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And if you don’t know what that means, well feel blessed, ,you didn’t open up twitter after a disastrous Nuggets game last night (I DO NOT want to talk about it, tyvm) to find MTG had her ass handed to her.

“I think your fake eyelashes are messing up what you’re reading,” Greene said. An uproar ensued, with Committee chair James Comer (R-Ky.) calling for order, and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) demanding the committee “take down” Greene’s words, essentially reprimanding her for insulting another lawmaker.

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Comer soon suspended the hearing for several minutes so lawmakers could confer with their parliamentary experts, and Greene agreed to “strike” her words, but she refused to apologize, and then she and Ocasio-Cortez resumed their back-and-forth.

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Eventually, after several more minutes of parliamentary arguing, the committee voted to allow Greene to finish her allotted speaking time. But Crockett wasn’t finished.

“I’m just curious, just to better understand your ruling,” Crockett said. “If someone on this committee then starts talking about somebody’s bleach blonde, bad built, butch body, that would not be engaging in personalities, correct?”

“What now?” Comer said.

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 @JasmineForUS
So MTG wanted to talk about my appearance in COMMITTEE?! It’s against the rules to do… She refused to apologize! The chairman ruled that it was ok… AND I asked for clarification about what qualifies as “engaging in personalities” & basically wanted to know if I could talk shit about her appearance as… well… y’all know what she looks like, right? PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES! This is what happens when mentally deficient people who can’t read and follow rules or just don’t give a damn… somehow end up in CONGRESS!
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  1. 1.

    TaMara

    LOL, I had to change the title because autocorrect changed butch to bitch…which says a lot about what I’m usually typing.

  4. 4.

    J. Arthur Crank

    MTG is an embarrassment to all carbon-based life.  Christ, what an asshole!

  5. 5.

    smith

    So glad to see Dems punching back! It’s been wearisome to see the expectation among some (*cough, MSM, cough*) that Dems observe comity and bipartisanship in the chamber when the GQP abandoned those a generation ago.

  6. 6.

    bbleh

    The Republican Party *IS* the Asshole Party.  Look at its presumptive presidential nominee!  Not to mention many of its most prominent Senators and Representatives.  MTG is just representing faithfully, bless her heart.

  7. 7.

    MomSense

    It didn’t get as much attention but at some point in that hearing Boebert said that President Trump underwent testing for his cognitive dissonance.  That was one of the funniest things.  I mean these Republicans are so GD stupid.

  11. 11.

    matt

    Well, I hope the Republicans don’t do their usual thing and drum her out of Congress for being uppity.

  15. 15.

    WaterGirl

    This is definitely worth postponing my scheduled post for!

    Show did it ultimately end?  The TPM story I read didn’t include the resolution, either.

  16. 16.

    WaterGirl

    @MomSense: Am I crazy, or during that fight did Boebert make the sign of the cross?

    edit: wasn’t Boebert the one who said gazpacho when she meant to use a different word some months ago?

  17. 17.

    Jerry

    I know how you feel, TaMara. My beloved Hurricanes had their worst third period in their history and lost the series to the Rangers. This one is going to hurt for a while.

  19. 19.

    smith

    @WaterGirl: Don’t know about that, but she recently claimed that when the Defendant appears to be sleeping through his trial he’s really praying. First time for everything, I suppose.

  20. 20.

    Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

    Republicans, they’re not sending us their best. Morons, football coaches, GED barely-passers, con men and women, guys who “date” 17 year old girls, over-educated jerks who read “Green Eggs and Ham” into the Congressional Record and don’t get the point of it.

    “Party of Lincoln”? He’d walk away from them in disgust.

  23. 23.

    WaterGirl

    @smith: Not sure whether you are responding to my original comment, or my edit. :-)

    But I just rewatched the video, and Boebert is most definitely making the sign of the cross.

  25. 25.

    waspuppet

    “Look, let’s just agree that everyone involved here went a little too far and settle on a reasonable compromise—no more women in Congress.” —Mike Johnson, before today is out.

  27. 27.

