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Thursday Night Open Thread: Amusing Ourselves to Death

by Anne Laurie|  June 6, 20249:04 pm| 147 Comments

This post is in: 2024 Elections, Open Threads, Trumpery

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In the eyes of the media, BIDEN is running for president, a job that requires extraordinary acuity, insight, scrupulousness, and patriotism. But Trump is running for Clown President, a job that requires being the biggest goof in the room. And that’s the standard each is held to. https://t.co/4xOfmVZLas

— Will Stancil (@whstancil) March 14, 2024

Good news for pedestrians in Fifth Avenue. https://t.co/0ndTBUq3vv

— David Frum (@davidfrum) June 5, 2024

HBO should do a reboot of “Oz” except it’s the entire staff of the Trump campaign, plus the candidate. https://t.co/ZhXa5gL9vE

— Michael Weiss (@michaeldweiss) June 6, 2024

We “report”; you deride!

The 'legal experts say' line here is incredible. Journalism is the view from nowhere… close to rationality. https://t.co/TxKONFIbuA

— Brian Wasik (@BrianRWasik) June 6, 2024

But just maaaaybe…

I actually think it's a winning issue that he's a complete criminal who is also very bad at crime. He was merely protected by a thousand layers of inherited wealth, power and privilege.

Finally getting a criminal conviction shatters the Teflon myth.

He's Fredo now. https://t.co/pU9o4ELPr4

— zeddy (@Zeddary) June 4, 2024

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    1. 1.

      Baud

      June 6, 2024 at 9:12 pm

      Cutting off your nose to spite your face may lead to a loss of smell, some doctors suggest

      Reply
    2. 2.

      Danielx

      June 6, 2024 at 9:12 pm

      That last one…despair for my country.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      Omnes Omnibus

      June 6, 2024 at 9:14 pm

      @Danielx: Okay, fuck it.  I am going to go watch The Longest Day.

      Reply
    4. 4.

      SpaceUnit

      June 6, 2024 at 9:15 pm

      @Baud:

      I’m surprised they didn’t run with some legal experts say.

      Reply
    5. 5.

      Baud

      June 6, 2024 at 9:15 pm

      @Danielx:

      I don’t know. I have confidence in Biden’s ability to bribe Stormy Daniels and get away with it.

      Reply
    6. 6.

      kindness

      June 6, 2024 at 9:16 pm

      Am I surprised to see Trump loyalists turn obvious truths inside-out to support Trump?

      No.

      Am I surprised to see Republicans line up against the courts and law in order to support Trump?

      Again, no.

      Am I surprised to see ‘liberals’ bag on Joe Biden so hard they end up supporting Trump?

      Yea, I didn’t see that coming although I probably should have.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      Baud

      June 6, 2024 at 9:17 pm

      Via reddit

      President Joe Biden says he will not pardon his son Hunter Biden if he’s convicted on gun-related charges
      The president also told ABC News that, regardless of the verdict, he would accept the outcome of the trial, which began this week.

      Reply
    8. 8.

      Scout211

      June 6, 2024 at 9:17 pm

      Thanks, AL.  Sometimes ya gotta laugh instead of scream.

      This fun fact makes me laugh, too

      When 12 Manhattan jurors returned after a day and a half of deliberations on May 30 and convicted Donald Trump of 34 felonies, they added to an astonishing losing streak for the former president.

      Trump and his company have been unable to win over a single juror, out of 42 total, in recent criminal and civil trials.

      “It’s a very remarkable thing. In all these jurors, he didn’t succeed in getting one, not one person,” said criminal defense attorney Robert McWhirter.

      The juries — two in state criminal trials and two in federal civil trials — have unanimously and quickly ruled against Trump. Winning over just one juror is often the baseline hope for defense attorneys, because a jury that can’t reach consensus — known as a hung jury — results in a mistrial. One juror can save a defendant from defeat, at least in the short term.

      Not very competent at criming and not very competent with juries of his peers.

      Reply
    9. 9.

      Baud

      June 6, 2024 at 9:18 pm

      @kindness:

      although I probably should have.

       
      I agree. This isn’t new.

      Reply
    10. 10.

      moonbat

      June 6, 2024 at 9:20 pm

      I want to say that our national televised news started dropping off a cliff as soon as the news divisions were handed over to the entertainment side of the network. And then we were literally in Network, the movie, where the fate of the nation is played with for ratings.

      Newspapers saw the internet cutting into the their profits and said, “Hey let’s do the same thing!”

      I’m heartsick about WaPo being taken over by a bunch of Murdoch cast-offs. Going to go donate to ProPublica.

      Reply
    11. 11.

      Steve in the ATL

      June 6, 2024 at 9:22 pm

      @Baud: he already did, but we will never find out about it. Dark Brandon strikes again!

      Reply
    12. 12.

      Steve in the ATL

      June 6, 2024 at 9:23 pm

      @moonbat: figuratively, but the rest of your points stand

      Reply
    13. 13.

      Scout211

      June 6, 2024 at 9:24 pm

      Trump fans are dropping like flies.

      Eleven people have been hospitalized while waiting for a rally featuring Donald Thursday in Phoenix, where temperatures climbed to a sweltering 110 degrees and lingered in the triple digits.

      City fire officials confirmed that number at 3 p.m. local time, saying all had been transported to local hospitals due to heat exhaustion while waiting to get into a Turning Point rally featuring the former president. Reporters on the scene shared video and photos on social media of rally attendees being carried off in stretchers and receiving intravenous fluids outside the venue.

      That’s not funny.

      Reply
    14. 14.

      Baud

      June 6, 2024 at 9:28 pm

      Earlier this year, GM Authority reported that the next-gen Bolt EV is currently scheduled to launch in the Summer or Fall of the 2025 calendar year as a 2026 model-year vehicle. Just a little more than a year away, it now appears as though General Motors is attempting to make the upcoming 2026 Chevy Bolt EV the most affordable all-electric vehicle in the United States.

