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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / Grey Dawn Open Thread: Notes on the D-Day Commemoration

Grey Dawn Open Thread: Notes on the D-Day Commemoration

by Anne Laurie|  June 7, 20244:13 am| 80 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Military, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

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Brexit continues to get funnier https://t.co/c6W1SKeaja

— Michael Stahlke (@MichaelStahlke) June 5, 2024


At first I thought this was a hoax, but…

British troops had to get their passports checked after parachuting into a French D-Day event.https://t.co/r9ed3eVMbR

— POLITICOEurope (@POLITICOEurope) June 6, 2024

Jill and I greeted 30 World War II veterans who fought on the shores of Normandy 80 years ago.

I thanked each of them for their service to our country.

On behalf of the American people, and as Commander-in-Chief, it is an honor to salute you here in Normandy once more. pic.twitter.com/PEQbxjbNMk

— President Biden (@POTUS) June 6, 2024

President Biden’s reaction to the D-Day anniversary flyover ?????? pic.twitter.com/xNZDoGxUiu

— Biden-Harris HQ (@BidenHQ) June 6, 2024


In France, D-Day evokes both the joys of liberation and the pain of Normandy's 20,000 civilian dead https://t.co/j1gbkvjkmR

— The Associated Press (@AP) June 5, 2024

'You Saved The World!' Sec. Lloyd Austin Gives Heartwrenching Speech On D-Day Vets 'Final Victory Over Hitler' https://t.co/Ih5cMaCB7G via @mediaite pic.twitter.com/I9NW98VZIq

— Tommy moderna-vaX-Topher (@tommyxtopher) June 6, 2024

Biden isn't known for his oratory. But his speech on the 80th anniversary of D-Day was powerful and timely?? https://t.co/KUXo005wVP

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 6, 2024

vote for Joe Biden so that when we commemorate the 85th anniversary of D-Day, we're still on the anti-fascist side

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 6, 2024

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  1. 1.

    WereBear

    June 7, 2024 at 4:42 am

    2000 Mules, book and movie, removed from distribution. By convicted felon Dinesh D’Souza.

    Which is two more sentences than it deserved in the first place.

  2. 2.

    Betty Cracker

    June 7, 2024 at 5:02 am

    The late night treatment:

    “Eighty years ago on this day, American, British and Canadian troops stormed the beaches of Normandy to fight the forces of good people on both sides.” — JIMMY KIMMEL

  3. 3.

    WereBear

    June 7, 2024 at 5:03 am

    @Betty Cracker: LOL. The optics!

  4. 4.

    p.a.

    June 7, 2024 at 5:10 am

    @WereBear: By any means necessary and good riddance, of course, but it’s not a sign of strength when libel & defamation lawsuits are doing more to protect American democracy than the free “press” and some sectors of the judiciary.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    June 7, 2024 at 5:21 am

    It would be doubly funny if one of the Brits got fined for trying to import fresh fruit or too many cigarettes.

  6. 6.

    Baud

    June 7, 2024 at 5:22 am

    @WereBear:

    Alex Jones agrees to liquidate his assets to pay Sandy Hook families, in move that would end his ownership of Infowars

  7. 7.

    hueyplong

    June 7, 2024 at 5:36 am

    With apologies to eversor, this world isn’t up to the task of adequately punishing Alex Jones.

  8. 8.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    June 7, 2024 at 5:37 am

    @Baud: Ah, yes. What the youths of today call “the find-out phase”. My sympathy is reserved for his victims.

  9. 9.

    WereBear

    June 7, 2024 at 5:47 am

    @Baud: I have bookmarked a video of him crying. Need a second pot of coffee!

  10. 10.

    hueyplong

    June 7, 2024 at 5:58 am

    @WereBear: Can’t imagine that video being satisfying without the older companion piece in which he brags that they’ll never collect.

  11. 11.

    rikyrah

    June 7, 2024 at 5:59 am

    Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊

  12. 12.

