I do love me some Jack Smith.
Dear Donald,
I’m sorry you stepped outside your MAGA bubble and got beat up like a rented piñata at an anger management seminar.
To remedy this harsh dose of reality, you could announce a MAGA rally next week in a safe zone, sell a few hats, issue some “they’re out to get me”…
— Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) May 26, 2024
Full text:
Dear Donald,
I’m sorry you stepped outside your MAGA bubble and got beat up like a rented piñata at an anger management seminar.
To remedy this harsh dose of reality, you could announce a MAGA rally next week in a safe zone, sell a few hats, issue some “they’re out to get me” fundraisers, post some Taylor Swift concert crowds and claim them as your attendees.
Hope this helps.
Yours truly,
Jack
Open thread.
Steeplejack
We should all send Trump a piñata. 🪅
WaterGirl
@Steeplejack: maybe a Trump piñata!
prostratedragon
Alison Gill asks an excellent question.
dmsilev
I have essentially nothing good to say about RFK Jr and his campaign, but handing out rubber chicken noisemakers to his supporters as a way of taunting Trump was a worthy idea. Too bad the Secret Service wouldn’t let the chickens in through security.
WaterGirl
@prostratedragon: who needs a Subway sandwich or a file folder when you’ve got a rubber chicken?? :-)
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: did they give her reason for not letting the river chickens in through security?
JoyceH
Taylor Swift crowd? Forget crowd size, these MAGAts could only dream of obtaining such production values.
And just out of curiosity- has anyone here met a Trump supporter with an ounce of class? Every one I’ve ever seen has been just Too Tacky For Words.
dmsilev
@WaterGirl: Not that I’ve heard.
dmsilev
Also, for context, from the Post’s coverage of the Libertarian Convention:
Only getting a third as many votes as brain-worm guy is pretty sad.
SpaceUnit
Apparently the booing and heckling was way more loud than the C-Span coverage showed. Seems like they had the audio fixed to mostly catch the response of trump supporters who’d been placed up front.
RandomMonster
I don’t know. Wouldn’t a Trump piñata just explode in a sphere of semi-digested transfat shit?
Steeplejack
@dmsilev:
So who eventually got the Libertarian nomination?
lgerard
Stormy Daniels received one Libertarian write in vote to trump’s six. If she had only shown up she wold have beat him, again
WaterGirl
@SpaceUnit: Total coincidence! Not planned at all! //
dmsilev
@Steeplejack: Some guy named Chase Oliver. I’ve never heard of him either.
Sister Golden Bear
@Steeplejack: A Libertarian party activist. Not sure which faction he’s from.
Steeplejack
@dmsilev, @Sister Golden Bear:
A defeat for the Mises Caucus, at least. That’s a good sign.
SpaceUnit
@WaterGirl:
Yeah, I don’t watch C-Span coverage much, but I thought they’d be a little more neutral.
Guess I shouldn’t be surprised in this day and age. Sigh.
BlueGuitarist
Ken Burns commencement speech has been getting some attention, abandoning neutrality, he called Trump “the opioid of all opioids,” or maybe it was hemorrhoid of all hemorrhoids
https://alumni.brandeis.edu/news/2024/commencement/ken-burns-remarks-video.html
Steeplejack
@SpaceUnit:
C-SPAN visual coverage tends to be tight to emphasize the speaker, so it would follow that the audio would be focused the same. Not necessarily sinister.
Jackie
@dmsilev: RFK jr beat TIFG by 10 votes at the Libertarian Convention!
I haven’t seen TIFG’s excuse as yet!
That has to burn and leave a mark, though!
SpaceUnit
@Steeplejack:
That makes sense. So have you found C-Span to be neutral for the most part?
Again, I really don’t watch. Just want to know what media is trustworthy and which to avoid.
Soprano2
It’s so funny that TFG thought the Libertarians would like him.
Some nights I feel my existence is mostly to wait on other people and animals. Our dog acts like he wants to go out, then literally 5 seconds later is scratching on the door to come in. Sometime last night the same dog peed on the clothes hamper. Said pee ran under the new rug I just bought yesterday. I can’t have a new, clean rug for even one day. If that he would barking we’d get up and let him out. It pissed me off. I used to look forward to the weekend; now I dread it.
Geoduck
@Steeplejack: Not sinister on C-Span’s part, but I’ve read that the Shiatgibbon’s handlers tried to seed his followers at the front of the room, cutting off the actual Libertarian delegates, and there were even physical scuffles over the issue.
