Yeah, when I heard that Tish James had sort of announced that all the other state cases would be put on PAUSE for the federal case, that just didn’t seem right. And I wondered what Fani Willis and Alvin Bragg might have to say about that, and I didn’t have to wonder for long,
It looks like someone got out over their skis, and I am glad to hear that the case in GA will not pause. Hoping the same is true for NY!
Plus Trump has so many different sets of attorneys, it’s not like one set is handling all of the cases.
NBC News: The federal case against Donald Trump will not affect the Fulton County, GA election interference investigation, according to a Fulton County DA spokesperson.
"The federal indictments will not have any impact on the Fulton County election investigation." @MSNBC
— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) June 15, 2023
I am hoping the Mr. Delay, Delay, Delay promptly learns that that won’t fly this time around. Fingers crossed.
I did enjoy reading this. If only they would listen!
Dear MSM,
Stop calling him what he was.
Call him what he is.
Criminal defendant.
— Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) June 15, 2023
Open thread.
And in the spirit of open threads, does everyone have neighbors who almost constantly work on noisy projects? I am beginning to wonder if my neighbor just likes to saw just for the same of sawing!
WaterGirl
It’s going to hit 90 here today. Ugh.
thruppence
@WaterGirl: Here in the Denver area it has been cooler than usual and raining off and on for weeks. The reservoirs are refilled, so yay, but it has also raised up a few billion mosquitos. Ugh.
ArchTeryx
From dead thread below (I always am so so far behind):
@TriassicSands Trans people, IIRC, aren’t numerous enough to make a big difference in voting patterns in red states. It’s that reason why they are ripe targets for genocide – they are effectively disenfranchised as a group in these states.
But even if a large enough number of Ds leave a red state to make it redder, that also includes a brain drain and often, a lot of skilled workers. Immigrant workers as well, because they always go after immigrants. At which point construction, agriculture, and contracting shuts down dead. Ask Florida and Georgia about that one.
Eventually the state collapses under the weight of its own fascism. The total destruction of the education system in Kansas was a type example. Eventually enough people held their noses and started voting for Democrats, and that’s when the damage finally began to be reversed
The hardest core red states – aka some of the Solid South and the empty Great Plains states – are going to stay red for the foreseeable future. But a lot of others may turn on demographics alone given enough time. Georgia is going that way.
BeuceFromOhio
The machines run constantly during the day in my neck of the woods, except when it rains.
Had a neighbor that built his own deck once upon a time. His table saw spinning up, making a cut, spinning down every two or three minutes was all we heard for weeks.
gvg
@WaterGirl: Big deal. 90 is normal weather. It’s actually been rather mild up till now and hardly reached 90 at all. It’s a matter of what you are used to. I find 90 to be relaxing if outside with at least some breeze. Horrible inside of course.
WaterGirl
@thruppence: Ugh on mosquitos. They LOVE me! But I most definitely do not love them.
WaterGirl
@BeuceFromOhio:
That’s exactly what is happening next door today!
Eunicecycle
@BeuceFromOhio: There’s a new housing development going up across the street from me, and the truck backup beeping starts at 7am and goes all day. ARE THEY ONLY BACKING UP? AREN’T THERE ANY TRUCKS DRIVING FORWARD? It drives me insane.
Old School
Does the heat stop the sawing at all?
MattF
A particular benefit of the condo building I’m in is that it is part of a combined commercial/residential project— and the residential piece, which includes my condo unit, was built to commercial acoustic standards. It’s extremely quiet. I had a neighbor with a large barking dog and never heard it.
WaterGirl
@gvg: 75 with a nice breeze is my happy weather.
Right now, the humidity shows as 85%. Ugh. I do not like the heat.
WhatsMyNym
It’s foggy here and we will be lucky to get into 60’s.
I’ve got one neighbor building a new house and another doing remodeling.
Alison Rose
No, because I live in an apartment. Instead of noisy projects, on one side I have assholes who cannot seem to play video games without screaming like someone is stabbing them in the actual face (I used to be a gamer and I get the rowdiness but JFC). And on the other, where the bedrooms adjoin, I have another asshole who seems to think the witching hour is the best time to vacuum or take a bath. The bathrooms also adjoin and are en suite, and their bathtub sounds like Niagara fucking Falls in my own room. I can’t close the bathroom door because the cat needs to get to her litter box, and I can’t wear earplugs for multiple reasons. The front office has reminded residents numerous times that you’re not supposed to make excessive noise after 10pm, but unfortunately, most of the people in this place are thoughtless dickheads who wouldn’t give a shit about other people if you paid them to.
One of you people needs to buy me a house.
Scout211
Since we live on 5 acres, it does happen but the noise is muted. My neighbor to the west has a back hoe, a skid steer and other various noisy pieces of equipment, but a couple of acres of distance helps.
What bothers me is that shooting guns around here seems like a regular activity whenever any of my neighbors entertain guests. And it appears that most of them own semi-automatic weapons. Sigh.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
Nah. Our troublesome neighbor likes to have backyard barbecues with a firepit he built. His music selection is OK, mostly 70s stuff we like at not too awful a volume. But the constant smoke is killing us, often chasing us off our own back porch.
Omnes Omnibus
Temps are decent here. A high of 75 expected. OTOH, the Canadians are invading with smoke. AQI of 148. My bike ride will be replaced by a trip to the gym.
JaneE
I don’t know exactly what my neighbor was doing, but it involved a circular saw and wood and the wood was not quite aligned properly so it was binding a little as the cut was made. It made the most high pitched screech just exactly at the time I tried to pull some toilet paper off the roll. I was still staring at the roll of paper in disbelief when he made a second attempt at cutting and I recognized the sound for what it was.
brendancalling
School is out and I have some important gigs coming up, so I’m about to be “that neighbor.” Except instead of table saws and power tools, it’s going to be electric and upright bass generating the noise.
