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You are here: Home / 2024 Elections / You Guys, I Think the GOP Might Not Be Any Good at This

You Guys, I Think the GOP Might Not Be Any Good at This

by TaMara|  March 12, 20242:24 pm| 203 Comments

This post is in: 2024 Elections, Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity

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I spent my lunch looking over some of the coverage of the Hur hearings. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the GOP just hit themselves in the nuts again.

Flag: Eric Swalwell has destroyed what is left of Hur. Hur is literally scratching his head. pic.twitter.com/9E7Fmpqe9g

— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) March 12, 2024

GOP Rep. Bishop is upset that the full interview transcript was released, which shows Republican counsel Robert Hur praising President Biden’s “photographic” memory and how “well” he remembered things during their interview pic.twitter.com/PgBibTumCu

— Biden-Harris HQ (@BidenHQ) March 12, 2024

President Biden immediately remembered the exact date that his son Beau passed away, despite Republican counsel Hur’s claim that he couldn’t remember pic.twitter.com/ug2WpNXmT0

— Biden-Harris HQ (@BidenHQ) March 12, 2024

 

Rep. Escobar: Did President Biden ever bring tens of thousands of people into spaces where he stored classified material? Did he direct his staff to move documents so the FBI could not find them? No. That’s in stark contrast to Trump. Biden did not obstruct your investigation pic.twitter.com/vyvT1Wt8Sz

— Biden-Harris HQ (@BidenHQ) March 12, 2024

The Biden-Harris HQ rapid response team is on top of all of it – they’re on Twitter and Threads.

Here’s is the ThreadReader link of Aaron Rupar’s excellent twitter thread coverage of the “hearing” so far.

Thread by Aaron Ruper

Here’s the link to the full transcript of the Hur Report.

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203Comments

  1. 1.

    Baud

    March 12, 2024 at 2:28 pm

    What a slimy guy. He says the word appears in the transcript, as if the deep state put it here. Doesn’t really admit he said the words.

  2. 2.

    JoyceH

    March 12, 2024 at 2:29 pm

    These guys are such CLOWNS! They’ll fling themselves into a public hearing assuming it’s going to work out as they fondly imagine it will – and it never, ever does!

    BTW, the Pentagon cleaned out some closets and found $300 million of ammo to send to Ukraine, so – yay.

  3. 3.

    Mike R

    March 12, 2024 at 2:30 pm

    @Baud: aren’t all republics a little bet slime coated?

  4. 4.

    Baud

    March 12, 2024 at 2:31 pm

    @Mike R:

    We can quibble about “little bit.”

  5. 5.

    ...now I try to be amused

    March 12, 2024 at 2:34 pm

    @Baud: “Words were said.”

  6. 6.

    MattF

    March 12, 2024 at 2:34 pm

    Experience shows that attempting to prove things that are not true is problematical. A hard lesson, apparently.

  7. 7.

    Steeplejack

    March 12, 2024 at 2:38 pm

    @Baud:

    He’s been doing that constantly. I haven’t heard him give a single “yes” or “no” answer. The lawyerly hair-splitting is maddening. I don’t know what insulation he thinks it gives him.

  8. 8.

    dmsilev

    March 12, 2024 at 2:38 pm

    Speaker Johnson, already not very good at an impossible job, just had his job get a bit harder. WaPo:

    Rep. Ken Buck (R-Colo.) said Tuesday that he will not serve out the rest of his term and will instead vacate his seat in Congress at the end of next week, further narrowing an already razor-thin House Republican majority.

    “I look forward to staying involved in our political process, as well as spending more time in Colorado and with my family,” Buck said in a brief statement.

    Buck had said in November that he would not seek reelection to another term, but his announcement Tuesday that he would depart Congress so soon was a surprise.

    Once Buck departs, Republicans will outnumber Democrats 218 to 213 in the House. That means Republicans can afford to lose only two votes to pass legislation along party lines when everyone is attending and voting.

    I’m pretty sure the number of nihilistic preening assholes in the GOP Caucus is well above two.

  9. 9.

    Geminid

    March 12, 2024 at 2:39 pm

    Veronica Escobar won Beto O’Rourke’s seat when he ran for Senator in 2018. Before that she was El Paso County Judge, a powerful position in Texas.

    Escobar and O’Rourke had an alliance going back years that a I read about in her Wikipedia biography.* The two El Pasoans teamed up with a couple other activists to wrest control of El Paso Democratic politics from its political establishment. El Pasoans called them “the Progressives.”

    *Well worth looking up.

  10. 10.

    azlib

    March 12, 2024 at 2:40 pm

    What a hit job. And they are not very good at it. Doesn’t Hur realize the Dems have lawyers and former prosecutors in Congress?

  11. 11.

    Anoniminous

    March 12, 2024 at 2:40 pm

    @JoyceH: ​
     
    It was in their old suit found hanging in the attic closet?

    All jests aside, excellent news.

  12. 12.

    TriassicSands

    March 12, 2024 at 2:41 pm

    You guys, I think the GOP might not be any good at this — TaMara

    That’s true, but what matters is that they don’t have to be good at this or anything, because their supporters are both stupid and crazy, the average voter is inattentive, and the media frequently lend the Republicans all the help they need.

  13. 13.

    Baud

    March 12, 2024 at 2:41 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    “Is your name Hur?”

    “That’s what the transcript says on page 1.”

  14. 14.

    twbrandt

    March 12, 2024 at 2:41 pm

    @dmsilev: They keep this up and pretty soon we’ll be talking about Speaker Jeffries :)

  15. 15.

    Dangerman

    March 12, 2024 at 2:41 pm

    You have to remember a lie. Truth is instant recall. I think I learned that by Elementary School.

    These malevolent, malodorous (in the case of Trump, which Depends) motherfuckers (and, truthfully, I mean that as kindly as possible) need to back to Grade School.

  16. 16.

    Steeplejack

    March 12, 2024 at 2:42 pm

    @Baud:

    😹 Srsly.

  17. 17.

    Ramalama

    March 12, 2024 at 2:44 pm

    Would be swell if the media and members of congress pronounced Hur’s name like “Hurl” but without the L.

    You know with the extra breath required to take it over the Hurdle.

  18. 18.

    Craig

    March 12, 2024 at 2:44 pm

    From Rupar’s thread.

    “Wow — Rep. Hank Johnson to Hur: “You’re doing everything you can do to get President Trump reelected so that you can get appointed as a federal judge, or perhaps to another position in the Department of Justice. Isn’t that correct?”

  19. 19.

    Baud

    March 12, 2024 at 2:46 pm

    @Craig:

    Excellent.

  20. 20.

    Harrison Wesley

    March 12, 2024 at 2:46 pm

    @Steeplejack: Your description sounds like Woody Allen testifying to HUAC in The Front.

  21. 21.

    Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 2:48 pm

    @Dangerman:

    why would you subject innocent Elementary students to the presence of such toxic classmates?

  22. 22.

    TriassicSands

    March 12, 2024 at 2:52 pm

    @Dangerman: You have to remember a lie.

