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Open Thread – We’ll Take Good News Where We Can Get It

by WaterGirl|  October 11, 20232:43 pm| 64 Comments

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One bit of really good news.

BREAKING: On a 2-1 vote, the 11th Circuit DENIES Florida’s request that it be allowed to enforce its anti-drag law against everyone in the state except the plaintiffs during the appeal.

tl;dr: The law remains wholly blocked.

Background at Law Dork: https://t.co/IwjTd5hYCP pic.twitter.com/vgzftYFeaZ

— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner) October 11, 2023

⭐️

What other good things have you seen in the news today?

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    hueyplong

    October 11, 2023 at 2:58 pm

    Another good thing:  Today’s limited evidence indicates that the McCarthy removal fiasco hasn’t taught the House howler monkeys anything about how to govern.

  2. 2.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2023 at 2:59 pm

    Asshole federal judge’s (GWB appointee) overturn of CA ban of large clips/magazine/ammo-holder thingies has been stayed by higher-ranking federal judges, so screw you, dude.

    Despite a federal judge’s ruling overturning California’s ban on large-capacity firearm magazines for a second time, the law remains in effect after the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals — which oversees federal cases from California — issued a stay on the judge’s order pending further legal proceedings.

    With that decision, gun magazines with more than 10 rounds remain illegal to purchase, sell or transfer in California. “We are relieved that the court considered the public safety of Californians in its decision to grant our motion and maintain the restrictions on large-capacity magazines pending a decision on appeal,” said California Attorney General Rob Bonta, who is defending the law, in a statement.

    In September, U.S. District Court Judge Roger Benitez, [the asshole in question] known for fiery [“fiery” does not mean the same thing as idiotic, reporter person] language in his legal opinions and an ardent defense of the Second Amendment, overturned the state’s ban. The San Diego-based judge called the law “clearly unconstitutional.” Benitez wrote of several instances where people defending themselves with firearms relied on large-capacity ammunition magazines. “Woe to the victim who runs out of ammunition before armed attackers do. [Did you just return from Donbas?] The police will mark the ground with chalk, count the number of shell casings, and file the report,” Benitez wrote.

    The 9th Circuit’s en banc panel in San Francisco, by a 7-4 vote, did not agree with his assessment of the merits of the law. “First, we conclude that the Attorney General is likely to succeed on the merits,” the circuit court wrote in its statement. The court noted that there have been 10 other federal challenges of state ammunition capacity laws, and only one of those challenges — in the Southern District of Illinois — granted a preliminary injunction halting the law. The court also notes that California could face irreparable harm if the ban is allowed to be lifted.

    “If a stay is denied, California indisputably will face an influx of large-capacity magazines like those used in mass shootings in California and elsewhere,” the court wrote. [Hey look, sane people doing law!]

    Benitez had dismissed mass shootings as the actions of a “few mad men.”

    “Finally, we conclude that the public interest tips in favor of a stay,” the appellate panel wrote in its ruling. “The public has a compelling interest in promoting public safety, as mass shootings nearly always involve large-capacity magazines, and, although the public has an interest in possessing firearms and ammunition for self-defense, that interest is hardly affected by this stay.”

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article280396879.html#storylink=cpy

    And that concludes my good news.

  3. 3.

    Old School

    October 11, 2023 at 3:01 pm

    Haven’t seen a lot of good news, so…. Bigfoot!

  4. 4.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 11, 2023 at 3:02 pm

    BREAKING: On a 2-1 vote, the 11th Circuit DENIES Florida’s request that it be allowed to enforce its anti-drag law against everyone in the state except the plaintiffs during the appeal.

    I wanna move to Florida if fear of drag queens is their worst problem!  Sounds lovely – and fabulous!

    These imbeciles…

  5. 5.

    Alison Rose

    October 11, 2023 at 3:04 pm

    @trollhattan: Benitez is such a putz.

  6. 6.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 11, 2023 at 3:09 pm

    The removal of two dams on the Elwha river in Washington had restored the river to its natural habitat in a big win for nature.