      Reply
    15. 15.

      lowtechcyclist

      June 6, 2024 at 9:31 pm

      @Scout211: ​
       

      I just can’t imagine wanting to live in a place where it gets that hot.

      Reply
    16. 16.

      smith

      June 6, 2024 at 9:32 pm

      @Scout211: I hope the speeches at that rally dwelt at length on how climate change is a hoax.

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Baud

      June 6, 2024 at 9:33 pm

      /r/Canada on Reddit is a cesspool of Canadian MAGA, but /r/Ohio seems to be full of libs.

      Go figure.

      Reply
    18. 18.

      Peke Daddy

      June 6, 2024 at 9:35 pm

      “Amusing Ourselves To Death: Public Discourse In The Age Of Show Business” is a thoroughly excellent, prescent book on the dangers of superficial communication. Neil Postman saw “Brave New World” as the template of the control future.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amusing_Ourselves_to_Death

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    19. 19.

      Baud

      June 6, 2024 at 9:35 pm

      @Peke Daddy:

      I’ve been remembering Brave New World recently.  I should reread it. It’s been a long time.

      ETA: the major thing he got wrong was “feelies.” Indulging sex isn’t a recipe for control.

      Reply
    20. 20.

      Sure Lurkalot

      June 6, 2024 at 9:35 pm

      Via Ron Filipkowski on Twitter

      Dr. Phil with Trump:: “I know you got thick skin. You’re not one of those people afflicted with the need to be loved by strangers. You’re a billionaire. You got a great family. You’re a very dedicated father. Why do you subject yourself to this?”

      Oprah didn’t send her best.

      https://nitter.poast.org/RonFilipkowski/status/1798879040188919881#m

      Reply
    21. 21.

      Geminid

      June 6, 2024 at 9:37 pm

      @Scout211: He has an outdoor rally scheduled in Las Vegas Sunday. It’s supposed to start at noon, when it will be only 98°.

      Reply
    22. 22.

      Alison Rose

      June 6, 2024 at 9:38 pm

      Ahoy, jackals. The prodigal bitch has returned. Temporarily. Because I’m in need of (non-monetary) help and I’m getting desperate and am therefore totally shameless. Which makes me sound like Trump but them’s the breaks. (Also ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha guilty MFer.) (Also too the sentencing date is my birthday so I am hoping for a nice gift from Justice Merchan.)

      Back to the point: Are any of you a non-retired MD, ideally a GP or psychiatrist, in California? Or perhaps your spouse or child or sibling or someone else close to you is? I know that might sound like I’m inviting you aboard the Good Ship Unethical, but I promise this is for nothing questionable, except for how I question both my own existence and that of this G-dforsaken country at least ten times per day.

      If you answered “aye” to either question, please could you email one of the FPers and ask them to forward you along to me.

      Thank you, gracias, merci, danke, Дякую, תודה, bedankt, mahalo, and so on and so forth.

      Reply
    23. 23.

      mrmoshpotato

      June 6, 2024 at 9:38 pm

      News Analysis: Donald Trump says he is prepared to prosecute his political enemies if he is elected this fall. Simply making those threats, legal experts say, does real damage to the rule of law. https://nyti.ms/3wV36it

      Oh really??   You Dump-humping shitstains at the fucking New York Times!  Tell us more!

      Also, go back to 2015 and go fuck yourselves!

      Reply
    24. 24.

      Leto

      June 6, 2024 at 9:38 pm

      I hate Illinois Nazis. (sound icon top right of gif)

      Reply
    25. 25.

      Baud

      June 6, 2024 at 9:39 pm

      @Alison Rose:

      Hi. Missed you.

      ETA: Can’t help. Sorry.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      Baud

      June 6, 2024 at 9:41 pm

      @Sure Lurkalot:

      If McNaughton was a psychologist…

      Reply
    27. 27.

      Geminid

      June 6, 2024 at 9:41 pm

      @Alison Rose: I can’t help you on this, but I’m glad you checked in. People worry about you.

      Reply
    28. 28.

      Scout211

      June 6, 2024 at 9:44 pm

      @Alison Rose: Nice to see your nym.

      I’m in California but I don’t fit into any of the other categories.  Sorry.

      Reply
    29. 29.

      Steve in the ATL

      June 6, 2024 at 9:46 pm

      @Sure Lurkalot: five statements, five lies.  Dr. Phil is batting a thousand!  Or zero.  However batting averages work.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      Steve in the ATL

      June 6, 2024 at 9:48 pm

      @Alison Rose: I noticed that you waited until Omnes left to appear.  Smart play!

      Reply
    31. 31.

      Quadrillipede

      June 6, 2024 at 9:48 pm

      @Baud: /r/Canada on Reddit is a cesspool of Canadian MAGA

      Canadian Make America Great Again and now my brain hurts…

      Reply
    32. 32.

      David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      June 6, 2024 at 9:49 pm

       

      @Omnes Omnibus: No spoilers

      Reply
    33. 33.

      karen marie

      June 6, 2024 at 9:49 pm

      @Baud:  I read Brave New World many decades ago, but recently listened to it as an audio book.  I was shocked at how nonsensical it is.  The one that still scares the shit out of me is 1984.

      Reply
    34. 34.

      Shalimar

      June 6, 2024 at 9:50 pm

      Reminder that Stormy Daniels was a one-night stand.  Karen McDougal was the mistress for a long period of time, and Trump didn’t have to pay her because he got the National Enquirer to do it and then refused to pay them back.

      Reply
    35. 35.

      SpaceUnit

      June 6, 2024 at 9:50 pm

      So I was out for a walk about an hour ago and noticed that one of my neighbors has begun flying an upside down American flag on their porch.

      This seems to cry out for some good old fashioned after-midnight fuckery.

      Reply
    36. 36.

      schrodingers_cat

      June 6, 2024 at 9:52 pm

      @Baud: I hope normies here wake up to how awful our media is. Like many in India have woken up to the truth about Godi media. They should be openly mocked.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      karen marie

      June 6, 2024 at 9:52 pm

      @SpaceUnit:  Trumpers are unhinged.  I’d be careful.