    Bostondreams

    @TaMara:

    Well, speaking as a fellow life long Sox fan…we HAVE had a nice run the past couple of decades. When I think back to sitting on the couch at 13, so excited, then MacNamara decides to leave Buckner in to finish the game at first instead of subbing in Stapleton like he always did…and Schiraldi suddenly couldn’t get an out…and Bob Stanley decides to throw his first wild pitch like all season..
    We have come a long way in our endings. :)

  28. 28.

    Jackie

    Jamie Raskin trying to hold back his amusement, coupled with Comer’s OH SHIT! What do I do???uncomfortable dismay…. 🤣😂🤣

  32. 32.

    Scout211

    @WaterGirl:  it ended after 11 with a vote.

    The vote passed  24-20 along party lines just after 11 p.m. eastern time Thursday night, hours after the House Judiciary Committee did the same. The full House will now vote on holding the attorney general in contempt.

  36. 36.

    TaMara

    @Bostondreams: I know I shouldn’t complain, but like you, I have those memories. And my dad will call me all season and say, “watching the Sox, they’re ahead by 5, I’m sure they’ll blow it.”  It’s good bonding time.

  37. 37.

    stinger

    @WaterGirl:

    during that fight did Boebert make the sign of the cross?

    I saw it, too. And yes, she said “gazpacho police” when she obviously meant RepublicanGestapo police.

  38. 38.

    MomSense

    @WaterGirl:

    No I think Greene said Gazpacho instead of Gestapo.  I also think Greene referred to Trump’s NJ golf club as Bedminister.

    Boebert is the one who vaped and gave a handjob to her companion at a Beetlejuice performance.

  43. 43.

    zhena gogolia

    Haha, I was just reading the end of the former thread, and I thought, “There has to be a post devoted to bad built butch body.” Thanks, TaMara!

  44. 44.

    TBone

    Pipe Bomber Barbie is not ready to eat what Jasmine will serve up any day of the week and twice on Sunday.  Always best served cold!

  45. 45.

    Scout211

    I laughed when I saw news stories like this  a few months ago.  MTG wants a cabinet position in Trump’s administration.  She’s eyeing Homeland Security.

    For some reason I don’t think that’s gonna happen.  

  46. 46.

    smith

    @Suzanne: I know we like to avoid lookism, but I sincerely think that’s a large part of her animus toward Crockett, and AOC as well. Crockett’s rejoinder must have been a body blow, in more than one meaning of the phrase.

  47. 47.

    montanareddog

    @MomSense: ​
     

    Boebert is the one who vaped and gave a handjob to her companion at a Beetlejuice performance

    I think she was simply making the sign of the cross over his crotch, blessing his balls, so to speak.

  48. 48.

    Gretchen

    MTG ended by saying that she thinks she has a good body, nearing 50, so I think that shot hit home.  Bad build butch body isn’t how she sees herself.

  49. 49.

    jonas

    Normally I’d advise Democrats not to get in the mud and wrestle with pigs — you get all dirty and the pig just enjoys it. But in this case I’ll allow it since it’s MTG and she’s stupid trash who deserves to get stomped. Also, JFC is Comer stupid.

  50. 50.

    Omnes Omnibus

    I love that that this was done as a point of order. She didn’t call MTG anything under the rules. She can’t be censured or have the remarked taken down. Knowing the rules matters.

  51. 51.

    Almost Retired

    I can’t believe that the antics of Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Deliverance) play well in her district.  But maybe it’s so prosperous and equitable that they don’t mind if she spends her time as an elected circus performer.

  52. 52.

    Gretchen

    MTG also randomly demanded that AOC debate her in the middle of that exchange. About what? Who knows?

  54. 54.

    zhena gogolia

    Unfortunately, the long video that baud linked in the previous thread doesn’t include MTG’s remarks, so it looks as if Crockett started it. The comments are racist in the extreme.

  56. 56.

    Nancy

    Would it be possible to front page the Rosie request – it’s almost there and I think a nudge would help it get over the top.

  57. 57.

    Suzanne

    @smith:

    I know we like to avoid lookism, but I sincerely think that’s a large part of her animus toward Crockett, and AOC as well. 

    Oh, absolutely.
    There’s a lot of that among low-class white people. Deep ressentiment at physically attractive PoC.

