Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Let’s finish the job.

It’s a doggy dog world.

Pelosi: “He either is stupid, or he thinks the rest of us are.” Why not both?

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

with the Kraken taking a plea, the Cheese stands alone.

Elections aren’t won by handwringing, cowering, and/or bashing your own candidates.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Baby steps, because the Republican Party is full of angry babies.

I did not have this on my fuck 2022 bingo card.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the gop

President Biden is doing good where he can, and getting it done.

The worst democrat is better than the best republican.

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

“Joe Biden deserved better than he got from some folks in his own party.”

The US Supreme Court is on the ballot in november.

“The defense has a certain level of trust in defendant that the government does not.”

I was promised a recession.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

Republicans got rid of McCarthy. Democrats chose not to save him.

Republicans: “Abortion is murder but you can take a bus to get one.” Easy peasy.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

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Why can’t he just go away?

That’s really my big take from all of this Trump shit today. Sure, I think he should go to jail if found guilty of all the things he is alleged to have done. But really, I would be just as happy if he would just fucking go away and I never had to think about him again.

He just brings the worst out in everyone, and you can’t even run a country because half the elected officials are out there trying to out crazy him. Just fucking go away.

I’m just so fucking tired of him.

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  1. 1.

    brantl

    He’s like a human cockroach, if you don’t step on him there will be thousands. Frist? I’ll be damned.

  2. 2.

    Elizabelle

    Amen.

    I want him far away.  In an orange jumpsuit.  Under the care of people who take a profound interest in restricting his freedom.

    So that we can try to enjoy some of our own.

  3. 3.

    bbleh

    OTOH just think of what a motherlode he’s been for all the comedians.

    On the third hand, there were those red Christmas trees …

  4. 4.

    Alison Rose

    Agreed. I’m so fucking sick of having to think about him and read about him constantly. He makes everything horrible and he takes up so much God damn space (literally and figuratively). If I had a time machine, I’d find the moment his parents met and kidnap one of them and drop them off in Nauru or something.

  6. 6.

    Tim C.

    This is no longer the worst timeline.  Trump being defended by a bunch of other lowlifes isn’t as bad as him being president.

     

    But him vanishing off the face of the earth would be better.

  7. 7.

    dmsilev

    There’s a reason why “make politics boring again” was such an asset to Biden’s campaign.

  10. 10.

    eclare

    I know.  I can’t believe (well, I can) what he and his corrupt, ass-kissing Rethuglicans are going to put this country through again.  It enrages me, and it never fucking ends.

    Enough with all the drama.  Enough with how the future of democracy rides on us winning every election.  Can I not pay attention to the news for just one fucking day?

    I really hate them in my core for what they have done to this country.  And I don’t like that.  But there you go.  Because TIFG will not fucking go away.

  11. 11.

    MattF

    I think Trump would go for an extended visit to his pals in Saudi well before any incarceration. There are many golf courses there, one presumes.

  12. 12.

    NutmegAgain

    I totally agree. I was just thinking the same today, while out running errands. Just about the 3:00 PM witching hour, and it was inescapable. I just felt like there was a slime made of sticky caustic orange gunk layered over everything and none of us, it seems, can get away. It’s gross and I just hope they put him in jail, and I don’t really want to hear about it.

  13. 13.

    moonbat

    I’m with you, Cole. I would consider it the greatest luxury never to have to see his ugly mug or hear his stupid voice ever again. That’s why I’m hoping for guilty verdict and one of those “He’ll die in jail” sort of prison sentences.
    But my guess is no matter how long the sentence, he’d die quickly without any attention. He lives to be a topic of conversation and force other people to listen to him yap. Take that away and he’d shrivel like an unwatered house plant.​

  14. 14.

    JaySinWA

    So what’s your traditional arraignment day celebratory repast? I picked up some hard cider and popcorn for popping this afternoon.

  15. 15.

