BREAKING: Trump’s lawyers just spotted by @CBSNews entering the Justice Department, per @RobLegare who is on site… comes as sources tell me the special counsel is moving toward a charging decision in the classified documents case
— Robert Costa (@costareports) June 5, 2023
I have lost track of the Trump attorneys. James Trusty seems like a joke, and I assume that Lindsey Halligan is the attorney is the female attorney that legal twitter said was apparently hired because she’s attractive and Trump likes to have her around.
Who is John Rowley? Can someone catch me up?
(CBS)
Attorneys representing former President Donald Trump — John Rowley, James Trusty and Lindsey Halligan — were at the Justice Department at around 10 a.m. Monday, weeks after Trump’s lawyers had requested a meeting with top federal law enforcement officials.
CBS News saw Trump’s legal team walking into the Justice Department. They did not speak as they entered the building in Washington, and they stayed for just under two hours. A person familiar with the meeting between Trump’s lawyers and the department said that Attorney General Merrick Garland did not attend.
Two people familiar with the probe said that Trump’s legal team is frustrated with how Justice Department officials have handled attorney-client matters in recent months and would likely raise their concerns on this front during Monday’s meeting, in particular, prosecutors’ discussions of related issues in front of the grand jury.
(NYT)
Lawyers for former President Donald J. Trump met on Monday at the Justice Department with officials, including the special counsel Jack Smith, two weeks after requesting a meeting to discuss their concerns about Mr. Smith’s investigations into Mr. Trump, according to two people familiar with the matter.
The meeting did not include Attorney General Merrick B. Garland or Lisa O. Monaco, the deputy attorney general, and it is unclear what precise subjects were discussed. But the visit came amid indications that prosecutors in the special counsel’s office were approaching the end of their inquiry into the former president’s handling of classified documents. It also came at a time when Mr. Trump’s advisers have concluded that there might not be much more time to stave off charges, the people said.
The lawyers — James Trusty, John Rowley and Lindsey Halligan — left the Justice Department after nearly two hours. They declined to speak to reporters.
Shortly after their visit, Mr. Trump posted a message on his social media platform, Truth Social, suggesting that his legal team had at least discussed with him the possibility that he could be indicted.
“How can DOJ possibly charge me, who did nothing wrong,” Mr. Trump wrote in all capital letters.
Oh, and if anyone wants to hear the folks at Lawfare (LIVE) at 3pm Eastern today:
Open thread.
JPL
trumps latest tweet SAD
Baud
I’m not going to predict if an when an indictment will drop, but if DOJ does indict before Fani Willis, some people on the internet will need to eat crow.
WaterGirl
@JPL: Shorter Trump:
HOW CAN THIS BE HAPPENING TO ME? CONSEQUENCES ARE FOR OTHER PEOPLE! I CAN DO ANYTHING I WANT.
I AM KING!I WAS KING, AND HOPE TO BE AGAIN. OFF WITH YOUR HEADS!
Ken
It’s the grammar police, isn’t it?
Frankensteinbeck
We’re back to the ‘perfect’ transcript and whether he sexually assaults women. There are things he’s just too god damn stupid and narcissistic to deny, because he thinks they prove how great he is. In this case, he is President so he is entitled to own classified documents!
EDIT – I do not trust this as an indicator of timing. Trump chose the meeting, not the DOJ.
JPL
@WaterGirl: Trump’s ego prevents him from making a deal like Petraeus did. He got a slap on the hand and probation, but admitted guilt. They would probably want trump not to run for office again. He’d rather fight it
NobodySpecial
I’d love to see it, but I’m not going to hold my breath waiting for it.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I would buy a ticket to watch that dinner!
JPL
@NobodySpecial: My uneducated guess is that the indictment is coming but he will be afforded special privileges. No orange jump suit for that guy.
Old School
From August 2022:
cain
haha – looks like Trump is quite displeased.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1665762038281322496
Roger Moore
@Baud:
The people who were loudest in their wrongness will never admit anything.
Hoodie
Rowley looks like another white collar defense guy like Trusty. Halligan may just be eye candy/pacifier for Trump, as her background doesn’t scream out anything to do with the subject matter of this investigation.
Baud
@cain:
The Deep State cares about evidence.
