Rebecca Traister did a NY Mag feature piece on Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s doomed campaign for the Democratic Party’s 2024 presidential nomination. Topline takeaway? Jesus — that guy is crazier than a sack of cats and has been for many years. Someone who knows Kennedy well described him thusly to Traister:
“He can look and sound so thoughtful and contemplative,” said one person who has known him a very long time. “And he’s just bursting with madness.”
In a thread yesterday, we talked about the chaos agents among us. Kennedy is one, and now he believes his time has come. He’s weaving a multigenerational, bipartisan coalition of kooks, conspiracy nutters, anti-government cranks and Camelot nostalgiacs.
He is both an addled conspiracy theorist and an undeniable manifestation of our post-pandemic politics. He is an aging but handsome scion of America’s most storied political family, facing off against an incumbent who many in his own party worry is too old and too unpopular to win a second term. Far from an exile, he is an extremely well-connected person with unparalleled access to the centers of influence in New York, Hollywood, and Washington, D.C., who either has no idea what kind of fire he’s playing with, or does and is therefore an arsonist.
He is running a surprisingly potent campaign that, thanks to the lurid dynamics of social media and the boosts he is receiving from some of the wealthiest, most listened-to people in America, stands to grow even more disruptive, his deep thoughts on Rogan’s podcast translating into overflow crowds at his rallies. Lesser threats than Kennedy have played spoilers in elections before, and if he succeeds in helping burn us all to the ground, it will not be because he is an outsider, as he claims, but because of a political and media culture that has protected and encouraged and fawned over him his whole life — handing a perpetual problem child, now 69 and desperate for attention, accelerant and matches…
Kennedy is boosted by MAGA chuds like Steve Bannon. He’s also amplified by edgelords like Musk and Rogan, who are basically MAGA chuds themselves, though they mistakenly believe a layer of ironic detachment separates them from embarrassing, double-decker-shirted, Febreezable toads like Bannon. (It doesn’t, or at least, it shouldn’t.) This influence shows in Kennedy’s rhetoric.
Anyhoo, I found Hillary Clinton’s responses to Kennedy, as described by Kennedy himself and then Traister when she asked Clinton to comment, the most relatable in the piece. Kennedy has denounced Clinton, Biden and lefty lawmakers like AOC as “warmongers,” so it was uncomfortable when Kennedy ran into Clinton at an unidentified soiree:
Kennedy recently bumped into Clinton at a Las Vegas event. “I knew it was going to be awkward,” he said, “because her Zeitgeist is pro-war and pro-vaccine … But I went up and said hello.” Clinton just looked at him, he told me, “and said, ‘I don’t know what to say.’” Reached for comment, Clinton said, “I still don’t.”
I mean, what do you say to a fool like that, besides please shut the fuck up and go away? He won’t, of course. He’ll keep right on accessing high-profile media platforms to complain about being silenced. His name will open doors that would otherwise be shut to people peddling that brand of crackpottery. And in a country that is arguably “bursting with madness” too, that’s a dangerous thing.
Open thread.
Baud
Sounds like a uniter.
Doug R
Rather then give him the slightest form of legitimacy from his family name, which his great-grandfather worked hard to bring up from rum and whiskey-running-I’ve decided to refer to him as “Junior”.
Another Scott
It’s early and it’s all name recognition.
Late June 2015 CNN Poll (75 page .pdf)
Total of 368 GQPers + GQP-leaning Independents
Cheers,
Scott.
Baud
There are always some Dems who think Republicans are strong and want to emulate them, even in craziness.
I am quite sad that the venerable label of being anti-war has been corrupted by people opposed to helping Ukraine.
Fraud Guy
I read this line:
And thought of Trump, Musk, and so many other of our edgelords…
Trivia Man
I’m a little surprised that the Kennedy name still has hypnotic power. I could understand teddy, the MAGIC was a recent memory for most of voting age.
I’m one of the Olds, just a couple years younger than junior, and Camelot is just something I read in a book. Are there enough people that still remember those days?
Baud
@Another Scott:
Maybe I’m out of the loop, but that seems like the author was trying to make RFK a thing so they could continue to write about it
Carlo Graziani
…in the “social media is the real world” niche of political analysis.
Other than that, he has nothing on Tulsi Gabbard, or on Jill Stein. The Biden-Harris team are going to spit him and roast him over a cheery, crackling fire, while pretending to totally ignore him.
Betsy
Someone around here commented a day or two ago that they don’t care about age; they would vote for Joe Biden if he were 250 years old at the time of the upcoming Presidential election. I concur.
Trivia Man
I assume that is Scott Walker and not an actual skin walker at 6%. im in Wisconsin and I’ll never understand how people give him any credibility at all. Goggle eyed homonculus indeed.
I keep waiting for Paul Ryan to burst out again. Zombie eyed Granny Starver that he is.
Josie
“He’s weaving a multigenerational, bipartisan coalition of kooks, conspiracy nutters, anti-government cranks and Camelot nostalgiacs.”
This doesn’t sound to me like a group who was going to help us anyway.
Carlo Graziani
@Baud: Pacifism is only a moral choice in one’s own wars. Pacifism in other people’s wars is the most despicable form of hypocrisy.
Will
Media and author of the article want Kennedy to happen so they can have a horse race. They know Biden is going to trip on his words so the more he is pressed by Kennedy the more gaffes they can talk about! They know Dems don’t want it to happen. They thought Dems might at first, but then realized how wrong they were, which is why we get all these stories about ignoring him and the danger. They are demanding we pay attention, or else…. like they have any control over the or else.
patrick II
Among the many destructive things you can blame Sirhan Sirhan for is taking a father away from someone who obviously needed one.
dmsilev
Yes, god forbid that someone’s Zeitgeist be pro-vaccine. Like, you know, any normal sane person.
(and I’d certainly dispute ‘pro-war’)
trollhattan
Enemies of American democracy will continue shoveling cash into his vile maw so long as he’s grabbing camera time. Not a useful idiot so much as a runaway freight carrying a load of anthrax.
bbleh
@Baud: “Finally,” said the Chair of the Broder Institute, “someone who is willing to reach across the aisle and forge bipartisan alliances!”
Alison Rose
@Trivia Man: I mean, my mom thought JFK and Bobby were gods among men, but she told me she thinks RFKJr is a fucking lunatic. I doubt there are people so sentimental over Kennedy nostalgia that they would vote for someone who feels like the early form of the eventual whodunnit in a slasher movie.