    RaflW

    Even if he renounced his US citizenship and fled to Russia, he wouldn’t “go away” (though if he did something that significant, his influence on the party would drop pretty fast). He’d keep “TS-ing” and grifting his marks and calling in to Fox n Fascists.

    So, alas, we have to hold fast and see this multi-prong legal quest through. And, yeah, it’s freakin’ exhausting. I personally find the Rubios and Cruzs more infuriating and more depleting than TFG at this point. Their cravenness is so incredibly vile.

  16. 16.

    BretH

    I agree that I’m sick and tired of him directly, but I strongly feel he needs to be made a poster child for effing around and finding out. Because we already hear  how the Jan 6 convictions have dampened interest in the yahoos for repeating stupid insurrection-y stuff. I want Trump to be used as an example for decades on how you can get away with behavior and actions like his for only so long.

    He should serve his sentence at a resurrected Joe Arpaio’s Tent City for one, breaking rocks in pink skivvies while the public is invited to watch and jeer.

  17. 17.

    RaflW

    @BretH: A diet of stale bologna sandwiches on the cheapest white bread, no ketchup. And definitely no cellphone whatsoever.

  18. 18.

    Almost Retired

    If forced to say something positive about Trump, I would say that I am now able to make instant character judgments about anyone who supports him.  This saves me time and energy.

  21. 21.

    PJ

    There’s a school of thought that leaders don’t matter (most famously advocated by Tolstoy in War and Peace), and that they are mostly just figureheads who managed to get out in front of a crowd, and that all change really comes from the masses.  There’s a little bit of truth there, in that you can’t have massive social change without a good chunk of the masses behind it.  But humans are tribal animals, and most people want leadership, to one degree or another, because once you get beyond the individual, life gets very complex.

    And, more to the point, the words and deeds of the actual leader make a huge difference in what the people being led strive for and do.  If Steven Douglas had become President instead of Lincoln, we might still have slavery today.  The assholes who support TFG were there before he entered politics and will be there after he’s gone, but TFG sure encouraged and empowered the worst angels of their nature, bringing this country this close to a massive violent crisis and leading to so much more hatred, violence, and attempts to stifle basic human rights.

    So what I’m saying is, yeah, on one level I just wish the fucker would go away so I wouldn’t have to think about him anymore, but on another, more important, level, I want him to be punished to the full extent of the law for all the mostly avoidable abominable shit he’s put this country through.

  22. 22.

    Manyakitty

    @PJ: if you want to see the value of true leadership in real time, look at Zelensky in Ukraine.

  24. 24.

    Elizabelle

    @Mr. Bemused Senior:   Oh yeah.  He can have ketchup.  But not his favorite brand.

    Something the Bureau of Prisons deems acceptable. As a condiment.  Not an art supply or means of expression.

  25. 25.

    MomSense

    Every time we fail to prosecute or pardon presidents and vice presidents we end up with even worse offenders.  I will not be satisfied if he just goes away. Through the entire book, every chapter, page, word and white space of the book at him.

    Same goes for people who break the law in the judicial, legislative, and the rest of the executive  branch of government.

    People considering public service need to know that they will be held to the highest standard and will be accountable for their actions.

  27. 27.

    James E Powell

    He & the myth that binds his followers to him need to be publicly taken apart & destroyed. We don’t want any Trump Lost Cause movement to deal with for the rest of our lives.

  29. 29.

    MomSense

    @geg6:

    We are having a little arraignment party.  Pinot, roast chicken, mashed potatoes, and a truly delicious zucchini side. My youngest’s girlfriend bought some truffle sea salt kettle chips which are a game changer. She made some kind of dip which is delicious.

  32. 32.

    piratedan

    in a way, I’m really glad that 45 is getting his day in court, he’s been shown deference that none of the rest of us would receive and I hope that in the final accounting none of that shit matters if he’s proven guilty of the crimes accused.

