Via the Politico, I learn that we are all supposed to be freaking out:
A pervasive sense of fear has settled in at the highest levels of the Democratic Party over President Joe Biden’s reelection prospects, even among officeholders and strategists who had previously expressed confidence about the coming battle with Donald Trump.
All year, Democrats had been on a joyless and exhausting grind through the 2024 election. But now, nearly five months from the election, anxiety has morphed into palpable trepidation, according to more than a dozen party leaders and operatives. And the gap between what Democrats will say on TV or in print, and what they’ll text their friends, has only grown as worries have surged about Biden’s prospects.
I just don’t know what to say to this. Do I find the idea of four more years of Trump terrifying? Absolutely. Do I think it will be the end of democracy as we know it in the United States? Yes. But at the same time, what is the point of freaking out? I can’t mentally live in fear of what I can not control. Not to mention, what am I supposed to fucking do, anyway? Vote harder?
It’s already depressing enough knowing that I live surrounded by people who love them some Trump, and knowing that I live in a country that could very easily elect him. I just can not lose my shit over it every day.
In other news, Israel is just galloping torwards its new destiny as a complete pariah state:
Israeli shelling and airstrikes killed at least 37 people, most of them sheltering in tents, outside the southern Gaza city of Rafah overnight and on Tuesday — pummeling the same area where strikes triggered a deadly fire days earlier in a camp for displaced Palestinians — according to witnesses, emergency workers and hospital officials.
The tent camp inferno has drawn widespread international outrage, including from some of Israel’s closest allies, over the military’s expanding offensive into Rafah. And in a sign of Israel’s growing isolation on the world stage, Spain, Norway and Ireland formally recognized a Palestinian state on Tuesday.
Fucking hell. The Israeli military initially took credit for the strikes triumphantly claiming the death of two Hamas leaders or henchman or I don’t even know what they call them anymore, but is now arguing that it was in fact a precision strike, and I don’t know and can’t predict what kind of statements they will backpedal to because pretty much we’re at the point where they don’t care anymore and will just say “but 7 October and fuck you.”
All of this, as wiser people have noted (Adam), is all for nothing because they have no strategy, only tactics, and are basically so deep in a game of whack a mole that they don’t even really care if they are actually aiming at moles any more. It’s gotten so bad that even one of the worst fucking human beings in the world, Piers Morgan, is occasionally making sense.
At this point, though, it just feels like the Israeli government has decided to redo every bad mistake the United States made post 9/11 but in the most fucking incompetent and evil way possible. The whole fucking thing is tragic.
As you all know, I just love birds, but for the past four hours there is a mourning dove perched in one of my trees just about level with my office window, and it WILL NOT SHUT UP. NONSTOP. I even went outside to see if something was threatening its nest, but there was nothing. Guy just needs to get laid or something. But he is making me mental in the process.
In other news, the tumor of a pimple on my forehead will not come to a head, and if the wind blows hard it hurts. If it does not get better by tomorrow, there will be some home surgery taking place. I am now on day five of sinus hell, and my already sour mood is now escalated to low simmer, and I am even more pissy and irritable than I was yesterday.
Currently on Season two of the Boys rewatch (I never saw season 3 and a new season is coming out), and playing Horizon Forbidden West, although my character Aloy never shuts up. Joelle is doing well. Just thought I would throw that out there because you gossips get all het up when I don’t mention her every now and then.
West of the Cascades
Without reading the Politico article, I can guess that it names one of these freaking out Democrats, quotes several “who declined to be named,” and mostly just makes shit up to spin a narrative. Since this is what passes for “reporting” in most Beltway publications, it seems like it can safely be filed under “bullshit.”
Burnspbesq
The world would be a better place if Glenn McGrath (legendary Aussie cricket bowler, capable of getting it up there at 93-95 mph) had hit Piers Morgan in the head instead of the elbow all those years ago.
Baud
A dozen party leaders and operatives have said anxiety has morphed into palpable trepidation?
Scout211
Are you aware there are two threads in a row entitled “Tuesday Evening Open Thread?”
May cause some confusion in the Recent Comments sidebar.
kissel
Honestly if Biden loses it will be fault of the Democratic party for not being progressive enough, but they will try to spin it as if the progressive side cost them the election.
