Nothing like discovering you’ve been indicted on 31 37* counts of various national security law violations (including, apparently, sharing military secrets with any car dealer from Grosse Pointe willing to cough up the Bedminster entry fee**) and then losing two of your top lawyers–the ones who just took the “Yup. He’s going to be indicted” meeting with the DoJ):
“A firm to be named later” is simply perfection. It’s kind of like trading an MLB starter for a bag of snacks and a minor league utility infielder with a noodle arm.
I’ll repeat here advice I gave yesterday on social media, free, gratis, and for nothing: any Florida-licensed attorney considering taking on this client needs to get paid up front for the estimate (with a generous contingency) of what it’ll take to work from indictment to verdict.
Even if the money’s coming from Trump’s PAC, would you want to bet on his honoring any invoice presented after a conviction?
Anyway–there’s a long road ahead and there are no sure things except for Box Hoax in the fourth at an upstate track where the local wise guys have taken an interest. So we have to take our schadenfreude when it’s offered, right?
This thread is as open as the 24-hour Denny’s in Sparks, Nevada.
**Might be hyperbole. Might not. Impossible to tell with this guy.
Image: Thomas Eakins, Baseball players practicing, 1875.
raven
A little something extra!
El Cruzado
He ran out of good lawyers quite a while ago, didn’t he?
raven
When my brother graduated from McGeorge Law School we had a post graduation party at the Denny’s next to the hotel. They brought my old man the bill and I thought his eyes were going to pop out of his head. Someone had badly miscalculated and he made out like a bandit!!
Dorothy A. Winsor
I saw that “firm to be named later” somewhere and thought it was a joke.
raven
@El Cruzado: From the last thread (and Better Call Saul)
Jay C
BTW, I only just noticed (after someone posted a highlighted copy on the ‘Net) that that by-now-well-circulated photo of those document boxes piled up in that Mar-a-Lago bathroom also shows some items (a stack of more boxes, apparently), piled in the bathtub, and shrouded by the shower curtain pulled across.
Obviously, when advised that Classified documents ought to, properly, be stored in a “SCIF”, Trump or his people seem to have interpreted that requirement as “Shower Curtain In Front”….
Geminid
@El Cruzado: They say Todd Blanche is a good attorney. It’s probably 50-50 odds that Blanche will make it to the trial, though. Even if Trump pays, he’ll be an awful client.
Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)
Trump must be down to ambulance chasers at this point. Who else would take his case(s)?
Never mind, I know plenty of lawyers who don’t regret those deals with their souls being held as collateral. Looking at you, Federalist Society.
Scout211
I thought it was 37 counts.
WaterGirl
@El Cruzado: I believe he ran out of good lawyers before he started!
gene108
I’m surprised Congressional Republicans defending Trump haven’t invoked the Divine Right of Republican Presidents to never be held accountable for anything.
It’s in the Constitution Jesus wrote and gave to the Founders.
JCJ
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Where the Milwaukee Brewers play (American Family Field – what a horrible name) there is a restaurant overlooking the diamond from left field. At one time it was called “Restaurant To Be Named Later”. It is now called Leinenkugel’s Barrel Yard.
Tom Levenson
@Scout211: Thanks. Corrected.
NotMax
Plugging Sparks?
:)
Tom Levenson
@JCJ: I would have loved to have a beer in the RTBNL
raven
@Scout211: nope
japa21
@JCJ: Not a great name, but the insurance company paid good money to get their name there. Most stadiums now have stupid sounding names, just like bowl games.
Tom Levenson
@NotMax: I get the play…
But as someone who has had the experience of drinking tequila in Sparks on one of the top three most stressful nights of my life…ain’t plugging that burg. Not now, not ever.
Tom Levenson
@raven: Yup. 37 counts. My mistake was to focus on the 31 counts targeting willful retention of defense info.
NotMax
@japa21
What, no Preparation H Field?
//
JCJ
@japa21: Oh I know. It is still Miller Park in my mind. I think it is funny that they renamed the road from Miller Park Way to Brewers Way. At least some of Leinenkugel’s offerings are acceptable. Not Chimay or Pilsner Urquell, but acceptable.
japa21
@NotMax: I think that’s a minor league park.
JCJ
@NotMax: That is for the players who sit on the bench for a long time.