    Baud

    June 7, 2024 at 6:06 am

    @rikyrah:

    Good morning.

  13. 13.

    WereBear

    June 7, 2024 at 6:10 am

    @hueyplong: Someone will put them together. Though it won’t be our corporate media.

  14. 14.

    Shalimar

    June 7, 2024 at 6:14 am

    @Baud: Hopefully Jones can sell Infowars to someone who lets him continue to work for minimum wage and sets up a machine to give him an electric shock every time he lies.

  15. 15.

    Baud

    June 7, 2024 at 6:15 am

    @Shalimar:

    Does America produce that much electricity?

  16. 16.

    WereBear

    June 7, 2024 at 6:16 am

    @p.a.: It’s also an indicator of how much white collar crime wasn’t prosecuted because of Republican influence on funding and staffing.

    And look what happened. We have companies that can’t make movies people want to watch, can’t make food people are supposed to eat, and can’t tell us anything that is actually going on.

    Declare them redundant! We have better substitutes now.

  17. 17.

    Lapassionara

    June 7, 2024 at 6:31 am

    @WereBear: I apologize for being dense, but I don’t understand what you are saying here. Can you tell me what companies you are talking about?

  18. 18.

    lowtechcyclist

    June 7, 2024 at 6:40 am

    Good morning, y’all.

  19. 19.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 6:41 am

    Not to be left behind, Philly lifts up our Antifa Hero in song.

    This is fabulous 😍 BASH THE FASH

    msn.com/en-us/music/news/a-glorious-choral-hymn-about-gritty-premieres-this-weekend/ar-BB1nNzyF

    “The earnest hymn-like quality of the song contrasts ridiculously with phrases like “a ghastly empty-eyed Muppet with a Delco beard” and “Sleep with one eye open tonight, bird.”

    Dunphy’s tune begins:

    “At first, I was disgusted.

    I was like, what the hell is this?

    Why did you do this?

    Why is this a thing?

    It was like an hour after that

    I fell in love with him.”

    My new Anthem!

  20. 20.

    Baud

    June 7, 2024 at 6:42 am

    @lowtechcyclist:

    Good morning.

  21. 21.

    Shalimar

    June 7, 2024 at 6:42 am

    @Baud: Presumably the shocks would slow down the lying.  I am confident America has enough electricity, but Texas is on a separate grid so that might be a problem for the other people living in Texas.

  22. 22.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 6:42 am

    @Betty Cracker: 😆👍

  23. 23.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 6:44 am

    @p.a.: can’t we simply Take the Win?  Everyone contributing from wherever?  I don’t care how!  It is done!

  24. 24.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 6:45 am

    @Baud: “agrees” 🤣

    So. Much. Winning!

  25. 25.

    WereBear

    June 7, 2024 at 6:50 am

    @Lapassionara: Disney is angering their fans and not caring. They are pretending the ultra-processed food is FINE. And the FNYT and Washington Post have clear right wing biases.

    None of these companies are creating good products or giving good service yet they refuse to adapt, adopt, and improve. Because they can just MAKE us buy stuff.

    Today marketing. Tomorrow, corporate tax on us.

  26. 26.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 6:54 am

    Gritty has some more work to do! F.A.F.O. Rethugs, sleep with one eye open you daft, ignorant fucks!

    “Officers who defended the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, were booed by Pennsylvania Republican leaders as they visited the House floor Wednesday in Harrisburg.”

  27. 27.

    Lapassionara

    June 7, 2024 at 6:55 am

    @WereBear: thank you. I don’t buy their stuff in any event, but I get your point.

  28. 28.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    June 7, 2024 at 6:58 am

    @TBone: Today I learned that there’s a “Delco beard.” Now I’m going to have to pull up a picture of Gritty next time I look in the mirror and figure out if I have one.

  29. 29.

    Lapassionara

    June 7, 2024 at 6:59 am

    About the Brits and their passports being checked, Great Britain was never in the Schengen Area, so Brits had to have passports checked when entering France before Brexit. Although, before Brexit, there might have been a way to have a French agent in GB to do the checking before the paratroopers got on the aircraft.

