Where are the (DeSaster) snow-jobs of yesteryear last week? Well, Musk gets bored easily, everyone laughed at Ronnie’s Big Reveal, and maybe Elon needs some kind of favor from Jack…
On his Twitter Spaces, Robert F. Kennedy is talking about spending three months in East Africa in a tent with former Fox News president Roger Ailes when he was 19. This guy is running for the Democratic Party nomination.
— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) June 5, 2023
Listening to this RFK Jr. and Elon on this Spaces and it’s like none of these people were alive 3 years ago.
They’re talking about the “media” doing the bidding of whatever politician is in power. I was an Enemy of the People for not accepting President Trump’s lies. Pick one.
Elon in the RFK Jr. Spaces finally admitting financial problems at Twitter: “Half of our advertising disappeared overnight because we’re insisting on free speech… they’re literally trying to drive Twitter bankrupt.”…
This RFK Jr. Twitter Space has, once again, turned into his guest just giving Elon Musk compliments and asking him variations of “what made you so brave to purchase Twitter, sir?”
“That’s very, very moving and very, very admirable and I want to thank you for your service.” — RFK Jr. just now to Elon Musk, who is now comparing Elon Musk to a Revolutionary War soldier.
I’m not kidding.
Here we go, RFK Jr. now going after Elon Musk about Neuralink.
RFK Jr. agreed with with Musk’s assessment that “First, AI is going to take all of our jobs, and then it’s going to murder us.” RFK has dabbled in transhumanism panic for years, so he’s pretty upset about Neuralink.
RFK Jr. now asking “what are we going to do with — and I’m using a bad characterization, but — surplus humans” — if full self-driving becomes real.
Elon reassures him that “full self-driving is not going to be an existential risk to civilization.”
Brainworms all the way down.
About 40 minutes into RFK Jr.’s presidential town hall on Twitter Spaces, Elon finally says “I think the American public would like to hear about your presidential run.”
It’s been almost entirely Elon flattery, weird lies about the Twitter Files, and the AI apocalypse so far.
RFK Jr. pushing an interesting conspiracy theory that Twitter wouldn’t allow him to get more than 900,000 followers, and that he would be “cut back” to 800,000 followers when he got close.
Couldn’t possible be bots or that people stopped following him because of his views.
RFK Jr.’s Elon Musk Twitter Spaces is devolving as one of the last Twitter Files writer guys fights with either the mute button or a tough wifi situation. Honestly, the most relatable part of this chat so far.
Follow the money(tization):
Huh. Wonder why he decided to run for President. https://t.co/zgoZrvBC8b
— ?????????? ??(parody) (@CrunchyFishTaco) June 5, 2023
The (British) Independent did a livestream of the event (making it an international shanda). Some tidbits:
RFK Jr says Instagram misinformation ban had nothing to do with ‘factual accuracy’
During his two-hour-long Twitter Spaces chat, Mr Kennedy told people that his ban from Instagram had “nothing to do with… factual accuracy” despite him circulating misinformation about Covid-19 and vaccines…On gun control, RFK Jr says he will not ‘take away anybody’s guns’
Robert F Kennedy Jr said his position on gun control is that he is “not going to take away anybody’s guns” and pointed his finger at psychiatric drugs as a possible cause of school shootings…RFK Jr spreads conspiracy about Covid calling it ‘a bioweapons problem’…
Mr Kennedy went on a conspiracy tangent about other countries developing bioweapons against the United States, saying US leaders should be quick to negotiate and de-escalate tensions.“Covid was clearly a bioweapons problem,” Mr Kennedy said. “What if it was a real disease?”
RFK Jr blames President Biden for steering Democrats toward war
Mr Kennedy reflected on the Democrat party of his father, Robert F Kennedy, and uncle, John F Kennedy, and said he blames President Joe Biden for steering Democrats toward war.“I attribute that directly to President Biden,” Mr Kennedy said calling Democrats “pro-war.”
The 2024 presidential candidate said he liked Mr Biden but found he had a “pugnacious” approach to foreign politics.
He accused Mr Biden of believing, “Violence is a legitimate political tool to achieving America’s objects abroad.”