MattF
I suppose I could be wrong, but he doesn’t seem so politically potent to me— just very very nuts. There’s a need for responsible people to get his actual beliefs out there and publicized, those beliefs are completely paranoid and bananas. I recognize that spending time and energy making certain that everyone knows Junior is nuts won’t feel good, but it has to be done.
Also, crazy often doesn’t do well under pressure. Another dirty job, but it needs to be done.
Alison Rose
@dmsilev: I love how certain shitheads translate “sometimes war is necessary in certain situations” to “KILL ‘EM ALL MWAHAHAHAHA”
mrmoshpotato
As do all of these assholes who bellow about “cancel culture! wah wah wah! I’m being cancelled!” at every opportunity they get.
mrmoshpotato
@Trivia Man:
You’re using coconuts!
bbleh
@Another Scott: @Carlo Graziani: concur. “Potent” like DeSantis, in that he’s the only hook for writers desperate for a horse-race.
And maybe I’m whistling past the graveyard, but seems to me that an anti-vax nutcase who’s big into steroids and testicle-tanning or whatever else might hold as much or more appeal for outer-belt Republicans who are having more and more trouble closing their eyes to TFG’s galaxy-scale malfeasance but would never pull the lever for a Democrat as he would for Democrats who are thinking of casting a protest vote because, uh, Biden is old or something.
mrmoshpotato
@Betsy:
Hear! Hear! Bravo to whomever said that!
stinger
@Josie: Which makes me wonder, are we Dems obligated to give a bullhorn, campaign funds, invitation to debates, a speaking slot at the convention, or any other imprimatur, to just anyone? Anyone who claims (looking at you, Bernie) to be a Democrat but isn’t? If, say, Romney decided to “run as a Democrat”, could he? With automatic Party support?
RandomMonster
I maintain he’s a paid Russian agent.
Suzanne
So basically the Boomers who sit on Facebook all day and take those quizzes.
Baud
@stinger:
We have no such obligation.
Anyway
There have been many polls suggesting that the yoots are totally turned off from the Rethugs. Great news. The anxiety-inducing aspect for me is that that doesn’t mean they will turn out for Dems. I’m afraid of the “hairdresser” network and their attraction to chaos agents, conspiracy theorists and peddlers of woo. Getting them to vote D is going to be a tough lift. Not trying to be a doomer but I know many people who quote or pass tidbits from their hairdressers and a lot of their ideas are pretty sketchy.
Nukular Biskits
Too hot outside … weather.com says it’s 93 with a heat index making it feel like 104. And it’s just barely noon.
Spent most of the last three days outside doing “stuff” and now I just can’t summon the energy to hurl myself into the fusion-powered oven today.
And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is a jackass.
Alison Rose
@mrmoshpotato: Giving a certain vibe…
bbleh
@Anyway: Always a problem, but Dobbs looms pretty large, and the Dems seem to be taking proper advantage of that.
Josie
@stinger:
I agree. It is my fervent hope that President Biden refuses to debate any of these nuts no matter what anyone says.
stinger
@Baud: Good. I’m obliged to you for the information!
oldster
My parents had a *huge*, like 3’x4′, poster of JFK on their walls. They thought he was, as Alison Rose said above, a god among men.
For myself, I’m glad that my current association with “Camelot” is the brilliant British comedian Diane Morgan playing the impossibly stupid Philomena Cunk and ambushing the UK’s foremost academics with invincible ignorance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs_W2I45X8U
trollhattan
@RandomMonster:
HardImpossible to argue he’s not.Baud
@Anyway:
Biden should take a page from Nancy Reagan and hire an astrologer.
hueyplong
@Trivia Man: You can tell it’s a typo because an actual “skin walker” would get a hell of a lot more support in a GOP primary than 6%.
There is a pleasing symmetry in Scott Walker sitting at the same percentage as “No One” in that poll.
If only DeSantis were doing likewise.
mrmoshpotato
@Alison Rose: LOL!
Anyway
@Josie:
Yes, this.
StringOnAStick
@Anyway: Well, the young people I know are all college educated and they are incandescent over Dobbs. Since young people will be the ones forced to continue unwanted or wanted pregnancies with potentially fatal complications, I think there’s a lot of motivation among the youth vote that does pay attention. I think the “paying attention” cohort has increased in number and that is directly connected to Dobbs; killing the student loan relief is no doubt highly unpopular with them as well.
Doug R
@RandomMonster: It certainly fits with the anti-vax BS.
Anyway
@Baud:
Ha ha, that’s a not-terrible way of throwing a bone to the friends-of-woo…
Mr. Bemused Senior
Hillary is a smart lady.
What are these cats doing in a sack? Let the cats out of the bag. Animal Cruelty!
Cameron
Junior ain’t gonna make it – not against somebody upon whom God smiles:
https://www.newsfromthestates.com/article/re-desantis-who-needs-friends-when-youre-instrument-divine
Spanky
@RandomMonster:
Why pay for something you’re getting for free?
Baud
@Anyway:
Pisces, Virgo rising is a very good sign
Strong and kind
And the United States is fine
Now I see an economy where once was none
Now we’ve just begun
Yeah, we’re gonna fly to the sun
japa21
@Spanky: My thinking exactly. He’s just following his heart’s desire and it just happens to coincide with what Russia wants. No money need change hands.
Carlo Graziani
@Mr. Bemused Senior: The cat got into the bag to impersonate “a pig in a poke.” Once the poke is opened, and the buyer realizes the nature of the purchase, “the cat is out of the bag.”
Mr. Bemused Senior
@Carlo Graziani: “Once the poke is opened …”
and the pig begins to sing?
Trivia Man
@hueyplong: too late did I notice that was a 2015 poll. Jeb! Should have been a clue. My bad. I agree that an unapologetic skin walker would likely poll higher cause he TELLS IT LIKE IT IS!!
my point about zombie eyed granny starver still stands.
OlFroth
While he can’t control the timbre of his voice, and it really shouldn’t matter anyway, his whiney, shrill and cartoonish manner of speaking should disqualify him.
patrick II
Robert Kennedy was my political hero back in the day. The eulogy he gave for Martin Luther King on the night of his death was the greatest extemporaneous speech I have heard. His untimely death changed America for the worse in ways that even his brother’s did not. Bobby became known for being a fighter for the underdog, in the day that was fighting for minorities and the poor.