Xavier
I have an upwind neighbor who (in winter) seems to burn old tennis shoes in his wood stove to keep warm.
FelonyGovt
OMG, the people across the street, who just bought a huge, brand new house, had noisy construction going for over a year, including having a port-a-potty in their front yard! (We once saw a well-dressed man, not someone who lives in that house, pull up in his car, jump out and use the port-a-potty, then drive off. )
Now THEIR next door neighbors have embarked on a noisy project in their front yard. So, yeah.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
We had our hazemageddon last week here in NoVA. AQI almost kissed 300 in my area last Thursday. I’ve been checking since then on AirNow.gov, and it has been pretty good. “Moderate” for a few days, currently 46, top of the “good” zone.
kindness
Wonder why Letitia thought she could be spokeswoman for all the cases? Or maybe she was just talking about the NY cases?
munira
Mostly I never hear my neighbors but they’ve installed a new dishwasher in the apartment above me and it sounds exactly like a garbage disposal – except it goes for an hour and a half. The apartment maintenance guys are dragging their heels in dealing with it so I’m going to do some research on my own to find out why it’s so loud. Apparently, it isn’t loud upstairs – all the noise comes down to me. If anyone knows anything about dishwashers and has any ideas, I’d appreciate hearing about them.
smith
@kindness: I would guess she meant only cases at the state level. Bragg is county level, elected independently of James, and not subject to her supervision, as far as I know. Too bad she’s pausing, though, because (I think) she has some juicy criminal matters to discuss with TFG.
I’m sure if I’m wrong on any of this, our helpful law-talkers will let me know.
Sister Golden Bear
@BeuceFromOhio: My next-door neighbor has taken up chopping wood (as a hobby?). Thankfully it’s only an hour per day or so.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steeplejack: We had it the first couple of days last week too.
Amir Khalid
I look forward to calling TFG what he will soon become: a convicted felon.
smith
The only time my neighbors’ noise has bothered me was once when we had a midsummer power outage, with temps in the 90s, that lasted more than 2 days. My neighbor’s garage is detached, and actually closer to my house than theirs. That, of course, is where they keep a gas-powered emergency generator. That thing went continuously the whole time, right outside my bedroom window, which of course I couldn’t close because of the heat.
Almost Retired
Gas powered leaf blowers. Satan’s own gardening equipment. They’re not illegal in my jurisdiction, and have been embraced with relish by my neighbor. I have lurid revenge fantasies.
Lapassionara
@FelonyGovt: our neighbors seem to be using either a chain saw or a leaf blower every morning, when I am out doing weed patrol. Very annoying.
Ohio Mom
Except for the week one of my neighbors rented a jackhammer to remove his cement patio, it’s usually quiet here in my Red subdivision. This thread reminds me I should take time to appreciate that.
Steeplejack
@Omnes Omnibus:
So I guess I might have more smoke coming.
Redshift
I have that neighbor, but it seems to a business of some kind? At least that’s my guess, since it’s every day and they have business vans parked out front. But I’m not sure.
The nice thing is that our bedroom is part of a remodel (done by the previous owners), and has much better soundproofing than the 60-year-old original construction. Ms. Redshift is a light sleeper, and would have been miserable from the day we moved in if not for that.
Anyway
@Alison Rose:
House in the Bay Area – small ask!
Jeffro
The Post has up a “personal growth” quiz and after taking it THREE TIMES…JUST TO BE SURE…it looks like I need to make some mid-year resolutions to eat better and work out more.
(but…but…I LIKE EATING WHATEVER I WANT!)
lol
Fraud Guy
They’re just trying to adjust the cut of their jib.
AM in NC
Since this is an open thread, just wanted to let everyone (particularly NC peeps) know that Governor Cooper is being featured in a Live Reader Chat on the WAPO site at 1:00 today. You have to register to get a link, and you can submit questions.
I’m really glad to see him get some national attention. He has been holding the line against Republican Christofascism here in NC as best as he can.
ETA: typo fixes
Redshift
@Jeffro: I’d think you’d have a lot more “personal growth” if you eat whatever you want! Must be a faulty quiz.
BC in Illinois
He keeps cutting, and measuring, and cutting, and measuring, and it’s STILL too short !
Josie
My townhouse neighbors are blessedly quiet, but the yard maintenance guys with their mowers, hedge trimmers, and leaf blowers entertain us all day every Friday. I’d like to outlaw all gas powered yard gizmos.
WhatsMyNym
@munira:
Odd, most of the the noise is thru the liner, which you hear in the the kitchen. Maybe it’s rocking and the feet need adjusting?
Steeplejack
@Ohio Mom:
Threadkill Lane is pretty quiet. It’s a cul-de-sac, part of a mid-century condominium that is all variations of “classic six” buildings—two or three stories, two units per floor. After a thread last week I realized that all of the groundskeeping is done by a company that comes once every week or two and runs all of the noisy devices in a limited time span. That is nice. And my building is brick construction, solid and noise-dampening. The neighbors are quiet. Occasionally I will hear my upstairs neighbor’s floor squeak, but it’s not bothersome.
Sean
@WaterGirl:
It’s going to be 104 here today, with several days of 105-107, at least as far out as the local weather can predict. Humidity so high you can barely breathe. I’ve been long adapted, but it’s getting harder to deal.
Karen S.
I live in a condo on a relatively busy street on the Northside of Chicago. The building I live in is small (7 units total), and my neighbors are mostly quiet. The street can get busy because it leads to a partial interchange for DuSable Lake Shore Drive to the east, a police station and CTA bus garage to the west, as well as a couple of nearby hospitals. There’s also the sound of CTA trains in the background. I rather like it.
