Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Nikki Haley, who can’t acknowledge ‘slavery’, is a pathetic shill.

It looks like winning debates is a black job!

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

ha ha ha! Nice try weird people.

It’s easier to kill a dangerous animal than a man who just happens to have different thoughts/values than one’s own.

Second rate reporter says what?

Whatever happens next week, the fight doesn’t end.

“What are Republicans afraid of?” Everything.

Boeing: repeatedly making the case for high speed rail.

No Justins, No Peace

The republican speaker is a slippery little devil.

I also would like a pony to improve my balloon juice experience.

In after Baud. Damn.

Only Democrats have agency, apparently.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

Republicans don’t lie to be believed, they lie to be repeated.

The revolution will be supervised.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

A thin legal pretext to veneer over their personal religious and political desires.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

This isn’t Democrats spending madly. This is government catching up.

Glad to see john eastman going through some things.

If you are in line to indict donald trump, stay in line.

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Hopefully someone cooler than me will know the backstory for this!

I have to agree with the folks at MeidasTouch on this one – Maxwell Frost is the coolest congressman, and it’s not even close!

 

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  2. 2.

    tokyokie

    My congressman used to be Martin Frost, but despite the same surname, he wasn’t nearly as cool.

  4. 4.

    Omnes Omnibus

    I know that Hayley Williams did just tell fans that, if they vote for DeSantis, they are dead to her. This all may be related. This Paramore song may resonate with many Juicers.

  8. 8.

    trollhattan

    Texas: “Hey California, how you like us now? Hurr-hurr!”

    Sacramento-area religious congregations are seeking donations after 16 migrants from Venuzuela and Colombia were flown from El Paso, Texas, to Sacramento and dropped off Friday in front of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Sacramento’s offices in Curtis Park.

    “The group had been promised jobs and put on a plane from Texas. Upon arriving, they had no idea where they were, and had only a backpack’s worth of belongings,” according to an email from Sacramento ACT, a collaboration of area religious congregations seeking donations for the migrants. The group was seeking clothing, toiletries, food, legal support, Spanish-speaking volunteers and transportation for the migrants. According to Sacramento ACT, after being processed at the border, the migrants were approached by “individuals representing a private contractor” who said they would assist them with getting to a migrant center where they would find jobs and free support.

    The migrants, upon arriving in Sacramento, had no idea where they were, Sacramento ACT said. The group said that the migrants all have pending court appearances, and that by transporting them to California under false pretenses, there will be a disruption in their legal due process.

    “What has occurred recently with the deceiving drop off of our undocumented brothers and sisters into the Sacramento area grieves my heart. This political polarizing act is heartbreaking and yet I rejoice that I am part of a movement that brings the love of God and goodwill upon the injustices and political wickedness that impacts our vulnerable brothers and sisters,” said the Rev. Efrem Smith, Sacramento ACT president, in a statement.

    Rabbi Mona Alfi, of Congregation B’nai Israel, said that what happened to the migrants was “a moral travesty” and that “these are human beings, no different than you or me, who simply want to take care of their families and live a peaceful life, and they deserve to be treated better.”

    Eddie Carmona, director of campaigns for PICO California, a faith-based community organizing group, said in a statement that the migrants “are members of our families, communities, and part of the fabric of our state.” This is not the first time that migrants have been flown to California’s capital.

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article276070496.html#storylink=cpy

    Southern hospitality.

  9. 9.

    smith

    @Jeffg166: Any calls for decorum from the very serious people are going to sound a little hollow after our having to endure the daily antics of the Treason Caucus.

  15. 15.

    Omnes Omnibus

    BTW Rishi turmeric and ginger tea with club soda makes a good mocktail.

  23. 23.

    bbleh

    @Baud: The Times convened a panel of under-35 voters to discuss the issue, and while responses were mixed, several agreed that this potentially might maybe hurt Biden in the general election.

    @Omnes Omnibus: but with a half-smile and a dismissive wave of the hand.

  29. 29.

    smith

    @bbleh: Give credit where credit is due: It was really difficult to scare up enough under 35 voters in those Ohio diners.

  33. 33.

    HeleninEire

    I saw this earlier and I didn’t have a clue. I think that he is the FL Congressperson who, when he won, could not afford an apartment in DC and couldn’t get credit because he spent every penny he had on his campaign. I think I may be right about that.