Baud
@kissel:
That’s a Hall of Fame comment, stranger.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
Shorter Politico:
Yes, we and most of the other privileged upper-middle class straight white males who dominate the political press are racist, misogynist pieces of shit who miss the good old days when we could grope and rape interns and junior staffers, before the MeToo movement spoiled our fun. Not coincidentally, the idea of President Kamala Harris fucking terrifies us, so badly that we piss in our pants with fear at the idea that Biden – Harris might win this election and then face the flaming ruins of a post-Trump GOP in 2028.
Hence we will lie our lying liar on-fire pants off, concerning this election.
That is all.
Barbara
I don’t take anything for granted but I long ago stopped reading anything the only point of which is to tell me what “might” happen. It’s not edifying.
The Thin Black Duke
@Baud: On point, Baud.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: Bad writing is endemic in the Democratic party.
Luther M. Siler
I saw that, thought “No, we aren’t,” and didn’t bother to click.
zhena gogolia
@ThatLeftTurnInABQ: Thank you!
Scout211
I saw that “Democrats are freaking out” article and avoided it. I’m not interested in reading Politico’s clickbait about the Biden campaign in freakout mode.
However, if it was about the Republicans freaking out about the Trump campaign, I’d read it and prolly post it in the comments. LOL
moops
The point is, it is time to start campaigning, HARD. Enough with partial measures and doling things out in social media. Get out there and campaign. Stop being the White House, entirely. From now until the election, the executive branch is a dead letter office. The only goal now is re-election. No GOP would be bothered in the least at this decision. This war, act like it.
bbleh
@Baud: It has morphed into palpable trepidation?! Oh noes!! Soon it may manifest as visible nervousness! Or perhaps even … emerge as manifest agita!!
I don’t know how many layers of mutual fluffing are going on there, but I will say that I do not disapprove of actual nervousness among Dems at this point. We NEED to be operating at Defcon … uhh … let’s say Three. The Orcs are stirred up, and their leaders and influencers have pushed the pedal to the metal. We can’t not do the same.
(And no, that does not mean running around with hair on fire. It means donating and volunteering and that sort of thing. It means getting involved rather than just fretting publicly.)
EarthWindFire
You only learned this now? I’ve been told that I’m supposed to be freaking out since the MI primary because uncommitted and did you know Joe Biden’s old? Democrats freak out. It’s our nature.
As a party, we’ve had Stockholm Syndrome with the right since Reagan if not Nixon. Dem voters seem to be getting over it but strategists aren’t keeping up.
SiubhanDuinne
Yeah, thanks anyhow, I decline.
Damien
I’m glad a Palestinian state is being recognized, it’s about time. Out of curiosity, do we know what the boundaries are that they’re recognizing, and who they recognize as the government of the Palestinian state?
Bex
Russian disinformation. Media falls for it every time.
Bostondreams
Re: HFW. If you think Aloy won’t shut up now, just wait until Beta shows up.
Kudos though to Ashley Burch, who does an amazing job with the voices in that game. I prefered Zero Dawn, but really enjoyed the sequel. Sad we lost Lance Reddick for the final game. Plus, the DLC was fantastic and made all the right people angry
And here’s hoping that the coming show is as good as Fallout!
Steeplejack
I think WaterGirl changed the name of her thread.
Rob
Sorry to hear about your dove, John. But they do that.
sukabi
John, the only thing I can offer advice on is the forehead pimple…. there are a couple of things you can try first is a pimple patch
or home remedy that will help reduce irritation… grated raw potato as a poultice …
WaterGirl
@Scout211: As Steep mentioned, my post is now “Tuesday Early Evening Open Thread”. Crisis averted!
Scout211
@WaterGirl: Thank you. You are the best.
Confusing recent comments now not confusing. 😊
Kelly
I spent a while today with Mom in memory care watching reruns on the PAC12 channel. The last PAC12 game was played a couple days ago, Arizona winning the baseball tournament. I wonder how long the ghost of the PAC12 will live on. Mom likes her sports. PAC12 reruns were the only sports on and well reruns are OK she’s in memory care. Weird Bill Walton died the day after the PAC12 faded away. Bill was such an enthusiastic PAC12 alumnus.
SomeRandomGuy
I think this is time for Democrats to try for some performative outrage. They should approach this like sex in an arranged marriage, where you don’t go stampeding forward and expect results.