WaterGirl
@Frankensteinbeck: Trump didn’t choose this meeting.
He asked to speak to the manager, and he got neither Merrick Garland nor his second in command. He got the guy he wanted to complain about.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Orange Karen
cain
Not going to link – but Lindsey apparently has a photo of her in her underwear with some other ladies apparently it was part of her resume. I could only assume that there was some kind of marketing thing since one of the lady had a short tee that said “smoking kills”.
I think though there are two parts here:
She should be shamed for defending a sexual predator however.
Cameron
It’s gonna be the best indictment, very yooge and bigly.
OverTwistWillie
@JPL:
He’s not gonna quit while there’s still meat on the bone.
Scout211
@cain: @JPL:
Yes, complete with all his grammar mistakes, Trump sounds afraid, very afraid.
Someone had better lock up the ketchup.
WaterGirl
@Hoodie: Yes, apparently so. The attractive female who can calm Trump?
WaterGirl
@Cameron: Dare I say that the indictment will be PERFECT?
Anonymous At Work
@JPL: An indictment or even conviction does not stop the person from running for or winning office, including President. In theory, you can be President while also an inmate at a Supermax.
Worth repeating that James Madison designed our system in the Constitution under the assumption that there never could or would be political parties. He then formed the first political party to ratify the Constitution.
bbleh
Oh to have been a fly on the wall, either at that meeting watching the DOJ lawyers try not to crack smiles, or at the DOJ meeting afterward when they’re having fun writing the memorandum.
I guess my only question would be, to what extent did Trump’s lawyers show up because he ordered it and mumble their way through pro forma statements of his complaints and demands, and to what extent are they True Believers?
Nora
I love how they felt the need to point out that Merrick Garland didn’t attend the meeting. Hello, guys, Smith is a SPECIAL COUNSEL chosen deliberately to insulate Garland from anything to do with the prosecution of this case, and so of course he didn’t attend the meeting. It would be nice if the Times mentioned that in context, but I’m not holding my breath.
terraformer
I am so sick and tired of this person; won’t someone please arrest this dotard and remove him from our collective reality
coin operated
@JPL:
Agreed. I don’t care if he ever wears a jumpsuit the same tone as his skin bronzer…I’ll be satisfied if he’s barred from holding office ever again. Keep his stubby little fingers off the levers of power for the rest of his miserable life.
Scout211
From the CBS news article:
This has to irk Trump. He has no idea how to respond when someone in power pays no attention to him. LOL
jonas
The lawyers can whine to DOJ all they want, but it was a federal judge that compelled them to testify because it was clear that they had been — wittingly or unwittingly — used by Trump to further his crimes (obstruction, etc.) relating to the document case. I’m sure Trump ordered them to march into Smith’s office and swear and pound the table and everything. And because they don’t want to be hit by a bunch of flying ketchup and half-drunk Coke cans again when the meet with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, they’re at least going through the motions.
trollhattan
@JPL: He’s Transitioned From random Caps to ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME NOW HOW DOES HE POSSIBLY GET SHOUTIER OTHER THAN THAT? ALL 🎋🎎🎟🎋🎍🎭🧵🎫🎗🎭 ALL THE TIME?
Also too GREATEST WITCH HUNT OF ALL TIME! continues to uncover an infinite supply of witches.
JPL
@Anonymous At Work: I meant if he agreed to a plea deal. That won’t happen because he would have to admit guilt.
WaterGirl
Really interesting conversation on Talking Feds last night. (actually, early this morning)
Harry Littman, Jason Kander, Jennifer Rubin, and a 4th guy whose name I don’t know but won a pulitzer for something in the last 6 years.
Some thought Trump could end up in prison. Some thought he would be confined to Trump Tower in NYC, not MaraLago.
Interesting comments by Jason Kander about Trump. Well worth an hour of my time.
Down to the wire.
trollhattan
@WaterGirl: PERFECT as the Werewolf of London’s hair.
mrmoshpotato
@terraformer:
I see I’m not the only one.
pat
Where does he get this crap about Biden having 1850 boxes? Does he just make that up?
JPL
I read that the grand jury is going to hear from another witness. I suppose that they could vote the same day, but possibly not.
piratedan
@coin operated: I’m in the “vindictive motherfucker” camp.