  7. 7.

    eclare

    October 11, 2023 at 3:11 pm

    @trollhattan:

    That is good news!

  8. 8.

    Baud

    October 11, 2023 at 3:14 pm

    The post says open thread, and this is not good news, but just news.  This was on Reddit, but I do not vouch for the site that they linked to, which I’ve never heard of.

    The chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee in the American House of Representatives, Michael McCaul, revealed that Egypt warned Israel of “such an event” three days before the start of the war. “We know that Egypt warned the Israelis three days before, that such an event could happen,” McCaul said.

  9. 9.

    Frankensteinbeck

    October 11, 2023 at 3:19 pm

    @Baud:

    The Netenyahu government at first denied it, then admitted it was true.  I’m sure that went over well.

  10. 10.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 11, 2023 at 3:20 pm

    @Baud: ​ 

    I just read that same link.

    In good news, not sad news like Baud is fond of, the misery-loving maniac, Jason Kelce (older brother of Travis Kelce, known for dating Tay Tay) got a haircut and his girls reacted.

  11. 11.

    eclare

    October 11, 2023 at 3:20 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Very good news.  I remember when hydro was considered a “clean” source of power.  It took us a while, but we figured out it isn’t when it comes to damage to habitats.

  12. 12.

    eclare

    October 11, 2023 at 3:23 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    That’s cute!

  13. 13.

    Baud

    October 11, 2023 at 3:24 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    not sad news like Baud is fond of

     
    You will wallow and you will like it!

  14. 14.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 11, 2023 at 3:26 pm

    There are always the Gardiner Brothers to bring a smile (this time with a fantastic dancer from Paris).​
     

    Anyone up for a Chicago style Italian beef?

  15. 15.

    Baud

    October 11, 2023 at 3:28 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    I just thought it was interesting that the Republicans are admitting it too.

  16. 16.

    Baud

    October 11, 2023 at 3:35 pm

    Good news or bad news,. depending on your view of climate change and AI.

    Green Light uses machine learning systems to comb through Maps data to calculate the amount of traffic congestion present at a given light, as well as the average wait times of vehicles stopped there. That information is then used to train AI models that can autonomously optimize the traffic timing at that intersection, reducing idle times as well as the amount of braking and accelerating vehicles have to do there. It’s all part of Google’s goal to help its partners collectively reduce their carbon emissions by a gigaton by 2030.

  17. 17.

    eclare

    October 11, 2023 at 3:36 pm

    @Baud:

    It is.  And it looks like attempts to blame Iran for this specific act are going nowhere.

  18. 18.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 11, 2023 at 3:37 pm

    NEW: In March 2017, Leonard Leo arranged for a group of GOP megadonors to have a private audience with Justice Clarence Thomas…
    …at the Supreme Court.

    The leader of this group of donors?

    Paul Singer.

    Read about it in our new story:

  19. 19.

    Scout211

    October 11, 2023 at 3:40 pm

    I’m not sure if it is good news yet, but it’s a good start:

    Republican lawmakers to introduce resolution to expel Rep. George Santos from Congress 

    A group of House Republicans from New York are introducing a resolution to expel Rep. George Santos, R-N.Y., from Congress.

    “Today, I’ll be introducing an expulsion resolution to rid the People’s House of fraudster George Santos,” Rep. Anthony D’Esposito, R-N.Y., said in a post on the social media platform X.

    He told reporters he considers Santos “a stain” on the House and on New York state. “It’s time that we move on from George Santos,” D’Esposito said.

    He said the resolution will be co-sponsored by fellow New York House Republicans Nick LaLota, Mike Lawler, Marc Molinaro, Nick Langworthy and Brandon Williams.

  20. 20.

    Baud

    October 11, 2023 at 3:40 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    I don’t see how ProPublica doesn’t win a Pulitzer for this series.

  21. 21.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2023 at 3:42 pm

    @Baud: BBC picked up on the story, to the extent it is quoting McCaul.

    Has anybody seen Condi Rice recently?

  22. 22.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 11, 2023 at 3:42 pm

    @Baud: ​ 

    All the Pulitzers.

