is going to get – it’s going to be Biden vs Trump or DeSantis, and the third-party snake-oil charm may work on a significant sector of voters, and whether they drain more marginal D vs R voters. Even if the % who actually end up voting 3p is in the 3 to 5% range, that could be critical (see Clinton 2016, Gore 2000).
WaterGirl
@Van Buren: Not allow their name to be placed on the ballot?
Tony Jay
@different-church-lady:
And it still wouldn’t do him any good. The cholesterol burger would have a better chance of killing off Trump than RoDS.
He’s toast. Damp, inedible toast.
@NotMax:
Pop Quiz – Which punctuation marks are required to turn this into the multiple choice question that should be asked outside every Coldplay gig?
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: That’s a big deal. So glad to hear it!
Dorothy A. Winsor
The WP is reporting that
“An analysis of book challenges from across the nation shows the majority were filed by just 11 people”
Every news story about these bans should include that bit of information
WaterGirl
@Tony Jay: LOL. Really.
JWR
Matt Gaetz says the quiet part out loud.
NotMax
@Dorothy A. Winsor
And not a one who claimed reading them cover to cover migrated to Team Gay.
//
eclare
@citizen dave:
I have never understood the appeal of John Mulaney, I don’t find him funny at all, just awkward. Interesting comparison.
eclare
@Another Scott:
A good friend of mine also had heart rate problems with covid. It would shoot up to 130 for no reason.
Tony Jay
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
But, but, but, grassroots activism! Concerned parents! Children’s minds!
How the national Media missed that little titbit of information for so long is… what’s the word? Unsurprising.
Wanderer
@Betty Cracker: “I try to assume… stupidity will suffice” is a marvelous sentence. I nominate it as a rotating tag line.
Scout211
SB7050 was sent to the Governor yesterday. Senate Bill 7050.
different-church-lady
@JWR: “We have a hostage, and if we don’t get everything we want we’re going to start shooting the bystanders.”
SFAW
@different-church-lady:
“Learned to avoid”? Fuck that, we AIM for ’em.
SFAW
@OzarkHillbilly:
Oh, SO close! Only off by a foot or two.
JCJ
@Another Scott: Autonomic dysfunction following COVID?
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmed.2022.1095249/full
A cardiologist I know had significant problems with this. She is fairly young and was unable to work for several months
SFAW
@Van Buren:
One would hope it would include a SWAT team and snipers.
Anne Laurie
We just watched PUSS IN BOOTS: THE LAST WISH (highly recommended, for grownups, at least). Mulaney voices the repulsive, grasping villain, Big Jack Horner — he makes a very convincing “dead inside” businessman!
sdhays
@cmorenc: RoDS is not going to be the Republican nominee for President, even if Trump chokes on his KFC tomorrow. He’s a Florida version of Scott Walker – great on paper, but really just an awful candidate. And that’s unfair to Scott Walker who was mostly just boring rather than repellent.
I think Tim Scott, of all people, has a better chance of being the nominee in a sans-Trump primary than DeSantis at this point. At some point, you need some people liking you because they like you, not because they were told to. Even DeSantis’ donors hate him – and they know he can’t stand being with them as well.
JWR
@different-church-lady: Truly. And I forget, how did Biden start “negotiating” with these economic terrorists again? I wasn’t overly nervous about the initial, informal talks, but now, it’s as if McCarthy’s in the Oval Office every day, “negotiating” with Biden, looking all grownup for TV news, and “all grown up” is something he ain’t.
Betty Cracker
@cmorenc: That tracks with what I hear in the wild too — we are outliers here. Also, the multimillionaire Beltway press celebrities who focus on Biden’s age a lot now will push that theme incessantly if DeSantis is the nominee. “Generational change” blah blah blah. DeSantis is repellent, but they’ll do their best to level the playing field.
Raoul Paste
I’d be surprised if a televised debate involving Trump and DeSantis ever occurs. Even if DeSantis is coached with planned responses, Trump will destroy him.