Jackie
@Soprano2: Lotta pissing and pissed off in your household!
Steeplejack
@SpaceUnit:
I’m not an avid viewer, but for the actual events C-SPAN seems to be neutral: there’s a camera setup and the event is shown without commentary. It’s often a good alternative to the networks and pundit channels (CNN, MSNBC, etc.). Before and after, though, forget about it. C-SPAN lets viewers call in and opine, and you will hear some crazy, crazy shit. I know very little about their talking-head shows, if any. I just use C-SPAN sometimes to cover an actual event in real time.
dmsilev
@Jackie: His excuse, such as it is, was basically ‘I meant to do that’, claiming that he wasn’t really running for the Libertarian nomination because he was already the Republican nominee, but if he run he’d have won.
Only, he used more all-caps and less grammar.
Soprano2
@Soprano2: If we heard him barking we’d let him out.
Steeplejack
@Geoduck:
Yes, and the libertarians eventually won the scuffle and got the front-row seats so that they could harass Trump. C-SPAN picked that up as well.
Soprano2
@Jackie: Yeah, and I didn’t mention that we didn’t get to go to the baseball game because of the rain and hubby didn’t eat the food I made him. Weekends are mostly frustrating for me now.
SpaceUnit
@Steeplejack:
Okay, thanks.
Geminid
@Jackie: I wonder who in Trump’s circle promoted this sorry endeavor. Maybe it was Trump’s idea, but I doubt it.
Whoever’s responsible, I bet Trump is mad. He just gave a competitor a ton of free publicity.
West of the Rockies
@dmsilev:
I must have missed some news bit… what do rubber chickens have to do with Trump?
sab
@West of the Rockies: See comments #3 and #4 above.
Steeplejack
@West of the Rockies:
RFK’s people were giving out squeaky rubber chickens to take in to Trump’s speech to disrupt it, but the Secret Service confiscated them.
West of the Rockies
Thanks, Sab & Steeplejack!
emrys
@Soprano2: if this is not normal behavior, you might want to get him checked for a urinary tract infection.
Jay
@Geminid:
The Mises Caucus of the Libertarian Party is trying to take over the Libertarian Party and turn it into a MAGA Org.
They control the senior leadership and the committees.
This has already caused about 1/3rd of the party to leave and form their own party.
The Mises Caucus are the ones that invited TIFG to speak and probably gaslight what his reception would be like.
We know how well TIFG’s staff do homework.
sab
@West of the Rockies: They are sort of rubber chicken shaped vuvuzelas.
wjca
Some, although TIFG’s supporters aren’t common in the circles in which I move. But they are in the “I will vote for him” range. Not the “My god-king can do no wrong” range.
Which is to say, a conviction and a couple of felony trials in progress may well be enough to move them come November. Down ballot might be a different story; or might not. But TIFG himself is on thin ice with them, precisely because they are not fanatics.
Jackie
@Geminid:
Nothing is done without TIFG’s approval. But, Yah, somebody’s going to take the blame. NOT TIFG!
Chet Murthy
@wjca:
It is precisely in the hopefully-not-vain hope that the Trumpists I know are like this, that I don’t send them taunting emails reminding them of all the shite that their Pyrite Calf has wrought. One can always hope for redemption, even if the chances are slim.
wjca
@Chet Murthy: I don’t send them taunting emails reminding them of all the shite that their Pyrite Calf has wrought.
It’s hard
impossiblefor some here to grasp that nuance. But doing so, across Biden supporters, is likely to be the difference between ekeing out a win and something resembling a landslide. Not sure how to get that across to someone, but hope it can be accomplished by someone smarter than me.West of the Rockies
@sab:
Oh, yes… from the World Cup Soccer event back in 2010. (I had to look up the year.)
Chris T.
@WaterGirl:
Did it have something to do with a feud with the mountain chickens? 😀
eclare
Power here went out about thirty minutes ago. According to the utility hotline, should be back on by 3 am CDT. We didn’t even get winds?
eclare
@dmsilev:
I would have gone with vuvuzelas. Way more annoying, and no way TIFG security people knew what they were.
eclare
@Soprano2:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2024/05/26/dementia-caregivers-aggressive-repetitive-behavior/
I am sure you are getting tons of advice that you don’t want or need, so feel free to tell me to back off, but I saw this article and thought of you.
divF
@Steeplejack: But did they set the chickens free?