    That band? No, no, no clue at all. I am an OLD.

  37. 37.

    Librarian

    Of course, Max Frost was the name of the main character in the 1968 movie Wild in the Streets. He was the rock star who became president. When he was elected, that movie was the first thing I thought of.

  41. 41.

    Jeffro

    Frost rocks!

    Comedian Brent Terhune is on fire…well actually, he’s roasting Mike Pence for showing up to Joni Ernst’s “Roast and Ride” in biker gear(!)…here’s a couple gems:

    • “Mike Pence gets heartburn from mayonnaise”
    • “I’d say Mike is “Born to be Mild’ but we all know ‘mild’ is TOO SPICY for Mike”
    • “Mike is like if a glass of milk was a person”
    • “He’s like a wolf in bikers’ clothing”
    • “You know his inner monologue’s gotta be like, ‘maybe if I dress like them, they won’t want to hang me anymore’ “
    • “You know the back of that biker vest says, ‘if you can read this, Mother fell off’ “

    LOLOL

  42. 42.

    HeleninEire

    @Omnes Omnibus: Same. I am quoting someone else…don’t know who…but my favorite saying now is…”I am too old to be young, but I am too young to be old.”

    And that’s great. I have the best of both worlds.

  46. 46.

    Jeffro

    Side note: I know of/have listened to Paramore, I’m not a huge fan but like them ok.

    I thought to myself, “I think they’ve been around for oh eight years?”  (translation: it’s hasn’t been TOO long since I first heard them/I’m not THAT old, right?)

    Googled it.

    OMG they will be celebrating their 20th anniversary as a band next year…

  49. 49.

    Tenar Arha

    @Jeffro: lol, that’s what I said!

    ETA you wanna know the worst thing— I figured out I’d never seen Foo Fighters in concert by figuring out when they were founded & suddenly felt very old.

  53. 53.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    De Santis tried to wax Churchillian in Iowa. It’s almost like he got hold of a half-written SNL skit and thought, Hey, this is great!

    Acyn @Acyn

    DeSantis: As president, I recognize that the woke mind virus represents a war on the truth so we will wage a war on the woke. We will fight the woke in education, we will fight the woke in corporations, we will fight the woke in the halls of congress.

    Even allowing for Florida, it’s hard to believe that man won statewide

  55. 55.

    bbleh

    @smith: The Times is puzzled why some people think the patrons eating breakfast at 10:30 at a random diner in Ohio are not representative of the Heartbeat of America.  We convened a panel of lunch patrons at a diner in Indiana to discuss the issue.

  57. 57.

    trollhattan

    @Tenar Arha: ​Think that’s bad? Last weekend we watched Elvin Bishop and Charlie Musselwhite. Downtown was kinda busy for the night of a geezer show, turned out on account of somebody name “Lizzo” playing at the arena.

    No buyer’s remorse for me.

  58. 58.

    smith

    @WaterGirl:  Shades of W in the flight suit and Dukakis in the tank! They never learn, do they?

    Now I want to see TFG dressed as a WWE fighter (No, no, not really)

  62. 62.

    kalakal

    @WaterGirl:

    oh that is pathetic 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    To butch up his image I hear he’s going to star in a remake of The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Working title The Georgetown Hedgetrimmer Mishap

  69. 69.

    Jeffro

    @WaterGirl: ha!

    he did not deserve to be hung on J6, but after seeing that pic…

    …I’m just trying to keep it in perspective, is what I’m saying.

     

    (maybe DOUBLE mayo on his next sandwich, for DOUBLE the heartburn…that seems appropriate.  maybe)

  72. 72.

    glc

    @Omnes Omnibus: A very good plan indeed! That seems to settle matters.

    (My answer to the question would just have been “Yes.” – a fair bet in most such cases.)

  75. 75.

    smith

    @WaterGirl:  I don’t care, do U?

    Thing I want to know is why her hubby is dressed in a boring ol’ checked shirt — shouldn’t he be dripping in leather and studs?

  77. 77.

    Jeffro

    @WaterGirl: Ron’s going to have to deal with his ‘tribe’ fawning all over Casey for the next year, and by ‘deal with’, I mean he will almost certainly not deal well with that.