MattF
I don’t see TFG hiring lawyers who will both be honest with him and will last through any trial. Bear in mind that “You’re fired” was the thematic phrase in his reality show. It’s a question of behavioral repertoire.
Alison Rose
I don’t know if this is a reference I’m not getting, but my dad’s father was born in Sparks, so…hey. Nice.
Sister Golden Bear
@Tom Levenson: Reno ain’t Hell, but you can see Sparks from there. <rimshot>
Miss Bianca
Ahem…she said, wincing slightly at her own pedantry, but still…as a former Grosse Pointer, may I point out, grossly or no, that “Grosse Pointe” has an “e” on the end? ‘Tis French, after all…
kalakal
@japa21: The UK has some horrors
eg The Cashpoint Arena and The Totally Wicked Stadium.
My favourite is The Bargain Booze Stadium
C Stars
There’s something so tawdry about hiding documents in a bathtub. No joke, a former employer of mine used to do that and several years after I left he was found guilty of embezzlement.
Elizabelle
@Tom Levenson:
Do you want us to ask about that one?
Scout211
Update on lawyers. link
I don’t know how accurate this is, but CNN is now saying that Trump
firedremoved Trusty and Rowley this morning, despite their resignation letters. This makes more sense.Tom Levenson
@Elizabelle: Nope.
scav
@NotMax: I always wanted Ty-d-Bol to up their football sponsorship.
Especially after the design of Soldiers Field landed.
Tom Levenson
@Miss Bianca: Ooops.
Fix’t.
Thanks for the correction.
sdhays
At this point, what difference would a good legal team make compared to a bad one? Trump tried to manipulate his previous legal team to lie to the FBI, and the FBI has proof of this. That’s not someone who takes legal advice he doesn’t want to hear, and even if he’s now sufficiently scared to take legal advice he doesn’t want to hear, unless the FBI really fucked up somewhere, does it matter how good his lawyers are at this point?
Scout211
Age 24, moving to California with all my worldly belongings stuffed into my little subcompact (well, as many worldly belongings as a poor grad student could possess) my car was broken into outside of a motel in Sparks. I have bad memories from there myself.
Spanky
Just to remind youse guys, that’s 37 counts – so far.
Omnes Omnibus
Got yer objective recusal standard right here
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
But did she exchange pleasantries with Melania on a tarmac?
Scout211
@Omnes Omnibus: Whoa!
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Good point.
Miss Bianca
@Tom Levenson: Thank’ee, sir. Carry on!
Omnes Omnibus
@Scout211: A bit more than just Trump appointed, huh?
Ken
@C Stars: Now, now. As I understand it, the bathroom was just temporary storage, to hide them from the people who were trying to retrieve the stolen documents. Once they left, the boxes were moved back to the
securestorage in the grand ballroom.Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
Why didn’t that come out the first time with the search warrant lawsuit?
mvr
Imagine having to sit next to that guy for a week or perhaps even two of his trial and having to pretend you like him. You have to do that for the jury. So it helps if you can like him.
I worked as a legal investigator/trial assistant for a good criminal lawyer. I usually went to court with my boss because we were pretty high end and it was advantageous to have an extra perspective on what was going on. We generally liked our clients, even the ones charge w murder and such. They might have been assholes to everyone else but they were nice to us; we were often their only hope of avoiding big trouble. And most people, even most people accused of crimes, have a good side. So you can like them for that good side. And you feel genuinely upset when you lose a case for your client, as you sometimes will.
But with Trump all of the liking behavior would have to be pretense, and a difficult pretense. Not worth any amount of money to do that job.
PsiFighter37
I think I am riding a schadenfraude high that is higher than is possibly recordable.
PF37 +3 and counting
UncleEbeneezer
Anyone else watching Daisy Jones & The Six on Amazon? It’s a 1970’s drama about a band that hits the big time that shares many similarities with The Eagles and Fleetwood Mac. I wouldn’t say it’s must-see or “prestige” tv, but it’s fun and has great costumes, styling and retro Los Angeles locations. The music is good, but nothing to write home about. But if you love 70’s nostalgia, it might be up your alley.
smith
@Ken: Or whisked away to Bedminster or some unknown undisclosed location. Am I reading it correctly that there are still at least 30 boxes of documents unaccounted for?
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: It’s not my day to do oppo research.