    Once again, the Republicans turn things on their head. They lie constantly, but they don’t have to remember their lies, because when caught they instantly fabricate a new lie, which the media present, often without question. We move from lie to lie and the vast majority of Republican voters simply don’t care or they choose to believe whatever lie is consistent with their delusions.

    I wish I had more confidence in the wider electorate, but the general inattention of most voters and the lack of commitment is always a problem. The focus on Biden’s age is a great example. Most voters didn’t bother to watch the SOTU address. If they had, they would have had an impossible time squaring what they saw with the idea that Biden has dementia. However, the millions of people who didn’t watch won’t have any reason to adapt their belief to reality.

  23. 23.

    Wapiti

    March 12, 2024 at 2:52 pm

    Maybe DoJ was offended at the mismatch between the transcripts and Hur’s report, and chose to burn Hur. But not with a public denouncement – that would be impolite. But since he’s no longer a DoJ employee, they release his transscripts.

  24. 24.

    Dangerman

    March 12, 2024 at 2:53 pm

    @Jay: why would you subject innocent Elementary students to the presence of such toxic classmates?

    Excellent point. We will have to build special facilities out in the Mojave (and we’ll play by their rules, i.e. fuck any EIR).

    No AC.

  25. 25.

    Sean

    March 12, 2024 at 2:54 pm

    More than a bit frustrating that media headlines aren’t “Hur Transcript Contradicts His Report.”  That seems to be the meat of the day’s events. He praised Biden’s “photographic memory” in the transcript and then in the report says he’s a doddering old man. Biden instantly recalled his son’s date of death while the report describes that he had to “do the math.” Everything else is preening. We had days of news cycles predicated on what was essentially a falsified report. That’s the story the majors should be running, but I guess we won’t get that.

  26. 26.

    RaflW

    March 12, 2024 at 2:54 pm

    @dmsilev: Wow. That’s a weird decision.
    One wonders if he’s realized he has to go into hiding from the MAGA cult. Not that Buck wasn’t 97% in alignment with them, but he’s apostate and those f*ers are escalating their terroristic threats against their own party members

    Unfortunately, Buck leaving makes the already vanishingly slim idea of a discharge petition to fund Ukraine even harder.

  27. 27.

    teezyskeezy

    March 12, 2024 at 2:56 pm

    Before declaring that the GOP has punched itself in the nuts, one should always check out the narrative over in the Right Wing Noise Machine.  Sometimes they DO actually punch themselves in that place, and it shows through even on their channels. However, just because a thing seems like a “fail” to those of us in the real world…one should always just check out what they are saying over in the bad places before declaring a PR victory. It could be a real panic moment over there on fox… or it could just be completely glossed over and tied up cute with a bow.  I mean, this is why Trump is even *competitive* right now…they have a media ecosystem completely at odds with real life…and sometimes even at odds with their own first person experience!

  28. 28.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 12, 2024 at 2:57 pm

    @twbrandt:

    pretty soon we’ll be talking about Speaker Jeffries

    ~~SHUTTER~~

    Not even in jest, twbrandt. Not. Even. In. Jest.

  29. 29.

    Anoniminous

    March 12, 2024 at 2:57 pm

    @Baud:

    “Polysyllabic latinate utterances comprising English symbology may have well been replicated upon a fibrous substance.”

  30. 30.

    Baud

    March 12, 2024 at 2:59 pm

    @teezyskeezy:

    Your giving the right wing way too much power. The most important thing is how we feel, not how they feel.

  31. 31.

    twbrandt

    March 12, 2024 at 3:00 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: what’s wrong with Speaker Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) that I’m missing?

  32. 32.

    cain

    March 12, 2024 at 3:00 pm

    I expect the Dems to bring the hammer. The GOP definitely are sad clowns – even Hur’s nonsense is not damning anybody. They are going to be spending a lot more money. So far, unable to damage him whatsoever.

    I’m not sure if Hur is going to make the successful jump to grifter at this point.

  33. 33.

    Kay

    March 12, 2024 at 3:00 pm

    Really disurbing to watch the clips. Hur is a liar. How long has he been at DOJ and in/regarding what else has he lied? They should review any work he did – this is not new or a one-off.

  34. 34.

    TaMara

    March 12, 2024 at 3:01 pm

    @TriassicSands: Here’s your pearls, clutch at will.

  35. 35.

    Kay

    March 12, 2024 at 3:01 pm

    I mean, it’s great that we caught the liar but how long did this liar work for the US? 

    Wow. This is a real black eye for his employer.

  36. 36.

    teezyskeezy

    March 12, 2024 at 3:02 pm

    @Baud: No, the most important thing is how *I* feel, not how *we* feel. ;-P

  37. 37.

    dmsilev

    March 12, 2024 at 3:05 pm

    @RaflW: It is weird. Usually people who leave mid-term have a good reason, another job or incipient indictment or an aggravated case of George Santositis, but this is just a raised middle finger towards what passes for the GOP Leadership.

  38. 38.

    Anoniminous

    March 12, 2024 at 3:05 pm

    @Kay:

    Given the hit job the FBI did on Hilary Clinton and the fact two points make a line … I’d say he’s par for the course at the DoJ.

  39. 39.

    TaMara

    March 12, 2024 at 3:06 pm

    @Baud: Thank you.

  40. 40.

    RaflW

    March 12, 2024 at 3:06 pm

    @dmsilev: Also, too, more chaos:
    Buck’s unexpected resignation before his term ends would fall in the window where Colorado requires the governor to set a special election to fill the vacancy for the rest of this year, potentially supercharging that race. State law says a special election cannot be scheduled less than 90 days before the Nov. 5 election — meaning it must occur by early August.

    —

    Gov. Polis should set the election for 91 days before the general, thus leaving the seat open as long as possible.

  41. 41.

    teezyskeezy

    March 12, 2024 at 3:06 pm

    @TaMara: You shouldn’t reward us doomers with *pearls*…what motivation is their for us to do better? :-}

  42. 42.

    Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 3:06 pm

    @twbrandt:

    as long as the ReThugs have a majority in the House, even if Speaker Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) is elected with a minority of ReThug votes, it’s just a trap.

  43. 43.

    Kay

    March 12, 2024 at 3:08 pm

    Did he think they wouldn’t read the transcript or does he just not care? What a wacko. Another one.

  44. 44.

    twbrandt

    March 12, 2024 at 3:09 pm

    @Jay: what I meant was that at the rate Repubs are leaving, we could see a Democratic majority in the House before November.

    It was just a poor joke, I guess.

    ETA: fix spelling

  45. 45.

    Kay

    March 12, 2024 at 3:11 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    I sure hope he didn’t work on anything….important. They’re reading the transcript to him and he’s still pretending it says what he said it did. Donald Trump has turned all of these people into crazy liars. It’s just no holds barred – they all lie, all the time.

  46. 46.

    Almost Retired

    March 12, 2024 at 3:12 pm

    My goodness, the timing for the Republican’s attempted amateur fitness for duty examination in absentia couldn’t have been worse for them – coming as it did a few days after Biden’s bravura and very-much-not-demented speech.  Ha ha fuckers.