We had a post the other night on “You are what you pretend to be”, (so you must be careful what you pretend to be), which I know from Vonnegut and Mother Night. My own take on RFK Jr is that he is emulating or pretending to be his father, but he doesn’t know how. He fights for those he thinks are the downtrodden — people who are forced to take vaccines or those that are victims of military overreach. It makes him feel good in ways we can’t know to feel he is retracing his father’s unfinished footsteps.
Except that he is not his father. He is not as smart and his motivation is his own sense of fulfillment rather than the enrichment of others. He doesn’t understand fighting for a cause is not the same as fighting for the right cause — be careful for what you pretend to be. It is not as simple as it appears. RFK Jr is a tragic shadow of his father, caused in part by the early loss of the one he emulates but does not understand.
Citizen_X
Bish your sainted uncle got us into the fucking Vietnam war!
NorthLeft
Every time I hear about Hilary, she impresses me even more with her kindness, decency, and intelligence. A terribly missed opportunity America.
Tony G
@Trivia Man: That’s right. I’m a 67-year-old Boomer, and my primary memories of “The Kennedy’s” are JFK and and RFK getting killed when I was a kid. I was old enough at the time to know that a famous person getting killed was a Bad Thing, but that’s the extent of my emotional connection. For anyone a decade or more younger than me, “The Kennedy’s” — with the exception of Ted, who was effectively slimed by the right during his lifetime — are figures from a the distant past.
Baud
@NorthLeft:
👍
Hillary was a young woman when RFK was assassinated. She probably can’t believe what his son has become.
Chris Johnson
Literal Trump 2.0, then.
Will he be able to work that trick twice, after the Russian helpers have been publically outed AND stuck in a quagmire in Ukraine and their master, Putin, is clinging to power by his fingernails, and all the truth is coming out and the pandemic survival measures are not immediate and on the boil in everyone’s faces?
…no, no he’s not going to be able to work that trick twice.
Fuck that guy. He’s a luckier find than Trump was, but it will not help. If nothing else, a jealous Tucker Carlson will garrote him with an extra long bright red tie. Screaming, “WHY, master Vladimirovich?! Why must you always pass me over, and go with complete and total assholes?”
mrmoshpotato
@Mr. Bemused Senior:
You don’t want to hear about my trip to St. Ives.
Cameron
I have wound up on Marianne Williamson’s mailing list, and I must say that I see something seriously askew in our politics when she comes off as far more sane than RFK Jr.
Geminid
@Baud: The war in Ukraine is like a chemical agent that has precipitated lefties into a pro-Ukraine camp and a (hopefully) smaller anti-Ukraine camp.
The latter group is characteristically virulent. When environmental activist Greta Thunberg visited Ukraine last week and called out Russia for its destruction of the Khavkhova Dam, she was denounced as a “War Pig” by people in the dirtbag left. Not surprisingly, it’s guys- I won’t call them men- who are taking the lead in smearing Ms. Thunberg.
This anti-NATO sentiment correlates with anti-vaccine beliefs. It’s like the nuts are coming out of the shadows to create a United Front for cranks. This may be a good thing. It shines a harsh back light on their past politics, and will mark them going forward.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@patrick II: RFK’s speech in Indianapolis the night MLK was killed was astonishing. The crowd hadn’t heard the news, and he had to tell them. Then the man said he understood how it felt to have someone you loved be killed. And he quoted Aeschylus. Which, I can’t even.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@mrmoshpotato:
I ♥ BJ
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Maybe we misidentified which uncle he admires? Clearly he’s trying to pull off what Uncle Teddy accomplished in his 1980 run. RFK Jr. is no Ted Kennedy.
Chris Johnson
@Geminid: The latter group are fucking imperialist tankies. They are authoritarian to the core and believe anything Putin tells them, no matter how twisted. Ukraine is a very good litmus test now.
Fuck tankie leftists. We don’t need ‘left wing’ brownshirts. Horseshoe theory is real.
Denali5
There is a piece in the Opinion section of today’s New York Times that attempts to explain the appeal of RFK. It makes no sense to me, but I am old.
Baud
@Mr. Bemused Senior:
A little early for Balloon Juice After Dark.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
If this were any other issue, it seems like the left would be united around the idea of providing resources to a population under threat from a much more powerful entity.
Amir Khalid
@Carlo Graziani:
Ahem. The cat is typically not in on the scam, so I think you meant to say, “The cat was put in the bag …”
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Must be a short piece…
CaseyL
This is like Trump all over again: all the enraged RW assholes of the country who could never be bothered to vote before turned out for The Mango Mussolini.
This time, it’s the woo assholes. i don’t know how many of them there are, or whether the Disaffected Superiority Complex nitwits who went for Jill Stein will also go for this clown.
(As someone who also revered RFK, seeing his kid turn out to be such a lousy human being hurts. All of Bobby’s sons turned out badly – one of them actually died from a drug OD – though not, so far as I know, his daughters.)
Baud
@Denali5:
Sounds like there’s an RFK Jr. boomlet in the media right now.
mrmoshpotato
@Cameron:
Who’d you piss off? :)
Geminid
If RFK Jr. was a serious candidate the story of his second divorce would sink him.
boatboy_srq
RE: the RFK2/HRC moment:
Being opposed to “peace-at-any-price” is not “pro-war”. It’s just saying that one Neville Chamberlain per millenium is enough.
And don’t get me started on the “pro-vaccine” BS. RFK2 may be too young to have met FDR but that doesn’t mean he’s too young to know any polio survivors.
boatboy_srq
@Geminid: Didn’t do a thing to stop Lord Dampnut.
Then again neither did all the unexpected publicity about his affairs with pr0n stars, either.
Feathers
@Chris Johnson: living in a university town, my take on the tankies is that their political beliefs come down to my parents were wrong about Everything. Therefore, if a Democrat has supported it, it must not only be wrong, but impossibly wrong.
As to the anti-vaxxers, we are going to realize that “question everything, think for yourself” may not have been the wisest thing to teach a generation. Americans have a way of taking guidelines and turning them into hard and fast rules, that must not only be personally adhered to, but all who do not follow them need to be publicly admonished.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Media, stop trying to make
fetchRFK Jr. happen. It’s not going to happen.Geminid
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation: I think the responsible members of the “Left” have taken the right position on this war.