      Reply
    38. 38.

      Quadrillipede

      June 6, 2024 at 9:54 pm

      Wow, it’s been quite a while since I’ve considered which is the more dystopian of 1984 and Brave New World. I kind of feel like perhaps the society depicted in Brave New World is more insidiously coercive than Airstrip One ever was… 🤔

      Reply
    39. 39.

      SpaceUnit

      June 6, 2024 at 9:55 pm

      @karen marie:

      Nothing too extreme.

      There was a camper parked in the driveway and I think a Biden 2024 bumper sticker on the back would dress it up just fine.

       

      ETA:  I mean, if he wants to draw attention to himself . . .

      Reply
    40. 40.

      John Revolta

      June 6, 2024 at 9:56 pm

      @Sure Lurkalot:

      Mr. Burns Trump, your campaign seems to have the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular ?

      Reply
    41. 41.

      Suzanne

      June 6, 2024 at 9:59 pm

      @Scout211: I remember that day SuzMom and I attended a Trump rally and heckled and screamed shit. It was also fucken hot that day.

      I no longer have to deal with that shit, and that is fantastic.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      June 6, 2024 at 10:03 pm

      When Larry King was still on CNN he once had Dr. Phil on who was selling a snake oil book on the secret to weight loss which he identified as willpower.

      It was the height of hucksterism, a portly person gaslighting the gullible with hollow cliches.

      Reply
    43. 43.

      Jay

      June 6, 2024 at 10:07 pm

      @Baud:

      @Quadrillipede:

      reddit is often a cesspool where like meets like and drives out the others.

      Sadly the border doesn’t exist on the internet, so the stupid knows no borders.

      At the “Truckers” blockaide at the Coutes Border Crossing, the moron labe influenced “common clay of the new West” planned to kill RCMP officers and start a race war.

      At the refinery, because it was a $2 billion dollar upgrade, ( that wound up costing $3.5 billion), they brought in a bunch, (450+) of “specialty” workers from Alberta and Sask, so, lot’s of stupid, like “pureblood” bumper stickers, etc.

      I printed up a bunch of bumper stickers at home, like “tell me you are a Moron, with out telling me you are a Moron” or for truck balls, “I had my trucks gender changed, my pronoun is Idiot” and engaged in a little light vandalism.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      Jackie

      June 6, 2024 at 10:13 pm

      @SpaceUnit:

      This seems to cry out for some good old fashioned after-midnight fuckery.

      Assume that flag will be under camera surveillance.

      Call 911 and tell them your neighbor is signaling for help.😏

      Reply
    45. 45.

      Old Dan and Little Ann

      June 6, 2024 at 10:13 pm

      @SpaceUnit: My wife saw a double AA baseball game in Salt Lake City the other night.  The Sugar Land Space Cowboys vs. The Salt Lake City Bees.  I had to look up Sugar Land,  It’s near Houston.

      Reply
    46. 46.

      Ken

      June 6, 2024 at 10:17 pm

      Why did no one tell me Alexandra Petri has a bluesky account where she publishes gift links to many of her columns?

      Reply
    47. 47.

      SpaceUnit

      June 6, 2024 at 10:18 pm

      @Jackie:

      This is Colorado.  Everyone has a ski mask.  And at 1:30 am that  camera won’t be picking much up.

      Reply
    48. 48.

      Elizabelle

      June 6, 2024 at 10:20 pm

      Speaking of amusing ourselves:

      FTF NYTimes:  saw this headline, and knew it was Peter F. (for effing) Baker.  (Narrator:  Reader, it was.)
      Forty Years Later, Biden Seeks to Echo Reagan’s Legacy of American Leadership
      At Pointe du Hoc in Normandy, President Biden plans to follow one of the former president’s most iconic speeches with his own testimonial to democracy and the need to resist isolationism.

      And, while they often don’t open the Imperial Peter Baker’s articles to reader comments, they did for this one.

      And:  the top liked reader comment.  Refers to the pitchbot.

      The President’s speech was great, and should be judged for its inspiring words and, above all, its success in reaching out to other nations to join in defending Democracy. But Baker, instead, begins with the assumption that Biden will fade in the shadow of Reagan, and Americans will therefore ignore it. There’s a classic “pitchbot” that declares “here’s why that’s bad for Joe Biden.” Once again, Peter Baker has chosen that route, instead of fairly judging this President’s call to our duty to one another and to democracy.

      Reply
    49. 49.

      Warren Senders

      June 6, 2024 at 10:20 pm

      @Peke Daddy: Hillary Clinton gave a long interview to New York Magazine IIRC in the runup to 2016, and she talked a lot about Neil Postman’s work, and that book in particular.

      (sigh)

      Reply
    50. 50.

      Peke Daddy

      June 6, 2024 at 10:20 pm

      @karen marie: Brave New World is more like “Big Brother is you, watching.”

      Reply
    51. 51.

      Ken

      June 6, 2024 at 10:21 pm

      @Quadrillipede: it’s been quite a while since I’ve considered which is the more dystopian of 1984 and Brave New World.

      If you want a third point of comparison, Jasper Fforde’s Red Side Story, the sequel to Shades of Grey, is out.

      Reply
    52. 52.

      pluky

      June 6, 2024 at 10:21 pm

      @Old Dan and Little Ann:

      Tom Delay’s old district

      Reply
    53. 53.

      Harrison Wesley

      June 6, 2024 at 10:23 pm

      @Peke Daddy: “I like to watch,” Chance the Gardener.

      Reply
    54. 54.

      Elizabelle

      June 6, 2024 at 10:24 pm

      Also, for anyone planning to follow Omnes’ plans for the evening (no, it’s watching The Longest Day):

      Amazon has made it available today for a really low price, whether renting or buying it.

