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  3. 3.

    JWR

    I feel you, WG. I just woke up from another afternoon nap, only to have this sh*t crammed down my throat? I mean, c’mon, man! ;)

  4. 4.

    The Kropenhagen Interpretation

    It’s my sister’s birthday tomorrow, but all the presents came today.

  5. 5.

    TaMara

    Reposting from botton of my thread:

  10. 10.

    Suzanne

    I went to yoga and got totally disgusting and sweaty and was feeling suuuuuuper-chill, and then I came out and checked the news and got all amped up.

  11. 11.

    schrodingers_cat

    @WG

    OT. Thanks for putting up a thread about my dear departed kitteh, exactly two years ago when he passed away rather suddenly. That was a lovely gesture.

  13. 13.

    Sparkedcat

    Today my face is frozen into a perpetual shit eating grin. Dom Perignon for all!

  14. 14.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    What a day!

    So, to recap:

    1. Pat Robertson died
    2. James Watt died
    3. The SCOTUS reaffirmed the VRA, shifting several House seats from R to D
    4. The businessman Paxton was trying to protect has been arrested by the FBI
    5. And last but not least, Trump has been indicated!
  15. 15.

    Scout211

    I am having a hard time waiting for the charges, currently under seal. NBC  has a hint:

    Two sources briefed on the seven charges told NBC News the charges include false statements and conspiracy to obstruct. All charges are related to retaining documents and obstructing justice. One source notes that 7 charges doesn’t necessarily mean 7 counts-there can be multiple counts associated with each charge.

    ETA:

    CNN  has a Trusty quote:

    Donald Trump’s attorney Jim Trusty confirmed Thursday night that the former president has been charged with seven counts – and revealed that the charges “break out from an Espionage Act charge.”

    Trusty called the espionage charge “ludicrous,” and added that there are also “several obstruction-based-type charges and then false statement charges.”

  16. 16.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    Indicted at last, indicted at last, thank God almighty he’s indicted at last!

  17. 17.

    Jeffro

    @TaMara: that theory actually feels right!

    trumpov and his goons are so corrupt and evil, it’s made me question my own atheism from time to time, so…yeah, put me down for “Robertson/Hellgate closed”

  22. 22.

    Layer8Problem

    I spent two hours in a building shareholder’s group meeting, totally being a good kid and paying attention and not looking at my cell phone, and BOOM, this happens.  I mean jeez, man, I wanted to participate!

  23. 23.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Scout211: I’ve seen a few people on twitter speculating that witness tampering, which of course he did, but I don’t know the legal definition. Walt Nauta, the other MAL employee who helped Nauta move boxes (and IIRC flooded the IT room?), Mark Meadows. I wonder if Cassidy Hutchinson has any post-testimony communication she forwarded straight to Liz Cheney.

  27. 27.

    zhena gogolia

    Yale Law School, take a bow.

    Hawley: If the president in power can jail his political opponents, which is what Joe Biden is trying to do tonight, we don't have a republic anymore. We don't have the rule of law or constitution. pic.twitter.com/kORIHivlVg— Acyn (@Acyn) June 9, 2023

  29. 29.

    planetjanet

    Seen on the bird site…

    He so indicted…

    And he just can’t hide it..

    He’s about to lose control, and I think it like it.

  31. 31.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I hate autocorrect lol

    It makes me look like Trump

    “I have been Indicated by the Corrupt Sleepy Joe Biden Administration!! Our Country is in a very dark place folks!!! Greatest Witch Hunt in history!!”

  32. 32.

    Almost Retired

    Oh my.  So I’m hiking in the Ozarks.  My wife and I got back to the hotel and were going to open a bottle of wine and do a mutual tick check (not a euphemism), and then I turned on MSNBC.  Wow!  Although we’re celebrating quietly, what with this being the Ozarks and all….

  36. 36.

    Jeffro

    @HumboldtBlue: he also said that the Rubicon has been crossed twice now with prosecuting trump, so I dunno…he might need to read up on his history a bit

  37. 37.

    Jeffro

    Btw as I mentioned in the earlier thread (not that it was a hard guess) Asa Hutchinson is calling on trumpov to withdraw from the race in light of today’s indictments.

    Popcorn, O popcorn, where art thou?

    Let the GOP Hunger Games begin!!

  38. 38.

    WaterGirl

    It’s interesting (to me) to see my reaction, and to notice that I don’t feel relieved. I knew this day would come.  I felt absolutely sure of it.  I am super happy that this day has arrived, and I hope there’s another Indictment day from Jack Smith, and even another one after that.