It’s the best time ever to bring up the comment sections of Republican postings, and say “I mean, if I had supporters saying this, I’d wonder what was wrong with me. Wouldn’t you?”
Try moving slowly, and letting your partner (that’s the journalist) set the pace, so when you are ready to make your move, they’re in sync with you, and ready to believe the worst, of someone who wouldn’t reject support from such people.
Don’t try for a home run right off the bat – if you get to second base, where they have to think hard about how to “both sides” it, that’s good for now, but, keep working to find out when they’ll give up the good stuff, and report the truth uncritically.
Leto
John, yesterday when I woke up my sinuses felt like a bomb had dropped on them. Apparently a very delayed allergy season hit me all at once. Woke up this morning feeling even worse. Took a Clariton and hoping for the best. Did 4 hours of yard work, which didn’t make things worse, so small happiness there.
matt
Yeah, it’s not like I’m going to go out and give $2000 to Biden because of a Politico piece.
wombat probability cloud
@Scout211: Gonna wait for the Tuesday Late Evening Open Thread before I comment.
Scout211
MomSense
I’m too tired to make dinner. Going to have an ice cream sandwich and call it a night.
WaterGirl
@Scout211: Will the real Tuesday Evening Open Thread please stand up?
kindness
Use a hot compress John. The pimple will pop.
Harrison Wesley
@Baud: Christ, that sounds like something W. C. Fields would say. “Young man, if there is such a thing as palpable trepidation, then you are that thing!”
kissel
@Baud:
@moops: I love your username.
kissel
@Baud: Thanks.
Doug R
If you’re behind on The Boys, I’d suggest watching Gen V before season 4 drops. Ties into the main series with different characters although a couple of heavy hitters show up.
There’s also the cartoon series with a few backstories.
Old Dan and Little Ann
Today was my first day of a new year. I got out of the shower and noticed something on my inside thigh this morning. It was a godddamn tick! My wife had to pick it out and its still hurts 12 hours laters. Then I picked up my backpack on our family room floor and the mouse I’m always on the look out for scurried the hell away form me. I don’t know if it was under, in, or on my backpack. I gave it a not so glorious chase wearing a winter glove and holding a broom for 5 minutes. I saw it 3 times and it disappeared. Fucker.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@MomSense: Ice cream is always a good choice
Scout211
LOL. You should have renamed your thread “The Real Tuesday Evening Open Thread.” 😉
Ksmiami
@West of the Cascades: I think a little fear is actually motivating
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
The Village runs a version of this trope every four years.
This is the DOOM version the FTFNYT ran on March 13, 1940. FDR won all the delegates and “unpledged” received only 13.21% of the vote but that didn’t stop them from manufacturing their narrative.
TBone
@Harrison Wesley: chef’s kiss
schrodingers_cat
Indian election update. One phase left. It will be this weekend. Since this is Balloon Juice, I am posting this brilliant ad about Modi balloon again. And hoping that Indians have pricked the balloon that is the Modi phenomena and let out the hot air once and for all.
When Mr. Ordinary is on his scooter, he is wondering why old road that has always been there is being inaugurated again. (Modi has actually done this for roads and schemes, just renamed already existing stuff and passed it as new).
Question: Do you want a dispassionate account of the elections from me or my account about what I think should happen and why. Or both. Thanks.
Manyakitty
@schrodingers_cat: both, please.
Ksmiami
@moops: exactly – no more hiding in the White House boys, we have an election to win!
MagdaInBlack
We have squirrels that live in the rafters of the body shop part of our building. They don’t bother anything and they’re just kind of part of the “ambiance.” Until the roof over the office leaked and the ceiling tile fell in and my corporate masters, in their usual way, have not fixed it. Since then we get regular furry visitors in the office and have twice had to shoo one out. BUT today I came in to my boss cleaning, because critters had spent the weekend playing and eating and tracking crap all over everything.
I asked if we could NOW get the GD ceiling fixed? Please?
hrprogressive
I’ve already stated in other places that I don’t really know what to feel about Biden’s prospects, because Adam seems confident Trump has at least a 1/3rd chance of victory which, if this country were sane, wouldn’t even be a 3% chance…and he consistently states he doesn’t peddle “hopium” around here…
But yet I think there is a legitimate argument to be made about whether the polls are actually accurately capturing real statistical voting bases and their intention to vote in a few months, and/or if bad-faith polls with terrible weighting, sampling, or other dubious methodologies aren’t actually trying to place their thumbs on the scale in Trump’s favor.