I have no issues using him as a cautionary example for all of the other crime faction party adherents.
Toss his ass in jail. He’s committed perjury, treason, threats, bribery, racketeering, assault.
fuck him and EVERYONE who allowed him to run amok.
Roger Moore
@JPL:
Not getting the orange jumpsuit isn’t some miraculous special privilege. If, as seems likely, Trump is let out on some kind of bail, he won’t (and shouldn’t) have to wear prison clothing. And, FWIW, defendants are normally allowed to wear nice clothes during their trials even if they’re kept in jail. Making them wear prison clothes to court is prejudicial since it may make the jury more likely to assume they’re guilty.
JPL
@WaterGirl: Couldn’t they accomodate trump’s secret service on a military base? What’s to stop trump from leaving the tower? If they won’t put him in jail, why not.
Geminid
@JPL: Also, Trump is intent on winning back the Presidency. I think that will keep him from making a deal. For Trump, the only way out is through.
mrmoshpotato
@WaterGirl: Do they implode Dump Tower NYC with him in it?
JPL
@pat: He does have the bigest brain.
WaterGirl
I cannot fathom why seemingly normal, successful attorneys from white shoe law firms take Trump on as a client.
it can’t be for the money. So what’s left of the big motivators? Sex? Money? Power? Fear? None of those make sense.
Hubris? They actually think that they can win what others can’t? Win the otherwise un-winnable?
True believers? How could someone like that possibly be a true believer?
I continue to be perplexed.
WaterGirl
@mrmoshpotato: That was not mentioned.
WaterGirl
@JPL: Like other non-violent prisoners, he could have to wear an ankle monitor, and if he violates that, he goes to prison. For real.
JPL
@Geminid: If he loses the nomintion, does Ronna make a deal with him to make sure a pardon is coming if he backs the candidate.
I full of ifs today. 😆
WaterGirl
@Geminid: Trump has no other option, so he is betting all his chips on the ONLY THING that could keep him out of prison.
The Talking Feds podcast discussion also covered whether he could self-pardon.
Jason Kander, I think, was the one who suggested that Vice President Kari Lake could pardon him.
Hoodie
@WaterGirl: Or keep him distracted so he doesn’t interfere with the defense. I doubt that really works, however. Trump is the type of client who likes to think of his lawyers as tools (usually a deniability shield) in some bigger game that doesn’t necessarily follow the law. That can be effective for the client in some cases, but it can suck for the lawyers and, in the case of Trump, often makes the lawyers culpable.
bk
Lindsey Halligan, per her bio, handles insurance claims. Great credentials.
bbleh
@WaterGirl: The only reasons I can come up with are (1) some of them are NOT “normal successful” attorneys at white-shoe firms but are instead less-successful-than-hoped backbenchers, failsons promoted over their talents, etc., and they think this is their shot at the Big Time and/or (2) some of them have a clientele (not all rich people are smart) who think it’s a good thing for someone to represent TFG, and they figure this will help their business.
WaterGirl
@JPL: Is that Ronna’s deal to make?
narya
@WaterGirl: Luke Broadwater, FNYT reporter. (I just listened to it myself!)
WaterGirl
@bk: Snort!
Anonymous At Work
@JPL: The DoJ wouldn’t offer him a deal he would accept, more accurately. He’s been given plea bargains in the past for racist rental practices or illegal money laundering at casinos but he never had to accept responsibility or pay more than a token fine and or give anything more substantial than a promise note to do it again (Narrator: He would do it again).
So, if he sent his attorneys there to bargain, they got laughed out of the room. “For January 6th, I’ll pay for the carpet cleaning services the next day. For the documents thing, I’ll comp any FBI agents that ordered meals at Mar-a-Lago.”
Baud
There is a trending reddit post about a UFO whistleblower. Could be the distraction police, or maybe all of our worldviews are about to change. Stay tuned!
SiubhanDuinne
I just clicked the link, and they’re now saying 3:30, not 3:00. So we have an extra half hour to speculate and savor.
Redshift
@JPL:
is confinement at some other location an option, or does it have to be either prison or home confinement? I honestly don’t know.