      Reply
    55. 55.

      comrade scotts agenda of rage

      June 6, 2024 at 10:25 pm

      @Baud:

      Most of us in Bolt world (I bought a 2023 Bolt EV last Sep) follow this rather closely.

      The Leaf isn’t really a competitor in terms of overall value at this point given Nissan is still using really dated tech.  The low-trim version, which gets around 160m of range is coming in at 29K and if you get one that’s got greater range, the cost goes up.  Plus it has an outdated charging port.

      That being said, I’ve got a buddy here who just leased the low-trim one for…$55/month.  That’s practically free.  Plus, I know a slew of Leaf owners here with really old ones with no range that just love em.

      Oops, where was I, oh yeah, the next-gen Bolt or as we call it the Boltium.  It should be an awesome car with better charge rates than now, similar range (260m) and if GM can get it at around $30K, it’ll do wonders to help “de-gentrify” the EV car market.

      The Bolt is actually a really well-designed and well built car.  The joke, not really a joke, was that it took GM 5 years to get it right, ie., make a fantastic car, only to cancel it.  Nonetheless, the 2023 Bolt EV is probably the best urban car ever made, this coming from somebody whose last GM product was a ’72 4-door Nova with a 307 V8 and lifters that tapped like mad.

      At our neighborhood picnic last weekend, one little side event was an “EV Show” where we got some people in the neighborhood to bring their EVs for the “EV Curious” to sit in, look at and have us answer questions.  Two Teslas (Y and X), my Bolt, a Kia EV6 (really purty car) and a Volvo XC-30, that last one can go 0-60 in 4.3 seconds which is insane.

      Reply
    56. 56.

      SpaceUnit

      June 6, 2024 at 10:25 pm

      @Old Dan and Little Ann:

      Both are great names!

      Reply
    57. 57.

      David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      June 6, 2024 at 10:27 pm

      @Elizabelle: Its free on youtube

      Reply
    58. 58.

      George

      June 6, 2024 at 10:27 pm

      @Old Dan and Little Ann:

       That’s Triple A baseball, pilgrim. The Bees are the AAA affiliate of the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. The Rocket City Trash Pandas are the Angels’ AA affiliate.

      Reply
    59. 59.

      Elizabelle

      June 6, 2024 at 10:28 pm

      Aha.  A few comments down, on the FTF NY Times Reagan glorification article by Peter Imperial Baker:

      … Yet, I must mention my disgust that this newspaper shows so little respect for our current hard-working president that it didn’t even include his picture with this article. Ronald Reagan was a fairly good actor. Joseph Biden is a very good man. Character matters.

      Reply
    60. 60.

      Ishiyama

      June 6, 2024 at 10:34 pm

      In August of 1864, the consensus in in Washington, D.C. was that Lincoln and the Republicans were doomed in the Fall elections. Lincoln famously wrote a memorandum, sealed it, and had every member of his cabinet sign it.

      This is the beginning of June; the election is an eternity away, and anything can happen.

      Reply
    61. 61.

      Lyrebird

      June 6, 2024 at 10:34 pm

      @Elizabelle: That is awesome, thanks for posting your comment.  Love the tip of the hat to the Pitchbot, and also gosh it’s good to see a GOOD comment.

       

      This may not relate to the thread, but I did just get an email from the Lucas Kunce campaign saying that VoteVets has endorsed him, with a quote:

      “Let’s be clear, with its strong tradition of split-ticket voting, a record-breaking Democratic challenger with a record of serving his country, and abortion now on the ballot this November, Missouri’s Senate race is no longer a dark horse.”

      I don’t have a link other than a complicated one that goes to the fundraising page, but I wanted to spread the word at least.

      Reply
    62. 62.

      Jeffro

      June 6, 2024 at 10:35 pm

      @Scout211: that’s not funny

       

      ok well you can SAY that, but…but…

      😁

      Reply
    63. 63.

      Sister Golden Bear

      June 6, 2024 at 10:37 pm

      @Scout211: Natural selection in action. I said what I said.

      Reply
    64. 64.

      topclimber

      June 6, 2024 at 10:40 pm

      @SpaceUnit: Fly a Russian flag and maybe you can make a friend!

      Reply
    65. 65.

      RaflW

      June 6, 2024 at 10:41 pm

      @lowtechcyclist: I say this with no pleasure whatsoever: Pretty soon millions more people will be living in places that hot, without moving.

      I bailed on Texas when C+ Augustus was just a middling asshole governor. But even in the early 1990s, Austin was both a fun town and hot as heck for too many months. Back then, yeah it did crack 100ºf occasionally, but really not that often.

      It’s super common now. Not Phoenix hot, numerically, but what people not in Austin don’t realize is, there is humidity. It’s not far enough west in Texas to be past the dry line.

      It’s probably findable, but for now I’ll just say that I’d be curious to see a side-by-side of summer heat index highs in Phoenix and Austin. Or, g-d help us, Houston which is goopy humid and hits 100 fairly often, which it did not in the 1980s when I cursedly lived there (except the horrendous summer of 1980 when we moved from relatively temperate Pittsburgh, PA).

      Reply
    66. 66.

      Another Scott

      June 6, 2024 at 10:46 pm

      @Alison Rose: It’s good to see you.

      Hang in there, and good luck!

      Best wishes,
      Scott.

      Reply
    67. 67.

      SpaceUnit

      June 6, 2024 at 10:47 pm

      @topclimber:

      I’m done making friends.  Now I just want to piss people off.

      Reply
    68. 68.

      RaflW

      June 6, 2024 at 10:47 pm

      edit [Emily Litella . gif]

      Reply
    69. 69.

      topclimber

      June 6, 2024 at 10:50 pm

      @SpaceUnit: Maybe fly the Russian flag upside down? Probably too subtle for your typical MAGASoul.

      Reply
    70. 70.

      KrackenJack

      June 6, 2024 at 10:54 pm

      @SpaceUnit: Maybe your own flagpole with the stars and bars and a “This side up” arrow?

      Reply
    71. 71.