RFK Jr believes the US needs to seal the border
When speaking about immigration, 2024 candidate Robert F Kennedy Jr said he believes the US needs to, “seal our border” during Monday’s Twitter Spaces event.Mr Kennedy said that the US should focus on taking care of Americans who cannot afford to live before taking on those seeking asylum.
Though, he acknowledged that many people seeking asylum in the US from Central and South America are doing so as a direct result of, “bad US politics in the South.”
Mr Kennedy said he planned to go to the US-Mexico border on Monday night to meet with people “on both sides.”…
Twitter users mock RFK Jr and Elon Musk’s ‘love fest’ Spaces event
The first 30 minutes of Robert F Kennedy Jr and Elon Musk’s Twitter Spaces event seemed to be dedicated to Mr Kennedy praising Mr Musk for his work on Twitter and other companies he owns.On the social media platform, Twitter users mocked Mr Kennedy for gushing over Mr Musk.
“RFK Jr. does know Elon can’t be his running mate, right? This love fest is too much for me,” one Twitter user wrote…
On the Twitter spaces with RFK Jr. and Elon Musk, "Let me pull Tulsi into the conversation…."
— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) June 5, 2023
RFK Jr. says his wife, Cheryl Hines, who was reluctant about his presidential bid at first, joked she would deal with it by going to the Bahamas to "invent a new kind of margarita that has Xanax in it."
— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) June 5, 2023
Asked for his stance on guns, RFK Jr. says, "I'm not going to take away anyone's guns" and then links school shootings to psychiatric drugs.
"Prior to the introduction of Prozac, we have never seen events like this…"
— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) June 5, 2023
Almost 2.5 hours later, that's a wrap on RFK Jr.'s Twitter Spaces conversation with Elon Musk (w/ special guests Tulsi Gabbard, Cheryl Hines and pro surfer Kelly Slater).
For two guys known for saying provocative things, their conversation was surprisingly un-newsy.
— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) June 5, 2023
Even protest voters are going to be uncomfortable. They'll probably write-in Bernie.
— CavsKermit (@JbkJbk1234) June 5, 2023
War for Ukraine Day 467: The Cost Part I’ve Lost Count
Raoul Paste
I’m probably the last person to see the movie Glass Onion, and OMG, was that a thinly veiled evisceration of Elon Musk, or what? Thoroughly enjoyable.
piratedan
just one more reason to be seriously skeptical of BlueSky as a replacement for Twitter. Same bad actors doing the same dumbass shit.
sdhays
Gah – I wish it was impossible for anyone to see or hear the words “free speech” coming from Elon Musk without a reminder of all of the explicit state-sponsored censorship he happily engages in as long as it’s authoritarian governments doing it while still petulantly insisting it is too “free speech”.
Jeffro
Keep the sunlight coming on this clown/these clowns/the whole gang of these clowns, peeps, it can only help.
And while it’s irritating to have to say it…Nate’s totally right. RFKJr’s “audience” in any Democratic primary would best be described as ‘white dwarf’-ish: very, very small and extremely dense.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
who’s “our” here? AI is going to take away the jobs of indolent trust-fund crack pots?
Maybe Larry David and Wanda Sykes can get Cheryl Hines to agree to an intervention. Turn Susie Essman loose on him. I’d pay to watch that.
sdhays
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Man, if AI is going to take away the jobs of indolent trust-fund crack pots, we need to subsidize the industry more than we already do.
scav
Easier than ever to work around any suspension on social media platforms — just declare yourself a candidate and BOOM!!!, all hate-speech/misinformation is unfettered. Gonna be a crowded field.
Tony G
“spending three months in East Africa in a tent with former Fox News president Roger Ailes when he was 19. ” … God; what a horrible experience that must have been … for both of them. Maybe that’s what turned RFK Junior into a psychotic nut.
moonbat
Honest question: Twitter has lost 69 percent of it’s advertisers. It’s bleeding users. It’s not paying its rent. It’s valued at less than half of what Musk paid for it. And it’s up to its eyeballs in debt. Why is it still afloat? Weren’t those bankers going to start demanding return on investment in the first quarter of this year? Or is this another one of those extremely rich extremely white gentleman’s agreements where it would be considered uncouth to foreclose on the so-called richest man in the world?
bjacques
If we’re going to blame drugs, then blame ayahuasca, which apparently grants to manchildren like Dorsey the self-flattering cosmic insight that they are benefiting humanity in the long run by giving megaphones to idiots, trolls, and enemy agents to destabilize democracy in the short run.