Shana
@kalakal: Are those real?
mvr
@sdhays: There are going to be legal issues on which you’d rather have a good lawyer than a bad one. Challenging warrants, keeping evidence out, chain of custody, providing a foundation for the introduction of evidence in an appropriate way, qualifying witnesses, etc.
Of course having a good lawyer is more of an advantage when you are up against a bad lawyer and all indications are that Smith is pretty good himself.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@Baud: @Omnes Omnibus: why didn’t it come up in her confirmation hearing?
[rhetorical question, no need to reply]
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
Fine. But I expect it on my desk by Tuesday.
C Stars
@Ken: The documents were taking a grand tour of Mar A Lago.
Ken
@smith: I dunno, I still haven’t had time to read the thing. In a way I don’t want to — that way when I see comments like Tom Levenson‘s saying that 31 of the 37 counts are for defense info, I can imagine the other 6 are for, oh, cannibalism, sex trafficking, and witchcraft.
Omnes Omnibus
@Shana: That’s a very Trumpian question.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: So they could bring it out now?
eta: the search warrant was a slam dunk? so why use all their ammo on fish in a barrel? why not hold it back for when you really need it?
smith
All in good time. We’ve still got a couple grand juries to go.
Dan B
@japa21: Seattle’s newly renovated hockey stadium is named Climate Change Arena. It has something to do with not wanting winter disappearing.
C Stars
There are so many news articles about this…does anyone know WHY the lawyers left/were booted? Did TFG see them as failures because he got indicted? Or did they resign because they are legally exposed?
geg6
@japa21:
Yes, one of my major bugaboos. Heinz Field will always be just that to me and pretty much all the people of Pittsburgh. No one knows WTF Acrisure even is, let alone has any idea what connection it has with Pittsburgh and the Steelers. Everyone knows the connection of Heinz to Pittsburgh. If they ever rename PPG Paints Arena, I will similarly always call it PPG Paints Arena. Everyone knows the ties between PPG and Pittsburgh.
craigie
@japa21:
Since this is an open thread, I’ll just note for the record that I am constantly grateful for the fact that the Hollywood Bowl is still called the Hollywood Bowl and not the AT&T Hollywood Bowl, and that the Greek Theater is still called the Greek Theater and not the Verizon Greek Theater, or some such.
I hope I haven’t jinxed it.
That is all.
Immanentize
Dispatches from the Immp:
The kids are alrighty.
Baud
@Immanentize:
Immp is alrighty.
geg6
@UncleEbeneezer:
I found it fun. But then, I graduated high school in 1977. And my boyfriend was the guitar player in a fairly successful local rock band. So, ummm…kinda a slice of my life there.
Immanentize
Also, too. Getting rid of your lawyers when indictments roll out is move number one to slow down the process.
(Also it is probably a smart idea to move to very serious criminal defense attorneys at this point.)
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize: Well said, and a pat on the back for his Daddy who raised him.
Immanentize
@Baud: 👍
japa21
@geg6: And American Family has ties to Wisconsin as it is headquartered in Madison. BTW, its also an excellent insurance company.
Karen
Does the fact that the jury will be in Florida and it’s Judge Aileen (sp) Cannon weigh heavily in Trump’s favor?
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: Don’t forget his Mom who taught him to love Hilary! He got both barrels, poor kid.
SuzieC
@mvr: Especially since he wears a diaper.
Redshift
@NotMax:
No, but there’s a venue near Manassas, VA called “Jiffy Lube Live,” which locals have nicknamed “The Lube.”
RaflW
@Baud: Dahlia Lithwick and Mark Stern had that photo on a 2022 article in Slate. Didn’t get traction then, tho, I guess.
Delk
And the chef’s kiss: Garland issued a statement in honor of Pride Month.
bk
@Baud: It isn’t her.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
Lionel Hutz & Associates
Immanentize
@Karen: I can take this one: No.
Federal juries are really different than State juries. Most states have (with some fed pressure) gone to “motor voter” lists to pick juror pools. So does the Fed system, but the area that a federal jury pool (where I clerked for the Chief Judge of the Southern District) is much wider — think less city and more surrounding burbs and rural areas. We used to marvel (I was a state public defender in Miami after) how federal juries show up in ties and nice dresses! They are definitely conservative, but not from what I still know, crazy Trumpy. Con? It only takes one to hang a jury.