  47. 47.

    trollhattan

    March 12, 2024 at 3:14 pm

    @Kay: Fun fact: Hur’s given last name is Smirnov.

    Drink!

  48. 48.

    Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 3:16 pm

    @twbrandt:

    you won’t. Most of the ReThugs quitting early, are MAGgAt’s that are just not MAGgat enough for the base.

    They arn’t going to be replaced in a special election or an appointment by a Democratic Party Member, they are going to be replaced by the looniest of loons.

    The Re Thugs from purple arn’t quitting, it’s the ReThugs from Blood Red.

  49. 49.

    Anoniminous

    March 12, 2024 at 3:16 pm

    But is Trump competitive?

    Ever since Trump’s surprising 2016 victory, falling backward into an Electoral College majority when he expected to lose, many Republicans, pundits and even some Democrats have treated Trump’s support as perpetually underestimated. But as Seth Masket and Julia Azari observed earlier this week, “Trump has never commanded a national majority, not in polls nor at the ballot box.” Neither he nor his campaign evince any interest in addressing his perpetually low ceiling. The party infrastructure is in tatters, with the Republican National Committee possibly putting itself on the hook for Trump’s legal bills. Abortion, its weakest issue in recent elections, remains a liability, as last week’s Alabama Supreme Court ruling against IVF demonstrated. Add to all that the consistent underperformances at the polls, and the alarm bells, for Republicans at least, go from muted to blaring.

    Trump’s single biggest asset is the archaic Electoral College. Thus we cannot be complacent. Neither should we be intimidated. We can win this election. We can even win big. As I’ve noted before Dobbs was a Black Swan Event and nobody knows or can predict its affect on the 2024 elections.

  50. 50.

    Kay

    March 12, 2024 at 3:18 pm

    @trollhattan:

    You wonder if they tell one another the truth. Was Hur like “ok, Jim, as you know the transcript is different than what I said and what was reported so we should probably….” OR is it more subtle, like they all realize it’s a pack of lies and no one says it out loud? It would be crazymaking. It’s a fantasy world.

  51. 51.

    TaMara

    March 12, 2024 at 3:18 pm

    How’d I miss this?:  Trump Lays Off RNC Staff

    hahahahaha

  52. 52.

    teezyskeezy

    March 12, 2024 at 3:18 pm

    @TaMara: The Right wing has a lot of power in the infosphere and often leverages their vast wealth to peel off crucial votes. I don’t really want to doom about it, but whether or not a GOP action is a self punch in the nuts does depend on how they get to spin it…and sometimes they don’t lose on their stupid actions.

  53. 53.

    JPL

    March 12, 2024 at 3:19 pm

    @Kay: Dean had him read parts out loud, and he said no you can.  She said no, I asked yo to read it.   You could see him choke.

  54. 54.

    ...now I try to be amused

    March 12, 2024 at 3:20 pm

    @TriassicSands:

    Once again, the Republicans turn things on their head. They lie constantly, but they don’t have to remember their lies, because when caught they instantly fabricate a new lie, which the media present, often without question. We move from lie to lie and the vast majority of Republican voters simply don’t care or they choose to believe whatever lie is consistent with their delusions.

    That kind of lie is more accurately called bullshit, as Harry Frankfurt defined it. They say what they would prefer the truth to be. They might even stumble over the truth from time to time, like a blind squirrel finding the nut.

  55. 55.

    Captain C

    March 12, 2024 at 3:21 pm

    @dmsilev: He’ll get his full pension, I believe, so he can afford to tell the looney caucus to go fuck themselves.

  56. 56.

    matt

    March 12, 2024 at 3:21 pm

    That’s the thing – it’s hard to get people who are good at what they do to participate in a super hierarchical fascist organization where everything hinges on loyalty. Of course once the fascists seize power that partially goes away. Only game in town.

  57. 57.

    Anoniminous

    March 12, 2024 at 3:23 pm

    @Kay: ​
     
    Since Little Ronnie RayGuns they’ve been lying and have gotten away with it. Why should March 12, 2024 be any different?

  58. 58.

    Captain C

    March 12, 2024 at 3:23 pm

    @Kay: Given the GQP of the last decade or two, and especially recently, it may not have occurred to any of them that someone would check their work.

  59. 59.

    Dave

    March 12, 2024 at 3:23 pm

    @Kay: The cowards answer is some mix of both but I strongly suspect it’s mor option 2 than option 1 and that it is likely it’s been steadily favoring option 2 over time.

  60. 60.

    Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 3:25 pm

    @Kay:

    You wonder if they tell one another the truth.

    They don’t. That would break the bubble and reality would intrude.

  61. 61.

    Princess

    March 12, 2024 at 3:26 pm

    The alarm bells should be blaring for the GoP but they don’t seem to be hearing them, I guess Buck just decided f— all y’all.

    Btw Betty Cracker, if you’re reading this, we miss you!! We hope you’re doing okay, and we’re all thinking about you.

  62. 62.

    teezyskeezy

    March 12, 2024 at 3:32 pm

    @matt: Well you see, that’s the advantage the shitties have in a fascist society. You don’t need to be very good, you just gotta be adequate enough to keep the machine barely chugging along. That’s good enough.

  63. 63.

    TaMara

    March 12, 2024 at 3:34 pm

    @dmsilev:

    @RaflW:

    I haven’t heard anything – but I wonder if he already has a big paying gig lined up? He’s as corrupt as any rethug – including doing his own criming. I can’t find the link, but he was manipulating votes to get the candidate they wanted to win the primary in 2020.

  64. 64.

    JPL

    March 12, 2024 at 3:34 pm

    @Princess: this is OT   Did Ms Cracker  ever mention what happened?

  65. 65.

    trollhattan

    March 12, 2024 at 3:34 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    True, Nixon eventually did not get away with it but Ronny did and when he almost got caught, went with “I don’t remember” and skated free.

    Hur’s nasty dagger of a report reminds me more than anything of Barr’s Mueller Report letter which, was basically a lie and yet, worked. I’m afraid that the Hur thing has done its damage and is not reversible.

  66. 66.

    BC in Illinois

    March 12, 2024 at 3:36 pm

    @RaflW:

    Buck’s unexpected resignation before his term ends would fall in the window where Colorado requires the governor to set a special election to fill the vacancy for the rest of this year, potentially supercharging that race. State law says a special election cannot be scheduled less than 90 days before the Nov. 5 election — meaning it must occur by early August.

    And I have seen comments indicating that it would be difficult — or impossible — or illegal — for Lauren Boebert to run for a congressional district not her own, without resigning her present seat in Congress. Lawyers may be required

    + + +

    Added: The issue seems to be that you can be in two districts consecutively, but not in two districts concurrently.

  67. 67.

    Anoniminous

    March 12, 2024 at 3:36 pm

    @…now I try to be amused: ​
     
    The ongoing and omnipresent union of Frankfurt and Dunning-Kruger in American Discourse is tiresome. If I didn’t know that was the historic norm I’d be disheartened. Since I know it is I shrug and keep moving.

