The only thing that Fareed has ever gotten right is his take on the martini and he plagarized some of it. He did the same for seven other articles in Newsweek. Yet, years after actions that would have gotten regular old journalists fired, he persists, like a bad rash. I’m not going to read this drivel because if the last few years have taught us anything, it’s that Netanyahu supporting a two-state solution is the very definition of “far-fetched.”
(That screenshot is from the Post, where Fred Hiatt refused to do anything about him and still pays him for columns.)
Old Man Shadow
“I mean, sure, every action he has taken has shown that he supports a one state solution with Israel as that state and the Palestinians ethnically cleansed from Gaza and the West Bank, but just look at his imaginary heart…”
Baud
If the two states are Israel and East Israel, maybe.
OTOH, my imagination is pretty flexible, at least when I’m thinking about myself.
rikyrah
Fareed has overlived his usefulness.
GTFOH with that bullshyt about Bibi
Cacti
ICJ has ruled against Israel. Not that it will stop them, but it cements their status now as a rogue nation…
And of the US, unfortunately, as an enabler of one.
Cacti
The decline of US soft power also seen with Spain, Ireland, and Norway recognizing Palestinian statehood.
rikyrah
Jeff Kemp
@jkempcpa
The new GOP definition of Recession: I’ve got plenty of money to spend but having Biden as president sucks the joy out of it. Therefore we are in a recession.
9:19 PM · May 22, 2024
https://x.com/jkempcpa/status/1793466732595785817
Another Scott
Dr. Adam reminds us that Bibi often says one thing in English for American audiences and the (nearly) exact opposite in Hebrew for the Israeli audience.
Something something believe them the first time. – M. Angelou
Cheers,
Scott.
Mike in NC
That Fareed Zakaria has a career as a journalist will forever remain a mystery.
matt
Thing is morons babbling like this are popular with moron readers.
Soprano2
This is in the same category as the articles speculating that TFG might finally see the light and grow up. *rolleyes It’s as bad as Medhi Hassan saying that Joe Biden could just pick up the phone, tell Bibi to knock it off or we’ll quit doing “x”, and Bibi would knock it off. Perhaps we should do that, but I don’t think it would make Bibi quit doing anything.
Turgidson
And he’s not even in the top 5 (maybe even 10!!!) worst opinion columnists at the Post. Thiessen, Olson, McMegan, George f’ing Will, Parker… 🤮
Just the other day, f’ing Will said a SCOTUS ruling about CFPB funding that was so blindingly obvious that even *Clarence Thomas* couldn’t find a bad faith fig leaf to vote the way his paymasters wanted was.. “dangerous”. Such a fucking clown.
WaterGirl
@Cacti:
Or maybe that was actually done with full knowledge and agreement ahead of time. Like Barack Obama’s “Now make me do it.”
Spain, Ireland and Norway have strengthened Biden’s hand with Israel. More countries to come, I expect.
Turgidson
@rikyrah:
That has to explain a big chunk of the “vibecession.”
With the Wurlitzer in such an advanced state that it can literally convince its audience that the sunny, cloudless sky is actually a Cat5 hurricane, no Democratic president can expect to ever see above-water approval ratings again, until they are leaving office and the machine has turned its attention to the next nominee. (see Obama, Barack)
Baud
@Turgidson:
Agree. Fake vibes about the economy helped them in 2016.
WaterGirl
I think it’s within the realm of possibility that Bibi might at some point be forced to say he supports a 2-state solution, but even if he did the he would handicap any action toward the end. See also stonewall, block, undermine, blow up…
gene108
Netenyahu supports a solution. One state will be the Jewish state of Israel. The other state, somewhere in the world, far away from Israel could be a state where all the Palestinians are deported to.
Harrison Wesley
Of course he supports a two-state solution. There’s Israel, which in the future will include Gaza, the West Bank, and southern Lebanon. And there’s Palestine, which will be located a couple hundred miles west of Haifa. No problem.
artem1s
@rikyrah:
The new GOP definition of Recession: I’ve got plenty of money to spend but having
Biden as presidentto share a good economy with the poors sucks the joy out of it. Therefore we are in a recession.artem1s
@WaterGirl:
Bibi supporting a 2 state solution = Boof and Amy Covid Barrett declaring abortion settle law
Danielx
Ranks right down there with Dubya calling Ariel Sharon a man of peace.
Geminid
@WaterGirl: There really are not that many countries left that haven’t recognized Palestinian statehood.
What can hurt Israel now is voluntary economic boycotts. Turkiye finally announced it would suspend exports until this war is settled, and they supply a lot of steel and cement for Israel’s construction industry.
Israel’s dunderhead Finance Minister countered by imposing a 200% tariff on the goods Turkiye refuses to ship. That’ll show ’em!