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize: No, never. My boys came out alright. I’m pretty sure their mother had something to do with it, between her stints in prison, even if I am hard pressed to see it. I am happy for you.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: Totally objective
It’s unseemly for a judge to be taking so blatant a political position. Am I wrong about that? Is that totally kosher
I want to know when the photo was taken.
Baud
@bk:
That’s no excuse not to use it.
Redshift
@JCJ: A friend of mine lived on Temporary Road when she first moved here.
Baud
@Delk:
Nine days late. Feckless.
JPL
@Immanentize: Sweet!
Immanentize
@OzarkHillbilly: Shall we start a self-help program promoting partnering with those once (or in the future) referred to as “Convict?”
Uhhh, no. Your kids are, I dare say, your kids. Miss you, bro. And I want paella.
RaflW
@craigie: That it isn’t the Chobani Flip Zero Sugar Greek Theater is frankly totally surprising in 2023.
JPL
@WaterGirl: From my understanding, she can delay the trial until after the election. I can’t imagine that the special counsel isn’t ready for this though.
hah My understanding comes from information that I found on the web, so take that with a grain of salt.
Maybe Imma will add to it.
Jackie
I left for TWO HOURS and I still haven’t caught up with you all! At least I’ve made it to this post! Now I need to back up and read it😁
MattF
Good summary of how TrumpWorld operates.
WaterGirl
@C Stars: Trump complained earlier this week about happy talk from his lawyers, who (Trump says) told him it was unlikely that he would actually be indicted.
Just speculating, but since Trump never takes responsibility for anything, he has to blame the lawyers. Publicly. Because he needs people to know (believe) that it’s not Trump’s fault. He is the victim. AGAIN.
What kind of people are drawn to people who are always the victim? Water finds its own level..
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@UncleEbeneezer:
Digya see “Licorice Pizza“? Phenomenally delightful love story from Paul Thomas Anderson (“Boogie Nights”, “There Will Be Blood”) full of 70s nostalgia.
WaterGirl
@RaflW: Article is dated Sept 2022.
I have lost track of time. When was Cannon involved in the case?
Wapiti
@Omnes Omnibus: Holy… For real? She should have recused the first time he appeared before her.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud:
Speaking of…. Has anyone seen Cacti?
brendancalling
@smith: DIG UP IVANA.
MomSense
@Immanentize:
You’ve got one of the good ones there. Makes me happy.
Maxim
@geg6: Candlestick Park (SF) will always be Candlestick to me. I don’t even pay attention to the nom du jour.
moops
It will be fun to see Trump and his team scramble when Smith drops the DC indictment on them.
geg6
@japa21:
See?!?! I had no idea it was an insurance company. Never heard of it before. Don’t know anyone else who has either. We’ve all been scratching our heads ever since it was announced. Meh. Who cares? It is Heinz Field.
Shit always comes back around. There’s a big concert venue here that was named Starlake Amphitheater when it was built thirty or so years ago. Then it was named for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Then the name switched to a regional bank. It may have had one or two other names along the way, but everyone continued to call it Starlake. And what do you know? A couple years ago, it changed back to Starlake, as it truly was all along.
Yutsano
I swear y’all are enjoying this too much. I just don’t want things to drag too long.
Immanentize
@MomSense: Moi Aussi!
And he is getting good pay for his internship this summer. Happy Dad.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: Nothing since we were talking about Lichti being fired.
And that was BEFORE the indictments.
JPL
@moops: You think?
Yutsano
@geg6: The original Seahawks stadium was named Qwest Field (local comms company) bought out then became CenturyLink Field and is now the silly Lumen Field. But thanks to CenturyLink it’s the Clink. And I don’t think anyone around calls it differently.
JPL
@Immanentize: That’s awesome.
OzarkHillbilly
@Immanentize:
Why not? My sons love her even if I can’t bear to say “Hello.” to her. I will do anything for them. Hell’s bells, I already have.
Ummm… No. I mean, they are always my sons, but they are also men in their own right. I taught them to think for themselves (as best I could) and they do. Who am I to complain when they come to different conclusions than mine? They are 2 strong men who think for themselves and accept that I don’t always agree with them. I have to do the same for them.
And I you.
We should set a date and a place for the paella. I’m pretty sure your place gets better seafood that ours, tho my NOLA son’s is damned fine too.
SiubhanDuinne
@MattF:
That was a good read! Thanks.
Betty Cracker
It’s a baseball and schadenfreude-fest evening, so the illustration is perfect, Tom!