  30. 30.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 7:03 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: oh I wish I could help with that!  I have many Antifa memes featuring Gritty!  Alas, since I cannot post those, text will have to do.  Do you fit the description?

    Helen Gym, council member at large, introduced the resolution, which runs to two pages and would be impossible to justly sum up here. So your humble reporter will just leave below a fairly representative quotation from its opening lines — and encourage you to read the whole thing:

    “WHEREAS, Gritty has been described as a 7-foot tall orange hellion, a fuzzy eldritch horror, a ghastly empty-eyed Muppet with a Delco beard, a cross of Snuffleupagus and Oscar the Grouch, a deranged orange lunatic, an acid trip of a mascot, a shaggy orange Wookiee-esque grotesquerie, a non-binary leftist icon, an orange menace, a raging id, and an antihero. He has been characterized as huggable but also potentially insurrectionary, ridiculous, horrifying, unsettling, and absurd; and …”

    It goes on.

    After a round of scattered applause and laughter rippled the chamber, Jones was told that he could clarify his position. “I have nightmares,” he noted.

  31. 31.

    Suzanne

    June 7, 2024 at 7:04 am

    @WereBear: I occasionally go back and rewatch Richard Spencer getting punched in the face. I love the version set to “Love Will Tear Us Apart”.

  32. 32.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 7:07 am

    😍🥰🎶 live it. breathe it.

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=gM4Xm2MGLNQ

  33. 33.

    Tony Jay

    June 7, 2024 at 7:08 am

    @Lapassionara:

    There follows a statement by the Unified Brexit Is Just Fine Coalition –

      They weren’t having their passports checked! Johnny Foreigner wouldn’t dare! No, no, they were showing them off. Feel the tailored elegance. Smell the quality of the leather. Those Frenchies at the desk must have been Green with envy. Like frogs. Bwah-Haw-Haaaaaw.

    See? All good.

  34. 34.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 7:08 am

    @Suzanne: 🤣👍

    🎶

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=-sOSr7n_8YU

  35. 35.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 7, 2024 at 7:11 am

    @Baud: ​ He’s in Texas. Their grid can’t handle that much.

  36. 36.

    WereBear

    June 7, 2024 at 7:12 am

    @Suzanne: I missed that! Satisfying.

  37. 37.

    Lapassionara

    June 7, 2024 at 7:13 am

    @Tony Jay: But are their passports finally the correct color? Or should I say, colour?

  38. 38.

    Suzanne

    June 7, 2024 at 7:23 am

    @WereBear: Oh, absolutely. Enjoy.

  39. 39.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 7:24 am

    Teamwork makes the dream work!  💙😍

    Less than six months after launching a probe in the U.S. Senate into “the outrageously high prices” that asthma patients and others across the country pay for inhalers, Sen. Bernie Sanders celebrated the official start of a new program by one of the largest makers in the industry on Saturday to cap out of pocket costs at $35.

    …

    The committee’s work led by Sanders triggered agreement from other large makers, namely AstraZeneca and GlaxoSmithKline, to initiate affordability programs as well.

    “We look forward to AstraZeneca moving in the same direction—applying its $35 cap automatically at the pharmacy counter—in the next few weeks, and to GlaxoSmithKline following suit in the coming months,” Sanders said Saturday. “We are waiting on word from Teva, the fourth major inhaler manufacturer, as to how they will proceed.”

    In April, President Joe Biden hosted a gathering at the White House where he credited Sanders and the HELP committee for spearheading the effort that led to the pharmaceutical companies caving under the public scrutiny.

    crooksandliars.com/2024/06/thanks-biden-and-bernie-asthma-inhalers

  40. 40.

    kalakal

    June 7, 2024 at 7:28 am

    @Lapassionara: British passports are a great ‘Brexit Benefit’. Due to a lack of British companies that can ( or want to ) print them they’re made in Poland by a French company.