That said, let me ask President Hillary Clinton what she thinks about polling, before I make a decision there.
Also, it’s pretty clear to me that so-called “news outlets” whether they are political in nature or not absolutely want to see Trump elected again, either because they actively want to be a part of his fascist hellscape, and/or they just think Trump = Record Profits & Deregulation and everything else is secondary. “Real Journalism” is basically dead at the mass media level, so, forgive me if I don’t immediately trust Politico or WaPO or the NYT claiming “zomg sky is falling for dems!” when the same places that predicted a 2022 Red Wave were dead fucking wrong, in spite of trying so, so hard to make it happen.
I’m not confident Biden wins, because the consequences of him losing are so, so dire.
But the idea that his goose is completely cooked just because Our Gilded Betters said so doesn’t resonate with me. Voters still get one more chance, at least, to have a say in this country.
cain
So all this out raising Republicans on money, Trump in multiple criminal trials and women’s healthcare becoming illegal in a lot of states and we are supposed to be panicking ?
And we all know what a tight ship Biden and others run in terms of leaks. I think these people love to put this shit out there to get clicks.
MagdaInBlack
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Seconded.
gene108
Why wouldn’t Democrats have a sense of fear about this election? Trump is in one and faces three more criminal cases against him, he lost a defamation case being found civilly liable for sexual assault, and currently owes the State of New York $400 million+ pending an appeal, and polls show a close race.
Biden can win the popular vote by 7-8 million and still lose the EC to Trump.
Fear also motivates people to be cautious, prepare, and think of ways to overcome what makes them afraid. I’d rather have Democrats afraid of second Trump term than cocky and not doing the work.
rebelsdad (aka texasboyshaun)
@kissel: the purity ponies can eat my week-old shorts.
Josie
@kindness: This. Make sure it is very hot.
Princess
A one third chance of Trump winning sounds about right to me. On the one hand, Dems have been widely over performing in actual elections. On the other hand, Gaza, inflation, housing prices. And people expecting a tsunami of new white women voting for Biden are going to be sorely disappointed. For one thing, a heck of a lot of solid GoP white women are married post menopausal women who don’t need to worry about pregnancy but love low taxes.
Michael Bersin
Meh.
The choice in November is between a Fascist pig and his acolytes or people who are not. The “insider” handwringers are much more worried about their access. Hence the handwringing.
In 2008 David Sedaris nailed it (in The New Yorker):
“…To put them [undecideds] in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. “Can I interest you in the chicken?” she asks. “Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it?”
To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked….”
Our world has not changed for the better since then.
As for the handwringers, shut-up and fight, or get out of the way.
Kay
So Alito lied about the insurrection flag and there are texts to prove he lied. Also his wife is as insane as Ginni Thomas – but probably the bigger issue is we just caught a SCOTUS justice in a big, humiliating lie.
Martin
What kind of monster gets tired of Ashly Burch voice acting? Good christ, man.
Jharp
Regarding the home surgery.
Get a clean rag and dip it in the hottest water you can stand and apply it to pimple.
And then keep doing it over and over until it comes to head. Again, as hot as you can stand.
schrodingers_cat
@Manyakitty: Thanks I will try to do both.
In his last speech he was ranting against, of all things, Sunday. And then turned it into an anti-Christian rant. Christians are small minority in India.
SW
The only silver lining I can think of to a second Trump term is that the state funeral promises to be hilarious.
frosty
@Old Dan and Little Ann: Yes, dammit, birding season has turned into tick season. I picked five off two days ago and I didn’t even walk through any high grass!
I’ve now stolen OzarkHillbilly’s line and I tell Ms F I’m going out to feed the ticks.
Time to soak a set of hiking clothes with Permethrin.
Baud
@Kay:
I heard about that. Maybe our news media will take a second look at who leaked the Dobbs draft.
Honus
Just thought I’d comment to see if I still can. Just tried over at LGM and got a message that I was banned. I guess because I suggested that Wilt Chamberlain was one of the too 5 NBA players ever on the Bill Walton thread.
japa21
@schrodingers_cat: Both, please.
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: You have a lot of expections from our Republican Godi media.