The position of the DSA’s International Commitee has cost that organization members. The war could be a contentious issue at the bienniel Democratic Socialists of America convention in August, in Chicago.
boatboy_srq
@Cameron: I am on DeathSantis’ list, and Winsome Sears’, and Ronna McDaniel’s and a whole bunch of others. I’m about to send a Cease and Desist to the cray wingnut that thinks my email is hers.
Cameron
@mrmoshpotato: I’m a penniless Old Fart. I have to take my amusement where I can find it.
MomSense
@Cameron:
So many millennials in my social media feeds are posting her shit. And Jamie Lee Curtis endorsed her. It makes me livid after what she did during the AIDS crisis.
And since the student loan decision my social media has been hot garbage. I voted for Democrats and this is the result. I’m not voting again.
I don’t even know how to unpack how fucking stupid that is.
eclare
I used to like Cheryl Hines. No longer.
catclub
@Trivia Man:
I would say that the pre-eminent family political name in the US is Roosevelt… or Adams. Then followed by Kennedy.
Geminid
@boatboy_srq: I’m not sure you are aware of the circumstances of that divorce. Most media sites did not touch the story because it was so tragic. The New York Post was not so inhibited, and you can find the story there.
catclub
@MomSense: i hope you meant:
Dorothy A. Winsor
@catclub: I’d be interested in knowing if people under, say, 45 feel the same way about the Kennedy name.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Problem is that isn’t what the anti-vaxxers are doing. They’re attaching themselves to a specific set of contrarians and failing to question them.
Gretchen
I realized that Kennedy is my age, and was in college at the same time I was, 50 years ago. At that time, Immunology was a black hole – they knew the structure of antibodies and the existence of T and B cells, but very little about how or why it all worked. A professor said that anyone who tells you they know all about immunology is telling you they know nothing about immunology. Yet Kennedy, with that Stone-Age, half-century-old understanding of the subject has the hubris to say that experts in the field know nothing compared to him.
Kelly
@Alison Rose: Also certain other shitheads think being against an idiotic war means I’m against any fighting back against evil
Gretchen
« Febreezable toad like Bannon »! Lololol! Wordsmith Betty strikes again.
mrmoshpotato
@Amir Khalid:
Typically…
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
I turn 40 next month. I could give a rat’s ass about the Kennedy name.
I was old enough to vote in Ted’s last Senate run, I declined to vote for Ted.
I was persuaded to vote for Ed Markey over Joe Kennedy for Senate, though I wish we still had him in the house.
Ruckus
@patrick II:
This.
I agree with your take. The senior Kennedy clan was different than RFKjr. He is not his father or his uncle. He doesn’t get what they were doing from their privileged positions. I doubt he thinks of himself as privileged but what does he do to have an income of millions? Be a Kennedy?
But he sure seems to be on the side of the scale called insane.
mrmoshpotato
@Cameron: Fair enough.
NotMax
@catclub
Political family of broad electoral membership? Taft.
Ryan
How about reminding the guy that for once, the US didn’t launch the war?
Martin
I’m half a generation older than the median general election voter and a solid generation older than the median Democratic primary voter and JFK was killed 5 years before I was born. And say what you will about JFK and Teddy, I get the sense that the core of the Democratic Party has a visceral hatred of dynasty.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@mrmoshpotato: advice on cats in bags
trollhattan
@Spanky: Heroin doesn’t pay for itself.
mrmoshpotato
@MomSense:
Ah yes. So stupid it burns. The dumb, dumb, selfish asshole children…
trollhattan
@Denali5: Technically, he’s old too.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
I find myself wondering how to participate. Also I’ve never seen Chicago, would love to visit.
Gretchen
@Baud: I agree with you about the anti-war label. Since it’s always been a good thing to be anti war in the past, these people are excusing the invasion of a peaceful independent nation by a hostile foreign power.
snoey
@trollhattan: Bodybuilders take one look at the shirtless pics and say that he’s moved on to HGH and probably something else.
Mai Naem mobileI
There’s an article at the WSJ(behind paywall) I heard mentioned but have not read about the use of ketamine and psychedelics in Silicon Valley and RFK Jr either advocating for use or investigating the use of psychedelics for treatment of various ailments. Is this why RFK Jr is getting all this exposure and support from these techbros? Honestly I don’t think I could handle listening to RFK Jr’s voice just for a primary season forget four years of a presidency. I know it’s spasmodic dysphonia. It doesn’t stop his voice sounding like chalk squealing on a chalkboard to me.
Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg
@Alison Rose:
Let me introduce you to the oeuvre of one Glenn Greenwald….
Geminid
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation: You would have to be a DSA member and be selected as delegate by your local chapter.
You can still go to Chicago though. They might think you were one of them if you barge in and say, “Whassup, Comrades?”
Those folks have a lot to fight over. My joke is that the convention could be like the Shootout at the OK Corral, but with man buns instead of cowboy hats.
Mai Naem mobileI
@RandomMonster: he’s a useful idiot. don’t think he needs the $$$ and I am not even talking Kennedy $$$. His wife’s a very successful actress.
Sister Golden Bear
Well the heatwave is wreaking havoc on my weekend getaway to the Sierras. Already 93 in Twain Harte at 4,000 feet. When I went down to Copperopolis yesterday to charge the car it was 108 in the shade.
At least the true high country around 8,000 feet was comfy. Still lots of snow, and two lakes near Ebbetts Pass were still almost completely frozen over, with what looked like an inch or two of ice. All due to the record-setting snowfall this winter.
Yes there are pictures. Will have to share.
japa21
I’m 76 which means the Kennedys played a major role in my adolescence and early adulthood. The name definitely had some cachet to it. However, a name does not guarantee quality and RFKJr definitely is what Kay would call “a low-quality hire” type of individual.
The only people who will react favorably to his anti-vax message are those that wouldn’t vote for Biden anyway.
zhena gogolia
@Betsy: ME TOO!!!
mrmoshpotato
@Mr. Bemused Senior: Haha!
StringOnAStick
Funny how, even though he’s running for the D ticket, RFK jr’s previous bust for heroin and stint in rehab for addiction (during marriage #1) isn’t something the press is interested in. Or that he proposed to his second wife before he was divorced from the first, only being able to marry her (Mary) much later and when she was already 6 months pregnant. Or that second wife Mary obviously suffered from serious mental illness, and according to one of her friends, RFK jr had an “astronomical number of affairs” during their marriage (a prior pattern for him). She committed suicide during the time of their divorce; there’s evidence he encouraged her to do so.