  23. 23.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2023 at 3:44 pm

    @Scout211: Believe that’s been withdrawn and replaced with, “Republican lawmakers, led by George Santos, to introduce bill installing George Santos as God-King of all humankind.”

  24. 24.

    Frankensteinbeck

    October 11, 2023 at 3:44 pm

    @Scout211:

    Okay, that surprises me.  The Republican ethos is that the law is for punishing Others.

  25. 25.

    Ruckus

    October 11, 2023 at 3:44 pm

    @hueyplong:

    It is difficult to teach a wild mutt how to be a nuclear physicist but it might be less difficult than to teach a howler monkey how to be actually human.

  26. 26.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 11, 2023 at 3:48 pm

    @trollhattan: ​ 

    George Santos letting Scalise know that he wants to be shielded from removal in exchange for his Speaker vote.

  27. 27.

    Scout211

    October 11, 2023 at 3:49 pm

    Good news! California is not banning skittles! Don’t believe that social media rumor. Everything is fine, skittles lovers! Link

    Will Skittles no longer be sold in California?

    That’s the question that’s on Californians’ minds after a bill was recently passed in the state that aims to change some of the ingredients found in America’s most popular candies and snacks.

    These four ingredients are brominated vegetable oil, potassium bromate, propylparaben and red dye No. 3.

    Since titanium dioxide, an ingredient in Skittles, was originally included in the bill, many people believed that the candy would be banned in California.

    But, as it turns out, titanium dioxide was dropped from the ban, making Skittles exempt from the changes. And since Skittles don’t have any of the other four ingredients listed above in them, it’s safe to say the candy will be safe from any major changes — for now.

  28. 28.

    C Stars

    October 11, 2023 at 3:53 pm

    Well, relatedly:

    At a time when drag is under attack, San Francisco is getting its first school dedicated to the art form.

    The Stud Collective, the group behind the soon-to-reopen LGBTQ bar the Stud, is partnering with performing arts organization CounterPulse to create a new school that will teach the fundamentals of drag performance and the history of San Francisco’s unique, gender-punk drag legacy.

    “We believe and we want to make sure that the world knows that drag is a folk art that has been around for all time. As long as recorded history, as far back as the Phoenicians, there is a history of drag,” said Stud Collective member Nate Allbee. “We want to show off the beauty of San Francisco drag and the Stud’s role as a birthplace of modern drag.”

     

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/entertainment/theater/article/sf-drag-school-18417947.php

  29. 29.

    Cacti

    October 11, 2023 at 3:54 pm

    The good news is that Biden’s speech on the Israel situation wasn’t just the same warmed over excuses, omissions, and platitudes brought out every time the effects of Israel’s policies come home to roost.

    I’m lying. It was exactly what I described.

  30. 30.

    Bill Arnold

    October 11, 2023 at 3:55 pm

    @Baud:

    I don’t see how ProPublica doesn’t win a Pulitzer for this series.

    They should, but they should also do Executive Summary versions, and maybe TL;DR versions.
    Just saying.
    That new one is queued up for reading in a browser tab, sometime in the next several days.

  31. 31.

    Ruckus

    October 11, 2023 at 3:55 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Is it possible that this judge failed maths in school? Does he have a concept that the population of LA county is larger than that of 40 states? Life is not muskets and powder horns and it shouldn’t be considered to be armed military conflict either. We live in a world of over 7 BILLION humans. Maybe it’s time that we don’t all carry high powered, high capacity weapons just in case someone else insanely carrying a high powered, high capacity weapon walks into the store you are in and some other idiot thinks they are being attacked and WWIII is started. I thought this was at least supposed to be an  advanced human based society – not an advanced high powered weapon based society with living idiots in charge.

  32. 32.

    Redshift

    October 11, 2023 at 3:56 pm

    I know Florida has a quack as its surgeon general, but this makes me think their AG has hired Trump lawyers, too.

    Florida’s request that it be allowed to enforce its anti-drag law against everyone in the state except the plaintiffs during the appeal.