    Because… if/when that happens, the remainder of his Klan Korps should be told to stfu when they get paraded thru the same halls of justice for their attempts in helping him pervert Democracy.  Because I suspect that the list is long, an inner circle and an outer circle, filled with Congressmen and Senators and state level legislators and media types and money people.  Once those shoes begin to fall, the GOP may well have a hard time finding enough legislators to staff a football team.

  33. 33.

    Elizabelle

    I think one problem is that major corporate media sees TFIG as trashy and entertaining. I.e. money in the bank.

    this is a problem. They would/will sell us out to Fascism in a heartbeat, if it made them money.

  34. 34.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    The last couple of years have been much more restful with Trump mostly out of my sight and hearing. Now he’s back. For the love of god, Jack Smith, make him shut up.

  40. 40.

    MomSense

    @Leto:

    Not sure why my wicked smaht phone decided throw should be through but at least Apple plans to fix the ducking/fucking autocorrect.

  41. 41.

    Elizabelle

    @MomSense: agreed. And all of these journalists, who want to frame this as a problem for America, a problem for Biden, a tragedy. They have just told you how puerile and unreliable they are.

    when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

  45. 45.

    Jeffro

    I hate still talking about him…but I feel incredibly validated in saying (since 2015!!) that those who couldn’t be bothered to stop this obviously MONUMENTAL crook from taking over their party were going to regret it, and wonder how they arrived at this point.

    Well, we’re here, GOP.  And once again, the blessed liberals were RIGHT.

  46. 46.

    Elizabelle

    @satby: And:  we need to root out his supporters and means of support.

    Trump answered the casting call.  He did not build this, but certainly empowered it.

  48. 48.

    satby

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Word.

    While we’re at it, can we let events just play out instead of endlessly rehashing whatever some talking head on tv or twitter says about all of it? And attempting to read tea leaves about what might, maybe, could happen at every step of the way?? I get that some people manage their anxiety by endless analysis of everything, as if they could control the outcome by sheer force of worry . Still, the professionals have got this; and in the meantime there’s an entire world of other things happening.

  50. 50.

    Burnspbesq

    @satby:

    While we’re at it, can we let events just play out instead of endlessly rehashing whatever some talking head on tv or twitter says about all of it? And attempting to read tea leaves about what might, maybe, could happen at every step of the way?? I get that some people manage their anxiety by endless analysis of everything, as if they could control the outcome by sheer force of worry . Still, the professionals have got this; and in the meantime there’s an entire world of other things happening.

    Agreed. Fuck all the pundits. And double-fuck Ian Millheiser for chicken-little-ing.

  52. 52.

    eclare

    @satby:

    So true.  I can’t worry about Aileen Cannon and all the possbilities.  That is for Jack Smith to worry about, and I trust him.  Nothing I do will affect that.

    Only thing I can do is vote and try to convince others, through donations or postcards, etc.  Much thanks to WaterGirl for our focus on boots on the ground in 2022.

  56. 56.

    PJ

    @Jeffro: Why would Republicans regret Trump, or the 20-odd years since Gingrich, or the 36 years since Reagan, or the 48 years since Nixon, or the 62 years since Brown v. Board of Education led to Trump’s ascendancy?  He is everything they’ve been working for for way longer than my lifetime.  A few of them might wring their hands about this or that that Trump’s done, because he’s so trashy, but he is their Prince Who Was Promised.  Sure, he only gives a shit about himself, and just uses the rubes to advance that cause, but he is also genuinely bigoted and small-minded and hateful.  He is Republicanism in a nutshell.

  58. 58.

    rekoob

    @rekoob: @suzanne: Confirmed with Monk’s Cafe that they don’t have any special events this Thursday, but they don’t take reservations. That’s not a problem for me, at least, since I’m fairly flexible and can get there early. We can ask for another round of consensus, of course, but it might be nice to get the word out.

  59. 59.

    Jackie

    @MattF: I wonder if that’s why his passport wasn’t confiscated. Then while he’s IN Saudi Arabia, revoke it.