Trump can really get personal , and if DeSantise reacts badly, well, the campaign commercials write themselves
Kathleen
@Amir Khalid: Along with the baby bird blood dripping from the head he bit off when he was in the men’s room
ETA: Hey! Soulless ghouls gotta get nourishment from somewhere.
Betty Cracker
@Mousebumples: You guessed correctly. The bill also imposes even more onerous restrictions on third-party voter registration outfits, makes it harder to vote by mail and makes individuals responsible for determining their voter eligibility status rather than the state.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
So if you cast an ineligible vote, is it your responsibility to prosecute the case against yourself?
Shalimar
@Amir Khalid: I really don’t think DeSantis has ever actually campaigned before. I didn’t follow his House races, but his gubernatorial campaigns have consisted of TV commercials and lots of flitting around the state to every little small town for 10 minute announcements of some local expenditure of state funds. He didn’t answer questions. He didn’t hold events like a normal politician lives on. He’s all marketing and no personal touch. I don’t see how he is going to sustain a presidential campaign.
Kathleen
@different-church-lady: He’d first have to tutor him on how to eat the hamburger. I suspect DaSatan is uncomfortable around cooked meats.
Betsy
In the diner — first encounter with Actual Voter who’s been clearly waiting to meet him:
Voter: ”Hi, I’m Tim Actualvoter!”
Desnacktis: ”Okay”
Voter: “How ya doing?”
Dontlikethis: “Great” (turns away)
p.a.
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
.
Dorothy A. Winsor
MAY 24, 2023 AT 8:22 AMThe WP is reporting that
Also, that Bill Donohue’s “Catholic League” apparently consists of exactly one person: Pope Bill.
James E Powell
@cmorenc:
I am sorry if this offends, but anyone who votes for a third party is an asshole or an idiot. This includes the family members of the third party candidate.
James E Powell
@Shalimar:
He still owns the hearts of the political press. That’s not nothing. If they find another shiny object, he will be done.
Kay
Very thorough analysis of 2022. This is the big news:
The other “big news” is women. Democrats picked up some non college white women: +4 for that group from 2020. They made the difference in MI, WI and PA.
Baud
@Kay:
👍
Kay
If we saw non college white women diverge further from non college white men it could get really interesting. They’re already almost 10 apart.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@James E Powell: Hard disagree. That third party candidate might mobilize voters who will vote for more.viable.candidates downballot but who may otherwise have stayed home.
Hell, if they somehow managed to mobilize like 60 or 70 percent of non-voters, they’d win.
You shouldn’t vote third party just as a protest and you should weigh the potential consequences and you should pay attention to the rest of the goddamn ballot, up to and including your sole 3rd party choice being for local office. The local office option is something more 3rd party folk should be looking at, as well as community service.
What’s important is you should be voting.
Kay
@Baud:
I think the “sticking” is what’s new- consistency. They don’t seem to be as vulnerable to swings like an overhyped “red wave”. I wonder if it’s because they consume less “horserace” media. They’re all on Tickety Tock :)
p.a.
@Kay: Hence the newest targets in the conservative “how to keep X from voting” sweepstakes.🤬
Baud
@Kay:
The GOP usually attack minority groups but they’ve lately really gone after women and young people. Hopefully, those groups will continue to respond accordingly.
Kay
@p.a.:
Right I love their new candidate. Just announces he plans to disenfranchise 50 million people, which is apparently just fine on the Right.
If they continue to stick and get in the habit of voting for Democrats it wil be hard for the Right to unstick them.
Miss Bianca
@different-church-lady: LOL, this needs to be on SNL. (Is that even a thing anymore, in terms of pop culture? I dunno, I am An Old, after all.)
Altho’ even when I was A Young you could hardly accuse me of having my finger on the pulse of pop culture.)
Kay
@p.a.:
Americans for Prosperity has a really slick ad on you tube. It’s a very diverse group of young people knocking doors and the lines are like “change the country!” – so deliberately vague with no indication that they are on the Right or any mention of their policy.
They’re all such liars. It’s just deception as standard practice.
Kay
@Baud:
Some of the movement Left for young people is because young people are much more diverse than older people, but this analysis says that’s not the whole story- white young people have moved Left too.