Old School
@pat:
Biden donated 1,850 boxes of his senatorial papers to the University of Delaware. Ted Cruz has said the FBI must search them to determine they don’t contain classified documents as the collection does not become public until two years after Biden retires from public life.
sdhays
@WaterGirl: That’s why I think it’s obvious that he’ll pick someone unquestionably loyal as his running mate this time. Dense was absurdly loyal, but not loyal enough to commit crimes without running it by Dan Quayle(!) first. Dump will choose someone crazy loyal, or else someone who convinces him they are crazy loyal.
Anonymous At Work
@bbleh: EGO. A failing in law school pedagogy is that “humility” is never taught. So, most of these white-shoe attorneys have massive egos and assume that they are waging a gigantic battle and will win accolades, etc.
More than a few will want to be so famous as to become named partners in their firm or a client list that lets them pick the richest and easiest cases for the rest of their lives.
S Cerevisiae
WHAR BOXES? BOXES HOAX!!
I love the smell of panicked flop sweat in the morning…
Redshift
@WaterGirl:
Unlike Netanyahu, I don’t believe that’s a big part of what TFG is doing (though I wouldn’t say he isn’t thinking about it at all.) He’s running to undo 2020 and not be a loser, because more than anything else that’s what he can’t abide. If he was motivated by staying out of prison, he could have easily avoided that in the classified documents case – just take any of the multiple opportunities he was afforded to give them back, and there wouldn’t have been more than a slap on the wrist, if that.
Redshift
@Old School: And since they’re not covered by the Presidential Records Act, they’re not US government property, unlike all the documents (classified and unclassified) that TFG kept.
trollhattan
How are these fuckers not violating federal laws, kidnapping and such?
Hoodie
@Anonymous At Work: From what I’ve witnessed, being a lawyer entails a great deal of emotional insecurity. Lawyers are often obsessed with getting clients and worry incessantly about losing clients and where the next client will come from. The big ego can come with some degree of success, which I guess is the inverse of the insecurity that comes before success, e.g., “I’m so wonderful because I’ve gotten all these clients.” However, getting clients (particularly the right kind) is often dependent on luck, who you know, branding of a particular law firm, etc.
cain
@Old School: it’s not even presidential stuff – just his time when he was a senator – and he hasn’t been a senator since 2007 or something like that. I think that’s like 16 years ago – I think we’re just fine.
Ted is more likely to leak shit than any Democrat.
trollhattan
@Old School: It’s all a misunderstanding, see, because those boxes are from 1850.
Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg
Halligan has only been in practice for 10 years, and doesn’t have a history regarding issues hat Trump faces. She should have declined the representation – politics and my own animus against Trump notwithstanding, this case really requires a seasoned pro with at least 20 years of high pressure experience. There are hundreds of senior litigators nationwide, male and female, who fit the bill. Trump being Trump, however, he wants a lickspittle who isn’t hard to look at.
Redshift
Possibly my favorite thing about TFG’s legal arguments (and yes, I know they’re really PR/political arguments) is his endless refusal to understand that accusing someone else of being an arsonist doesn’t have anything to do with whether they can arrest you for arson.
JaySinWA
@Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: It wouldn’t be the first less than qualified woman kept around as a Trump pacifier
ETA Which doesn’t mean she shouldn’t have declined.
cain
@bk: Egads.. I guess she must really enjoy the attention. She must get up on Fox News often.
Bill Arnold
Since it’s a open thread:
(All Colors Are Beautiful)
Matt McIrvin
@coin operated: This won’t do it. There is no bar on convicted criminals from serving as President. In principle he could be elected from his prison cell and pardon or commute himself out of there.
Maxim
@Baud: Poor crows. They deserve better.
Matt McIrvin
@Baud: There is a long, long history of exceedingly stupid stories about UFO whistleblowers.
Steeplejack
Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg
@JaySinWA:
I’d do it – even the bullshit political pedagogy – but I’d recognize that it would be the end of my career and require $5M in an evergreen nonrefundable advance fee that I’d immediately ship off to secure accounts elsewhere.
Baud
@Matt McIrvin: I know. But I’ve never seen them this excited! (Not that I’ve been looking.)
JPL
@Bill Arnold: Impressive. One of the comments had Anita Bryant with a save our kids poster.
I would love for someone to call Ron, Anita. You know Ron you remind be a lot of Anita Bryant.