Lord Fartdaddy (Formerly Mumphrey, Smedley Darlington Mingobat, et al.)
How can we miss R.F.K. if he won’t go away?
scav
@moonbat: Or, it’s still essentially doing what certain backers want it to do. Getting messages out they want conveyed and muddying the waters / drowning out information they want disappeared.
moonbat
@scav:
Maybe. But you’d think that said backers would want the thing to at least look like a success on paper. The more it continues to founder the more the public catches on that it has become nothing more than a self-indulgent billionaire’s play toy, not a truthiness juggernaut.
Today’s stunt is a case in point. Even the faithful were getting bored with all the Musky tongue-bathing.
Burnspbesq
Since this is an open thread …
ICYMI, the Bexar County (San Antonio) Sheriff’s Department has recommended felony charges against the folks (potentially including senior officials in the DeSantis administration) involved in the migrants to Martha’s Vineyard stunt.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article276114271.html
The California AG’s office is investigating this past weekend’s migrants to Sacramento stunt.
Ken
“Joked”. Right.
And it sounds like she doesn’t share his aversion to psychiatric drugs.
SpaceUnit
Those two loons need to get a room. Maybe they can invite Joe Rogan and make it a threesome.
Also, I only today learned that Bobby Kennedy and his wife had eleven kids. I knew they were Catholic, but that’s really Catholic.
RaflW
My mother-out-law & a few of her rebellious 70 year old friends just riled up their town board in their comfy Milwaukee suburb. Word got around in the last few days that the Village Board had some sort of not-very-public conversation about shutting the library. Menomonee Falls has a population of 38,500!
A public library is a huge asset to a town that size. Children’s story hours. Computers for people to access the internet when they might not be able to afford such things at home. Programs for senior citizens — as well as just a cosy, nice place for seniors to hang out. Craft programs. Help for high school kids to write their term papers. On and on.
The open mic portion of tonights meeting usually features a few random comments. But the room was packed, and there was a 45 minute stream of 3 minute comments from a wide array of suddenly pissed off or sad citizens. Including a banker. People who’ve lived (and paid taxes) in town for 25 years. A woman who move to , and started her small business in town 3 years ago and basically all but announced she’s gonna run for Village Board in the next election. A 12 year old voracious reader.
My BF’s mom (a retired school teacher. BF heard the preview/rough draft while we were driving home and he laughed at her boldness) was the second to speak. This is one of those reliably Republican-voting towns that has had at least a partial takeover by far–right ideologues. The school board fell last year to total winger crazies and has had a rash of admin and teacher resignations.
IDK what it is going to take for places like this to wrest control back from the nuts. But at least the citizens are not letting the boards pull their stunts without pushback and bright light being shone. Grrr.
eta: One brilliant feature of the town library: The member receipts with their return dates compiles the retail price of all the books & other media they’ve checked out each year. One person said she and her family of 5 had already used $6,000 of media this year, and that equals a quarter of her annual after-tax income!
The most galling part is that the indication was that a Village Board members said, roughly, “This is a town of prosperous people. They can afford to buy the books they want, so we can shut the library to save money.” Jeepers.
Splitting Image
@moonbat:
If there is an ulterior motive, it’s probably that they want to buy into one of Musk’s other companies (Tesla or SpaceX), and they are hoping his antics with Twitter will drive the stock prices down far enough that they can buy in and catch the rebound.
Mostly I think it’s just that anyone doing business with Musk is just as stupid and corrupt as he is. Deutsche Bank kept lending to Trump long after sane institutions washed their hands of him.