  68. 68.

    ...now I try to be amused

    March 12, 2024 at 3:37 pm

    @trollhattan: Perhaps the best we can do is destroy Hur pour encourager les autres. These people don’t fear enough.

  69. 69.

    hueyplong

    March 12, 2024 at 3:41 pm

    If Jeffries became speaker, even with a 2-3 seat minority, he’d bring Ukraine aid up for a vote and it would pass.

  70. 70.

    teezyskeezy

    March 12, 2024 at 3:42 pm

    @TaMara: Maybe he’s just tired of the threats and swattings from the MAGAts he thought he was good with once upon a time.

  71. 71.

    John Revolta

    March 12, 2024 at 3:43 pm

    Hur: “Dur”.

  72. 72.

    TaMara

    March 12, 2024 at 3:45 pm

    @teezyskeezy: He used to be my rep – I can’t bring myself to think anything but that it is grift for his sudden departure.

    I’d like to be more generous, but I’ve seen his body of work, including demeaning a rape victim while DA. So he can rot in hell while being threatened and swatted daily.

  73. 73.

    teezyskeezy

    March 12, 2024 at 3:46 pm

    @Baud: The Right has a lot of power in the infosphere. If they didn’t, we wouldn’t be facing down what we are facing down. This is not doomerism to say so. It’s just a conversation.

  74. 74.

    Betty

    March 12, 2024 at 3:47 pm

    Boston Globe headline is that Hur stands by his report questioning Biden’s memory. Completely missing how Democrats discredited that aspect of the report.

  75. 75.

    teezyskeezy

    March 12, 2024 at 3:47 pm

    @TaMara: Hey, we have common ground on not expending any sympathy for him. That’s one thing at least!

  76. 76.

    TaMara

    March 12, 2024 at 3:49 pm

    @Betty: To be fair – that’s a good way to get folks who want to feel vindicated to actually read the article.

    NOW, if they wait until paragraph 10 to state it’s all lies, then that is criminal.

  77. 77.

    unrelatedwaffle

    March 12, 2024 at 3:50 pm

    How utterly disgusting to try to gotcha him on the date of his son’s death. I spit on the ground in front of them like my Romanian Jewish ancestors.

  78. 78.

    Kay

    March 12, 2024 at 3:52 pm

    @JPL:

    and he said no you can

    Lol. Kids do that. He’s not even a grown up!

  79. 79.

    Betty

    March 12, 2024 at 3:53 pm

    @Kay: I believe he was a protege of Rosenberg’s. That ought to help explain his perspective.

  80. 80.

    Ken

    March 12, 2024 at 3:54 pm

    @BC in Illinois: The issue seems to be that you can be in two districts consecutively, but not in two districts concurrently.

    One of those things where most people say “well, duh“, yet Republican politicians say “Congress never bothered to make that a law…”  You know, like the emoluments clause, or the 14th amendment.

  81. 81.

    HumboldtBlue

    March 12, 2024 at 3:54 pm

    Ted Lieu’s questioning is worth a watch.

  82. 82.

    Chief Oshkosh

    March 12, 2024 at 3:57 pm

    @Kay: I haven’t read the transcript or followed the testimony. Which parts were lies? Did Hur lie in the actual report? If so, what are the laws/rules about lying in a DOJ report/finding? Should DOJ be investigating Hur?

  83. 83.

    JPL

    March 12, 2024 at 3:58 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: He was good also.

  84. 84.

    Betty

    March 12, 2024 at 3:59 pm

    @trollhattan: One of the Dems in the hearing brought up Barr’s action regarding the Mueller Report and had Hur contrast it with the way Garland has handled this report.

  85. 85.

    Baud

    March 12, 2024 at 4:00 pm

    @teezyskeezy:

    I agree they have a lot of power. What you said initially as that our stance depends on how they are reacting.  I don’t agree with that.

  86. 86.

    TBone

    March 12, 2024 at 4:00 pm

    The real “deep state” problem:

    Shocking Online Manifesto Reveals Project 2025’s Link to a Coordinated ‘Christian Nationalism Project’

    …Despite this hurricane of attempted deflection, the Christian Nationalism promoted by Wolfe is extreme, not mainstream, as evidenced not only by Przybyla’s excellent article, but also by a shocking online manifesto found by the Beacon, which identifies Wolfe as an editor. We have included screenshots of the complete manifesto in the Appendix to this article. We have also archived the manifesto (which calls itself a “draft”) here.

    https://buckscountybeacon.com/2024/03/shocking-online-manifesto-reveals-project-2025s-link-to-a-coordinated-christian-nationalism-project/

  87. 87.

    Chris

    March 12, 2024 at 4:03 pm

    @Kay:

    How would they even know what the truth is at this point?

  88. 88.

    trollhattan

    March 12, 2024 at 4:04 pm

    @Betty: Nice, good to hear!

    Is our Dems learning? :-)

  89. 89.

    cain

    March 12, 2024 at 4:06 pm

    @TaMara: It’s gonna be a shit show over there – laying off all those people means that you’ve also lost a ton of organizational memory. RNC is going to be floundering around trying to figure out how to do a bunch stuff.

    Let confusion reign!

  90. 90.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    March 12, 2024 at 4:07 pm

    @cain: I predict a lot of high-priced consultants will take over

  91. 91.

    teezyskeezy

    March 12, 2024 at 4:08 pm

    @Baud: Well now I see what you are saying. That makes sense, but don’t we need two prongs running in parallel? One is the high value “keeping the base” stance, which should be number one and f- the centrist “realists” who would suggest abandoning the dem base. That’s what almost everyone in our coalition values. But the other prong should be to remember we need at least some of the rando “undecideds” and remember they probably aren’t seeing anything close to the same reality we are. They don’t live on planet earth or planet MAGA I think sometimes.

  92. 92.

    cain

    March 12, 2024 at 4:09 pm

    @Princess: The loyalty test is going to be even more intense with the RNC take over. If you dont show complete loyalty to the King George, it’s gonna get bad for you.

    I suspect part of leaving congress is also stuff like this.

  93. 93.

    cain

    March 12, 2024 at 4:09 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Can’t be too high because there is a lot of Trump legal bills to pay.

  94. 94.

    teezyskeezy

    March 12, 2024 at 4:10 pm

    @cain: Yes, this is my schadenfreude face relishing the shit show incoming over there. I just love love love when know it all managers come in and “clean house” and f- themselves over. However, if Trump wins in the fall and fucks our country over in the same way, I will not be happy…but I will look to that silver lining when they realize too late what they’ve done. We still lose but at least they do too!

  95. 95.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 12, 2024 at 4:11 pm

    @twbrandt:

    Sorry, I thought you were talking about Jim Jeffries, who sets my teeth on edge every time he shows up. Hakeem, of course, would be great, but I’d like him to have a good solid majority.

    ETA: SORRY, MY BAD.  It’s Jim Jordan, not Jim Jeffries. I always screw up that name.