    I think this is a huge motivating factor for TFG’s loathing of Obama. Just complete seething jealousy that BHO and Forever FLOTUS were seen as better-looking and higher-class than the Orange Ass and his low-class Third Lady.

  60. 60.

    smith

    @Almost Retired: One of the reasons this country is in the political bind it’s in is that there is a large cohort of voters who see politics as a reality show. Acting up on TV is the only thing they require from their representatives. They have no idea  what the job actually entails, and don’t seem to care as long as their main requirement is met.

    I suspect a lot of these people didn’t vote or pay attention to politics at all before 2016, so their understanding of what politicians do was formed by watching the Defendant.

  61. 61.

    Jerry

    @Almost Retired: I can’t believe that the antics of Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Deliverance) play well in her district.

    I promise you, they absolutely love it.

  62. 62.

    FastEdD

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yes! That’s why the response to MTG was much more clever than what she spewed. It isn’t crawling in the mud with them when you use the rules to retaliate.

  65. 65.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @WaterGirl:

    wasn’t Boebert the one who said gazpacho when she meant to use a different word some months ago?

    Maybe (probably) someone has already answered this, but no, that was MTG a couple of years ago talking about Nancy Pelosi’s “secret Gazpacho police.” She meant Gestapo, of course.

  66. 66.

    stinger

    @MomSense:

    Greene said Gazpacho

    I can’t tell Greene and Boebert apart except for their hair color. As with Bannon and Manafort, when I look at any of them, all I see is the ugliness of spirit and absence of decency.

  67. 67.

    smith

    @FastEdD: The other thing that made Crockett’s jab so superb was the alliteration. “Bleach blonde bad built butch body” will be quoted everywhere and remembered, but a snide quip about false eyelashes is profoundly forgettable.

  68. 68.

    hueyplong

    MTG is probably correct to think that her only path to GOPer rehabilitation is to pick a fight with a black female Dem (second best would be any black female athlete/actor/celebrity).

    BTW, I’m totally ok with people calling me catty for loving “bad build butch body.”  I’d already have been using it if I’d thought of it.  She’s MTG4B to me for the foreseeable future.

  70. 70.

    sab

    @MomSense: ” Cognitive dissonance” made me laugh. Note to Boebert: don’t use big words you don’t understand.  There is such a thing but that wasn’t what Trump was tested for. The entire GQP and MAAt movements would fail a cognitive dissonance test.

  75. 75.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    @rikyrah:

    the Alitos and the Thomases are bitter right-wing fanatics who have no business sitting on any case involving Trump and Jan 6

    I’ve said this before but back when Harwood was a cable news regular, I wasn’t a big fan.  He wasn’t as egregious as most but when Olbermann would have him on Countdown, you could count on him to say mostly Villager reporting points.  Again, bland with a tendency to High Broderism.

    But damn, over the last 7+ years, he’s shown his peers how journalism can speak the truth.  That quote should be used frequently.

  76. 76.

    Captain C

    @SFAW: Ya know, I went and looked that up in the Urban Dictionary just to see, and now I am kind of regretting my life choices.  Just don’t ask.

  77. 77.

    Villago Delenda Est

    Those two pictures of Jamie Raskin are worth the price of admission all by themselves.

  78. 78.

    Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

    @schrodingers_cat: An actress with an “interesting” face was  subjected to comments about hay, apples, a bit and a saddle. But we Jackals would never say anything like that about Marjorie Traitor Green. Neigh, that’s beneath us.

  81. 81.

    the pollyanna from hell

    After church in Chattooga County I hear Republicans disagree about MTG. One admires her combative aggression, in distinction with another who is embarrassed.

  83. 83.

    pony boy

    @rikyrah: Of course what’s going on is that jasmine Crockett is DROP DEAD gorgeous and MTG is jealous AF…  And poor little Jimmy Comer…Crockett, Raskin, Moskowitz make mince meat out of him daily and he DOESN’T EVEN KNOW IT!

  87. 87.

    WaterGirl

    @Scout211: Sorry, I was wondering about how the kerfuffle ended.

    Did they strike Marge without an apology?  Did they strike Jasmine?  How did they get from the shitshow back to business?