    But for today, I’m just happy.  I imagine I will be wound up tomorrow as we start to learn more details.

    It’s true, though, that if the indictment is under seal until my birthday present on Tuesday :-) then probably the only people talking will be Trump’s people, all with a spin to help him, or a spin to help save themselves.

  41. 41.

    WaterGirl

    @Jeffro: As I understand it, not all espionage charges are as sexy as that sounds.

    There’s some more mundane stuff that is covered under that act.  Still, I’m hoping for the “we have proof that you showed this classified to Saudi Arabia and that you sold out your country for cash” variety.

  42. 42.

    S Cerevisiae

    @HumboldtBlue: I heard Mark Levin on the radio 20 years ago and it sounded like he was heading for a sure stroke or an aneurysm, I can’t believe he’s still spilling out his bile.

  43. 43.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Jeffro:

    I love that!

    “Hellgate Closing Day”

    Oh, and the House GOP is in compete disarray after the debt ceiling was raised 😈

    Thank fuck Great Depression ll: Electric Boogaloo was averted

  44. 44.

    WaterGirl

    So, who’s gonna sleep like a baby tonight, and who’s too wound up to sleep?

    I am guessing that for me it’s the former, but it’s possible that it could be the latter.  I’ve been up since 5:30, though, so I think I will know the answer soon enough.  Heading for bed.

    Happy Indictment Day, everyone!

  47. 47.

    Scout211

    @Jeffro: @WaterGirl:

    See quote from Trusty at #15.  He states the charges “break out” from the espionage act.

    CNBC

    What’s the Espionage Act?

    The Espionage Act was passed shortly after the United States entered World War I in an attempt to crack down on wartime dissent.

    It criminalized the collection of certain military information and the sharing of sensitive information with those who lacked the appropriate clearances. Many portions of it are still law.

    Now Donald Trump is accused of violating it, according to his attorney James Trusty.

    The law has been used in several prominent cases in the past decade, including when the U.S. charged former NSA contractor Edward Snowden and WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange for leaking sensitive documents.

    The Department of Justice cited the act in the search warrant it used to search Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home for classified documents.

  49. 49.

    Jeffro

    FWIW trump’s MAGAman Mark Levin wants to hear from The Turtle…no wait, I have that wrong…he just wants ol’ Mitch flat-out REMOVED for not rushing to trump’s defense.

    LOLOLOLOL

    Mark, m’man…please don’t hold your breath here!

  50. 50.

    tobie

    @WaterGirl: Don’t you feel vindicated in your confidence this day would come? Back when I had a Twitter account I was starting to block every person shitposting about Garland and the DOJ. That left me with Teri Kanefield and Barb McQuade. Not a bad set. It’s just amazing to me how few sane voices there were out there

    ETA: Emptywheel and Mueller, She Wrote were also trying to tamp down on the despair and rage.

  51. 51.

    hueyplong

    @Jeffro: On the contrary, I insist that Levin hold his breath until McConnell gives a full-throated defense of the shitgibbon.

    Pat Robertson could use some company.

  54. 54.

    smith

    @WaterGirl: Even if turns out to be less than full-on spying for a foreign power, I’m hoping the word “espionage” applied repeatedly to TFG will wake up the sleepy people still wobbly in their opinion of him.

  57. 57.

    Ruckus

    @WaterGirl:

    I just am having such a wonderful day.

    First SFB is indicted and then I had another episode of BPPV today, not as bad as the last time, where the world was spinning a lot more but my stomach and I have had 4 arguments in the last hr or so, and I lost every one. I just absolutely love the progress of me getting older. Oh well at least it’s still happening.

  59. 59.

    jonas

    @WaterGirl: ​
      I think it will probably be more along the lines of “you let a ton of people w/o proper clearance have access to this stuff” than “you auctioned off this intelligence to the highest bidder,” but I’m willing to be surprised!

  62. 62.

    jonas

    @tobie: ​
    Yeah, there was some “Oh, Smith and Garland are a pair of milquetoasty p*ssies who are too afraid to rock the boat and bring charges against Trump…” around here as well. Never understood where that was coming from. Garland prosecuted McVeigh FFS and Smith has taken on honest-to-dog war criminals at the Hague. I think they know what the fuck they’re doing.

  63. 63.

    smith

    @jonas: Given that the only reason I can think of for him to take and then so vigorously hold on to them would be to turn them into cash, I think we can at least hope there were witnesses to the transactions. There may even been some urgency to the feds acting now, as it’s become clear that quite a few documents are still unaccounted for, and may still be on the auction block.