Mousebumples
@RaflW: Thank her for me! I just read about that. Link to come as I edit!
dmsilev
He still doesn’t get it. The advertisers don’t care one way or the other about Twitter’s long-term business prospects; they just want to get value for their money. Value, in this case, includes a reasonable assurance that their brands won’t be collocated with neoNazi propaganda and similar.
Another Scott
@scav: @moonbat:
Bloomberg (from May 3):
(That’s all I could grab without an account.)
The banksters are stuck with the loans at the moment. As long as he keeps making interest payments every 3 months, it’s probably better for them than being forced to take a loss before they’re ready.
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
Matt McIrvin
@Raoul Paste: Rian Johnson claimed that Miles Bron was based on a whole class of idiot billionaires of whom Elon Musk was but one. But when the movie came out, Musk had just done a whole bunch of things that made him seem way more like Miles Bron.
bjacques
@dmsilev: conservatives love capitalism until it gores their particular oxen as a reminder that it doesn’t necessarily love them back.
Mousebumples
We all know that’s code, right? Too many of the non prosperous people are getting educated and not working in the low wage jobs. And maybe Menomonee Falls is getting close to majority-minority. I haven’t looked at the census – though tRump really screwed that up, too.
Things are changing – and these old white* guys (*forgive me for presuming race, but I grew up nearby and have worked in Meno Falls) are afraid.
Tehanu
Re RFKJr: in a word, eek. In several more words, gag me with the proverbial spoon.
Subsole
@SpaceUnit:
Hi.
What on earth did I ever do to you that you felt the need to jam that image into my brain??
Alison Rose
I’ve taken nearly every antidepressant on the market and I’ve never shot anyone.
Maybe I should be president.
SpaceUnit
@Subsole:
Sorry.
RaflW
@Mousebumples: Thanks!
More GOP stupidity in Wisconsin (via WPR):
Joint Finance Committee vote to pull UW-Madison engineering building from state budget threatens $100 million in donations
June 5, 2023
Around $100 million in private donations for a planned engineering building at the University of Wisconsin-Madison are at risk after Republican lawmakers pulled the project from the state’s capital budget….
RaflW
@Mousebumples: The Falls is still pretty white, though certainly more diverse than when BF was a kid there decades ago.
No, this is pure right wing shit. People who are well informed are a threat to RW domination and control strategies, so keep ’em stupid and keep ’em consuming from the capitalist machine. Also, always, tax cuts. The flaming hot god of tax cuts.
Subsole
@dmsilev:
Ugh. Never, ever their fault, is it.
“Why yes, I did turn this establishment into the local Nazi watering hole. Yes, I gave dullards, bigots, and people who torture newborn animals for fun and profit preferential treatment and forced all my longtime loyal regulars to put up with their abuse. And then my stock price just mysteriously collapsed. No doubt the work of the perfidious Jew.”
Man has nothing but pureed fuckin’ cockroach between his ears, and somehow that’s everyone else’s fault.
Mousebumples
@RaflW: (both of your comments)
Yup – they know they can’t win on the issues, so they’ll hope to roll things back to when the electorate was uninformed and didn’t vote or just voted for their side.
I grew up in Washington County (not far away from Menomonee Falls), and while there were looooots of conservatives around (including me – until college, when I was exposed to be viewpoints), we had a good school system, believed in education and helping others who weren’t as fortunate.
Sigh.
Ruckus
The overwhelming majority of it is name recognition and when people hear what he has to say, they will peel off with the quickness.
RK Jr. Someone has to be kidding. This can not be real.
I have no idea what he’s on, it might only be his own farts, but whatever it is, is not good.
Here’s one pealed off quite a while ago….
Quinerly
Please front page tonight’s Lawrence O’Donnell show.
prostratedragon
@RaflW: They really have it in for UW-M, eh?
smith
@Ruckus: I’m not sure the Kennedy name has all that much resonance with the majority of voters, anyway. For most of them Jack and Bobby are distant historical figures, Teddy was just some senator from somewhere, if they remember him at all, and JFK, Jr exists primarily as a weird QAnon icon. I don’t see any potential for RFK, Jr to do anything to the presidential race except provide some comic relief.
Ruckus
@Splitting Image:
Deutsche Bank kept lending to Trump long after sane institutions washed their hands of him.