JPL
@Steeplejack: 🤣🤣
Matt McIrvin
@Baud: The Air Force stuff a little while ago got a lot of normally fairly skeptical people going “GOVERNMENT ADMITS UFOS ARE REAL!!!” and, I think, mostly embarrassing themselves whether they realized it or not. And then the Chinese balloon hype fed into it.
WaterGirl
@Baud: UFO whistleblower???
WaterGirl
@SiubhanDuinne: Yes, it is starting as I am pressing Post Comment.
jonas
@WaterGirl: My impression is that, at this point, most of them are *not* top-tier lawyers and probably just see this as an easy way to get some attention, if only from other potential GOP clients.
mrmoshpotato
Hilariously random.
Eternal Silence at Atlas Obscura
trollhattan
How is this woman not a parody? “No parody, no parody, you’re the parody.”
Bullet dodged, Georgia, bullet dodged.
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1665545237673000961?cxt=HHwWgoC-jbekmp0uAAAA
HumboldtBlue
For those wondering about California’s response to the kidnapping of immigrants who have been flown to the state.
Ron DeSantis you small, pathetic man. This isn’t Martha’s Vineyard. Kidnapping charges?
California Gov. Gavin Newsom says an investigation is now underway in what the state’s attorney general likened to a “state-sanctioned kidnaping” where migrants in Texas were flown to Sacramento without warning.
Newsom calls DeSantis a ‘small, pathetic man’ amid questions over migrant flight
Baud
@Matt McIrvin: I’m not sure people feel embarrassment for what they believe nowadays.
@WaterGirl: How else would secrets be revealed?
mrmoshpotato
@Baud:
@WaterGirl: A UFO cut a corner during the intergalactic marathon and is disqualified. Too bad. So sad. Cheaters.
trollhattan
Robert Hanssen now a dead Soviet spy-traitor.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65816862
JoyceH
Typically, how much time elapses between the attorneys’ ‘please don’t indict our client’ meeting, and the actual charges? I’m selfishly hoping that they wait until Thursday – tomorrow a friend is coming down and Wednesday we’ll spend most of the date driving to and from our zipline adventure. I’m as eager for indictment as the next fellow, but on indictment day, all I want to do is order in pizza, plop down in front of the television and BASK.
As for Trump’s store-brand-generic-Tweet, how did those things become at least somewhat normalized? Why is there no Serious Pundit Discussion about what they say about Trump and his mental state? If the text of these SBGTweets were leaked as a conversation a person was having in the privacy of their own home, they would be a sign of significant derangement, but when you add on that he chooses to release these to the world as his official statements, that adds a whole new level of madness.
trollhattan
@HumboldtBlue: At least they’re mixing things up–the first flight landed 2 miles from my office and the second, 2 from my house. We have two more airports, so….
Baud
@JoyceH:
Trump isn’t a Democrat.
randy khan
@Nora:
The context is that Trump’s lawyers (in a letter probably dictated by Trump, given how it read) demanded a meeting with Garland and didn’t get it. I personally see it as Garland giving Trump the back of his hand while also following normal procedure.
smith
@Matt McIrvin: This goes more to the J6 case than the documents, but the 14th Amendment says:
Jeffro
Yes indeed.
It really is all or nothing for him. I hope at the end he decides to turn on Putin, all his fellow GOP crooks, Don Jr and Eric, anyone & everyone he can think of in an effort to keep himself out of prison. Because the alternative is him telling his supporters some thinly-veiled version of “kill them all”, unfortunately.
randy khan
@trollhattan:
Good thing you can’t do bold, italic, underlined 48 point text on Truth (anti)Social.
JPL
@smith: Thanks
Gravenstone
@Roger Moore: TPM is going to be an absolute shitshow with how all the Eeyores will disclaim ever doubting Garland. Or if they say anything at all, it will be to lionize Smith while continuing to lambaste “Merrick the Meek”. That’s just how they roll.
Frankensteinbeck
@WaterGirl:
It can. He’s been paying millions up front lately, because it comes from PACs. He loves spending other people’s money on himself.
Baud
@randy khan:
YOU CAN ON BALLOON JUICE!!!
Frankensteinbeck
@Baud:
AAAAAAAAAUGH
WaterGirl
@Steeplejack: Funny! But not real.