    Taking back control! as the Tories call it

  41. 41.

    Suzanne

    June 7, 2024 at 7:30 am

    @kalakal: Oh my FSM. That’s funny as hell.

    Man, between Brexit and this new shitty king and his sucky wife….. the UK has really shit the bed.

  42. 42.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 7:34 am

    #FixTheCourt update

    Visualized another way: Clarence Thomas took in ~$4 million in gifts over the last 20 years (and only disclosed $2.4M worth). That’s a total haul 5.6x larger than the other 16 justices combined.

    Details are provided:

    digbysblog.net/2024/06/06/utterly-outrageous/

    KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK DIGGING AND DISHING THE DIRT!  Public scrutiny AND pressure.

  43. 43.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 7, 2024 at 7:34 am

    The chair of Tesla has raised the prospect of Elon Musk stepping back from the electric carmaker if shareholders do not back the chief executive’s $56bn (£44bn) pay package, saying there are “other places” the entrepreneur could spend his time.

    Oh please, stop threatening me with a good time.

  44. 44.

    Baud

    June 7, 2024 at 7:34 am

    Via reddit

    Justice Clarence Thomas has received some 47% of all known gifts given to Supreme Court in the modern era, likely totaling well over $5.87 million: Report

    ETA: Missed it by that much

  45. 45.

    Frankensteinbeck

    June 7, 2024 at 7:34 am

    @Baud:

    I think Alex Jones takes the record for how hard he tried to slow down the legal process.  Even Trump can’t match him.  It has been a display of how you can really push a short term strategy on and on, but the long term impact doesn’t go away, it just gets worse and worse as it gets closer.

    @WereBear:

    Disney is angering their fans and not caring. They are pretending the ultra-processed food is FINE.

    I was really shocked by what absolute garbage the food at Disney Land was.  Worst than your average fast food chain.

  46. 46.

    Geminid

    June 7, 2024 at 7:35 am

    Theis morning’s Politico Playbook had an item about Virginia Republicans pressing Trump to rescind his endorsement of John McGuire. He’s the the state Senator challenging Freedom Caucus Chair Bob Good for the 5th CD nomination. I did not click on the link for details, but it tells me that Good might be in trouble. The primary is June 18.

  47. 47.

    kalakal

    June 7, 2024 at 7:36 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    saying there are “other places” the entrepreneur could spend his time

    Mars, Mars would be good.

  48. 48.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    June 7, 2024 at 7:37 am

    One more on D-Day from the ever pithy Frank Coniff:

    Today we remember the brave men who battled against the Republican agenda of 2024 in 1944.

    twitter.com/FrankConniff/status/1798846920565436696

  49. 49.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 7:37 am

    Mood music 💜

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt87bLX7m_o

  50. 50.

    Suzanne

    June 7, 2024 at 7:37 am

    @TBone: @Baud:

    God. He’s just the fucken worst.

    I might prefer to have eversor or matoko chan on the SC.

  51. 51.

    kalakal

    June 7, 2024 at 7:37 am

    @Suzanne: Not our Finest Hour

  52. 52.

    Baud

    June 7, 2024 at 7:38 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Yeah, I really can’t see what value he adds anymore. They don’t need his “marketing” to be well known.

  53. 53.

    Tony Jay

    June 7, 2024 at 7:40 am

    @Lapassionara:

    Blue. So Blue. Royal Blue. Blue like the blood of all those wonderful chaps from Eton and Gordonstoun and Greyfriars who shed their precious fluids on the brothel walls of Paris, Rome and the nicer parts of Berlin.

    Semper Nobilis!

  54. 54.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    June 7, 2024 at 7:41 am

    @WereBear:

    Tomorrow, corporate tax on us.

    Well we are people, thus must be corporations since the reverse is true.

  55. 55.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 7:44 am

    @Suzanne: 😆

  56. 56.

    WereBear

    June 7, 2024 at 7:46 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: I was really shocked by what absolute garbage the food at Disney Land was.  Worst than your average fast food chain.