Another thing that can hurt Israel is the sanctions regime Biden announced Feb. 1 that’s directed at lawless West Bank settlers. The UK and France immediately joined in, and Germany did a few days later. I expect Treasury Secretary Yellen will be pulling the trigger soon on the ringleaders of the mob that vandalized aid trucks earlier this week.
catclub
Well,…. now they would.
Baud
@catclub:
“I have settled the law. Pray I do not settle it further.”
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Bibi comes across as less bonkers version of Trump, so yes, it’s not hard to imagine a scoundrel of the lowest sort with no fixed principles, and only interested in what benefits him personally at that very moment doing a 180′ like that.
catclub
Cyprus?
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Even though the majority are mouthing off about “Biden could stop Bibi in a New York minute”,the very micro-second Biden does that that very same majority will start screaming “OMG, Biden is abandoning our allies to their fate! WORSE THAN TRUMP!!! as shown when Biden halted some arms shipments just to stop Bibi from going full Failed Austrian Painter. So, Biden has to wait until everyone forces Biden to do what Biden wants to do.
Cacti
Israel seems genuinely flummoxed.
Their usual MO of calling any opposition anti-semitic and appealing to Holocaust guilt, isn’t making anyone budge. And those have worked for so long, they have no other cards to play.
Geminid
@Danielx: Well, Ariel Sharon did evacuate Gaza. He had already left Likud to form a new party because Likud would not assent to “separation,” which was Sharon’s euphemism for a Two-State resolution. We’ll never know where Sharon, the Hawk’s Hawk, would have taken Israel if he had not been felled by a stroke.
Kelly
@catclub: Atlantis
Baud
@Cacti:
They have a trump card left, so to speak. If that works out for them, they’re home free.
NotoriousJRT
Can’t disagree with anything here.
Geminid
@gene108: People have talked constantly about the Israelis expelling millions of Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank. I know some Israelis including members of Israels rotten government advocate this. But early in the war, when Netanyahu asked the leaders of France, the UK and the US to persuade Egyptian President al-Sissi to allow refugees from Gaza across the Egyptian border, they told him “No way, al-Sissi won’t stand for it and neither will we.”
I don’t think expulsions have been on the table since then. That would cross the red lines of too many nations who Israel depends on.
Lately,al a lot of Israelis have been bluster on about how they can make it on their own, with the entire world against them, but I doubt if many actually believe that. Israelis may be a lot of things, but they’re not some strange race of idiots.
HinTN
@gene108: That would be Jordan, from whence they were originally driven to the West Bank.
WaterGirl
@artem1s: All three – Bibi, Barret, and Boof – Corrupt, self-serving, power-seeking, ideologues who care nothing abut the law.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Thanks for not including Baud on that list.
trollhattan
“Imagine a Bibi who is not as awful as Meat Bibi has been continuously, up to this very day.
“Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.”
Roberto el oso
@Cacti: Ireland is a bit of surprise. They are usually like the Swiss, disinclined to involve themselves in anything.
Baud
@Roberto el oso:
I read somewhere that Ireland has always been supportive of the Palestinian cause. Don’t know the history though.
Geminid
@Roberto el oso: I think the Irish may tend to identify with the Palestinians because of their own experience being occupied by the English for many centuries
trollhattan
@WaterGirl: Barrett and Boof sad they have not been able to actually kill people, only indirectly via rulings which frankly, not nearly as satisfying.
Am noticing rhetorical similarities between RW Israeli politicians and official PRC spokescritters, with a hot, disdainful dose of “How dare you?!?” ladled on every soundbite.
Baud
@trollhattan:
It’s a right wing staple. I know technically the PRC isn’t right wing, but they’re authoritarian in the manner of right wingers.
Roberto el oso
@Baud: the IRA did make use of PLO training camps during the ’70s. Which also tallies with what Geminid says in the comment following yours, so yes, there’s probably some sense of shared experience. I also expect there was sympathy among the Irish for Irgun et al., during the Mandate years, given that they were sticking it to the Brits.
kindness
I just read that article over at the WaPo. Happily most of the comments mock Fareed and point out Bibi wants to take Palestinians land and doesn’t care how that happens.
Roberto el oso
Zakaria has always been something of an odd bird. He floats back and forth from Panglossian fantasy to being very brittle and peevish about small things. He’s quite good on tv though, especially with the volume on mute.
RaflW
Our Failed Media Experiment continues apace. All this chaff is the need for people with the power of the pen (and web clicks) to express their emotive need to say “things could be different” while sucking an endless hopium pipe.
But writ large, it’s all in service to letting the status quo stagnate. Giving Trump ‘the benefit of the doubt’ all the time, when us normies know there is no doubt that he means what he says (not the gibberish, but the threats, the allusions to Reichs, all that).