Kayla Rudbek
A rainy night here and we have acquired yet another tandem bike. Mr. Rudbek is planning for Spain and he found a da Vinci tandem with 26” wheels (basically a tandem mountain bike with independent pedaling to make starting on hills easier). It may be time to deal with the HOA and find a shed to put into the backyard, as the basement is getting crowded with bikes.
Baud
@SW:
The other silver lining is that I can sit back and relax and watch other people try to fix everything.
mrmoshpotato
@ThatLeftTurnInABQ:
I’m good with pissing on the orange shitstain’s disgusting, orange, fascist grave around 5 years down the road.
Jay
The FTFNYT’s “pollster” added a caveat to his current predictions, today. LGM covers it.
Basically after months of wanking and hyping TFIG’s polls, he basically admitted that while Biden has tripled his lead amongst “always voters”, TFIG’s “favorable” poll numbers are weighted heavily by “never voters”.
Covering his ass when his elections predictions don’t even come close to actual votes.
Red Wave everybody.
I made the mistake of answering one online poll about Pierre The Con, As PM, I basically replied I the comment section that I wouldn’t piss on him or any member of their party if they were on fire.
Now I get Con spam twice a day.
sdhays
The grammar police over there are brutal!
Argiope
Home surgery makes me nervous when the surgeon has had naked mopping-related incidents. While I can’t give medical advice to someone not my patient, I will say that in general, warm compresses are a really good start to pimple and abscess care and will probably resolve the issue if consistently applied, assuming this is a regular pimple. If it doesn’t work, please don’t go after yourself with a sharp instrument. You’ll shoot your eye out.
cain
@schrodingers_cat: what’s his problem with Sunday ? Does he want to start using the vedic calendar ?
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Honus: Much to my surprise, I’ve been “permanently banned” on twitter. I can still read there, just not post, so that’s fine because I can still follow breaking stories which is what twitter is best for. I have no idea what brought on the ban.
Roberto el oso
@Damien: my understanding is that the recognition is symbolic, given that there is no Palestinian state. So the 3 countries are saying that when/if such a state comes into being they will recognize it, with all that means in terms of diplomatic exchanges, trade agreements, etc.
If it’s more than that then it would indeed be interesting to know who the Spaniards & Norwegians & Irish are speaking with (presumably the PLA in the West Bank). Gaza is obviously another matter since it’s an active war zone, but for all intents and purposes, the Palestinian leadership remains Hamas.
sab
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Maybe somebody reported that one of your books had a gay widow?1
lowtechcyclist
@SiubhanDuinne:
Ditto. I don’t do despair, and panic’s not really my thing either. I’ll take a pass.
schrodingers_cat
@cain: Called it a Christian holiday. One of his speeches he said if Congress wins they will steal your buffalo. He sounds demented.
Jackie
@MomSense:
I’ve been there! Sometimes a dinner consisting of an ice cream sandwich (or two) is the perfect dinner!
eclare
@MomSense:
That sounds perfect!
eclare
@WaterGirl:
Where is the real Slim Shady?
Suzanne
So. The puppy, Coco, gets lots of walking/running. Multiple times a day. Mr. Suzanne realized last week that she does not poop in the backyard, only on walks. So, today, she went out and ran with Mr. Suzanne for two miles in the morning. Then I took her for a two-mile run at lunch. Then Mr. Suzanne took her for a walk after work, about a mile. The damn dog is now being a punk-ass and demanding another walk. No, fuck you, I’m in bed.
mrmoshpotato
@Jay:
Do you tell them to go blow a moose?
Steeplejack
@Kay:
Is this new? I haven’t seen anything today.
Jinchi
I thought the strategy was to keep Netanyahu in power long enough to cause enough chaos to get Trump elected and then Israel and Russia will have free reign to wage war in peace.
Baud
@Steeplejack:
nytimes.com/2024/05/28/us/justice-alito-neighbors-stop-steal-flag.html
eclare
@MomSense:
I may have a bag of Cheetos. They were on sale this week.
Jinchi
That’s how he won the first time. In our two-party system, either candidate always has a real chance of winning, especially when there are several major actors who are trying to game the system. I expect many October surprises this year.
Honestly a 1/3rd chance is a pretty poor showing for Trump and shows just how bad he is as a candidate.
cain
@Argiope:
See how ethical you are. The SCOTUS doesn’t have even a fraction of your ethical behavior.
cain
@schrodingers_cat: lol .. whut?