This sort of back story would sink any normal D candidate, which tells me he’s not a normal candidate; he’s being boosted as a rat copulation strategy and because our shit media is bored and needs a horse race to avoid having to do any icky and time consuming “research” or read up on “policy proposals” , how dare we expect them to do that.
Skepticat
@Trivia Man: Are there enough people that still remember those days?
I’m old, so I do remember those days. I was a senior in high school when Jack was assassinated, in college when Bobby was, and I worked with Ted Kennedy, both on ads for a campaign and when he was involved with a public-private organization of which I was president. I was surprised and pleased that he was a thoughtful, kind, and rather reticent person, but did he ever wow the older women when campaigning; I was lucky not to get trampled! His second wife, Vickie, was the best campaigner in the family. One of my former significant others was his chief of staff. They all would be or are appalled by Junior; I certainly am.
Ruckus
@Martin:
I was in HS when JFK was assassinated.
And yes the democratic party is theoretically about democracy and equality and many/maybe most rich people do seem to be extremely self centered, as in their worlds rotate around the pole stuck up their asses. But the Kennedy clan of the day was a bit different. This one of their offspring seems to have that same pole in that same location.
Mai Naem mobileI
Because of the Twitter stuff yesterday I ended up looking at Jack Dorsey’s tweets. Looks like he’s supporting RFK Jr. I know Dorsey donated money to Tulsi Gabbard in 2016 but I thought maybe that was just a one off. Nah, he’s also supporting freeing Assange and ofcourse bitcoin. Always follow the $$$.
mrmoshpotato
@Geminid:
When/where is this taking place so I can avoid it?
Baud
I’m so old I remember when Hillary was an unacceptable candidate because people were worried about political dynasties.
mrmoshpotato
@Sister Golden Bear: Didn’t know it could get that spicy at 4000 feet.
We’re at 594 here, and it’s 65 and pouring.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Suffice it to say that I don’t think we’d be having this conversation at all about a Roberta Kennedy.
boatboy_srq
@Geminid: Trust the Post to publish dirt on a Democrat, sane or not-so.
I’m just harking back to the day when any divorce was enough to sink a candidate.
The little that bubbled up on a quick Google search is pretty horrific.
Still, between Gingrich’s serial womanizing and Lord Dampnut’s routine philandering, I think the “he’s been divorced N times” disqualifier is officially toast.
boatboy_srq
@Anyway: Hairdresser Network sounds like a great synthwave band.
trollhattan
@Sister Golden Bear: So you could actually drive Ebbetts. Progress!
Getting grumpy waiting for backpacking season but this week’s gonna knock the crap out of the remaining snowpack. 108 today in the Valley.
Gretchen
@boatboy_srq: that diary sounds horrific, and the fact that he left it laying around the house where his wife could find it during the divorce is something else.
Uncle Cosmo
@patrick II: I speculate that SirSir was an 23rd-century operative sent back in time to kill RFK –
and the dumb barstid killed the wrong one.
Gin & Tonic
@StringOnAStick:
100% agree. Why this isn’t being mentioned in every profile written of him is a real tell.
Geminid
@mrmoshpotato: The DSA convention will be August 4-6. As to location, the party says it will be held:
I think the security concerns relate to other leftist groups and LaRouchites who might send fighters to attack DSA Delegates. That’s an old custom.
Most other people won’t even notice that the convention is going on. The DSA is a fairly small party whose membership was about 95,000 before it started dropping last year.
eclare
@StringOnAStick:
He encouraged her to commit suicide?
catclub
Good grief! Outdoing Newt Gingrich for marital assholery. newt was banging later to be wife #3 while running an impeachment against Clinton for infidelity.
wmd
“I don’t know what to say”
How about: you’ve been poisoning discourse with nonsense that keeps people aggrieved and militant. I hope that you find redemption and renounce the harm you continue to cause.
Brachiator
I know I am coming late to the thread. But it’s the holiday weekend. This bit about Kennedy Jr really bothered me.
Yeah, Biden is old. He has slowed down physically, but still seems mentally sharp to me.
However, I don’t understand the claims that he is unpopular. Yeah, there are polls, but I do not see that they are measuring anything substantive. Nobody can explain exactly where Biden or his policies have failed.
Instead, there is this “narrative” spun by the media, and the media loves their narratives, that Biden v Trump is a rerun that bores the public. And the public supposedly wants fresh faces. Because they get bored so easily, and politics is a game.
Anyway
It’s not the Kennedy name, it’s that he’s signal-boosted by Dorsey, Rogan, Bannon – they’re great ratfuckers. Thwarting Ds is the goal.
boatboy_srq
@Gretchen: Agreed. Still not entirely dissimilar to sleeping with your soon-to-be-third-wife, whilst divorcing your hospitalized second wife.
Geminid
@boatboy_srq: Well, Gingrich never got anywhere after he left the House. He was said to be on Trump’s short list for VP, and I remember hoping Trump would pick him. Besides his messy divorces, Gingrich is very dislikeable.
You are right that divorce is not that great an impediment generally, but the particular circumstances of this one would sink a serious candidate for public office. RFK Jr. is not a serious candidate though, just a crank with a famous name who Republicans are pushing as a chaos agent.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Maybe for Republicans, I can’t think of an example of this being accepted for Democrats at such a high level.
I’ve been thinking of IOKIYAR as a principle. So much of their thinking appears to be wrapped up in identity.
If one criticizes a statement as racist, the response will often come “I’m not a racist.” It’s that little “a” that’s the problem. A racist. A good person. A Christian. A criminal. A Supreme Court Justice.
The prevailing view from the right, as I understand it, is that all things are downstream from these identitarian traits.
Identity confers authority or lack thereof and defines what other traits you may carry. If an action displays a trait that does not fit with your identity, it may be dismissed.
NutmegAgain
Don’t they say that it takes 3 generations for a great fortune to run its course? So, Grandpa Joe made the dough by being an SOB of all sorts, then there was RFK, and who knows? life cut short. Finally this dipshit. It’s just too damned bad that he has the money and connections to potentially do some damage before he flames out, which I hope is soon. (Not for nothing but I thought the point of the Kennedy’s for republicans was to harangue about Teddy & Chappaquiddick. Now they like a Kennedy? sheesh.)
trollhattan
@Anyway: Agree. We’re one if not two generations removed from the era when the Kennedy name had significant clout. He’s a footnote from chapter 15, bundled in 2023 marketing shrinkwrap.
eclare
Thunder! Fingers crossed for rain.