C Stars
It’s so difficult with the MAGA regime to separate out what is sheer pettiness and what is actual incompetence.
Frankensteinbeck
@Karen:
My understanding is that because the judge performed so badly that the 11th Circuit had to tell her off on the last case, if she does anything suspicious Smith can ask and probably get the 11th Circuit to remove and replace her.
Redshift
@WaterGirl: I don’t think it’s just blame-shifting. TFG has a lifelong reputation for surrounding himself with yes-men. Sure, that means he can conveniently blame them for agreeing with him, but I don’t think that’s the primary motivation/pathology.
C Stars
@Maxim: Candlestick park is well on its way to being reclaimed by nature since the niners moved to San Jose or Santa Clara or whatever it is.
Roger Moore
@sdhays:
Good lawyers could help with damage mitigation.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Omnes Omnibus:
@WaterGirl:
How much you want to bet if he shows up he’ll seamlessly switch to, “They took too long!”
Betty Cracker
@Immanentize: Well said, kiddo!
frosty
It’s raining here on the Mason-Dixon Line!!! It’s been quite awhile – probably because I just finished watering the veggie garden and I thought about getting my car washed today.
Also, we’ll be camping (trailer) for a few days next week so the weather is getting in some practice for us.
Roger Moore
@craigie:
The Rose Bowl is still the Rose Bowl, and LA Memorial Colosseum is still LA Memorial Colosseum. OTOH, Staples Center, which wasn’t a great name to begin with, is now Crypto.com Arena, which is just terrible. I kind of hope Crypto.com gets in enough legal trouble that some of it rubs off, just to punish the venue for associating themselves with such an awful sponsor.
japa21
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
No, he’ll start in on the Jan 6 debacle and why they haven’t indicted Trump on that yet. After all, that was the more serious crime. This is nothing compared to that.. They just went after the low hanging fruit and…
japa21
@Roger Moore:
Since we’re talking about sports commercial tie-ins, it is so nice to watch a baseball game and not see FTX on the umps.
Steeplejack
@Immanentize:
Lord, I went over to Fox News for five minutes a while ago to see if they were doing “Six Tasty Summer Salads” or something, but they were actually “covering” the indictment. Jeanine Pirro did an extended, unhinged rant, louder and screechier than I’ve ever heard her. And she was bringing in everything and the kitchen sink, including targeted persecution by (senile) Biden and Hillary stole 33,000 documents and destroyed them. Even some of her co-panelists were looking like “back away and don’t make eye contact.”
MomSense
@Ken:
Ha!
UncleEbeneezer
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: We tried Licorice Pizza but just couldn’t get into. The notion of an attractive 20-something woman, being attracted to a 15 year old boy was just too weird and unrealistic. We just kept asking “so why is she supposed to be into him?” and never found a sufficient reason.
twbrandt
@Omnes Omnibus: or Sanjeevs
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Roger Moore:
I’m surprised Crypto.com can afford the sponsorship after the 2022 crypto crash. BTC still hasn’t recovered its highs of a few years ago 2021-2022
BTC as of June 9, 2023, looking back 5 years
Delk
Byline Bank Aragon Ballroom sigh
Rand Careaga
@Tom Levenson:
In 1974, while hitching from Santa Cruz to Colorado Springs, I was harassed by a pair of Sparks police, the second-nastiest I’d ever encountered—although, in fairness, a distant second, measured against the trio who beat me up in Southern California (“We don’t like your kind”—i.e., longhairs—“around here”) three years earlier. The Sparks constabulary contented themselves with tossing the contents of my knapsack for drugs. Being a septuagenarian sucks in certain respects, but an upside is that the cops no longer view me as lawful prey.
Shalimar
I wonder if Trump’s lawyers realize the FBI is going to raid all his properties including Bedminster during the arraignment on Tuesday looking for the remaining documents? DoJ knows Trump still has national security secrets. He hasn’t left them any other way to recover them.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@japa21:
LOL, like this isn’t. National security and espionage is a big effen deal. People who seriously argue that are idiots
Roger Moore
@Maxim:
It doesn’t exist anymore. It was replaced for baseball with Pacific Bell Park (later ATT Park, now Oracle Park) and for football with Levi’s Stadium.
frosty
@UncleEbeneezer:
I haven’t watched Daisy Jones and the Six, but having lived all over SoCal in the 70s, it sounds like something I’d like to see. Thanks!