Do you think it might have been someone bank rolling him to help stink up the country that this person really, really wants to be better than but will never be anywhere close. Someone who perhaps has invaded a neighboring country because his ego is stronger than his mental capacity?
different-church-lady
@Mousebumples:
If your town is so fuckin’ prosperous how come it doesn’t have enough money for a library?
Subsole
@SpaceUnit:
S’ok.
Ruckus
@smith:
There are a lot of people still breathing who were alive when JFK was president and likely remember him rather well. Just because a number of the family went off the rails and crashed into a field of stupid doesn’t mean he won’t get votes, especially if they just hear the name and not the stupid.
Subsole
@different-church-lady:
It’s the arrogance.
“Oh, you can just buy those books instead.”
Like, who are you, and why are you telling me how to spend my money??
Conservatism is just a HOA with a canvassing office grafted on.
Splitting Image
@Ruckus:
Could be. I’m just puttin’ it out there.
Dopey-o
June 5th …. seems like that date is significant. Curious that RFK jr appears now.
smith
@Ruckus: The people (like me) who remember JFK are necessarily old, and have long since settled into habitual voting patterns. Possibly some will vote for the nutball as a protest, but it won’t have any discernible effect on the election. If the Kennedy name were so very powerful, Teddy would have had more success when he ran for president.
Ruckus
@smith:
I actually hope you are right and I believe that is a real possibility but over the decades I’ve learned a thing or three and one of those is not to hold my breath hoping that reality wins out. Because sometimes reality is on vacation. Take our last president. PLEASE!
Mousebumples
All hail the need for more tax cuts, in the name of Reagan.
Jackie
@Burnspbesq: Please dogs, let Pudd’n Boots go kaplooie! If charges stick from the 3 (so far) illegal transfer of immigrants legally seeking sanctuary in the US to other states, maybe he’ll face indictments – just like his other Floridian opponent! 🤞🏻🤞🏻
Quinerly
@Dopey-o:
It’s repulsive.
June 5.
First thing I flashed on.
RaflW
@prostratedragon: It’s just bonkers. The right win shenanigans in Texas with U.T., too. UF and other state schools in DeSeptis-land.
The ideological freaks have either no understanding of what makes their states attractive to students, to workers wanting to increase their knowledge and income potential, and especially companies wanting/needing skilled workforce … or don’t care … or worst of all, are sufficiently afraid of an informed and critically educated workforce that they’re trashing education to try to shore up their authoritarian grip on power.
Long term if they pull this sh*t off, we’ll just be handing our assess to China and India, all while banging protectionist drums.
Roberto el oso
@SpaceUnit: And given that none of the Kennedy brothers (John, Bobby, Teddy) were paragons of marital fidelity, there very well might be offshoots (so to speak) of the legitimate clan. Although adherence to Catholic teaching on birth control may have been expected only of the ‘actual’ wives ….
piratedan
@RaflW: to be fair, I wouldn’t be shocked if we have an internal brain drain from this bullshit. Best and the brightest go elsewhere, start up their own businesses in places that aren’t cultural backwaters… states that bought into boogeyman politics spiral into places where they embrace their small-minded bigotry….
RaflW
@Mousebumples: I just attended the funeral of a former long-time alderman and mayor of Oconomowoc. “A good school system, belief in education and helping others who weren’t as fortunate” described that gentleman well. Alas he and many of his generation somehow didn’t transmit these service and community values down very well (or decades of Fox and an opportunistic, fear-based larger GOP overrode them), despite living them personally and being lauded for them in death. It’s a damn shame.
RaflW
@piratedan: Yeah. I will be looking closely at enrollment and student body quality at Jacksonville, Austin, etc this coming fall and the next few years.
I too suspect the bloom will be falling off the rose, but it will unfortunately happen at a pace and manner that won’t interest the press beyond niche education corners. So the aholes like Abbot, DeSantis, and the WI GOP won’t really get caught holding the bag.
eversor
@moonbat:
Twitter matters because the people that matter like twitter. Hence why it’s embedded in fucking everything. And as much as it might stink of Nazi, that reach is worth more than gold to them. So twitter is worth losing money on and propping up, because it props up other bullshit.