FastEdD
Letitia James was referring to a civil case which usually waits for a criminal case, especially to one by the feds. Bragg’s case is criminal as is the one in Georgia. so I would expect them not to wait. It is frustrating to imagine a scenario where all the cases wait for Loose Cannon to start and she puts everything off for years.
Delk
Years ago I lived across the street from a Blue Man Group drummer. Stood in front of an open window during nice weather.
Ruckus
@WaterGirl:
We have had clouds for it seems forever, here in the land of constant sun. Temps in the low to mid 70s as the high. It’s supposed to get to the mid 80s on Sat and then go back down the next day. We’ve had rain. In June. I can remember that we once had rain, everyday for 40 days. A lot of rain. That was 50+ yrs ago. The weather patterns are changing. Life goes on, SFB might possibly go to jail for being, well a dumbass. A pompous, arrogant, dumbass. And that was president? Humans can be a lot of things, but that is something to strive for? Pompous, arrogant dumbass?
Randal Sexton
Noises I make: table saw, chop saw, router, riding mower, chain saw : I have been building my retirement place for the last couple years, emergency wood stove heat …
Noises I hear: Jets from NASWI, gun shots from shooting range at nearby quarry, All neighbors have riding mowers, fishing boats trawling for salmon, small planes from S31, BIRDS BIRDS BIRDS (distinctive bald eagle whistle), bleating of lost lambs.
Happily no leaf blowers, which used to be my least favorite when I lived in the Bay Area.
Anybody who listens to birds ? I totally reccomend the free Merlin bird app. very fun.
cope
A neighbor on one side of the FL house we vacated last December was a self-employed finish carpenter so, yes, lots of power tool and banging noises. He’s a great guy, waited until 8 AM or so to work and always asked if he was a problem. He was gone most of the time to various jobs but worked at home from time to time. He is also a BBQ enthusiast and loved firing up one or more of his four grills most weekends. The bigger problem was all the yard service crews coming and going all week long, Sundays included.
Our CO place, even in its tightly packed neighborhood, has no such issues and can be almost eerily quiet at times. I like it.
sab
My newish neighbors have a motorcycle and also a smallish car that has been adjusted to sound like a motorcycle. Both vehicles are louder than our whole house generator.
On the other hand, their perfectly mannered german shepherd never barks, and my pitmix barks continuously, like the chihuahuas she was raised by.
I cannot say enough good things about electric lawnmowers and other electric yard equipment.
frosty
When talking about the weather, WHERE IS HERE, PEOPLE??? Give us a clue, plz.
That’s all, go about your normal daily activities.
Dangerman
You rip what you saw.
/bob vila
Redshift
Since it’s an open thread, here’s an interesting local phenomenon: NoVa seems to have reached the level of Dem dominance where Republicans realize they can’t win as Republicans and are running as stealth candidates in Democratic primaries.
The most egregious is a candidate for talks about stands on the issues that are pretty mainstream Dem (a little more emphasis on business than most, perhaps), but neglects to mention that he was the campaign manager for a past GOP challenger for the seat, and more recently he authored a (rather appalling) letter for a group of people opposing getting rid of Confederate names. We’ll take people who sincerely convert (though we probably wouldn’t elect them), but not mentioning it and hoping people don’t find out isn’t a way to show you’re sincere.
Then there are the challengers to two (maybe three) progressive commonwealth’s attorneys (DA, to you non-Virginia folks.) They may actually have been Democrats in the past, but they’re being backed by Republican PACs.
(And that’s without even getting into the DINO state senator who’s apparently running ads on Fox…)
frosty
@Randal Sexton: I’m in a Maryland State Park now with Merlin open whenever I’m outside. I see maybe 1/4 of what it hears. Still pretty cool and it seems to be accurate.
Roger Moore
@thruppence:
The LA area is also having unusually cool weather. It’s fairly normal for June weather to feature morning clouds, but they usually burn off to give hazy sunshine in the afternoon. This year, the clouds seem to be staying all day, and we’ve even gotten some light sprinkles. I’m not complaining- I prefer the weather not get too hot- but it’s unusual for the overcast to be as stable as it has been.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
I frequently feel bad for my neighbors when Sam the Beagle: (a) makes me go out after midnight, then (b) catches the scent or worse, the sight of the neighborhood fox and (c) starts roo-rooing loudly and continuously.
The fox knows dogs are on leashes, so is not usually in a hurry to leave the vicinity.
I also feel bad for Sammy. I feel like I disappoint him by not putting on a red jacket and hopping on a horse to go chase the fox.
Ohio Mom
@sab: There you are! I’ve been looking for you — Ohio Family will be in Cleveland the Weekend of Friday, August 11 and Saturday, August 12 (arriving late Thursday. leaving for home Sunday morning).
Is that close enough to you (IIRC, you live in Akron?) for a meet-up? What’s halfway? (Goes off to look at Google maps).
cope
@Randal Sexton: Totally agree about Merlin.
On the topic of birds, a large raven dive-bombed me yesterday morning when I was dragging hoses around our front yard. He (an assumption not proven) flew up on our roof and kept squawking at me. He swooped down at me a second time and landed across the street, still squawking. My neighbor came out and the bird turned its attention to him. It would walk toward him, jabbering away and did the same to me when I went over to get a picture.
The bird hung around for over an hour. My neighbor and I both gave it some food thinking it might be a pet bird. Eventually, though, it took off. Who knew birds liked salami and cooked hamburger?
Redshift
@Randal Sexton:
Absolutely, it’s so great knowing what all the birds are who are too shy to sing out in the open! There are songs I hear all the time that I never knew were robins and cardinals.
Roger Moore
Nope. My HOA is pretty strict about limiting noise, and part of that is forbidding people from using their homes as workshops. Once in a while there will be some noise from remodeling, but it’s limited to times of day when I’m mostly at work. It also helps that we have good noise abatement. Our walls are plaster over drywall, which does a lot to minimize noise transmission compared to plain drywall.