OzarkHillbilly
That statement alone deserves a thumbs up.
Craig
@Maxim: um, Candlestick is a flattened pile of rubble in Hunter’s Point. They bulldozed it in 2015. All the folks I know just call the place the Giants play The Yard.
MomSense
This is my favorite synopsis so far.
https://twitter.com/metroadlib/status/1667248343255220227?s=46&t=93kFM-bONPkGsWNzo_AKLQ Fooler Initiative
Roger Moore
@UncleEbeneezer:
You’ll hear about a high school teacher getting pregnant by a 15-year-old student now and then, so it’s definitely something that happens. I’ve pointed out in the past that you can see something about how our society views boys’ vs. girls’ sexuality by the different way we treat a male teacher having sex with a female student and a female teacher having sex with a male student.
Eunicecycle
@MomSense: that’s pretty hilarious.
Shana
@geg6: Same with National Airport in DC and Sears Tower in Chicago
Eric S.
@japa21: Wrigley Field and Busch Stadium probably sounded stupid 70+ years ago.
252man
Maxim
@C Stars: That’s what I get for living in the hinterlands of LA for years; I’d lost track. I didn’t even know it had been demolished.
Rand Careaga
@OzarkHillbilly: Unfortunately, alas, segments of the Oakland lumpenproletariat do. It’s a tradeoff.
Roger Moore
@Eric S.:
Both Wrigley Field and Busch Stadium were named for the team owners, which was very common at the time, e.g. Shibe Field, Ebbetts Field, Comiskey Field, Griffith Stadium, etc. It’s true that both owners also owned businesses that carried their names, but that was apparently considered to be OK. Apparently, August Busch originally wanted to name his new stadium Budweiser Stadium, but that was blocked for being excessively commercial*. Instead, he named the stadium after himself and then named a new beer after himself, too.
*It’s odd what’s considered too commercial. Baseball blocked things like stadiums named after businesses and commercial logos on uniforms, but it allowed ads on the outfield fences.
JWR
@craigie:
I’ll bet you’re really upset about Crypto DOT Com arena, huh? ;)
JerrytheMacGuy
@Roger Moore: And Dodger Stadium is – rightfully – still Dodger Stadium.
I prefer to call the place where the NBA Lakers, Clippers and NHL Kings play “Staples Center” and not “Crypto CON”. I don’t think I’m alone in L.A.
Quiltingfool
@Roger Moore: This case is going to require damage mitigation. I mean, he took the documents, bragged about it, tried to hide them from investigators…what kind of defense can you have? I mean a REASONABLE defense, not whackadoodle bullshit.
Any lawyer taking on that hot mess needs to get a shitload of money up front. You know TFG won’t plead out, although he should.
karen marie
I haven’t done a single constructive thing today because I cannot stop laughing.
Cry more motherfucker!
Another Scott
Meanwhile, … DW.com:
Today seems to be Find Out Day for all kinds of infamous actors.
Good, good.
Cheers,
Scott.
JWR
@Roger Moore:
Didn’t Staples Center go by a different name prior to being Staples Center?
WaterGirl
@MomSense: Oh my god, that is awesome. I will front page that for sure.
I wonder if it is unrolled anywhere?
karen marie
@JPL: Even without Cannon, given there will be endless motions filed by both sides – as happens in every case – it is unlikely that a trial would happen in less than a year.
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: Timing is everything!
Baud
@Another Scott:
Brexit didn’t foreclose that option?
Roger Moore
@JerrytheMacGuy:
I thought it was telling that Arte Moreno, a guy who made his money in the advertising business, kept Angel Stadium named after the team rather than trying to squeeze out some extra money by selling naming rights. I think he was right from a purely commercial standpoint. The team can benefit from the advertising aspect of the stadium name more than anyone else.
Baud
My favorite comment so far (from Reddit) about the indictment.
Roger Moore
@JWR:
Nope. Staples bought the naming rights before construction was even finished. That’s more and more often the case these days. The naming rights are factored in when making the economic decisions about building the venue, and knowing how much they can sell them for helps solidify the financing.
Sure Lurkalot
@OzarkHillbilly:
In case you want to make it in a backyard, this recipe is good, especially the broth. I usually add chicken and/or andouille.
https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/grilled-seafood-paella
trollhattan
@UncleEbeneezer: Pretty fun and agree, recommended, and not necessarily just for “folks of a certain age.”