  64. 64.

    jonas

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: ​
      Trump fought for bigotry and white nationalism and the Confederates at Gettysburg fought for the same cause. Ergo charging him with stealing classified government secrets and obstruction of justice is just wrong!

    This is iron-clad logic in MAGAworld.

  65. 65.

    tobie

    @jonas: It sometimes felt like a pile on, especially since Garland and Smith couldn’t and wouldn’t reveal anything that would compromise the investigation or infringe on the rights of someone who had not yet been indicted.

  68. 68.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @schrodingers_cat: somebody on twitter pointed out that Elie Mystal, and his fellow Garland-is-doing-it-wrong-er Ari Melber, each have less than five years experience actually practicing law, while Garland,  as @jonas: points out, put Timothy McVeigh away.

  69. 69.

    jonas

    @smith: ​
      You’re forgetting Trump’s Razor: all things being equal, the stupidest explanation is the most likely. I still maintain that he stole the documents he did for the absolutely, most narcissistically stupid reasons imaginable: he the thought they made him look badass, either because he “knew” about it, or authorized it or something. I actually don’t think the was interested in monetizing them. He really did hang on to them because he thought whatever was in them represented his awesome power and super-geeniuzness as POTUS and he could tell people about it and say stuff like “Well, the proof is in my office. Now of course I can’t *show* it to you, but let’s just say, if I really wanted to maybe I could….and. Hey, can you keep a secret?”

    And on this petard he shall be hoist.

  70. 70.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @jonas: She also very dramatically cites the SLAP IN THE FACE! to WASHINGTON! MADISON! HAMILTON! ADAMS!

    cause if there’s one thing Enlightenment republicans believed in, it was that certain classes of citizens, like ex-presidents, should be above the law

  72. 72.

    Redshift

    @jonas:

    Never understood where that was coming from.

    The most charitable explanation is they’d gotten accustomed to investigations of Democrats that leaked like sieves, and didn’t grasp that’s not something we should wish for when the shoe is on the other foot.

  73. 73.

    BeautifulPlumage

    (moved up from below)

    Just a wafer-thin bit of more schadenfreude: there was a hearing today for the lawyers who used Chat GPT for research and submitted non-existent cases for their legal doc.
    Thread

  74. 74.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @smith: @jonas: I keep thinking of that time he told (probably) Hannity that Nixon got $18M for his papers, I wondered at teh time if that could/would play in court wrt motive

  76. 76.

    Captain C

    @zhena gogolia:

    Hawley: If the president in power can jail his political opponents, which is what Joe Biden is trying to do tonight, we don’t have a republic anymore. We don’t have the rule of law or constitution.

    Hawley here telling the world what his own fantasies are, projecting onto Biden.

  79. 79.

    piratedan

    it’s been quite a day and in a way it feels like it’s a tipping point….

    Enforcement of our laws is a real thing…. will hope that if proven guilty, convictions follow, for all of those involved.

    a part of this that is likely to be overlooked is the fulcrum that the supposed Meadows flip will end up being….

    as I understand it, Meadows would be able to shed light on just who did what on J6.  If he’s been promised a limited immunity for what has been filed today, it makes me wonder what else he had to give up considering the considerable amount of criming that had to be taking place.  I ponder just who else may now have reason to worry with Meadows talking and just who else’s names may be showing up on indictments in DC.

  80. 80.

    smith

    @jonas: Yes, he’s just that stupid. However, I still doubt he’d pass up any chance to make a dishonest buck. I think it’s quite likely he was making deals for secrets while in office, and was unwilling to give up a lucrative grift. We may never know, but it pays to never bet on him being any better than the worst he can possibly be.

  81. 81.

    jonas

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: ​
     

    cause if there’s one thing Enlightenment republicans believed in, it was that certain classes of citizens, like ex-presidents, should be above the law

    IKR? Like if only we could be governed by some figure who cut through all these “rule of law” knots and could just make law by fiat! Take action and do whatever they want! And pass that power on to their children! And not be answerable to his subjects in any way.

    Yes, this perfectly captures what our Founders were striving for…

  84. 84.

    Scout211

    @jonas: I would think that the US military plans for war with Iran would be “appreciated” by a few very wealthy countries. I think Trump knows this and how valuable those plans are.

  85. 85.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @UncleEbeneezer: F.E.C.K.L.E.S.S!

    ETA:  I feel just a little, I don’t know, less than charitable about some of those people.  I am not sure why….