WaterGirl
@Old School: No, it does not.
geg6
You people are a bunch of snowflakes. Our house is next door to the main township fire house. A year ago, they decided to move the police department into the attached social hall while the new police/township office building is being built (which hasn’t even begun, so who knows if it ever will). The Humane Society is right across the street, with a giant pen for the big dogs in the back. Barking at all times of day and night. And to top it all off, they are doing a major overhaul to the state road in front of our house and they decided on doing the construction at night so as not to disrupt the traffic (it’s a major artery through the county). Jackhammers and heavy equipment from the time I get home from work until about 3 or 4 am.
Quitcherbitchin. :-(
WaterGirl
@Alison Rose:
Now there’s a rotating tag if I ever saw one!
Redshift
@Karen S.: We have a train line (passenger and freight) just on the other side of the stream valley our neighborhoods is built on, about three blocks away or so. I really like it.
Roger Moore
@Josie:
My city has just done that. It’s probably going to take a while before the gardeners have all switched to electric-powered devices. That said, just the blower part of the leaf blower is pretty noisy, so it’s not a panacea.
WaterGirl
@FelonyGovt: Who puts a port-a-potty in their front yard????
WaterGirl
@kindness: Clueless? Or really not great communication about something important?
Not sure which is worse?
edit: On the other hand, if you wanted to get a feel for whether any of the other case-bringers were planning to press pause or move forward – and you didn’t want to leave yourself open to accusations of collusion (or whatever) – making a statement like that would be the best way of finding out!
StringOnAStick
Not noisy other than yard services; we’ve never lived in a “yard services” neighbourhood before but there’s lots of retirees and older single women. At least it’s quick.
we’re probably a little annoying because we jam with friends and some are allergic to cats so we do it outside. The backyard neighbours include a pretty high level classical musician (many recording projects) and he told me once he “doesn’t believe in jazz”, which I think means improvisation offends his sense of musical traditions. Oh well, jazz is what we focus on so I apologised and try to warn him when a music get together is coming up.
Here is central Oregon, and it got down to 37 last night. I have pole beans over 6′ tall right now!
Shalimar
Trump really doesn’t have many attorneys left. So many have quit without being replaced that Evan Corcoran is still working on the New York cases despite being the primary witness against Trump in Florida.
Not that this should be taken into account when deciding on delays. It’s his own fault no one will work for him. Trump has literally gone through thousands of attorneys over the years. Do any of them remember those cases fondly? Many of them didn’t even get paid.
Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg
One neighbor is good – he chooses reasonable times, even when he’s running his leaf blower. The redneck on the other side (the one who keeps an unsanitary chicken coop, an unregulated junkyard and construction dump whose friend negligently shot him last month) keeps really odd hours, talks loudly on the phone in the driveway, and likes to mow between 7:30 pm and 9:30 pm on Friday, Saturday and/or Sunday. He also likes to bang around on cars at that time.
Neighbor behind me has two Samoyeds, one of whom who enjoys singing the songs of his people between 2:30 am and 4:00 am.
Dangerman
@WaterGirl: Well, you wouldn’t want it in your backyard! That’s for the BBQ.
sab
@Redshift: Robins are really fucking loud and also early risers. I like them chirping now (early afternoon) but at 4:30 am not so much.
Redshift
@cope: Maybe there was a nest nearby?
A couple of years ago, I was out for a walk on a wooded path in our neighborhood, and I felt something hit my head. I turned and there was a mockingbird flying away to squawk at me from a nearby tree branch, and get ready for another run! It had flown past and whacked me with its wing. I’d never had anything like that happen, but I’m guessing there was a nest I didn’t see, and I didn’t stick around to look for it.
raven
Anybody had a DaTscan?
Redshift
@sab: I’m a heavy sleeper and we have all kinds of white noise generators for the Ms., so that’s not an issue for me generally, except for the year we had a mockingbird nesting outside our bedroom window, singing all night long.
Tony Jay
@Amir Khalid:
It’s America, so I think that’s ‘Mister Convicted Felon’.
With all of these criminal and civil cases piling up in Don the Con’s invites, even Cosby must be getting serious indictment-envy.
Yet Another Haldane
I once had a neighbor whose hobby was chainsaw sculpture. He was pretty good at it, and mostly only worked at it on weekday afternoons, but jeez, a chainsaw is REALLY LOUD in a suburban cul-de-sac.
trollhattan
Beginning by wondering how awesome it would be to have Harvard Medical School Morgue Manager imprinted on my bidnez card, what was it that compelled Cedric Lodge to go down this particular path?
And let me not ignore that if I were in the market for corpse pieces, based on the mugshot Jeremy Lee Pauley is precisely the person I’d approach to begin my search.
Am also reminded of what happened to poor old Alistair Cook’s remains.
boatboy_srq
Noisy projects? No. But routinely double-parking – and blocking neighbors’ spaces so we can’t get in/our without either making a scene or digging a fender – is becoming commonplace. Four households – on a block with 12 total – doing this now.
WhatsMyNym
@WaterGirl: It’s very common if you’re having work done. Maybe the water will be turned off, there is no plumbing (like my neighbor’s new house) or you just don’t want dirty boots tramping thru your house.
trollhattan
@sab: Mockingbirds seem to take pleasure in bragging all night that they’re actively nesting. Prefer mourning doves.
boatboy_srq
Good to see that the other wheels of justice do not all automatically stop just because one set picked up speed.
Salty Sam
ummm, I am that neighbor…
lowtechcyclist
@frosty:
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
Speaking of which, I would love to ask Buffett how he got the idea of turning that corny (and now way outdated) joke into a really good song.
trollhattan
@boatboy_srq: Pickups? My neighborhood has gone from just the occasional example to nearly the predominant form of transportation to the dwellers, and nobody owns just one.