  96. 96.

    Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 4:11 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    TIFG grifters not “high priced consultants”.

    Billionaires are going to quickly find out that all donations are “recurring donations”,…….

  97. 97.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    March 12, 2024 at 4:13 pm

    @cain:@Princess:

    The loyalty test is going to be even more intense with the RNC take over. If you dont show complete loyalty to the King George, it’s gonna get bad for you.  I suspect part of leaving congress is also stuff like this.

    That’s why I’m not celebrating, despite the chaos. It isn’t good that he’s now completely taken over the party. Its not good at all. There was precious little backbone on their side before. Now, there be none. Before, there was a chance if he lost in November, the GOP could find a way back to being just awful. Now, they won’t. Anyone not a brownshirt is out.

  98. 98.

    teezyskeezy

    March 12, 2024 at 4:17 pm

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: Well, it creates a stark dichotomy.  Either the GOP is completely destroyed or destroys us completely. One or the other is coming.  At least, if we make it, they will be shrunk and twisted into dust.

  99. 99.

    trollhattan

    March 12, 2024 at 4:21 pm

    @cain:

    “Listen up people, you have two new leaders and they’re in charge of everything until November, understand? Now give a big RNC welcome to Trivanka Ump and Kared Bushner!”

  100. 100.

    Princess

    March 12, 2024 at 4:22 pm

    @JPL: Someone may have already replied with more info but the last thing I saw, it was uncertain what had happened/was happening. A commenter mentioned that Betty hadn’t commented herself in a day or so which is why I wrote — imagining a scenario in which she’s not up for chatting but might like to know she’s in our thoughts.

  101. 101.

    Frankensteinbeck

    March 12, 2024 at 4:23 pm

    @Kay:

    You wonder if they tell one another the truth.

    The usual way people behave in these situations is that they tell each other their preferred fantasy until they forget it’s made up.  That happens really fast thanks to rationalization and cognitive dissonance.  You see it all the time in the conservative base.

    Heck, it’s pretty much how ‘the Narrative’ works in any population.

  102. 102.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    March 12, 2024 at 4:25 pm

    Speaking of Rs not being good at things:

    Joshua J. Friedman

    @joshuajfriedman.com

    Follow

    NEW: Trump’s attorneys notify Judge Merchan that they intend to rely on an advice-of-counsel defense at Trump’s NY criminal trial—but that this will not be a “formal” defense, and therefore they do not intend to waive attorney-client privilege, as is usually required.

  103. 103.

    zhena gogolia

    March 12, 2024 at 4:27 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: There used to be a Jim Jeffries who was some kind of centrist mushmouth.

  104. 104.

    hueyplong

    March 12, 2024 at 4:27 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: The things they call “lawyering,” insult the intelligence.

  105. 105.

    Paul in KY

    March 12, 2024 at 4:29 pm

    @Kay: I think it’s the ‘subtle’ crazy one.

  106. 106.

    Dan B

    March 12, 2024 at 4:31 pm

    @TBone: Project 2025 is terrifying.  I assume my partner and I would be locked up or worse.  American Taliban.

  107. 107.

    JPL

    March 12, 2024 at 4:32 pm

    @Princess: Thanks.   The last I saw was when she said she was in the emergency room.

    We are all thinking of her.    Just in case she is reading us, let I mention that she is counted on to make the butter lamb.

  108. 108.

    JPL

    March 12, 2024 at 4:33 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:  Is there a half advice of counsel?   I don’t think so and I’m not even a lawyer.

  109. 109.

    Jackie

    March 12, 2024 at 4:35 pm

    @dmsilev: Gov Polis, D, has to hold the special election 90 days before the GE, but might slow walk it as much as possible to keep the House GQP majority to as minimum a lead as possible.

    This also screws up Boebert – as she can only represent one congressional district at any time. The winner of the special election will most likely have the edge going into the GE.

    Ken Buck won’t endorse anyone for the special – he sounded fed up to “here” with his soon to be former congressional party members.

    Johnson probably thinks he’s in a horrible nightmare and can’t wake up lol

  110. 110.

    Harrison Wesley

    March 12, 2024 at 4:35 pm

    @JPL: Sounds more like half-assed counsel.

  111. 111.

    Ironcity

    March 12, 2024 at 4:35 pm

    @cain: I doubt that was an accident.  The chaos will be a feature, not a bug.

  112. 112.

    rikyrah

    March 12, 2024 at 4:37 pm

    @dmsilev:

    2 votes..LOL

  113. 113.

    MisterForkbeard

    March 12, 2024 at 4:38 pm

    @Chief Oshkosh: Hur basically misrepresented a LOT in his report. He excluded a bunch of things were Biden had an excellent memory (and even complimented him on it), and Biden was on it and responsive. But he left that out of the report, and then took other items severely out of context to imply that Biden was a demented, failing old man.

    It was fairly explicit and obvious, too.

  114. 114.

    Paul in KY

    March 12, 2024 at 4:40 pm

    @TBone: Creepy and crazy. Ick.

  115. 115.

    MisterForkbeard

    March 12, 2024 at 4:40 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: That’s not how this works. That’s not how any of this works!

  116. 116.

    hitchhiker

    March 12, 2024 at 4:41 pm

    @TaMara: Is he likely at all to be a No Labels candidate?

  117. 117.

    Jackie

    March 12, 2024 at 4:42 pm

    @twbrandt: Jeffries would inherit a very angry do nothing caucus from the GQP side – which could transfer to being the Dems FAULT that nothing’s getting done to normies at election time, who wouldn’t be paying attention to the insider baseball aspects.

  118. 118.

    Gremcat

    March 12, 2024 at 4:43 pm

    @dmsilev: Aftern hearing Buck talking to Dana Bash on CNN I think that he may be thinking about running for President on the No Labels or maybe the libertarian ticket.

    He definitely claimed he wanted a hand in picking better candidate’s for this election cycle.  I think screwing Boboert from getting his seat will be just icing on the cake.

  119. 119.

    NotMax

    March 12, 2024 at 4:51 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor

    Do you like fruit, judge? ‘Cause we intend to cherry pick the data and communications so as to only enter any or selected parts of any that we deem favorable to us.

  120. 120.

    rikyrah

    March 12, 2024 at 4:51 pm

    @Kay:

    Did he think they wouldn’t read the transcript or does he just not care? What a wacko. Another one.

     

    Did not care

  121. 121.

    Chief Oshkosh

    March 12, 2024 at 4:56 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: Thanks. So…I assume Hur will face no consequences for this behavior?

  122. 122.

    NotMax

    March 12, 2024 at 4:58 pm

    Will say it again.

    Bent Hur.

  123. 123.

    Jeffro

    March 12, 2024 at 4:59 pm

    @Kay:Donald Trump has turned all of these people into crazy liars. It’s just no holds barred – they all lie, all the time.

    this right here, above all else

    they’ve just gone right off the edge

  124. 124.