  60. 60.

    HeleninEire

    Jesus. This woman on Rachael needs to slow the fuck down.

    Eta: it wasn’t Rachael’s actual show. She’s leading the 8:00 hour.

  61. 61.

    Jackie

    @JaySinWA: Dark chocolate and red wine is my celebratory go to. Popcorn was earlier today 😁 Times like this it’s nice to live in the pacific time zone! More celebration time!

  63. 63.

    brendancalling

    I hope he dies in prison with no access to social media.

    I would be equally OK with him dying via stroke or heart attack. Even suicide to avoid prison.

    I would also accept exiled to a desert island. Or shot out of a cannon.

  65. 65.

    ColoradoGuy

    @PJ: That’s an important. T**** isn’t just a symbol, but the pure distillation of the modern, post-Nixon Republican Party. TV celebrities (or wannabe Fox personalities) who embody all the worst aspects of the USA … racism, homophobia, sexism, arrogant self-righteousness, and the thinnest veneer of fake religiosity.

  66. 66.

    geg6

    @Burnspbesq:

    Thirded.  I’m avoiding almost all punditry.  Except Josh Marshall.  He’s not an idiot like the rest of them, he is sensible and he rarely gets out over his skis.  Some rare qualities in our current media.

  67. 67.

    Jess

    I just keep thinking about all the right-wing donations he and his merry band of grifters are sucking up, and smile like a shark.

  68. 68.

    Jeffro

    Ladies and gentlemen…when you’ve lost Bret Fucking Stephens…I’m just sayin’…

    I’M SAYING “WELCOME TO THE PARTY, PAL!”

    It is stunning to read the grand jury’s 37-count indictment, with its depictions of a former president treating the law with the contemptuous disdain of a mafia don — but with none of a don’s concern for covering his tracks

    what about more mainstream conservatives who know the 2020 election wasn’t stolen, that Jan. 6 was a disgrace for the ages, that Trump is a one-time-lucky serial loser whose bottomless narcissism keeps costing Republicans winnable Senate and gubernatorial races, that his entire presidency was a drunken joyride with a reckless driver careening around hairpin turns at high speed, that his renomination as the G.O.P. candidate would give President Biden his best shot at re-election and that another Trump presidency would be an orgy of petty political retribution and reckless policymaking that would make his first term seem, by comparison, responsible and tame?

    They are, with few exceptions, supine.

    Their excuses for Trump have run the gamut. There were legally inaccurate claims about the Presidential Records Act, which does not give Trump whatever time he wants to return documents to the archivist of the United States. There was the idea that Trump held on to the documents because he was a hoarder or that he had little idea what was in them or that any secrets they contained were not serious. The counts of the indictment powerfully indicate otherwise.

    There’s also the whataboutism regarding Clinton’s emails and the documents found in Biden’s offices and garage. But the people who argue that Comey’s recommendation was a travesty of justice cannot now argue that Trump should be let off on far more serious charges. As for Biden, his case has its own special counsel: Let him come to his conclusions based on the facts.

    Which leaves the argument that our democracy will be gravely damaged if the administration of an incumbent president sets the precedent of criminally prosecuting a political opponent. That’s essentially what Trump threatened to do against Clinton. That’s exactly what he sought to do against Biden by trying to dig up dirt on Hunter Biden’s business dealings in Ukraine — the subject of Trump’s first impeachment. I don’t recall many conservatives taking a bold stand then against that attempt at using the formidable powers of the presidency to criminalize an opponent.

    As for larger considerations of justice, of both a legal and a cosmic kind, the English language is well stocked with phrases for occasions like this.
    Turnabout is fair play.
    Hoist with his own petard.
    What’s sauce for the goose ….
    Lock him up.

  69. 69.

    Jess

    @brendancalling: Either an aneurism while straining on the toilet, or autoerotic asphyxiation would be fine with me. Or, even better, getting brained by one of his tacky chandeliers collapsing onto him.