Add the California allergy to using the garage as a garage and you have streets and driveways bursting with the things. “Should-a got the Camry” is my standard reaction.
Betty Cracker
@cope: Seconding your Merlin endorsement! The sound ID function is incredible.
I wonder if your raven will return? The corvids around here (American Crows and Fish Crows, mostly) seem to be creatures of habit, and I am trying to befriend them with offerings of peanuts. They seem to like each other’s company more than mine, which is perfectly understandable.
Have you seen any Steller’s Jays in your new habitat? The first time I saw one was in Colorado.
Hungry Joe
May Gray and June Gloom — overcast till early afternoon — are standard for San Diego, but this year the sun has been on near-total hiatus. Just three weeks ago we doubled our number of rooftop solar panels, and I haven’t had the guts to use the app to see how few electrons they’re pumping out. Sunny days ahead, supposedly.
There’d better be: We’re ditching our gorgeous, beloved 1936 Gaffers & Sattler gas range* for a new electric (Induction) range because we want to be gas-free. A salesman, bragging about the high quality of the Induction, said, “This should last 20 years!” The Gaffers & Sattler is 87 and works perfectly. We last had it serviced about 15 years ago. Took about 30 minutes, cost around $100. Progress.
* “Ditching” in the very best sense: The Old Globe Theater is going to pick it up and store it in their Props Department. Will be a serious thrill if we ever see it onstage.
sab
Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Rail train just went by at the foot of my street (1/4 mile) on a weekday. All those bored kids out of school.
ETA Blaring its horn the whole way because traffic crossings. I have ridden on it and it’s fun. See all those backyards abutting the tracks.
Randal Sexton
We should keep a running score for who has the best noises in this thread:
I nominate ‘Next to firehouse, police office, dog pound’, and maybe ‘Samoyeds who sing the songs of his people at 2am’.
Occasionally the wind will knock over a tall deck chair at 2am here, which is when my wife will attempt to make me investigate :)
JeanneT
@WaterGirl: I did! A couple of years back when my only bathroom was being renovated. It was very useful for me and my work crew (and for all the Amazon and Fed Ex drivers who stopped by). I put fake flowers and wind spinners around the facility, just to amuse/horrify the neighbors a little more.
WaterGirl
@Amir Khalid: I like the sound of that!
Did I miss some news? Do you have a new kitty
(If yes, can you send me some photos that I can post?
zhena gogolia
@Alison Rose: Ugh, that is hard. I hate other people’s noise.
We’re in a house, and at the moment all our neighbors are very quiet. It hasn’t always been that way, and I can get very testy.
Baud
@Randal Sexton:
I’m happy y’all can’t hear the noises my body makes.
WaterGirl
@smith: He should have invited you over!
Ruckus
@Steeplejack:
I live in a seniors complex. Have to be over 55 to live here, the oldest I know of is 96. I’d bet the average age is in the mid 70s. Gardners come every Monday for a couple of hours of leaf blowing and mowing and then back to quiet. Except that the buildings are 37 yrs old and while build reasonably, it isn’t the quietest. But old neighbors don’t make too much noise. Not much loud music or even TVs. However one or two of them are cranky assholes. Like one of mine upstairs. Anything that disturbs his majesty is the worst thing in the world. Most of my neighbors are not unreasonable. Most. Oh well, humans are not the most tolerant animals on the planet.
WaterGirl
@AM in NC: Maybe you can report back to us after you watch/listen?
WaterGirl
@Redshift: ha!
Chief Oshkosh
@munira: Hm. If you hear it running at the same loudness during the entire wash, it sounds (pun unintended) like the metal frame of the dishwasher is resting on or pushing against a pipe that or a building structural member that continues into your floor of the apartment building, in your ceiling or wall. Which would be odd, but I’ve seen lots of stupidly installed items over the years, including things I’ve screwed up and had to go back to fix.
cope
@Betty Cracker: I heard some loud bird cawing a little bit ago and it’s around the same time the bird came by yesterday but when I went out front to see, there were no ravens in sight.
I have not yet seen a Steller’s Jay nor detected one with Merlin.
trollhattan
@Ruckus: Our neighbors to the east have gardeners every Monday a.m. who own what surely are the loudest 2-stroke blowers ever manufactured. It matters not whether the lawn is growing, any leaves are present, they appear and hose the joint from stem to stern in an unholy duet–not able to quantify how much ends in my yard.
Racket, stench, allergies are the trifecta, at no extra charge!
CA’s in the process of phasing out gas-powered yard equipment but I’m certain that after the sales end, the gear will endure another decade or two.
WaterGirl
@Sean: WOW. Looks like I will have to take back my UGH – it’s clear that you need it more than I do!
sab
@Betty Cracker: Our grocery has raw peanut bird foods. We have been hoping for a peanut bush in the squirrel infested perennial garden. A new sprout has us hopeful.
Randal Sexton
@Baud: Maybe a good thing this thread cannot perceive your not so silent but deadly baudily crepitations.
Spanish Moss
Not noise so much, but we always know when spring arrives because our next-door neighbor chooses the first beautiful sunny day to burn their brush, an all-day activity that makes us close our windows and stay inside because of the unpleasant smoke blowing our way.
Trivia Man
@Alison Rose: let’s start a commune!
excuse me, an Intentional Community.
im aging so I won’t be able to contribute as I once could – but I’ll be an excellent contributor to the best of my ability!
WaterGirl
@frosty: Steeplejack, is that you? :-)
I believe that is also his pet peeve!
Salty Sam
It’s more than that- usually required by city building codes, based on the number of workers onsite.
WaterGirl
@Redshift: That’s not right!
Trivia Man
@trollhattan: In New Jersey the leaf blowers were a constant. Even in winter, many used them to blow snow. And boy howdy does the sound carry.