    Uncle Cosmo

    March 12, 2024 at 5:01 pm

    @twbrandt: ​It was just a poor joke, I guess.

    Pay no attention to our resident Canucklehead, who may have started out in life below the 49th parallel (if IIUC) but since his migration north has forgotten nearly everything he might once have known about how the US government works. For example:

    @Jay: ​as long as the ReThugs have a majority in the House, even if Speaker Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) is elected with a minority of ReThug votes, it’s just a trap.

    Trap?? Two words 4U: “Bull” and “shit.” Among other things, a Speaker Jeffries would allow bills providing aid to Ukraine to reach the House floor for a vote. It’s common knowledge that enough GOP Reps would vote for such bills to pass them – the only reason they haven’t is that the current Preacher of the House, “Bastard”** Johnson, won’t let them come to the floor. IMHO a Speaker Jeffries would justify his elevation with that One Feared*** Trick.

    ** My preferred prononuciation of “Pastor” – don’t like it, sue me.
    *** Feared by Empty Greene and the rest of the FreeDumb Caulkus.
    Slava Ukraini!

  125. 125.

    Brachiator

    March 12, 2024 at 5:02 pm

    GOP Rep. Bishop is upset that the full interview transcript was released, which shows Republican counsel Robert Hur praising President Biden’s “photographic” memory and how “well” he remembered things during their interview

    I am traveling , in infrequent flyer mode and missed all this. This is great. I want to see Biden slap Trump down hard. Trump can’t even remember all the women he has insulted.

  126. 126.

    Miss Bianca

    March 12, 2024 at 5:03 pm

    @RaflW: heh, indeed.

  127. 127.

    Citizen Alan

    March 12, 2024 at 5:03 pm

    @Chief Oshkosh:  I think that if the election goes favorably for his team, he anticipates a federal judgeship.

  128. 128.

    Skippy-san

    March 12, 2024 at 5:03 pm

    @Gremcat: I thought exactly the same thing.

  129. 129.

    Hoodie

    March 12, 2024 at 5:12 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: @cain:  All they need to know how to do is write checks to Trump’s lawyers and to Trump-owned venues.

  130. 130.

    TBone

    March 12, 2024 at 5:14 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: they’ll never stop stepping on rakes and slamming themselves.  Frivolous, like kryptonite, is a weakling’s game.  It is to laugh!

  131. 131.

    Betty

    March 12, 2024 at 5:16 pm

    And now the Washington Post chimes in with a headline saying Hur claims he did not exonerate Biden. Again no indication that Hur was discredited when confronted with the transcript of the Biden interview.

  132. 132.

    Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 5:16 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    Under the ReThug rules, it just takes one vote to unseat the Speaker.

    And you guys thought that Moses, McHenry and McCarthy couldn’t/can’t get anything done.

    Remember the Border Bill you shit head, or have the squirrels in your head run out of peanuts?

    King Orangemandious has said “NO AID FOR UKRAINE.”

  133. 133.

    Hoppie

    March 12, 2024 at 5:18 pm

    I spent my lunch looking over some of the coverage of the Hur hearings. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the GOP just hit themselves in the nuts again.

    At least that required a particularly precise aim, ahem….

  134. 134.

    frosty

    March 12, 2024 at 5:20 pm

    @Jay: ​
     OTOH despite the Orange One, my R Congressman has voted 100% for Ukraine. I looked it up. I bet he’s not the only one who would defy TFG and support the bill to send them ammo.

  135. 135.

    Eyeroller

    March 12, 2024 at 5:21 pm

    I was hoping somebody would ask Hur whether he got his MD before or after his law degree, and when he completed his residency in neurology, but I suppose that would have been too snarky for the circumstances.

  136. 136.

    MisterForkbeard

    March 12, 2024 at 5:22 pm

    @Chief Oshkosh: He’s getting some media play as being a republican operative. A Dem Rep openly said he was angling for a judgeship in a future Trump presidency.

    Not that it’ll hurt him, and much of the media doesn’t want to admit that yet another Republican perverted the justice department to sabotage Democrats. Ken Dilanian is out there “both sidesing” it as “Hur’s report was inconvenient to both sides”.

    Ken is also ignoring that Hur left the “inconvenient to Republicans” part out of his report and Dems had to fish it up from the transcript… and that the parts inconvenient to Dems were largely fabricated and depended on no one really reading the transcripts.

  137. 137.

    jimmiraybob

    March 12, 2024 at 5:26 pm

    Apparently the Republicans are whining that Katie Britt is getting the Sarah Palin treatment.  Why the hell would anybody want to bring that up?  Why the hell would anybody want to brand Britt as Palin 2.0?  Can you really see Russia from Alabama?

    But, since we’re here ……….

  138. 138.

    Hoodie

    March 12, 2024 at 5:28 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I’m sure the judge got a laugh out of that.  Not sure how you raise advice of counsel defense if you don’t present evidence as to what Trump told his lawyers and their response to that that constituted the advice.  This happens in any case where you introduce an opinion of counsel as a defense.   For example, if you introduce a noninfringement opinion in a patent infringement case in order avoid a charge of willful infringement, the privileged is waived at least to the extent of discussions of the basis for the opinion because part of the determination is whether the opinion had a valid basis and whether the client reasonably relied on the advice.

  139. 139.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 12, 2024 at 5:30 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    Maybe I’m conflating him with him.

    Also, isn’t there a Jeff Jordan?

  140. 140.

    HumboldtBlue

    March 12, 2024 at 5:31 pm

    Raskin on Hur hearing: ‘We’re trying to play memory detectives

  141. 141.

    Tony Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    @Betty:

    That exactly what the FTF Guardian headline says, and if you click on it’s just quotes from Hur insisting the transcripts support his version of events. I’m sure there’s some ‘balance’ deep down in the reporting, but it’s nowhere a casual reader might stumble across it.

    It’s almost like there’s a preferred narrative all the way across the Liberal Media, and it’s not one that wants to admit that their breathless reportage on Old Man Biden’s geriatric fumbles were based on lies they knew they were being told.

  142. 142.

    Manyakitty

    March 12, 2024 at 5:34 pm

    @RaflW: maybe he’ll sign it before he leaves and help get it done?

  143. 143.

    Old School

    March 12, 2024 at 5:35 pm

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has recently approached #Jets QB Aaron Rodgers and Jesse "The Body" Ventura about serving as his running mate on an independent presidential ticket, and both have welcomed the overtures, per the @nytimes. https://t.co/kLe8FfklnB— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 12, 2024

  144. 144.

    cain

    March 12, 2024 at 5:37 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: We should thank the House GOP for bringing Hur in so that we can show how much of an asshole he is and how much of an asshole they are. This completely fucked them over.

    Couple this and a SOTU where it wasn’t sleepy joe, but dark brandon that showed up – nobody is going to be able even take pieces of that SOTU for propaganda purposes. Anybody looking at SOTU is going to know that he doesn’t have dementia

    P.S. Fuck the NYT.

  145. 145.

    MisterForkbeard

    March 12, 2024 at 5:38 pm

    @Old School: Yeah, that sounds about right.