    That’s what I was wondering.

  89. 89.

    Geminid

    @the pollyanna from hell: Do you hear much about state Senator Colton Moore? I was speculating downstairs that he might challenge Greene in a primary before too long. Moore seems like a young man in a hurry.

  93. 93.

    hueyplong

    @SFAW: “Are we sure she wasn’t just making the sign of the cross in that guy’s lap, that time when she got booted from the theater?”

    She was, she was trying to raise the dead.

  96. 96.

    JPL

    At  least one of the former owners of HD is supporting Biden.

    from the AJC

    But it is one of several stops he scheduled over the weekend in Atlanta. Home Depot co-founder Arthur Blank is hosting a Saturday fundraiser for Biden, followed by his Morehouse College speech on Sunday.

  104. 104.

    sab

    @Gretchen: I have a trans niece and my grand-daughters have a trans half-brother so that “butch” label makes me very uncomfortable, but possibly appropriate here because it will sting MTG.

  105. 105.

    WaterGirl

    @zhena gogolia: @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Okay, I watched for a third time and I see Goldman.

    Who is the female telling them to calm down, and why doesn’t she have to be recognized before speaking?

    Also, anyone who tells someone to calm down like that – when they are upset – has no understanding of human nature.

  106. 106.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @TaMara: Twenty years later, I’m still in disbelief that 2004 happened.  I type this while wearing my “Jesus Hates The Yankees” tee shirt.

  107. 107.

    MazeDancer

    Do I dislike the trend of tarantula eyelashes? Immensely. Would I comment about it ro a beautiful, smart woman like Rep Crockett?

    No, of course not.

    Wouldn’t comment on it to anyone in person. Their choice.

    However, Marjorie’s hair looked especially bleached yesterday. Lanky, unwashed straw.

  109. 109.

    feebog

    There is a longer version that shows the entire incident.  Dan Goldman, who was sitting next to Crockett, can be seen first smiling, then bursting out into laughter.  Jamie Raskin is next to Comer and has to cover his mouth to hide his smile.  And Comer, either didn’t hear or didn’t understand Crockett’s question, because is completely confused and quickly let’s things get out of hand.

  111. 111.

    sab

    @MazeDancer: I am impressed with people who have the fortitude to wear false eyelashes and/or contact lenses. Tougher than me. Lipstick makes my skin crawl. I instinctively chew it off at once. Stuff in or near eyes is uncomfortable.

  112. 112.

    zhena gogolia

    @sab: I thought “butch” was a fairly neutral epithet used by nonbinary people without animus. But maybe it’s not okay used by a straight person?

  113. 113.

    cain

    @MazeDancer: I stay away from making comments about anyone’s appearance. I used to feel free to tell guys – but I’ve cut that out too. Especially, when I realized I hated when my mom would comment about my weight. heh. (I’m not remotely fat, but my mom expects me to look like an adonis for some reason)

  114. 114.

    zhena gogolia

    @WaterGirl: I think that’s Anna Luna (R-FL). She is insufferable in her tone.

    ETA: When someone takes that tone with me when I’m upset, I just get MORE UPSET

  115. 115.

    Ken

    @WaterGirl: How did they get from the shitshow back to business?

    I assume you mean, how did they get from the shitshow to the other shitshow? Because this is a Republican-run committee.

  116. 116.

    stinger

    @WaterGirl:

    Who is the female telling them to calm down

    I wondered that, too. It’s not Boebert or Greene; I hope AOC wouldn’t do it. As you say, and as I used to tell call center trainees, telling someone to calm down results in the opposite.

    ETA:  @zhena gogolia: Anna Luna (R-FL)  Ah, thanks.

  117. 117.

    Juju

    @TBone: MTG always seemed like one of the cheap store brand Barbies that my mom used to buy for me when we were grocery shopping and she wanted me to behave.  The store brand Barbies looked good from a distance, but up close they were not the same as Barbies.

  118. 118.