Somewhere in the process of plowing through the episodes, watch “Licorice Pizza.”
PJ
@Sure Lurkalot: I think you may have invented jambalaya.
trollhattan
@Roger Moore: The weirdest effing thing was when Seattle’s “Century Link”–the Clink–became Lumen Stadium because the stupid company changed their name.
Don’t mess with nicknames.
Poor Sue
@C Stars: I think Rowley and Trusty are not admitted to the bar in Florida, which doesn’t have reciprocity. That would leave Lindsey Halligan as lead counsel although she’s far less experienced.
Another Scott
@Baud: Made me look…
The European Convention on Human Rights and the European Court of Human Rights exist separately from the European Union. The Supreme Court’s relationship with the Strasbourg Court is not, therefore, changed by the UK’s exit from the European Union.
Though the UK government is apparently trying to get out of ECHR, which is warning that would cause the post-Brexit trade agreement to be void.
Lots of moving parts. And it looks like Assange is unlikely to be saved by any of them. (IANAL)
HTH!
Cheers,
Scott.
JWR
@Roger Moore:
Thank you! And I agree about Angel’s Stadium, but most of all, my beloved Dodger Stadium, one of the most beautfullest stadiums in all of baseball.
Sure Lurkalot
@PJ:
Without even trying!?!
The first time I had paella, it was cooked outdoors over flame in about a 3’ diameter paella pan. The F&W recipe is the closest I’ve gotten to a similar crust on the rice.
WaterGirl
@Poor Sue: That makes sense about Rowley and Trusty.
Oh my gosh, is Halligan the one that normally handles real estate matters, or something like that? Oh my god, it’s like a clown show.
Trump and company must have felt pretty sure that the case would be brought in DC.
SFBayAreaGal
I haven’t seen Villago Delenda Est post in quite awhile. Has anyone heard anything from Villago Delenda Est?
Timill
@Craig: My Bay Area friends all know it as Emperor Norton I Field.
Another Scott
@Omnes Omnibus: The “context” addition below the tweet says that’s not Cannon. True? No idea.
FWIW.
Cheers,
Scott.
Jackie
@karen marie: Jack Smith is dedicated to having a speedy trial. I hope he succeeds. Given his track record of being assigned to both MAL and J6 AND getting an indictment on the MAL case inside of EIGHT MONTHS – my money is on him.
frosty
@Sure Lurkalot: The first time I had paella was Casa Bodin in Madrid. The second time was cooked over an open fire on a picnic in France (a bit better than the US picnics of hot dogs and burgers!). I cheat a little, and use a Weber grill, but the last time I made it I managed to get the crust on the rice.
IMHO you can’t use too much saffron.
karen marie
@Jackie: “Speedy trial” can mean a lot of things. I have full faith in Jack Smith but it’s the nature of complex cases to take a year to get to jury impanelment. And this is TFIG. He’ll do whatever he can to drag this out to as close to November 2025 as he can get.
People need to not get hysterical when the trial hasn’t started by September.
Ruckus
@Geminid:
I’d bet he’ll be gone less than 5 minutes after he finishes opening for the actual trial, because he won’t be able to get a word in any way, what with SFB being the person he is. And that will endear SFB to the judge. Now I could be wrong, they could gag him so that he can’t speak. Or the attorney could add on a gag clause that any time SFB say anything out of order, it’s $4,000/word, payable in cash during any recess.
Ruckus
@SFBayAreaGal:
He commented at least once in the last 2 or 3 days.
Tehanu
@japa21:
I really, really hate the whole stadium-naming thing. Cryptocom Arena is the worst, though not by much. At least Dodger Stadium and Yankee Stadium are still in place.
Poor Sue
@WaterGirl: She’s a partner in the property group of Cole, Scott, & Kissane, which I believe is a large South Florida firm. I’m not a member of the bar but am basing this on my living in S. FL. According to their website, she’s donated work for the Miami Innocence Clinic. I had to smile.
danielx
@C Stars:
Or they resigned because they told their idiot client to keep his mouth shut, which he is unable to do. When your client gets indicted because he won’t follow your advice or anyone else’s and there’s some question about getting paid in the bargain*? I’d make tracks too.
*And client is a complete roaring, flaming asshole.
kalakal
@Shana: yep