Gvg
@patrick II: i don’t think their were as many kookie conspiracy theorists attracted to Bobbies death as JFK’s but i wonder if they hung around the Kennedys and eventually warped this ones thinking.
Westyny
@mrmoshpotato: Do we know whether the cat is alive or otherwise?
Sallycat
I was 17 years old when Bobby Kennedy was murdered. That event and the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., had a profound effect on me and my life, and I’m not related. I can’t imagine the effect it would have on a 14 or 15 year old son. Not to excuse RFK’s harmful (to others) belief system or whatever it is. The media is playing with a dangerously disturbed individual when it should be ignoring him.
pieceofpeace
@patrick II: Good piece, but I don’t think he’s trying to fit nor further the path of his father.
He’s doing this for himself, his father is merely the medium he’s chosen to employ toward that egotistical end, since any other is absent.
Uncle Cosmo
Well, start learning: Kathleen Kennedy-Townsend, LtGov of MD 1995-2003, ran such an inept campaign for Governor in 2002 that she lost & subjected us to 4 years of Rethuglican misrule until a Democrat who actually knew what he was doing kicked the bastard’s arse out of the Governor’s Mansion and kept it out in the 2010 rematch.
boatboy_srq
@Cameron: From the article:
That Everglades restoration effort is all but pointless with all the development further north. Already saltwater intrusion into the aquifer feeding the state is miles inland and only getting worse; the waters that feed the Everglades are becoming toxic to that ecosystem and no amount of “restoration” will offset the damage being caused. See here for detail.
And tax breaks for generators are an admission both of the inability of the state to produce power sufficient for all the growth and of that same state to prepare adequately for the local natural disaster cycle. Florida is NOT ready for hurricanes. The only reason Shrub got a second term is because brother HEB! covered for the catastrophe that the ’04 storm season proved to be. Had anyone else been in Tallahassee, the nation would have seen Katrina-like effects a year earlier. That was nearly two decades ago and, between Governor Voldemort and his even more evil replacement, FL state emergency response is toast.
boatboy_srq
@Geminid: I think Ivana, and Marla Maples, might disagree that RFK2’s sins are too great to overlook. They seem merely incrementally awful compared to what we have seen recently and had too many US voters tolerate. I would hope that Dems have better ethics, and I don’t expect RFK2 to do more than play in the margins. But I think the US electorate as a whole has decided personal morals aren’t a deciding factor in the general election.
Gretchen
@eclare: he left a diary with details of 37 women he had affairs with in the house where she could/did find it.
Geminid
@boatboy_srq: I agree in general. Not in RFK’s case though. That story is devastating.
Mike S. (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)
@MattF: I’d rather see reporters ask him about current controversies, especially the recent SCROTUS decisions. How about the Dobbs decision, greenlighting gerrymanderins, throwing out affirmative action, et al. Plus the Thomas/Alito vacation club?
What should the tax rate be for income from inheritated wealth?
Maybe also how he feels about obstruction of justice at Mar-a-Lardo and the Jarvanka-Saudi corruption?
This is off the top of my head. what did I miss?
Jinchi
Yes. Everyone in political media.
They love the idea of an American aristocracy, with the presidency passed down from father to son or husband to wife, and maybe trading between a Republican and a Democratic family every eight years. They’ve long fantasized about this with the Clintons, the Bushes, the Kennedys (and now disgustingly the TFG clan). RFK Sr. was supposed to be president after JFK’s death, so it’s only right and natural that RFK Jr. should get the reigns, despite never having served in any elected office, himself.
For the media the narrative of Camelot has lasted long after the average American forgot that it was even a thing.
Bill Arnold
@Mai Naem mobileI:
Such techbros are not wrong about this, but it took like 5+ years for the very interesting research to percolate into their bubbles. E.g. from 2018, Psychedelics Promote Structural and Functional Neural Plasticity (12 June 2018 , full, open access, (pdf))
Plasticizers can help only so much, though, if the starting point is a selfish amoral sociopath. (Also, they work less well for older people.)
Dorothy A. Winsor
Just a reminder if you’re interested: Sunday is the day the You Don’t Know Jack podcast is posted. It’s about Jack Smith and one of the hosts is Andy McCabe. My former FBI buddy says whatever you think about McCabe, he’s smart and worth listening to. You can just go to the link and click.
Captain C
@Doug R: That also nicely associates him with failson Shrubya (now reduced to painting cheesy portraits of himself on the can).
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
The failure of this project has led to a parallel, far more successful project that seeks to supplant our elected government with billionaires.
I can’t wait to see Bezos replicate the Norman conquest for a modern era.
UncleEbeneezer
@Sister Golden Bear: Ugh. We’ve had a couple Sierra trips that were made somewhat miserable due to the heat. We went to Shake Campground on the Western side of the Sierra years ago and it was in the 90’s, humid and tons of mosquitoes. It wasn’t the funnest trip.
Captain C
@Carlo Graziani: No more or less than he deserves.
eclare
@Gretchen:
Oh. How awful.
bbleh
@Amir Khalid: oho! That’s just what they want you to think…!
@Brachiator: they also want a horse-race, because that’s by far the easiest and safest way to write about politics.
I haven’t seen anything to suggest that the “old” thing is having much effect. It might even backfire, among older voters who resent being caricatured as feeble. But it’s also far too early to say: a lot of people are still comparing actual candidates to perfect ones when they respond to polls, or just being cranky, or playing games.
cliosfanboy
The Robert Kennedys. The first time as tragedy, the second as farce.
UncleEbeneezer
@mrmoshpotato: When it’s hot in CA, even the high altitude will get pretty hot during daytime. It will cool off drastically at night, but during the day even up at 8-10,000 feet I’ve endured some really uncomfortable days.
tobie
@Brachiator: Traistar is speaking for herself when she refers to the “many Dems” worried about Biden’s age. Maybe her friends in the leftist commentariat share her views but I don’t think they reflect the opinions of Democratic voters as a whole. “Many say” is a cop out for a journalist. I expect better.
GrueBleen
Ok, so “Bursting with madness” he is, but surely the fundamental question is: how did he get to be that way ?