    UncleEbeneezer

    Has there been a post yet about the report that Shut It Down 4 Palestine and its’ umbrella of orgs (including National Students For Justice In Palestine) were partially funded by operatives of the CCP?  It’s not surprising and of course, doesn’t completely delegitimize the Gaza Protests in any way.  But it is beyond-f***ing-rich that the people who have been so eager to call any/all critics “Pro-Genocide” has been taking millions of $ from a country that has been engaging in its’ own genocide (of the Uyghurs) for a decade.  The aforementioned operative, Neville Roy Singham, is married to one of the co-founders of CodePink, naturally.  It’s also a scary reminder that Russia, Iran and China are all hard at work using these protests to try to divide the Dem Coalition and help re-elect Trump.

  120. 120.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @WaterGirl:

    Who is the female telling them to calm down, and why doesn’t she have to be recognized before speaking?

    Not 100% sure, but I think it was Anna Paulina Luna. She’s from Florida and, befitting her surname, she’s a loon.

  121. 121.

    sab

    @zhena gogolia: That’s what I thought. Straight cis women shouldn’t say it, others might welcome it as a label.

    ETA MTG would recognize it as an insult not a label. That would be delicious if it wasn’t otherwise insulting those who do recognize it as a label.

  123. 123.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @WaterGirl:

    Oh my god, Marge really said – on the record, in congress – that she thinks she has a good body???

    I’ve seen more than one video of MTG going through some kind of workout—jerky chin ups, lifting a barbell over her head and dropping it, burpees…I’m guessing she really does. Her routine looks all sorts of wrong but I assume it’s some sort of CrossFit circuit which I (maybe thankfully) aged out of.

  124. 124.

    wjca

    @Craig: Jasmine Crockett is so badass. She’s so sharp, and prepared.

    MTG going up against Crockett constitutes bringing a (small, dull, pocket) knife to a gun fight. But she’s obviously too dumb to realize she’s waaaay out of her league.

  127. 127.

    zhena gogolia

    Unfortunately, on the CNN version, the commentators go tut-tutting about “the House,” as if it weren’t MTG who did the degradation.

  129. 129.

    WaterGirl

    @sab: You really have to see it.  Marge really pokes the bear (democrats) twice before Crockett speaks up.

    The longer video is in comment #5 one thread over.

  132. 132.

    Suzanne

    @zhena gogolia:

    “And I’m turning 50,” as if people were going to gasp in surprise. She looks at least 55. 

    LMAO RIGHT.
    It’s the terrible bleach job and crusty-ass skincare. She looks like an old lady desperately trying to hang on.

  134. 134.

    sab

    @Suzanne:Rumor has it that athletic enhancement steroids are very bad for female skin care. Doesn’t surprise me. Menopause sucked for mine. And husband three years older than me looks like a pale alligator, who could be profitably skinned for boot hides.

  135. 135.

    Suzanne

    @zhena gogolia: Bleached hair is really difficult to maintain well. It just gets so crusty-looking over time. She looks like she’s in terrible drag.

  136. 136.

    Suzanne

    @sab: Steroids are bad for everyone’s skin. They often cause terrible cystic acne. It’s always been one of the visual giveaways if someone is using them.

  137. 137.

    sab

    Very OT: Does anyone have any good next generation succesiion planning stories?

    Dad died mre than a month ago, and we cannot tap into anythinqq3g that wasn’t something I was signed onto.

    Vanguard, multihours on call to just get through to a human being. And three times we got through to a human who was completely incompetent and my inquiry was shut down within the hour after I applied. And they say wait two to five days. So I have waited six weeks just politley jumping through hoops and making follow up calls, mostly to no avail.

    Trust department is dithering setting up followup meetings for us to get followup trust accounts.

    My bank has been excellent. But those accounts are all subject to probate. That so far has turned out not to be such a bad alternative.

    My dad’s avoiding probate accounts have been glacial. I have a funeral and a headstone to pay for, aside from distributions.

    And promises to his nurse’s aide of eighteen years, still on hold for her severamce pay.

    FUCK BANKS, but banks were not the problem. They have been great, helpful and friendly.

  141. 141.

    Hoodie

    @sab: We have been navigating this for my wife’s parents.  Financial institutions have been frustrating to deal with because they don’t accept the powers of attorney her parents bothered to set up (the institutions have their own proprietary forms) and that means her 90-year old parents, who are competent but fragile and hard of hearing, are forced to go to the bank or talk on the phone to set up arrangements for my wife to manage their affairs.