To be more clear twitter ads may not work. But getting your tweet on the news lets you influence the conversation. That’s worth losing the money. To the investors, they’ll make the money back through their investments in other companies who get tweets into the news.
To make sense of this let’s say I’m back at one of the big consulting companies I work for. I’m not going to be able to sell services on twitter nobody is stupid enough to fall for that one. But if I can get a tweet up there about a new female CEO and that we had say Michelle Obama at our partners event, and then that tweet shows up on multiple sites and on Morning Joe, well who cares! It’s a win. And I’ve been at a place that did exactly that. That’s the juice behind twitter.
For someone like me twitter is odd. I have twitter because I like high end audio products, knives (cooking and pocket!), and wood working products. So getting a daily email of what my favorite companies are doing is kinda fun. I don’t engage on it. Do I need a slightly upgraded version of my $1k in ear monitors, well no but it’s fun to know it’s out there. Do I need a new 200 buck pocket knife, no but I might get it. Do we (the SO doesn’t use the priors) need a new 500 buck kitchen knife, well no, but a birthday is coming up and her sister may need one.
Twitter is sort of like the Sunday Shows where you wonder who the fucking is paying for this all as none of us are buying Raytheon products at COSTCO, then it hits you. The shows lose money at the front, but it’s propped up by the money at the back.
mvr
@RaflW: I believe I had liberal friends from Oconomowoc when I was a teenager in the 70s.
Jackie
@smith: We who remember JFK and RFK know RFKJr does NOT represent the Kennedy democratic values. His FAMILY has publicly denounced him.
Those voting for him know EXACTLY what he stands for – his last name is incidental.
scav
@Ruckus: Or, to return to my earlier distrust, that the banks / investors themselves sometimes do have an agenda other than simple or short-term cash-profit but are fiddling with the scales and mucking with the playing fields.
Redshift
@smith: The name doesn’t have enough resonance to take him anywhere, but it is recognizable enough to elevate him above a crackpot candidate who isn’t named Kennedy. So no, he won’t get anything but crank/protest votes in the primaries, but someone exactly like him without the name wouldn’t even be mentioned in articles about the presidential race.
Redshift
@Mousebumples:
Yeah, “all the people who ought to have books can buy them instead of the gummint stealing my money and spending it on those people.”
Redshift
@Splitting Image:
That was the running joke when he bought it, in response to why any bank would finance the deal: “they think it gives them a good shot at owning Tesla.” Remember, it’s not just buying in — the deal is secured with Tesla stock.
RaflW
@dmsilev: I’d also say advertisers can look at total views per paid item placed, and probably aren’t seeing the numbers they did before the sale.
And what are the demographics of current twitter users compared to a year ago? If the demo that is on there now isn’t aligned with their targets as well as before, why pay as much or push as many ads out?
Redshift
@RaflW:
Spoken by someone who has clearly not been inside a library in many decades (it’s a building with a bunch of books, right?) And likely owns a number of books in the single digits, which are displayed on a shelf and never read.
RaflW
@mvr: Certainly. Out of curiosity, we were looking back at the last election results in the car on the way this morning. 39% of Waukesha county voted Biden (vs. 40% Biden in Walworth where our family cabin is.)
Liberals are around. They just don’t have much power in some town, as well as county, governments in the WOW counties (Waukesha, Ozaukee, and Washington). That said, the Protasiewicz election showed further shifts towards blue in the WOWs.
Ruckus
@dmsilev:
Advertisers also want eyeballs on the ads. Take away those eyeballs…… And that is happening with twit. I might go on there for 5-15 minutes a week now. I wasted a lot of time on there prior to his purchase.
RaflW
@Ruckus: A lot of ‘power users’ of twitter report their personal accounts have seen big drops in views. I’d assume advertisers are seeing that too.
If ’60 Minutes’ saw a big Nielsen drop, they’d have to adjust ad rates too.
mvr
@RaflW: That’s good news. I grew up in Rockford Illinois, when all of Illinois except Cook County was R and our schools were segregated (de facto because the town was). Wisconsin was the sane state to the north that we hoped to emulate. Had friends in Brookfield and Waukeshaw and Madison. Cool state, back then, compared to where I lived.