Was he born that way ? How could anybody be born that way ? So then he “just grewed that way”? But how ? Was his entire family and closish relatives that way and inflicted it upon him ? So anyway, here’s something to think about:
“Regularly examine what you believe. We don’t do this enough. As life progresses, our beliefs and attitudes may change, and we need to know how these changing ideas affect us. When we are not sure what we believe, it’s all too easy to allow someone else who is sure that their beliefs are right—not only for them but for you as well—to attempt to manipulate your thinking”
9 Classic Strategies of Manipulative People
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-flux/201610/9-classic-strategies-manipulative-people
Bill Arnold
@Brachiator:
They are being absolutely dishonest, here, because D.J.. Trump will be facing seriously prosecutions though 2024, and perhaps will have been convicted of felonies. This will affect his “candidacy” negatively, no matter how much parts of the press will try to spin it as boosting him.
Jay
Twitter is still down for me.
Cameron
@catclub: Wasn’t Newtie the bro that told one of his wives he wanted a divorce while she was in the hospital getting cancer therapy? The pride of Hummelstown, PA.
Mai Naem mobileI
I don’t know if they would do it or if it’s appropriate but it would help if the other Kennedys spoke up. Caroline Kennedy? Rory Kennedy? Is Teddy Jr still around? The one who was elected in California whose name escapes me. Even Arnold Schwarzenegger might help with his body building stuff.
Cameron
@boatboy_srq: Yeah, but he sports them white boots like nobody else. And I seem to recall that Arizona and Florida are the two states which get the most sunshine, ergo the two states that should be leading the charge on solar power. I won’t hold my breath.
trollhattan
@cliosfanboy: I would type that as the Roberts Kennedy. :-)
prostratedragon
Geminid@108: I think it tells something about them that they’d hold a non-election year convention in Chicago in mid-August.
trollhattan
@Mai Naem mobileI: Arnie’s ex is a Kennedy, Maria Shriver.
Frankensteinbeck
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation:
So much this. They want a heated primary to prove both-sides-but-Democrats-are-worse so bad.
@Mai Naem mobileI:
Yeah, Jack is a piece of shit. I was determined to ignore Bluesky, but someone here (M4?) said he actually isn’t running it and was just one of three founders. I haven’t investigated, but if so that’s important.
Mike S. (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)
@Mike S. (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!): A few more things I want to see Jr. asked about by reporters:
LGBQ+ rights, esp. Drag Queen Story hours
Expanding and improving rhe affordable care act.
Let him tell us all how his Uncle Ted was doing it wrong.
Citizen Alan
@Baud: I also know liberal (white) women who utterly hate Hillary because she didn’t divorce Bill.
Gin & Tonic
Yeah, as to the lingering appeal of the Kennedy name – our resident Massholes will know this, but in 2020 Joe Kennedy III, RFK’s grandson, nutjob’s nephew, ran for Senate, mounting a primary campaign against Ed Markey. Billboards just said “KENNEDY,” as if that was all that was necessary. He lost. I think it was the first time a Kennedy lost an election in Massachusetts.
Geminid
@prostratedragon: I think the DSA holds its biennial conventions in odd years so as to better keep their distance from the Democratic Party. They are very conflicted about “electoralism,” and the unwillingness of DSA members to toe the DSA line once elected to Congress as Democrats will be a matter of controversy at this convention.
Frankensteinbeck
@Citizen Alan:
My mother is one. She voted for Hillary because Republicans must be stopped, but yeah, exactly what you said. Bill cheated, Hillary didn’t divorce him, so she is a very bad person.
SFAW
@The Kropenhagen Interpretation:
You think so? I would think it would be long, because the “author” would have a number of “OK, no, that’s not really why he’s appealing; let me explain it in a different way … No, that’s not quite right, let’s try it this way … No, wait, THIS is what I really am trying to say!”
Kinda like he was trying to give directions to Millinocket.
zhena gogolia
@Frankensteinbeck: God, I do not understand this attitude at all.
Scout211
We don’t live in Copper (that’s what the locals call it) but at the same elevation, further north in the same county. Our high yesterday was 109. It should be at least 109 today. It’s already 103 (at 12:45) and the hottest part of the day is around 5:00 pm. Ugh. We were so spoiled with our cool June temps. No one is ready for this.
Geminid
@Mike S. (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!): RFK Jr. may just avoid serious questions from serious journalists altogether. Right now he seems to favor appearances with friendly podcast hosts.
David Sacks and Peter Thiel keep a stable of a dozen or so of them on their media platform. I think it’s called Gitter, but I call it the Horse Shoe Channel. The person who runs the “Post Left Watch” twitter account reports on this network extensively.
Brachiator
@Baud:
I’m not too crazy about political nepotism, but I don’t have a hard rule against it.
But I also remember when some people were happy at the idea that Hillary would win and Bill Clinton would return to the White House as the First Gentleman.
Steeplejack
Good laugh line in that New York article about R.F.K. Jr.’s book American values:
A true populist!
Matt McIrvin
@Gin & Tonic: and Joe III isn’t even a bad guy–he’d done fine in the House. It was just, nobody was sure why he was running against Markey aside from a very general “new blood” argument and being a Kennedy.
🐾BillinGlendaleCA
@Sister Golden Bear: I hiked Little Lakes Valley in the eastern Sierra last month(a month ago today); snow was everywhere and all the lakes were frozen over. You couldn’t see the trail, so I had to go from memory. Next time I’ll get some microspikes before heading out.
trollhattan
@Scout211: There’s nothing hotter than the lower Sierra foothills until you get to either end of the Central Valley–your Bakersfields and Red Bluffs.
Can’t count how many times I’ve returned from the mountains on 80 and hit Auburn at 105, to then arrive home in Sac at 90. My theory is it doesn’t get a chance to cool down overnight–the heat just gets trapped as high as 5k because of the inversion that forms over the Valley in summer and again during winter fog season.
trollhattan
@Steeplejack: ”Rose Kennedy grabbed my ass in the Macy’s elevator, I swear!”
prostratedragon
Geminid@175: So since they’re in off-years, there’s less reason to have them in the middle of the Windy City’s summer doldrum. In the winter we shovel snow. In the summer we shovel the air.
kindness
Any ‘poll’ that gives Kennedy anything more than 3% isn’t worth the pixels it’s written with. Same thing with the No Labels group. All they are trying to be is spoilers for Joe Biden. No Labels leaders are doing it for the money Harlan Crow et al are paying them. Kennedy is doing it I guess because he’s an egotistical loon.