  86. 86.

    Captain C

    @jonas:

    I actually don’t think the was interested in monetizing them.

    Jared, on the other hand, managed to land himself a nice, large fund manager gig (which with what I expect would be very generous compensation terms) from some people who have an interest in such things.  (Edited for clarity)

  87. 87.

    Jeffro

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: personally I loved it, nothing makes them look stupider than those kinds of nonsensical, hyperbolic rants

    “YOU’RE DISGRACING WASHINGTON, ROOSEVELT, AND FOR GAWD’S SAKES THE DEAD AT OMAHA BEACH BY INDICTING AN OBVIOUS CRIMINAL WITH A WELL-SUPPORTED CASE OF OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE GAHHHHHHH!!!!!1!”

  89. 89.

    Redshift

    @jonas: Yeah, but there are so many possible stupidest explanations, though. He also sincerely seemed to believe that he was elected to be CEO and owner of America, Inc., and all of its personnel and property were his. And he’s really greedy and has a history of not caring who the money comes from.

  93. 93.

    jonas

    @smith: ​

    I think it’s quite likely he was making deals for secrets while in office

    Oh, I think that’s absolutely right. But remember when he disclosed the existence of a top-secret Israeli intelligence operation against ISIS to the Russian ambassador? In the fucking Oval Office? It wasn’t for a monetary grift — he does enough of that with this real estate business — it was to act cool in front of the cool kids. He wanted to impress Lavrov so he bandied about a “big huge secret” that he happened to know about. Trump is pathologically insecure and narcissistic and access to the top secrets of the US government is NPD crack.
    In this sense, Trump constitutes perhaps the biggest national security threat the counter-intelligence community has ever faced: A intellectually-deficient former President with an ego so fragile that to shore it up he will reveal absolutely any vital intelligence secrets to whomever he thinks he needs to impress — golf buddies, Saudi businessmen, hookers he sees. Whomever. It’s not about money. It’s about his self-esteem. And it’s a bottomless black hole.​

  94. 94.

    karen marie

    Welp.

    newly uncovered photos and video footage of January 6 show that [George Santos‘] attorney, Joseph Murray, was in the angry pro-Trump mob that trespassed on Capitol grounds.

  95. 95.

    eversor

    @Jeffro:

    Nobody cared when he wouldn’t go to the Omaha graves because it was raining and would fuck up his hair and was all “screw them they died”.  Never mind that the French (those cheese eating wine drinking cowards who beat the British for us when we fought for independence) show up each fucking year to carry sand from the beach up to the graves to rub it back into the names on the graves.  So the names still can be read, and are stood out in dark sand over white marble at least once a year with a flower placed before them.

    It was just a blip, and then off we went to the next issue.  But that speaks volumes.

  97. 97.

    jonas

    @Captain C: ​
      Sure, but Jared wasn’t trading (as far as we know) on US intelligence secrets, but access/influence. Which apparently, when Hunter Biden does it, is the crime of the century. But IOKIYAR, as ever.

  98. 98.

    C Stars

    I want to skip to the part where they exhume Ivana’s grave in the golf course and find a bunch of classified documents there.

  99. 99.

    opiejeanne

    @WaterGirl: I was working on a quilt for my step-grandson, since the one I made him originally has ended up on the wall, because I got carried away and it turned into Art. This one will go on his bed. I was puzzling out how to create blocks using fabric that had various-sized vignettes from Rogue One, and missed the announcment because I got tired and watched some Star Trek Voyager. I glanced at my phone at about 5pm, thinking we needed to close up the greenhouse, and saw the news. We got our flag out, hung it up, and have been watching MSNBC ever since. Can’t stand Ari Melber, but there were lots of great guests on tonight. Lawrence managed to find Rachel somewhere, and she looked like she hadn’t had time to put on much makeup. It wasn’t her usual look, and we speculated that she was fishing and this was the earliest they could get her in front of a computer. I thought this would be coming next week, so SURPRISE!

    Today was a great day for Democracy. Tomorrow we will fly the flag again in celebration again, and again on Tuesday.

  100. 100.

    karen marie

    These motherfuckers have no pride.