      Suzanne

      June 6, 2024 at 10:56 pm

      My VO2max has gone up in the past couple of weeks. Anyone know why? Is it related to the warmer weather? I sweat buckets, I’m disgusting.

      Reply
    72. 72.

      SpaceUnit

      June 6, 2024 at 10:57 pm

      @topclimber:

      MAGATs might have a hard-on for Putin, but I seriously doubt most could identify the Russian flag.

      Reply
    73. 73.

      Old Dan and Little Ann

      June 6, 2024 at 10:57 pm

      @George: I sit corrected.  Go Yankees!

      Reply
    74. 74.

      Sister Golden Bear

      June 6, 2024 at 10:57 pm

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage: On a related note, I was pleasantly surprised to discover there’s now a Tesla Supercharger in Arnold, CA which will make far more practical to explore that part of the Sierras. In past years, I have taken my Tesla 3 over the Sierras from west to east, but it was close the limit of its range.

      Sadly, the Supercharger that was supposed to open in Lee Vining—on the other side of Tioga Pass from Yosemite—probably has fallen victim to Elon temper tantrum firing of the entire Supercharger team. Would’ve made exploring that part of the Eastern Sierras much easier. At least I’m now seeing a lot more non-Tesla fast chargers, which I can use with an adapter, in the mountains.

      Reply
    75. 75.

      SpaceUnit

      June 6, 2024 at 10:58 pm

      @KrackenJack:

      That’s good.  I like it.

       

      ETA:  Seriously, that needs to be a thing.

      Reply
    76. 76.

      wjca

      June 6, 2024 at 11:02 pm

      @lowtechcyclist: I just can’t imagine wanting to live in a place where it gets that hot.

      Definitely says something impressive about Joelle that the Blog Father is contemplating doing so.

      Reply
    77. 77.

      Dan B

      June 6, 2024 at 11:09 pm

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage: Weve leased Leafs for 8 years.  The first had 85 Mike’s range!  Our current ’23 top model with 230 miles range is sweet, dark blue metallic finish, heated seats, great amount of buttons instead of all on-screen controls.  The charging issue means we will be getting something different.  My partner is determined to get a Tesla Y.  I’ve told him I won’t ride in something that can be messed with by Tesla HQ.  He’s determined.  Oy!  I’m not sure what’s better and affordable.  He wants the SUV size to transport “guy stuff” from Home Depot.  We’ve got a small pickup.  Why do we need a “guy stuff” carrier?

      Reply
    78. 78.

      azlib

      June 6, 2024 at 11:12 pm

      @lowtechcyclist: Us Phoenicians only thing it is really hot when it gets above 110F. Was only 108F today. Only in the mid aughts for another week or so.

      Reply
    79. 79.

      Captain C

      June 6, 2024 at 11:26 pm

      @Elizabelle: We’re going to find out that the FTFNYT has actually hired DougJ to write its political headlines, aren’t we?

      Reply
    80. 80.

      Fair Economist

      June 6, 2024 at 11:33 pm

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

      The Bolt is actually a really well-designed and well built car.  The joke, not really a joke, was that it took GM 5 years to get it right, ie., make a fantastic car, only to cancel it.

      GM has epically bad timing. They cancelled the Volt in 2019, when hybrid cars still normally made more sense than all battery, and then the Bolt in 2023 when, as you say, it was a nice car at a fantastic price. And *now*, just as full battery cars are about to blow hybrids off the table with plummeting battery prices, *now* they want to revive hybrid production. Sheesh.

      Reply
    81. 81.

      HumboldtBlue

      June 6, 2024 at 11:42 pm

      Summer concert in Hyde Park, 2017, and a memorable five-and-a-half minutes of semi-random acts of music.

      Reply
    82. 82.

      The Lodger

      June 6, 2024 at 11:46 pm

      @topclimber: White on top… it’s a flag and a political philosophy!

      Reply
    83. 83.

      different-church-lady

      June 6, 2024 at 11:48 pm

      @lowtechcyclist: It’s a dry death.

      Reply
    84. 84.

      ...now I try to be amused

      June 6, 2024 at 11:49 pm

      @Quadrillipede:

      Wow, it’s been quite a while since I’ve considered which is the more dystopian of 1984 and Brave New World. I kind of feel like perhaps the society depicted in Brave New World is more insidiously coercive than Airstrip One ever was…

      I think the main difference between the Ingsoc of Nineteen Eighty-Four and the world state of Brave New World is that the first is poor and the second is rich. BNW’s world state can afford less obviously oppressive means of control.

      Reply
    85. 85.

      frosty

      June 6, 2024 at 11:50 pm

      @Alison Rose: Hi prodigal bitch! Good to see you, I’ve missed you. I hope you get the help you need and you have a wonderful birthday present.

      Reply
    86. 86.

      Soprano2

      June 6, 2024 at 11:52 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: The press wants TCFG back as president. The Biden presidency bores them to tears and doesn’t make them any money or get them lucrative book deals. I agree, I hope “normies” figure it out.

      Reply
    87. 87.

      FastEdD

      June 7, 2024 at 12:02 am

      But on eliminating every other reason for our sad demise
      They logged the only explanation left
      This species has amused itself to death

      Reply
    88. 88.

      Manyakitty

      June 7, 2024 at 12:07 am

      @Ken: so does Philip Bump. And his columns are generally worth reading.

      Reply
    89. 89.

      Manyakitty

      June 7, 2024 at 12:09 am

      @Harrison Wesley: oh yes. Time to rewatch Being There.

      “I like to watch.”

      Reply
    90. 90.

      eversor

      June 7, 2024 at 12:14 am

      I have hope.  Four of my younger relatives, all women of color, will not vote this time around because the Democrats aren’t standing up to Christianity.  Not only have they left that horrid faith they oppose any institution that is not anti Christian to it’s core.

      They now approach their relatives and say since they didn’t sell their house and become homeless they can’t be Christian.  This is the way.  End Christianity.  Make them live up to it.  Who here has a laptop they didn’t sell off to give to the poor is not following Christ.