I used a broom often, Jersey snow ain’t Utah snow.
Frankensteinbeck
@cope:
That’s a scary thought. Those things are frikkin’ huge. A large raven would be eagle sized, and a Hell of a thing to see coming down out of the sky at you. As they say, “If you’re not sure if it’s a crow or a raven, it’s a crow.”
Citizen Alan
@Jeffro: At the ripe old age of 53, I am finally coming to grips with the fact that my weight issues are primarily if not entirely psychological. I finally realized that I almost never eat because I am hungry. Rather, whenever I eat full meals and especially when I overeat, it’s because of anxiety. Because I want the endorphin rush that I associate with eating KFC or fried catfish or Crab Rangoon or Ethiopian injira bread.
If I could perpetually avoid both politics and family drama, I think I could survive of 3 Atkins bars a day for the rest of my life.
Salty Sam
I live under the final approach path for the Austin airport. Many’s the time on a telephone call that I have to announce “Hold on for 15 seconds- jet going overhead!”
trollhattan
Since Tony Jay’s not present, Boris Johnson:
Those are key points from the investigation report. In true Republican wannabe fashion, Tories are bending themselves into pretzels attacking the report and its authors, not addressing any of the findings. It’s depressingly familiar.
sdhays
Years ago, I was living in an apartment where they were building a new high rise apartment building next door. For about a month, every day, just about all day, they were driving pylons deep into the ground.
BANG…BANG…BANG!
I got to “enjoy” all of it because I worked from home, and it was work that had to be done with the equipment at home – no taking my laptop to a cafe for me. I don’t miss that at all.
Ascap_scab
Growing up, my best friend’s dad was a racer so all summer long you could hear all types of noise coming from his garage late at night.
When new neighbors complained, they quickly learned his property was zoned CR-1 (commercial and residential – 24 hours).
Baud
@trollhattan:
So nothing criminal?
Amateur.
Ruckus
@trollhattan:
There are exactly zero gas powered leaf blowers that make less than at least the maximum legal noise level, which I believe is loud enough to wake the dead. I believe that it is impossible to blow leaves around without that noise level. Why else…….
Delk
This guy put his annoying neighbor to some music!
Omnes Omnibus
@geg6: As far as noise goes, the only thing that really bugs me is when my downstairs neighbor starts blasting gospel music early in the morning. By blasting, I mean it sounds like it is in the next room, and, by early in the morning, I mean 6:00 am. That did result in a polite note asking her not to play loud music that early as it wakes her neighbors. She has been better ever since.
ALurkSupreme
Don’t know if frogs have been mentioned yet, but they love to gather around our pool at night. For such small creatures, they can raise an amazing ruckus.
JaySinWA
@Betty Cracker: Bright blue Steller Jays are common here but we have 4 crows that spend midday in our backyard. They can be loud when we are out.
The woodpeckers banging on roof vents are really loud. Since we replaced the roof using ridge vents they’ve gone to houses farther away.
brantl
@munira: Ask them to topically insulate their floor.
Amir Khalid
@WaterGirl:
I do, since Saturday, and her name is Aoife. She’s a cream/orange tabby with a stubby tail, and I promise that pictures are coming soon.
Miki
@Omnes Omnibus: The Twin Cities had an AQI yesterday of 261. It’s currently 74 – much, much better.
scav
Do rather like the twist of the knife administered by the brief spark of relief the Defendant in Chief probably experienced (if, in fact, he’s clued in yet that the criminal cases march inexorably forward). Sort of a pre-trial Tantalus maneuver in that the hope of delay was withdrawn just as he lowered his lips to drink in his only hope & strategy. Also too the reminder that the feds aren’t the only ones with cases nor are they in charge of all of them.
cope
@Frankensteinbeck: Yes, it was huge. My neighbor and I didn’t know if it was a crow or a raven but a guy driving by stopped to look at it and take pictures. Apparently, his wife is a fan of all things raven. He confidently said it was indeed a raven and also explained how he could see that the bird was quite mature based on its leg and mouth color.
Roger Moore
@cope:
Corvids will eat just about anything edible. I’ve seen a crow opening ketchup packets to eat the contents.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: Damn, my buddies are canoeing in the boundary waters.
dnfree
@WaterGirl: Construction workers do, not the owners of the house being worked on.
tam1MI
Bringing this up from another thread…
I would love to have some sources to “share” with others about Desantis’s dropping numbers in Florida!
Redshift
@WaterGirl: Yeah. The bright side is it’s good to live in a place where Dems dominate (and heck, I helped make it happen!)
Oh, I forgot the other thing — the sole remaining Republican on the county board got an exemption to the GOP bylaws (state-level, I assume) that normally say members can’t vote in Dem primaries and messaged about it, saying that since they don’t have a general election candidate (I haven’t figured out which office/district), it’s their only chance to have a say.
karen marie
@thruppence: Mosquitos are oportunists. They can lay eggs in a puddle that eventually dries up and they hatch when the puddle refills. Charming.
As for Tish, I was a bit shocked that she was there, doubly shocked when she started saying cases would be postponed. Stardom has gone to her head.
Frankensteinbeck
@cope:
That is a Hell of a thing. Wow.
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Roger Moore: I know seagulls are aggressive, but I’ve never seen anything to match the day we watched a Jersey Shore seagull land next to a beach bag, open it up, pull out a foam takeout container, and then extract and eat the sandwich within.
Redshift
@JaySinWA: I have crows hanging out on the roof above my office window some days. They’ll swoop down going after something, and this big shape going across my peripheral vision always catches my attention and distracts me from whatever I’m doing.
karen marie
@Steeplejack: I feel bad for my downstairs neighbor. My now 18-month-old cat likes to sprint around the living room and leap off the back of my comfy chair, causing the front legs to come off the floor then SLAM down when she achieves air.