    DeSantis says his rival is victim of political ‘weaponization’
    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is condemning the indictment of Donald Trump, his chief rival for the Republican presidential nomination, as a political hatchet job.
    “The weaponization of federal law enforcement represents a mortal threat to a free society. We have for years witnessed an uneven application of the law depending upon political affiliation,” DeSantis tweeted.
    “Why so zealous in pursuing Trump yet so passive about Hillary or Hunter?” he adds.
    DeSantis also promised to end what he called political bias and to “bring accountability” to the Department of Justice if elected.
    Other high-ranking Republicans, including House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, have used similar language in their responses to the indictment, which they are portraying as political persecution.
    ____
    McCarthy says indictment ‘unconscionable’
    House Speaker Kevin McCarthy tweeted that “it is unconscionable for a President to indict the leading candidate opposing him.”
    The Republican added, “I, and every American who believes in the rule of law, stand with President Trump against this grave injustice.”

    McCarthy said the House GOP “will hold this brazen weaponization of power accountable.”
    House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, meanwhile, said the indictment was a “sham” and “the continuation of the endless political persecution of Donald Trump.”
    “Let’s be clear about what’s happening: Joe Biden is weaponizing his Department of Justice against his own political rival,” Scalise tweeted.

    DeSaster appears to be campaigning to be TFIG’s VP. Scalise and McCarthy are giving him a run for his money.

  102. 102.

    Jim Vandewalker

    @jonas: Bingo. You can find picture on line of Trump’s desk in Trump Tower piled high with stuff: reports, proposals, publicity, stuff. Stuff he obviously didn’t read; stuff he kept on his desk because if made him look like a busy important businessman. And I will guarantee that there was a desk in the President’s Study off the Oval Office that looked like that: piled with stuff. Probably one in the Residence too. I think there have been reports that after briefings he kept materials. And of course no briefer can say, “Sorry Mr. President, you have to give that back now.”

    So on Jan 20 when he finally realized he was going to have to leave the White House he just ordered all the stuff swept into boxes and shipped to MAL.

    And now he can’t explain why he kept all that stuff. Not even to himself. Trump’s Razor: “ascertain the stupidest possible scenario that can be reconciled with the available facts” and that answer is likely correct.(Josh TPM)

  103. 103.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @karen marie:

    McCarthy said the House GOP “will hold this brazen weaponization of power accountable.”

    House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, meanwhile, said the indictment was a “sham” and “the continuation of the endless political persecution of Donald Trump.”

    “Let’s be clear about what’s happening: Joe Biden is weaponizing his Department of Justice against his own political rival,” Scalise tweeted.

    Good luck doing that with the crazies shutting down the House.

    McCarthy says indictment ‘unconscionable’

    House Speaker Kevin McCarthy tweeted that “it is unconscionable for a President to indict the leading candidate opposing him.”

    Then it’s a good thing the President didn’t actually do that, the independent DOJ through a legally appointed special counsel did by convincing a federal judge with evidence

  104. 104.

    Redshift

    My pet wingnut I follow retweeted one of his compatriots responding to an FBI recruitment tweet. He was ranting about “Yeah, get trained to hate your country, lock up political enemies,” blah blah blah.

    It’s just so bizarre. I mean, leaving aside that all law enforcement and especially the FBI is heavily right wing, there’s the J6 thing where they showed that “blue lives matter” only when they’re beating up brown people, and on top of that that they’ve been braying for their political opponents to be locked up immediately.

    I guess I shouldn’t be shaking my head so much, it’s not hypocrisy because they don’t really have principles, just desired outcomes.

  106. 106.

    Raoul Paste

    I went to the live taping of Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me in Chicago tonight.    They managed to sneak in a news question about Donald Trump‘s indictment.
    The show will probably air Saturday

  107. 107.

    opiejeanne

    @Ruckus: I hate that. I had a very nasty case of it about 6 weeks ago. It was debilitating. I lost 2 pounds really quickly, but I’d rather not lose weight that way.

  108. 108.

    RaflW

    @WV Blondie: Yeah, just seeing that this day has whipped cream and a Luxardo cherry (not some red dye maraschino crap) on top:

    AUSTIN — Jun 8, 2023 — Nate Paul, the man at the center of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s impeachment, is in jail on an FBI detainer, according to jail records.

    Paul, 36, was booked into the Travis County jail at 4:25 p.m. Thursday on “undetermined” felony charges. The arresting agency is the Federal Bureau of Investigation. No attorney for Paul was listed. …

    One of Paxton’s impeachment attorneys, Dan Cogdell, said he didn’t know what the charges were and that the FBI did not reach out to him ahead of time. But he assumes they involve Paxton in some way, and added that he believes the FBI is going to try to get Paul to turn on his client.

    “You don’t have to be Nostradamus to assume that they’re going to try to flip Nate Paul to testify against Ken [Paxton].