  146. 146.

    Uncle Cosmo

    March 12, 2024 at 5:38 pm

    @Jay: ​Under the ReThug rules, it just takes one vote to unseat the Speaker.

    No it doesn’t – it takes one vote to move that the Speaker’s chair be vacated. (That’s why it’s called a “Move to Vacate.”) Then they vote on the motion. If the motion fails, the current Speaker stays Speaker.

    As I pointed out, you seem to know fuck-all about the US Government.

    If Jeffries were to become Speaker with the help of a few GOP votes, why would those same Reps not vote to keep him there at least long enough to bring a vote on Ukraine aid bills they want to vote “aye” on?

    Who’s the shithead here, Canucklehead?

  147. 147.

    TBone

    March 12, 2024 at 5:44 pm

    @Dan B: the Xtian Dominionist tentacles that reach into our highest echelons of power, like Rasputin times 10,000, are truly frightening.  As displayed by all the psycho religiocrazies in the Courts, in every branch of government except the White House, at the “think tanks,” lobby mills, the list is so long it’s hard to contemplate.  Sheriffs and police, universities, elementary schools, it’s everywhere.  The Bucks County Beacon article’s reporter builds on the work of that courageous Politico reporter and is truly heroic.  This shit goes all the way up the chain of command.  But not on our side.

  148. 148.

    TBone

    March 12, 2024 at 5:48 pm

    @Paul in KY: it’s behemoth.

  149. 149.

    Miss Bianca

    March 12, 2024 at 5:49 pm

    @Gremcat: Well, I would like to believe that Buck isn’t stupid enough to try a 3rd party POTUS run, considering  that he got his ass handed to him handily when he ran for Governor a few years back, but he’s certainly egotistical enough for it.

    If he does, it would probably be for the spiteful pleasure of siphoning off votes from the GOP. Which would be a spiteful pleasure for me, as well.

  150. 150.

    catclub

    March 12, 2024 at 5:50 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: It took me a while to remember that the NY criminal trial is the hush money trial. Crimes done before he was president.

  151. 151.

    Doc Sardonic

    March 12, 2024 at 5:51 pm

    @Old School: Does anybody even remember who or what the fuck Jesse “The Body” Ventura is/was. Somebody needs to wrap a tight coat around RFK Jr, and get him to a ‘resort’ for a rest, before he runs with scissors and injures himself.

  152. 152.

    Sanjeevs

    March 12, 2024 at 5:52 pm

    And Garland appointef this fucker. A registered Republican, we now learn.

    Not the first time Garland ratfucked us, and it won’t be the last.

  153. 153.

    moops

    March 12, 2024 at 5:52 pm

    With the Trump takeover of the RNC, now, the entire party dies when Trump dies.

  154. 154.

    Doc Sardonic

    March 12, 2024 at 5:54 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Narrator: Buck is that stupid.

  155. 155.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    March 12, 2024 at 5:56 pm

    @catclub: It’s really hard to keep the various trials straight.

  156. 156.

    Harrison Wesley

    March 12, 2024 at 5:56 pm

    @Doc Sardonic: Ventura is an ex-governor. (MN? Don’t remember.) Also pro wrestler and action-movie guy.

  157. 157.

    Doc Sardonic

    March 12, 2024 at 5:57 pm

    @moops: No then Princess Ivanka becomes Queen, after Adderall Jr and The Stupid one chiv each other.

  158. 158.

    Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

    March 12, 2024 at 6:00 pm

    You guys, I think the GOP might not be any good at this — TaMara

    Nominated for a rotating tag!

  159. 159.

    Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 6:01 pm

    @frosty:

    the Orange One had not given the order. He did today.

  160. 160.

    Steeplejack

    March 12, 2024 at 6:03 pm

    I hope that if Hur ever does get nominated for a federal judgeship or other office there is enough of a Democratic minority in the Senate to stonewall him. Or are they all done by simple majority now? (Thanks, Mitch!)

  161. 161.

    Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 6:04 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    I think your Green Lantern needs a good cleaning, it’s clogged up with soot and mouse turds.

  162. 162.

    MattF

    March 12, 2024 at 6:04 pm

    @Doc Sardonic: Evidence that RFK Jr is more of a danger to Trump than to Biden. In terms of actual policy the choice is a no-brainer— someone who likes Biden’s policy better than Trump’s isn’t going to be an RFK fan. In terms of vibes, RFK Jr is a chaos candidate, like Trump, unlike Biden.

  163. 163.

    Jackie

    March 12, 2024 at 6:06 pm

    @Old School: 😂🤣😂

    We know Aaron Rogers is wackadoodal; has Ventura’s pro wrestling career afflicted his brain?

    WHO – outside of QAnon  circles would vote for either ticket?

  164. 164.

    Ruckus

    March 12, 2024 at 6:07 pm

    @dmsilev:

    I’m pretty sure the number of nihilistic preening assholes in the GOP Caucus is well above two.

    Now that’s not very nice.

    True of course but still…….. Also – I’m absolutely sure…..

  165. 165.

    Baud

    March 12, 2024 at 6:10 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Simple majority.

  166. 166.

    Miki

    March 12, 2024 at 6:10 pm

    @Doc Sardonic: I’m a Minnesotan, so I know and remember. His term was mostly not memorable except for his whiney announcement he wasn’t going to run again.

    Occasionally he shows up to weigh in on something inconsequential, kind of like smegma.

  167. 167.

    Steeplejack

    March 12, 2024 at 6:13 pm

    @Baud:

    😾

  168. 168.

    WaterGirl

    March 12, 2024 at 6:14 pm

    @JPL:  I think Betty is a pretty private person, so maybe it’s best not to inquire?

    Betty Cracker will share whatever she wants to share.

    @Princess:  I’m sure she will appreciate that you let her know that many of us are thinking of her!

  169. 169.

    Baud

    March 12, 2024 at 6:15 pm

    @Tony Jay:

    “The People choose Pravda.”

  170. 170.

    Baud

    March 12, 2024 at 6:16 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I don’t care if she shares, but she initially posted and hasn’t for a couple of days, so I’m starting to worry.

  171. 171.

    frosty

    March 12, 2024 at 6:18 pm

    @Jay: I’ll be stupid and believe he’ll stand with Ukraine. I better give him another call.

  172. 172.

    Doc Sardonic

    March 12, 2024 at 6:20 pm

    @Baud: You and me both…..

    Baud 2024

  173. 173.

    Eyeroller

    March 12, 2024 at 6:22 pm

    @Baud: ​Last I saw she was in the hospital. I assume she was admitted after going to the ER but I don’t know for certain since I didn’t see the post about going to the ER, so don’t know whether it’s one incident or she had to go back to the ER. I am worried since unexplained (at the time) bleeding in a person her age seems serious.

  174. 174.

    WaterGirl

    March 12, 2024 at 6:22 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: Maybe dial back the personal attacks and stick with rebutting what you disagree with?

  175. 175.

    Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 6:22 pm

    @frosty:

    He might, he might not, but will Moses stand up to SFB?