    Nickel bet on the first, “Run Casey, not Ron!” op-ed piece in the somewhat-mainstream RWNJ media?  I’m going to guess…next week!  LOL

  78. 78.

    trollhattan

    @WaterGirl: ​ Just missing the matching leather cape. :-)

    Self-awareness is not big with these people. “Woke” having no meaning, is not any better than covfefe as a slogan to wrap your campaign around.

    “Where retirees go to die” would be both ironic and sardonically humorous.

  79. 79.

    Tenar Arha

    @Jeffro: It was a Good Festival Day 1 finale. Enough so I got one of their FF tour t-Shirts, which says on the back “But Here We Are 2023”

    Probably the newest/youngest band I saw at the festival was The Linda Lindas, remember those adorable young punks from the library mid-pandemic?

  80. 80.

    trollhattan

    @Jeffro: Hate to say it but it’s clear that while Meatball loves being in front of a camera, Tacky O is actually polished there. Needs to cut way back on the Addereall, though and god, those fvcking clothes.

  82. 82.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @WaterGirl: Just wear jeans and tee shirt/polo shirt.  Bikers know you aren’t one of them, so why pretend?  If you do ride*, just wear what you would regularly wear.  It not that fucking hard.

    *Pence manifestly does not.

    @smith: He actually got it almost right.  Probably by accident.

  84. 84.

    scav

    @trollhattan: FL’s got bigger ambitions than just retirees — between gun-policy, building regs, vaccination-aversion and forced pregnancy, they’re aiming to kill loads more and that’s before drowning as many as possible.

  86. 86.

    kindness

    Casey seems to revel in the attention she’s getting.  I find her tacky as hell.  She thinks she’s gonna be a queen but I think she’ll never rise above groupie.

  89. 89.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    does Casey De Santis have a fan base? I admit I’m in an MSNBC-ish media silo, but from what I can see, his campaign is straining to make her a thing, or else pushing the notion that “she should be on the cover of Vogue!” as something to add to the grievance list

  93. 93.

    Jeffro

    @Tenar Arha: Linda Lindas = RAWK!!1!

    My kids know I am always interested in new music, so they play me stuff, and I’m like, “where. are. the. grinding. electric. guitars. and. pounding. bass??”  ah well

  94. 94.

    WaterGirl

    @trollhattan: These people have no substance.  Just anger, hate and a desire for power.

    So they play dress-up.  It’s not about wanting to serve, or about helping people.  It’s looking the part so they can get the power they want.

    It’s just so ugly, and there is an epidemic of that in the Republican party.

  95. 95.

    Jeffro

    @Omnes Omnibus: Just wear jeans and tee shirt/polo shirt.  Bikers know you aren’t one of them, so why pretend?

    I have to both second and third this.  Just be yourself and maybe even poke fun at it a bit:

    Version 1: “I was going to do this in my usual suit and tie, but I thought I’d go all-out with my rebel self” (suit jacket, shirt, tie, and…jeans)

    Version 2: “I know this isn’t going to cut it – I only ride a few times a year – but I swear this is the most ‘biker’ polo shirt I own”

    It’s not that hard, Mike!

  97. 97.

    Tony Jay

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    That’s a joke, right? He can’t have actually said that, because even a third-rate Wallace clone like RoDS couldn’t be stupid enough to burble out what’s clearly a Hitler speech with ‘Jew’ replaced by ‘Woke’.

  102. 102.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    Driving that train
    High on cocaine
    Casey DeathSantis you better
    Watch your speed
    Trouble ahead
    Trouble behind
    And you know that notion
    Just crossed my mind

  103. 103.

    WaterGirl

    @cope: I’m gonna guess that he carries a tiny one on his keychain that he pulls out every time someone makes that joke.

    When I taught human sexuality, i must have heard the same joke 1,000 times: “Those who can’t do, teach!”

  104. 104.

    Tony Jay

    Also, too, before tonight I was vaguely aware that Paramore existed, but I’d never heard anything by them. Now I like their back catalogue, think Hayley Williams is wonderfully hot and applaud the fuck out of their in your face politics.

    Which is nice.

  106. 106.

    Jeffro

    btw OT but enjoyable (and maybe important): Senate GOP not thrilled about having to rubber-stamp McCarthy’s debt-ceiling bill

    Did Senate Republicans regret outsourcing the negotiations to McCarthy?

    “I probably better not comment on that,” Sen. John Thune (S.D.), the No. 2 GOP leader in the chamber and a big supporter of the Pentagon, told reporters Thursday.