NotMax
@eclare
A chorus of kazoos humming “Taps.” Or the opening bars of Chopin’s Funeral March.
//
eclare
@Soprano2:
I am so sorry. Your whole household has been turned upside down.
Chet Murthy
@wjca:
I must confess that I only grasp that in the limit. I certainly have boundless contempt for Trumpists, and would never have one for a friend or willing acquaintance. Thankfully, I have no Trumpist family, so I don’t have to make that decision. I can only refrain from pouring out my scorn and hatred upon them, in the tiny, tiny, tiny hope that maybe one of them might repent. It’s a tiny hope, but hey, it might happen. I also might get a pony.
Chris T.
@Chet Murthy: The longer you live, the better the chance of getting a pony. But I don’t know if lim P(pony) = 1 as lifetime -> \inf, or if it’s smaller than that.
RedDirtGirl
@Steeplejack: they didn’t manage to get them all. I saw at least one being held up in one of the clips of people booing him that was posted yesterday.
Mousebumples
@Sister Golden Bear: is he the Libertarian that was on the ballot in 2020 that forced the runoff that let Ossoff beat Purdue?
Geminid
@Mousebumples: I think it was Shane Hazel whose 100,000+ votes kept David Perdue below 50%, and forced the runoff that Jon Ossoff won. Hazel declined to endorse either Ossoff or Perdue.
Geminid
@Mousebumples: The totals for the top 3 finishers in the November, 2020 Georgia Senate election, rounded to the nearest thousand:
Perdue 2,269,000 49.73%
Ossoff 2,374,000 47.95%
Hazel 115,000 .42%
Totals for the January 5, 2021 Senate runoff:
Ossoff 2,270,000 50.61%
Perdue 2,215,000 49.39%
Two striking aspects of the runoff:
1) Ossoff’s vote total declined by only 104,596 from November.
This was a credit to Georgia Democrats and their GOTV efforts. It’s worth noting that while for the most part Democrats had refrained from door-to-door campaigning in 2020 on account of the pandemic, Georgia Democrats reinstituted direct voter contact for the runoff, with precautions as in: talk from a distance if someone anwered the door, and/or leave campaign literature a few feet away. My friend in Atlanta pitched in until he tripped on a curb and ended up with his wrist in a cast.
2) Perdue’s vote total dropped by almost 248,000!
This was contrary to Georgia’s historic pattern of Republicans doing better than Democrats in runoffs. Here, Donald Trump played a role with his whining about how Kemp and Raffensperger refused to subvert the November Presidential result. Trump in effect suppressed the Republican runoff vote, but he never really cared about any Republican besides himself anyway.
Timill
@Geminid:
Purdue’s first round total should be 2,463,000
Lower total but higher %age than Ossoff does not compute…
WaterGirl
@Chris T.: Dammit, I was commenting from my phone.
I meant rubber, obviously. But it was worth it for your funny comment.
WaterGirl
@Geminid: Possibly the only important contribution a libertarian has ever made.
Geminid
@Timill: You are right. I gave Perdue the wrong total. November numbers were:
Perdue 2,462,517 49.73%
Ossoff 2,374 519 47.95%
Hazel 115,209 .42%
@Geminid:
Mousebumples
@Geminid: fair enough, thanks. I didn’t check this am. I just remembered a Libertarian on the ballot. Thanks!
JaySinWA
I assumed the chicken ban was based on the probability of using them as projectiles as in Svengoolie. I assumed that was their purpose, I didn’t realize they were noise makers. I think they banned water bottles for the same reason.
Geminid
@Mousebumples: Those two Georgia elections were fascinating, especially the runoff election on January 5th. Had it not been for the assault on the Capitol the next day, the runoff would have gotten much more attention than it did.
Especially considering how consequential it was. Biden would have accomplished far less without Warnock* and Ossoff in the Senate.
* I did not include Warnock’s totals because he was in a “jungle ” primary in November with several other Democrats. On January 5, Warnock ran about 20,000 votes ahead of Ossoff.
Colette South
@Soprano2: Long weekends are extra hard in situations like yours. I feel for you.
Ironcity
@Chris T.: I use that phrase on my youngest when the ask or incipient ask is unreasonable / impossible. The “joke” also is she already has a 16.3 hand off-track thoroughbred she events at a moderately high level, so it’s like offering Newgarden a used Civic.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@dmsilev:
the right to bear rubber chickens, shall not be infringed.