When I moved to Nebraska (from NJ after Oregon) in the 90s it felt like getting in a time machine and moving back to Rockford in the 1960s to 70s. Whitest city in America I was told in 1991. (Not sure if it was true. But it felt like it.) Was going better here for a while until this legislative session. Still we have a good mayor and I’m happy to have spent money on that this year.
mvr
Since this is a dying open thread, I’ll just add two things. Jason Isbell’s new album is good. And I just this weekend found out a friend/restaurant owner (home away from home) owner died just before the pandemic after the restaurant had shut down. And it feels so strange to not have known and been able to send condolences.
Jinchi
I’m amazed at the number of people who believe “free speech” costs $96 a year ($132 if you use an Iphone).
Redshift
@RaflW:
Try to keep that energy going, make sure the people who came out know that unless they (and the people they tell about what they did) vote in local elections, the people who do will win. And there are probably enough people who don’t like the craziness (whether or not they identify as liberals or Democrats) to vote them out.
eclare
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
OMG that would be awesome!
lgerard
@RaflW:
Not to worry. They did scrape up 285 million for the Camp Randall Sports Center replacement, which is a football practice field.
Chris T.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
He never said what AI would do with our jobs after taking them. Perhaps AI will launder them and return them freshly pressed.
Mai Naem mobile
Anybody know what happened to RFK Jr? Does he have a child with autism which led him down this path? Has he always been a whackjob? Is it his dad and uncle being assassinated which has screwed him up? Was it his first wife who IIRC had some psych issues? He just seems such an anomaly in the Kennedy family.
NotMax
Not normally one to engage in armchair diagnosis, but someone’s sending out signals of being in desperate need of “psychiatric medication.”
Steve in the ATL
@RaflW: @Mousebumples: if the town is so affluent, why is there not a single decent restaurant there? Or did I somehow miss it?
Ruckus
@Mai Naem mobile:
I believe that JFK was the one that you should consider the anomaly in that family if you are going to look at it that way.
PAM Dirac
@Ruckus: RFK, Jr’s sister Kathleen ran for Governor of Maryland in 2002 and lost. I don’t think any Kennedys in that generation have ran a successful campaign. Doesn’t mean a few people won’t vote for him, but I’m very skeptical it will be more than rounding error.
Joey Maloney
@Burnspbesq: If a state charges another state’s governor with a felony, is the charged governor required by law to assist in extraditing himself?
Anyway
I take issue with Nate Silver’s assertion that RFK Jr has any kind of base in or out of likely D primary voters. Who are these 5 people?
Edited for clarity
Mousebumples
Milwaukee is better, depending on what you like. There are probably some good “supper clubs” in the area, but I can’t name a restaurant I’d be excited to go to in Meno Falls.
The Kettle Moraine area does have some decent restaurants, though – again, depending on your tastes. I tend to prefer the good food I won’t cook at home (Orville and Timmers are 2 of my local-there favorites when I’m visiting family), and my husband prefers good food that’s cheap. (Silver Lake Inn, I think, is one of his favorites, but they don’t take credit cards…)
Gvg
@Redshift: librarian expert assistance can save you lots of money and time when you actually need specifics too. Nobody is already expert in every subject. Being able to afford to buy every book in existence isn’t always the point. Doofus displays own ignorance of course.
snoey
@PAM Dirac: Patrick Kennedy was a congressman from Rhode Island 2004-2010.
Tony G
@smith: That’s right. I remember the Kennedy brothers being killed way back when I was a kid — but I’m an old geezer of 67. For anyone significantly younger than me, the Kennedy brothers might as well have been George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.
Miss Bianca
@RaflW: If it’s a town of such “prosperous people”, they can afford to pay their fucking taxes to keep the library going.
Jesus wept.
brantl
It’s a shame that RFK Jr. went off the rails he started out identifying and suing river polluters; it’s just fucking sad.
moonbat
@Another Scott:
Thanks! That at least makes some sense to a non-wheeler dealer like me.