    “Do I regret that decision? That wasn’t my decision,” said Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, the top Republican on the Appropriations Committee.

    Indeed, Collins was one of just six Republicans to not sign a letter that effectively told Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) that McCarthy had their proxy and they were united “behind the House Republican” position in the talks.

    To his credit, McConnell stuck to his word and immediately embraced the Biden-McCarthy deal, repeatedly praising it. He rounded up enough GOP votes to overcome a filibuster attempt from his own ranks.

    “Nobody gets everything they want,” he said during a floor speech on Wednesday. “But in this case, it means the American people got a whole lot more progress toward fiscal sanity than Washington Democrats wanted to give them.”

    McConnell made several similar moves in 2019 and 2020, when he deferred to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin as they negotiated a debt-ceiling-and-budget deal, a new North American trade deal and an early coronavirus pandemic response measure.

    Each time, Senate Republicans expressed outrage after Pelosi, a negotiating legend, won major concessions from Mnuchin, an investment banker and Hollywood producer with no prior experience in government.

    This time, with a Democratic president and a Republican speaker, Senate Republicans ended up with the same bitter taste.

    We all know McConnell is a snake, but he’s a snake with pretty good instincts, and he knew that a) McCarthy was dealing with vipers of his own and b) despite the “both sides” media’s best attempts, Republicans would be held accountable for any default.  Nevertheless, it’s good to see that the Senate Rs’ brightest lights were peeved by the lunacy in their own party!

  108. 108.

    kalakal

    @WaterGirl:

    Mike Pence – Rolling Blunder

    All that effort and I bet the fly is still clinging on, untouched by the wind in his hairspray

  109. 109.

    Tony Jay

    @WaterGirl:

    Holy Fuckballs, even for a guy with resting coma face, Mike Pence has never looked more like a confused old fella who has no idea how he got on that man’s bike, but a fairly good idea of what Duke Iron Rod is going to do to him when he comes out of that truckstop toilet.

  110. 110.

    Jeffro

    @John S.: ye gods

    just remind her – no K-pop at breakfast, and whoever’s driving calls the radio station/Sirius/CD selection!

  111. 111.

    Tony Jay

    @WaterGirl:

    Oh, I do. In these fucked up times that’s genuinely dangerous, but some people just have the cocos to lay it out there and screw the backlash.

  113. 113.

    El Muneco

    Had a co-worker in the late 2000s – twentysomething male Asian software dev – who was a _massive_ Paramore fan and turned me on.

    Not only have they been together for 20 years, those 20 years have taken Hayley from age 16 to age 35. They’ve reinvented themselves several times, but I saw the video of their most recent work and although definitely different than “Misery Business” (the very early song that the Congressman joined them for), it’s still quite the banger.

  115. 115.

    Ken

    @Jeffro: McConnell made several similar moves in 2019 and 2020, when he deferred to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin

    Tell me you have no political skills other than obstruction, without saying that you have no political skills other than obstruction.

  116. 116.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    Pence rails against teh gay and then dress up like a member of The Village People

  117. 117.

    Kelly

    OT: My summer has begun. Just back from my second river swim of the season. First swim was yesterday. Our swimming hole is about a hundred yard from the house. We share access with a couple dozen neighbors on both sides of the river and in Oregon just about all rivers are public access if you travel via the water. Had the beach to ourselves which is the way it works out about half the time. Crystal clear 66 degrees. Warm enough for an active swim.

  118. 118.

    Jeffro

    @Ken: wait…so you didn’t get a copy of The Turtle’s “My Positive, Forward-Thinking Agenda for American Progress”?

    Why, you must have had your mailbox bolted shut and TV off for the past 16 years!  ;)

    LOLOL

  122. 122.

    WaterGirl

    @Tony Jay: You could dress Mike Pence up 7 different ways, and he couldn’t possibly appear less comfortable than he looks on the motorcycle.  Even in drag, he would seem more at home!

  125. 125.

    different-church-lady

    @WaterGirl: Look, this is just what they’re doing to win over the base for the primary. When they get to the general they’ll pivot further to the right.

  131. 131.

    Anoniminous

    Has anyone else noted the Bush family has evaporated from the GOP? Where is the JEB! of yesteryear?