It’s a thousand fantastical ways to suck up to white*, straight, male power and a refusal to say that there’s a different way that would respect the global south, or LGBTQ+, or women or BIPOC folks views on governance & policy.
*Don’t know that Netanyahu identifies as white, per se, but relative to Palestinians and Arabs, he’s what the conservative American power broking club considers white enough.
Baud
@kindness:
Sometimes I think half of punditry these days is about trolling libs for clicks.
WaterGirl
@Baud: Tempting, of course, because of ‘B’ !!! :-)
Another Scott
Speaking of trolling…
I’ve had more people help me look for my car keys.
Cheers,
Scott.
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: Curses!
That’s in the post I was ready to put up but mistermix beat me to the punch by minutes. I moved it back 30+ minutes, and David Anderson posted him. So I moved it back again, and you post the tweet from my post.
Maybe I should go back to bed!
Another Scott
@WaterGirl: Nobody* reads my comments anyway, so it’s all good. Post away!
Cheers,
Scott.
==
* – It could be Opposite Day, but it probably isn’t!
Villago Delenda Est
@gene108: May I suggest Madagascar? After all, that’s one of the options the Nazis contemplated for the solution to the “Jewish Question.”
Roberto el oso
@Villago Delenda Est: re Madagascar: when this was proposed the Finance Ministry supposedly expressed concerns about the cost of transportation, etc., and Goering laughed and said not to worry, the Jews would be on foot the whole way.
smith
@Another Scott: A very white crowd looking for those car keys, in the Bronx, where the popuation is 8% white. I don’t believe every one of them turned out for the Defendant’s mumblefest — more likely, it was the usual Dreadheads from someplace else who follow him around the country, and even they didn’t bother to stay and hear the nonsense.
JWR
Amanpour & Co. on our broken SCOTUS (Youtube link):
EthylEster
The best thing about Zakaria’s tenue at WaPo is that he writes there much less frequently than the odious Kathleen Parker.
Villago Delenda Est
@JWR: Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas do not have a single ethical bone in their bodies. Restore trust in the Supreme Court? Purge all Federalist Society members from it.
Cathie from Canada
Yeah but, in Zakaria’s defense, I think there is a non-zero chance that an intern actually wrote the plagiarized articles so …
Anyway it sounds like we have reached peak fantasy now on both sides of the Israel Hamas War, thinking there is a quick and easy solution to the mutual hate-fest if only everybody could just get along.
Ken B
@Roberto el oso: Fun fact, during the Irish potato famine, Ireland continued exporting food because that was more profitable for the British landlords than keeping their tenants alive.
Not at all surprising to me that the Irish support a people being crushed by a more powerful neighbor.
Corvidarchism
@Geminid
There’s an Israeli guy in California in a chat group I’m on, and he spouts this one constantly. He is adamant about how there is no such group as Palestinians, no Palestinian history or culture whatsoever, and that they should be all forced into Jordan. And when he’s not ranting about how Israel has the moral duty to ethnically cleanse its territory of Palestinians and the collective guilt of said Palestinians, he’s also railing about the ethnic cleansing directed at Jews.
Some people look at an atrocity and see something that should never happen, others want to get their turn in.
Geminid
@Corvidarchism: There are plenty of Israelis who think that way, but there are plenty more who don’t, if only on pragmatic grounds.
And almost 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs, and they have a different point of view. Although, I saw video of one Bedouin IDF officer who said he was going to see every last Hamas fighter dead if he had to kill them himself. He looked like he meant it, too. Hamas killed 50 Bedouins on October 7, and kidnapped more.
Geminid
@Geminid: Hamas did not kidnap more than 50 Bedouins on October 7, just a few. But they murdered the civilians they came across indiscriminately, whether they were Jewish Israelis, Bedouins, or foreign farm workers.
Ironcity
@Geminid: Hamas sound like just a peachy bunch. Souldn’t we welcome them to Columbia, UCLA and other places that seem very friendly?
Geminid
@Ironcity: I liked the idea the Saudis floated back in January, whereby Hamas would surrender on condition that they be evacuated to Algeria, similar to how Arafat and the PLO were evacuated from Beirut and shipped to Tunis in 1982. I think the Saudis arranged that one too.
This war has probably gone past that solution, but I’d still like it to happen just to see how the Hamas people do in Algeria. That country is run by some very hard men and I think they’d make those Hamas fighters walk the line. The Algerian Army grew out of the fighters who threw the French out of Algeria, and they are not going to be impressed by some fighters who got thrown out of Gaza.
linnen
Palestinian expulsion from Gaza (West Bank expulsion as well being implied) was non-starter because nobody, and I mean nobody anywhere, believed that Netanyahu and the current Israeli government would allow them to return. The Palestinian ‘right of return’ has been and is being rejected at all levels in the Israeli government with very few exception.