      Not only that my nieces now will not speak to Christians, date them, and are distrupting Churches and tell them to live in poverty like Christ commanded.

      I am proud.  If you are Christian and you have a laptop to post that you didn’t give away for money to give to the poor, you are a fucking liar.  Alito is actually real.

      More of this.  All of the time.  Fight back in the war.

      Reply
    91. 91.

      HumboldtBlue

      June 7, 2024 at 12:18 am

      I didn’t know Pakistan was a real country when the day began, but I’m glad to hear we whipped their ass in croquet 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

      Reply
    92. 92.

      Anoniminous

      June 7, 2024 at 12:21 am

      @Dan B:

      I had no idea Home Depot sold guy stuff.

      Reply
    93. 93.

      SpaceUnit

      June 7, 2024 at 12:37 am

      @eversor:

      I wish this blog allowed us to post pics and such.  Because if any comment deserved a GIF of SpongeBob grinning and making the jackoff motion it’s yours.

      Reply
    94. 94.

      JaySinWA

      June 7, 2024 at 12:40 am

      @SpaceUnit:

      one of my neighbors has begun flying an upside down American flag on their porch.

      This seems to cry out for some good old fashioned after-midnight fuckery.

      Or a call for a welfare check. That’s a literal cry for help.

      I see

      @Jackie:

      got there first.

      Reply
    95. 95.

      Jay

      June 7, 2024 at 12:40 am

      Somebody is off their meds again.

      Reply
    96. 96.

      SpaceUnit

      June 7, 2024 at 12:45 am

      @JaySinWA:

      Alas, but I have no help to offer.

       

      Only fuckery.

      Reply
    97. 97.

      KrackenJack

      June 7, 2024 at 12:46 am

      @Manyakitty: Philip Bump is also on Mastodon. That’s usually where I first see about his articles. They’re often not shown on the WaPo front page.

      Reply
    98. 98.

      Chet Murthy

      June 7, 2024 at 12:55 am

      @Harrison Wesley: Also Jerry Falwell Jr.

      Reply
    99. 99.

      Chet Murthy

      June 7, 2024 at 12:57 am

      @Alison Rose: Alison, I have nothing to contribute to answer your Q, but ….. WE MISSED YOU!  So happy to see you pop in, even if it isn’t permanent (though if you wanna return, that’d be sweet!)

      Reply
    100. 100.

      Steeplejack

      June 7, 2024 at 12:59 am

      @HumboldtBlue:

      😹  Three Year Letterman—best troll account on Twitter! It’s been years, and still people take him seriously and argue with him. Mostly people who financed their waterbeds, but still . . .

      Reply
    101. 101.

      JaySinWA

      June 7, 2024 at 1:00 am

      @Alison Rose: Maybe a time for a call to 988?

      https://www.helpguide.org/find-help.htm

      Reply
    102. 102.

      SectionH

      June 7, 2024 at 1:12 am

      @Baud: NOMINATED.

      @Omnes Omnibus: you have to put up with Marion Morrison, but I rather like a lot of first bits, and Curt Jergens is brilliant.

      Reply
    103. 103.

      a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)

      June 7, 2024 at 1:15 am

      @Sister Golden Bear:  That only works if they haven’t reproduced yet. We can’t count on it to be retroactive.

      Reply
    104. 104.

      Chet Murthy

      June 7, 2024 at 1:15 am

      @Sister Golden Bear: Seconded.  I’d like to live in a world where I’d be ashamed of that sentiment, but this isn’t that world.  They want to kill us, and I can’t do anything other than rejoice at their suffering

      ETA: or as a famous philosopher once said, “It is what it is”.

      Reply
    105. 105.

      Shalimar

      June 7, 2024 at 1:22 am

      @eversor: Psychiatrists can help you.  Or Scientologists.  Pick your non-Christian aid.

      Reply
    106. 106.

      SectionH

      June 7, 2024 at 1:28 am

      @Alison Rose: Damn, I’m sorry. If there’s anything someone from SD can do, WG has my email.

      Reply
    107. 107.

      Harrison Wesley

      June 7, 2024 at 1:31 am

      I know that the Power of Goober is strong in many parts of Pennsylvania, but I found this somewhat unexpected:

      https://apnews.com/article/pennsylvania-house-capitol-riot-officers-booed-0456d13bdb631cbe01468819bc2a8d2e

      Reply
    108. 108.

      eversor

      June 7, 2024 at 1:54 am

      @Shalimar:

      By the logic here we should be screaming to the skies about the TRUE conservatives.  TRUE republicans.  TRUE rich.

      But you won’t.  Because you only reserve that defense for the one most evil of all things that runs all those things.  Because you are it’s ally.  Enabler.  You are the first enemy then that must be crushed and this fight is coming.  You can’t dodge it.  You can’t opt out of it.  You’re going to chose.  Christianity or Humanity.  I see you are anti humanity.  You’re… a… Nazi!  You fucking Christian.

      Reply
    109. 109.

      Shalimar

      June 7, 2024 at 2:02 am

      @eversor: Isn’t that special.  I’m an atheist, but you’re way too nuts to be an ally in anything.

      Reply
    110. 110.

      Chris T.

      June 7, 2024 at 2:28 am

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

      At our neighborhood picnic last weekend, one little side event was an “EV Show” where we got some people in the neighborhood to bring their EVs for the “EV Curious” to sit in, look at and have us answer questions. Two Teslas (Y and X), my Bolt, a Kia EV6 (really purty car) and a Volvo XC-30, that last one can go 0-60 in 4.3 seconds which is insane.

      Many years ago, a local (to where I lived then, I was not in WA state at that time) Nissan dealer had a “bring your EV or PHEV or electric bike etc to our electric vehicle show”. I brought a Fisker Karma, a beautiful albeit often problematic PHEV. It was supposed to do that sort of 0-60 time, but they’d never been able to get the inverters to supply the full 300 kW needed, topping out at about 200 kW.