    They set up an elaborate trust 20 years ago but, frankly, the trust is a hassle to administer and has been a bigger pain in the ass than probate would be.   I guess they were talked into it thinking they’d be hit by estate taxes, but they’re nowhere near the threshold for that.  Things would be better with a simple will.

  142. 142.

    Another Scott

    @sab: I assume you’ve done all the usual searching for customer service director and so forth.  I did a little looking around, but didn’t find anything public (I’m not willing to join LinkedIn to maybe get that information).

    Even writing the CEO / Chairman apparently doesn’t help.

    I would try calling one more time, ask to speak to a manager, say you’ve been very patient but this needs to be resolved.  You cannot keep waiting for them to solve this simple problem.

    You may have to find a lawyer.  :-(

    Good luck!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  143. 143.

    the pollyanna from hell

    @Geminid: Sorry, no. We all don’t talk much about politics. Maybe someday when I get ahead of homesteading I’ll figure out a way to tap into such gossip.

  144. 144.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    @Timill: As someone born over Coogan’s Bluff who grew up with the Yankees, and was working for the Kerry campaign that fall, that stretch of two or three weeks in 2004 was an utterly miserable one, that truly introduced me to the concept of “sore winners” and gave me new definitions for “kicking them while they’re down”.

    I didn’t have an ounce of hate for Red Sox Nation until that fall when I couldn’t get away from all the celebrations, not of the Sox victory, but of the pain inflicted on Yankee fans in their misery.

    And Curt Schilling can burn in hell.

  145. 145.

    sab

    @sab: My dad’s nurse’s aide just checked in. We promised her seversmnce pay for 18 years of amazing care, but we cannot pay because we cannot check into any money we are actually entitled to.

    I did not used to hate banks, but it is a now a visceral loathing. Thieves. Family disruptors. Don’t tell me you have to meet procedures. 5 weeks with a family who has every fucking document you  need is just outright lying. You work for a bank. This is what you do. You know it. That makes you a fucking liar. Why would I bank with you, moving forward?

  146. 146.

    Misterpuff

    Perfect, the BBBBBB (6B) Club although I do think it should be the 7B Club (with the addition of Beoytch) to the descriptor, but even an offended Congressperson is discreet enough to leave it off.

  147. 147.

    Geminid

    @the pollyanna from hell: Thanks. I thought you might have heard some about Colton Moore though “open intelligence sources” like radio, TV or newspapers. He’s from the Dalton area, I think, so he might not exactly be local to you.

    I heard about Moore last fall when he proposed that the legislature investigate Fulton County DA Fani Willis. I looked him up and concluded that Marjorie Greene had better watch out.

  148. 148.

    Matt McIrvin

    @UncleEbeneezer: Russia, at least, tends to have trolls playing both sides of any hot-button issue like this. (I recall that during the George Floyd protests they had people hyping up a pro-BLM and an anti-BLM rally at the same time and place, to try to gin up a fight.) Of course the point is just to turn up the heat and get us hating and fighting each other.

  149. 149.

    CaseyL

    @Geminid: ​Colton Moore? Colton Moore!

    “Now there’s a name I haven’t heard for a long, long time.”/Obi Wan Kenobi

    Another person named Colton Moore became briefly famous in Western Washington back in the early 2010s for a series of low-monetary-value but high-concept property thefts (“The Barefoot Bandit”).

    He was what today we’d call a Feral Kid: someone who grew up with practically no parental guidance whatsoever, who became a thief/adventurer by age 13. His final claim to fame was teaching himself to fly, then stealing a private plane and flying off in it. He was finally caught in 2010, tried for a very long list of thefts, and served about 6 years in prison.

    He came out as a Trump supporter in 2016, which cost him whatever folk hero status he had in Western Washington.

    So I did a BIG double-take seeing this guy’s name.Could they possible be the same person?

    Couldn’t possible be… could they?​

  151. 151.