Gravenstone
@trollhattan: Is there a bold font option? That’s the next logical escalation of poutrage.
snoey
@Matt McIrvin: Conviction under the espionage act includes disqualification from federal office. Leading edge origionalist thinkers suspect that the President is not a federal officer because reasons. The 14th amendment has very little chance of actually stopping him.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Nicholle Wallace and a few others– I think Melber but I don’t watch him– are convinced that Jack Smith arrived last November to find a bare office with a lot of empty files in it, and then started from scratch
OverTwistWillie
Those UFO kooks mean a Space Command for the next five-hundred years.
WaterGirl
@Baud: We trust our BJ peeps!
Gravenstone
@pat: Apparently he’s conflating information that one of the former presidents Bush had multiple boxes of their records stored temporarily in a location that had in a previous life been a Chinese restaurant. The fact those boxes were under the official control of the National Archives never seems to make it in the tale of rage.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
https://youtu.be/MYQCb3qrBpo
Miss Bianca
@Baud: Great gasbags!
Ruckus
@pat:
Does he just make that up?
Possibly. Possibly he’s getting it from some other way out there moron who is just as deluded as he is. And yes, he’s been ShitForBrains for decades. But just pulled it out of his ass – very likely.
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl: Why?
smith
I understand that moron’s name is Ted Cruz.
JPL
Maybe former commenter will join us once again to say even Andrew is right once and awhile.
Andrew Weissmann![]()
@AWeissmann_
A zillion stories about Trump case — but bottom line is he is getting charged and it will be in DC. And this week. Open issues are whether others may be charged and whether they will be in DC or FLA.
bbleh
@JoyceH: FWIW, I read that, before the recent hiatus, that GJ normally met Thursdays and Fridays, but ain’t no guarantee they’re gonna hand up an indictment at the next meeting, eg there was talk of another witness.
Gravenstone
@trollhattan: Probably trying to avoid having their aircraft seized pending investigation.
Ruckus
@WaterGirl:
Beliefs have no basis in intelligence.
Beliefs are things one is taught or things that one sees or things that actually make zero sense or have really no real history but strike a cord in a human brain. Is 2+2=4? Are you sure? Or do you just believe this from 1st grade teaching? That is the level of belief. Now my sample is rather obvious but take SFB (PLEASE) – he’s been told, by himself mostly I’d bet, that he is a superior human being. Wealthy, good looking, well dressed, etc. Why? Because he’s got money. Not nearly as much as he could have had if his IQ was at least 1/10 of his weight rather than 1/200. But what it is – is what it is. He’s a loud mouthed, racist POS who started out his “career” inheriting a bunch of money from his dad and stealing most of his siblings inheritance as well. And then he turned it into what you see today. If he wasn’t so smart, wise, informed, wonderful, he could be worth far more. What a choice specimen of a human being. Pardon me while I go throw up.. I’ve never typed anything so ridiculously unfunny and bullshit in my life than those last 2 sentences.
Jeffro
Btw the full text of Chris Sununu’s op-ed on why he’s not running is really something to behold. No delusions, minimal anti-Dem spin, just flat-out telling the GOP that trumpov is a loser and they’re heading for disaster if they nominate him again. Here’s parts of it:
It really deserves its own thread tonight or tomorrow, hint hint ;)
Ruckus
@smith:
Well little teddy does seem to be about as unlikable as any living human.
Jackie
@JPL: Didn’t Bragg listen to a last minute witness AND indict TFG the SAME DAY?
Just sayin and wishin and hopin…🤞🏻🤞🏻
UncleEbeneezer
@Gravenstone: Or they will just pretend it never happened. My prediction for the most virulent virulent GarlandHaters owning up and admitting they were incredibly, loudly wrong: ZERO. It would be like people admitting they were wrong to bash Hillary in 2016. Their identity is way too wrapped up in the stance they took early on and they are very unlikely to abandon it now. I wouldn’t expect too many mea culpas from any of the people who have spent the last 2 years bashing Garland.
moops
When is the NY trial supposed to start? I seem to recall that Trump has already been indicted.
Tony Jay
@narya:
Good Hobbit Jedi name.
JWR
From the NYT piece:
Haven’t all the very serious people been saying this for like, forever? Better safe than sorry, I guess. Like a pre-death obituary.