      They had a giveaway for various items and I won an electric leaf blower. The sales guy said “now you have two leaf blowers”, referring to the Karma.

      (Alas, the Karma was totaled on a freeway when I was in stopped traffic and people behind me didn’t stop. I was fine though. I now have a full-electric EV that’s a lot more reliable.)

      Reply
    111. 111.

      Chet Murthy

      June 7, 2024 at 2:32 am

      @Chris T.: I googled that Fisker Karma.  Wow, pretty car.

      Reply
    112. 112.

      Chris T.

      June 7, 2024 at 2:33 am

      @Suzanne:

      My VO2max has gone up in the past couple of weeks. Anyone know why? Is it related to the warmer weather?

      You may have a temperature-sensitive lung condition: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5773195/

      Reply
    113. 113.

      Chris T.

      June 7, 2024 at 2:36 am

      @Dan B:

      We’ve got a small pickup. Why do we need a “guy stuff” carrier?

      You don’t, but he should consider a Porsche Taycan, they’re very nice (arguably significantly nicer than my rather nice non-Tesla EV).

      Reply
    114. 114.

      David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      June 7, 2024 at 2:40 am

      “The Longest Day” was on TCM tonight.    Terrible movie.   No football. No car chase. No buddy cops.  No steamy romance.  No lasers.  No Tom Cruise.   Terrible.

      Reply
    115. 115.

      Martin

      June 7, 2024 at 2:44 am

      @Chris T.: Wow, Karma bit of a unicorn out there. They did one of the launch events outside my office. Sat in it. Was pretty nice. That was before first bankruptcy.

      Reply
    116. 116.

      SpaceUnit

      June 7, 2024 at 2:49 am

      @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:

      No Tom Cruise?

       

      My God, how did that movie get made?

      Reply
    117. 117.

      David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      June 7, 2024 at 2:52 am

      @Fair Economist: There are a lot of people in the mid west and eastern seaboard who drive long distances, rather than fly.  Hybrids fit that market segment.

      I personally know people who prefer to drive from Chicago to Dallas, from Charlotte to Miami than fly.

      Reply
    118. 118.

      Martin

      June 7, 2024 at 2:53 am

      @Dan B: I do woodworking as a hobby. Lots of guy stuff. I get some of what I need on my ebike and have the rest delivered for about $45. You’ll never haul enough guy stuff at $45/trip to make up for the extra vehicle.

      Reply
    119. 119.

      David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      June 7, 2024 at 2:58 am

      @SpaceUnit: Not a single blonde bombshell, either!

      No Scarlett Johansson. No Margot Robbie.  No Charlize Theron .  What were they thinking!

      Reply
    120. 120.

      SpaceUnit

      June 7, 2024 at 3:02 am

      @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:

      I actually think Margot Robbie has some potential.

      Reply
    121. 121.

      Jay

      June 7, 2024 at 3:03 am

      @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:

      They had Léonie Marie Julie Bathiat known as Arletty. makes up for all the missing modern blondes.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arletty

      Reply
    122. 122.

      David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      June 7, 2024 at 3:09 am

      @SpaceUnit: and then I thought my tee vee was broken because there was no color, but no, they intentionally filmed it in black and white!

      Reply
    123. 123.

      Ivan X

      June 7, 2024 at 3:13 am

      @Alison Rose: Welcome back!!

      Reply
    124. 124.

      David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      June 7, 2024 at 3:23 am

      @Jay: ​
       Meh. She’s no Francoise Hardy or Eva Renzi

      Reply
    125. 125.

      NotMax

      June 7, 2024 at 3:59 am

      @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      Y’know, I can almost hear Jean Harlow gruffly shouting “Up the hill!”
      :)

      Reply
    126. 126.

      NotMax

      June 7, 2024 at 4:03 am

      @Ma href=”https://balloon-juice.com/2024/06/06/thursday-night-open-thread-amusing-ourselves-to-death/#comment-9215537″>David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      Classic Calvin and Hobbes ‘splains it all.
      :)

      Reply
    127. 127.

      Odie Hugh Manatee

      June 7, 2024 at 4:05 am

      @kindness:

      Democrats could replace the donkey with the more appropriate Tonya Harding since we seem to be the best at kneecapping ourselves.

      She might even appreciate being relevant again!

      Reply
    128. 128.

      NotMax

      June 7, 2024 at 4:06 am

      Fumble fingers fixy fix.

      @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

      Classic Calvin and Hobbes ‘splains it all.
      :)

      Reply
    129. 129.

      karen marie

      June 7, 2024 at 4:08 am

      @SpaceUnit: There you go!

      Be careful of cameras.

      Reply
    130. 130.

      karen marie

      June 7, 2024 at 4:12 am

      @Peke Daddy: But done badly. Have you read it recently? Not Huxley’s best.

      Reply
    131. 131.

      karen marie

      June 7, 2024 at 4:16 am

      @Manyakitty: He doesn’t do gift links on Mastodon.

      Reply
    132. 132.

      Ramalama

      June 7, 2024 at 5:37 am

      @Jay: you are incredibly versatile with the actions you take. So many clever and varied responses. You must be a really fun neighbor neighbour naber.

      Reply
    133. 133.

      Daoud bin Daoud

      June 7, 2024 at 6:57 am

      @Quadrillipede:  I think it will be Brave New World for our  neo-feudal overlords (Musk, Bezos, ad nauseum) and 1984 for the rest of us. (So, a lot like Russia.)

      Reply
    134. 134.

      trnc

      June 7, 2024 at 7:20 am

      I knock on NYT a lot, but the DT/Rule of law story is a good one and I’m having some trouble figuring out why quoting legal experts is a problem in a story that describes at length what DT plans to do and why it’s so bad. It’s a hard news story, not an editorial. Several legal experts were quoted in the story, so it’s entirely proper to say that up front.