  71. 71.

    BQuimby

    @brendancalling: I am hoping for a lingering death…not able to speak or freely move, attended by caregivers who are overworked and (surprise!) unpaid/underpaid by his worthless spawn…and he can only dwell on his hell and can do nothing about it except stew in his loaded diaper and be ignored.

  72. 72.

    TS

    It becomes easier to understand how Hitler & the Nazi Party were able to take over Germany – when we see the behavior of this lot. Sometimes it seems easier to “just let it go” or “join the fun” that to look at the lies, the spin, the unbelievable hit they want to take on democracy.

    From the outside looking in, the US is in an eternal circle of politics, the good then the bad & it is getting so much harder to see the end to the rat f…ing that comes with trump & his disciples. Every so-called GOP opponent thinks they can win by moving further & further away from the “of the people, by the people, for the people”.

  73. 73.

    Manyakitty

    @satby: exactly. My favorite thing right now is when someone goes on about how Biden is unelectable and too old and whatever the fuck else, I tell them I think he’s doing great, am excited to vote for him again, and already sent him money. Usually shuts them up.

  76. 76.

    rekoob

    @brendancalling: Changing the subject a bit, both Abbaye and Fergie’s have “Quiz Nights” on Thursdays. I’m thinking we might wish to choose another venue. How about Monk’s Cafe? I called and they have no events this Thursday, but also don’t take reservations. I can get there fairly early, however.

    The Soul of Belgium in the Heart of Philadelphia

    Other suggestions welcome, but we should probably decide soon so that we can get the word out.

  77. 77.

    Ksmiami

    @piratedan: I’m not sure this current crop of GOP legislators could field a pickleball team let alone a skilled team of football players… Seriously

  78. 78.

    MomSense

    @Manyakitty:

    My mom and youngest made fudge brownie sundaes.

    Knowing that Jack Smith, badass triathlete and prosecutor of war criminals, stared him down in court today makes the dessert all the sweeter.
    Trump is incredibly insecure, so it must have been uncomfortable for Trump to sit there knowing that Jack Smith sees him for the piece of shit he is.
    Of course I want the worst possible outcome for Trump but regardless of the eventual outcome, this was a good day.

  79. 79.

    Jess

    @PJ: Those are interesting points that we’re still debating in the wake of Hitler and his ilk. But I think it’s different for the authoritarians; they actually need a dictator to lead them in a particular direction in a way that a more democratic movement does not. Think of all the great people we have on the center-left side; if we lost one, there are many more who could step into the breach, because power is decentralized and we want a community, not a cult. Meanwhile, on the right, there are only a few figures who are able to actually lead and create a cult.

    Don’t know if these random musings make sense; maybe others can explain this more eloquently than I can after a couple of glasses of wine.

  83. 83.

    rekoob

    @Suzanne: Me too! It’s just that I’m not sure it’s conducive to a Juicer meetup where conversation is the name of the game.

    You’re the focal point — you choose. Fine with sticking with Abbaye.

  90. 90.

    Burnspbesq

    @Jackie:

    I’m going for broke

    Think bigger. There could be as many as six indictments before it’s all over. New York, Georgia, and four federal.

    Documents

    J6

    Wire fraud (using The Big Lie to fleece the rubes)

    Securities Fraud (related to the funding of the SPAC that was supposed to acquire Truth Social and take it public)

  91. 91.

    kalakal

    I want Trump’s end to be as squalid and humiliating as possible, so that in the future no matter how hard MAGAs try to rewrite history in his favour even their first thought is “EWW!”

    As for his tawdry public stunts I hope that every time he appears in public he has a Depends malfunction. Hard to be the Maximum Leader when you’re Mr Poopypants

  92. 92.

    Sis

    Amen! I’m so sick of seeing his tiny crocodile eyes and his lumpy face and hearing his repulsive voice.

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