    Disney World is likely worse. They have cut back on maintenance, the rides break down more often, things aren’t tidied up.

    It used to be premium prices for a premium experience, and the mad capitalists have decided they can just MAKE US buy things.

    I’m waiting for MAGA to pass laws.

  57. 57.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 7:48 am

    @Tony Jay:

    Semper Nobilis!

    That’s the meaning of my IRL last name, but mine is in French, thanks to stepDad

  58. 58.

    Baud

    June 7, 2024 at 7:49 am

    Via Reddit

    Rishi Sunak issues apology for returning from D-Day ceremony early

    The prime minister gave a speech in Normandy on Thursday morning but did not appear at the main ceremony which 24 other world leaders attended.

  59. 59.

    Suzanne

    June 7, 2024 at 7:49 am

    @WereBear: The only thing at Disney worth eating is the Dole Whip. Have a cup in the Enchanted Tiki Room. It’s the best.

  60. 60.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    June 7, 2024 at 7:50 am

    @Baud:

    Referring to Musk’s fortune, Denholm added: “This is obviously not about the money. We all know Elon is one of the wealthiest people on the planet, and he would remain so even if Tesla were to renege on the commitment we made in 2018.”

    Then what is it about?  Oh yeah, a “record”.  As if “Biggest Corporate Asshole On The Planet” wasn’t enough.  Note I said “corporate asshole”, lord knows that’s a heavily competitive field.

  61. 61.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    June 7, 2024 at 7:52 am

    This was a touching story I read yesterday. American tank gunner who was involved in one of the most famous tank battles of WW2, met his German counterpart and together they both sought out the family of a civilian who died in the crossfire.

  62. 62.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 7:52 am

    Even more digging and dishing!  WOO HOO 😍

    When Cannon was nominated, she made less than $70K a year & her burger joint manager husband not much more. Yet 3 months after her nomination, he suddenly bought a home for nearly $800K before she was even confirmed. How was he able to do that & why has it not been reported?

    MORE DETAILS:

    Amusing how illogical MAGA logic is. Cannon was nominated in June 2020 Her confirmation hearing was in July 2020 Her husband purchased the home in Aug 2020 She was confirmed in Nov 2020 How can someone get a loan on speculative income unless they knew it was in the pocket?

    susiemadrak.com/2024/06/06/who-gave-him-the-money/

  63. 63.

    Baud

    June 7, 2024 at 7:54 am

    @TBone:

    Happy with digging, but a couple making over $140K should be able to get a loan for an $800K house.  I don’t want fake scandals to crowd out real ones.

  64. 64.

    Ken

    June 7, 2024 at 7:56 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: For reference, 56 billion is close to Tesla’s total profit for the last four calendar years (2020-2023). I’ve seen comments comparing this to a bust-out or a pump-and-dump, in the end-phase when the fraudster is pulling out as much as they can before the scheme collapses.

  65. 65.

    Tony Jay

    June 7, 2024 at 7:58 am

    @TBone:

    Don’t Dox yourself! Cardinal Ever Sore will be knocking on your door to recruit you for his Counter-Counter Reformatory Inquisition!  And no one wants that!

  66. 66.

    Baud

    June 7, 2024 at 7:59 am

    @Ken:

    You sure that’s profit and not revenue?

    ETA: Never mind. Over four years is more reasonable.

  67. 67.

    Anyway

    June 7, 2024 at 7:59 am

    @WereBear:

    Dinesh d’Souza and Alex Jones — two of the scummiest in the RThug Grifter Despicable Hall of Infamy. They’ve managed to monetize their brand of thuggery for so long– anything they get now is a rap on the knuckles and a long time coming.

    Hope they’re stopped from making more money beating up on libs …

  68. 68.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    June 7, 2024 at 8:01 am

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    Touching story is an understatement.  So many “wows!” in that piece.

    Long form story journalism at it’s best.

    Thanks so much for sharing.