  110. 110.

    Captain C

    @jonas: Jared likely would see having access to whatever TFG pilfered as a business opportunity, I would think, and probably wouldn’t have too much trouble making copies or just swiping them, given the level of security and general cluefulness at Trump’s various properties.

  112. 112.

    C Stars

    @Redshift: yeah, it really seems like they are living in reality TV world, where everything is transparently scripted and the loudest and most venal contestant wins. It’s not really about personal values for these GOPers, just about putting on a good show. Hence their stupid catchphrase that everyone who isn’t on their side “hates America”

  115. 115.

    Jackie

    @opiejeanne: YES hang the flag! I’m taking flowers and a mini USA flag out to my Dad’s niche tomorrow. He’d hoped to outlive TIFG to pee on his grave, but flowers and a flag will be a close substitute.

  116. 116.

    RaflW

    @Jeffro: I had to google Asa Hutchinson’s name, because I’d totally forgotten who he is. Good for him for (the appearance of) having values. But it’s a desperate hail mary for attention.

  117. 117.

    RandomMonster

    @jonas: all things being equal, the stupidest explanation is the most likely

    I can do that one, too, though. Donald Trump is only concerned about getting money, because he’s a collasal fuckup who loses more money than he makes. So he was shopping secrets for cash, plain and simple. He already knew it worked for Jared.

  118. 118.

    scav

    @Matt McIrvin: You got the order wrong! Criming first, then the get out of consequences maneuver. Don’t want to waste a minute — time is profit.

  119. 119.

    JWR

    I wish those WATB writer’s would get their lazy asses back to work, cuz I’m really jonesin’ for some fresh Colbert and Seth Meyers!

    //s, jk, KIDDDING! ;)

  120. 120.

    RaflW

    @karen marie: Since it is patently obvious that DeSantis has no interest whatsoever in “a free society”, all the blather surrounding that phrase is as null and as void as his moral compass.

  122. 122.

    Nettoyeur

    @zhena gogolia:  Yale Law school has some ‘splaining to do. There is also the charming bit that for years,  Trump and his supporters have been threatening to lock up (or worse) their opponents en masse without any due process at all.

  123. 123.

    NotMax

    Will Ivanka find an excuse to leave Miami on Tuesday?

    “I- I- I had to wash my hair. In Texas.”

  124. 124.

    RaflW

    @Redshift: How long will the right wingers stay working at the FBI if all they hear from their fellow travelers is how terrible it is. They might sustain four years thinking they can ‘outlast’ Biden, but the rising hatred of the FBI by the GOP — including some pretty high level electeds — is not that likely to abate either way. They were already developing some of this pathology before J.6.

  125. 125.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @mvr: ​
    Ticks are nasty little creatures. They are probably pro-Trump.*

    *Dear ticks, my apologies if that was going too far for even your disease carrying, blood sucking, little souls.

  127. 127.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Many People Are Saying Tweeting that Marge confessed to a crime on national television tonight

    Acyn @Acyn

    Greene: The FBI is stonewalling us and they would only let us see it in a scif. What I did after reading the document is made notes when I walked out and went to the table. I wrote down everything that I had just read.

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    thruppence

    Just got home after a stop at a late night beverage store. Now, to pop that cork!

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    Sally

    @C Stars: It is not only transparently scripted, but then edited to hell and back so that the person they choose to win, looks like they might have won. I’m sure some of them think this works IRL too.

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    Kay

    I’m thrilled he was indicted. We were at a patio table at a bar in Cleveland and suddenly everyone was looking at their phones.

    Spot on prediction, Watergirl.

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    Geminid

    @karen marie: I doubt that DeSantis is campaigning to be Trump’s VP. He needs to beat Trump while alienating Trump’s hard-core followers as little as possible, though. DeSantis can’t win the general election if they stay home. The Republicans’ numbers problem is bad enough as it is.

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    Barry

    @jonas: “Garland prosecuted McVeigh FFS and Smith has taken on honest-to-dog war criminals at the Hague. I think they know what the fuck they’re doing.”

     

    The thing is that that meant *nothing*.  Going after politically and economically helpless people who the US Govt opposed is different than taking on politically well-connected people.

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    Uncle Cosmo

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): And last but not least, Trump has been indicated indicted!

    FTFY, boychik.

    It’s the kind of day that must make some of the less savory amongst us lament the fact that indicted is not pronounced as spelled – i.e., “in-dick-ted” – for values of “dick” including “rusty chainsaw dusted with anthrax spores.”

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