    “Your honor, we want to pretend the plaintiff isn’t trying to get the law ruled unconstitutional, okay?”

  33. 33.

    WaterGirl

    October 11, 2023 at 3:57 pm

    @Baud: Betty was right!

    She predicted we would find that there was something like:

    Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US

    Yes, my open threads are open.

  34. 34.

    WaterGirl

    October 11, 2023 at 4:00 pm

    @Scout211: I see that the reps from NY want to be re-elected in 2024. :-)

    @Frankensteinbeck:  Also, too.

  35. 35.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2023 at 4:01 pm

    @Ruckus: Preach!

    In an earlier gun ruling, this knucklehead favorably compared the AR-15 with the Swiss army knife. Funny, how just one of those fits in my pocket.

  36. 36.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2023 at 4:02 pm

    @Scout211: We will have our Skittles as long as Marshawn Lynch lives in Oakland.

  37. 37.

    WaterGirl

    October 11, 2023 at 4:04 pm

    @Scout211: Skittles should be a schedule 4 drug.

    I mean, have you seen a child after they eat a bag of skittles?  Oh. my. god.  Sugar rush in a 7-year-old is not pretty.

  38. 38.

    Baud

    October 11, 2023 at 4:05 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I said it first. Harrumph.

  39. 39.

    WaterGirl

    October 11, 2023 at 4:10 pm

    @Baud: Oops.

    Head hanging in shame, am I forgiven?

  40. 40.

    Baud

    October 11, 2023 at 4:11 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Sure, why not?

  41. 41.

    WaterGirl

    October 11, 2023 at 4:12 pm

    Food fight!

    Assclowns. https://t.co/QPZ4Rxaich

    — Mueller, She Wrote 🇺🇦 🇮🇱 (@MuellerSheWrote) October 11, 2023

    I hope they shit the bed with 10 Speaker votes and embarrass themselves further before settling on a Speaker.

  42. 42.

    Cacti

    October 11, 2023 at 4:13 pm

    @trollhattan: Yes, it’s a truly versatile weapon. You can use it to shoot things or…shoot things. Just like the wide array of items with different functions found on a Swiss Army Knife.

  43. 43.

    cain

    October 11, 2023 at 4:15 pm

    @Scout211: Look as long as the very addictive lemonheads are not getting banned then everything is fine.

  44. 44.

    eclare

    October 11, 2023 at 4:17 pm

    @trollhattan:

    ???  Is he a huge Skittles fan?

  45. 45.

    Scout211

    October 11, 2023 at 4:17 pm

    @WaterGirl: Food fight!

    Also, under the table deals, guarantees, and promises to be made.  GOP House members’ votes can’t can be bought!

  46. 46.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2023 at 4:19 pm

    @eclare: Huge. Got to the point where Seattle fans would shower him in the end zone with the things after he scored.

    Truly one of my favorite sports characters.

  47. 47.

    Bill Arnold

    October 11, 2023 at 4:25 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    George Santos letting Scalise know that he wants to be shielded from removal in exchange for his Speaker vote.

    That wedge in the House GOP really needs to be worked to the max.

    ETA George Santos is starting to make them look really bad; willing to renounce law-and-order for power.

  48. 48.

    wjca

    October 11, 2023 at 4:27 pm

    @Bill Arnold: That wedge in the House GOP really needs to be worked to the max.

    Why did I initially read that as wedgie?

  49. 49.

    gene108

    October 11, 2023 at 4:32 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    Okay, that surprises me. The Republican ethos is that the law is for punishing Others.

    Sacrifice Santos so the rest of the NYS Republicans don’t have guilt by association to Santos dragging them down next year.

  50. 50.

    Ruckus

    October 11, 2023 at 4:35 pm

    @trollhattan:

    And the one that fits in your pocket doesn’t have a range of a mile or two and it is a lot more difficult to kill with than the weapon that has that range. It’s why nations give their troops ballistic weapons and knives.

  51. 51.

    cain

    October 11, 2023 at 4:43 pm

    @Bill Arnold: The sunday shows are gonna suck – I don’t think any GOP is going to show up. Usually they don’t invite Dems – maybe they will now.