  69. 69.

    3Sice

    June 7, 2024 at 8:04 am

    @Ken:

    The punters have wandered off to NVDA.

  70. 70.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 8:04 am

    @Tony Jay: 😆😆😆

  71. 71.

    TBone

    June 7, 2024 at 8:09 am

    @Baud: according to mortgage loan calculators (ugh math!), such a loan would have been pretty unlikely without an infusion of cash from somewhere, which is the point of this dig.

    Feet of clay is a good place to start vanquishing a sworn enemy.  I’ll take it!

  72. 72.

    Baud

    June 7, 2024 at 8:42 am

    @TBone: Using interest rates in 2020 and what assumptions about the amount of down payment?

  73. 73.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    June 7, 2024 at 9:10 am

    @TBone: Well, I’m not orange.

    But the beard does resemble mine at the peak of the cycle, the moment where I decide it’s time to ask the barber to cut it back.

    I’m not good at maintaining a trim looking beard. One of many adult skills that somehow passed me by.

  74. 74.

    Another Scott

    June 7, 2024 at 9:26 am

    @Geminid:

    Good is having a not good race.

    Reese Gorman
    @reesejgorman
    19h

    HFC Chair Bob Good, who’s facing a Trump endorsed primary challenger, raised $291,014 between April 1 and May 29, per FEC filings.

    He spent $550,524 and has $167,832 on hand.
    Jun 6, 2024 · 5:51 PM UTC

    […]

    McGuire’s numbers >
    Reese Gorman
    @reesejgorman
    23h

    John McGuire, who’s running against Bob Good, raked in $626,357 between April 1 and May 29, according to FEC records.

    He spent $569,673 and has $520,200 on hand

    (via Fritschner)

    [ womp, womp ]

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  75. 75.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 7, 2024 at 9:27 am

    @TBone: It is unlikely that she made less than $70K in 2020.  She was an AUSA in the Southern District of FL.  She would have been hired as a GS-11 in 2013.  Even without a promotion in grade (unlikely), she would have been making more than that by 2020.

  76. 76.

    Another Scott

    June 7, 2024 at 9:29 am

    @Baud: +1

    Eyes on the prizes.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  77. 77.

    Another Scott

    June 7, 2024 at 9:34 am

    @Ken: No way the shareholders and board should let him loot the company.  But big corporate finance of giant public companies is weird.

    I remember way back when Porsche’s profits were greater than their sales.

    How?

    Playing with the stock market.  Their valuation was nuts.  There was grandios talk about them taking over VW, etc., etc.

    Of course, it all came crashing down a few months/years later and VW took them over instead.

    Yeah, the shareholders and the board should call Melon’s bluff and tell him to hit the road when he loses.

    (I ass-u-me he wants the big payday to dump into his X and XAI and Xetc fiascos to try to keep the spinning plates in the air…)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  78. 78.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    June 7, 2024 at 2:20 pm

    @Baud: ​
      [Rocky and Bullwinkle narrator] Tune in next time to: “The $6 Million Dollar Man Bribe” or “The Worst Judge Money Can Buy”

  79. 79.

    Soonergrunt

    June 7, 2024 at 4:08 pm

    Just to add to what @Omnes Omnibus said:

    As an Attorney, she’d have gotten $69,989 as her base salary as a GS-11/1 and $72,229 as a GS-11/2 in 2013.

    It’s likely she’d have been hired as a GS-11/2 or even a GS-11/3.

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    LanceThruster

    June 8, 2024 at 5:32 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    And here’s a story with a similar regret of unintended consequences by the Army Air Corps not resolved till years later.

    It still chaps my hide that McGovern’s loss to Nixon is what brought about superdelegates. What it should have resulted in was the introspection over if you can’t get a guy as solid of character and no stranger to the horrors of war as George M, then the problem is your party’s messaging. The people backed someone actually worth a damn.

    liverputty.blogspot.com/2008/08/george-mcgovern-as-b-24-pilot.html

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