She mostly likes to do it between 10 pm and midnight.
...now I try to be amused
@Redshift:
Names, please? I live in NoVa and want to know who to avoid. Thanks!
Frankensteinbeck
@Ceci n est pas mon nym:
They pack hunt whales. It is a recent development and both grotesque and horrifying in the details. Seagulls are impressively determined to eat any food they can find, sometimes while a human is still holding it.
Sure Lurkalot
As other Colorado folks have said, it’s been a cool, gray and rainy spring. I was visiting family in St. Louis the 1st week in June and the weather was BETTER THERE. Unpossible!
And yes, the mosquitos are out in force and frankly, I don’t remember a June infestation in Colorado ever in my decades here. I even bought some of the strong stuff because like WaterGirl, those fucking little buggers love me.
We met our inlaws at the Denver Botanic Gardens yesterday and it was glorious–the weather was great (sunny, mid 70s, light breeze) and so many things blooming. Highly recommend!
Cathie from Canada
We are that neighbour !
At least for yesterday and today – we finally had to get a new roof, after years of delaying and hoping there would be a hailstorm bad enough that house insurance would cover the cost, but no such luck.
So the noise starts at 8 am, plus the neighbourhood gets to hear the workers’ portable radio too.
frosty
@geg6: Our house isn’t next door to the Volunteer Fire Department but it’s a half block away from the siren they use to call the firefighters. The night we moved in, it went off twice in the middle of the night. We looked at each other and thought “Uh oh”. Fortunately that’s pretty rare but we usually hear it about once a week. Mostly during the day!
AM in NC
@WaterGirl: So the 1/2 hour “Live” just ended, and I thought Cooper knocked it out of the park.
Jonathan Capehart was the host, and he focused on 3 main things: abortion; education; politics
Cooper made a passionate case for abortion rights, as a moral and rights-based issue, and gave a nifty 30-second history of the Tricia Cotham-switching-parties-and-now-the fascists-have-a-supermajority situation, and he really called out the Republican “moderates” who told constituents they wouldn’t change abortion laws in NC but then ALL did. He tied ALL Republicans to MAGA extremists and didn’t break a sweat.
Then he went to town on public education and how the GOP is destroying public education in order to give public tax dollars to rich people to go to un-accountable “academies”.
During this section, Capehart was having trouble suppressing a grin, because Cooper was making such a compelling case. It doesn’t hurt that he has a serious southern accent while making the progressive case and was also righteously angry.
Lastly, Capehart talked (national) politics and 2024. Cooper reiterated that NC is gettable and made the case for investing resources here. He talked about how Democrats are right on the issues (particularly abortion and Democracy) and voters have rewarded them with victories across the country. He stressed the importance of this election in negative existential terms regarding the GOP, but he also talked about all of the POSITIVE things Democrats have done.
Capehart ended by asking him about his legacy, which Cooper brushed off and said, legacy shmegacy, here’s what we’ve gotten done and here’s what Democrats want to continue to do to improve the actual lives and welfare of our fellow citizens.
Roger Moore
@trollhattan:
The car companies have been pushing trucks for at least 20 years, so it’s unsurprising. There are tax and regulatory reasons why trucks are more profitable for the car companies than cars are, and they’ve been responding to those incentives.
The latest thing is to push everyone to get pickups rather than SUVs, and the pickups are getting ridiculous. Apparently, the most popular models now have a short bed and a “crew cab”, so they’re basically an SUV with the cargo compartment open. Getting one that will actually hold a 4×8′ sheet of plywood is now a special order. Also, they’re getting ever more enormous, to the point they need steps for a lot of people to get into the cab. They’re ridiculous and dangerous to everyone around them.
john b
@AM in NC: Mind if I repost this for the new open thread? As an NC’ian I’m interested in the discussion it might elicit in a fresher thread.
Tony Jay
@trollhattan:
Hi!
It’s a Tory report from Tory authors, which is just delightful. They have a majority on the Committee. Civil-War, bay-bee!
And the bestest bit, the report is just paper until Parliament votes to accept it. So Tory MPs are under the gun that way too. Risk annoying their crazy membership associations back home by voting to punish Flobby, or vote to reject the findings and wrap him around their necks come Election time.
I’m soooooooooo sympathetic.
Roger Moore
@Salty Sam:
That’s unfortunate. My sister lives under the main approach path for SeaTac, but the airport had to retrofit every house in the area with air conditioning, extra insulation, and quadruple-pane windows. It’s very effective at dampening the noise, and it has the added benefit of making the houses there cheaper to heat and cool.
prostratedragon
@trollhattan: Regarding JLP, I.See.What.You.Mean!
Stacib
@StringOnAStick: My ex son-in-law is a jazz drummer who plays with Sun Ra.
Redshift
@…now I try to be amused:
Yeah, I waffled on whether to include those (just to keep it more general interest.)
Reid Voss for Mason District in Fairfax is the Republican campaign manager.
Ed Nutall (opposing Steven Descano in Fairfax) and the challenger to the commonwealth’s attorney in Loudoun are the ones being supported by GOP PACs. (I don’t think the challenger in Arlington is.)
Chap Petersen (DINO state senator) is the one with ads on Fox.
brantl
@Roger Moore: And they suck at being trucks, too.
munira
@Chief Oshkosh: Thanks. It is the same loudness. At first I thought it was a power saw. Weird
snoey
@Roger Moore: Even if you actually need a truck, that’s a 4×8 space where you can’t lock your tools up.
Anyway
@AM in NC:
Thanks for the great summary, AM! Yet another exceptional and passionate Dem governor.
AM in NC
@john b: Sure thing, post away.