  52. 52.

    eclare

    October 11, 2023 at 4:48 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Thanks!  Didn’t know that.

  53. 53.

    WaterGirl

    October 11, 2023 at 4:50 pm

    @Scout211: And right out in the open, like Santos.  He is utterly shameless – he published his letter that said Scalise would get his vote in exchange for not being booted.

  54. 54.

    Bill Arnold

    October 11, 2023 at 4:51 pm

    @cain:
    NYMag has a pretty good summary/oppo dossier:
    THE TALENTED MR. SANTOS – Here’s Every Single Lie Told by George Santos (Matt Stieb and Margaret Hartmann, updated October 11, 2023)

  55. 55.

    HumboldtBlue

    October 11, 2023 at 4:52 pm

    @eclare: ​ 

    Huge

  56. 56.

    eversor

    October 11, 2023 at 4:58 pm

    @Ruckus:

    Despite it’s monkier a Swiss Army Knife is not actually a combat knife.  There’s a reason we issue people big honking ass fixed blades.  Which in addition actually being good for killing people (a Swiss Army Knife is not, not even remotely, don’t attempt that) function as pry bars, hammers, and rope cutting tools.  You can wedge a KA-BAR between two things and jump up and stomp the handle to pry something open and it won’t break.  Along those lines you can also kill someone not merely dead but most truly dead by whacking them in the head with the nasty end of a trenching shovel.

    There’s also the issue that if you bust out a pocket knife at the office nobody is going to notice or even flee.  Shit people will often ask if anyone has a knife.  But nobody is going to ask you if you have an AR-15 and if you bust one out in a meeting people are going to panic.

  57. 57.

    eclare

    October 11, 2023 at 5:07 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    Hahaha…

  58. 58.

    mrmoshpotato

    October 11, 2023 at 5:12 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Has anybody seen Condi Rice recently? 

    Well, I haven’t heard news of her death, so she’s not in Hell with Rumsfeld and Powell – yet.

  59. 59.

    WaterGirl

    October 11, 2023 at 5:25 pm

    @Bill Arnold: This also has a lot of his lies!

  60. 60.

    karen marie

    October 11, 2023 at 5:49 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Thanks for the link but wish it were direct instead of via Shitter.

  61. 61.

    tybee

    October 11, 2023 at 6:33 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

     

    That’s scary.

  62. 62.

    Bill Arnold

    October 11, 2023 at 6:34 pm

    @karen marie:
    I made the link but didn’t drop it here:
    We Don’t Talk About Leonard: The Man Behind the Right’s Supreme Court Supermajority – The inside story of how Leonard Leo built a machine that remade the American legal system — and what he plans to do next. (Andy Kroll, Andrea Bernstein and Ilya Marritz, illustrations by Nate Sweitzer for ProPublica, Oct. 11, 2023)

    On a chilly day in March 2017, about six weeks into Trump’s presidency, Leo arranged for a select group to have a private audience with Justice Clarence Thomas at the U.S. Supreme Court. The attendees were a group of high-net-worth donors who had been organized by Singer to marshal huge resources toward electing Republicans and pushing conservative causes. That afternoon, the donors spoke with Thomas. The previously unreported meeting was described by a person familiar with it and corroborated by planning documents.

  63. 63.

    Sally

    October 11, 2023 at 8:02 pm

    @Ruckus: 8 billion

  64. 64.

    Chris T.

    October 11, 2023 at 8:44 pm

    @Ruckus:

    Maybe it’s time that we don’t all carry high powered, high capacity weapons just in case someone else insanely carrying a high powered, high capacity weapon walks into the store you are in and some other idiot thinks they are being attacked and WWIII is started.

    Everyone should be issued a personal nuke, and if you see anything suspicious, like someone with the wrong color skin, you can just set off your nuke to take out a 20 block radius. You’ll die too, of course, and the residual radiation will make the area uninhabitable for a few decades, but what a small price to pay!

    (Do I need to add “/s” or “//” or whatever here?)

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