That does sound insane.
schrodingers_cat
@Dorothy A. Winsor: What did you do to land in Twitmo?
Steeplejack
@Kay:
Okay, found the Times article (🎁): “The Alitos, the Neighborhood Clash and the Upside-Down Flag.”
cain
@eclare: I’ve been eating potato chips to my wife’s consternation.
schrodingers_cat
@cain: It was a speech that he gave in Gujarati. That is his most devoted cult.
cain
@Steeplejack: that Alito is a liar is pretty unsurprising
mrmoshpotato
@Suzanne: Hahaha!
Tinare
Every election since 2016* we hear that Democrats are f*cked, and every election they outperform. Trump has a base. And that’s it. His base is not growing. Does the fact that the electoral college exists and makes it so Dems have to win an insane portion of the popular vote to eke out an electoral college win give me angina? Yes, it does. But do I think that the number of people willing to crawl over glass and through fire to vote against Trump has gotten smaller in the past four years? No, I don’t. These stories seem like total bullcrap to me.
*2016 being the last time the polls said the Democrat was way ahead. I’d worry more if they said Biden was cruising to re-election.
schrodingers_cat
@Tinare : They are always discounting the support from the Never Trumpers that Nikki Haley is still getting.
Argiope
@cain: They also don’t have any oversight like the rest of us do. Lifetime appointments mean never having to say you’re sorry.
sdhays
@cain: It’s all ethical under Alito’s special Witch Law precedents.
eclare
@cain:
One of my grandmas lived in good health, driving, to 88 eating Doritos for lunch every day.
Kay
@Steeplejack:
Thanks.
Bonkers. Also, the sign said “you are complicit” so crazy lady took that to mean “Mrs Alito is complicit”?
Steeplejack
@Baud:
Thanks.
Jinchi
My guess is that Elon’s XAi has been tasked with hunting down all the posters from Balloon-Juice.
I blame DougJ.
mrmoshpotato
@eclare:
Mmmmmmm
mrmoshpotato
@Jinchi: Hahaha!
pajaro
I worry a lot about a lot, but I refuse to freak out about the election, because I don’t know what the world is going to look like in 100 days, and I don’t believe that there are folks out there who can see the future much better than I can. We don’t even know what the world is going to look like at the end of this week, when we might get a verdict in the Trump case, nor do we even know what the effect of any verdict (other than an acquittal on all counts) is likely to be. We don’t know what the economy is going to look like in September, what the Supreme Court is going to do, what the impact, if any, will be from any decision, what’s going to happen in the Middle East or Ukraine, and what the effect will be here from anything that does, and on and on. Even if we did know what was going to happen, we would still be stuck with broken polling and an electorate whose decisions on which “lesser evil” it was going to choose would be difficult to discern. What we can predict with some success is what each of us intends to do in the near term to contribute to the outcome we hope to see. FWIW, I appreciate this site because so many of you are focused on what we can do, rather than on joining each other in rending our garments.
sdhays
@schrodingers_cat: I’m pretty sure it was her epic expletive-laden 132 post Xitt-stream ridiculing Elon Musk and the Cybertruck.
Kay
“Put up a sign personally insulting Mrs Alito” is another lie. Only in “perpetually aggrieved world” could that sign be a personal insult.
One nice thing about the Right wing justices and their nutty spouses is how miserable all of them are. They should resign. They’re not tough enough for these jobs.
eclare
@mrmoshpotato:
I’ll share them with my dog.
Wapiti
@Suzanne: I read once (long after I had a dog), that the idea is to train the dog to take a dump right after going out, then reward the dog with a walk.
mrmoshpotato
@eclare: Do they still make Cheetos Paws?
Jackie
Rut ro! TIFG is going to go bonkers! RFK jr is once again encroaching on HIS TERRITORY of supporting traitors to the Union!
mrmoshpotato
@Jackie: Meh. Let them fight.
SiubhanDuinne
@ThatLeftTurnInABQ:
Very nice to see your nym. It’s been a while, and I hope you are well. I’ve wondered about you.
Honus
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I just tried again and was able to post so I guess they did some research and found out I was correct about Wilt getting 50 rebounds in one game against Bill Russell. As for not being able to post on Twitter, consider it a blessing. They don’t deserve you
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
dexwood
Don’t ever change, Cole.