      The piece doesn’t hold back, and it has the added bonus of a headline that doesn’t hide the story. Take the win.

      Reply
    135. 135.

      K-Mo

      June 7, 2024 at 7:25 am

      @Baud:

       

      According to experts in cryptology, you should avoid using “password” as your password.

      Reply
    136. 136.

      comrade scotts agenda of rage

      June 7, 2024 at 7:34 am

      @Chris T.: ​

      PHEVs “The Worst of Both Worlds”
      @Dan B: ​
       

      Agreed, that makes no sense, the Tesla Y.

      That being said, I sat in one at our modest neighborhood EV show and it’s a deceptively big car on the inside so you could put a lot of crap in there.

      But a small pickup truck is the absolute best “guy stuff” truck around. Oh wait a minute, back in Central Misery, the “guys” drove pristine big-assed pickup trucks and the only thing the bed ever saw was a cooler and empty beer cans.

      Reply
    137. 137.

      Eyeroller

      June 7, 2024 at 7:44 am

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage: ​I had an EV (a Leaf) and an aging ICE-V (a Subaru). When I finally downsized to one car, I bought a PHEV (Volvo XC-60) and it is perfect for me. I rarely travel out of its battery range so I run on gas mostly when I forget to charge it. (I don’t go out every day.) It’s not a bad idea for me to use gas every now and then since it needs to turn over–I was getting “old fuel” warnings. I will probably never take a road trip again but in the event I might need to, I did not feel comfortable having an EV as my only vehicle. The charging infrastructure just isn’t there. I had a 220 circuit installed in the garage for the Leaf but I just trickle-charge the Volvo on 120 because I am a bit afraid to use the adapter I got on Amazon for its weird 220 socket. I average about 120 mpg.

      Reply
    138. 138.

      trnc

      June 7, 2024 at 7:45 am

      @Alison Rose: ​
       
      It’s good to hear from you, and I wish you felt like just being part of the community here would help but I understand that it can be a little fraught sometimes. Take care of yourself and come back when you can.

      FWIW, the verdict did give me a little hope for people in general.

      Reply
    139. 139.

      trnc

      June 7, 2024 at 7:54 am

      @Scout211: ​
       

      Trump and his company have been unable to win over a single juror, out of 42 total, in recent criminal and civil trials.

      I’d like to see this fact mentioned in every story about Aileen Cannon’s trial schedule.

      Actually, I have a question. When a judge is assigned to a case, I assume the anticipated length of the case is taken into account. Is she being given more cases to make up the time between the DT hearings, or is she running through the Wordle archive?

      Reply
    140. 140.

      K-Mo

      June 7, 2024 at 7:55 am

      @eversor:

      I’m sorry to hear about your younger relatives’ voting plans.  I’ll never understand the people who choose Z in a choice of A vs B.  Then again I don’t understand most of the people who choose B.

      Reply
    141. 141.

      Another Scott

      June 7, 2024 at 8:00 am

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

      PHEVs “The Worst of Both Worlds”

      I kinda thought that too, until I looked into it more carefully.

      It really, really depends. One has to consider the tradeoffs – there is no perfect vehicle.

      I have a 2023 Kia Niro PHEV. It’s nearly perfect for me. I commute with it and charge it in the driveway every other day and in the warm weather I almost never touch the gas (filled it up last week for the first time in about 6 months). ~ 42-44 real world all-electric miles in warm weather.

      But if I need to drive out to the airport, or want to take a trip a couple of states over, I can drive it like a normal car (~ 60+ MPG in hybrid mode).

      The battery pack weighs 220 pounds, so I’m not carrying around a ton of batteries that a full EV would have that I don’t need 90+% of the time and am not using.

      EVs are the future, but for lots of people they just aren’t practical enough yet.

      “But, but, you still have an ICE and all that weight and maintenance and complexity!” Sure, but most of the time it is just sitting there, not wearing out. And it weighs less than all the extra batteries a full EV has. I think I have used the ICE about 200 miles in the last 6 months. Yeah, it’s a pain that the car demands an oil change based on total mileage rather than ICE miles, but it’s an annoyance I can live with.

      When 1200V electrical systems are cheap and common, and charging takes 10 minutes rather than 3 hours, and real-world 300 mile range is cheap and common, then PHEVs will become less compelling for those of us who need longer range (at least on occasions).

      As always, YMMV. ;-)

      Cheers,
      Scott.

      Reply
    142. 142.

      Ironcity

      June 7, 2024 at 8:01 am

      @SpaceUnit: The current one is likely too hard for them but give it the old Soviet hammer and sickle on red field and they’ll nail it at least 75%.   Those classic commies were really good at branding.

      Reply
    143. 143.

      Ironcity

      June 7, 2024 at 8:09 am

      @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: But for the ‘mericans they have John Wayne and you want the real thing bad ass there is Richard Todd.

      Reply
    144. 144.

      K-Mo

      June 7, 2024 at 8:13 am

      @Scout211:

      This is a real thing.  The more loser stench he picks up, the more he’ll lose the unthinking frontrunners.

      Reply
    145. 145.

      TBone

      June 7, 2024 at 8:26 am

      @Jay: you are my spirit animal, bravo!

      Reply
    146. 146.

      Hamlet of Melnibone

      June 7, 2024 at 11:47 am

      @Another Scott:

      I got a 2021 Kia Niro PHEV recently, and it has been great.  Like you said, it has cut my gas usage dramatically day-to-day, but when I need to drive more, I can without a hassle.  I’m not an early adopter of technology.  I’m looking for easy at this stage in my life, and this is easy.  I can avoid using gas most of the time, but if I forget to plug the car in, no biggie.

      We go on an annual trip to Northern Wisconsin in a week. For that week it will be pretty much gas only for us, since we stay at a cabin that has wiring that I probably wouldn’t plug a space heater into, much less a car :)

      There are a lot of people that a PHEV is a good option for.  People shouldn’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

      Reply
    147. 147.

      Another Scott

      June 8, 2024 at 12:45 am

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