  176. 176.

    Gretchen

    March 12, 2024 at 6:23 pm

    My favorite part was when Swallwell wondered if this report was an attempt to curry favor with Trump in an attempt to get a federal judgeship or other DOJ appointment in a 2nd Trump administration, and asked if Hur would commit to refusing any such appointment. Of course Hur refused to say that.

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    WaterGirl

    March 12, 2024 at 6:24 pm

    @Baud: Betty wrote to the front pagers today, maybe it will help to know that?

  178. 178.

    cain

    March 12, 2024 at 6:25 pm

    @WaterGirl: before or after a cosmopolitan?

  179. 179.

    Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 6:25 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    that’s good news, we all miss her and wish her well.

  180. 180.

    zhena gogolia

    March 12, 2024 at 6:29 pm

    @Baud: I’m a little worried, but she clearly doesn’t want to share the whole story, so I’m just assuming she’s under good care. I think she knows we all love her.

  181. 181.

    Baud

    March 12, 2024 at 6:30 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Yes it does. Thanks.

  182. 182.

    zhena gogolia

    March 12, 2024 at 6:30 pm

    @WaterGirl: Oh, thanks!

    I know if I were in the hospital or just out of the hospital, I wouldn’t want to be reminded of any duties that awaited me.

  183. 183.

    Peke Daddy

    March 12, 2024 at 6:31 pm

    Just remember: If you’re over the target and taking flak from both sides, it means you’re being shot to pieces.

  184. 184.

    Gretchen

    March 12, 2024 at 6:31 pm

    @Kay: Hur was involved in the firing of Andy McCabe the day before he was set to retire and start collecting his pension. This was before Garland chose him as special counsel. He was known partisan scum before this case.

  185. 185.

    lowtechcyclist

    March 12, 2024 at 6:32 pm

    @WaterGirl: ​
     

    Yes, very glad to hear that. Whatever health issues she’s having, I hope she’s taking care of herself as best she can, and that she’s getting good medical care and that Bill is waiting on her, hand and foot. We miss her, but we can manage without her while she gets through this.

  186. 186.

    Dan B

    March 12, 2024 at 6:34 pm

    @TBone: And there’s legislation introduced in Missouri to make it a felony for any teacher to provide assistance to a trans student and to label the teacher as a sex offender.  Christian Dominionism is cruel.

  187. 187.

    evodevo

    March 12, 2024 at 6:35 pm

    @Jackie: Unless something has changed in the last few years, Ole Jesse was an out and proud atheist back in the day.  Not sure RFK’s crowd would be cool with that…

  188. 188.

    Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 6:37 pm

    @evodevo:

    RFK’s crowd is QAnon.

  189. 189.

    WaterGirl

    March 12, 2024 at 6:46 pm

    @Gretchen: Hur is a partisan piece of shit.

  190. 190.

    Tony Jay

    March 12, 2024 at 6:47 pm

    @Baud:

    “No, Comrade. The People choose Prada.”

  191. 191.

    moops

    March 12, 2024 at 6:47 pm

    It is funny that Hur might expect Trump to reward his service.   He’s not a very bright person.

  192. 192.

    WaterGirl

    March 12, 2024 at 6:50 pm

    @lowtechcyclist:

     I hope she’s taking care of herself as best she can, and that she’s getting good medical care and that Bill is waiting on her, hand and foot.

    Are you sure you didn’t peek at the message Betty sent to us?  Because all of those things are true.

  193. 193.

    WaterGirl

    March 12, 2024 at 6:51 pm

    @moops: HUR apparently hasn’t been paying attention in class these past 8 years.

    *autocorrect likes to change Hur to Our.

  194. 194.

    Gremcat

    March 12, 2024 at 6:55 pm

    The more the republicans try to create a narrative about Biden, it ends up backfiring on them. The latest impeachment witch hunt is about how he is trying to enrich himself and the transcript revealed that he gave $1.1 million to charity after his term as VP from his book sales.  He was so humble describing how he always wanted be able to give $1 million to charity and was finally able to do it.  The contrast between him and TFG was amazing.

  195. 195.

    Manyakitty

    March 12, 2024 at 6:56 pm

    @WaterGirl: glad to hear. Thank you.

  196. 196.

    frosty

    March 12, 2024 at 6:57 pm

    @Jay: No, the Speaker is a coward.  I’m trying to get my guy to vote for the discharge petition.

  197. 197.

    frosty

    March 12, 2024 at 6:59 pm

    @WaterGirl: Thank you. I was ready to say the same thing.

  198. 198.

    WaterGirl

    March 12, 2024 at 7:10 pm

    @frosty: Straight out of Cole’s comment policy:

    We’re not going to put up with personal attacks beyond a joking nature, nor will we tolerate targeted harassment of commenters. Take your shit somewhere else.

  199. 199.

    JPL

    March 12, 2024 at 7:12 pm

    @WaterGirl: Thanks.  Some of my inquiry is because I was concerned that I missed something.

  200. 200.

    Geminid

    March 12, 2024 at 7:52 pm

    @Jackie: That is a very interesting angle, that Boebert can’t keep her seat and run in the 4th CD special election. That’s likely one reason Buck’s resigning early. And he’s probably very ready to get away from that toxic caucus.

    I bet Boebert will keep her 3rd CD seat. Boebert won’t win the special election,and right now her job is the best she ever had and likely ever will have. Most former Reps can land on their feet, but Boebert is unusally deficient in experience and intellect for a U.S. Representative.

    I’ve heard Boebert interviewed, with Sebastian Gorka lobbing easy pitches. What a motormouth! The broadcaster that hires Boebert sure won’t have to worry about dead air. But they won’t put her in any time slot where they have much of an audience because she’ll chase them away. Boebert may have to scramble just to make a living. There’s no telling where she’ll land.

    Now I’m thinking of a FlexTape ad, where Boebert’s babbling away and that manic FlexTape guy walks up to her, slaps a piece of FlexTape over her mouth and delivers his spiel. It’ll go viral!

  201. 201.

    Melancholy Jaques

    March 12, 2024 at 7:55 pm

    @Jackie:

    There is no shortage of stupid American voters.

  202. 202.

    RaflW

    March 12, 2024 at 11:05 pm

    @teezyskeezy: Late getting back to this, I was in the car a lot today and can say: Unfortunately, one has to listen to Nice Polite Republicans on the radio, too, because they bought about 85% of the GOP line and soft-peddled that the transcript often refuted Hur’s report and statements today.

    Also, the host introduced the politics reporter, said that she had been reading through the 250-some pages of transcript and add libbed “I hope you didn’t read it all” (har har) and she sounded kinda miffed as she said “I did read it all.” At least one of these people thinks doing a job well matters.

  203. 203.

    Ruckus

    March 12, 2024 at 11:18 pm

    TaMara

    I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the GOP just hit themselves in the nuts again.

    They do seem to enjoy it. Maybe we should buy them a large meat cutter’s mallet. Steel, with the meat tenderizer points on both faces. Make it really worth the effort.

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