Kay
@p.a.:
It’s amazing what just a little jump can do in certain areas. + 4 white non college women from 2020 makes the difference in a MI and PA midterm. They’re still only at 44% for Democrats, but that’s better than 40% and it’s all they needed.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@Miss Bianca: Whether SNL is hip and current aside, that’s structured very well for SNL and creates a lot of room to revisit and play with the idea.
Baud
@Kay:
It’s amazing to witness how much effort is put into discouraging the non-right to not ally with us.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: I provided a more coherent answer to your query in the last night’s thread about the origin of the word Arya in yesterday’s late night thread
Betty Cracker
@Kay: Fascinating — thanks for the link!
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Thanks!
JML
@eclare: I’m not a fan of Mulaney either. I couldn’t sit through his netflix specials (tried a couple because he came recommended and I like stand-up). lot of smarm, lot of “if you don’t agree with me you’re stupid” it seemed to me.
The Thin Black Duke
DeSantis is Florida’s George Wallace.
Omnes Omnibus
@The Thin Black Duke: IIRC Wallace was a good retail politician. DeSantis is not.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@Omnes Omnibus: Fonus on marketing v retail politics can be attributed to the decade.
WaterGirl
@Wanderer: It would be a good one, but it needs to be shorter.
Ken
@Kay: That just means the Republicans will be looking for ways around both the 19th and 26th amendments. I would have said it unlikely, but look how well they’ve done with the 15th.
UncleEbeneezer
Color me shocked (pun intended).
tam1MI
Remember how the press went on and on and on about how Hillary had problems with “likeability”? Watch them studiously ignore the fact that Ron is the second most hateable person in politics today.
Matt McIrvin
@Kay:
Which leaves disenfranchising them, arresting them, killing them, or driving them out of the state/country. Lots of options.
West of the Rockies
(Mo)Ron DeSantis. That is all.
Delk
Maybe instead of banning drag he should hire a drag queen to teach him how to work the room.
Geminid
A fun Turkish election fact: 20% of the people elected to the National Assembly on May 14 are women. The proportion of women elected has been steady rising since 2007, when it was only 9%. Now its the highest ever.
Omnes Omnibus
@Delk: Who would take the job?
Delk
@Omnes Omnibus: Marcus Bachmann
narya
@Kay: I keep thinking of the ONE photo I saw of the TFG CNN debacle–the women were NOT smiling, NOT cheering or clapping or standing, even as men were gleefully doing all of that in the same shot. That keeps getting ignored (what? ignore what women think? NO!)–but these were TFG supporters in the past. I’ll bet you a fermented beverage that, everything else being equal, that spread will increase in 2024.
Omnes Omnibus
@Delk:
Well played.
The Thin Black Duke
@Omnes Omnibus: Good point, Omnes. Still, Wallace was never able to step up to a larger political stage, in spite of his good old boy redneck charisma. Thankfully, DeSantis is awful in front of a camera and audiences that aren’t paid stooges, which ain’t good if you’re trying to make the sale.
zhena gogolia
Cauvin does Musk & DeSantis. He’s starting to get Ron’s laugh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky7R7J1NzyQ
ETA: especially at the end!
karen marie
@sukabi: It’s been passed (“May 23, 2023: Signed by Officers and presented to Governor“), presumably DeSantis will sign it when he gets back from campaigning out of state.
He’s such an asshole.
karen marie
@eclare: Thank you. He had some skit show a shortish while back – on Netflix? I watched part of it because twitter was gushing over it. It was awful. A whole lot of “look at me” and nothing else. Whoever told him he’s a comedian is the funny guy.
Gravenstone
@Tony Jay: Dear god man, I’m at work! I can’t be laughing like this…
Paul in KY
@Sebastian: This human potential voting entity has a personal identifier. Confirms initial proximity vectoring analysis. Further scans indicate potential voting entity ‘Tim Anthony’ is edible…
Paul in KY
@James E Powell: Agreed! (Except if you were going to vote GQP, but voted Libertarian instead. In that case, right on!!!)