Princess
@dmsilev: Also too, he doesn’t know what Zeitgeist means. A person doesn’t have a Zeitgeist. It means spirit of the age. So he’s a pompous poser who likes to use big words he doesn’t understand on top of his other failings.
Mai Naem mobileI
@Cameron: hey, it may not be leading but Arizona is number three in per capita solar. The one problem I see with adaptation of solar is that it’s the tax advantages that are pushed as much as the solar so you get high income people who already live in more energy efficient homes who will do it because for tax break. It’s the lower income homeowners who are more likely to live in older lower energy efficient homes but there’s a decent chance they won’t be able to use the tax break. Add on top of that that you have to qualify for the loan for the solar. Guess who’s less likely to be able to qualify?
Dan B
@trollhattan: At least in the north of the valley a high pressure system pushes air from higher elevations downhill. As ut descends it compresses and heats. We get this in Seattle but especially in the foothills. When the high is parked over eastern Washington and a low is over the Pacific the foothills communities will be in the 90’s and up.
burritoboy
To be a delegate to the DSA National Convention, you need to be elected by your DSA chapter and be a member. I am myself a delegate to the DSA National Convention. DSA is not a political party, and, at least for me, never should become a political party itself. The conventions are on the time line they are on primarily for historical reasons (every two years for internal governance reasons). And I would say that having the convention precisely fall upon presidential election year would tend to distort what the convention is intended to do – which is not to organize presidential runs.
There has been considerable discussion around the behavior of what calls itself our “International Committee”, and my own opinion of them is……well, let’s just say I find some of their actions significantly less than well advised, and that would be the very nicest version of my thoughts.
Other MJS
I wear seat belts, but I wouldn’t call it my zeitgeist.
Denali5
Somehow I feel that giving attention to RFK Jr. is like giving attention to TFG. The more clicks he gets, the more space the media is going to give him. What is the downside of ignoring him?
Sister Golden Bear
@trollhattan: Tioga Pass (east of Yosemite) is still closed due to snow.
Geminid
@burritoboy: Well, sorry I made fun of you guys. I generally give DSA members credit for sincerity and a constructive attitude, but I like to joke around too.
Do you think there will be much of a fight over a resolution concerning the Ukraine war?
Another Scott
Melon seemingly has broken the “syndication.twitter.com” hack now – I just get a “this page is down” notice.
He’s determined, isn’t he?
Oh well.
[eta:]
Cheers,
Scott.
Steeplejack
@Another Scott:
Could you line-break your lengthy Mastodon addresses? This one is breaking the margin.
Betty Cracker
@tobie: I hope you’re right, but my impression is the commentariat here are the outliers on Biden’s age. It’s very much a concern among the normies I know, and what data we have (lots of polls) seem to bear out that it’s a widespread concern.
The good news is even the people who think Biden’s too old will almost certainly come around when it’s Biden and Trump, also old, on the ballot.
Skepticat
For. The. Win.
Geminid
@Betty Cracker: Yes, a Trump nomination would take the age issue off the board more or less.
That prospect is seeming more and more likely. Trump’s rally turnout was starting to dwindle last year, but it came back with a bang at yesterday’s rally in Pickens, South Carolina. The cult is still strong. It would take a strong candidate to beat him, and there are none that I can see.
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: The long mastodon account names in your comments are breaking the margins. :-)
This is the second one I have fixed today – I have added a space before or after the @ symbol.
I didn’t want you to think you were going crazy.
Geminid
@Geminid: And even if there was a strong enough candidate to beat Trump for the nomination, it would take a very strong candidate to surmount defections by Trump supporters in the general election.
Another Scott
@Steeplejack: @WaterGirl:
Sorry.
I plead distractions – fighting with plumbing (replacing the kitchen garbage disposal. Have I mentioned recently how much I hate plumbing??!!ONE).
Thanks for the fix.
Cheers,
Scott.
NotMax
@Captain C
But with nary a box in the background.
//
burritoboy
Feel free to call out things you see as less-than-well-formed in DSA (let’s call it that). There’s no shortage, and constructive criticism is always necessary.
The discussion currently is less about Ukraine specifically or alone rather than the “International Committee”‘s entire status, and their stances on many issues, not just Ukraine. The issue(s) is unfortunately much deeper than that alone.
Betty Cracker
@Geminid: Definitely. I’m cautiously optimistic!
The Lodger
@Amir Khalid: My cats have typically entered bags on their own. No scam needed.
Steeplejack
@Another Scott:
Since you’re a savvy FYWP user, here’s a helpful One Weird Trick:
In text mode, you can use ​ to insert a “zero-width space.” It doesn’t show up but allows a line break (with no hyphen) when needed. Use it before the @ signs in your long Mastodon addresses.
Another Scott
@Steeplejack: FYWP isn’t consistent in its wrapping of URLs. Some giant ones posted by others seem to get wrapped fine (in Chrome on Winders, and in Brave on Android, anyway – I don’t know if it breaks other browsers); others seem to cause the broken margin issues. Maybe it doesn’t do its URL wrapping magic unless it’s one of the original TLDs (.com, .gov, .net, etc.)?
When we were at our home away from home during the hosting Disaster, a nice feature was that the version of FYWP there automagically replaced URLs with “Link” or something similarly short. It would be nice if we get that functionality back on the next rebuild.
In the meantime, I’ll try to be careful about always linkifying Mastodon (and similar) URLs. Thanks for the tip about the zero-width space. :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
Steeplejack
@Another Scott:
In my experience, FYWP breaks (or does not break) long “words” consistently, based on the characters therein. I haven’t done an analysis, but I think that, for example, “/” breaks okay but “@” does not. I’ll start keeping notes.
The “next rebuild” is always a worthy goal, but for now we have to use the build we have.
rikyrah
@Will:
I am so glad the Democrats have changed the order of contests in 2024. It would have been unbearable for him to.get traction in Iowa or New Hampshire and the media amplify him.
Another Scott
@Steeplejack: Here’s an example of a huge URL that wraps fine for me in Chrome on Winders. #94.
First break is after “2”, second is after “-“.
FWIW.
Thanks for your efforts here.
Cheers,
Scott.