  135. 135.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Anoniminous:

    Has anyone else noted the Bush family has evaporated from the GOP? Where is the JEB! of yesteryear? 

    The brush ain’t gonna clear itself at Warcriminal’s ranch.

  140. 140.

    Tenar Arha

    @Jeffro: LL yes! My joints cannot pogo anymore, but I was definitely bouncing on my toes & head banging.

    I figured a few local bands would get me newish music to me, so I tried to see a few bands every day on the Tivoli Audio Orange Stage. Anyway—for some loud guitars check out Summer Cult & Sorry Mom. I liked what I saw & heard of Mint Green on the Blue Stage too.

  141. 141.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Anoniminous: the cowardly silence of the Bush brothers low-key infuriates me, and the fact that almost no one calls them out on it

    also, that nobody talks about how much the ‘loss of trust in our institutions’ that enables trump is a result of the Bush presidency, especially but not only wrt Iraq

  143. 143.

    justawriter

    @schrodingers_cat: Not sure about chimps but …

    “If you’re under 35, and not passionately interested in health food, this one may go over your head. If so, count your blessings: Until very recently, a tribe of killer monkeys lived undetected beneath Greenwich village. To some extent it was not surprising that they escaped notice for so long. They had extremely odd sleeping habits, hibernating for 364 days out of every year (365 in Leap Years) and emerging from the caverns of the Village sewers only on Christmas Day. Even so, one might have thought they could hardly help but cause talk, since they tended when awake to be enormous, ferocious, carnivorous, and extremely hungry. Yet in Greenwich Village of all places on Earth they went unnoticed until last year, when they were finally destroyed. Everyone knows that Yule Gibbons ate only nuts and fruits…”
    ― Spider Robinson, Off the Wall at Callahan’s

  144. 144.

    dww44

    @Anoniminous: It’s more likely that the GOP left the Bushes.  Policy differences aside, I don’t believe they are wanna-be authoritarians or fascists. This cult and conspiracy loving  GOP is not the same party they were leaders of 15 short years ago.

  145. 145.

    dww44

    @NotMax:  What I remember is that George wanted to reside there but Laura didn’t and they took up residence in Dallas.

  146. 146.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @NotMax: I thought I had heard that too, but apparently they still use it as a vacation home

    @dww44: I think they’re still trying to make George P happen, and that’s why they’re so muted about trump. Jeb made what I think was supposed to be a splashy endorsement of DeSantis

  147. 147.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I didn’t know this was a thing, but apparently it’s not a thing anymore

    A retired pro wrestler has passed a paternity test proving he’s not the father of Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) – after decades of having been accused that he was by her mother, the Daily Beast reported Saturday.

    Boebert confirmed to the Daily Beast that she and a man who wrestled as “Stan Lane” both took DNA tests in the past month that confirmed he was not her father. Lane, whose real name is Wallace Stanfield Lane, had been the subject of a paternity suit and public accusations by her mother – Shawn Roberts Bentz – dating back to the mid-1980s […]

    “The Toby Keith song, ‘Who’s Your Daddy’ hits a bit differently now.”

  148. 148.

    Gvg

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Excuse me, but who care what torture President says? You think he is more respectable than Trump? He had enough awareness to know he should evaporate from public attention for a good long while. Saying bad things about Trump would just remind us the GOP has been sinking into hell territory for awhile, and it would not  check the scum. After all, he led them into a war that even they realized grudgingly had to be lost.

    Jeb flopped, and part of the reason was because he was George’s brother and people were sick of them.

  152. 152.

    Miss Bianca

    @WaterGirl: @trollhattan: I think personally I would have gone for “Where Woke Goes Back to Sleep”, but maybe that’s too subtle a jab for these intellectual midgets. (With all apologies to actual midgets.)

  153. 153.

    Paul in KY

    @Omnes Omnibus: Paramore has been one of my favourite bands for many years. Hayley is as cool as the day is long. If you ever get a chance to see them live…you’ll get your money’s worth.

  155. 155.

    Paul in KY

    @Tenar Arha: I saw them at a festival where they played before Nine Inch Nails. Thier mopey goth fans had been hanging there all day. By end of Paramore set, they were cheering like Hell for Paramore!

  160. 160.

    Paul in KY

    @Tony Jay: Tony, she is a tremendous and underrated performer. Have seen them 6 times and every one has been badass. Glad you have been appraised of them!

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