Harrison Wesley
@Jackie: Sounds a lot like “very fine people on both sides.” Where have I heard that before?
Peke Daddy
@sukabi: John, try some coconut oil on it. It will soak through the skin, it is an effective anti- microbial agent.
Argiope
@Kay: Martha Ann sounds like a real piece of work. How dare someone express disaffection with 45 on her block? She decided they needed a talking-to and elected herself to give it to them. I see why the young couple eventually got alarmed. She must have seemed on the verge of deranged.
We need to tell Emily Baden about Balloon Juice; sounds like she’d fit in around here.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@SiubhanDuinne:
Thanks, that is very kind of you. I lurk as much as I can find the time for but very seldom comment any more. More often than not other people have already said what I wanted to say, and said it far better than I can.
Best wishes
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Baud:
If the presstitutes can’t name names then they don’t exist. I’m sick of these bullshit stories they make up in an attempt to depress Democrats. Anonymous sources telling them exactly what they want to hear? Yeah but no.
The mainstream conservative media is going to keep doing this until the day of the election. They NEED TFG much like lampreys need a host to thrive.
mrmoshpotato
OT – shove all the singing, T-Mobile!
Sure Lurkalot
@Princess:
The idea of having your daughter or DIL at risk of bleeding out from a problem pregnancy might change a mind or two.
sab
@Kay: The Trumpers cattycorner across the street in 2022 put up a huge Trump sign pointed not at the street but towards our house. I was personally insulted ( and a little freaked) but I didn’t put my freak flag up, and we are retired not Supreme Court Justices here in my house.
I am pretty blatant with political signs now, but when I was working I was much more circumspect. Your employer in the private sector can fire you.
Federal judges : impeach for high crimes or misdemeanors. We need to work on various options.
Honus
@Jharp: You’re advising Cole to 1) boil water 2) apply it to his face and 3) do this repeatedly for an indefinite period.
you’re new here aren’t you?
Splitting Image
You have to consider the source and consider the timing.
Politico released this article the day before jury deliberations are set to begin in a trial that could upend the whole campaign.
This means that the point was to get the DOOMED messaging out there, not to accurately gauge the way the wind is blowing.
If I worked at Politico, I would have at least waited until the New York trial ended, so they could at least have argued that Democratic gloom was because Trump’s conviction was helping the GOP, or because Trump’s acquittal was helping the GOP. As it is, they can’t even say for sure why the Democrat bigwigs (who they don’t name) are becoming despondent.
Gretchen
There was a fellow on Twitter last night asking if we don’t have any red lines before we stop supporting Biden. If he says we should outlaw abortion, would you still support him? Huh? Huh? Like, if he turns into a completely different person, which he won’t, what would happen then? And people were seriously discussing it like this was a sensible question about something that could actually happen.
pat
@Old Dan and Little Ann:
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Go to Urgent Care and get some antibiotics against Lyme disease!
mrmoshpotato
@Gretchen: One ratfucker and a bunch of idiots.
scav
@Jackie: Can’t wait for his visceral pleasure in all the statues celebrating the good in the undeniably historical figures of Lee Harvey Oswald and Sirhan Sirhan.
rebelsdad (aka texasboyshaun)
@scav: He’ll have the soundtrack to Assassins as his inauguration’s playlist.
*shudder
Quadrillipede
Figuratively or literally?
rebelsdad (aka texasboyshaun)
@Quadrillipede: Yes.
Chris
@Jackie:
Can he fucking name even ONE Confederate general whose statue was “desecrated” that wasn’t a slave owner?
Quadrillipede
@ThatLeftTurnInABQ: seems about right… old white men can be so tiresome if they feel insufficiently pampered
Honus
@Jackie: “Said Kennedy: “There were heroes in the Confederacy who didn’t have slaves.”
Right. Name one.
I guess Lee could technically be one since his slaves mostly came from his wife’s family. But basically Kennedy is just ignorantly reciting long- debunked lost cause bullshit.
BellyCat
Nominated.
sab
@sab: Misdemeanor : lying blatantly ( not just I goofed and forgot) on your financial reporting reports. How the phuck is this not where corruption shows or conceals its ugly head?
Jackie
@Sure Lurkalot: Yes, even anti abortion white women have to be thinking twice about the real possibility of their daughter/granddaughters dying needlessly because Drs refuse to save their lives because they
mightwill go to prison, will make some reconsider the definition of reproductive health care. Not ALL abortions are had voluntarily.Jackie
@scav: Or does Bobby jr think they’re QAnon conspiracy theories?