    Chief Oshkosh

    @Another Scott:

    You may have to find a lawyer. :-(

    Unfortunately, that’s been my experience. Further unfortunately, while definitely useful, the work of the attorneys required careful scrutiny. Not that there was were ethics issues, but that the three firms (in three different states) we worked with just weren’t all that bright, efficient, or detail-oriented. All three of them, though, were helpful in mildly nudging issues along, and sometimes very helpful in playing “the heavy” that got financial groups to wake the fuck up and return a phone call.

  153. 153.

    Geminid

    @CaseyL: No, this is 30 year-old state Senator Colton Moore from northeast Georgia. His family has a trucking and heavy equipment business. Moore got his CDL at age 18 and won the competition for Georgia State Auctioneer when he was 21.

    When he was 25, Moore got his start in politics by challenging the local state Representative and winning. Now he’s a freshman state Senator who’s willing to buck his party’s leadership; a highly ambitious and slick-talking guy.

  154. 154.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @sab: Yeah as a trans woman with a “man-ish” body shape — fuck you testosterone — I’m not that comfortable with “butch body” being used as an insult, no matter how much MTG deserved Crockett’s evisceration. Not just for myself, but for all women (cis or trans) with similar bodies.

  155. 155.

    Shalimar

    @WaterGirl: Greene owns at least one gym and reportedly spends a lot of time exercising, so I assume she works hard on how her body looks.  Let her be proud of it if she wants to.  That isn’t even among the hundred worst things about her.

  156. 156.

    sab

    @Sister Golden Bear: Thank you. It ( butch as an insult) made me very uncomfortable. Glad it was not just me.

    My trans niece, lifetime spent in Ohio, just came back for her grandfather’s funeral. She was welcomed by all of us (aunts and uncles and cousins)  but also by more distant relatives. We were expecting rejection instead she got welcome and love. Even in Ohio

    But it breaks my heart that she does not feel welcome in her birth state.

  157. 157.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @zhena gogolia: “Butch” is a long-standing type of lesbian/queer women’s identify, and typically those who identify as one present themselves in masculine to extremely masculine ways — to the point that some of them are mistaken for men. (There’s anlso other usages and nuances within the LGBTQ that I won’t get into.)

    But the clear implication of Crockett’s insult was that MTG looked like a man and that was a Bad Thing. Which, along with using people’s identities as a insult — similar to how Republicans love insisting Michelle Obama is “actually” a trans woman — and using it as a cis het woman, are why I’m not uncomfortable with it. Especially as there’s no shortage of other things to (rightfully) insult MTG about.

  158. 158.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @sab: Did your father have a broker? When my mother died her broker was able to expedite things in ways we couldn’t. Apparently, financial companies, and stock issuing companies, give brokers access through different channels.

  159. 159.

    CaseyL

    @Timill:

    @Geminid:

    That’s kind of a shame; it would have been hilarious if politician-in-Georgia had turned out to be the Barefoot Bandit with a newly-concocted family history.

  160. 160.

    sab

    @MazeDancer: Silly side story. My stepdaughter grew up in an extremely toxic foster care home. They wanted to torture the children, but they couldn’t beat them. So they tortured them with threats of insects and spiders.

    Step grand- daughter still is toxically afraid of spiders, her mother’s legacy.

    I cannot articulate how angry I am about their fear and anger.

    Also about how these toxic stepparents turned it into a race war. White kids don’t get it. Black kids do.

    My stepdaughter is white and longs to be black, like everyone she loved  and trusted in her childhood.

    ETA We are white. She loved her new dad immediately, but took her twenty years to trust me. I understand. Took so much human failing to disappoint her sufficiently to think I was somehow different and trustworthy.

  161. 161.

    Jackie

    @feebog:

    Comer, either didn’t hear

    He professes to wearing hearing aids – which if true – everyone shouting over each other plus suppressed laughter, would partly explain his bewildered confusion.

    But only partly. As someone noted above, Comer resembled a substitute teacher losing control of the students.

  162. 162.

    Convert

    Yes, the only way to deal with trailer trash is to descend to their level.

    YOU GO GIRL !!!

  164. 164.