Omnes Omnibus
@UncleEbeneezer: A good number will move the goal posts. Too late. Insufficient charging. Won’t be convicted. Will never serve a day in prison. And so on.
Baud
@Jeffro:
Sununu is right about Trump, but this
I don’t see what the GOP can do. Abandoning anti-choice for them would be like the Dems says segregation wasn’t so bad after all.
Baud
@UncleEbeneezer:
@Omnes Omnibus:
“We made Garland do it!”
WaterGirl
@Baud: hahaha
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@JWR: they can’t end the investigation because the Keystone Crooks won’t stop criming
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Shit, I forgot that one.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Fools! That’s were Hillary kept her incriminating emails!
Geminid
@Jeffro: Left unsaid by Sununu: 2028 will be a much better time to run. No one will come out of the 2024 nomination fight unscathed.
Steeplejack
@Baud:
I reached out to my UFO/aliens fringe monitoring friend, and she says it’s about this story: “Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin.”
Baud
@Steeplejack: Yes, that’s it. I didn’t click the reddit link — just read the comments.
Frankensteinbeck
@Jeffro:
Sununu wants his party of fellating the rich, screwing the poor, and only torturing minorities when the code words are convincing back, dang it!
Miss Bianca
@Baud: I’m with you on that one. For me, it’s like, “Chris, Chris, Chris…basically what you’re telling the Republican Party is that they have to stop being the Republican Party – because they got NOTHING on offer except tax cuts, restricting the vote, white supremacy, and misogyny. That’s the problem. Their offer is this – NOTHING.”
Baud
@Baud: says = saying
Jeffro
truth
“Let’s sit this one out, GOP, rid ourselves of this HORRENDOUS trump-stink, and just win the Senate or hold on to the House (Senate probably preferred) for Biden’s second term.”
Jay
@Ruckus:
sorry about that, if you need to talk it out. I’m here.
Maybe just go fishing again.
Scout211
CNN has another front page EXCLUSIVE!! report in the Mar A Lago documents case.
ETA: I see others got there first.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Baud: Heckle and Jeckle are in hiding
Shalimar
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I don’t watch Wallace most days, but that is surprising to me. She is normally excellent at remembering minutiae of past stories, so I would expect her to have no trouble with all the details of January 6th investigation stories before Smith was appointed. The first Grand Jury looking into it was almost 17 months ago iirc.
trollhattan
@Scout211: Only thing that might make it better is if the computer room was on a second floor somewhere.
cain
@Jeffro: lol – he’s just a man crying in the wilderness. The GOP’s reaction is to cheat their way in and give up on Democracy not actually compete.
bbleh
@S Cerevisiae: I wonder if it comes out orange.
Steeplejack
Nicholle Wallace just announced that Jack Smith was in the meeting with Trump’s lawyers at DOJ today.
Jay
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:
Witness Protection,…….
Tony Jay
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Jacel
@pat: That was the 1850 boxes of records from Biden’s senatorial career (covering 1973-2009), which were donated to the University Of Delaware and currently sealed. That’s less than one box per week of his career. No indication of there being classified documents in there at all, other than Ted Cruz and others speculating.
Nettoyeur
@WaterGirl: Big money GOP clients with legal exposure, of which there are many.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@bk:
I didn’t know Lionel Hutz had a law partner
Manyakitty
@WaterGirl: right? They’re torching their reputations. Man-tan and Cheeto dust stain permanently.
Manyakitty
@trollhattan: so that means his cell is available for the next national security disaster. Bring it.
sab
@Manyakitty: You instagramed a email address to me. I didn’t save so instagram (what part of insta did I not see) ate it. Or I don’t yet know how to work it.
We need to get forward on the meetup, and I seem to be the holdup. Instagram me or get Watergirl to e mail me. It is the e- mail starting with 18. She knows it. Email is better.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Jay: Heh!
Chris T.
@Redshift:
Exactly. If he wins in the future, 2020 was just a “temporary setback”. His death in another ten years (or sooner if his rages combine with the hamberders) will also be just another “temporary setback”…
Chris T.
@Jeffro: (quoting Chris Sununu)
Unfortunately for Mr Sununu, those are all Democratic ideas.
We look like corn cobs!
@Jeffro: Naw, it’s just the same old same old:
If only they just tweak the message…