It’s crazy realizing two of the three presidential candidates are basically insane… and Biden may well lose to one of them.
JanieM
@ThatLeftTurnInABQ: I too mostly lurk here, but I’ll de-lurk to say that I too am glad to see your handle! I didn’t start reading BJ until early 2016, so maybe we didn’t overlap much here, but I remember enjoying your presence at Obsidian Wings.
Hope you’re well!
Kay
@sab:
We have a neighbor who did that with a Bush sign in 2004. In the (20 years!) since though he almost died from cancer and got a lot less combative – now he hangs flags with suns on them, or “spring!” – things like that. Maybe he’s not a Trumper. His wife was always a nice person. She came over once to tell me that my middle child was jumping off the roof and onto the trampoline while I was at work. An ER nurse. She knew how that would end :)
Mousebumples
💯
For any aspiring Postcarders, Postcards to Voters has addresses for an open House race – Michael Kripchak in Ohio. No idea on his chances, but for a special election? Let’s put in the work and hopefully get a future Sen. Brown voter to the polls!
Mousebumples
@Jackie: even if they’re anti-abortion, these terribly written (and terrible) laws often outlaw miscarriage care.
Most women know someone who’s had a miscarriage – if they haven’t had one themselves. I find that line of attack effective over the normies that I gauge to be less persuaded by my argument for freedom of self determination over my own damn body.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@JanieM:
Thanks, I hope you are doing well also, and any other lurkers out there too, including some of us Old Contemptibles who remember the early days.
Manyakitty
@schrodingers_cat: oh wow. And there’s still plenty of time for madness before the election concludes.
Gary K
The internet has everything:
10 hours of mourning dove calls
Juju
@Old Dan and Little Ann: Try equal parts of baking soda and peanut butter. Mice can’t resist peanut butter nor can they digest baking soda. The mouse will die after eating the peanut butter. You may not know, as much as smell where it might have died, but it will decompose quickly this time of year. Also. If you have a dog or cat mouser, and they eat the mouse, it won’t hurt them like a mouse that has eaten mouse poison can.
Colette South
@Jharp: here’s my grandmother’s home remedy: heat a small-ish empty bottle in boiling water; the bottle opening should be a little larger than the pimple.
Place the bottle, opening down, on the pimple and hold it there a while–you are essentially vacuum steaming the pimple. It should burst, and voila!
Juju
@Kay: it would be such a shame if he was forced to resign. 😜
Juju
@Tinare: Hilary Clinton was way ahead until Comey came out with the more bad emails thing. Blame Comey.
Juju
@sdhays: Sad, but true.
Ruckus
@Kay:
They believe they are the chosen whatevers.
If egos could be weighed their egos would outweigh them. They are pompous, arrogant and a fair number other negative things I’m not going to bother to type. This is a family show….
Now there have always been people like them in the political wing of humanity, it’s just that their numbers and disgusting humanity have grown with the population, and their voices have grown with wider communications. Their current leader seems to be accelerating his declining mental situation, ie aging out, which MIGHT turn off some of his supporters.
Anotherlurker
Speaking of getting banned from questionable social media platforms: My Facebook account has been permanetly disabled. Back in March, some friends told me that it looks like my account had been hacked, I attempted to change my password. I made the request and was told that they would send a code to my cel #. They have the correct #. I didn’t receive the code so I requested it again. Same thing. I made several further attempts with the same result . Despite fb having the correct #, I never received the code. The next thing I know is that Fb contacts me and says they are permanetly disabling my account because they could not verify it. Grrrrrrrr….
Oh the genius of Silicon Valley tech bros.
Melancholy Jaques
@kissel:
If Biden loses, it will be because people who knew full well that they should vote for him, chose not to do so.
Jane2
@schrodingers_cat: Both, please.
kissel
@Melancholy Jaques: that’s an overly simplistic view. Biden has failed Gaza, has failed student protesters, interfered with Ukraine negotiations to keep the war going, etc.
I know you will say that he is better than Trump, which is obvious. But don’t act like it’s easy for people to vote for someone in good conscious who is allowing thousands of people to be slaughtered. For some people, the only way to get rid of the binary system is by letting it blow up.