    MomSense

    @sab:

    What are we talking about with Vanguard?  Annuity?  Life Insurance Policy?
    Did your dad fill out beneficiary forms or do you need to provide these companies with Estate information?

    Watergirl can share my email with you.  My son is a financial advisor and we typically take care of these things for our clients.

    Did your dad have a financial advisor?

  165. 165.

    AM in NC

    @Jerry:  That was just heartbreaking.  They played so well the first two periods, and then complete collapse.

  166. 166.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @Bruce K in ATH-GR: When the Yankees were up 3-0, in 2004 their fans were hardly paragons of good sportsmanship.  Not to mention, after the soul-crushing ALCS win over the Sox the year before.  Every fanbase is toxic.  And Yankee fans are really no better than any others.

  167. 167.

    Jackie

    Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) called on Justice Samuel Alito to recuse himself from all cases related to the 2020 election and Jan. 6, 2021, after it was reported an upside-down American flag was flown outside his home in the days surrounding the attack.

    ….The justice said in a statement that he has “no involvement whatsoever in flying the flag” and said his wife, Martha-Ann, hung the flag as part of a dispute with neighbors.

    However, the news comes as the court is set to rule on two key Jan. 6-related cases, including whether former President Trump has immunity from prosecution. Durbin said Alito should step back during those cases and play no role in those rulings.

    “Flying an upside-down American flag — a symbol of the so-called ‘Stop the Steal’ movement — clearly creates the appearance of bias,” Durbin said.

    “Justice Alito should recuse himself immediately from cases related to the 2020 election and the January 6th insurrection, including the question of the former President’s immunity in U.S. v. Donald Trump, which the Supreme Court is currently considering,” he added.

    “The Court is in an ethical crisis of its own making, and Justice Alito and the rest of the Court should be doing everything in their power to regain public trust,” Durbin continued, saying it is another reason for Congress to pass legislation to create a code of conduct for justices. “Supreme Court justices should be held to the highest ethical standards, not the lowest.”

    thehill.com/homenews/senate/4670536-durbin-calls-for-alito-recusal-from-jan-6-cases-over-upside-down…

  170. 170.

    AM in NC

    @JPL:   Arthur Blank’s daughter went to the same high school I did in Atlanta.  She was younger than me, and was taught by a friend of mine (and fellow alumna) who taught there for a few years after graduating from college.  The daughter participated in theater and was a good student and a very nice, down to earth person.  Arthur funded an entire arts building for the school.

    How he put up with the odious Langone is a mystery.

  171. 171.

    MomSense

    @sab:

    Do you know if your dad filled out beneficiary forms for them?  You may be able to go to your advisor and have them initiate an incoming transfer into your IRA.  If he did not fill out beneficiary forms then the Estate will have to submit the death claim to Vanguard.

  172. 172.

    Another Scott

    @UncleEbeneezer: Heh.

    I was on a plane during that 3rd game when the flight attendant announced the score and the Yankees fans cheered.  I said “they can come back!”

    And they did.

    And how.  ;-)

    That was an amazing series.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  173. 173.

    K-Mo

    @WaterGirl: There’s this kid named Supa Hot Fire who recorded a bunch of parodies of rap battles where he says something and everybody goes “da Amman” or the equivalent.  This is a 6 second sampling

  174. 174.

    sab

    @MomSense:

     

    @sab: Dad didn’t havena Vanguard broker. Checking with my PNC broker if he can help.

    Hkw fucked is this war of brokers  all of whom allegedly had but did not have our best interest.

  175. 175.

    Jerry

    @AM in NC: That was just heartbreaking.  They played so well the first two periods, and then complete collapse.

    They were already on the flight to New York half way through the third.

  177. 177.

    MomSense

    @sab:

    It’s crazy.  I see how hard my son works for his clients even when he doesn’t earn a dime helping them.

  179. 179.

    Betty

    @Shalimar: If you notice, she often wears sleeveless tops to show off her guns.  She even wore one when delivering the Articles of Impeachment, a very formal occasion.

  181. 181.

    NotoriousJRT

    @schrodingers_cat: my nephew noted that EmptyG looks like she stepped out of a natural history museum diorama amount cave people. I simply think of her as the wide-faced, pig-eyed woman

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