...now I try to be amused
@Redshift: Thank you.
geg6
@frosty:
We are lucky that they started using a silent alarm to alert the firefighters of a fire a few years back. The problem is the constant “beep, beep, beep, beep” when they are pulling the trucks in and out and then the sirens on the trucks. And of course, the cops with their sirens, too. It was bearable when it was just the VFD, but the cops are total assholes about it and use their sirens even they don’t need to. I really don’t like them as neighbors. They are very aggressive and must cost a ridiculous amount of $$ for a small suburban force. We have counted 15 police vehicles in their lot plus an armored personnel carrier. Not really needed in a suburb with a population of 11K and an almost non-existent crime rate.
KayInMD (formerly Kay (not the front-pager))
I’m very late to this thread, and I have to run because I have a covid booster scheduled, but I just wanted to say, NO. I don’t have neighbors who constantly have noisy projects, because my husband is the neighbor who constantly has noisy projects. Early in the morning. When I, to, am sleeping. Sorry everyone, I try. At least one of the neighbors sometimes benefits, because one of his projects is cutting the firewood with which she heats her home.
Kayla Rudbek
@munira: did they not put the felt around the dishwasher when they installed it? That would be my first thought.
Rebel’s Dad
@WaterGirl: we have a heatwave coming to the Northeast next week. It’s supposed to be 81° here in Newark on Monday.
:)
frosty
@geg6: Us too. The regional Police Dept is on the same lot as the siren. They go wailing down our residential street (25 mph speed limit). Lights on but not always the siren. I’m sure they save 30 seconds or so getting to the corner with cross traffic.
Kayla Rudbek
I swear that my HOA has the landscaping company out at least twice a week, and the noise is annoying when I have my windows open and I’m working. It’s almost enough to get me back to the office again.
Shana
@Josie: Hubby upgraded to all electric rechargable lawn tools a year ago and it’s SO MUCH quieter. They’re all the same manufacturer so the batteries are interchangeable.
Mom Says I*m Handsome
I have a retired neighbor across the street who is constantly making noise of some kind or another out of his garage. Our joke is that he chooses the loudest possible way to do whatever he’s doing. Mostly it’s harmless (and I have to give him some leeway, in a past life I made furniture in the garage of my very tightly packed Silicon Valley neighborhood so I’ve been That Guy), but when he got out his gas-powered leaf blower last Saturday at 7:45am just to push around leaf debris from an overnight hail storm, my latitude for his noisiness narrowed.
Miss Bianca
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: Ahem…to go a-beagling, you would be on foot and chasing rabbits, more like, than foxes. Sorry, Sam! :)
Miss Bianca
@StringOnAStick: Improvisation was certainly a part of “classical music” tradition back in the day, at least during the Baroque period, and certainly in Bach’s day, as well, from what I’ve been given to understand – indeed, a lot of what got written down was originally an improvisation on a theme, so your neighbor’s snobbishness about it might well have been incomprehensible to certain composers they may fancy.
RevRick
@Steeplejack: Here in Allentown PA we topped out at 431 on the AQI. The smoke was so thick, we couldn’t see South Mountain from our house, which is only a mile away. The temps have been mild, but we endured the second driest May on record.
RevRick
@WaterGirl: My wife and I live in the city of Allentown on the street that provides the main access to the west side from the south, so there’s a constant stream of traffic, including trucks, which starts every morning at 5:30. On top of that the city fire/ambulance station is a mile down the road… as is the local municipal airport… as is the city police academy/firing range. Noise is an ever-present reality. Of course, since I have tinnitus, nothing compares to the constant high-pitched eeeeeeeee in my head.
And yet, a block away is our magnificent local park system that’s home to blue herons and eagles and foxes and deer (one summer dusk we counted 27, including two nursing fawns) and is a favored place for trout fishing.
NotMax
@RevRick
Haven’t been back in that neck of the woods in many a moon but A-B-E always struck me as an airport that never quite achieved maturity.
Time was if circumstance permitted would detour out of my way to stop for dinner at the Macungie Inn. Otherwise a quick bite from the Charcoal Drive-in in Wescosville.
Roger Moore
@Miss Bianca:
Longer than that. I remember seeing a program from a concert Beethoven was performing early in his career, and one item was him improvising. That would push public improvisation at least into the late Classical period. I bet some of the other performers or the time, like Paganini, would do something similar.
Shana
@karen marie: Who was the writer who said “whoever said the fog comes in on little cat feet never lived downstairs from one”?
Shana
@…now I try to be amused: Check the Fairfax County Democratic Committee web site for endorsements. Several races (School Board primarily) are non-partisan but candidates usually ask for, and get, party endorsements.
Shana
@Redshift: I do hope Saddam Salim beats him. There has been talk for years about primarying Chap. I like him personally but he is too conservative for the district.
UncleEbeneezer
@StringOnAStick: How does one “not believe in” a style of music? That’s the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
RevRick
@NotMax: ABE is now becoming a major cargo airport since the Lehigh Valley is one of the top warehouse locations. I live near Queen City off Lehigh Street.
Redshift
@Shana:
This seems to be the best opportunity, with all the redistricting changes.
I’ve never liked Chap, in particular because probably the first time I interacted with him one-on-one was at a Dem event I was helping to organize, and I asked him about his opposition to same-sex marriage, and in his answer he blathered and tried to connect it somehow to 9/11. I don’t get angry easily, but since a friend of mine was one of the pilots on the plane that hit the Pentagon and was also active in the Gay Pilots Association, that… did not go over well.
Redshift
@Shana:
Good advice for the non-partisan races; the ones I’m talking about are the primaries where you can get on the ballot if you get enough signatures and do all the paperwork.
StringOnAStick
@UncleEbeneezer: That was what he actually said; totally threw off my mental state and I had no idea how to respond, so I didn’t.
Manyakitty
@Ohio Mom: yes that’s great!!!!!!